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    #69930
    Germ
    Participant

    Just look at the signatories:

    “Over 200 Scientists & Doctors Call For Increased Vitamin D Use To Combat COVID-19”
    https://vitamindforall.org/letter.html

    Yup – they’re gonna “do a Lancet” on Vit D, and probably Ivermectin at some point in the near future too.

    #69931
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    Schools open. No mask mandate. Make of it what you will.

    • Florida Ranks 11th Lowest In Covid Deaths Per Capita Among Seniors (Blaze)

    I will make of it that it doesn’t matter what the government authorities and TV doctors like Fauci say or do, they are completely powerless to stop viruses form spreading (although they may be able to make things worse with their policies). Also, notable that Sweden’s conventional approach has resulted in two waves of the corona virus…but at this point—middle of winter too—Sweden’s daily death count has reached zero. In other words, the “deadly virus threat” is pretty much over in Sweden.

    Saved this for last because I would like some comments. Did anyone ever state vit. D was a cure for Covid? We sure did not. This epidemiologist appears to take studies on giving people already in hospital large doses of vit. D, to claim it’s useless. This is exactly how HCQ was discredited. But do chime in.

    • Why Vitamin D Probably Still Can’t Cure Covid-19 (Gideon)

    The study of large doses of Vitamin D in hospitals is useless. The whole point of Vitamin D is to remedy the immune system enough to avoid the hospital in the first place. It is important to remember that even without the current corona virus situation, many people in North America & Europe suffer Vitamin D deficiency (often without even knowing that this is their ailment).

    Vitamin D is a natural byproduct of sun exposure, hence its correlation with winter and it’s assorted seasonal diseases. Some anecdotal evidence: I’ve been hanging out on a small tropical island sicnethe beginning of the corona virus out break. The virus has reached us and hundreds of people have been infected but all mild cases (no hospitalization). There has been one official death, however, the man was also dealing with heart trouble and in all likelihood died because of his heart issue while he had the virus, not because of the virus. And local office (very close to me) of 20 people had an outbreak: 9 positive tests bu only 2 people that actually became sick or showed any signs of illness. Moreover, the 2 sick ones also have the palest skin (i.e., least sun exposure).

    I am now firmly of the belief that whatever pandemic threat existed is now completely over except for the TV newsrooms. 1- Virus has spread everywhere so no reason to restrict travel. 2- 99.9% of cases are mild and the average person can utilize supplements like Vitamin D to improve their chances 3- Doctors now have a variety of treatments available for treating the sick at all stages of the illness 4- Deaths are dropping low enough that they are barely any worse than normal population death rates

    Oh, and one more: 5- Gov Cuomo is no longer juicing the death count with bad policy either.

    #69932

    In other words, the “deadly virus threat” is pretty much over in Sweden.

    2nd time this week for that claim. 33 deaths Feb 18. That’s not zero. I’m guessing they have reporting issues.

    As for vitamin D, the determination to leave it out of health policy is becoming as criminal as Cuomo’s behavior.

    Both cost lives.

    #69934

    Talking about Sweden, most must have seen this too. “The strict lockdown in the UK was so effective that it stopped the spread of Covid in Sweden as well…”

    UKSWEDEN

    #69935
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    madamski, from yesterday: “We are not fit to govern our powers to alter reality. We’re clever but deranged monkeys who look in the mirrors we’ve made and see gods. Intelligence is great fun but not a viable long-term species survival trait for us. ‘scuse the quasi-pun, but all intelligence does with us is go to our heads. ouch”

    That’s absolutely brilliant. Love it. Have thought this for ages but never could have stated it so succinctly and with such humor, to boot. Thank you!

    RE: vitamin D curing covid. I saw that heading and went to that story FIRST this morning. lol. Doesn’t matter what they say, Dr John Day has become my proxi medical provider since I don’t participate in the conventional medical system.

    #69936

    But despite that graph’s numbers, there was this on Wednesday(makes one wonder):

    Sweden gets ready to ramp up coronavirus restrictions

    The Swedish government is preparing measures that would enable it to shut down venues to curb the spread of coronavirus, including shopping venues, restaurants, gyms and sport centres. Health Minister Lena Hallengren announced the new proposal at an early-morning press conference on Wednesday. She said the government was “worried” about the risk of a third wave of outbreaks.

