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    Saul Leiter 463 1956   Ronald Reagan and Mikhail Gorbachev first met in Geneva in 1985, in a summit specifically designed to allow them to discus
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    #52039
    zerosum
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    Spend 2%. Modernize. New technology. Buy USA.
    Don’t buy better stuff from the Russian, from China, from the enemy.
    Don’t do like Turkey.

    #52040
    Maxwell Quest
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    First, a couple thoughts about Elizabeth Warren: Her Guardian article looks ‘crafted’, of course, with lots of input by the DNC and a final review by HRC. It contains very little of “I’m just a player in the game” Warren’s actual core beliefs, if they exist at all. She looked ‘at home’ when she focused on financial matters years ago, but as a geopolitical performer she seems wholly inadequate and out of her league. Her touching on all the typical DNC talking point nonsense in the Guardian article should be taken as evidence.

    Also, in recent campaign incidents, when asked difficult (no-win) questions, she acted flustered, agitated and confused, almost as if there were no underlying principles at the helm… No rudder steering the ship. This lack of steel and moral courage would be disastrous in a real crisis… which we all know rarely happens once you take office.

    As for NATO, its expansion is driven by forces which now seem entirely out of our control… that banking cabal which dreams of a global Hunger Games <sup>TM</sup>, where all the world’s wealth flows into the Capital City (Wall St), while the subjugated Outer Districts suffer in poverty and violence. In this context, NATO acts as regional Storm Troopers who “keep the peace” by eliminating any dissension. Just ask the Yellow Vest protesters, who for the last year have been getting an education in how the New World Order works.

    #52041
    Dr. D
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    “Longstanding allies in Asia are doubting our reliability”

    What heavens! That sounds like a quid pro quo. Do we do favors and have favors done for us on a President’s direction?

    Waitaminit: there WAS a quid pro quo, to trade Germany for the Warsaw Pact and then they DIDN’T keep it. Make it, break it, seems like you can’t win. And about that “breach of trust in allies thing,” huh. America hasn’t kept her word since before she was born and isn’t going to now.

    I will recommit to our alliances – diplomatically, militarily and economically. I will take immediate action to rebuild our partnerships and renew American strategic and moral leadership,”

    So then she re-affirms and re-establishes empire that the (one part) of the military so arduously and expensively sacrificed. So the U.S. can –again– unify and take over the world, most particularly and especially Russia, the one true holdout.

    This is what Pelosi was saying that the world will fail if Trump wins, the world will never recover, all their plans and dreams will end. WHAT dreams, WHOSE dreams, Nancy? I’m not in on them. They MUST re-establish those alliances, they MUST get that outrageous military spending even if every citizen in the West goes hungry, and they MUST move forward and attack Russia NOW, like Hillary promised. It’s probably already too late, they needed to nuke Russia in the 90’s when they were helpless like Dick Cheney demanded, and he never forgave them for it. Ah, but poor Russia: fated to be the bad end of idiots and empires. Glad we’re not cursed with that fate. The young idiot perhaps, but not his end, rather his beginning.

    And hold on. I heard that migration was due to climate change, like every sparrow’s wings and every other raindrop that falls. Now after being responsible for the NHS and anitbiotic-resistant bacteria, Trump’s responsible for that too. Is there anything he’s NOT responsible for, in control of? According to you people, he’s the God-Emperor indeed. Their language, their perception is what give him his power. I certainly didn’t do it.

    You see from this diagnosis, based on decades of tiny data points, drip drip drip, that they MUST have war or lose all, and RIGHT NOW. That goes for both parties but Trump and the Marines have turned possibly half of the GOP now, with some on the short leash of a little black book, or rather a warehouse of tapes made in a certain Caribbean island and New Mexico ranch. That’s a strange twist of history it wasn’t the other way ‘round, but history is strange that way. Instead, turned out to be the Left to be the party of the CIA, to love and trust authority above all, to be pro-spying, pro-war, and anti-free speech. That’s because they’re throwing their little black book to the other side, and I suspect also to China and this Supra-state entity the CIA is merged with that works in MI6, in Saudi, in Ukraine, and in that little country of the east of the Mediterranean, all working together with tech billionaires to that one glorious, unified world under one government, with no more war…and no resistance.

    Now, what did I just say?

    “increased contributions to NATO”

    While typhus breaks out in Pelosi’s district and children can’t drink the water. While millions are homeless, tent camps expand every day, and 30,000 die of opioids. Yet THIS is their priority. And I ask you why. NATO? NATO what? “Operations” Where? Thousands and tens of thousands of miles away from the north Atlantic, continents away from Nebraska, Why and Why? There IS nothing but that NATO, funded by US though every last American dies, projects its military EVERYWHERE, throughout the whole PLANET, and right NOW, ten years ago when Brzezinski and Wesley Clark said. What else can she possibly be saying? NATO operations? NATO held back Stalin. He’s been dead for 60 years. The USSR has been dead for 30 years. There IS no threat, anywhere, anyone can point to, except for the very war-refugees they demand to import by the millions. Yet they, and Warren, demand we EXPAND operations. To where? To do what? The “Common Defense” against who? Are they deranged? Do they see ghosts? Genghis Khan? Napoleon? Saladin? What? Well apparently Neuromancer and F-Society, who will attack us in our dreams inside the cyberspace world of our VR Playstations. How will we ever? After that, NATO’s 10-fold budget will bomb water into Libya, bomb food into Yemen, and bomb snow into East Anglia (too late, sneak attack). Their non-carbon bombs will somehow offset the Pentagon being the largest user of Carbon on the planet, bar none, but we should expand them. Only then can we “protect ourselves”, presumably from our own psychosis and idiocy.

