Debt Rattle May 25 2021
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May 25, 2021 at 6:20 pm #75914Polder DwellerParticipant
Dr. D wrote: what if the Vaccine is to forestall, prevent an upcoming actual bioattack? What if it’s to mark the compliant people so we can kill the unvaxxed instead of the vaxxed as appears today?
It would be a good reason why they might pull the Deagel forecast since many people might make the same correlation between drop in population and number of vaccinated and therefore decide not to get the shot. Instead, maybe a revised forecast will appear soon on Deagel with the numbers reversed pour encourager les autres i.e. anti-vaxxers.May 25, 2021 at 6:31 pm #75915Doc RobinsonParticipant
Moderna Will Seek Authorization For Teen Covid Vaccine After Trial Shows 100% Efficacy (Forbes)
The news stories about this are just parroting the very limited (and slanted) information presented in the press release from Moderna, which I’ll try to make some sense of, below.
3,732 adolescent participants ages 12 to less than 18 years were enrolled and randomized 2:1 to two 100 µg doses of mRNA-1273 or placebo. The primary endpoint of non-inferior immunogenicity versus the Phase 3 adult study comparator group was met. After two doses, no cases of COVID-19 were observed in the vaccine group using the case definition from the adult Phase 3 COVE study, compared to 4 cases in the placebo group, resulting in a vaccine efficacy of 100% starting 14 days after the second dose. Because the incidence rate of COVID-19 is lower in adolescents, a secondary case definition based on the CDC definition of COVID-19 was also evaluated to include cases presenting with milder symptoms. Using the CDC definition, which requires only one COVID-19 symptom and a nasopharyngeal (NP) swab or saliva sample positive for SARS-CoV-2 by RT-PCR, a vaccine efficacy of 93% after the first dose was observed.
Of the 3,732 adolescents,
2,488 were given the mRNA injections
1,244 were given the placebo
Using the case definition for adults (not adolescents), there were no Covid cases in the vaccinated group, and 4 cases in the placebo group. 4 cases out of 1,244 is less than one percent, actually less than a third of one percent. So the Absolute Risk Reduction for adolescents is only around a third of one percent (when using the case definition for adults).
Using the more appropriate case definition for adolescents, there were an undisclosed number of Covid infections in the vaccine group, resulting in the reported 93% efficacy after the first dose. To put this 93% efficacy into perspective, if 14 vaccinated people were infected, and 7 unvaccinated people were infected, the efficacy would be zero percent (because there are twice as many vaccinated people in the study, giving both groups an equal percentage of infections.) If we tweak this a tiny bit, and there are 13 cases in the vaccinated group (instead of 14 cases), and the same 7 cases in the unvaccinated group, the vaccine efficacy would be 93%.
So with only a couple thousand participants, a small tweaking of the numbers (using different case definitions, or test thresholds, etc.) can make the vaccine efficacy go from zero percent to 93%.May 25, 2021 at 7:06 pm #75916May 25, 2021 at 7:08 pm #75917
“Finnish firm earns US patent for Covid drug containing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine”
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/finnish_firm_earns_us_patent_for_covid_drug_containing_ivermectin_and_hydroxychloroquine/11946611May 25, 2021 at 7:11 pm #75918
@ Mr. House
Your comment #75908
I found this article very enlightening. WowMay 25, 2021 at 7:22 pm #75919Doc RobinsonParticipant
Sorry folks, I made a math error in my comment above. Please disregard the part after “To put this 93% efficacy into perspective…”May 25, 2021 at 8:20 pm #75920
Your comment #75916
Wow. I wish I had that video to present to my family and friends when they were deciding about getting the jabMay 25, 2021 at 9:06 pm #75921
מנתונים ראשונים שנאספו מבתי החולים מסתמן שיש "עודף תחלואה" של דלקת שריר הלב בקרב צעירים בגילים 30-16 לאחר מתן החיסון השני. מתוך כ-70% מהנתונים שנאספו מבתי החולים נראה כי שיעור התחלואה עומד על 1 ל-3,000 עד 6,000 מקרים@kettydor #חדשותהערב pic.twitter.com/QeljptGgvg
— כאן חדשות (@kann_news) May 25, 2021
“Preliminary data collected from hospitals indicate that there is an “excess morbidity” of myocarditis among young people aged 30-16 after the second vaccine. From about 70% of the data collected from the hospitals, it seems that the morbidity rate is 1 in 3,000 to 6,000 cases.”May 25, 2021 at 9:15 pm #75922
If the vaccine was to protect from a bio weapon, why wouldn’t that be stated to the populace? I don’t see any advantage in withholding that information.May 25, 2021 at 10:22 pm #75923ctbarnumParticipant
That Denninger quote appears to be a great summary of where we are and how we got here, but I have been unable to source the paragraph on his site. I didn’t see it in the “Stop the Death Cult” article either, which ironically can’t be found on his site now (maybe on my end I have a backdoor invasion? I don’t know). If I could kindly get the source for Denninger I would love to read the whole piece.
