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    Rembrandt van Rijn Self-portrait 1629   • Germany’s Failing ‘Stored’ Nat-gas & LNG Experiment (Vilches) • Nord Stream Saboteurs Plunged EU In
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle October 16 2022]

    #118532
    Germ
    Participant
    #118533
    Germ
    Participant

    Post vax: Miscarriage rates up 50%, Fertility down 50%.

    https://rumble.com/v1o5nc2-post-vax-miscarriage-rates-up-50-fertility-down-50..html

    #118534
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Rembrandt van Rijn Self-portrait 1629

    I was truly struck by this painting…awe inspiring in its complexity/detail…
    van Rijin was blessed by the gods…

    #118535
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    …western society is captured riding a mobious strip for its reality…

    #118536
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    #118537
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Rembrandt’s an NPC!

    Another day nothing’s happened. That’s why I felt it was near 9-28, the timing was right. Yes I know rates, fastest Fed rise ever, NS2, Tesla and FANGs cut in half, nuclear exchange of words back and forth, all that. But to me, to us, on the ground, no change. No change in Europe. No change here. Same as it ever was.

    “There’s a baby in that room as well.”

    In the U.S., you have citizenship when you have enough money to hire a lawyer. …That can go to the Supreme Court. No rights, all rights are mere privileges, til then.

    “Sweden allegedly argued that its own findings are too sensitive to share even with other EU nations. All three nations also refused to grant Russia access”

    They must be Scientists. No access to the data. No engagement with the material. No second-checks by objective outsiders. This is what we always do when we’re totally innocent and have nothing to hide, when there’s no third agenda.

    Hey didn’t they say they wanted universal open search warrants and limitless wiretaps, because why would I protest unless I had something to hide? So I get the same when I request government and medical, right?

    after tycoon Elon Musk said he’s no longer willing to provide the communications for free,”

    Heebus, I would think not! But this is the new NON-Capitalist United States, where we do everything for free! He provides work on behalf of the State, the state provides zip in return.

    …Okay, so when the Pentagon foots the bill, we’re in the war, right? And above, Musk does this because his fortune was cut in half in 10 months.

    (He was getting paid. Same as WaPo gets paid by the CIA via Amazon.)

    “Elon Musk has made an abrupt U-turn”

    He U-turned the U-turn? No. He never “decided” in the first place: no ACTION was taken. That is, reporters never reported REALITY, only loose fantasy words bandied around. How about “He floated” the idea in order to get some attention from the Pentagon to pick up the bill they’ve been dragging out and milking him for because they’re broke. Once they made noises they’d stop dicking with him, he made noises he’d keep the lights on.

    …So why the reporting on Elon so different than for other people/cases? Why the “Framing”? They’ve baffled themselves, if they’d only written “he said” the way that real journalists do, THEY wouldn’t have gotten sucked in by THEIR OWN pejorative framing that Elon is mercurial. Which is fun but dead wrong. So they’re constantly reporting dead-wrong because of it. Well, what can you expect from Columbia J?

    Reminds me of this week’s Gonzalo Lira where they had on a pin-headed reporter who was determined to take the #Opposite of anything that was said. They went on it a long time, far too long, too bitterly, and astonishingly unproductive, with less information, more confusion, and more bad spirits being generated with each passing minute. But boiled down, his protestations were the mirror of the “Smart Set”, the Left, the Journalists (but I repeat myself). That is, he protested with new writhing intellectual contortions against ANY proposition of ANY objective reality. And ANY objective morality. No words had any solid meaning whatsoever, as they attempted to tamp down discussion by reaching a consensus on definition: “What is a “referendum”? What is a “Democracy”? Nope, he backed up into shrill panic, shouting over any and everyone when approached on the concept of “Reality” itself. Reason itself.

    #AntiLogos as I said, and it took quite a few hours of thinking to decipher what all his parrying and avoidance all had in common: it’s all RELIGION. The religion is nihlism, the objection to #reaility itself. And why should he learn as a journalist that 1 + 1 doesn’t always equal 2? Because that’s the wash of the whole Left. Like him, should any person take a solid stand, they will be ruthlessly attacked, cornered, de-personed, and de-jobbed. So his doing this is only the normal, average requirement of mind for average, or sub-average journalists.

