Debt Rattle September 27 2021
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September 27, 2021 at 8:53 am #88247Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
M. C. Escher Symmetry Drawing 1948 • Natural Immunity Emerges As Potential Legal Challenge To Vaccine Mandates (Y!) • Lancet Covid Origins Pane
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle September 27 2021]September 27, 2021 at 9:26 am #88248choochParticipantRe: “We are all cattle now”
I wonder if IBV was a thing when chickens could socially distance.
September 27, 2021 at 9:30 am #88250GermParticipantHere in the UK, universities are segregating students based on their vaxx status.
This is from the University of Bath, one of our supposedly more prestigious academic insitutions.
“If you are not able to show the above on wristband collection you will be required to show the following upon entry each night and will be given a different coloured wristband.”
September 27, 2021 at 9:42 am #88251V. ArnoldParticipantM. C. Escher Symmetry Drawing 1948
The Escher is, of course, enchanting, but cannot disabuse the evil inhabiting every nook and cranny of today’s society…
We’re in the gravest of dangers in my 76+ orbits; but lack any meaningful dialogue showing a way out of this impending disaster…
Words are no longer even worth their effort to utter…
It must be something more…September 27, 2021 at 10:04 am #88252a kullervoParticipantMr. Assange, Mr. Snowden: if TPTB wanted them dead they would have been “deceased” a long time ago.
No, they are by far more useful to keep the “informed” subcategory of the rubes with their hairs on fire.Which government(s) fell due to the portentous Wikileaks revelations? How many corrupted officials and politicians were brought before justice? (Let that sink in.)
What the heck is Mr. Assange’s legal team doing? Fighting “The Man”?
Just another act in the three-ring circus… people need to be fed their regular entertainment fix, lest they start to think (the few who can actually think) what life is all about.
(The meaning of life? Keep The Everlasting Dissatisfaction moving on. The occasional desecration of some “sacred cows” is just one of the possible pastimes.)
September 27, 2021 at 10:10 am #88253GermParticipantBack to energy, where Raul and Nicole began this wonderful space:
A good look behind our current predicament here in the UK.
“We have two options: Manage the process to avoid the worst of the negative consequences; or attempt to maintain business as usual and face a major collapse of both the financial and the real economy. ”
September 27, 2021 at 11:16 am #88254Polder DwellerParticipantWith all our governments pushing harder and harder to get everyone jabbed, I can’t help thinking that they’re actually doing this deliberately, not to eliminate C19, but rather they’re hoping and praying that a human Marek’s disease will soon come into existence. For them, this would be a tidy solution for what to do with the free-thinkers and mavericks who steadfastly refused to be inoculated since they will either have to knuckle under and get the shot after all or be wiped out by C19+. Meantime all the sheeple will have to go for boosters forever if they’re not to succumb, too. A win-win for TPTB.
September 27, 2021 at 11:59 am #88255upstateNYerParticipantThe US obviously has some issues within our population due to our diversity. It’s in the headlines constantly as TPTB drum up division in our society to suit their needs.
That same diversity, however, is what will keep this country’s population from going the way of other countries where the vast, vast majority are vaccinated. And also lining up to vaccinate their children.
I think there’s still hope for us. I’m troubled by the use of natural immunity and religious/medical exemptions as the basis for legal fights against vaccine mandates. I understand it’s a platform for the argument, and the easiest one to fight for, but the legal fight should be based on constitutional rights. Otherwise this thing drags on for months if not years as the courts keep tossing the hot potato onto the next level and the lawyers get richer and richer.
September 27, 2021 at 12:11 pm #88257upstateNYerParticipantI agree with V Arnold: “We’re in the gravest of dangers in my 76+ orbits; but lack any meaningful dialogue showing a way out of this impending disaster…”
If anyone is a praying person, please do a whole bunch of it. Most of the world is in serious trouble right now and needs assistance, and it isn’t clear where to get it as all levels of the system are corrupt. If violence becomes the only answer, and it erupts globally as a chain event, the results could be similar to a nuclear war.
September 27, 2021 at 12:12 pm #88258GermParticipantGreat post from Denninger today.