    “It could become necessary to close down parts of Swedish society,” she said. The “lockdown decree” or “shutdown decree”, as Hallengren called it, would make it possible for the government to close for example retail venues, gyms, leisure centres, restaurants and venues for private gatherings.

    #69937
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Pointing to what every engineer said, but the government and green will not, have we proven that even when you have green generation, you need 100% conventional capacity on standby at all times? At enormous cost and basically antithetical to the very concept of renewables?

    Still not sinking in. Still denials and diversion to this simple engineering fact. Now there are many solutions, but fact is, they are building none of them, so it hardly matters. They are just lying, then shutting the grid down and killing people, when their own plans require doubling the grid instead.

    Not as a prepping board, this is relevant as Peak Oil, and the energy, financial, and life disruptions that go with it. Suppose you had a generator. Suppose, as is almost certainly illegal, you even had enough gasoline on site to keep it running for 7 days. How much gasoline is that, for 5 million people to run 100 decibel, failing, overheating small engines running?

    Roughly speaking, a house requires 5000w generator, about 7.5 hp, and gas consumption in the range of of 0.5gal/hr. x24h/day = 12gal/day. Three US gas cans. x 7days = 84 gal. Two oil barrels of highly explosive, toxic, degradable, unstorable petrol in Texas’ 110f summer heat.

    BarrelImage
    That’s for one emergency. 84gal x $3.00/gal = $252. Not including the cost of the building to store them or the risk of doing so. And you’re going to love the noise of all your neighbors at 5 houses / acre, I’m quite sure you can hear them clearly 100 acres out. 500 generators in your area.

    We’re not done. So 3 million people, and let’s say not two but 5ppl/generator. 600,000 generators. x 84gal = 50 million gallons of gasoline. In seven days. They need right this minute, not later, with the 5gal cans to buy and carry and store it in.

    But wait, there’s more. How much would you expect to pay for all this? $1,000 in gas? $1,000 more for the generator? No, the generators themselves are light-duty. They are not designed to run 24/7. So they also have a 5,000hr lifespan before starting to break or be replaced. You’ve knocked another $25 off the generator each time you use it. Then it’s junked, melted down, and rebuilt at more BTU cost.

    Can you see now some of the problems with depending on infrastructure, then selling it to Enron and the government to be systemically gamed and mined? While you, a few of you can have a backup plan, that backup plan does not scale at all. At all.

    Next item: suppose to help save lives and get these 50 MILLION gallons of gas into a dying Texas, I rent a box truck and fill it with gas in Arkansas. Now first, that will be highly, highly illegal without books of transport licenses, but nevermind, it’s an emergency. What do you think they’ll do when I take 5 days, book hotels, sleep in the cab, and drive to Houston to sell it to desperate and relieved homeowners?

    Arrest me immediately. For “gouging.” What? My time is worthless, the truck, the risk, the initiative? Yup. You have to sell it at the same cost as the pipeline and gas station. They have great prices! They also have NO PRODUCT. So you can have all you want for 50 cents if you want none at all. That’s price-fixing. That’s your Socialism.

    Now they’re desperate for firewood. What happens if I load up a semi in Branson and drive to Houston? That wood is pretty expensive now. $80/cord usually, and now god-knows with the rental, diesel, 500 miles@ $2/mile, and $30/hr time on a CDL license x24h/day x 3 days = $2,000 more.

    Same thing, you “working man bad,” or worse, –ptooey– “capitalist”. We arrest you.

    So you think I’m going to get a semi of BTUs, take all month, and drive it down to you, risking my own life on the roads, AT MY OWN COST, for the pleasure of losing thousands of dollars? Guess what: you’re not going to get firewood or gas, or truckload of generators, or not what you need. I would help you as a neighbor, but you won’t help me by paying fair price. I have it, you don’t, but when I ask, you want it under cost, you want it for free.

    Okey-dokey then, I’ll stay home, safe and warm, drink coffee, and watch you on TV if that’s what you want. Good luck with your thing. I’ll take the money you expected me to lose and buy my own generator and my own firewood; Texas isn’t the only place that has problems, you know.

