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    Jean-Michel Basquiat Warrior 1982   • US Fanning Ukraine Crisis, Exacerbating Ukrainians’ Suffering – Xinhua (TASS) • CIA Director Concedes US Po
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 14 2023]

    #133435
    aspnaz
    Participant

    “No one at the senior level” of the company was aware of Bud Light’s polarizing partnership with Dylan Mulvaney, sources close to the situation claim. The company is also allegedly pausing its marketing efforts and scrambling to implement a more “robust” process for evaluating future influencer partnerships.

    And if you believe that then you were born yesterday. Advertising, influencers etc all require budget, and some VP in marketing will be too junior to have that sort of budget. So, someone higher up, someone with the budget, took the decision and put the whole debacle on their cost center. Not a VP, would have to be an MD or department head. But, nice of them to throw some woke idiot under the bus, at least we got one scalp out of the process. I am not redneck enough to drink their piss anyways and I suspect people do drink their piss just to get drunk, not for the amazing flavour, which makes you realise that anyone drinking “lite” beer just to get pissed has an internal cognition problem. Makes you wonder if there is any old crap that people will NOT drink if the marketing is good enough.

    #133436
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Week 13: England Wales Excess Deaths hit 20.9%

    An old Irish saying:

    “The Sun never sets on the British Empire cause the good Lord doesn’t trust the English in the dark”

    Uktardistan has really jumped the shark when it hits 20%+ in excess deaths above historic trend lines and nothing from the public but a big yawn.

    At this point, I guess the English public are just Goats in Trees

    .

    #133437
    Germ
    Participant

    Moron Alert! –

    EXCLUSIVE: ‘I won’t let our eight-year-old son have Covid jab’: BBC presenter’s widower suing AstraZeneca after she died from Covid jab complications reveals why he doesn’t want their boy to be vaccinated

    “The widower of a BBC presenter who died from coronavirus vaccine complications says he was jabbed two times after his wife died…”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11967915/BBC-presenters-widower-suing-AstraZeneca-vaccinated-death-wont-let-son-jabbed.html

    TVASF

    #133438
    aspnaz
    Participant

    No wind day today, no windsurfing, so just completed a home brew – American pale ale – from grain to fermentation in the keg. A lot of work, it was super humid here in Hong Kong, brewing outside is the only option but even then it is hard sweaty work. Hit the OG right on target, thanks to my wife using yoga techniques to squeeze the last drop out of the BIAB bag – difficult to describe. Now waiting for the pressure to build in the keg, should be a good one, five gallons. Nice. Real beer is my thing, not “lite” piss and it doesn’t come with a trannie circus freak.

    #133439
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Satan Worship revives in UK, becomes State religion

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    #133441
    Dr. D
    Participant

    In honor of Musk, “Leftists On Twitter Report Disturbing Rise In People They Hate Having Speech” – BBee.

    “ ‘I’m A Victim!’ Yells Trans Activist While Punching Woman In The Face” –BBee.

    Strangely not a joke or exaggeration. Who knew? Just like men on women’s bathrooms or sports events, I would have said this would almost never happen. First incidence would probably take years. Well… ??? ??? ???

    Is this all just made up for our benefit? Here’s a chart:
    https://i0.wp.com/wilderwealthywise.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/LEFTRACE.jpg?resize=1024%2C484&ssl=1Bail

    Huh. Funny ol’ world. Or as the accompanying quote says, “If people were unhappy about the manipulation of the banks and the mortgage-led meltdown of the Great Recession, the answer was simple from the Powers That Be:  “Look, a squirrel!”

    Speaking of finance and manipulation, rumor has it China just mega-liquified their system. For why? Because they’re about to hit Taiwan before America has a chance to make more trouble? Because BoA is about to blow up and take out some derivatives books? Stay tuned…

    Here’s another chart:
    Pic
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FthWMQ-X0AIcqDJ?format=jpg&name=small

    Huh, looks America also “reliquified” and a couple few people seemed to take them up on it. –Not you of course, you vermin peasant unspeakable THING. This is FREE money, only for IMPORTANT people. $79B/wk, $300B a month. Hey remember when they had to ask Congress for a measly $700B and we shut down the phone lines saying “No, that’s too much, it’ll be bank welfare, and a dead end that will only lead to more and endless bailouts, welfare, and mega-yachts.”? Those were the good old days. So, when can I and everyone here expect their written apology for being right?

    “Head Of Slovak Central Bank Convicted Of Bribery, May Go To Jail”

    Van der Lyin’ who took BILLIONS in bribes from Pfizer that killed (millions?) people, walks free. Slovak’s problem was they’re not corrupt ENOUGH. No one could be as corrupt as Europe. …Except the United States, UK, and Canada.

