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    Dorothea Lange On the road to Los Angeles, California 1937   • What Have We Bargained for in Ukraine? (Dougherty) • Ukraine Running Out Of Time –
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 8 2023]

    #125401
    oxymoron
    Participant

    OMG the fact I made myself watch Faucci was disappointing. I feel a little bit of reflux now.
    Puss-nugget.

    Also glad CCP are now working on their own immune-escape variants.

    Sasha Latypova is knocking it out of the park right now. Who the hell is running the US DOD? Vanguard? The Club of Rome? The Fabians? City of London?
    Whoever it is – is one group of crazy bastards.

    #125402
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    January 6th 2021 -the day some of the audience managed to get back stage of the theatre.

    The crimes of committed by the criminal actors on January 6th 2021 are a mere trifle compared to the crimes on September 11 2001, when surveillance tapes also ‘went missing’ and fake reports were compiled to cover up the numerous crimes. There was also a fake enquiry into 9/11, just like the fake enquiry into 01/06.

    A lot more people died on Airstrip Two on 9/11/21 than on 1/06/21, and even more died elsewhere as a result of the plethora of lies -on that occasion orchestrated by the actors wearing red ribbons, as opposed to actors wearing blue ribbons on the more recent occasion.

    #125403
    Germ
    Participant

    I got the vaccine because …

    https://t.me/leaklive/11303

    TVASF

    #125404
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Never mind, jb-hb. Never mind. I see no reason to continue the subject further with you. I thought we were gonna talk about the weather, not the average bloke’s political belief system mood ring swings. Oh, that’s a kind of weather, too, but it happens inside people’s heads, not in the sky or oceans or rivers or ground or glaciers…

    ***

    TAE Sum: your post quoting Isaiah is maybe my fave post of yours to date.

    ***

    “I agree trees are more important than we think they are.”

    We’re soon going to find out, I fear, and we’ll learn this by that ancient method: loss. In our apartment complex prison cell, we keep a tiny faux forest of craftwork bonsai during the darker months:

    ***

    Doc JD: a grab at martial law by the USA milindustrial complex probably made sense to the upper-level delusional gubmint wonks when they worked on this stuff 5-10 years ago. Now maybe some of them are looking at China (to cite just one glaring example ) and feeling not so confident about all this medical Orwellianism. Every power grab I see them make, especially via kovid, seems bound to leave them with a stumpy wrist.

    USA is a democracy. The people will dismantle their government as they will, almost certainly chaotically, desperately, and destructively, not TPTB. TPTB will, as we see now, cling to that power desperately, chaotically, and destructively.

    Having weaponized the populace rather like how they’ve weaponized the economy, they find themselves caught in numerous crossfires.

    None of which helps in terms of civilian boots-on-the-ground life challenges emerging across the nation and the world. But perhaps the worst thing is to worry about it. We drive at high speeds on crowded urban hiways and bebop to the radio as we dance with death on our daily commutes. Attitude is essential. So I take an easy deep breath and let the problems come to me rather than me running to them.

    ***

    Today’s Calvin pretty much sums up human civilization to me.

    #125405
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I wonder what effect Assange’s personal fate will have on things. Released, He’s a voice and powerful rallying point. Martyred… ? I wonder.

    #125406
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    ‘Released, He’s a voice’

    It was a typo, but I rather like sanctifying Julian.

    #125407
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    WHoa. Best thing I’ve heard in a decade. Somebody doing real modern composition for voice that actually retains melodicity without sacrificing what we learned from 20th Century Modern classical music.

    Lamentations

    #125408
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “The Washington Times reported the leak: “The…. House Jan. 6 committee released … visitor logs … containing nearly 2,000 unreacted Social Security numbers. At least three of the numbers, inadvertently leaked …”

    Inadvertently leaked. Assumes facts not yet in evidence.

    #125409
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    A tiny lingering Xmas miracle from Dec 2018, a time of considerably more hope than now. It kicks ass:

    Yee-HA!

    #125410
    Germ
    Participant

    Safe and Effective – haha !!

    dead

    TVASF

    #125411
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    People who live in the dark north know the power it takes to get through winter:

    Silent Might

    #125412
    Germ
    Participant

    Safe and Very Effective!

    dead2

    TVASF

    #125413
    Germ
    Participant

    Know what’s going on!

    dead3

    TVASF

    #125414
    Dora
    Participant

    MMA Rising Star Victoria Lee Dead At 18

    “Lee’s cause of death is still being held confidential by her parents but in recent months there have been dozens of reports of athletes dropping dead due to possible negative effects from the Covid-19 vaccine.