    Same thing for labor. I cannot even IMAGINE the mess they will have from broken pipes and water damage. It will keep every plumber in Texas busy for a year. However, if they’re anything like Florida, they have a labor monopoly and it’s ILLEGAL to visit the state, crash in a hotel, not see your kids for 3 months, and work as a plumber on everything that needs fixing. Oh no. You need to be a licensed resident. Rather than let YOU fix it, we’d rather not fix it at all. We make the homeowner fixing his problem ILLEGAL at any price. And thanks to more “helping” you cannot get an “Occupancy” code for a building without running – or perfect – water. So expect you won’t be back in your apartment for 9 months. Oh wait? COVID? More “helping”? Nobody paying rent? Okay, how about ever. It’s not WHY would a landlord fix your flat when you’re not paying, but HOW would they fix it at $100/hr when they haven’t themselves gotten paid in a year?

    Oh helping, helping, more helping. Helping everywhere. Anymore helping and we’ll all be living in our cars. Oh wait: too late, we are.

    Are we beginning to see the problems with infrastructure now? That infrastructure cannot exist in a society based on lying, cheating, and stealing?

    Want the next fun fact?

    Okay, how much was lost because half the businesses in Texas did nothing all week without power, the 2nd largest state, with 29M people, and GDP of $1.6B, 10% of the whole U.S.?

    Taxes on that missing $1.6B? State PLUS Federal PLUS Income PLUS Sales?

    Clearly they can stay irrational longer than they can stay solvent. Coming soon to a town near you.

    No water. No electric. No heat. Because they are liars, cheaters, and thieves that can’t be trusted, and you are derelict of duty and won’t remove them, won’t go around them and cut them off.

    #69938
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    COVID – AN ALTERNATE HISTORY

    Covid was becoming widespread in the West by March 2020. For most it was just a flu but some had serious effects which seemed to require hospitalisation. Doctors in the US found that zinc plus hydroxychloroquine would have most of these people up and about within hours and remove the need for hospitalisation for most.

    In April 2020 an app was introduced in the UK which monitored people’s health on a daily basis. With 3 million users it was able to give a snapshot of how extensive infections were. It managed to identify new symptoms for covid such as loss of sense of smell ot taste.

    By comparing outcomes for people using various medications and supplements it was used to statistically work out what could help against infection and hospitalisation. Vitamin D and Ivermectin were quickly identified, as well as other drugs. It was also hugely useful to test out the effect of various treatments.

    This app was rolled out round the world meaning the pandemic could be monitored on a daily basis and treatments worked out to minimise the impact, mainly to reduce hosptalisation and deaths, plus eliminating ‘long covid’.

    While hugely successful some deaths did occur – a few hundred thousand globally. Lockdowns were not even considered.

    I do not think the above senario is unrealistic. Exactly why it took such a dark turn is the big question.

    #69939
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Today’s art. It was long time ago when I heard it: Japanese artist was puzzled as why the Western painters paint human faces with the dark spots (shadows), since flesh has a pretty uniform color..

    #69940
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Obviously, things like covid cannot be managed for the common good by those authorities entrusted to do so… and that’s as kindly as I can address that issue. So why are we even discussing vaccines etc?

    To use a phrase I’ve found ridiculously necessary, ‘whatever covid is or isn’t’, it will do as it will, period. Every second, the virus makes a few billion copies of itself around the globe. We will NOT stop the spread. To even consider otherwise, after a year of watching public health authorities’ response to it, is like smoking crack up your ass. Pondering vaccine responses at this point is like complaining about Hades’ inadequate air-conditioning.

    Dr. D, bless his blameful soul, does a handy job above of pointing out what a cataclysmic shift in the
    energy/resources/goods paradigm will occur and change day-to-day reality in wild ways. Reverting to the “Old Ways” will be virtually impossible for the majority of the populace, including my retired urban self. Things will fall apart. The totalitarian crackdown so many fear will not happen because the system to implement such will also fail. We will enter a period of emphatic lawlessness.

    Limited Resources

    #69941
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Speaking of Hades, Dr. D provides a postcard of hell: “How much gasoline is that, for 5 million people to run 100 decibel, failing, overheating small engines running?”

    Hot

    #69942
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ upstateNYer

    “Thank you!”

    Well, thank you too!

    #69943
    Germ
    Participant

    Campaign group Friends of the Constitution on Wednesday handed in a petition of 86,000 signatures collected over the past three months — well in excess of the 50,000 required — to formally initiate a nationwide vote to repeal the 2020 Covid-19 Act under Switzerland’s highly devolved democratic system.