    “UN Seeks Vast New Powers For Global Emergencies — The global emergency protocols would be “triggered automatically” in case of a global crisis, “regardless of the type or nature of the crisis involved,”

    The answer is always more government. More Fascism, more Socialism. Notice they neither know nor care what the problem is! The answer is always the same. Weather? Same. Homelessness. Same. Somebody not as nice as you’d like? Same. Kids acting up? Same. Same Same Same. Same World Order.

    What if I were a doctor and whatever your problem was, I prescribed “Flonase”? What if I prescribed it without looking? What if I prescribed it ahead of time, before you were even sick with anything? You’d think I was crazy and not listen to me right? Right??? (Please say ‘right’)

    “1.25 Million Have ‘Top Secret’ Access In The US”

    Well if 1 in 300 people have access, then that’s CLEARLY “Top Secret”. And DEFINITELY none of them should be Congressmen who could read the papers and have oversight. You know, to stop fraud and tell the voters what’s going on.

    “Way, way up – beyond the CIA.
    21-year old gamer is a fall guy.
    The circus is in town – actually a show that never ends.”

    Except it’s not a circus, it’s a crime. A circus is what happens when say Feinstein makes money on the side using Chinese stock tips. …Not that deadly, justice is just foot-dragged. This guy who’s probably innocent is being sent up for life. Like Assange perhaps, but more like Assange’s sources. Ellsberg, Deep Throat, whoever. I wonder why him, maybe he is related. Certainly they made the whole “Men suck, are all white, hate women, can’t get laid, and are pathetic (while also violent!)” thing. Classic! Or as BBee would say:

    “Least Masculine Society In Human History Decides Masculinity Is A Growing Threat”

    ““..Beijing is “not content to only have a seat at the table; it wants to run the table,” while Russia is seeking to “upend the table altogether.”

    Well, probably, but that’s just “Nations”, since, “Forever”. Get out of the kitchen.

    “World Faces ‘Most Dangerous Period Of Time In History’ – Trump (RT)

    It’s hard to tell. In some ways less, but in other ways all the blocks have been carefully removed. So it certainly deserves the name and discussion.

    ““Bolton urged Washington to prepare for what happens “after Ukraine wins its war with Russia.”

    How is it this guy is still not locked up? I mean in a mental institution. And he’s relatively sane compared to some NeoCons.

    But I heard this week, Brzeziński – who got to see his whole 40 year plan blow up in his face before he died – said that the problem with Crimea was not enough people died. This was his takeaway. MUCH more blood needs to be split, MANY more people need to die in order to both cost Russia and to insure Russia and Ukraine, two Russian-speaking peoples, could never get back together again. That’s a project stretching back to the Pope and the 15thc right? Gosh, he just LOVED Ukrainians, didn’t he?

    Actually, reminds me of the “One solution” problem above. The answer is always more government. But also always more murder. They go together like peanut butter and jelly. Wherever one is, you’ll find the other.

    “US Military Would Need Conscription to Fight China (ET)

    Don’t make me laugh. We couldn’t defeat China with all 300 million men. For one thing, we could never be delivered to the theatre. That puts it back to nuclear exchange for which we need NO men. And who is this guy? I thought on Twitter, “F—k Catholics” was top trending, they are all hateful people who must be rounded up and killed, but a Catholic Professor gets in the news? Huh. Makes me want to go demonstrate my love and lack of bigotry by shooting a 9 year old.

    the ensuing stalemate will force Kiev to call up every last available man to fight,”

    It did, except those are last year’s papers. We already know they are sending 16 and 60 year olds. Fighting to defend Ze’s wife’s right to spend $10,000 on shoes in Paris.

    Okay, suppose they did. Russia just moved 300-500k men. And ONLY THOSE ALREADY TRAINED. So they could move 1-5 MILLION men, and have the internal political support to do it. Where you goin’ with this, Ze? Pentagon? A: They are mentally ill and locked in the control room.

    “• Seymour Hersh: The CIA Knows Ukrainian Officials Are Skimming US Aid (Antiwar)”

    Duh. The “Corruption” is only Ukraine’s in pass-through. The corruption is going TO the CIA and TO the CIA-supporting Congressmen. I wonder what the cut is. 50-50? 80-20? When you cut off Incerlik and F-Stan’s opium, how will the CIA fund itself, treasonously going around Congress? Syria’s few oil wells aren’t enough to fill that hole. Doing new treason every day is expensive, man!

