Debt Rattle June 17 2023
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June 17, 2023 at 8:40 am #137089Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Paul Klee Sicilian Landscape1924 • Putin Predicts Fate Of F-16 In Ukraine (RT) • Kiev ‘Facing Tough Resistance’ From Russian Troops – Zelensky
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 17 2023]June 17, 2023 at 9:16 am #137090GermParticipantMornin’ all!
Scottish youth football coach dies suddenly as ‘proud’ dad leads tributes
https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/scottish-youth-football-coach-dies-27142384
TVASSF(safe and effective)
June 17, 2023 at 10:13 am #137091Michael ReidParticipant”
Renown Swiss historian Daniele Ganser discusses his new book “USA: The Ruthless Empire”, the Military-Industrial-Complex and Security State, the Washington elite, and how the establishment continues to falsely pretend that America is not an empire. Illegal NATO regime change operations and expansion provoked Russia’s illegal Ukraine invasion. He is convinced the multipolar world is here and in the making. U.S. elite don’t want a strong Europe and the Nord Stream false flag was a demonstration of that. He believes we are witnessing ‘imperial overstretch’ as tactics such as color revolutions become less successful. He also comments on COVID-19 and the danger of “digital empire” and the Chinese-style social credit system coming to the West.
”Daniele Ganser: America is a Ruthless Empire, but Multipolarity is in the Making
June 17, 2023 at 10:31 am #137092Dr. DParticipanthttps://media.babylonbee.com/articles/64872cc3368ad64872cc3368ae.jpg
“U.S. — The official state religion of the United States entered its High Holy Days today, with worshipers around the nation being called to rededicate themselves in submission and obedience to its holy teachings.
“I am urging all Americans to publicly bend the knee before our sacred rainbow symbol,” said President Biden in an address to the nation. “Let us all take the time to pray and feast before our god of prideful human flesh, and before its sacred messengers, the genitals. We are a nation of Pride, blessings be upon its name.” –BBee
“New Jersey Schools Report More Than 4,200 Percent Increase In Nonbinary Students In Four Years
Totally normal. Weird how the most popular and celebrated group seems to be picking up new members from insecure, popularity-seeking teens.
In other news: thousands of children “died suddenly” in their sleep, parents have NO CURIOSITY as to why. It just happens, I guess. No autopsy, no doctor, no demands, not upset at all. Nothing reported in the paper except “He was wonderful and loved”, therefore when he died inexplicably, we loved our children so much, we did nothing! Didn’t even look!
Ellsberg, Duty:
When they found out about this, they paid for a 40 year educational initiative to destroy “duty”, “Right and wrong”, and to make sure everyone that came after him would be afraid. It worked. One problem though: people like Ellsberg are competent and rational; they make good decisions that help the nation and Empire. If you train them to not be Ellsberg, to be cowardly, irrational, immoral, and self-serving, they make decisions that destroy the nation and collapse the Empire. Your choice. No free lunch. I guess we know which we have right now.
“”More than 6,000 Ukrainians are being trained right now at 40 different training locations in 33 nations on three continents” -Mark Milley
Cool story bro. Sounds wonderful. Can we back up a bit? Six-thousand? Six? So you’re saying 1/10th of the office-dwelling hunters of West Virginia could wipe out your entire New Army? In a weekend? They’d be wiped out walking from one end of Chicago to the other, a gun-free zone?
…And you’re going to send them into RUSSIA, which just wiped out 5,000 men a DAY?
…Okay, you go with that. I guess he fits the Ellsberg model, above.
“The F-16s will have to be stationed in Germany and Poland. And Russia will not wait till they show up in Ukraine”
Re-reading the coffee table prophesy of Alois, about 1900. He said in the future everyone would walk around staring at their gray cigarette cases, no idea what that means. His vision was Russia would suddenly rush to far West Germany, unstoppably. Therefore, the response was to drop a “yellow powder” from the Baltic to the Black Sea that kills everything it touches, plants, animals, minerals, 100 mile wide line, trapping Russia’s foray on the West side. This happens after there are a wild number of foreigners invading Germany, many dark people.