    Previously One Championship boss Chatri Sityodtong ordered all of the fighters on One’s roster to get vaccinated.”

    MMA Rising Star Victoria Lee Dead At 18

    #125415
    Dora
    Participant

    Dr. Peter McCullough.

    https://gettr.com/post/p24854a8e49

    #125416
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Elon Musk Named Honorary Congressman after Making $200 Billion Disappear” –BBee

    Nope. Not enough.

    “Seems that the Us Department of Defense centrally planned and controlled the ENTIRE Covid/DeathVax debacle for well over a decade.”

    Just MIGHT be why they don’t want to admit it leaked from one of their own paid labs, by their own paid people? That is, it won’t lead back to China but to us? Also when DoD highest level, why they all think they’ll have infinite immunity. Suppose Media falls and has to admit. Suppose Congress does, flips, investigates. Suppose we fire all of Congress, Media, President, everyone. DoD still there, protecting them.

    Layers and layers and layers of paid “protection”. That is, if you “protect” by oppressing, harassing, arresting, and murdering. If you want to know why, see below, next post.

    Ukraine’sAmerica’s “economy is in a shambles,” the ex-diplomat and former Pentagon chief wrote in the Washington Post on Saturday.” Fixed it.

    UkraineAmerica is suffering “extraordinarily high casualties” Fixed it again.

    No really, repeat: There’s nothing IN Asia. In a land war in Asia, there’s nothing to hold. The only thing that exists is the ARMY. Like the Mongol Army. Defeat the army, you can take more land than you can realistically hold. So as Lira says, the only thing that matters is what resources you have, what depth, and who is taking greater losses. When all that stops, one army will still exist and one won’t. Then the remaining army does whatever they feel like, for as long as they feel like. I’m not sure what USUK is up to, but it could be they are fighting Euro-American wars, where locations matter. They are holding Bakmud, the penultimate location, so as not to be shoved back to the Dniepr and lose all Ukraine, or at least the parts Russia cares about. This is idiotic, as nothing is happening except NATO finds Poles, then buses them up to Bakmud to get shot by Russians who are safe behind trenches, hanging around the Samovar. That is: minimum risk Russia; maximum risk/casualties Ukraine U-SUK.

    Do they think men are infinite or something, like a video game? One can only guess. There’s no great hand in Ukraine or Asia, but at the very LEAST you have to make Russia LESS safe and make them take MORE casualties than yourself. Maybe 10x more as they are 10x larger. They are not: they lost.

    “In any other ordinary year, the position of Speaker of the House would have been his almost automatically”

    Why? And yes, the Left should take notes, this is what the Squad promised. Vote straight Blue and “After we’re elected we’ll drive Joe Biden Left”. Dore is all over it, as this is EXACTLY what he said in “Force the Vote” that got him attacked by everyone and nearly deplatformed. That is, you are elected with LEVERAGE: obviously you USE that leverage and don’t give it away for nothing. And “Force the Vote” (On Medicare for All) was a pittance, a really, really, really low bar minimum – that’s why he was selling it, it was an easy ask, get things started, make a demonstration, a point. Nope. And a mere 8 members just got ASTONISHING concessions from their speaker, including the power to remove him at any time. Just 8.

    It’s like Sodom and Gomorrah “Lord, will you save this place if there are 8 honest men?”

    the Democratic Left’s Reichstag Fire. A bogus “insurrection” is invoked to justify a ruthless crackdown, widespread state surveillance and intimidation of political opponents, and a terrifying regime”

    They hate us for our freedoms. To defend America from Osama bin Laden, cave dweller, we just end all 10 Amendments and all Human rights coast to coast. Who’s with me? Mission Accomplished. Yeah, it would make more sense if it hadn’t ALREADY happened, and ALREADY with both parties foaming at the mouth in favor of it. The only enemy is The People. The only enemy is the #Truth. Government vs Us. Insiders vs Outsiders. That’s it.

    “ Switzerland Slated To Destroy Millions Of mRNA Vaccine Doses In 2023 (Eugyp)”

    Biggest Welfare Queens in the history of Earth: Corporations. Now larger welfare queens than even the banks. Tax money directly to pharmaceutical corporations directly to politicians, a merger of corporation and state. You’re either an Insider or an Outsider.

    So as we said a dozen times, Biden ordered 500 million doses for a nation already half vaccinated? WTF? Are they that bad at math? (Yes, but not THAT bad.) Canada? UK? Switzerland? Orders many more does than there are people? On no-bid, no show contracts? Explain?

    No. They won’t because they can’t. It’s DIRECT money transfer by the $100B to insider corporations, to fascists who kill people, just like Ukraine. Identical really, and the same folks.