    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/swiss-to-vote-in-referendum-on-government-s-covid-restrictions/46286662

    #69944
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Trying this week to convince my ex and the father of my three kids to allow our 13 year old “gifted” daughter to go back to in-person school when the schools reopen for 4th quarter. Last year she was a “straight A” student. She hates online school. She has an F, two Ds, and a C in her core classes…and this despite the fact that the school district, in an effort not to penalize students with problems accessing technology, created a weird grading system for homework/classwork where 50% credit is given for assignments that are not turned in — in a system designed so no one can fail, she is still managing to fail one class.

    My gratitude all around to Raul, John Day, etc., which has helped me to have a clear head regarding Covid-19…and to understand that the risk to a healthy child is minimal.

    @Dr D…I find the energy crises in TX to be mostly a problem of resiliency. It isn’t profitable to build resilient systems, and so it isn’t done until and unless enough lives are devastated for people to pressure that resiliency to be put into place. If pipelines are susceptible to freezing, then natural gas fired plants should have capacity for enough on site storage to supply sufficient electricity for a few days. If turbines are susceptible to freezing as well as lack of wind, then compensatory systems must be put in place for when that happens. Personally, I detest noisy, smelly gasoline generators, but am intrigued by the progress made in non-toxic salt water batteries as a means of storing energy for home use. And, I don’t find it unreasonable for a home to have a fireplace or wood stove as a back up to typical home heating systems…for most folks being without electricity is an inconvenience, but with adequate heat during winter they’ll be alright.

    Resiliency ideally occurs at all levels — not just on the level of the electrical grid. I “lean left” and I do believe that problems should be tackled on community levels, and individuals not left completely to fend for themselves…but individuals and households also share responsibility for their own resiliency, and should have enough forethought to be able to get through a day in the dead of winter without power (or, in Phoenix, through the heat of an afternoon at 115 degrees.). If an individual cannot do this alone, then that person should have a plan of where to go to wait it out and how to get there, or be cooperatively involved with a group that does such planning.

    #69945
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is what sticks out for me …… reporting issues.

    Math does not lie, no correlation,
    Nobody wants to die
    if you buy the right kind of vaccine, you can live.
    Why is it that India still does not have bodies in the street?
    If you got money, you can be saved,

    “This epidemiologist appears to take studies on giving people already in hospital large doses of vit. D, to claim it’s useless. This is exactly how HCQ was discredited. But do chime in.”

    • Why Vitamin D Probably Still Can’t Cure Covid-19 (Gideon)

    • Mutations Made Coronavirus 8 Times More Infectious Than Original (RT)
    “…the need for booster vaccines or even annual vaccination programs to halt the spread of the coronavirus for good.”

    • Pfizer, Moderna Vaccines Make 3x Less Antibodies vs South African Strain (RT)
    “…. Astra Zeneca’s formula after a study showed it didn’t work as well in preventing Covid-19 caused by the mutant strain.”

    • 130 Countries Have Not Received A Single Covid Vaccine Dose (G.)
    “China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, …. make them, (vaccines), accessible and affordable for developing countries, including those in conflict”.

    • Florida Ranks 11th Lowest In Covid Deaths Per Capita Among Seniors (Blaze)
    ” …. the Sunshine State, which is regarded as God’s waiting room for seniors,”
    ———–
    National News does not report damage from Mexico, other states
    NO exaggeration

    • Texas Was “Seconds And Minutes” From Complete Disaster (ZH)
    • The Failure Of The Texas Power Grid Is Worse Than You Think (Fed.)
    • Beleaguered Texas Hospitals With No Water Evacuate Patients (Fox4)
    Look here
    https://poweroutage.us/area/state/texas
    Texas
    Customers Tracked:12,410,161
    State Outages:189,865
    Last Updated: 2/19/2021, 07:37:30 AM
    and look here
    https://www.spc.noaa.gov/
    Storm Prediction Center
    ———
    @ Dr. D
    Great!
    Question:
    How long can gasoline be stored before its no good?
    How much Fuel Stabilizer would be needed?

    Prolong Your Fuel’s Life with a Fuel Stabilizer

    Next, What would be the supply of 55 gal. drums to meet the needs?
    ———

    #69946
    limeincoconut
    Participant

    Re ” Why vitamin D probably still can’t cure Covid-19″

    The arthor cites a study out of Brazil. I tried to understand from the study what the vitamin D levels were for people in the supplementation and placebo groups but did not see it. Perhaps a more trained eye could tease it out.