    Tim Pool laments on this regularly. People say, “why do you only have MTG and Bannon as guests?” Um, because he’s asked every Leftist in creation and they all refuse? Because they would be asked direct questions in public and have no potential to weasel out of them with double-speak? Other Leftists would find fault with their response and cut them, their own allies, to pieces. Well-known because we see a new one every day coughElonMuskUkrainecough. So they know this and cannot be asked actual questions they would have to clearly answer. …A few have tried to hold Zooms so they can pretend technical difficulties and cut off their end, and I believe one actually did.

    This is what you always do when your argument is sound and you have nothing to hide: you provide no evidence, discuss with no one, never engage debate, and cut the plug whenever it’s uncomfortable. Meanwhile, the Right get interviewed as “The Token”, gets edited into dumb sound bites, yelled at, insulted, called Racist, gay hating slave-making white supremacist Nazis, is mike cut off, or interview cut off (like the Ukie thing last week) and goes “Meh.” I don’t know if that wins, but it’s constant, polite engagement with reason. It’s up to you which you prefer, which is the opposite of violence.

    “ Elon Musk Discovers Ukrainian ‘Kill List’ (RT)”

    He knows darn well, he’s just narrating to bring it to his 5 million followers.

    “groups condemned Mirotvorets for leaking data on more than 4,000 members of the media.”

    So they list people like they do for “Libs of TikTok” they suggest violence against these listed people like the Left does for “Libs of TikTok”, they then dox the home addresses of “Libs of Tiktok”, then write happy smiley faces when violence and murder succeeds against them…but they’re not promoting violence and directing a felony. DO I have that right? Now replace “Libs of TikTok” with “Supreme Court Justice” and “Sitting President” and note the DoJ and FBI haven’t the slightest interest in either the promotion, nor the crime.

    “Why is it that one tweet with a peace proposal has become a more powerful expression of Musk’s position than $80 million worth of material aid to Ukraine and numerous declarations of support?”

    Be more clear: the reason is that they are #AntiPeace. Every where, for any reason. Or were the “Wars” on poverty (the poor) drugs (the poor AND addicted) not enough of an example? The real war is on The Truth. The Truth is their only enemy.

    “How 4,000 People from Groningen Managed to Turn off the Gas Tap (NOS)”

    You’re free not to be poisoned if you can win against Exxon in a world court. …You’ll never get your real legal fees though.

    “Fiscal policy should be used to support the most vulnerable without jeopardizing inflation goals,”

    Hahahahaha. I needed a good laugh this morning. Because that $2k Covid check, replacing $40k in income, as worked out so well and didn’t cause inflation at all. #Helping!

    “[Indonesia] called for a switch to local currencies in international payments to reduce dependence on the greenback,”

    Sounds like they need some FREEDOM! Do they have oil too? It’s a go!

    “ Will Beijing Join with Russia vs the West or Keep Its Powder Dry? (Hvatkov)”

    Beijing will never do anything public or solid until long, long after it’s obvious. That’s the Eastern way.

    “referring to blocs like NATO and AUKUS, exclusive alliances designed to unite Western countries and those loyal to them, effectively cutting off everyone else.”

    Yes, WE are the Soviets. WE are building the new Iron Curtain. And as all Soviets, to keep the people IN, not the others out. Obviously we do this because we’re great and awesome, and obviously we also kill 30 million of our own citizens after, the minute we disarm them.

    “the continent will collapse, people will be in danger, and it seems that we must prepare for a protracted war,”

    If Europe collapses, which seems very likely, I wonder what he means by “war”. It’s an unrest of all against all, crime and vandalism, not field armies in formation. Or more a national guard disaster response than a tanks and Special Forces thing.

    “disinformation is defined as “false, incomplete, or misleading information that is passed, fed, or confirmed to a targeted individual, group, or country.”

    That is, the entire Western Media. And Colleges too.

    “would lead any reasonable person to understand the laptop most likely belonged to Hunter Biden.”