    Direct money transfer. They print: direct to organized crime. Just like you would expect.

    Like you would expect if there were corruption, and over time that corruption grew slowly and unchecked. This is the obvious and only endpoint, easily predicted in 1956 even by knuckleheads like Ayn Rand. Does it not make you embarrassed for her to be right? Don’t you get sick over it?

    #125417
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    A study in Taiwan counted the high school students who got cardiac symptoms after the second Pfizer injection, even if they weren’t hospitalized.

    “Conclusion: Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine…”

    In total, 763 students (17.1%) had at least one cardiac symptom after the second vaccine dose, mostly chest pain and palpitations.

    Changes of ECG parameters after BNT162b2 vaccine in the senior high school students
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36602621/

    #125418
    Dr. D
    Participant

    This explains the above, and the overall tide:

    Dr.D: This is a scientific point: Underwater volcanism could explain the 30 clockwork warming/cooling cycles that are on very long timelines, very reliably cyclical, and not yet explained. Can you show me AGWs response to this hypothesis challenge?

    AFKTT: No.

    That’s aside from, as he himself says, one should never respond with mere ad hominem attacks. The Doctor is a Liar, and apparently another flavor of liar too. What is the lie? Did we not have 30 warming and cooling cycles as far back as science can see? Or is there no such thing as underwater volcanoes? The world may never know.

    Chart
    https://volcano.si.edu/faq/historical_activity_200years.jpg

    Now of course this is an amazingly short chart, but somehow it seems to show the #Opposite of your hypothesis. Volcanism is RISING, not falling. …But that’s no surprise, all things are cyclical, all data is messy, and therefore we have strange events like the Permian extinction which was clearly multiples higher than volcanoes before that, the teeny-tiny rise right now, etc. And overall volcanic activity might actually be dropping in the slowest scatter-point chart trend line 300 million year sense. But that would be entirely irrelevant to the case at hand if even ONE volcano goes off that blackens the sky and cools the earth like in Rome. Just ONE.

    Now why do I bring this up? 1) To show that we don’t know anything and have terrible data sets. You’d think Science would know that, they complain about it in grant proposals 365 days a year. 2) To show without data sets, we can’t even hypothesize enormous, hidden factors that are hanging like an anvil over our heads.

    But there’s the immediate question too, on every level. Antarctic researchers were recording unprecedented glacial melt. That got into the news, even though most of the field was floating already. On further study which the media did NOT report, it turned out to be an upturn in volcanism below the field was causing it. So there are a lot of fields and a lot of melts but if you read an article about how “Global Warming” is causing Antarctic ice melt, there’s a good chance it’s this one. It’s sitting on top of Vesuvius. Even a small burp uptick can have effects. That’s one.

    Second, researchers of course are overjoyed to get to the bottom of the oceans and look right at the mid-Atlantic trench, drive right up to the magma vents down there with a camera. Who wouldn’t? It’s virgin territory, visually cool, and fabulous proof of continental drift – which I remind was yet another conspiracy theory (YACT) when I was a child. We were just idiotic rubes who didn’t “get it” when we 8 year-olds asked why Africa and South America fit like puzzle pieces. “It means NOTHING. Literally NOTHING. Now shut up and do as you’re told” was the Science given to me. “Science is the art of NOT asking questions (test on Friday.)” …They’ve certainly perfect THAT art, the one about knowing which questions not to ask. I’m still an idiot. I never got the memo and still don’t know which questions not to ask.

    So great! We’re down there looking at underwater volcanoes. So what? Well there are some, right? You admit? How many? 2? 5? 100? The amazing thing the researchers s—t their pants on was THEY DIDN’T KNOW. When they started, they thought, like I’m sure we all do, that there were some, like you see in Italy and Oregon, You know, a kind of normal distribution we could attribute underwater same as above.

    Turned out that wasn’t the case. The more they looked the more they found. And this makes sense if you think about it, which, being humans, who had? I mean not really-really. The deep undersea has a far thinner crust than the top of the Cascades, it would be strange if there weren’t more volcanoes in a range 20,000 feet closer to the magma. But how many?

    No one knows. That’s the problem. They’re only just now in 2022 getting a baseline for how many we could expect boiling away down there. We can’t just deep-drive them all, mile by mile, the whole Pacific rim has hundreds of rifts all over, and there could be the same thing under the Indian Ocean we’ve never seen/didn’t know to look for. Hawaii demonstrates you can have double-Everest-sized volcanoes popping off in the middle of nowhere without a blip on the surface.