Okay, great plan. At 100 miles wide you killed a nation the size of two Germanies in Europe, your own territory and people. The “Golden City”, Prague, ceases to exist forever, probably in the powder line. And didn’t stop Russia, btw, who then drops a tsunami bomb off UK. (rightfully so) But that’s what I was referring to the other day and happily ran into it again, thinking of it.
F16s? Alois says “The war won’t take very long.” This is what happens when people can’t tell the truth.
“ongoing counteroffensive, losing 186 tanks and 418 armored vehicles”
In two weeks. So we need to produce well in excess of 100 tanks/week, 5200 tanks a year, armed and in theatre. Or 2x-5x that, since these tanks did NOTHING. Well? Are we going there? Nope, because they’ve got the yellow powder and can kill everyone in Eastern Europe while we drink Champers in Paris. The plan IS to draw Russia out from where they’re safely in their own borders. Unf Russia knows this too well. Maybe it requires replacing Putin with a warhawk.
““[The Jews] say that Zelensky is not a Jew, he is a disgrace to the Jewish people. I’m not joking,”
And he’s not. Ze was not born that way, and his kids are baptized. Look how fast and easily he ‘converted’ to pretend Jew, just as GWB ‘converted’ to be a Baptist a day before his Presidential Campaign, and note how lock step, how universal the media in reporting it with shrill denial, just as they did GWB and blamed the “Christian Right” for the Iraq war. So, using the Jews as a hostage and still-bleeding skin suit, right out in the open. Everyone lets them and approves. The real Jews themselves deny it, everyone hits them on the head with a shovel and say “get back in your hole.”
Later they’ll say the Jews were running everything, even as they were denying it, and that the millions who go to Temple are not real Jews, but Ze and Soros, who support Nazis, openly round up Jews and send them to their Nazi deaths, actually are Jews. Sure pal, sure.
Since no one cares, what was that guy said “You’re of the devil and YOU put the demon in that guy”? And he said, “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” “You will know them by their fruits.” Stupid is as stupid does? Maybe not the last one. Hmmm, guys who kill all Jews are…maybe…I might be reaching here…Not Jews? Because then they’d be rounding up and creating murder structures for…themselves? Don’t know what it takes to make this more obvious.
So…we believe chronic and open liars like Ze and Soros, but DON’T believe Rabbinical groups who have historically been entirely earnest. The Rabbis don’t know what a Jew is, but Sum Dum Guy does. Riiiiight. Sounds like a scam to me. Hardly even a scam – a scam would have to be clever. This is just “See that sun up there in the sky? It doesn’t exist; actually it’s black.” And the people say “Uh-huh, you’re right and a genius, shut up and take my children!”
“Anglo-Saxons Control Collective West – Lavrov (RT)
Since by that he means England (and the 5 eyes) and Germany, he’s correct. Spain and France will tell you that, I think.
“..Warsaw is considering submitting restitution demands to Kiev for the 1943 Volhynia massacres, which saw over 100,000 Poles killed..”
Setting the stage. Not sure they have the people’s support for anything though, as if that matters anymore.
“the occupiers are still on our land means freezing the conflict, the pain and the suffering,” Zelensky said”
The pain of not being able to shell Russians in the Donbas themselves. It hurts! How we long to kill another 10,000 children in open markets! Please help. Send your money today. For just $1 a day, you too can help us get some cluster bombs and snipe a toddler. UNICEF.
“Now the “strategy” is to invent a Taiwan Question out of nothing, which is configuring the chessboard as the ante-chamber of no holds barred Hybrid War against Russia-China.”Our plan after losing is to lose again. Btw, Alois said China actually invades the whole West coast, mostly likely into Canada as well, but unsurprisingly, they can’t hold it. It’s huge and the number of people-ships is probably more than exist on the planet. This coincides with the Hopi prophesy of the “Red Ants”. Great. So happy. Thinking I don’t want to stand around San Fran when it happens, though. If I were China, I’d liquidate all 40 million people. Even though they love and would take in China with open arms, them being both “Socialist” (in name anyway) and not being White, they are therefore clearly ethnically superior, a master race almost! Apparently, Bill Gates will help. Maybe when China holds it under martial law, everyone needs a vax for all those medieval diseases, no?