    Yes, but logic and reason: we don’t use those. They are the express enemy of all that is holy. The only thing that matters is ME. My side, right, or most hopefully wrong. The win is so much more delicious when it’s also wrong.

    Besides, the story is total bunk. 1) ask any computer expert. 2) he says to correlate the email encryption to the public key 3) they match 4) it’s verified. Duh. But somehow they KNOW they don’t WANT to ask, and they know already BEFORE asking. Like Covid. We know it’s false because 1) we never looked, and 2) we never will. That’s the Speed of Science!™ That’s Truthiness!™

    “Yes, They Claimed The Vaccines Would Prevent Transmission (Chung)”

    Yes, but it’s so much sweeter when we can make you do what’s wrong, and win. Win with firm proof by you hurting yourself for us, our lies, our words, our #Power, the Appeal to Authority. I OWN you. That’s textbook #Narcissism. You, now = us. I = You. I have your power, your soul, your complete control and therefore I expand from my deadly smallness.

    Better, now that they are proven all, 100%, completely wrong, neither Speed of Science™, Doctors, Journalists, Governments, Media, nor Fact Checkers will be in the slightest discredited. They will still demand “Fact Checkers” as the pillar of anti-hate social media, and the people will cheer and demand it! Yay! How Dare You?™

    So again: why bother? You can discredit deadly, murdering narcissists ten-thousand times and nothing happens. No one is saved by the exposure. No one is removed and goes to jail.

    Yes. We knew. It was O B V I O U S to anyone – using their data – within the first 3 months. Pfizer admits it on TV, in front of the EU commission and the planet. Nothing happens. I guess we know who runs things around here.

    Twitter is a Weapon, not a Business (Robert Malone)”

    Remember the Skripals and the universal media gag order on all Britain? Yes, well imagine Twitter has about 1,000 of these from every agency in every country on the planet. So THEY may not be deadly speech-denying liars (although they are), but so long as they cooperate with the fascism and anti-human-rights demands of others – anyone – then they are effectively exactly the same as Ministry of Truth, 1984, mercenary on-demand for any person at any time. The 3rd intern PR Minister from Seychelles asks Twitter to ban – outrageous example – the President of the United States – and Boom! It’s done.

    How could Twitter NOT be a weapon under these well-known conditions?

    #118538
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    With all due respect to Schopenhauer, his famously quotable observation would better read, “All truth passes through five stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second it violently opposed. Third it is Fact Checked. Fourth it is declared to be conspiracy theory. Lastly it is admitted into evidence at the War Crimes Trials.”

    When time and necessity are of the essence, however, all five stages can be satisfactorily substituted with the single stage of justifiable homicide by reason of self defense.

    #118539
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Question: What do you call a theory about conspiracy?

    Answer: A pretty good start.

    #118540
    zerosum
    Participant

    Watch Me
    All or Nothing – Big Boys Club

    Reality – world wide scarcities
    Career strategists trained on virtual war ops games with a reset button

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    Musk – “Starlink is the primary communications system of the Ukrainian army on the war front. If anyone else wants this job, please be my guest,”
    “burning” around $20 million per month on safeguarding the services from cyberattacks and jamming. “Russia is actively trying to kill Starlink.”

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    True Inflation – Cost of what doesn’t exist
    Mother earth menu

    Droughts and floods
    Food scarcities
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    Canada is first to go and help the gov. of Haiti (the people?)

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/armoured-vehicles-canada-haiti-gangs-1.6618016

    Armoured vehicles from Canada delivered to Haiti as police face off against gangs
    Armed gangs have blockaded key infrastructure, including fuel supply

    Global Affairs Canada confirmed Saturday evening that, in a joint operation, U.S. and Canadian air forces helped deliver three Mine-Resistant, Ambush-Protected (MRAP) vehicles and three commercial pattern armoured vehicles.
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    #118541
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Question: When did the term “conspiracy theory” enter the lexicon as a common pejorative?

    Answer: When the theory was the truth.

    #118542
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    If you feel that your personal sense of irony and grip on reality are strong enough to withstand frontal assault upon the very core concept of reason itself, then I recommend paying a visit to https://www.eeas.europa.eu/_en , pet project of it’s nominal boss, Josep Borrel.

