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    René Magritte The endearing truth 1966   • Trump Says Deal With Kim Thwarted By North Korea’s Sanction Demands (R.) • Michael Cohen Predicts Revo
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 28 2019]

    #45627
    V. Arnold
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    What if the entire third world unites against the west?

    Coming sooner than one thinks; it will be glorious…albeit ugly, violent, and brutal!
    But, coming, inevitable, and I know of no way to prepare for it.
    Asia will likely suffer the least; as they are not the west…Europe, North America, and their sycophants bordering the rest will take the brunt of collapse.
    Nuclear conflagration is more likely than not…
    We’ll see; and we will see…

    #45628
    tony smyth
    Participant

    “While growth may moderate between now and election day, few economists expect a recession anytime soon”. Woooooo
    How deluded can you get?

    #45630
    John Day
    Participant

    Can’t get something for nothing. Kim Jong Un saw what happened to Gaddafi.
    President Trump had apparently hoped that the pomp and circumstance of another historic summit would soften Kim Jong Un up. But despite all the talk about North Korea being “ready to denuclearize” and both leaders hyping up the possibility that a deal would be struck, alas, no deal was forthcoming, and Trump is now headed back to Washington empty handed.
    Talks between the two world leaders broke down Thursday afternoon as President Trump abruptly walked away from the table and canceled a planned lunch and signing ceremony (it’s still not clear what the two leaders had hoped to sign, though scheduling the ceremony before a deal had been struck did seem risky). With the talks in disarray, Trump moved up a news conference where he and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo took questions from the press.
    Trump told reporters that the talks collapsed after the North refused to yield from its demand that the US completely remove all of the U.S.-led international sanctions – including the sanctions approved by the UN security council – in exchange for the shuttering of the North’s Yongbyon nuclear facility. Trump and Pompeo refused to make a deal without the North committing to giving up its secretive nuclear facilities outside Yongbyon, as well as its missile and warheads.
    According to Trump, the talks ended amicably enough, with a commitment to keep the talks alive, and Kim also promised that he would not resume nuclear and missile tests – the basis for the detente between the two countries – and Trump said he would take Kim at his word.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-28/sometimes-you-have-walk-hanoi-summit-collapses-trump-rebuffs-demands-sanctions

    ​Moon of Alabama:
    ​The U.S. demanded the destruction of Yongbyon and of other complexes before any change in the sanction regime. North Korea insisted on following the sequencingthat was agreed upon during the first summit. The joint statement by the two leaders signed in June 2018 defined four clearly sequenced steps:
    President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:
    The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
    The United States and DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
    Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula
    The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.
    Eight month later new relations in form of the opening of embassies or a lifting of sanctions were not established. No peace treaty was signed. North Korea destroyed nuclear testing tunnels and a missile test stand. Some POW/MIA remains have been repatriated. But the U.S. side has taken no steps that could be seen as fulfilling its commitments.
    Since the first summit Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and U.S. media have done their best to ignore the sequencing. North Korea on the other side has insisted on it again and again. It made absolutely clear that it would not budge on the issue. In his New Year speech the chairman emphasized:
    If the US responds to our proactive, prior efforts with trustworthy measures and corresponding practical actions, bilateral relations will develop wonderfully at a fast pace through the process of taking more definite and epochal measures.
    We have no intention to be obsessed with and keep up the unsavoury past relationship between the two countries, but are ready to fix it as early as possible and work to forge a new relationship in line with the aspirations of the two peoples and the requirements of the developing times.
    I am ready to meet the US president again anytime, and will make efforts to obtain without fail results which can be welcomed by the international community.
    But if the United States does not keep the promise it made in the eyes of the world, and out of miscalculation of our people’s patience, it attempts to unilaterally enforce something upon us and persists in imposing sanctions and pressure against our Republic, we may be compelled to find a new way for defending the sovereignty of the country and the supreme interests of the state and for achieving peace and stability of the Korean peninsula.
    The “corresponding measures” the U.S. promised will have to come first before North Korea gives up more of its nuclear infrastructure.
    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/02/trump-sticks-to-sanctions-us-north-korea-summit-fails.html#more