    Was anybody in either group Vit D defficient? If not, then supplementation is not going to make a difference in a randomized trial.

    #69947
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Saved this for last because I would like some comments.”
    “Even more than a year into all of this, we still don’t really know if vitamin D does anything for Covid-19 at all.”

    It’s a high bar, and a dual standard about what “we don’t really know.”

    This approach seems backwards:
    If “we don’t really know” how effective it is (but we do really know it’s safe), then it’s rejected.
    If we “sort of know” how effective it is (but we don’t really know about its long-term safety), then it’s recommended.

    For something that won’t make a lot of money for Big Pharma (Vitamin D, Ivermectin…), but having a track record of safety going back decades, it’s not recommended because “we don’t really know” exactly how effective it is. The research and track record shows it’s safe, but there are not enough studies to prove how effective it is.

    For something that will make a lot of money for Big Pharma (mRNA vaccines…), despite having no track record of safety (we really don’t know about the long-term effects), but with some bigger studies done to put a number on the effectiveness, then it’s recommended and pushed on the public.

    Below is another example where we don’t really know about the vaccine safety, but they are recommended anyway because “experts believe” that a substantial risk is “unlikely.”


    Miscarriage reports are not proof of Covid-19 vaccine danger to pregnancy

    “Based on how mRNA vaccines work, experts believe they are unlikely to pose a specific risk for people who are pregnant.”

    https://factcheck.afp.com/miscarriage-reports-are-not-proof-covid-19-vaccine-danger-pregnancy

    #69948
    limeincoconut
    Participant

    I wonder if Dr D uses “absolutes” in his writing to provide emphasis. Others might use CAPITAL letters or exclamation marks.

    #69949

    Yeah, Doc Robinson

    If “we don’t really know” how effective it is (but we do really know it’s safe), then it’s rejected. If we “sort of know” how effective it is (but we don’t really know about its long-term safety), then it’s recommended.

    Vit D, ivermectin, HCQ all have decades-long track records on safety, But not on this particular virus, so let’s do 5-year studies to find if it’s safe. While we can do the vaccine research in 5 weeks.

    The problem is, this is killing people as we speak. But yeah, we didn’t study that, so we can’t say it.

    #69950
    KeithMWebb
    Participant

    Re:Vitamin D Meta Studies

    The following Meta Study indicates: That out of 94 studies on Vitamin D; 89 had positive results, 1 had no significant result and 4 had negative results. So, out of the total studies there was a 65% improvement with large doses of Vitamin D. In early stage Covid treatment there was a 90% improvement in outcomes over the control groups.

    https://vdmeta.com/

    Meta Study of Ivermectin had even better results: Out of 40 studies on Ivermectin. The analysis found that 100% of all Ivermectin studies support positive effects as follows: Prophylaxis: 89% improvement; Early treatment, 81% improvement; Late treatment resulted in a 52% improvement in patient outcomes over control groups.

    These results are clear and astounding. The odds of this happening due to chance is 1 in 1 trillion.

    https://ivmmeta.com/

    Gideon is cherry picking his results.

    #69951
    John Day
    Participant

    First Vitamin-D:
    The “health nerd” picks faults and rattles them off without context, to sound knowledgeable and trustworthy, but he is actually misleading, which he reveals early on with his ose of adjectives and comparison. He gets paid for what he writes, not for a real-world career.
    The Spanish study used calcifediol and did randomly assign people to whatever ward had openings. Treating with calcifediol by ward was practical. Not everybody who gets into a hospital in a rush gets every lab done at admission, but people were not excluded for lack of a baseline vitamin-D level.
    that’s life.
    The big thing about calcifediol, which he does not explain, is that it is immediately bioavailable, while vitamn-D2 and D3 need to be activated in the liver, which takes something like a week.
    Calcifediol is appropriate for hospital studies, because this “active” vitamin-D intervention gets to work right away There is nothing in the Spanish study which would unfairly bias it in any way, nor discredit it’s conclusions. It’s a good, prospective, equitably assigned (“random” as possible) medical study.
    I don’t have the Brazilian study in front of me, and I can’t recall what vitamin-D it used, but I do recall that the average baseline vitamin-D level was something in the mid 20s, “low”, but not “deficient” in the parlance of many doctors. The Brazilian study failing to find a significant difference, with subjects who were not very low in vitamin-D to begin with, does not refute the results of a large, well performed study, which did show a big benefit.
    Smoke screen. Blow job. Throwing sand in one’s eyes.
    Not addressed, but previously addressed in Indonesia last spring is the high correlation between severity of vitamin-D deficiency and severity of COVID outcomes in morbidity and mortality.
    Few hospitalized patients had normal vitamin-D levels in that large observational cohort.
    (Not addressed is the ancient and venerable “vitamin D hypothesis”, that viral illness spreads seasonally as vitamin-D levels fall, because the immune system does not function properly with low vitamin-D levels. “We” used to make our own vitamin-D, before we got a mutation that prevented it. We were ok, due to environmental conditions, eating other animals who did, and plenty sunshine on bare skin. Part of the hypothesis is that humans LOST pigment when migrating to Germany and Russia, because it enhanced survival to get every bit of vitamin-D possible.)