    Okay, Scientists said, how do we tackle this? If there are like 500x or 1,000x more volcanoes on earth than we thought – because we couldn’t see them – what does that mean overall? They may not throw ash, thank God, but they still have heat and CO2 components. Oh wait: A SINGLE volcano can throw more CO2 in a SINGLE release than an entire major nation in a year. But we had that all calculated nicely.

    But we just added 1,000x more volcanoes to the model – albeit small ones – so did we just add 1,000x more CO2 to our non-human-side accounting model? Does that mean we don’t need a Permian Extinction but a mere 5% rise in crust fragility and subsequent volcanism – easily within normal ranges and margins of error – could in theory account the WHOLE CO2 rise and the WHOLE temperature rise?

    …That remains to be seen, but yes. It COULD. And worse, if it is cyclical, as volcanism rises, heat rises, but only to a crecendo in which the heat causes the melt, causes the crust flex faster and faster until…yes, the volcanoes go off, the sky darkens, the cycle peaks and turns, then runs 1,000, 10,000 years down into an Ice Age, right on schedule. It COULD. This would explain those 30 million year temp charts, 29.999 million years before SUVs were invented.

    So what I’m describing here is the official state of the science right now. Go read the articles yourself. But “Could” itself is also not a theory. It’s for back of the envelope devil’s advocates, thought-creators like me, because those questions need to be asked, they will be, and already are. They are unavoidable.

    So AFKTT, you can’t avoid asking about – or deny – what science already knows and can’t unknow. It just looks silly. You can’t run back into the childhood textbooks of 6th grade. We found this out and now need to reckon it. I don’t expect you to personally, because no one knows yet and it will be years before we can find a way to count/measure/estimate the 2/3rds of the planet we can’t see.

    And back to Step 1, the reason this is relevant is that it could easily explain the incredible, clockwork, cyclical nature of both our temperature wave, AND why CO2 LAGS warming. Because it’s not in the atmosphere at all, up here where we’ve been looking. It’s a deep level planetary heartbeat, perhaps run deeper by the sun, who knows? But the volcanoes go off FIRST. The heating happens FIRST. The sea acidification from it happens FIRST. Then, eventually the cumulative CO2 reaches the surface, the atmospheric gauges from 1890 and our lagging ice cores.

    I’m not saying that IS the case. It’s just a hypothesis that has testable parameters. I’m just saying you DON’T know either. Because we only just saw it, we haven’t run those tests yet and therefore hasn’t been disproven yet.

    Part II:
    Now to stop the thoughtstoppers before they stop, what if that theory is true? The cyclical end is a cooling, although on our long charts the window for that may be 500-1,000 years, way out for our purposes, our personal decisions. What would happen? Well all the world’s crops would fail, not from cold per-se, but from a clouded sun. And we have a LOT of precedence for this. If the world’s crops fail, people starve. There’s no real way to store that much food, far beyond Joseph’s 7 years. If the world’s governments were aware of this – ‘believed it’, true our not – what would they do?

    I can think of three: 1) Fight over farmland in Libya and Ukraine 2) Reduce the population while they still had societal control and 3) Tax and control heat, that is: Carbon. Do we see that? Yes we do. What else?

    They DID say this in 1970-79. Science HAS held this official position that an Ice Age is the next logical cycle. But then Science was bought out as the Club of Rome was funded and appeared. Wall Street and elsewhere act like nothing matters and there is no tomorrow. Why? Why destroy their own nest after all these centuries? DUMB bunkers went overdrive for some reason and may be the location of a lot of our missing $40 Trillion dollars. That’s a lot of dough. They all seem to think there’s no tomorrow and put their money where their mouth is.

    Topsiders might: 1) Try to get off planet. 2) Take over countries and establish gated communities, especially if surrounded by moderating water like New Zealand. 3) Buy up all the farmland they can in their home nations. 4) Control the food system, be it railroads, silos, or GMO seeds. 5) Drive all the people out of the farmland and into the cities. This better controls the food production and makes it easier to regulate/kill the food consumption. Look at it the other way: if there is a farm every 500 acres, those people will never get on board with anything and will always be a direct threat to any control. The only way to get that control is to remove humans from the land and farm with AI GPS bots if possible.

    What next?
    6) YOU WOULD SAY IT IS FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. …But you can’t say why, now can you? It would cause a panic. A panic wrecks the system you need to be functional to prepare, and drive up the price of food and farmland while you are buying them, and alerts the nations you are about to invade and occupy for their crops. So exactly NONE of their explanations make sense why you are FOR REAL trying – with every fiber of your being – to SAVE humanity, these morons. So all you do is logically the infinite good, at the infinite extreme, and “The Ends Justify the Means”. Only for you. And only right now, you know, for 100+ years you live in. Might as well buy a yacht while you can, I guess.