“Musk slammed the fellow billionaire for holding a short position on Tesla shares worth around $2 billion.”
How the game is played: Gates takes out a short. They remove Tesla from the ESG list and put Exxon up there as #1. Stock goes down. Rubes are fleeced and beg for more ESG.
“• Unprecedented Funding Crisis: UN To Cut Food Aid For 2.5 Million In Syria (MEE)”
That’s totally funny, since I seem to remember reading somewhere that some nation…in the Northeast?…has overwhelming quantities of grain sitting around? And is asking the UN about exporting it? And the UN said “No! That will keep people alive and we want each and every, all humans dead”? …Something like that. Considering the distance, I bet you could move it an a Mediterranean Rowing Galley.
Tesla: it’s not a truck. It can’t carry anything. Pretty sure it can’t tow anything either. It’s a joke Elon drew with a crayon when he was high as a kite.
June 17, 2023 at 11:12 am #137093boscohorowitzParticipantLife in the era of information overload.
June 17, 2023 at 11:48 am #137094OroborosParticipantDaniel Ellsberg explaining why he didn’t regret the Pentagon Papers
Shocking to see what real integrity actually looks like.
Hardly seen today in the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation
The thugs and goons and criminals running the present government are the legacy of the same crowd Ellsberg dealt with half a century ago.
One might entertain the thought that they are an ancient cabal of blood drinking Satanists.
The only source of justice seems to be watching the Russians turn the Satanist’s proxy inside out in Ukronaziland like a cheap skirt on a $20 whore.
The 1970’s version of the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation killing 2 million Vietnamese for the paycheck of the Military Industrial Mafia
Daniel Ellsberg and wife Patrica
Someone she could be proud of
June 17, 2023 at 12:01 pm #137095OroborosParticipantRussian Tank Destroys American M2 Bradley
Like shooting fish in a barrel
June 17, 2023 at 12:10 pm #137096Dr D RichParticipantAt Dr. D and his Ellsberg (((anti-Thesis)))
Who spared Daniel Ellsberg the Assange Treatment, The JFK Protocol and The John Murtha Murder by MMIC?
A. Christian Scientists
B. Episcopalians
C. Ashkenazi Jews
S. Harvard connections
E. Fellow Marines
F. Strength of his arguments in the court staffed by the same deep state apparatchiks that labeled Ellsberg the most dangerous man in AmericaI imagine it’s the same Deep State psychosis that “indemnifies” ex-con ex-Marine Scott Ritter to roam freely to and fro Russia while The Chair JCS Milley exposes the depths Ritter’s country is at war with Ritter’s country’s mortal enemy, Russia.
I mean that kinda shit just happens out in the open every single day.
What is (((their))) method for selecting the targets for blanket indemnity and those alternately subjected to the double bind?***MMIC: military medical industrial complex
(((Murtha’s mortal sin wasn’t so much his criticism of the Haditha massacre. Rather, Jack was about to blow a big hole in the MMIC by exposing billion dollar corruption in military disability programs. He mailed formal correspondence promising as much the day before the fateful surgery that resulted in his death 11 days later)). QTC. Lockheed. Amick. Bethesda. Principia. VA. Madigan. Etc))June 17, 2023 at 12:19 pm #137097OroborosParticipantGun Control in Duh’merica 2023 style
Land of the Free, Home of the Brave
June 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm #137098OroborosParticipantMom wasn’t too happy
June 17, 2023 at 12:45 pm #137099OroborosParticipantRitual Humiliation
The Checkered Flag to kick off the Empire of Lies Century of Humiliation
Like China’s Century of Humiliation but different
https://twitter.com/i/status/1669352943462805508
“I’m going off script and I’ll get in trouble….”
June 17, 2023 at 12:51 pm #137100choochParticipantDr. D Rich,
Who has Prigozhin’s back?
“I sent this contract through several channels, tried to pass it through the mail acceptance window to the Ministry of Defense, this is what you saw. I sent it by mail and handed it over to the courier, so that they would definitely receive it. I will not disclose all the nuances of the contract yet. I think that the Ministry of Defense itself will merge it in the near future, as soon as it receives it, ”publishes Prigozhin’s audio message from his press office.