September 27, 2021 at 12:23 pm #88259russellnblbsParticipant@Polder I think Mareks disease is unlikely because the vaccines barely work, there are vast numbers of unvaccinated people globally, and there are animal reservoirs. If the vaccines actually did what they were supposed to there might be a chance but they are so leaky and crap that the disease barely has to try to evade them.
Re Assange, well how is this at all news or surprising? Of course they want him dead. They want anyone like him dead, they can’t kill now though because it would just look silly and create a martyr. Better to just lock him up forever and hope everyone forgets about him. Surely it’s obvious to everyone by now the UK and Aus are nothing but imperial vassels with no foreign policy of their own? We get to pretend we exist s countries but we don’t really.
Funnily enough New South Wales just announced that the same restrictions will apply to vaccinated and unvaccinated from December 1st (no passports from then), which came completely out of the blue and has shocked all of us who have experiencing the constantly tightening noose from all the aus states. Who knows if they will keep their promise but perhaps change is afoot. Makes all the other states look eminently tyrannical unless they follow suit. It may just be a political powerplay to make the Labor premiers look like cruel dictators, but if they keep the promise and the other states go gung ho with apartheid, we could see a fair bit of internal migration.
September 27, 2021 at 12:53 pm #88261oxymoronParticipantUpstateNYer – regarding prayer.
We must remember however crazy it all seems within the phenomenal world of time and space, it all sits supported within the context of the infinite. Because we believe in the body as the self we have made the mistake of thinking that there are levels. Levels of illusion. There is spirit and there is a mind (supported by Spirit) and the body is the literal embodiment of the mad idea of separate states.
We even have hierarchies of illusion – my music is better than yours, my body is more important to me than yours etc.
Sometimes it is better to not know. Just trust. Trust that you are being loved by an unlimited love outside the idea of your own body. I meditate on this shit since 18 – and 50 this year and every day still enraged, still judgey, still critical. HOWEVER, I get peace from reminding myself that really – the small i is dead anyway. So are the Gates and the Schwabs.
The real Self is love. It is infinite and right now I am so pissed off I want nothing to do with it!My prayer for you is continue to think and feel all the feelings, and go through all the physical things you are going through but to just have the tiniest hint of humility that says “could i be loved by this universe?” The one tiny bit of doubt that says maybe there is another way of looking at this?
To quote from a book I study – Forgiveness is still and quietly does nothing. It merely looks, waits and judges not.
It is the closest thing to Heaven I ever get in this world and fuck it feels good when deployed.(still not getting jabbed though 😉)
September 27, 2021 at 1:00 pm #88262upstateNYerParticipantI agree with @russell. Don’t see potential for Marek’s for the reasons he mentioned. Also because [most] humans don’t live constantly packed together with barely enough room to stand or move about, which would considerably increase the potential for Marek’s.
Australia appears to have gone ’round the bend (insane). Wth is going on over there? The video germ posted yesterday of police beating the crap out of people was disturbing. I get it, those were short clips and maybe those individuals did something in advance to warrant arrest, but holy cow. Brutal attacks on the part of police.
September 27, 2021 at 1:03 pm #88263upstateNYerParticipantThank you, oxy. Feeling sad, confused, discouraged and angry lately, as if you couldn’t tell from my comments. 😉
September 27, 2021 at 1:23 pm #88264Mister RobotoParticipantFrom the “Consciousness Of Sheep” article:
We have two options: Manage the process to avoid the worst of the negative consequences; or attempt to maintain business as usual and face a major collapse of both the financial and the real economy. We may hope that clever people somewhere else will figure out how to generate future surplus energy… but we would be fools to rely on it.
This is exactly why I had that realization in the late Spring of 1994 that nothing was going to save us and that we would, in fact, do everything in our power to make denouement of our modern technological world as catastrophic as we possibly could.
September 27, 2021 at 1:25 pm #88265Dr D RichParticipantThese Psychopaths are/were operating under the color of the law and within the illusion of legitimate authority. And Pompeo, my contemporary from West Point (me Annapolis and every bit his equal if not his his better in so many ways) was leading the team. Are we to understand that their’s was righteous anger in the author’s reference to these government goons seeing “blood red” in response to Vault 7 release? Doesn’t the author understand that this “childish behavior” is not the stuff of patriotism or heroism but the most obvious manifestation of criminal insanity?