    Any of this sound familiar?

    Okay, flip side: if they believed in Warming, does the model match? No. There are like 10 key items that fall out, like they wouldn’t believe the fields in their zones they are buying by the billions would produce, they wouldn’t buy houses at sea level, and they would TRY to grow/make/do stuff. That would be possible in a warming. But not in cooling, or specifically a volcanic cooling.

    This is why they think – know – humanity is a virus and must be killed by the billions. THEY’RE NOT KIDDING. And if you believed this as the best insider Science, you’d wake up in a cold sweat every morning. Not telling the world and letting them be Netfix-watching sugar-sacks is a MERCY. Right? There’s about to be no food. Period. This is Deep Time, Geological time, and is impossible to avoid, mitigate, or outgrow.

    Can you understand their point of view now? Their PMC frustrated, Karen-cares “Better-than-thou” shrill nagging and scolding? Why won’t the people do the thing? We literally could save so many more. BUT THAT DOESN’T MAKE THEM RIGHT. It’s just a theory. I don’t decide a week ahead that we’re on this lifeboat, we won’t get saved, we have 5 cans left and therefore I am going to kill you and throw the weakest overboard when they’re sleeping tonight because “It’s only logical.” It may in fact BE logical. However, we may also find a swordfish or be rescued tomorrow. We’re not that smart. WE. DON’T. KNOW.

    That is the root of the astroturfed, non-organic, highly-orchestrated campaigns, first in real science, magazines, etc, as early as 1979, then later on the new social medias once they existed and the tech was refined. But as the outside indicators appear, they too move faster in a “panic” to stay ahead of what they believe is coming. That doesn’t mean it IS coming, but I have to cope with the actions they take when they believe it, and those actions are to kill me. Those actions are to lie and herd people in a way THEY believe saves them. But you don’t want to be the part of the herd culled “For your own good.”

    Understand DoD, interlocking billionaires, government, and media on Covid now? On the vax, essentially promoted randomly, voluntarily, as a “Save the Nation” basis? They’re not kidding. It’s just not Covid they fear. It IS population, as Jensen says, and 99% of the other Schmarties.

    I disagree. But the clash of match-up for AGW vs the accurate lineup if they believe Geological Global Cooling (or at least weather disruption) tells all.

    #125419
    Germ
    Participant

    Just published:

    “Among 7934 eligible students, 4928 (62.1%) were included in the study. The male/female ratio was 4576/352. In total, 763 students (17.1%) had at least one cardiac symptom after the second vaccine dose, mostly chest pain and palpitations.”

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36602621/

    Don’t believe anybody who tells you this rat juice is safe.

    TVASF

    #125420
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Artificial Stupidity®

    I like it!

    It’s an idea Whose Time has Come!

    .

    And doing more to stop Ivermectin and Hydro-Q than Fentanyl, well, Craptastic!

    .

    #125421
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #125422
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Shuckin’ an Jivin’ in the the Empire of Lies®

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    #125423
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    ‘Man made climate change’ was invented when activists realised global temperatures were likely to go sideways until 2030. This is due to an interaction between the solar cycle and ocean oscillations. This gives 30 years of warming and then 30 years of cooling. The cooling phase started in 1998 offsetting the global warming caused as the Earth recovers from the horrific ‘Little Ice Age’.

    [An ‘oscillation’ is when large areas of warm surface water sinks below the colder waters beneath! This can be for extended periods, for example for the Pacific Decadal Oscillation these layers swap places every ten years! Real climate science is weird!]

    There is no science supporting the idea that CO2 levels influence global temperatures. The only science shows the reverse. Current CO2 levels reflect global temperatures from 600 years ago! The data comes from ice and sediment cores.

    Increased CO2 levels are a good thing. CO2 is essential for plants and they grow far better with more CO2. These huge Dutch style greenhouses often add CO2 to improve the plant growth.

    Climate change is unusual weather that has happened before. There was a kerfuffle when part of Siberia reached 100 Fahrenheit. This also happened in Gnome Alaska in 1915. We just don’t appreciate the effects of 24 hours/day of sunlight for weeks.

    These beliefs are likened to a religion and often means that followers stop using their intelligence. We are in the ‘New Dark Age’.

    For example there is concern that rising sea levels will swamp coral islands, BUT sea levels have risen hundreds of feet in the past 10,000 years so why do these places exist? And why do they all happen to be at sea level? The answer is that they are piles of sand which rise and fall with sea levels. Some parts may sink and other areas will appear above the sea. A survey some years ago found that land area had increased by 50%. They are not going to disappear!