Seems to want to sign over his men. Looks like he wanted a video time stamp of his efforts.
"Today I took the letter with the contract to the Russian Ministry of Defense. And here’s what came out of it." Wagner PMC CEO Yevgeny Prigozhin [part 1/2]
by u/hot3000mails in UkraineWarVideoReport"Today I took the letter with the contract to the Russian Ministry of Defense. And here’s what came out of it." Wagner PMC CEO Yevgeny Prigozhin [part 2/2]
by u/hot3000mails in UkraineWarVideoReportJune 17, 2023 at 12:53 pm #137101choochParticipantAt SPIEF (St. Petersburg Intl Economic Forum) 2023, you (Prigozhin) were named trendsetter of the year, meaning you set trends in modern reality. How do you feel about this assessment and what do you think about it?
“I think that modern trends are dictated by the Russian soldier and the Russian people, who have decided that they do not want lies, do not want deceit and do not want double standards.
As for the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, a friend of mine emailed me a series of photos from the Internet, or rather collages – on the one hand, today’s forum, and on the other hand, what is happening at the front. These are two realities. What is happening today at the St. Petersburg forum is called a feast during the plague. And it has nothing to do with the economy, it has to do with the secular lifestyle and the parties that used to be in London. And now they are not enough for a certain number of elites.”
June 17, 2023 at 1:00 pm #137102choochParticipantRegarding consciousness,
Not evil in others, of which we seem to be well aware, but evil in ourselves. Evil that we know we would commit given the right circumstances.
June 17, 2023 at 1:28 pm #137103zerosumParticipantDepopulation
Stopping the war supply lines, not food aid, will stop the war.
Lindner explained that the EU has maxed out its long-term budget through 2027, largely as a result of the bloc’s lavish aid packages to Ukraine.
The UN has warned that due to an unprecedented funding crisis, it will be cutting food aid to at least 2.5 million Syrians. More than 5.5 million Syrians rely on the UN World Food Programme (WFP) for their basic food needs.
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Democracy
Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, and Zaporozhye Regions, voted to join the Russian Federation last year.
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“Colonial instincts – live at the expense of others. Nothing else.” – Lavrov
“defending democracy” “Western values” “Nazi views”
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What kind of ism is this?
The Kiev gang sold Ukraine to $8.5 trillion-worth BlackRock
The deal was sealed between the Government of Ukraine and BlackRock’s VP Philipp Hildebrand.They are setting up a Ukrainian Development Fund (UDF) for “reconstruction”, focused on energy, infrastructure, agriculture, industry and IT. All remaining valuable assets in what will be a rump Ukraine will be gobbled up by BlackRock: from Metinvest, DTEK (energy) and MJP (agriculture) to Naftogaz, Ukrainian Railways, Ukravtodor and Ukrenergo.
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What will happen if Russia wins?
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WHY … All/everything that most people know/believe is what the media in reporting.
———June 17, 2023 at 2:22 pm #137104OroborosParticipant• Germany Has No More Money For EU – Finance Minister
Hahahaha
Energy, the Master Resource, is going to be permanently too expensive in Deutschland, the ‘economic engine’ of Eurotardistan.
When the Sun’s not shining and the Winds aren’t blow, and the nuke plants are all mothballed, it’s going to be time to hitch up the donkey to the turnip wagon in old Deutschland cause not much will be shaking except the German public sobbing into their beer, if they can still afford even a glass.
As Germany collapses into an agricultural backwater dotted with Disney theme parks, the rest of Eurotardistan will descend into Real Chaos, cause the lights will flicker and the food will experience ‘supply chain’ problems.
But look at the bright side, Eurotardistan will still have Pride Parades to celebrate their diversity
And the Ring that the Empire of Lies installed in their collective noses will lead them to their North Star.
June 17, 2023 at 2:23 pm #137105The MarksterParticipantOMG Oroboros LOL, that first video where the wannabe gangsta gets busted by mommy & thrown out da house LOL…
June 17, 2023 at 2:48 pm #137107OroborosParticipantMore than Leopard tanks and M2 Bradleys are burning in Ukronaziland, it is the reputation of Raytheon which is nearly finished by now.