    #45632
    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2019/02/looking-for-friend.html
    W​hoa! This is recent history of SOUTH KOREA.
    Nobody knows how many innocent Koreans were accused as “Reds” and killed, imprisoned and tortured by the conservative governments. But several millions could have been the victim. Under the government of Rhee Syngnman, more than 200,000 innocent Koreans were killed in the areas of Jeju, Yosu and Soonchon. The government accused these poor victims for being “communists”, “Reds”, “PPal- gaing-ie” Among the victims were children and old people who had nothing to do with ideology.
    General Chun Doo-hwan had his share of killing the people. In 18th of May, 1980, the citizens of Gwang-ju organized a street demonstration to protest the Chun’s dictatorship. Chun mobilized highly trained air-born battalion and killed at least 1,000 citizens with tanks and helicopters. A great number of citizens were wounded. Moreover, Chun set up, during his presidency (1980-1987), a massive killing field in the Sancheong Education School; about 100,000 young people were massacred for not supporting Chun’s government policies and some other dubious reasons.
    The true reason behind these massacres was to silence the voice of opposition against the corruption and the violation of human rights committed by the conservatives. These people were falsely condemned as “Reds” or “being friendly with North Korea” (Chin-book). In other words, the existence of North-South tension provided a good reason to oppress the people.

    The Conservatives, “Nam-Nam Friction” and Nuclear Crisis in South Korea

    #45634
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    POACHERS

    Not sure I agree with the death penalty for poachers. They are usually poor people trying to earn a living.

    I do agree with the death penalty for those who create the market – those who buy and ship the ivory, etc. This would have a far greater effect on poaching by making it unprofitable. By removing the middle men it would destroy the chain.

    I also favour legal trade in, say, elephant ivory. I think it is South Africa which has a surfeit of elephants. While we like elephants they can be very destructive on the habitat. I think South Africa should be allowed to cull elephants and export the ivory legally, again reducing the profitability of poaching elsewhere. By creating a legal market it makes it far easier to stamp out illegal markets.

    #45635

    anticlimactic,

    Re: poachers: Yes, they’re poor, but they will have to earn a living elsewhere, it’s gone too far. We will have to help them, though.

    And South Africa can’t be allowed to cull elephants because, again, it’s gone too far -Botswana wants this too-. Reality is, only a few percent of these animals still survive, and we can’t afford to play this sort of game with them.

    Creating a legal ivory market would only make things worse too. Simply, no trade, none, no exceptions, because there are a 1000 parties who will say they deserve one. Too far gone.

    Trade in meat for human consumption, sure, but only in industries held to the highest levels of humane treatment.

    Life itself is vanishing. So we need to protect life itself, all of it. No more poison on plants, no more poaching of animals, no more trade in anything outside of strict laws.

    #45636
    zerosum
    Participant

    The dog was innocent. It was a wrong key that ate my comments. Since everyone here is smarter than me, then my words of wisdom were not needed.
    Here is a different version.

    What if the entire third world unites against the west?
    Can Ocasio rises to the occasion? (get it? Ocasio->Occasion).
    In response ….Where are Ocsio helpers?

    In Canada?
    Why is Canada a lap dog to the USA?
    • Venezuela Set For More False Flags (Cunningham)
    the Lima Group summit – 12 Latin American states along with the US and Canada – was meant to capitalize on the false-flag incident over aid, as well as other deadly clashes at the weekend that resulted in dozens of casualties.
    Lima Group, including US allies Colombia, Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay, issued a statement after the summit Monday rejecting any military action. They are still functioning as lackeys by calling for a “peaceful transition to democracy” and are in favor of the dubious US-anointed opposition figure Guaido, recognizing him as the “interim president” of Venezuela, in accordance with Washington’s desires.