    Brace yourself.

    #118543
    zerosum
    Participant

    The topic is expected to be discussed by EU foreign ministers in a meeting in Luxemburg on Monday.

    Iran’s foreign ministry has again rejected claims that it has supplied Russia with weapons “to be used in the war in Ukraine”. The comment came after Kyiv and many of its Western allies accused Moscow of using Iranian-made drones in attacks in recent weeks.

    The following topic is NOT expected to be discussed by EU foreign ministers in a meeting in Luxemburg on Monday.

    France will train up to 2,000 Ukrainian soldiers on its territory, Sebastien Lecornu, minister for the armed forces, has told Le Parisien newspaper.
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    Starlink, (Musk), is not alone
    Russia must be running out of missiles

    https://www.rt.com/russia/564743-russia-military-satellite-plesetsk/

    Russia deploys new military satellite
    An Angara-1.2 rocket has delivered a secretive military-purpose satellite into orbit
    The Russian military shared no details of the mission or technical capabilities of the satellite. A similarly secretive launch of the Angara-1.2 carrying another military satellite was conducted from Plesetsk in April.

    #118544
    zerosum
    Participant

    Here is where I looked.
    https://www.eeas.europa.eu/_en

    Fact-sheet/Infographic
    EU-Ukraine relations – factsheet ( many lies by omission)
    https://www.eeas.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Factsheet%20-%20EU%20and%20Ukraine.pdf
    The EU stands united in its unwavering
    support to Ukraine in the face of
    Russia’s unprovoked and unjustified
    aggression. The EU strongly
    condemns the illegal annexation
    of Crimea and Sevastopol by the Russian Federation and
    continues to condemn this violation of international law. The EU
    remains steadfast in its commitment to Ukraine’s sovereignty and
    territorial integrity.
    The EU has stepped up its political, humanitarian, financial support
    and military assistance to Ukraine and is imposing massive
    sanctions against the Kremlin to cripple its war machine.
    The Association Agreement (AA), including its Deep and
    Comprehensive Free Trade Area (DCFTA), signed in 2014, is
    the legal framework bringing Ukraine and the EU closer together,
    promoting deeper political ties, stronger
    economic links and respect for common
    values. Visa-free travel for Ukrainian citizens with biometric
    passports entered into force in 2017.

    #118545
    zerosum
    Participant

    ….. continued
    Since the beginning of the war, the EU has
    stepped up its immediate support to strengthen
    Ukraine’s cyber resilience with €10 million for
    equipment, software and other related support. A
    further €15 million from the €330 million package
    has been provided to support resilient digital
    transformation.

    Fact check/proof needed.
    Munk is not alone

    #118546
    kultsommer
    Participant

    “Leave the climate activists glued to the wall. Make it an interactive exhibit by allowing patrons to throw tomato sauce at them and donate the proceeds to planting trees.”
    For interactive part definitely consult Marina Abramovich.

    List of “Ten top defense Co’s” and “Elon’s Starlink saga”.
    For those who love to masturbate while reading “Atlas Shrugged”, check where the invoices are sent to for “maximum profit”. Even the Hank’s may have admitted: “Am I stupid or what?”.

    #118547
    Noirette
    Participant

    Listened to he British Funeral Director John O’ Looney, in an interview with ‘Matt’, Sept. 26, 2022 while doing housework, cooking, etc.

    1h 15 mins. Points of interest:

    > just post 30 mins. He and many others (Yeadon, etc.) are convened to a meeting with British politician Sir Graham (I presume Brady) and Sir G. is ashen and speaks of possible civil war…

    > just post 45 mins. He tells the story of a Brit. Intell officier who claims that all the young men coming into Britain from abroad are UN conscripts, trained in Antalia and W. Ukraine. States he has no idea if this is true.

    After that he details his own experience in a Brit. hospital with ‘respiratory’ disease (tested, not-covid), a very convincing and frightening account.

    https://gettr.com/streaming/p1s8oym3573

    Igor Chudov Oct. 15 newsletter explains excess deaths and lowering birth rates in the UK by the jab, with a clear relation to socio-economic status, called levels of deprivation in the UK..