Empire of Lies Military Industrial Mafia can’t produce anything that works in quantity, much less in quality.
Raytheon Warwhores© lost the missile race, both offensive and defensive 25 years ago to Russia.
Putin said that Russia eliminated five Patriot complexes near Kiev
Party on Wayne!
Party on Garth!
June 16, 2023
The Russian military destroyed five American Patriot anti-aircraft missile systems near the Ukrainian capital, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at SPIEF.
The Patriot air-defensive system is junk
James Kunstler
“What we are witnessing is military malpractice on a colossal scale.”
Almost no one wants Empire of Lies ‘weapons’ unless they are coerced into buying them at outrageous prices.
Ukronaziland is where NATOtard weapons go to die.
Judge Napolitano and I Discuss General Milley’s Criminal Malpractice
NATO’s Bad Plan & the Ukrainian Offensive – Larry Johnson
June 17, 2023 at 3:21 pm #137108WESParticipantLife is a bowl of cherries!
Cherries are in season, so get your share!
Strawberries are in season too!
Blueberries are in season too!
The cure for scurvy!June 17, 2023 at 3:35 pm #137109Dr D RichParticipantRe: Yevgeny Prigozhin
As stated, my thesis is as you suggest apropos of something in particular
June 17, 2023 at 3:47 pm #137110John DayParticipantTesla truck looks like a DeLorean:
June 17, 2023 at 4:31 pm #137111phoenixvoiceParticipantEagles are similar in body size to chickens — but leaner, and with much larger wingspan.
June 17, 2023 at 6:20 pm #137112Dr. DParticipantThe evil in ourselves…
Now turn it around: how can people be encouraged, engineered, damaged, terrorized, into committing evil? Then we go out, put it on TV, buy school boards and officials, and do each and all of these things.
June 17, 2023 at 6:24 pm #137113OroborosParticipantPRODUCT REVIEW
June 17, 2023 at 6:27 pm #137114zerosumParticipantPath to peace
quit all communication
disconnection
Silent treatment
Social exclusion
expelled
Cherem
Herem
excommunicated
ostracism
shunningJune 17, 2023 at 6:43 pm #137115my parents said knowParticipantWES- our (sour)cherries are still a week away. We’re up to 5 trees now, hoping there’s enough for ourselves and the robins. and the chickadees. and the bluejays. and the pruning raccoon….
June 17, 2023 at 6:57 pm #137116my parents said knowParticipantDr. D- sure seems that way. TeeVee news put out a story on how easy it was to steal Kias. The following week about six were stolen with consequences (crashes, chases, a death…) one of the thieves was ten years old.
So of course they ran the story on how easy it is to steal Kias.June 17, 2023 at 8:51 pm #137117Veracious PoetParticipantNo Shame! Anything Goes! (aka We Make Sh!t Up):
June 17, 2023 at 9:10 pm #137118Veracious PoetParticipant*HARD TRUTHS* loathed & unwelcome during The Pandemic of Spiritual Insanity aka Collective EG0ic Madness aka Mass Formation Psychosis:
June 17, 2023 at 9:36 pm #137119Veracious PoetParticipant*HARD TRUTHS* to obtain Wisdom & Spiritual Sanity:
Intra portam angustam ~ Lata enim porta et spatiosa via est quae ducit ad interitum, et multi intrant.
June 17, 2023 at 10:11 pm #137121boscohorowitzParticipant“Path to peace
quit all communication
disconnection
Silent treatment
Social exclusion
expelled
Cherem
Herem
excommunicated
ostracism
shunning”I’ve pretty much experienced all the above, both on the giving and receiving end. In the end, all that works so far for me in the making of peace is to smile a lot. Especially when I don’t feel like it. Especially at people who make me want to frown.
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I mostly liked the other image/memes in VP’s sequence above, but this one stinks, imo.
I think man is least positioned of all the animals to stop the so-called selfish genes. Said genes were doing okay in breeding ever more sensitive/caring animals. Then something added hyper-brains and the capacity for symbolic language to the hominid genome, and homo depravus was born.