Yet, at the same time, does exposure of this psychopathological disease mindset in its collective form, ie. the murderous intent, explain what they did to Joseph Darby, Ehren Watada, Jose Padilla, Nawar al-Awlaki, Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, Congressman John Murtha and anyone like me who opposed their actions, plans and process while in Navy uniform and afterwards?
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/boston-fed-president-eric-rosengren-retire-after-ethics-issue
September 27, 2021 at 1:31 pm #88266zerosumParticipantMy comments on todays TAE
1. M. C. Escher Symmetry Drawing 1948 – I love how he explored “densest packing.”
———-2. Numbers tell the
truthlies
(If the numbers don’t agree with your opinion, then, do more studies, until they do.
———–3. Don’t be a chicken
• We Are All Cattle Now (Eugyppius)
———-4. The justice system is
justpolitical
Who’s justice will prevail?• Inside The CIA’s Secret War Plans Against Wikileaks (Y!)
• CIA Was Ready To Wage Gun Battle In London Streets Over Assange (RT)
• Mike Pompeo And The CIA’s War On WikiLeaks and Julian Assange (Gosztola)
• CIA’s Assange Abduction/Murder Plan Raises Questions For Australia (Crikey)
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5. From yesterday
“Do not forget that ideas that have been proven to work can be ‘borrowed’ and added to a new system.”Hummmm
Tribal chiefs are still around.
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6. Avoid feeling feeling sad, confused, discouraged and angry ….. don’t read TAE. 🙂———
7. Question
Does my yesterday, (the past), only exist in my imagination?
———-September 27, 2021 at 1:38 pm #88267Polder DwellerParticipantI’m not so sure that we can dismiss Marek’s so easily. To get it going we only need a large pool of jabbed separated from the unjabbed, what the rest of the world is doing doesn’t matter. We’re doing that right now in Holland which has the same population density as New Jersey but here two thirds of the population lives in the western third of the country, so it’s actually a lot worse. As you say, Russel, the shots are crap, but that’s part of the problem. Once a variant turns up which can escape the shots, it will be able to run through the jabbed population like wildfire if there are hardly any unjabbed to act as a sink and if it’s gone full “Marek’s,” it’ll rip through the unjabbed, too.
Happy to be proved wrong!
September 27, 2021 at 1:47 pm #88268zerosumParticipantDo you feel that you/opinions are being ignored?
Can our social/economic systems be saved/improved/changed, by the opinions of the bloggers, being enacted by the enforcers?September 27, 2021 at 2:03 pm #88269GermParticipantWho is Tedros?
September 27, 2021 at 2:14 pm #88270johnsteinbach1ParticipantFrom the “Consciousness Of Sheep” article:
This is a spot on analysis except for the delusion that new nukes are the solution.
September 27, 2021 at 2:24 pm #88271jsnyder62@gmail.comParticipant“Mr. Assange, Mr. Snowden: if TPTB wanted them dead they would have been “deceased” a long time ago.
No, they are by far more useful to keep the “informed” subcategory of the rubes with their hairs on fire.”Couldn’t agree more, a kullervo. Keeping Assange alive subject to this relentless torture has a far greater and long lasting in terrorem effect than killing him would have had, which would only martyr him. Meanwhile, those “fighting for Assange” make ridiculous statements that we have to free him because otherwise (hah!) we will lose our freedom of the press. How much freedom of the press do you still have if this has been going on for 10+ years? You think a court opinion is going to reverse this? By all means, free him for the humanity of it, but don’t pretend this will restore or shore up freedom of the press.
Political theater that has a clear implication for would be journalists who want to expose government wrong-doing.
September 27, 2021 at 2:46 pm #88273Mr. HouseParticipantI was more under the impression that he/she said new nukes were a stopgap measure
September 27, 2021 at 3:21 pm #88274phoenixvoiceParticipant“ Especially given that the overwhelming majority of the political world claims to support vaccinations.”