    To the end here, yes Russia would attack us, because we’ve surrounded her, made ourselves that big a threat, then credible Presidential candidates and the whole Ukraine State Department bragged about our intentions to destroy her immediately on national TV. But get a grip, ‘gov: Russia doesn’t have enough people to occupy RUSSIA, they can’t attack for real much less invade. It’s literally, physically, logically, logistically impossible. Which with #AntiLogos, the illogic of the world, dissuades them not a bit. Russia can literally, physically, logically, and logistically only DEFEND. That’s it, ever. So DON’T MAKE THEM DEFEND. Leave them alone for the love of Christ and everything holy if you love your mother and kittens-with-strings.

    So America, this is your time, this is your choice. Who are you? What do you stand for? Conquest and complete annihilation for no reason anyone can discern, or…something else?

    #52042
    Dr. D
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    *U.S. State Department tasked with Ukraine. e.g. Vindman, Yovanovitch, and Hill. And every think tank from the Potomac to the Bay.

    #52044
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    You ain’t gonna fix the problems of the U.S. by a vote!
    Hasn’t Trump already proved that?
    The U.S. is gone and life as you know it will continue to degrade until it can’t…
    My only question is; will the rest of the world survive the demise of the U.S.?

    #52045
    WES
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    Raul: When I read Warren’s statements, this what I read.

    I, Warren, as president, will faithfully restore all the corrupt foreign practices of the State Dept to ensure all members of Congress receive their fair share of all taxpayer money sent overseas as foreign aid that President Trump has so rudely been trying to cut.

    Any questions?

    #52046
    VietnamVet
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    The Afghan War has stated its nineteenth year. American troops are still in Syria and Iraq, and returning to Saudi Arabia. I didn’t realize until the Obama/Biden Kiev coup which restarted the Cold War that both parties are war mongers. Too many oligarchs and technocrats are dependent on military graft. The world is one mistake from global economic collapse and even a nuclear response from the looming war with non-compliant Iran. Even so, the ultimate cause of the forever wars is financialization. Wall Street and the US government rely on global trade being in dollars for income and to impose sanctions. Also, Africa’s “Big Men” and the like across the world cannot be allowed to develop safe national banking systems and move their money away from the West’s banking centers. Chaos insures offshoring of under developed world’s capital.

    To keep the money flowing democrat politicians gave rebirth to the Red Scare. Congresswoman Madeleine Dean (D-PA) said; “They don’t want to talk about a president holding up $391 million of congressionally appropriated aid to a country that is under attack, assault, and invasion by Russia. You will notice that what happens here is, it weakened their national security, it weakens our national security, because who benefited from that attempt to withhold aid, and, in fact, the withholding of aid? Putin and Putin’s Russia.” This is a Big Lie.

    Suffused with delusions, divorced from reality, robbing the lower classes to maintain their life-style, modern propaganda keeps a lid on the unrest in the current system; until it doesn’t anymore.

    #52047
    zerosum
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    I hope that all who understand (how the social/economic system has been organized by the enablers for the elites) that your circle of life think that you are crazy.
    Yep! Even my circle think I’m crazy and wrong.

    #52062
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    During his election campaign Trump promised to spend a trillion dollars to fix America’s crumbling infrastructure. A recent article suggested it would take at least 3 trillion dollars to fix America’s infrastructure. Any move to repair America seems to be strongly resisted.

    The fall of the Soviet Union is often put down to excessive military spending which drained the economy.

    Is the US on the brink of following this route?

    #52063
    Glennda
    Participant

    And to think I was considering Warren as possible candidate. She’s swallowed the DNC party line whole.

    Bernie hasn’t a chance in this time of Red scare polemics. So I guess I’ll stick to the Green Party vote with no real chance there.

    US politics is all about the corrupt Neo-liberal country we suffer under. If only CA could be it’s own country, but it too has been bought by the highest bidder.

    #52066
    lms
    Participant

    Almost all of what you say here is spot-on. As I read it, “talking” between the opposing parties is the most effective method for resolving conflicts. I apologize for over-simplifying what you have at greater length expressed so well. One would think that that common sense solution is obvious to everyone, experts and the ordinary citizen alike, but it’s mind-blowing that more talking and negotiating doesn’t get done.

    The problem with your argument arises when you say the Democrats and their forever investigations are preventing Trump from holding a conference with Putin. I’m sorry, but that is really funny. He’s the president. He can do whatever he wants, as he has demonstrated almost every day. He’s free to ignore the investigations just as he has been free to cooperate with them. But he can’t help himself. He’s unable to disengage from the attention and the spotlight.

    But even if he could rise above his twitter fits and really make an attempt to resolve any conflict, where do you get the idea that he can actually have an informed conversation with anyone about anything other than real estate and bankruptcy law?. He has demonstrated no knowledge about what is going on in the world and has no interest in using the expertise of anyone else to find out. He thinks he is the expert on everything and his idea of negotiating is my “way or the highway”. Also, unless he is reading from a script, he can only express himself through broad generalizations, slogans, and repetition. He has no capacity for the granular or nuance. We don’t want him at the negotiating table.

    #52067
    Enginer
    Participant

    Pocahontas speaks with forked tongue. Just like white man who promised Injuns land, then lied cheated and stole it back, ever expanding Westward.

    “46 % of US military families consider Russia an ally. ”
    —-https://www.voanews.com/usa/pentagon-concerned-russia-cultivating-sympathy-among-us-troops

    NATO is not our ally. It is a trap like the WW I murder of Archduke Franz Ferdinand, Imagine going to war to protect the Saudi Arabian monarchy. Or Turkey.

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