I like the Lao Tzu meme the best by far.
June 17, 2023 at 10:12 pm #137122boscohorowitzParticipantWES: the neighborhood I now live in Milwaukie Oregon is the birthplace of the Bing cherry variety. I live on a street named after its breeder.
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The evil without is hopelessly beyond our redemptive reach. The evil within us, we just *might*, if not redeem, at least reduce. Especially if we let it go and just love whatever’s in front of us as best we can, even if that translates into kicking the fucker senseless for spitting on your cat.Anything, ANYTHING, but standing around pointing fingers all about at BAD MEN!!! BAD MEN!!!
Shoot em or shut up, I sez, and yes I am promoting violence. I am also promoting peace. I promote both. I’m a standard issue past-modern schizoid human. We speak from both hemispheres of our mind at once.
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June 17, 2023 at 10:50 pm #137123aspnazParticipantDr D said
” Stupid is as stupid does? Maybe not the last one. Hmmm, guys who kill all Jews are…maybe…I might be reaching here…Not Jews? Because then they’d be rounding up and creating murder structures for…themselves? Don’t know what it takes to make this more obvious.
Like the people injecting white people with the death vax are not white and also do not believe they should eradicate white superiority? Your argument makes no sense in today’s world.
June 17, 2023 at 11:01 pm #137124OroborosParticipantJune 17, 2023 at 11:02 pm #137125aspnazParticipantUS billionaire Bill Gates met with China’s leader Xi Jinping in Beijing on Friday.
Gates wanting to destroy the Chinese economy and corrupt the government in the same way as he did in the USA? Sorry Bill, the Mao beat you to it. You can tell the quality of our leaders by the results: Bill and his fellow billionaires have brought the USA to its knees. He tried to kill all Africans and Indians with fake vax money making schemes, but they threw him out. Now he is going to try and destroy China, maybe he will pay them to force everybody to take his vax and let Bill run their health through the WHO. Remember he managed to put the shite Windows OS on every laptop that was made in the USA, you know, fix the competition so that nobody has any choice anymore, totally anti-competitive: the US politicians were so cheap, the CCP politicians are all billionaires already, so they will take a bit more work. The west is in the toilet because its most powerful are destroying the west, we need better quality leaders.
June 17, 2023 at 11:23 pm #137126Susmarie108ParticipantMore “Hard Truths” regarding consciousness and spirituality, with inspiration from Dr D – “the Constitution lives INSIDE US, and not out there where they’ve killed it”.
With these conversations, we find ourselves discussing the origin/source of all things. Everything exists – begins and ends on the INSIDE, and not “out there”. The distinction is critical. Recognition thereof, and the living of this understanding is life changing. It is the Way to create real and lasting LOVE/PEACE/JOY in this life.
Inward facing practices reveal pure CONSCIOUSNESS, going beyond the thought waves of the mind. Clarity and TRUTH shine forth! Be silent, sit calmly, follow the breath…and you will hear – not with your ears but with your HEART, what needs to be known.
Outward facing is a giant projection – of thought waves/mind/ideas into/onto the manifest world. When the outer projection becomes the only reality (as is the case for most folks today), people are subjected to Heaven/hell and Good/evil (the “play” of opposites) in this life. It’s a rough Constitution-killing ride out there.
When you understand that your projected world is not the ONE reality, your response to life changes. Once you get re-oriented, there is no one/nothing “out there” to point to, to blame. It frees up lots of negative energy and opens channels for opportunity/potentiality.
With devotion, TRUTH will find you.
LOVE to All Seekers.
June 17, 2023 at 11:31 pm #137127John DayParticipantBlood Of Patriots https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/blood-of-patriots
Why JFK Was Deemed a Threat to National Security Thanks Christine
June 10 was the 60th anniversary of President Kennedy’s Peace Speech at American University. Reading or listening to the speech today, it is not difficult to see why the U.S. national-security establishment deemed Kennedy to be a grave threat to national security, just as it did with certain foreign leaders, such as Prime Minister Mohammad Mossadegh of Iran, Congo leader Patrice Lumumba, Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz and, later, President Salvador Allende of Chile...