    Failure to do that is a violation of the United States’ obligations as the host country of the UN”

    Oh, it’s against the LAW? Hahahahahahaaha! It breaks all Anglo treaties for no reason but personal amusement? Hahahahaha! Shocking we haven’t broken all those before, I was unaware we actually followed the law anywhere. I mean, look at NYC. Violent felonies up 50%.

    Brasil’s president Lula: “Who decided that the dollar was the currency, after the disappearance of the gold backing?”

    It’s hidden in the phrase “You and whose army?” Is there a single nation bordering Brazil that wasn’t attacked and toppled over this?

    “Lawyers of the European Commission (EC) have arrived at a conclusion that assets of the Bank of Russia frozen in the EU will have to be returned to Russia”

    Aw, and I was going to say “If you lined up all the EU lawyers end to end, they still wouldn’t reach a conclusion.”

    “While the Western sanctions do not directly target Russian agricultural goods,”

    As above, the answer is always murder. Oh…and more government. Or in this case, government seeping into the nooks and crannies of all human activity, everywhere, in all business, in all nations. Complete merger of them, with just a few weirdo cult members directing from the top.

    New York Times Is Now Telling Bigger Lies Than Iraq WMDs (Swanson)

    What’s really at work here is not some article out of the blue. This NYT reflects a deep, robust, air-tight mindset, an entire worldview now supported by the Left. That it is NOT just a paint-on, NOT just partisan, but deep and heartfelt, worthy of total sacrifice is the disturbing part. Sacrifice of themselves, sure, but also all other life on earth. I wish it were just a lie. It’s not like the Right are peaceniks, you know. They just want to stay home.

    Anheuser-Busch Loses $6BN In Six Days After Bud Light Trans Ad Campaign (ZH)”

    May not have brought this up, but Mulvaney isn’t Trans, he just hates and attacks women. This isn’t some kind of slur, go back to his original videos as a failed broadway actor. He says he and a friend of his made up this “part”, this actor’s skit, which is a thing actors do. One of his first videos for that “Part” said, “I’m a woman now, so I bought shoes I couldn’t afford, wrote a 5 page letter I didn’t send, and cried 3 times. How am I doing, ladies?” Yes, that is, he’s MOCKING women, openly. Making fun of them, belittling them, reducing them to the most offensive stereotypes. Blackface for Women.

    The Internet LOVED it, so he keeps doing the “Part”. What actor wouldn’t? …But that doesn’t make it not Blackface for Women. Just as wearing pants doesn’t make you a man ( I thought we settled this), just as wearing paint doesn’t make you Black (I thought we settled this), wearing lipstick and talking about nails doesn’t make you a woman. It might make you a cross-dresser though. In Dylan’s case, it makes him a deeply offensive person who reduces women everywhere, while also stealing all their paychecks. Nike could have paid that $10,000 to a woman, not a man. Nice going.

    Sorry to have brought it up, since it’s become self-evident that it’s Blackface and although pretty tolerant of people doing Blackface – weird as that is — I’m bored with it.

    –Didn’t post, let me try again.

    #133442
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Spike Protein Replaces Sperm

    Hey, no babies for you!

    Just goats head soup.

    Non-Vaxed dating services will be popping up from here on out in Old Blighty

    You have to submit a health sperm sample to join.

    The Chosen Ones will have the Golden DNA

    The rest will be shooting blanks

    .

    #133443
    Dr. D
    Participant

    And the third pic that put me over the line:

    “You think that “Marx” will take away your retirement. I think that “10 men” will take mine. Whos’ pocket is emptier?”

    Why would I care? I’m against both of them. They’re the same system, one is a merger of corporation and state as Socialism. One is merger of corporation and state as fascism. I don’t know why we even have different words for the same thing. It’s like “Orange” and “Tangerine”: only insiders, using the carefully-taught University definitions of revolutionaries can tell.
    FarOut
    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ef/38/e6/ef38e6192f68a180329cddca2df402d2–gary-larson-the-far-side.

    #133444
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Empire of Lies® can only create Chaos

    That’s it’s only move

    And ‘doubling down’, that’s it’s only response counter move.

    Very, very predictable opponent.

    Imagine playing a game with someone and you always know their next move.

    Chess

    Poker

    That’s what Russia and China are playing with

    Think they will prevail?

    Knowing the next move each go around

    Yeh, me too.

    The Empire of Lies® San Francisco, 2 am

    Quite the geo-politcal power house

    Watch out for the fearsome ‘drug workers’

    Let the “Century of Humiliation®” begin!

    #133445
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • US Military Would Need Conscription to Fight China

    Hahahahahahahaha!

    It will need a lot more than that

    77% of ‘potential recruits’ (meaning an entire GENERATION of youth) can’t meet the bare minimum requirement for military service because of obesity, drug use, and inability to read and do basic arithmetic.