    Is this a helper?
    Finian Cunningham (born 1963) has written extensively on international affairs, with articles published in several languages. Originally from Belfast, Northern Ireland, he is a Master’s graduate in Agricultural Chemistry and worked as a scientific editor for the Royal Society of Chemistry, Cambridge, England, before pursuing a career in newspaper journalism. For over 20 years he worked as an editor and writer in major news media organizations, including The Mirror, Irish Times and Independent. Now a freelance journalist based in East Africa, his columns appear on RT, Sputnik, Strategic Culture Foundation and Press TV.

    Regime Change is Urgently Needed…in Washington

    I am surprised that no one else is saying it, writing it, shouting it at each and every corner: It is not Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Iran that are in dire and crucial need of ‘regime change’. It is the United States of America, it is the entire European Union; in fact, the entire West.

    Is this an helper?
    Andre Vltchek is a philosopher, novelist, filmmaker and investigative journalist. He has covered wars and conflicts in dozens of countries. Three of his latest books are Revolutionary Optimism, Western Nihilism, a revolutionary novel “Aurora” and a bestselling work of political non-fiction: “Exposing Lies Of The Empire”. View his other books here. Watch Rwanda Gambit, his groundbreaking documentary about Rwanda and DRCongo and his film/dialogue with Noam Chomsky “On Western Terrorism”. Vltchek presently resides in East Asia and the Middle East, and continues to work around the world. He can be reached through his website and his Twitter.

    Mobilize And Defend Venezuela!

    In the past, the US tried to overthrow Chavez, it attempted to starve Venezuela, to make its medical system collapse, then to assassinate Maduro. It produced a ‘deficit’ of food, even toilet paper. It ordered its lapdogs in Latin America to antagonize the Bolivarian revolution.

    Now, in the latest development, the regime in Washington has simply hand-picked its favorite traitor inside the socialist republic of Venezuela – a treasonous cadre named Juan Guaido, (who served, briefly, as President of the National Assembly of Venezuela), “recognizing him” as the“interim President of the country”.

    http://andrevltchek.weebly.com/

    #45638
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    HYDROELECTRIC IN GUINEA

    I do not see any problem with this scheme. Having set up a reserve for a large population of chimps they should not be penalised for this. The loss of less than 10% of the chimp population is acceptable.

    Large animals usually reproduce every year or two, but the population does not double because most of them die. Death is normal in nature – nature is not Disneyland.

    I favour true renewable energy, which means it has to produce so much energy it does not need a subsidy. Hydroelectric may be the only one to qualify.

    There does seem to be a general campaign against hydroelectric schemes, which I assume is because they can make money from heavily subsidised not-so-renewable energy like wind turbines. While hydroelectric schemes have a one-off effect on the environment wind turbines kill birds and bats forever.

    #45644
    zerosum
    Participant

    We are just a bag of bacteria

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_microbiota
    Humans are colonized by many microorganisms; the traditional estimate is that the average human body is inhabited by ten times as many non-human cells as human cells, but more recent estimates have lowered that ratio to 3:1 or even to approximately the same number.
    …. the human microbiome includes around 100 trillion bacterial cells and that an adult human typically has around 10 trillion human cells

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/28/pests-homes-spider-man-bug-biolgist-5000-species
    He says fewer than 100 species of bacteria, protists and viruses cause nearly all infectious diseases today. We try to keep these in check with vaccinations and antibiotics, and by washing our hands.

    The Best Probiotic Supplements


    The best probiotic supplement has multiple strains of effective bacteria in a dosage potent enough to give you results.

    OR ACCIDENTLY KILL YOU.

    #45646
    zerosum
    Participant

    Is this another helper?
    Go read the article.

    Burning Aid: An Interventionist Deception on Colombia-Venezuela Bridge?


    Having failed miserably at every phase of the coup he had attempted engineer, Rubio ended the day with a Twitter tantrum that peaked with a call for “multilateral actions” against Venezuela’s government.

    Max Blumenthal is an award-winning journalist and the author of several books, including best-selling Republican Gomorrah, Goliath, The Fifty One Day War, and The Management of Savagery. He has produced print articles for an array of publications, many video reports, and several documentaries, including Killing Gaza. Blumenthal founded The Grayzone in 2015 to shine a journalistic light on America’s state of perpetual war and its dangerous domestic repercussions.

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