Something that might be of interest, CJ Hopkins has another “New Normal” article that presents a very valid comparison.May 25, 2021 at 11:02 pm #75924RototillermanParticipant
@ctbarnum: Karl has kind of split his site between the normal financial/cultural analyses on the main market-ticker.org front page, and the “nad” site of the site – I’m not sure what “nad” is short for, but you access it by clicking on the “Click for what the Media does not want Published” link under Main Navigation on the right. Look for the article under the “nad” section.
@Mr. House: any protection against a bio-weapon is going to be bio-weapon-specific, and they’re not exactly going to announce that they know in advance what the bio-weapon is going to be, are they? That would raise awkward questions.May 25, 2021 at 11:02 pm #75925
He has two sections. You’ll see on the right hand side of the page right under where is says site navigation. One section is almost all covid stuff and the other is various topics.May 25, 2021 at 11:03 pm #75926
yeah i get ya. We told these dummies to take their vaccine and they didn’t, better not question us ever again!May 25, 2021 at 11:35 pm #75927
Here is the degal forecast since it appears to be no longer available. Do they sound like the type of people who want those that blindly follow to survive?
In 2014 we published a disclaimer about the forecast. In six years the scenario has changed dramatically. This new disclaimer is meant to single out the situation from 2020 onwards. Talking about the United States and the European Union as separated entities no longer makes sense. Both are the Western block, keep printing money and will share the same fate.
After COVID we can draw two major conclusions:
The Western world success model has been built over societies with no resilience that can barely withstand any hardship, even a low intensity one. It was assumed but we got the full confirmation beyond any doubt.
The COVID crisis will be used to extend the life of this dying economic system through the so called Great Reset.
The Great Reset; like the climate change, extinction rebellion, planetary crisis, green revolution, shale oil (…) hoaxes promoted by the system; is another attempt to slow down dramatically the consumption of natural resources and therefore extend the lifetime of the current system. It can be effective for awhile but finally won’t address the bottom-line problem and will only delay the inevitable. The core ruling elites hope to stay in power which is in effect the only thing that really worries them.
The collapse of the Western financial system – and ultimately the Western civilization – has been the major driver in the forecast along with a confluence of crisis with a devastating outcome. As COVID has proven Western societies embracing multiculturalism and extreme liberalism are unable to deal with any real hardship. The Spanish flu one century ago represented the death of 40-50 million people. Today the world’s population is four times greater with air travel in full swing which is by definition a super spreader. The death casualties in today’s World would represent 160 to 200 million in relative terms but more likely 300-400 million taking into consideration the air travel factor that did not exist one century ago. So far, COVID death toll is roughly 1 million people. It is quite likely that the economic crisis due to the lockdowns will cause more deaths than the virus worldwide.
The Soviet system was less able to deliver goodies to the people than the Western one. Nevertheless Soviet society was more compact and resilient under an authoritarian regime. That in mind, the collapse of the Soviet system wiped out 10 percent of the population. The stark reality of diverse and multicultural Western societies is that a collapse will have a toll of 50 to 80 percent depending on several factors but in general terms the most diverse, multicultural, indebted and wealthy (highest standard of living) will suffer the highest toll. The only glue that keeps united such aberrant collage from falling apart is overconsumption with heavy doses of bottomless degeneracy disguised as virtue. Nevertheless the widespread censorship, hate laws and contradictory signals mean that even that glue is not working any more. Not everybody has to die migration can also play a positive role in this.
The formerly known as second and third world nations are an unknown at this point. Their fate will depend upon the decisions they take in the future. Western powers are not going to take over them as they did in the past because these countries won’t be able to control their own cities far less likely countries that are far away. If they remain tied to the former World Order they will go down along Western powers but won’t experience the brutal decline of the late because they are poorer and not diverse enough but rather quite homogenous used to deal with some sort of hardship but not precisely the one that is coming. If they switch to China they can get a chance to stabilize but will depend upon the management of their resources.
We expected this situation to unfold and actually is unfolding right now with the November election triggering a major bomb if Trump is re-elected. If Biden is elected there will very bad consequences as well. There is a lot of bad blood in the Western societies and the protests, demonstrations, rioting and looting are only the first symptoms of what is coming. However a new trend is taking place overshadowing this one.