    Craptistic!

    I’m sure the Flower of Duh’merican Youth can handle any danger with their mighty Grasp of Reality®

    Russian Poseidon is Unstoppable

    Hey, it only generates a 500 meter high wave, surfs up!

    #133446
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Anheuser-Busch Loses $6BN In Six Days After Bud Light Trans Ad Campaign

    The Bud Light-footed brew was piss anyway, but now it provides a channel for the seething enraged anger at Woketardom.

    Well played Anheuser-Busch

    They’ve killed a major brand and turned it into Queer Beer®

    And liar liar pants on fire Senior Management says “they didn’t know about the ad campaign”

    Double Triple WTF!

    I think the built up rage against trans-wokedom is great enough that Bud drinkers will totally kill the brand by never buying it again.

    Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

    Law of the Universe

    Woketards have gone a bridge to far with this stunt. Billions up in smoke.

    Will a massive PR campaign regain the soiled Bud Light brand?

    Well, you are dealing with Duh-mericans, so anything is possible.

    .

    #133448
    tboc
    Participant

    the discussion the last week brings the following to mind:

    ” Most people are alive in an earlier time, but you must be alive in our own time.”
    Marshall McLuhan

    “Most of our assumptions have outlived their uselessness.” ~ Marshall McLuhan

    being a little slow I might have misunderstood a member here suggesting that “it’s a mystery” is a disingenuous rebuttal with the implication there is no mystery. There is no satisfactory explanation for the Great Wall of Galaxies or the rate of expansion of the physical universe or that the accepted understanding of gravity does not work at the cosmic scale. One of course can just accept “dark matter” and dark energy and be done. No mystery at all. We don’t understand why the accepted model of the physical universe works locally and the Bang Model is losing the predictive capabilities we once believed. No mystery at all, we have named what we do not understand thus there is no mystery.

    abberant human beings will murder to have their way, they will, with malice and aforethought develop systems of exploitation even to the point of destroying infants and children. No ism is needed. Next thing someone here will propose is that the Peloponnesian War was nothing more than communisim and socialism steeped in Marx’s dialect at work. Dunno could a been fascism

    Man Know Thyself – a statement so old none know the exact origin
    Man Know Thyself, “Not no, hell no!” modern western sentiment

    please proceed, a rendezvous with the fantasy of your nobility awaits or “too smart by half”

    #133449
    zerosum
    Participant

    Its working
    COVID Vaccination,
    the mRNA
    excess death hit 20.9%
    ———–
    Secret – Talk peace While preparing for war/to kill
    ———

    #133450
    Germ
    Participant

    Excess Deaths are easing off in the old but not in the young.

    TVASF

    #133451
    chooch
    Participant

    Dr. D, you wrote:

    “Speaking of finance and manipulation, rumor has it China just mega-liquified their system. For why? Because they’re about to hit Taiwan before America has a chance to make more trouble? Because BoA is about to blow up and take out some derivatives books? Stay tuned…”

    Yes, they look to be in the process of re-liquifying their system. To what end? I am still trying to understand Jerome and Janet’s target for real rates. Looks like Fed Funds and CPI have reach parity. During the past 15 years it looks like holding rates real for any length of time caused something to break. So maybe this is an attempt by China to take control of capital markets buy exporting inflation forcing Powell to go Volcker.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/liftoff-imminent-china-injects-record-credit-kickstart-economy

    [..] Bottom line: the 2008 deja vu meter just went off the charts, because while the US is about to sink into a recession with commercial real estate set to fall all off a cliff, it is once again China that is – willingly or otherwise – set to serve as the world’s growth dynamo at a time when the entire developed world is about to max out at the same time.

    This is precisely what happened in 2008 when China unleashed the biggest credit expansion in modern history, sparking not only historic growth spree but also an exponential debt increase that sent China’s debt to over 300% of GDP.

    What happens next? Keep an eye on China’s credit impulse – this most leading indicator of the global reflationary cycle – which is about to rise above its two year highs after which it will again be on its way to new all time highs.

    #133452
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Surprise! Er, … not.

    “For some time, the forecast for the U.S. economy prepared by the staff had featured subdued real GDP growth for this year and some softening in the labor market. Given their assessment of the potential economic effects of the recent banking-sector developments, the staff’s projection at the time of the March meeting included a mild recession starting later this year, with a recovery over the subsequent two years.”

    – per https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/fomcminutes20230322.htm

    And so the question: When was the last time the FED even mentioned a coming recession in its minutes?

    F.S.

