Germany’s Bad Numbers Are Great News For All Of Us

[Raúl Ilargi Meijer]

DPC St. Mary’s Canal parade, Sault Sainte Marie, MI 1905 Something’s happening in Europe that I would like to cheer and encourage at the top of my lun
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[Raleigh]

John Day – thanks for your responses. Good to know there are a few drugs that can potentially fight Ebola. I guess the quicker you get on those drugs, the better. For everyone else interested, this is a good graphic of what happens in the body (Stages of Hemorrhagic Fever). Two clicks of the “Next” button says this:

“Incubation
Lasts two to 21 days, but most often four to 10 days before symptoms suddenly appear.

Cell invasion strategy
Ebola is a filovirus, a tiny filament of proteins covering a single strand of genetic material, RNA, which carries only seven genes that code for viral reproduction and defense against the host’s immune system.
The virus binds to a cell’s surface, where it enters, surrounded by cell membrane.
Proteins coating the virus spring open the membrane, allowing virus RNA to enter the cell and begin replicating.
Exit from the cell isn’t fully understood, but virus particles seem to collect at the cell surface and protrude, exiting with perhaps a host envelope.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/health/ebola-effect-on-body/

This is a very nasty virus.

[John Day]

Thanks Raleigh,
I put in a lot of responses on yesterday’s post, pretty late, I know, and I tried to break them into topics. The link to the graph of time from exposure to symptoms is very useful. About 90% are symptomatic by 10 days.
What is very interesting is the novel twists that viruses can take.
Hantavirus is a good example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hantavirus
I worked in Chinle Az. from 1990-1992, and visited in 1993, when this weird pulmonary syndrome was killing Navajo people, and fast. I talked to my doctor friends at my hospital and the referral center.
The case was not cracked until a Medicine Man was consulted, and he said, “The mice are thirsty, they are going to the houses”.
Hantavirus, always transmitted through rodent excrement in Asia, was discovered to be excreted in the urine of thirsty mice, who were going to houses to find water in the drought. Their urine dried, aerosolized and was inhaled, suddenly killing people as their lungs became inflamed and filled with fluid.
I’ve had 28 years as a doctor, and in a lot of different settings, and I NEVER think I know all the details.
None of us should think we know about this strain of Ebola until we have a good answer about what happened in Madrid, with transmission in a very carefully prepared (not respiratory isolation, though) hospital.

[Raleigh]

Good article, Ilargi. The EU had a good run of it, didn’t they? The North benefited, but so did the South, and the elites had a field day. It’s always hard for people to cut their losses. I know, I’ve been like a deer in the headlights a few times in my life. You keep thinking that a little more time might solve the problem, but it rarely does. If the rest of the world wasn’t deflating, perhaps the Germans might have been persuaded to do a little more, but everybody’s going down, including them. As far as you’ve laid things out, Merkel really has no choice but to end it. Everyone will probably blame Germany again, but she ought to be used to it by now.

Can’t happen fast enough.

[Professorlocknload]

“The Quickening” continues to accelerate. Must agree, the sooner it’s all over, the better.

The only thing I find unsettling about it is, the French have Nukes.

[John Day]

The US Army is putting up a concertina wire perimeter and building a field-hospital in Liberia, experiencing weather and equipment-failure delays.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2782856/Is-fence-people-patients-U-S-troops-set-Ebola-field-hospital-Liberia-start-barbed-wire-perimeter.html
Also in this article is information about the cameraman with Ebola. Ashoka Mukpo is the “son” of Chogyam Trungpa, who made a big impact in the West, bringing in Tibetan Buddhism, linked to sex, drugs, rock and roll.
Scroll down for lots of pics of “Trungpa Rinpoche”. Ashoka’s “real dad”, still alive, is a physician whose heart sank when he heard his son tell of the fever.

[Raleigh]

John Day – I had only seen your post from two days ago and your first post from yesterday. Just now saw the rest. Fantastic work! I’m going to take your advice on taking 2000 – 5000 units/day of Vitamin D. Thanks.

Very interesting to read your comments re the Hantavirus from mice (knew someone who got that), especially the fact that it was the Medicine Man who provided such great information. Sometimes what is passed down from generation to generation is very important. It reminds me of the indigenous peoples in Thailand who, seeing the water just before the tsunami hit in 2004, and remembering what their ancestors had told them about water like that, brought their boats in and fled into the hills with their families and survived.

One study I just read mentioned pigs as a great host for Ebola, and the way that pigs are affected with Ebola is through their lungs and respiratory tract. This is most likely how the monkeys got infected by the piglets, aerosol transmission. I wonder how the pigs are faring in these African countries.

“Pigs are remarkably versatile animals when it comes to acquiring and transmitting infections,” said Tara Smith from the University of Iowa, who studies emerging infectious diseases and was not involved in this study. “They have been implicated in the spread of a variety of nasty zoonotic viruses: influenzas, Nipah virus, possibly Hendra virus, and now at least two types of Ebola.”

In pigs, Ebola mainly infects the lungs and airways, which makes them well-suited to spreading the virus through the air.”

https://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/33277/title/Ebola-from-Pigs-to-Monkeys/

Another study said that what’s been observed is doctors and nurses hugging people who have survived Ebola. They’re wondering if this is a good practice, especially when they’ve said that it survives in sperm for up to 7 weeks (maybe it survives elsewhere). Also, they said that some people are asymptomatic. People might assume that they can’t get it from the guy who appears perfectly healthy beside them, when, yes, they could. Maybe the person they’re hugging and shaking hands with has the disease, but they just don’t know it. Like, with Polio:

“Polio can be classified as either symptomatic or asymptomatic. About 95% of all cases display no symptoms (asymptomatic polio), and between 4% and 8% of cases display symptoms (symptomatic polio).”

And:

“Most people infected with the poliovirus have no signs of illness and are never aware they have been infected. These symptomless people carry the virus in their intestines and can “silently” spread the infection to thousands of others before the first case of polio paralysis emerges. For this reason, WHO considers a single confirmed case of polio paralysis to be evidence of an epidemic – particularly in countries where very few cases occur.”

https://www.polioeradication.org/Polioandprevention.aspx

Some people are definitely surviving Ebola just fine, they don’t get too sick and leave. I’m wondering if you think some people might be asymptomatic and could possibly pass on the disease because of the unsanitary conditions? Thanks.

[John Day]

Here is the best article I have found discussing the real knowns and unknowns of Ebola transmission, particularly among primates. A lot of chimps had to be euthanized because they were getting Ebola virus from each other in separate cages of a research facility. It appeared to be aerosol transmission.
The CDC is breaking ranks between the scientists and politicians here. It’s important.
I defer to those interviewed here. They have direct knowledge.
https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

[John Day]

Ilargi,
I am hopeful that Germany will act rationally.
Germany has the capacity to act rationally.
I like Germany. Germans are a mainly no-bullshit kind of people.
🙂

[XYZ]

To Professorlocknload

I often tend to agree with your views, but the mention of French nukes in relation to the euro crisis was beyond the pale.

XYZ

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