Um…seriously? Because governments, who are heavily biased towards big business, support vaccination? And there is the silent admission that in *non-political* parts of the world there are majorities that do not support Covid vaccination. Telling that it is the “political” that grants this support, not the “medical world.” Guess it’s hard to claim the support of the medical world when so many medical providers and carers refuse the jab.September 27, 2021 at 3:28 pm #88276Susmarie108ParticipantRE: Keeping Assange alive vs. killing him. There is another factor – was there not some kind of “protection plan” built by his organization, in which massive document releases would occur (across multiple fronts) should he be killed? Since this release of material has the potential to bring it ALL down, “the manipulation of the “informed” subcategory of the rubes” is their only “play” for now.
@zerosum: “7. Question: Does my yesterday, (the past), only exist in my imagination?”YES, yesterday does exist in your MIND as MEMORY, a unique and personal recording, ready for playback upon recall. And that’s the “problem/opportunity” with the PAST – the recall = reliving factor. In my view, IMAGINATION belongs to the FUTURE. Your yesterday can be brought forward when you let the dreaming/musing/contemplating/imagining begin. Living in the PAST or FUTURE is the ultimate trap.
Living/being/doing/LOVING in the PRESENT is the Way forward. PEACE is the PRESENT. Perhaps oxy and upstate can find a HOME there?
LOVE to ALL.Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti.
September 27, 2021 at 3:34 pm #88277Susmarie108ParticipantTo clarify: I believe that the “treasure trove” known as WiliLeaks has the power to destroy the narrative across ALL fronts should their data be released. TPTB are in fear of that option being unleashed.
September 27, 2021 at 3:53 pm #88278phoenixvoiceParticipantPolder Dweller “ rather they’re hoping and praying that a human Marek’s disease will soon come into existence.”
If that is the case, then getting natural immunity *now* is ideal. The problem that arises is for the next generation — only truly viable kids may be from the naturally immune, facing high mortality from Marek-like Franken-Covid or death by many cuts from the vaccine, that will surely knock them off before adulthood. Terrifying thought. I’ve seen too many unvaccinated chicks die from Marek’s disease.September 27, 2021 at 3:55 pm #88279Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterI posted the Spartacus letter here yesterday because I wanted to make sure the readers here would read it. But since last night, links to my post have been going nuts. It started out with straightlinelogic.com, and then Zero Hedge followed -where the hit count now is 327K+-. And then it wet from there. A million by now? Don’t know how much people understand of it, don’t know how much I do for that matter, but it’s great to see the curiosity. At the end of the day today, we may well have the most visited TAE post ever. And whoever Spartacus is – I suspect it’s not just one person-, kudos to you. We need you.
September 27, 2021 at 3:59 pm #88281userzeroidParticipantThank you susmarie, I do appreciate your optimism and presence. I second your sentiments – peace and blessings to all
September 27, 2021 at 4:44 pm #88283a kullervoParticipantSo these folks at Wikileaks are sitting on this “treasure trove” which “has the power to destroy the narrative across ALL fronts” in order to accomplish exactly what? To help keep corruption and malfeasance alive and kicking across all fronts? Brilliant… (Wikileaks: being an accomplice is our motto.)
September 27, 2021 at 4:49 pm #88284Mr. HouseParticipantIts funny how things have been flipped on their head. In 2020 it was the “right” arguing why things shouldn’t be closed down and how this was being blown out of proportion and blaming the “left”. Now in 2021 we have the “left” blaming the unjabbed that it is their fault we can’t go back to normal because they won’t get the jab. Saturday i was having a beer outside a brewery near me that i enjoy and was talking with a couple in their 60’s. Mentioned to them that i had “it” early august and the wife asked if i was jabbed. Told her no and she says “well i don’t see why not, its such a simple thing”, which got me thinking, to these people that is all it is. A simple thing.
September 27, 2021 at 4:51 pm #88285Mr. HouseParticipantyeah i agree with A Kullervo on this one. If he has it, and its so mind blowing he should release it period. Sitting on it to protect yourself seems rather stupid if your intentions are to get people to understand the “truth”.