    (see also link from germ above)

    https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/is-uks-depopulation-caused-by-covid

    What he does not mention as explanation(s) for death rate, it is a short article (birth rate is more complicated), I’m just adding on..

    Indigent / illegal / poor / very low income ppl are in any case little in touch with Gvmt. authorities, therefore are less subject to prop, convincing, coercion.

    Surviving on the fringes does not entail watching the BBC every night on the cosy sofa, having a beer and some microwave popcorn, lamenting the Queen’s death, etc. etc.

    Plus, poor ppl, some minorities, etc. have many reasons to be suspicious of Gvmt. diktats in the medical field, many are aware of med. experiments on them, others know they themselves or other close have been abused by the med / sanitary system.

    #118548
    Dora
    Participant

    John Campbell. High excess deaths in Australia.

    #118549
    zerosum
    Participant

    Follow the money ….
    Which banks have that kind of money on deposit/collateral/leverage to give to Ukraine.
    What is the Ukrainian collateral that will be seized because Ukraine cannot pay back because it is destroyed?

    https://www.eeas.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/Factsheet%20-%20EU%20and%20Ukraine.pdf

    So far, Team Europe has mobilised over €19 billion in financial, budget support and humanitarian assistance, with an additional up to €3 billion in macro-financial assistance under preparation €19

    And additional €2.6 billion have been made available in military assistance to Ukraine under the European Peace Facility Facility

    €7.3 billion from EU Member States in grants, loans and guarantees

    €12 billion macro-financial assistance, budget support, humanitarian and emergency support

    #118550
    greco
    Participant

    Rembrandt always struck me as a narcissist, that is, he was his own favorite subject, which is not to say that he lacked talent. He was one of my favorite artists when I was still in school. I bought a book of his pen and ink landscapes and carved my own reed pens to accurately mimic his technique. His landscapes of the Dutch countryside are my favorite works. But when back in his studio, Rembrandt loved nothing more than dress up in fancy costumes and paint his own image reflected in the mirror, looking at himself lovingly.
    According to wiki, he completed over 40 paintings, 31 etchings and 7 drawings of himself. To accomplish this, he bought some of the largest mirrors available at the time, 80 inches tall.
    Maybe he wasn’t a narcissist. According to wiki, there was in his day quite a market for paintings of famous artists. Still, if he was alive today, I picture his facebook page updated almost daily with selfies.
    Google self-portraits by rembrandt for more info and also a gallery of his selfies.

    #118551
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    @DBS
    “When did the term “conspiracy theory” enter the lexicon as a common pejorative?”
    I’d say around 1940 just as they were trying to convince Americans to get into World War 2.
    And a related question:
    What is the opposite of Conspiracy Theorist? Authority Credulitst
    You can’t have one without the other.

    #118552
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Hmmm. “High excess deaths in Australia.” Maybe an extra reason why the federal government is being urged to resume high levels of immigration, in tghe order of 200,000 per annum. Never mind that we don’t have the resources or facilities to deal with such numbers. The only way our leaders know how to keep the economy alive is by endless increases in population numbers. Such is the design of The System that the entire country could be as densely built-up as Hong Kong and it still wouldn’t be enough.

    Babylon is mad.

    #118553
    WES
    Participant

    Excess Deaths in Sweden

    Dying from a bee sting this late in the fall in Sweden is high near impossible!
    First there are no flowers left.
    Second there are no bees out because there are no flowers out.
    Clearly thecwork of a deep state bee.
    Therefore Russia did it!

    The Canadian government has an open border with the US. So if you really want to come to Canada, just cross the Mexico/US border illegally. Repeat the same at the US/Canada border. Justine will welcome you with open arms and provide you with everything you want. You will never be deported.

    #118554
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    Can anyone tell whether the word “leadership” is noun, pronoun or adjective?
    …as in leadership matters, the self-referential manner by which ‘leaders’ reference themselves and according to the psychs, a sign of The Beast or pathological narcissist.