    #133453
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Next thing someone here will propose is that the Peloponnesian War was nothing more than communism and socialism steeped in Marx’s dialect at work. Dunno could a been fascism

    There you go.

    #133454
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Spouse and I finished watching The Power of the Dog last night. I liked watching a film where I was guessing at the ending and the point the story was coming to up until the last few minutes. It was unsettling in some ways, and oddly compelling. I looked up information about the source of the title afterwards, and found one article that framed the film in “woke” context, saying that it was about “toxic masculinity.” There is a huge need these days in public discourse to frame concepts in gendered ways. The behavior of the film’s antagonist reminded me of some of the behaviors of my ex — especially the belittling that he did if others. I am sure that if my mother watched the film, it would remind her of the mother that raised her, who was also verbally abusive. As I watched, I didn’t see the film as being primarily about gender stereotypes, but rather an exploration of abusive relationships. Someone who spends a great deal of time pondering gender stereotypes would likely (as did the author of that article) see it as about gender stereotypes. We view everything in context of our own experience and biases.

    For me, the Western setting was largely irrelevant to the story — it could have been set in many places and eras — as abuse is a problem that is universal to human societies. For someone else, keyed into the traditional Western genre, the setting might be integral to the story.

    ~~~~

    “Marx,” a man long dead who analyzed capitalism and dreamed of a healthier society (just as we do) isn’t taking away anything from anyone. (No more than Christ killed in the Crusades, tortured during The Inquisition, or burned witches during the Salem trials.). There are real, live people living today that are influencing the economic system in such a way that people’s retirement will likely be washed away. It is much more realistic to focus on them, rather on a dead guy.

    “Socialism,” as a word and as a concept preceded Marx.

    To Marx and his contemporaries, “socialism” was an economic system, not a political system. Yes, Marx suggested that a change to a socialist economic system would include government involvement….because governments are always involved in the economic system du jour, just as they are in capitalism, in slavery, in feudalism, etc.

    The “Democrat” who championed socialism the most in the US was the long-time independent, Bernie Sanders. We can all see how much power his embrace of “Democratic socialism” gained him in the Democratic Party. (Oh, wait…by giving up on his bid for the presidential nomination he got some little tidbits…pretty minuscule ones.). Gosh, darn, those capitalism-loving Democrats are so obsessed with socialism that the Party leadership expects us to just *know* that they unabashedly support something that they never publicly embrace.

    What is happening is that the term “socialism” and the name “Marx” is being set up as a “straw man” or “scapegoat,” are loaded up with definitions of things that are hated, and then burned in effigy. After all of this, those who did the burning scratch their heads trying to figure out how it is that the tyranny still exists, how did “socialism” and “Marx” survive, yet again? Yeah….because the problem is tyranny expressed as totalitarianism…tyranny is endemic to humanity (which is tragic, but compassion is also endemic.). “Socialism” has meant so many things to so many people that it has come to compass both human compassion and human tyranny — but it was birthed from human compassion. Therefore, the term is muddy and unclear.

    As a term, “totalitarian” is clear and tends to mean approximately the same thing from person to person.

    #133455
    Noirette
    Participant

    re. prev. thread. On Scott Ritter discussing J. Biden’s statements after the ‘summit’ in Geneva (what was said there is still not known, other topic), vid.

    — Back to the past —> Here Biden slags off Ritter for being against the ‘Iraq War’ – final line..

    “It is above your pay grade” – w. v. nasty smirks. Ritter stays impassive / nothing else is shown by the cam.

    April 2002 https://www.bitchute.com/video/PC9uGFIcaWmk/

    Germ, thx for the updates though they are horribly depressing.

    I always wondered how, why, re. COV19, Bojo’s (let it rip) and Trump’s (natural immunity, Ivermectin, etc.) original attitudes were flipped.

    After the op, whatever it was, Bojo was obfuscatory and bombastic (as usual) – Trump went all out with the WARP SPEED, USA BEST meme (as usual.) I supposed that both had been told the virus was a bio-weapon and extraordinary ‘measures’ were needed. – WAR ! ! etc. (Not a great expl, but maybe playing some role..)

    Eugyppius has a v. interesting post about that, March 2003:

    https://www.eugyppius.com/p/the-origins-of-virus-panic-and-the

    Re. Covid, “From the Belly of the Beast” by M. Setty is ++ on the ground reporting,

    I attended the 23rd World Vaccine Congress in Washington DC. This is what I saw and heard…

    https://madhavasetty.substack.com/p/from-the-belly-of-the-beast

    #133456
    Oroboros
    Participant

    At least he didn’t say, “suck my tongue”

    Bizarre Freak Biden Says Let’s Go Out and ‘lick the world’

    #133457

    Squirrels, squirrels everywhere- and not a chance to think.

