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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle October 17 2023 #144866
    D Benton Smith
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    speaking of metaphorical examples, check out the linked review about the just released major film, “The Creator” SciFi flick of humans vs AI/robots, wherein humans are the bad guys.

    When you grok how stupid our ruling class is you will feel a lot safer, except when you also consider the level of stupidity required to allow such idiots to rule over us in the first place. Scary.

    linked video: https://youtu.be/4Hll494p9Qc?si=XzaAn69_gj36h9Ww

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 17 2023 #144864
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    Linked here is the breaking story about a You Tube incident (yes, a measly little You Tube kerfuffle!) that may well blow up the whole bloody You Tube corporate existence as we know it.

    On top of that it is the PERFECT metaphor and example of how the world’s collaborating elites are genociding their own slave.

    Basically an extremely big, rich and criminal asshole You Tube influencer, “SSniperWolf”, got called and criticized with the TRUTH about how she (SSniperWolf is a woman) getting rich by ripping off other You Tubers. So she doxxed the critic, presumably to shut him by using her influence to terrify him into silence or possibly even get him killed by one of her 33 Million fans. So far (at least) You Tube is protecting her and not punishing her AT ALL.

    It’s microcosm of the whole world order. Get rich with crime and use the ill gotten gains to live big, commit crimes at will, and kill anyone who speaks the truth about it. Tidy and efficient. Until it blows up.

    link: https://youtu.be/rLG_-UvKIwM?si=Xt6osjtYq5GIvdhW

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2023 #144640
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    The Great Western Empire’s situation (with Israel right in there with ’em) reminds me of that old “boiling frog” allegory, but with one major difference. Israel and the others KNOW that they’re being slow-boiled. That’s why they’re stirring up all these fights, and why no one is taking them up on the offer to turn up the heat too fast. Basically the reason they don’t just jump out of the pot right now is that they’re scared shitless to go up against anybody capable of shooting back on the large scale, and nukes are of no use when there’s no centralized target to aim them at. What are they going to do, nuke radical Islamists, MAGA Trumpers and everybody else who hates the Cabal, while their own central hubs of power like DC, London and Tel Aviv are sitting ducks?

    Their fear is well founded.

    And their opponents’ understanding of the dynamics of the situation is crystal clear. They will not give the West any excuse ….. or target…… for playing the nuclear “Ace In The Hole” card that the Cabal thought would hold everyone at bay forever.

    Slow boil does the trick, until the “West” (and we all know who they are) are a small, terrified nuke-less chitlin’ of a former frog at the bottom of the pot.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2023 #144638
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    Those Israeli’s are really tough guys when they’re up against unarmed civilians, especially women, children, and non-belligerent air travelers at civilian airports in foreign countries.

    Notice how they avoided bombing the Russian military air base, even though Iran can use that one just as easily as they used to be able to use the civilian airport in Damascus that Israel just bombed without provocation or warning.

    They’re not making many friends, but they sure are influencing people.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2023 #144637
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    @JustSomeRandomer

    That South Park cartoon clip just nails it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 12 2023 #144634
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    The thing with bad people is that they think that the way to have the freedom to do whatever they want requires taking that freedom away from others. This is because the thing that they want is something that harms others (like stealing their stuff, or hurting and enslaving them) so if others had the freedom to stop that from happening then they would, indeed, stop it.

    So, from the bad guy’s point of view, it sure IS necessary to take away other people’s freedom, in order to have it for themselves, because if they didn’t then they would not be allowed to do whatever they want.

    The problem is that it is not possible to have freedom for self at same time as denying it to others. Can’t be done. It’s a logical absurdity.

    The slave master is enslaved.

    There is only one thing that a slave master is allowed to do, and he MUST do that one thing steadily and at all times. He must take away the freedom of others to do what they need and want to do, because if he allows those slaves to have the freedom to do what they need and want to do, for even an instant, then those slave will use that freedom to put an end to the slavery (and usually to the slave master along with it.)

    There is freedom for all, or for none. It’s as intractably simple as that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 11 2023 #144616
    D Benton Smith
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    Here’s the thing about dealing with people who want to cause harm to others. They have no reason to want anything else. They’ve decided what it is that they want, and wanting something else just isn’t that thing.

    What they want is to cause harm to others, so they’re going to go on wanting that until they actually do have a reason to want otherwise. And whatever that reason might be, it’s going to have to be impressive enough to move someone who has already decided to not be moved.

    To make a long explanation short, there are only two ways of accomplishing it. One of those ways is good, and the other way is bad.

    The good way is by appealing to what they want even more than they want to harm people.