    It’s pure entertainment when the smartest guys in room play stupid, ignorant and naive like Musk when all he’s misremembering is Zelensky et al channeling the 12th dimensional chess Nobel Peace Prize laureate Barack Obama’s Kill List.
    I meant Disposition Matrix rather than Kill List, the extra-legal mechanism employed by the apparently non-pedophile Barack Obama to kill two children, Nawar and her brother Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, 8 years old and 16 years respectively.
    As Dr. D would argue, “the world is arguably a safer place with a child killer as President rather than a sniffer of children’s hair.”
    Read for yourself:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disposition_Matrix

    Then there’s the co-opting of Albert Camus to suit one’s purpose by this The Baffler writer invoking cognitive dissonance par excellence

    On the Other Side of Despair

    “What counts is no longer respecting or sparing a mother’s suffering; what counts is securing the victory of a doctrine. And human pain is no longer an outrage, but just a figure on a bill whose dreadful total is not yet calculable.”
    Albert Camus

    #118555

    Ukraine is a nexus of corruption and “defending” it allows gobs of money to keep flowing.
    Corruption could be looked at as “financialized diplomacy”.

    #118556
    zerosum
    Participant

    Cut and pasted from comment at MoA

    It looks like Biden is ready to send a rapid force to Haiti. Russia should not send guns to Haiti. Russia should send lifejackets and boats because the US rapid force is landing to stop Haitians from leaving and going to Florida.

    There is a cholera outbreak in Haiti and Haitians need help to get to Florida. Haitians are drowing in capsizings to try to get out. Russia could work with Cuba to give Haitians sturdy boats, lifejackets, and access to Cuban jettys so they can have a safe attempt at getting to Florida. During the 6 month Marial boatlift in 1980, up to 125,000 Cubans arrived in Florida.

    It would be a new Cuban Missile Crisis for Biden because the US does not want to truly help Haiti.

    #118557
    Michael Reid
    Participant
    #118558
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    New York State Isolation Camps: Tessa Lena talks to attorney Bobbie Anne Cox

    https://rumble.com/v1o0p3e-new-york-state-isolation-camps-tessa-lena-talks-to-attorney-bobbie-anne-cox.html

    #118559
    citizenx
    Participant

    Is it true ?

    We tried to warn them- yes

    Is it true ?

    They mocked, ridiculed, humiliated, degraded, accused us… they abused us and discriminated against us, they locked us down, forced us into isolation, forced us out of our jobs and away from each other. they threatened us and took action to bankrupt us, starve us, take away our voices, they restricted our travel and our basic human rights and dignity, they forced us to wear a mask or no service, they forced us to show papers AND check others papers for admittance, they threatened to take away all health care and fine us… they threatened to imprison us and they sent us to camps. they mocked us for being “unscientific” , called us ignorant and selfish, they rolled their eyes at us and wanted us eliminated and dead, they rejoiced when unvaxxed died- they even blamed us for their vax not working, a pandemic of the unvaxed they said- yes this is all true.

    I seek what is true, I live by what is true.

    Now there is another new facet of threat and danger from the Covid Cult upon us.

    I awoke to police and fire truck sirens outside and a knocking on my door. A woman had hit mine and another’s vehicle parked on the street, narrowly missing my other vehicle. Her vehicle had spun around and was facing the opposite direction with serious damage to her and my vehicle- her head was bleeding and she was being treated my medics. The police officer in charge approached me regarding my vehicle (no longer driveable) and said-

    “here’s the deal- she got her booster two days ago and was feeling sick, she lost consciousness and passed out while driving”

    He stated this so matter of factly – like yeah of course this is what happened. I also spoke with the driver who lost consciousness, and she too stated plainly and obviously that she passed out because of the booster shot.

    Surreal and karmic come to mind, along with many other thoughts. The simplest being how can society and establishment condone these boosters?

    Is this true ?
    Side effects include blacking out, going suddenly unconscious, days of feeling sick, potentially “suddenly” dying just like suddenly passing out, potentially killing others as a result- yes this is true.