    To add insult : the ‘greenhouse effect’ in actual greenhouses was disproved in the 1950s. Two identical enclosures were built with one covered in glass and the other with rock crystal. The glass covered area was 0.1C warmer, so an almost non-existant ‘greenhouse effect’. Greenhouses work by creating a barrier to the outside environment.

    I feel sorry for those who have been brainwashed into thinking they must sacrifice everything to ‘fight’ climate change. They will achieve nothing apart from making a few people very rich and wasting huge amounts of fossil fuel!

    ‘Green’ policies are a bit like Jenga. They don’t seem to cause problems, but then things fall apart!

    [Joseph Goebbels, Hitler’s propaganda minister: “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it.”]

    #125424
    The Markster
    Participant

    Reaching out to old friends in Portland this week, hearing a new narrative emerge. Parents recognizing that the lockdowns and masking harmed their children. Even the DNC-Russiagate propaganda organ Willamette Week calling out lockdowns, although indirectly. People are recognizing we have been put through a time of orchestrated madness, although not yet pinning blame where it belongs (a dictatorial Dem Governor, authoritarian liberal pols and their “health” agencies, liberal-run school districts). A TDS victim putting their child in Catholic school halfway through the year after getting creeped out by the sex/gender/hate stuff they see being served up by “mean, arrogant” culture warriors in the Portland Public Schools.

    Perhaps Denninger is right and there is more hope than it looks like right now. If my Uber liberal former cohort in Portland is starting to ask questions like these, maybe the sunshine is leaking through the windows of their prison cells. A happy thought, and encouragement enough for now. ☮️

    #125425
    Red
    Participant

    @doc-robinson

    @germ

    From the abstract:
    Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine, but the incidences of significant arrhythmias and myocarditis are only 0.1%.

    Aren’t those higher odds than damage from the vid?

    #125426
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • Donald Trump Slams Arrest Of Ashli Babbitt’s Mother

    Too bad The Donald didn’t slam the arrest of Julian Assange or pardon him

    #125427
    zerosum
    Participant

    Kiev has publicly proclaimed that it plans a major offensive in the spring, (before the last snowballs melt.)
    ———
    Did you know?

    The arrest of Ashli Babbitt’s mother. Ashli Babbitt was killed by a United States Capitol Police officer on Jan. 6. Witthoeft was arrested outside of the Capitol on Friday, the two-year anniversary of her daughter’s death. Babbitt, an unarmed Air Force veteran, was fatally shot by Lt. Michael Byrd. while attempting to make entry into the interior of the Capitol Building. According to The National Pulse’s Raheem Kassam, Witthoeft was arrested for “jaywalking.”
    ——–
    Get Herd Immunity by going to a football game
    People that go to a football game have Herd Immunity
    ———-

    #125429
    zerosum
    Participant

    My # 1 priority, put food on the table.

    #125430
    John Day
    Participant

    Tessa Lena and I had a good talk a couple of months ago, about my experience of practicing medicine during COVID, treating people early as outpatients, the politics of that, including the politics of dehumanizing “the unvaccinated”, which did not reach the critical buy-in to put people into concentration camps, which was prepared, and openly advocated, for instance in New York, Canada and Australia.
    Tessa has edited this into an interview. I’m somewhat embarrassed about how kindly she describes me, but here it is:
    https://tessa.substack.com/p/mlga-dr-john-day

    Go Down Gardening is the blog post from October 2021, telling the tale of my firing from the clinic, for refusing COVID “vaccination”, while planting winter vegetables for my coworkers. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/10/go-down-gardening.html

    OTC COVID Rxs For Omicron, from late December 2021 is also mentioned in our interview, and contains a lot of useful information about self treatment of coronavirus illness with over the counter medicines and supplements, including specifics of treating large cats or other large mammals for COVID with ivermectin horse paste, should somebody find themselves in such a position by chance. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/12/otc-covid-rxs-for-omicron.html

    Yes, the vintage Sears Aloha shirt I am wearing is the same one I wore when I tld Tulsi Gabbard about getting chloroquine for America, to treat COVID, March 2, 2020, when she came to Austin, campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/03/six-billion-doses.html

    #125431
    Red
    Participant

    Authored by Tom Luongo via Gold, Goats, ‘n Guns blog,

    Turkey’s decision to press ahead with the Russian purchase [S-400’s] has not only put it on a collision course with Washington, which is threatening to scrap the F-35 deal at the end of the month; it also shows Ankara’s utter contempt for the Nato alliance, an attitude that key European member states such as Britain must demonstrate they are no longer able to tolerate.

    His conclusion, Turkiye’s contempt for NATO, which I can’t really argue with, is grounds for its dismissal from the alliance.