    #69952
    John Day
    Participant

    If you supplement regularly, you already have a good blood level of fully active vitamin-D, calcifediol, by the time you inadvertently snort some coronavirus. We know that this lowers your risk of becoming actively infected, and we see that it also improves your course of infection, if you do.

    #69953
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Regarding Sweden and the UK, the most recent estimate for “excess deaths” (Week 6, 2021) is showing significant excess for UK (England), and near-zero excess for Sweden.


    https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality

    https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps#excess-mortality

    #69954
    cloudhidden
    Participant

    Phoenixvoice said “I don’t find it unreasonable for a home to have a fireplace or wood stove as a back up to typical home heating systems…”
    Unfortunately, many areas prohibit wood burning appliances. A nearby town has a blanket prohibition on use of wood stoves or fireplaces. This is a town surrounded by forest and supports a significant logging industry. Another example of gov’t “helping” . There is a effort to ban woodstoves in rural areas here too. In heavily forested western Canada .
    BTW, the wood stove ban in the above town was introduced when a nat gas pipeline was extended to said town. Now everyone there has to rely on electric grid of a gas pipeline (in earthquake country) for heat.

    #69955
    John Day
    Participant

    Last evening;:
    Wes and Zerosum: Thanks for wood-stove comments and experience.
    @Madamski: Lots of good output again, Girl (“Girl-illa”? Samsomnette”?)
    Some philosophers would opine that Hope was the last and worst demon to fly from Pandora’s box, inducing the suffering to stay and keep suffering all of the other curses.
    That’s not Buddhist or Hindu, though. It’s hard to be sure about stuff until you have tested it in your own life. I suspect you have done so. The stoics did not advocate hope, nor did they advocate useless suffering, but they were more inclined to keep an even keel, without a lot of expectations, and deal with things as they came along, the best they could. That is more Buddhist and Taoist and stuff.
    “Collapse now and avoid the rush” is a catchy line, which I like for that.
    The main thing is to anticipate the coming wave and get your board positioned and start to paddle in the right direction to slide into it, instead of getting wiped-out. Yeah?
    @ezlxa1949 :This many days without rising above freezing , almost 7, but it got to 33F yesterday afternoon, is one record. Some have said this would be worse than 1966, but it involved sequential layers of ice and snow, beginning with a heavy ice coat on trees and power lines 8.5 days ago, which brought a lot of both down, and never melted, just got piled onto. The severity of the cold was also unprecedented. Maybe some of the numbers had been seen before on that day, but not the sequence, nor the persistence, which really did freeze pipes because it was so long, relentless and severe. Unprecedented in records, all in all.

    @WES
    : oil you can’t get is effectively no oil, as you point out. Cheap and portable energy is required to run and support the complex economy that can get that Venezuelan and Canadian tar out of the ground and minimal EROI.
    After that economy is gone you need what Jed Clampett found when “he was shootin’ at some food”. That’s all been found. Who gets to use it for what when the big economy falls-and-can’t-get-up?
    @V.Arnold: I like the heating solutions in Thailand, but I caught malaria, trekking near the Burmese border, not terribly far from you. I had medicine and took it, and carried my pack again the next day, trudged.. It’s a long term consideration in a world where technology may or may not be sustained.
    Most of us are old enough that it is an intellectual or spiritual consideration, though I think we all want to die on our own terms.
    I can’t figure out what terms I’m demanding yet…
    I “Hope” Australia outlasts Facebook, on principle.