    Not only have we had to endure years of abuse from the covid cult actively forcing us to no longer have body autonomy, be force vaxxed, bankrupted, starved, imprisoned, silenced, marked, abused and ridiculed- Now we are in peril, literally and physically, from their poison cult venom that they have repeatedly injected into themselves.

    I will never forget nor will I ever forgive them for what they have done and how they have behaved. Following orders or benevolent intentions on their part can never be a reason or excuse for their choices in light of their collective cult conduct.

    I will shed tears for the collective insanity all around me, but no tears for their personal decisions that result in their own harm- especially when it harms those of us who tried to warn them. I cared enough to try and warn them- I Told You So they spit in my face and tried to kill me for doing so, and they are still a threat to my and your personal safety and well being.

    #118560
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    All the evidence points to there being another 3 weeks or so of the current madness, and then TSHTF.

    For those with money to burn, firewood in Italy is reported as being offered at 350 Euros per 1 cubic metre.

    For me, it is interesting to see that Nicosia has been turned into an unsustainable concrete jungle, dependent on fragile electricity systems -just look at all those heat pumps- and imported liquid fuels, just like practically every other city in the world afflicted with the consumerism insanity that has been incessantly promoted by the energy-illiterate globalists.

    #118561
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    Indonesia makes a good point. If local currencies are not really used outside the country then the exchange rate is easy to manipulate. Some years ago Turkey’s GDP fell 1% and the Lira then fell 15%!

    Russia’s insistence of payment in Rubles has shown what a dramatic effect it can have on a local currency, but how many countries have goods so needed that they can demand payment in their currency?

    I was wondering if China could use its trillions of dollars to buy out dollar debt from various countries and replace them with debts in the local currency, and have payments in the local currency.

    #118562

    About the Huizinge (Groningen) quake- here‘s a paper on it.
    The abstract is in Dutch, but the rest of it is in English.
    2013- weren’t people still denying that drilling was innocent of earthquake production?

    #118563
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    The power of the purse (and lies).

    #118564
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Well worth reading the entire article:

    ‘Hopelessness

    Having ditched its drunken loser Johnson, over the summer the UK Establishment wasted two months in the middle of a huge political and economic crisis allowing 80,000 mainly elderly and wealthy people to select an incompetent Prime Minister for 68.7 million people – such is UK democracy, which apparently the rest of the world, especially ‘autocrats’ in Russia and China, urgently need to learn from. Thus, as soon as Truss, the worst possible candidate for Prime Minister, had been carefully selected over the two summer months, many commentators, including myself, doubted that she could last until Christmas. It now seems that that pessimism may have been very optimistic. Some latest estimates reckon that at best she may not last until 1 November.

    Truss’ decision to increase government spending – not least to double the UK ‘Defence’ (who is attacking the UK anyway?) budget to £50 billion by 2030 – to send over £3 billion of military supplies to Kiev so far this year, to subsidise 100,000 Ukrainian ‘refugees’, and at the same time to make tax cuts for the rich (what else would you expect the Conservative Party to do?) has not been accepted by Biden, the IMF and, above all, by the markets.

    Therefore, on 14 October Truss ditched her own Minister of Finance of 38 days for his decision to carry out her own illiterate economic policy – illiterate, as precisely and prophetically described last July by Truss’ rival as Conservative Prime Minister, the former Finance Minister, Sunak. So, on 14 October, Truss appointed a new British Finance Minister, the fourth in four months, a man notorious for contributing to the destruction the UK’s abysmal Health ‘Service’ (2). He will now do exactly the opposite of everything she had promised just three weeks before and on which impossible promises the intellectually challenged elected her.

    Naturally, the hopeless Truss blames all her problems on ‘global factors’ and especially on ‘Putin’s appalling invasion of the Ukraine’. No mention of voluntary and suicidal Western sanctions at all. After all, would she want to admit to her own colossal stupidity? Here we see how Denazification and, as a result regime change, are already happening in the UK, all by themselves, just as they will in the EU and in the USA. All Russia has to do is to sit back and watch Western leaders destroying themselves and dragging down their countries with them, until their peoples rise up in revolt, as is beginning to happen all over Western Europe, and as will happen in the US (we had a presage of this at the Capitol last year) and in its other colonies. This is Denazification, though perhaps more precisely it should be called ‘Auto-Denazification’. Or perhaps it could just be called ‘Hopelessness’? Or maybe just ‘Trussification’?