    But, as I said, this kind of reaction is exactly what Erdogan needs from the West, who have treated him and Turkiye as a fifth wheel for a long time. The neocons can frame his antics however they like but have they really thought through what happens after that?

    Knowing the neocon mindset, I don’t think they have. They are so focused on Russia and convinced of the outcome of their war against it that they can just kick one of the largest armies in the world to the curb with immense geostrategic importance in the crotch and it won’t matter.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkeys-erdogan-flips-syria-its-head

    #125432
    zerosum
    Participant

    Retribution for Makiivka.

    In response to the criminal strike of the Kiev regime in the first minutes of January 2023, a retaliatory operation was carried out by the command of the Joint Group of Russian Troops on the point of temporary deployment of Russian servicemen in the village of Makiivka of the Donetsk People’s Republic.

    Over the past days, Russian intelligence assets have uncovered and reliably confirmed through several independent channels the points of temporary deployment of servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the city of Kramatorsk.

    There were more than 700 Ukrainian servicemen in hostel No. 28 and more than 600 Ukrainian servicemen in hostel No. 47.

    As a result of a massive missile strike on these points of temporary deployment of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, more than 600 Ukrainian servicemen were killed. (c) Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    #125433
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Red

    Why would Turkiye want the sub-sonic grossely overpriced underperforming F-35 Lardbucket® when they might get a chance at an actual 5th generation supersonic SU-57 at a far lower price?

    #125434
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Don’t want Presidementia Pedo Joe is see any sign of shitholes

    .

    #125435
    Germ
    Participant

    Viral Immunologist Dr. Byram Bridle Speaks Out

    The money quote – “As someone who designs vaccines for a living, I can tell you there is nothing they are doing with these (Covid) vaccines that is logical.”

    TVASF

    #125436
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @TheMarkster
    Wowzer. When the folks in the world capital of broke-brained “fucked up” Wokesterism (Portland, Oregon, USA) awaken to the fact that lockdowns, masks and jabs are hurting kids . . . . then it’s safe to say that the world itself is waking up.

    #125437
    jb-hb
    Participant

    WHAT’S SO BAD ABOUT EXTINCTIONS?

    The Planetary Meltdown people shout “Extinctions!” and assume anyone on the other side of the debate must lie down and die for them.

    Like, whatever anyone says, we can smugly think to ourselves “Extinctions!” lalala cannot hear you.

    So I am asking. TELL ME. Not for some other purpose, not joking. Literally explain to me what is bad about extinctions.

    I promise to explain to you what’s wrong about killing 8 billion people if you do – that way we’ll each gain something.

    A. Is it bad for PRAGMATIC reasons? For the sake of humanity?

    I am unconvinced. If it gets warmer, moister, with more CO2, there will be more plant life and more of all the life that lives off of it, which includes humans.

    If you transported humans back 100 million years ago, I seriously doubt they’d exclaim “OMG, a bit warmer!” and keel over dead. The main change would be KFC using Dino Bits. Our crops and livestock would have areas of the earth they’d do well in, and we’d quickly breed and genetically engineer versions of them that could live all over. We’d extinct the nastier predators (except for in national parks and zoos) and domesticate the useful dinos.

    So if the future with more CO2, warmer, and moister looks great for humans, how exactly is this a problem for me?

    Like in Asimov’s Caves of Steel, humans are problem-solvers. If we run out of land area, we’ll freeze the oceans in blocks and boost them into orbit to make more room or whatever crazy thing we have to do. We’ll use our brains and opposable thumbs to adapt to the environment and adapt it to us. We’ll be FINE if it is warmer. The scientific record PROVES it would, if anything, be better not worse. We could go back 100 million years and THRIVE.

    And if you say it is NOT fine for humans to do great while bad things happen to other species:
    FIRST define AND prove “bad”
    SECOND prove to me that I am not entitled to any in-group preference.
    THIRD, explain why all other species ARE entitled to in-group preference while I am not.
    FOURTH, explain why you abandoned Pragmatism For Humanity so readily when it was YOUR OWN supporting argument.

    B. Is it for Moral reasons?

    Mother Nature says – SHAME on you, Humanity. Humanity is responsible for, and will be resonsible for, extinctions of species. Extinction is WRONG.

    Considering Mother Nature, has murdered many, MANY orders of magnitude more species than Humanity can even dream of extincting, she has a lot of gall pointing the finger at us. She’s been wiping out species in mass-extinctions for eons while Humanity didn’t exist. If Mother Nature does it all the time AND IS ABOUT TO DO IT AGAIN, wtf is so bad about humanity causing Mass Extinction? Seriously, I don’t get it. ACTUALLY explain it to me.