    #133458
    jb-hb
    Participant

    What’s so great about civilization?

    #133459
    jb-hb
    Participant

    (it’s a song about how things have gone evil, wrong – a longing to bring the good and the right back – as symbolized by the new tyrant vs the return of the good and rightful king) I’m mashing up a few different translations, but it gives the gist

    My dashing darling is my hero
    My dashing darling is my Caesar
    I have had neither sleep nor good fortune
    Since my dashing darling went far away

    I am perpetually worried every day
    Wailing heavily and shedding tears
    Since my lively boy was released from me
    And there is no word of him, alas

    The pleasure of the cheerful cuckoo at noon is gone
    The affable nobility are not bothered with sport
    The learned and the cultured are worried and sad
    Since the lively lad was taken from me

    He is like Young Aonghus
    Like Lughaidh Mac Chéin of the great blows
    Like Cú Raoi, great son of Dáire of the gold
    Leader of Éire strong in pursuit

    Like Conall Cearnach who breached defences
    Like worthy fair haired Feargas Mac Róigh
    Like Conchubhar venerable son of Nás of the tradition
    The pleasant chieftain of the musical [Fenian] Branch

    Noble, proud young horseman,
    Youth without gloom, of pleasant countenance,
    A swift-moving fist, nimble in a fight,
    Slaying the enemy and smiting the strong.

    Let a strain be played on musical harps,
    And let many quarts be filled on the table,
    With high spirit, without fault, without gloom,
    That my lion may receive long life and health.

    Gallant darling for a while under sorrow,
    And ireland completely under black cloacks,
    I have found neither rest nor fortune
    Since my gallant darling went far away

    #133460
    citizenx
    Participant

    FJB-

    Let’s go lick the World

    Sniff it first pedo Joe? Did you shower with adolescent boys as well Joe?

    If you’re going to San Francisco
    Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
    If you’re going to San Francisco
    You’re gonna meet some gentle people there

    For those who come to San Francisco
    Summertime will be a love-in there
    In the streets of San Francisco
    Gentle people with flowers in their hair

    All across the nation
    Such a strange vibration
    Hmm, people in motion
    There’s a whole generation with a new explanation
    People in motion, people in motion

    For those who come to San Francisco
    Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair
    If you come to San Francisco
    Summertime will be a love-in there

    Fond memories of SF back in the day… Haight Ashbury, Warfield shows, SF peaceful happy vibe… now utterly destroyed by Democrat filth, just like Portland which was a great city, and Seattle. Liberal Democrat POLITICAL bs f’d it all up.

    All liberal shit holes now, ridden with crime, homeless, garbage everywhere, mentally ill militant rainbow tards… The Entire West Coast f’d up by Liberals, beautiful Natural geography squandered by their ‘progressive policies’.

    Can’t imagine I’d ever go back to SF or P-town, trying to gtfo of Seattle. Perhaps if you lived here then vs now you’d understand the justified contempt for these vile political creatures.

    #133461
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Russians have a saying that the Empire of Lies Abrams tank “is a poor copy of a German Leopard tank.”

    Hahahaha

    It is no match whatsoever for a Russian T-90

    Russians make weapons to kill

    The Empire of Lies makes weapons to sell.

    Russia’s Premiere Anti-Radar SEAD/DEAD Missile: KH-31PD

    Cost effectively designed to kill any air defense radar system on the planet

    “Designed for performance, not profit.”

    #133462
    jb-hb
    Participant

    citizenx – interesting. In my teens and 20’s, I gravitated towards the weirdos, the people on the margins, the freaks, the people with weird ideas be the political, economic, spiritual, etc. I had a friend who would introduce me as “a BAD longhair” because I didn’t do drugs, drink to excess, or any of the other stuff.

    I just liked the margins. Like a scifi universe, be it Dune, Foundation, Star Wars. You’ve got your inner worlds – civilization – and then you’ve got your Outer Rim of some kind. Adventure, danger, surprise, chaos, weirdness, anarchy, all of that. The cantina in A New Hope. Really cool.

    But you don’t generally dream of EVERYWHERE becoming the Outer Rim. The whole POINT of the outer rim is that THAT is what it is. I never felt a need to demolish the “core,” the “inner worlds.” Although if the “core” came up with a plan to liquidate the Outer Rim, bulldoze it to plant a million identical strip malls, surely I would be against that too.

    I was determined to be a jeans and tshirt guy my whole life – “trust no enterprise that requires new clothes,” Emerson – but I look around while I am in line at the grocery or wherever – we’ve ALL become slobs! THAT wasn’t what I wanted. I look at the public spaces – the Commons – and see The Outer Rim everywhere – I valued the margins as much as anyone, but I didn’t want THAT either.