    16 October 2022

    Note:

    1. A quick read of William Blum’s Killing Hope, US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II or Stephen Kinzler’s Overthrow, America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq should be enlightening here.

    2. A young friend in the UK phoned me on 14 October. He told me how after weeks and weeks of chronic pain, he was eventually diagnosed by a UK hospital doctor as having cancer. He was then told that he had six months to live, but that surgeons would not have enough time to operate, as ‘the waiting list is too long’, and was then given ‘pain-killers’ that did not work as consolation for his death-sentence. The next day, through a friend, he booked a flight to Romania. There, arriving from the airport, he was seen in a clinic at once and given an MRI scan. He was immediately informed that he had a hernia. The surgeon apologised to him that he could not operate on him the next day, but that he would have to wait until the day after. Just another example of the UK’s ‘world class’ health system….Trussification indeed.’

    On Trussification: From Decolonisation to Desperation to Hopelessness to Farce

    #118566
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    Yes, but it’s so much sweeter when we can make you do what’s wrong, and win. Win with firm proof by you hurting yourself for us, our lies, our words, our #Power, the Appeal to Authority. I OWN you. That’s textbook #Narcissism. You, now = us. I = You. I have your power, your soul, your complete control and therefore I expand from my deadly smallness.

    Which from an “entertainment” perspective includes all the dark, demented, #antilife, heinously vile “content” being created to Proselytize “we the people” (men, women, children) into the international religion of nihlism…

    To point, why would Netflix et al. create the story of Jeffrey Dahmer for “entertainment” purposes & who is the target audience of such morbid fair? Why is it #1 on Netflix? Are families busting out the popcorn and watching it en masse, along with the kiddos?

    My wife & I saw how Netflix was turning into a vehicle for sociopath dissipation & cancelled it 5 years ago, after being among it’s earliest members ~ How sick does one’s appetite have to be to relive the Dahmer horror show in living color & upvote it on IMDB for an 8.1 rating?

    This is why collapse is inevitable.

    This is why 239 pedophile teachers et al. (in the USofA) were arrested in in the first 9 months of 2022…

    The War against America is fait accompli, no amount of namby pamby optimism by the likes of Kunstler et al. (hey Jimbo, what do you think about your boy Obama now?) will come to fruition…the Tree of Liberty was torched by “we the people” & replaced with a strip mall…

    Once FDR suspended the Constitution (Rule of Law) in 1933, turned over the money printers to the Banksters & Ironmongers (fascism), throwing some pretend socialist crumbs to “we the people”, it was only a matter of time until the sociopath vacuum sucked ALL of the air (spirit) out-of-the-room (The Infinite’s children).

    The only fourth turning that is possible now will come from the BRICS, “we the people” are crestfallen chuckleheads on hospice, waiting for the coup de grâce 😐

    #118567
    Redneck
    Participant

    No doubt Indonesia would love to sell their coal and other commodities in Indo rupiah to get rid of the rubbish , I am just not sure who would want the other side of the trade.The Indo currency has been in a slide since as long as I can remember. I think when I first visited in 1974 a million rupiah cost about five hundred Au dollars , recently a million could be bought for just one hundred Au. So any country receiving Indo Rps. would be very clever if they sold it immediately for a hard currency like the US dollar Euro or Russian rubles. If you kept it for very long you are a big loser and if you do accept it and trade it for a stronger more stable currency then you also lose. This is not a currency you want to own.

    #118568
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Virtue signaling Californicate

    Third World Shithole Rainbow Dreamland


    #118569
    zerosum
    Participant
    #118570
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/news/564780-paris-protest-cost-living/
    Thousands march in Paris over cost of living
    The demonstrations took place amid rising inflation and fuel shortages

    #118571
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Take everything with a pinch of salt, but this looks massive (forgive the paid-for advertisement for gold; not the answer for most people but better than vanishing digits in computer systems)

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