    Mother Nature is berating me for murder. She’s actually in the middle of swinging her axe up to re-enact the same exact method of mass extinction murder for the 41st time! This is in addition to all the many, MANY more times she has done this using various different methods.

    And she has the gall to berate me for killing just SOME of her victims an

      instant

    before SHE does? While her axe is in mid-stroke? I’m supposed to be filthy with Climate-Sin because I killed a FEW of the very SAME EXACT species she was going to kill in the next geological instant? Along with massive numbers of other extinctions SHE will commit? And the only thing that will SAVE those many endangered species is what I am doing: breaking the glacial cycle???

    Oh shut your filthy mouth, Mother Nature, you disengenous, hypocritical, murderous hoor.

    Seriously. Gagillions and gagillions of mass extinction events with NO human involvement. Please explain what is so MORALLY special about THESE SPECIFIC species now in existence, that RIGHT NOW we must turn on a magical stasis field? So they can survive another 1-3,000 years, less than an eyeblink in geological and evolutionary time? And then die with re-glaciation.

      …IF humans fail to change the climate.

    One may be tempted to flip/reframe it, counter-arguing using (B)Moral arguments during the (A)Pragmatic section and (A)Pragmatic arguments during the (B)Moral section. IF so PLEASE DO rotate your eyeballs the 1 degree necessary to refer to the relevant subject – rather than trying to win by arguing outside of context. Thank you in advance.

    #125438
    Noirette
    Participant

    Yes, Oroboros. Trump would have gathered tremendous support worldwide for pardoning Assange + seeing to his OK life somewhere, e.g. in Australia, with wifey + little kiddies.

    I suppose he, Trump, was told (the deep state neo-con crowd who advised him) that it was a no-no, for x reasons. The ‘cancelling’ of Assange has much to do with the murder of Seth Rich, Democrat plots, etc.

    Recently, many MSM articles support / call for / predict / the ‘freeing’ of Assange.

    I reckon, hope, it will happen. It has become super embarassing for the US. Chinese and Russian diplos, + others, sneer at the free-speech and ‘rules-based’ order, bringing up the Assange example, extreme cruelty to a non-violent journalist…

    #125439
    Red
    Participant

    @oroboros

    Exactly! Why? Erdogan using smoke and mirrors. Playing the same game i.e. not agreement capable? Or getting out from a contract to buy crap without penalty of being the one who cancels? Much longer article, only pasted a small bit. He does seem to be angling east with most of the rest of the region/south. What’s that smell? I believe it may be war of a larger scale, then seen in decades! About eight decades!

    #125440
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    @ Red
    “Cardiac symptoms are common after the second dose of BNT162b2 vaccine, but the incidences of significant arrhythmias and myocarditis are only 0.1%.”
    Aren’t those higher odds than damage from the vid?

    0.1% is 1 per thousand,
    which equals 100 per 100,000
    after the second injection of the mRNA vaxx.
    (In another study, myocarditis in children was additionally found after the first injection of the Pfizer mRNA.)

    The CDC estimates the risk of myocarditis/pericarditis from a case of Covid to be somewhere around 50-65 per 100,000 for males age 12-17, which is probably overestimated because the number of people infected by Covid is greater than the number of documented cases of Covid, while incidences of myocarditis are less likely to be undocumented.

    The post-vaxx 100 per 100,000 “significant arrhythmias and myocarditis” may not be 100% apples-to-apples with the post-Covid 60-65 per 100,000 “myocarditis/pericarditis”, but the rates of myocarditis/pericarditis resulting from Covid are probably overestimated due to all the undocumented Covid infections.

    Moreover, the Covid strains are evolving to become less damaging, while the vaxx damage risks are only increasing with the additional injections.

    …myocarditis is a known cardiovascular sequala of COVID-19. The CDC estimated that among men 12-17 and 18-29, the incidence of myocarditis and myocarditis or pericarditis was 50.1-64.9 and 55.3-100.6 cases per 100,000, respectively…

    Furthermore, calculating the incidence of myocarditis after vaccination is relatively precise given that the two inputs, cases of myocarditis and vaccine doses administered, are known. The calculation for estimating the incidence of myocarditis after SARS-CoV-2 infection is more challenging to obtain because the total number of people who have had an infection is likely unknown and unattainable. Studies typically rely on documented infections, which likely suffers the flaw of undercounting the total number of infections because not everyone with the infection has a documented positive test. Thus, the incidence may be inflated and inaccurate.

    COVID-19 vaccine induced myocarditis in young males: A systematic review
    Benjamin Knudsen,Vinay Prasad

    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1111/eci.13947

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