    #69956
    zerosum
    Participant

    “I “Hope” Australia outlasts Facebook, on principle.”
    Advertisers, with my money and your money, are making facebook rich.
    Advertisers will continue “to feed” the web because “experts advertisers” have convinced companies that they can make more profit by doing advertising on the web.
    Stopping advertising on facebook has got to be a worst/poor way of subsidizing news papers and news reporters.

    #69957
    zerosum
    Participant

    Biden – lalaland
    Never lied – $15.00 in 4 years

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-releases-text-19-trillion-stimulus-which-includes-15-hourly-minimum-wage-hike
    Under the new bill, the minimum wage will increase to $9.50 an hour as soon as the bill is passed, raising to $11.00 an hour one year later, $12.50 two years later, $14.00 three years later, and $15.00 an hour beginning the fourth year following passage of the legislation.

    #69958
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ John Day

    ““Girl-illa”? Samsomnette””

    Let’s go maximum and call me Spamsonella. Name like that should get me locked upo trying to flee across the border.

    #69959
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ John Day

    As for hope: we reproduce via love. Erotic love, nurturing love, enduring love… and that requires hope. However the philosophers feel about hope, they6 wopuld all drink hemlock if they had none.

    We’re all here because of acts of love, directly or indirectly. Love is the tender trap. Hope is how we endure this captivity we call life.

    But I consider myself essentially Daoist. Detachment, like hope, is also a great tool and emotional experience.

    Hope for the best but detach from the outcome because things rarely work as planned.

    #69960
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    John Day said, ‘I “Hope” Australia outlasts Facebook, on principle.’

    So do I (an Antipodean resident). Our federal government has reacted strongly against Farcebook’s exercise of power, and good on them, but this is also a government which has far too many failings and weaknesses in far too many areas. How long their nerve will hold remains to be seen.

    If you want to get an idea of what’s going on here, visit https://www.abc.net.au/

    I don’t use any social media at all, so to an extent I am insulated against all of this.

    #69961
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ limeincoconut

    “I wonder if Dr D uses “absolutes” in his writing to provide emphasis. Others might use CAPITAL letters or exclamation marks.”

    Well, there’s a huge difference between, for example, 97% or, say, the vast majority bolded and italicised for emphasis and 100% stated as just plain fact. I’m all for so-called “weasel words” (in moderation, like everything else except infinity) but weasel numbers, even when used as expressive metaphors, fall under what Twain called “lies, damn lies, and statistics”. My feeling is that the mysterious Dr. D gets so (understandably) overwrought about the insanity of modern culture that he starts shooting wildly. Being that smart and informed can drive a person edgy.

    Me, I just start cussing at anything that moves. But I try to aim true. I prefer to hit something when I’m shooting the moon or just the local streetlight. How can a person curse the darkness with all those annoying lights in the sky?

    Lunar Ballistics

    Lord, I hate rap. Good thing he’s just shooting off his mouth. 😉

    #69962
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    P.S. Dmitry Orlov has a similar problem with absolutes.

    #69963

    I haven’t finished reading yet, but here’s the call- emergency plumbers, head to Texas.
    Haul a bit of food with you.

    #69964
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I’ll note that, in hard times, people tend to ignore prohibitive government regulations when they need major things repaired. Black-market plumbing will be huge in Texas. Government has mostly done all the damage they can do. Now we’re experiencing the consequences of those damaging actions while the government (as Dr. D observed), is finding it can hardly sustain a sovereign erection these days even with a steady IV Viagra drip courtesy the Federal Reserve and a compliant media.

    I sometimes think that the paradigm shift aka collapse will happen like this:

    Faster and 1,000 Times Worse Than Expected

    #69965
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    A recent study is critical of the CDC, and hints at how the CDC neglected to base some key Covid policy decisions on good data (the science was missing.) “CDC scientists and staff have authored a large number of studies on COVID-19; however, the majority are descriptive and provide low-quality evidence for policy and management decisions.

