Debt Rattle December 13 2021

 

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  • #95189
    Mister Roboto
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    Paul Kingsnorth’s second essay in his most recent series posits the idea that the mainstream narrative about Covid is what he calls “The Plague Story”. He calls the story that has set itself up in opposition to The Plague Story (the one that most of us here certainly favor) “Technocracy vs. Democracy”. Though a more pop-culturally relatable name for it might be “The Fall of the Republic and the Rise of the Empire”.

    #95190
    ctbarnum
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    #95191
    deflationista
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    the vaccines are, at best, worthless. and to all the millions of injured, and to be injured, well, thanks for playing, i guess.

    worthless. so many of my beloved in méxico, all vaxxerated, got covid. and do you know why they survived? early home treatment.

    “there’s no cure for the common cold”, we’ve always been told. now suddenly, with the worst cold virus ever invented ¿we have a cure?

    what a scam.

    Making a strong audition for this site:

    https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/

    #95192
    Rover
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    Yes…a most succinct word,tdk, worthless…. over four Billion doses administered to solve nothing….zero,zilch, nada.0
    🤔🥱😠🥱

    #95193
    those darned kids
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    that’s quite morbid, frankly, i’m embarrassed for you. titillating, is it?

    would a vaccine have helped those people? why weren’t they offered any kind of early treatment? why does the u.s.a. have such poor covid outcomes?

    a righteous person never relishes someone’s death, even their most vehement foe’s.

    you may not believe in karma, but karma believes in you.

    #95194
    deflationista
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    over four Billion doses administered to solve nothing….zero,zilch, nada.0

    Out of nearly 29,000 Texans who have died from COVID-related illnesses since mid-January, only 8% of them were fully vaccinated against the virus, according to a report detailing the Texas Department of State Health Services’ findings.

    Yes…a most succinct word,tdk, worthless….

    #95195
    deflationista
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    you may not believe in karma, but karma believes in you.

    Karma loves a good antivaxxer.

    Morbid? You people almost gleefully describe how Dr. Fauci is pushing a program to essentially murder millions of people by pushing a vaccine that will do the job. The stupid memes. The stupid, right wing websites. It could probably be argued that your the morbid one’s, placing bets that most of the world will die from ADE and you will be the only one’s left proudly saying “I told ya so”. What kind of a morbid way of life is that?

    Sorryantivaxxer is a public service to people like you.

    “The purpose of this site is educational, except for a few exceptions, everyone listed on this site was/is an anti-vaxxer activist who helped spread COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Share to stop others from making the same mistake.”

    #95196
    ctbarnum
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    Vaccine deaths from COVID = 473,000

    Natural deaths with COVID = 362,000.

    Deflationescence says vaccines are winning. What, it doesn’t say.

    #95197
    ctbarnum
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    Ah. Silly typos.

    Vaccines 437,000

    Nature 362,000

    Vaccines are worse than worthless here, but Deflationista sees this as “protecting life”.

    #95198
    ctbarnum
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    #95199
    TAE Summary
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    The Fair Summary
    It’s only fair to look at a few mainstream articles related to today’s posts to make sure we aren’t just in an echo chamber.

    * Mainstream article on Omicron: Omicron could cause 75,000 deaths in England by end of April, say scientists
    This is based on modeling though no details of the models were included in the article. The article included graphs that show that the UK full vaccination rate is at 70% and cases are at an all time high.

    * A mainstream article about 2021 Covid Death Toll In U.S. Eclipses That Of 2020 With More Than A Month Yet To Go
    Article points out that more people died from Covid in 2021 so far than in all of 2020. In fairness, Covid didn’t get going in 2020 until around April or May.
    People blamed Trump for all 2020 Covid deaths. It is only fair if these same people blame Biden for all 2021 Covid deaths.
    Around 70% of Americans have received one dose of a vaccine. It is only fair to say the vaccines have failed.

    * It was hard to find a mainstream pro Jacinda Arden article but I found this
    It is very supportive of Jacinda and compares her favorably to Trump. It points out that New Zealand hadn’t had a new case in 10 days, was fairly open and hadn’t suffered economically as much as the US and UK. It was published on October 10, 2020

    * Here’s a Mayo Clinic article on why kids should get vaccinated: Covid vaccine for Kids
    It points out that vaccination might prevent a child from getting short or long term complications from Covid. There are no details on what the chances or severity of these complications are
    They recommend the vaccine based on giving 3200 children 2 Pfizer shots and 1500 a placebo and monitoring them for 2 months. Side effects were mild. 3 children with the vaccine got Covid and 16 with placebo got Covid for a 91% effective rate. No mention of how they determined who got Covid or what the severity was for either group.
    It does mention that 54 of 1 million 12 to 17 years olds got myocarditis after vaccination. This is roughly 1 in 18.5 thousand so it is unlikely that if this were to happen to young children that it would have happened in the study. There was no analysis of the relative risk and severity of myocarditis vs Covid for children.

    #95200
    ctbarnum
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    #95213
    Mister Roboto
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    “Lady Karren”. That is just fucking classic, isn’t it?

    #95216
    Mister Roboto
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    And in terms of karma, my observation is that karma in the form of either Covid illness or vaccine adverse events has a way of going after people who are publicly entirely too arrogant in their positions, whatever those may be.

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