    The Flower Power Generation could only do what they did in a safe, high trust society. They could only not degenerate due to their upbringing in such a society – even if they SAID they rejected it.

    I get mad at the Marxists because I trusted them MORE. I saw them as the ones working the problem. Only to have them decide the working class are their enemy. And instead of coming up with something awesome and new after the debacles of the 20th century, instead of making something FOR humans, something that recognizes human nature, it’s gone off the rails. There’s no dictum that ONLY tradition works. It’s just that it’s been beta-tested for thousands of years, worked the kinks out by sheer trial and error, evolution. There’s no particular reason Marxism couldn’t, in their new 21st century iteration, have taken that into account. Maybe next time

    #133465
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I would like to over simplify a description of the war that’s going on because things are getting so high speed complicated. It’s important that the essence of its identity and nature of the conflict is not completely lost in the growing tangle of propaganda, misdirection and outright lies that are not just increasing by the minute but which also stretch back quite a long way into the past

    The most visible expression of this war (at the moment) is of course the shooting war in Ukraine between the United States and Russia. With the “leak” of the Top Secret (and Above Top Secret) military documents recently we can finally skip the long winded cute talk and and just call it like it is: the US-Russian War. Notice that I said “the most visible expression” of the war, because despite the fact that the gunfire is in Ukraine, the whole war is being waged across the whole globe and involves every type of competition for every type of power between and within every nation. In this particular war there can’t be (and are no) neutral parties among the nations. Everyone either wants to keep things the pretty much the same, or else they want big changes and soon. There is no third choice. Even if all we want is some middle ground that the majority can tolerate we’re still going to have to fight to get there.

    So, it has always been inevitable that the current crop of so-called Great Powers come to blows, and NOT just because they are the big dogs in a small room. There is a more basic reason. They are coming to blows because they are manifestations of the two primal forces in human society. One of those forces manifests itself as all of the activities which must be done in order to maintain values and traditions (call it “Culture”). These are interactively worked on and more or less consensually arrived at, over enormous stretches of time, in a particular geographical region. And the other force is the one that opposes such efforts and intents.

    For these reasons the “second force” manifests as the exact opposite of the first one, by seeking to change (NOT maintain) each and every one of the old traditions and values sought and defended arduously and persistently by normal human beings. The vast majority of humankind work all day every day to achieve the things and circumstances that they have come to value according to their own cultural traditions and personal experience. It’s what they want, so its what they work to get.

    Those items which are cherished so deeply and dearly that they are called Cultural values have to begin with one’s own sense of autonomous conscious identity. Consequently, that value would also have to encompass the sovereign control of decision making authority that springs from it. These values might include one’s own natural biological identity as well, or one’s truly earned or personally created possessions and ownerships. It would certainly include the sanctity and value of Life, especially human life. And let us not forget the most senior item of all. There is the question (and answer) of where all of this world came from in the first place. There simply has to be (and is) some sort of source-of-all-sources, the so called God mystery, for lack of a better word. A culture includes that question and its answer. All of those, (and many more) are collectively called Culture. Over the course of time people figure out and decide what their culture is. Even the debate about what the culture should be is contained within the confines of the culture actually is.

    If you are fortunate enough to have one (a culture) and want to keep it then such core values are called YOUR culture. If someone is trying to take any of those indispensable things away (i.e. take your culture away) or make such important things impossible to accomplish, then they are the enemy of both you and your culture. The purpose of that enemy of our very existence, indeed their sole reason for being, is DEFINED by our culture, in that it is dedicated to the item-by-item erasure of it. The enemy has no culture of its own beyond that quintessential contrariness. From the perspective of our values, the enemy does indeed worship evil because evil objectives (i.e. the annhilation and erase of everything that we think of as worthy of attainment) is the only thing that they want.

    Not too hard to imagine how fucked up it can (and does) get to be with that kind of a game plan. Castrated males simulating women and calling for the mutilation and perversion of healthy children is a hint of where this can go. So is genocide.

    So, yeah. The traditional world is slugging it out with the Woke Cabal. Big surprise. The Cabal is getting its ass kicked (again). Also no big surprise, although I’m not ashamed to say that at times I’ve found it to be scary as Hell itself.

    Defend your culture! Defend your values! And defend your relationship to the Creator of the Universe as best you can (acknowledging the Creators’ existence in a position quite senior to your own is a good start.)