    “The Missing Science: Epidemiological data gaps for COVID-19 policy in the United States”
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.11.21251602v1.full

    “Current guidance for COVID-19 community mitigations relies primarily on indirect evidence. For example, pre-symptomatic transmission, proximity, and an inability to mask are the facts used to justify restrictions on indoor dining in restaurants; [91] Such restrictions may well be protective; however, rigorous studies quantifying transmission risks for restaurant settings have not been undertaken.

    “While several case series and outbreak investigations have highlighted potential hazards in “essential” and frontline work settings such as food production, no identified analytic studies quantified determinants of risks of transmission in workplace settings.

    “CDC’s estimates of the infection-fatality ratios (IFR) based on studies in six European countries may not be generalizable to the US. County to country differences in the prevalence of vulnerability factors, medical care, and ascertainment of infection affect this parameter.”

    “To monitor disease burden, the CDC has routinely reported several measures of infection and disease incidence at the national and state level; however, these measures have limited geographical resolution. Each state has utilized its own distinct sets of state and regional indicators, [96] along with state-specific benchmarks, to guide control activities.”

    “A robust, national approach to monitoring COVID-19 in every region using multiple measures of disease incidence should be feasible.”

    “Disaggregating measures of infection and disease burden by community setting (e.g. residential setting, workplaces, neighborhoods) could further aide in targeting public health responses and focusing resources for testing, contact tracing and outbreak investigations.”

    The US currently lacks regional estimates of the cumulative infection prevalence. Regional differences in prevalence could explain part of the variation in the pace of infectious spread.”


    Conclusions

    Twelve months after the identification of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, the understanding of COVID-19 transmission, infection severity and disease burden has advanced, yet estimates of several essential epidemiological parameters remain absent or uncertain. Missing are comparative measures of transmission risk and disease burden for community exposure settings, including work in “essential occupations.” Estimates for infection fatality and infection hospitalization ratios representative of US settings do not exist. Indicators of disease burden, though available, have insufficient resolution to inform targeted policy and programmatic responses.

    These epidemiological data gaps may be limiting the most efficient and equitable response to the COVID-19 epidemic and underscore the importance of standardizing data collection priorities and protocols early during a rapidly emerging infectious disease epidemic. CDC scientists and staff have authored a large number of studies on COVID-19; however, the majority are descriptive and provide low-quality evidence for policy and management decisions. The content of their investigations raises questions about whether and how an explicit national research agenda guided CDC epidemiological endeavors.

    CDC scientists have the access to data, the expertise, and the resources to provide the data necessary for an optimal epidemic response. Moving forward, the CDC should now plan for how it might develop and implement a timely, strategic, and prioritized national epidemiological data collection and research agenda for the next emerging infectious disease epidemic.

    #69966
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    One more comment re: wood stoves…
    There is a huge difference between a cooking stove and a heating stove.
    The house we bought had a wood burning cook stove replete with an oven; we heated with it for the first year; what a pain in the ass. Couldn’t bank a fire in it for more than an hour or so; believe me, thats no way to heat a house.
    That’s when we bought the Ashley wood burning heater. It was a top & front loading model. We could easily bank it for overnight and woke up to a warm house and a still lit fire; so we just had to add more wood and let it rip…
    Just food for thought….

    #69967
    WES
    Participant

    V. Arnold:

    Your wood stove experience is the same as mine.
    If you have a cheap woodstove you will spend all your time and energy feeding the beast! You will be it’s servant!
    If you buy a good quality woodstove then you will spend far less time and energy feeding it! Then it becomes your servant!
    The choice is clear!

    #69968
    WES
    Participant

    One of the problems with intermittent green power is that you have to build standby gas or coal fired plants (as Dr. D pointed out) for when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.

    Basically that means paying for 2 parallel power systems both of which are only used part time. Since green energy costs double (green + fossil), only wealthy countries can afford such extravaganzas. It isn’t just the power plant but also two sets of transmission lines, switching gear, transformers, or what is called the grid. That stuff is expensive, especially if mostly on stand by.

    Another thing to consider is that when air gets really cold it takes a lot more energy to make cold air move. As Germany and Texas found out in really cold weather, cold air just sits there too heavy to be moved! So no wind energy!

    #69969
    WES
    Participant

    After watching how poorly Canada’s top federal health authorities, the WHO, and the CDC dr fusci have performed, I have concluded we would have been simply better off if they didn’t exist.

    These folks seem to only be concerned by the rise in their bank accounts. Only money can explain their behavior. They are all state sanctioned mass murderers.

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