..There was no possibility whatsoever of a peaceful resolution of the forever war between the United States and Russia, U.S. oficials said. There could never be peaceful coexistence, they maintained. The war against the Russian Reds, U.S. national-security officials held, was a war to the death. That was why the Joint Chiefs of Staff recommended to Kennedy that the United States initiate a surprise nuclear attack against the Russians, a recommendation that Kennedy indignantly rejected.
Having achieved a “breakthrough” after the Cuban Missile Crisis, Kennedy had decided that he was going to lead America in an entirely different direction from that of the national-security establishment. In his Peace Speech, Kennedy threw down the gauntlet against what had now become his enemy — the national-security establishment. Kennedy essentially declared an end to the Cold War racket and announced that henceforth Russia and the United States would live in peaceful coexistence. He declared an end to to the extreme anti-Russia hostility that the national-security establishment had inculcated in the American people, and he even praised the Soviet Union.
The very next night — June 11 — Kennedy delivered a nation-wide speech expressing support for the civil-rights movement, which the national-security establishment was convinced was controlled by the Russian Reds. That’s why the FBI wiretapped Martin Luther King and used blackmail with the aim of inducing him to commit suicide.
Kennedy then followed up his words with actions. Over the fierce opposition of the Pentagon and the CIA, he negotiated the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty with the Soviets. He also ordered a pull-out of troops from Vietnam. He proposed a joint trip to the moon with the Russians, which would have meant sharing U.S. rocket technology with the Reds. On the day he was killed, he had an emissary having lunch with Fidel Castro with an intent to normalize relations with Cuba, which was anathema to the national-security establishment.
What would have happened if Kennedy had lived? The national-security establishment would have immediately become irrelevant and immaterial. They would have been left twiddling their thumbs, with nothing to do. Remember, after all, that the supposed threat from the Russian Reds was why the federal government was converted to a national-security state in the first place. Peaceful coexistence with the communist world would have meant no more justification for a national-security state. The Pentagon, the CIA, and the NSA would have been dismantled and America’s founding system of a limited-government republic would have been restored. Video: RFK Jr. Says He Must “Be Careful” The CIA Doesn’t Assassinate Him
“[JFK] learned very early on that the purpose of the CIA and the intelligence apparatus was to create a constant pipeline of new wars for them, for the military industrial complex,” Kennedy noted, adding that JFK was adamant that “it’s not the United States’ jobs to dictate what kind of governments other countries have.”
RFK Jr. continued, “in October of 1963 he heard that some of his Green Berets had been killed… and he said I want a total casualty list from Vietnam. His aide came to him and said 75 Americans have died, he said that’s too many and he signed that day a national security directive ordering all troops out of Vietnam… the first thousand over the next month and then the rest by the beginning of 1965, and um and then a month later he was killed.”Video: RFK Jr. Says He Must “Be Careful” The CIA Doesn’t Assassinate Him
June 17, 2023 at 11:32 pm #137128John DayParticipantTucker Carlson turns his acerbic eye first to his former employer – Fox News – and then to the “wannabe dictator” in The White House.
On Tuesday this week, shortly after former President Trump’s arrest, Fox News ran two video feeds (of Biden and Trump) simultaneously with the following chyron: “wannabe dictator speaks at The White House after having his political rival arrested.”Video: RFK Jr. Says He Must “Be Careful” The CIA Doesn’t Assassinate Him
House Oversight Chairman Says There Is Evidence Of $20-$30 Million Of Illegal Payments To Bidens
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/house-oversight-chairman-says-there-evidence-20-30-million-illegal-payments-bidens President Joe Biden dumbfounded an audience in Connecticut and observers everywhere when he closed a speech on Friday by declaring, “God save the queen, man.” Next, as with seemingly every conclusion of a Biden public appearance, the 80-year-old president appeared confused about where he should go next, pointing to and fro and seeking guidance from someone off-stage.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-baffles-audience-closing-speech-god-save-queen Christine sends this from Gilbert Doctorow: High point of the St Petersburg International Economic Forum: Putin on stage
Simes: “Some people are talking about Russia perhaps using tactical nuclear weapons now to re-instill in the minds of people in the West what nuclear deterrence is all about. Will Russia use these weapons?”