The situation between the three great powers has changed dramatically. The only relevant achievement of the Western powers during the past decade has been the formation of a strategic alliance, both military and economic, between Russia and China. Right now the potential partnership between Russia and the European Union (EU) is dead with Russia turning definitively towards China. That was from the beginning the most likely outcome. Airbus never tried to establish a real partnership but rather a strategy to fade away the Russian aerospace industry. Actually Russia and China have formed a new alliance to build a long haul airliner. Western Europe (not to mention the United States) was never interested in the development of Russia or forming anything other than a master slave relationship with Russia providing raw materials and toeing the line of the West. It was clear then and today is a fact.
Russia has been preparing for a major war since 2008 and China has been increasing her military capabilities for the last 20 years. Today China is not a second tier power compared with the United States. Both in military and economic terms China is at the same level and in some specific areas are far ahead. In the domain of high-tech 5G has been a success in the commercial realm but the Type 055 destroyer is also another breakthrough with the US gaining a similar capability (DDG 51 Flight IIII) by mid of this decade (more likely by 2030). Nanchang, the lead ship of the Type 055 class, was commissioned amid the pandemic and lockdown in China.
Six years ago the likelihood of a major war was tiny. Since then it has grown steadily and dramatically and today is by far the most likely major event in the 2020s. The ultimate conflict can come from two ways. A conventional conflict involving at least two major powers that escalates into an open nuclear war. A second scenario is possible in the 2025-2030 timeframe. A Russian sneak first strike against the United States and its allies with the new S-500, strategic missile defenses, Yasen-M submarines, INF Zircon and Kalibr missiles and some new space asset playing the key role. The sneak first strike would involve all Russian missile strategic forces branches (bombers and ground-based missiles) at the different stages of such attack that would be strategic translation of what was seen in Syria in November 2015. There was no report that the Russian had such a capability of launching a high precision, multiple, combined arms attack at targets 2,000+ kilometers away. Western intelligence had no clue. The irony is that since the end of the Cold War the United States has been maneuvering through NATO to achieve a position to execute a first strike over Russia and now it seems that the first strike may occur but the country finished would be the United States.
Another particularity of the Western system is that its individuals have been brainwashed to the point that the majority accept their moral high ground and technological edge as a given. This has given the rise of the supremacy of the emotional arguments over the rational ones which are ignored or deprecated. That mindset can play a key role in the upcoming catastrophic events. At least in the Soviet system the silent majority of the people were aware of the fallacies they were fed up. We can see the United States claims about G5 being stolen from them by China or hypersonic technology being stolen by Russia as the evidence that the Western elites are also infected by that hubris. Over the next decade it will become obvious that the West is falling behind the Russia-China block and the malaise might grow into desperation. Going to war might seem a quick and easy solution to restore the lost hegemony to finally find them into a France 1940 moment. Back then France did not have nuclear weapons to turn a defeat into a victory. The West might try that swap because the unpleasant prospect of not being Mars and Venus but rather a bully and his dirty bitch running away in fear while the rest of the world is laughing at them.
If there is not a dramatic change of course the world is going to witness the first nuclear war. The Western block collapse may come before, during or after the war. It does not matter. A nuclear war is a game with billions of casualties and the collapse plays in the hundreds of millions.
This website is non-profit, built on spare time and we provide our information and services AS IS without further explanations and/or guarantees. We are not linked to any government. Take into account that the forecast is nothing more than a game of numbers whether flawed or correct based upon some speculative assumptions.May 25, 2021 at 11:45 pm #75928ctbarnumParticipant
Thank you for that information.
As for Deagal, maybe he got a call from upstairs to hide the vax fatalities? Lest the long term effects become questioned and increase “vaccine hesitancy.” Of course, Dr. D’s hypothesis has face validity as well.May 26, 2021 at 12:12 am #75929
@Polder Dweller, from yesterday. Two ways people can have COVID-19 twice are by having it very mildly in the nose (and testing positive), while not mounting a systemic immune response for lack of need,
and by having weak immune systems from any of the things (many) which cause that.
One way that a person who has been sick with COVID may get sick from a current vaccine is that the body is really primedto fight back hard, which is what causes the inflammatory phase of the illness, that puts people in hospitals and makes their lungs a battlefield. It’s the response that is worse than the virus.
When their own cells start releasing spike protein into their bloodstreams it is BATTLE-STATION! ALL HANDS ON DECK! for their immune system. We don’t know which cells of their bofy will be releasing these spike proteins, but we do know that the vaccines get into the bloodstream. They don’t stay in the muscle where the shot goes, so the vaccines may have entered many other organ systems, like lungs, liver and kidneys, which may be producing spike protein, and so subject to immune system attackMay 26, 2021 at 12:19 am #75930
@V.Arnold: ALL of the banana plants were killed by the Deep Freeze in February, never to return, save for one that I planted in a cold-sheltered patio-garden at the clinic here I work, a dwarf Cavendish, which came up a full 3 months after the death-blow. The banana patch is planted completely in black beans, which I will harvest dry in about 2 weeks, but I can repopulate it at some time after that when the guy who lives east of Houston has some banana pups for sale. He got hit with the same storms, but his plants were fully established. I have been in contact with him. The Nam-Wahs did about the best for him, he says, but I’d like to get some variety of survivors.