September 27, 2021 at 5:12 pm #88287userzeroidParticipantMr house and a kullervo
What has wikileaks achieved thus far? How many people have been held accountable for collateral murder? How about the masses of contracts released implicating senior dems and republicans to environmental groups, oil companies, defense? What about the intelligence firm stratfor which was feeding the US government inside info on foreign government including personal information needed to blackmail and/or gain advantage in strategic negotiations in trade deals?
Nothing wikileaks has teleased has resulted in anything except that we know more about what they are doing. Without them, they would be running rings around us, the plebs. Without them, the automatic earth would have no readership. Without them we would already be matrix slaves with no way out except the needle, the bottle or the rope.
How’s that for some cynical realism?
September 27, 2021 at 5:17 pm #88288GermParticipantGo Jim!
” … the public’s trust and respect for doctors is starting to edge out even its low esteem for the politicians who assist these racketeering operations. The medical profession that took for its motto first do no harm looks increasingly like an accomplice to mass murder — suppressing effective early treatments of Covid, promoting the known iatrogenic fiascos of intubation and Remdesivir, continuing to use the discredited PCR tests, and utilizing a VAERS system with such a defective website that doctors can’t be bothered to even report harmful reactions to vaccines while the medical bureaucrats hide and game whatever data leaks through their mighty filters. Not to mention developing the Covid-19 bioweapon in the first place and then a toxic vaccine to neatly finish the job.”
September 27, 2021 at 5:21 pm #88289userzeroidParticipantExcuse me if I came across a bit spiky there – not my intention at all. I felt a bit dramatic and needed to get my point across.
Of course, it goes without saying we are allowed to have different opinions and to disagree on any matters we see fit.
Best,
Zeroid
September 27, 2021 at 5:43 pm #88291those darned kidsParticipanti live in a dumbveloped country.
September 27, 2021 at 5:45 pm #88292those darned kidsParticipantOf course, it goes without saying we are allowed to have different opinions and to disagree on any matters we see fit.
not if you’re a scientist.
September 27, 2021 at 5:47 pm #88294those darned kidsParticipantn.b. that quote is true to the discussion above. it just struck me how untrue it is becoming in the evercloser to mydoor reality.
September 27, 2021 at 6:02 pm #88295userzeroidParticipant@TDK – ha!
Yeah, when proceedings are civil we can accept and tolerate conflicting viewpoints. We have gone long past the time where this is the case regarding this ‘rona issue.
We can hardly sit and act civly when others have reduced our civil freedoms to a mere memory, using propaganda to coerce us and our families to submit to a “medical” dicktastership – all the while gaslighting us when we question the validity of facts that they themselves are presenting!
Great wordsmithery between yourself and nomanisanisland the other day btw.. Very witty stuff. I had a few chuckles reading the exchanges on Sat!
Cheers!
September 27, 2021 at 6:09 pm #88296Susmarie108ParticipantRE WikiLeaks/Assange: This is what I was remembering….
In a tweet from June of 2016, WikiLeaks called on supporters to “Protect our coming publications” before attaching a link to “WIKILEAKS INSURANCE 2016-06-03 (88 Gb encrypted)”. The resulting file was protected in such a way that it requires two keys to unlock – one that downloaders receive by default, and another that WikiLeaks keeps to themselves.
The idea was that if anything were to happen to WikiLeaks, the second key would be leaked. This protection even extends to Assange himself, as the founder The contents of the document could be anything – but they are most likely controversial. The files have been described as a “deadman’s switch”, or more commonly, as an insurance policy.
@userzeroid: “Nothing wikileaks has released has resulted in anything except that we know more about what they are doing. Without them, they would be running rings around us, the plebs. Without them, the automatic earth would have no readership. Without them we would already be matrix slaves with no way out except the needle, the bottle or the rope.” For those who are open, WikiLeaks data brings powerful facts to the table and COURAGE to those who are resisting the well-established storyline.As many here are coming to understand – waking folks from their ignorance is difficult to nearly impossible; even in the face of direct evidence/experience which contradicts their beliefs for living life. It’s not about changing them, it’s about changing/empowering YOU.
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