Putin : “The answer is No. We do not plan to use nuclear weapons in this conflict. As I have said, their use is theoretically possible only when the existence of our statehood is threatened. As for tactical weapons, I do not want to lower the threshold for use of any nuclear arms. For purposes of deterrence, there is no need to remind the West that we have a significantly bigger stockpile of tactical nuclear weapons than they do. This is, so to speak, our competitive advantage. We have made our statement by positioning nuclear weapons in Belarus. That is a clear message. We have no need to frighten the whole world.”High point of the St Petersburg International Economic Forum: Putin on stage
US Army ret. Colonel Ann Wright had a 29 year army career, and extensive diplomatic experience in numerouscountries, before resigning in protest of the second Iraq invasion.Thereis exxtensive diplomatic science on how to successfully negotiate ceasefires and armistice agreements. She presnts it here.
A History of Ceasefires & Peace in Ukraine
Forty eight ceasefires between 1946 and 1997 — while often ignored — offer guidance on how to end the killing.June 17, 2023 at 11:35 pm #137129John DayParticipantOops,wrong link to Tucker& wannabe dictator https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-carlson-joe-biden-wannabe-dictator
June 17, 2023 at 11:37 pm #137130John DayParticipantThanks Christine.This is a big development for potential middle east peace, and the negotiation of a sovereign State of Palestine.
Xi Jinping backs Palestine entry into Shanghai Cooperation Organization, as Beijing offers to Mediate Israeli-Palestinian Peace
Palestine President Mahmoud Abbas accomplished a great deal on his 4-day visit to Beijing, including a Chinese agreement to try to bring Palestine into the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, if the other members agree. Chinese President Xi Jinping and he announced on Tuesday a strategic partnership. Some months ago Foreign Minister Qin Gang expressed an interest in having China host peace talks between Israel and the Palestinians to bring their 75-year-old conflict to a just and peaceful end. China recognized Palestine as an independent state in 1988 and is one of over 80 nations in the world to have done so...
Xi … and Abbas went on to announce a strategic partnership between China and Palestine, saying, “The Chinese side is keen to seize this opportunity to enhance in a comprehensive manner friendly cooperation with the Palestinian side in various fields.” For his part, Abbas pledged to make Palestine part of China’s One Belt and Road infrastructure project for Asia.
https://www.juancole.com/2023/06/cooperation-organization-palestinian.html The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) is a Eurasian political, economic, international security and defence organization. It is the world’s largest regional organization in terms of geographic scope and population, covering approximately 60% of the area of Eurasia, 40% of the world population. Its combined GDP is around 20% of global GDP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation”The world will be different’ when the Ukraine conflict ends” – Lavrov to RT Arabic (Sergey Lavrov is a master of dry, understated humor.)
https://www.rt.com/russia/578175-lavrov-ukraine-world-order/ Poland covets western Ukraine – Putin “The Poles have their own goals, they sleep and dream of seeing the return of western Ukraine, and, apparently, they are gradually moving towards this,” the Russian leader told participants of the forum, noting that Poland has still not forgotten the genocide of its people by Ukrainian ultranationalists during World War II.
https://www.rt.com/russia/578161-putin-poland-western-ukraine/ France’s Le Pen says Crimea ‘has nothing to do’ with conflict in Ukraine
”Crimea has nothing to do with the conflict in Ukraine,” she maintained. “Residents in Crimea decided to join Russia. This position was also shared by former French Presidents Nicolas Sarkozy and Valery Giscard d’Estaing, and I stand with them, too, that this issue has nothing to do with today’s conflict in Ukraine,” emphasized Le Pen, who was incumbent French leader Emmanuel Macron’s main rival in the presidential election in 2017 as well as last year. According to the parliamentarian, “the conflict in Ukraine is related to the Minsk agreements, which do not concern Crimea.”
Le Pen underlined that she views Crimea to be a part of Russia. “I have been saying this for 10 years already, and I have not changed my mind.” She insists that “the Donbass issue should be central at talks to resolve the conflict in Ukraine.”
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