    #133466
    aspnaz
    Participant

    phoenixvoice said

    What is happening is that the term “socialism” and the name “Marx” is being set up as a “straw man” or “scapegoat,” are loaded up with definitions of things that are hated, and then burned in effigy.

    The USA government has recently outlawed old style light bulbs, now you have to buy LED bulbs, and is talking about outlawing gas heaters. Is this capitalism? No, capitalism is driven by markets. This is the USSR creeping in the back door. How can you consider a government so involved in peoples’ everyday lives, taking choices away from people, as anything other than socialist? Next they will be telling you where you can live and who you can meet, what vaxxes you need to have to be part of their society and how and when you can spend your hard earned cash, travel restrictions etc. All aspects of society are now being controlled by government and they are reaching out to control more of your life. Maybe you call it something other than “socialism”, but looks like socialism to me. They are creating the all-powerful government to control everything, and you know who will own that government? Yes, the rich folks, same as always. That is why the rich like socialism, they get to decide what you buy, what regulations you have to follow, whether you can eat real eggs or have to eat insects, whether you have to buy healthcare from them with your taxes etc. Extreme socialism is the same as imprisonment.

    #133467
    aspnaz
    Participant

    DBS said

    There simply has to be (and is) some sort of source-of-all-sources, the so called God mystery, for lack of a better word. A culture includes that question and its answer.

    Really. So what is the Chinese culture answer to the God mystery?

    #133468
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    Really. So what is the Chinese culture answer to the God mystery?”

    Yes, really. As I understand it (though I’m certainly no scholar on the topic) the Soviet and Maoist Communists made quite a big deal out of their enforced attempt to erase the “opiate of the people” [religious beliefs of all flavors], and failed to do anything but drive it underground and make it difficult to talk about in public. Didn’t work. People still wonder where the world came from, what their role in it should be, and how does it come to be that consciousness exists in living creatures but not in materialistic machinery. Falun Gong sure opened some eyes on the other side of the Great Wall, and this side, too.

    #133469
    John Day
    Participant

    @DBS: Thanks for the thoughtfulness. “God” does not need to be a personification, which might be like an ant personifyng me as an ant, limited usefulness as a model.
    One of the complains (from Islam) is that Buddhism is “atheistic”, which is sort of true, but not in the USA-American sense. To me, the west has had a lot of problems which could be fed by the image of a stern and angry “God-the-father”, because a lot of people know THAT aspect of a father, arguably more than Love, iin many cases.
    One might have trouble conceptualizing the Love of not-a-person-as-we-know-people, but that might be well balanced by the absence of that negative fervor to kill-the-unbelievers.

    I think that wondering how the world came to be sort of levels the playing field between us and ants.
    We can’t get there with what we’ve got. We have really limited processing capacity and can only experience 4 dimensions. A few of us can do higher math and physics, but only a very few, it’s really abstract, they don’t fully comprehend it, and everybody else mis-understands it.

    Avoiding the global Trotskyist imperative for constant revolution (Hi , Mr. Soros; Mr. Schwab.) is to live in culture, rather than to live tearing it down.
    Beyond culture, we all have things we KNOW to be true, which we should never disavow under duress.

    #133470
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @DBS I think you will find that Chinese culture escaped to Taiwan. It is alive and well in Taiwan. The CCP did try to eradicate all superior intelligence in mainland China, but lots of it escaped. Mainland Chinese believe that Beijing is the pinnacle of Chinese culture, but you will find much more real Chinese culture in Taiwan. Obviously Taiwan cannot seriously compete with Beijing, so the new “official” Chinese culture is a zombie culture, but the real Chinese culture created through history still exists. Contemplating the creation of the universe, that is not their style: they worry about things that they can control or influence, not abstract notions of a creator, of God etc.

    #133471
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @DBS I should add that the USA is trying to replace traditional Chinese culture in Taiwan with the woke, green disease created in the USA. Kids in school are now taught that the USA is where it is at, that the USA is the cool place to be, that their culture is superior. As a result you now see Chinese kids in Taiwan trying to be black, wearing the basketball attire and dreadlocks of the weak minded. It is very sad, but that is progress in the progressive world. No doubt the homeless and beggars on the streets will soon be part of the Taiwan environment.

    #133472
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #133474
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I’ve always wanted to repurpose a service dog

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    #133475
    Oroboros
    Participant

    A Message from Empire of Lies Attorney General his Honorable Buttplug Merrick Garland

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1646601234059501568

    #133476
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Jaguars are nothing to fuck around with

    #133478
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Climate change is caused by lying government fabricating the data? Nah, that must be wrong.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2023/04/is-climate-change-really-caused-by-electronic-thermometers-the-bom-dont-want-australians-to-see-the-data/

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