Beans are good for the soil until then.May 26, 2021 at 12:34 am #75931
@Mr House: I saw that Degal forecast last year. Plenty cheerful. A lot of it makes sense one way or another, but I really discount a Russian nuclear-sneak-attack. That’s “projection”. All the times we were at the bink of nuclear ar it as a Russian officer who decided not to push the button, famously during the Cuban missile crisis, with the nuke sub captain getting depth-charged off the coast of Cuba. He assumed armageddon was already underway, but he did not destroy the US contingent above him. There were at least 3 other incidents like that, sometimes with what looked very much like missiles coming over the North Pole during that and other, lesser crises.May 26, 2021 at 12:59 am #75932
@ John Day
Yeah, I kind of figured that was what happened…
If at first….
CheersMay 26, 2021 at 1:02 am #75933
I dont blame you, but i also never thought the authorities would like as blatantly like they have about this “pandemic”. So i’m not sure what they wouldn’t do these days to hold on to power.May 26, 2021 at 1:07 am #75934
LieMay 26, 2021 at 2:21 am #75935
The constant chatter regarding a nuclear conflagration is purposeful titilation on the part of goverment Borgs (very similar to what’s going on with Covid irrationality)….
If this were in fact to happen, it would be the galoot wack jobs in the U.S. government who would start the attack with some kind of false flag operation…
Knowing this full well, Russia, for one, has concentrated it’s weapon’s research on defensive capabilities; thus the “S” series of anti-missile systems and its hypersonic missile delivery systems to thwart the U.S. wack jobs…
But, true insanity will surely obviate any recognition of todays reality; neither Russia nor China will pull the trigger first…
Regardless; the U.S. will not survive such a scenario…the rest likely will…May 26, 2021 at 2:27 am #75936
Don’t forget UFO’s now V arnold, the truth is out there 😉May 26, 2021 at 2:54 am #75937
Don’t forget UFO’s now V arnold, the truth is out there 😉
I’m undecided about the recent release of UFO videos…
Intriguing as they are; I’m of the ‘we’ll see” school for now…
Being a life-time afficionado of Sci-Fi it is difficult not to get too excited about recent developements, but; we’ll see…May 26, 2021 at 3:50 am #75938Mister RobotoParticipant
I think if there are “aliens”, they are actually the Faerie folk of our ancestral legends. The Faeries of old were also known for traveling in flying vehicles. I highly recommend the book Passport To Magonia by Jacques F Vallee.May 26, 2021 at 4:02 am #75939WESParticipant
The Phoenix vote audit continues. The interesting thing about this vote audit is the fight being put up by the vote board of superviors against the Arizona state senate.
The Arizona state senate demanding an audit of the vote has been driven by Republican voters in Arizona.
The board of supervisors consists of both Republican party members plus dems and they are opposing the vote audit every step of the way.
This just proves that both the Republican and Democrat parties (Uniparty) oppose any vote audits. They don’t want the people to ever have any say in how things are run or who runs things.May 26, 2021 at 5:15 am #75940
File this under shocking connections worth further exploration:
Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel (now a billionaire equity shareholder) was previously CEO of bioMérieux.
bioMérieux’s founder, Alain Mérieux, is a personal friend of Xi Jinping, & he helped build the P4 lab in Wuhan.May 26, 2021 at 5:33 am #75941Figmund SreudParticipant
Here we go, … for contrast to anti-Vader’s, some Canadian pro-vaxers have the way with words:
… oh, dog help us! This bozo sports substantial flock of groupies! Doom.
F.S.May 26, 2021 at 6:20 am #75942DarkMatterParticipant
Anyone got an idea why the mania to vaccinate kids? apart from the handy cas flow that is. My feeling is it is a plan to sterilise them.
If you wanted to reduce the population without causing mass chaos then there would be no better way than to roll out a vaccine that sterilizes a lot of people. Few people are immediately harmed and the effects won’t be known for years and can later be blamed on something else like phthalates.May 26, 2021 at 6:41 pm #75994democritusParticipant
“No vaccines needed.” What do you mean? Just dab a bit of sars-cov2 on your tongue and hope you get a mild infection?May 26, 2021 at 7:13 pm #75998
The mRNA injection is a guarantee of a shorter life unless something else kills you first. Possibly take the vitamins and get the ivermectin and follow the dosing found in the comments of John Day or simply take your chances and live your life as fully as possible given that it kills less than one percent of the population
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