    This good approach usually takes years of time , thanklessly arduous work, and endless wrangling, but on the upside it eventually benefits more people and fewer people die.

    The bad way is to make those who want to cause harm to others incapable of causing (or wanting) anything.

    The bad way should be avoided except as the absolute last resort because it is typically horrendously violent, seldom helps anyone in the long run, and very very easily turns those who use it into people who want to cause harm to others.

    Nevertheless, and only as the LAST resort, sometimes it is indeed the last resort and must be done, so do it, but for God’s sake (and your own) do not attempt it without Divine guidance, because without it that level responsibility teeters on the deadly brink of hubris, and is suicide.

    Everybody knows that we’re getting close to that moment, but nobody knows how close. I hope we use the time wisely.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 11 2023 #144595
    D Benton Smith
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    When I was a very young child and made grotesque faces to express my disapproving attitude toward various things my other would say, “Better be careful! Your face might freeze and you’ll look like that forever.”

    Klaus Schwab should have listed to his mother.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2023 #144565
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    @citizenx

    Are you unwilling to look in the mirror and accept the truth that your own Govt are mass murderers and you are a part of that by ‘going quietly along’ while pointing your fingers at others ?”

    Are you claiming that murder victims are as guilty as their killer because of their “going quietly along” with their crime by dying?

    By that logic then we are ALL guilty (and evil), equally, because none of us stopped the evil psychopaths from being evil psychopaths, and now here we all are . . . being governed by evil psychopaths. I dunno, maybe you’re right, but answer me this, how do you propose that we stop them from being evil psychopaths? I sure hope it’s not some kind of psychopathically evil method because that just leads back to the problem we started off with in the first place.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2023 #144528
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    @MyParentsSaidKnow

    When you’re not hitting the nail on the head you’re knocking the ball out of the park, and when you’re not doing one or the other you’re doing both at once. Like this time.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2023 #144522
    D Benton Smith
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    The best and most truthfully astute rant that I’ve heard so far. Take it away………..Scott Ritter : https://youtu.be/8Ti1dKRz53k?si=DeYH7CCJEGAfJUV7

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2023 #144520
    D Benton Smith
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    I just hate it when wonderfully eloquent and concise figures of speech get overused so frequently that they’re all worn out by the time that the perfect occasion to use them finally rolls around.
    Example: With friends like the USA, who needs enemies? (or substitute Israel or England in place of the USA). If friends ever deserved each other it would have to be that bunch. Makes me want to take a hot scrubbing shower just to think of the vile things they have each done under the pretense of virtue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 10 2023 #144519
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    The recently commenced war of attrition against Israel by it’s numerous friends and neighbors is going to play out like the one just field-tested in Ukraine, but maybe a little quicker this iteration because Israel has a much smaller population, far fewer brain-washed shock troops (trained from birth to be IDF in Zionist cult-camps such as Kibbutz Be’eri) . . . . and virtually no way to replace them as they and their formidable weaponry gets attritioned away by never-ending attacks that are too serious to ignore but too small to use nukes on.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 9 2023 #144515
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    @aspnaz and @citizenx

    If everyone is fairly and justly punished on an equal footing for the worst crimes of the worst people who they have failed to stop (and whose crimes they have tolerated), then the population of Earth would be zero.

    So enjoy yourself in that perfected world. Oh, Wait! I forgot. You won’t be there.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 9 2023 #144485
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    @aspnaz

    I think you are missing the point, and that the reason you’re missing it is your insistence that the entirety of a group be identified as essentially the same as the worst behaving part of the group. Thus Jews are bad because the worst Jews are really really awful, and Catholics are bad because the Pope is a Satanic pervert, and Americans are bad because Biden/Clinton/Deep State et al.

    That methodology does not hold up well under scrutiny because . . . by that method of moral reasoning . . . ethnically Palestinian Israelis are bad because of Zionists, and ethnically Russian Ukrainians are bad because of Ukrainian Nazis , and both you and I are bad because we are both ruled over by megalomaniacal Globalist Elite Monsters in our respective countries. Hell, why not take that methodology all the way to its logical conclusion and declare all men bad because of Ted Bundy, and all women bad because Hillary Clinton.

    I do apologize for letting those assholes take over my country, but couldn’t we devise a better metric for separating good guys from bad guys than our religious or genealogical heritage? It just doesn’t seem to be specific enough to be of any damn use, and it alienates the very people whose knowledge, loyalties and behaviors we wish to influence for the better.

    You’re plenty smart enough to think logically, but are apparently too bored or lazy to do the work that specificity (and real intelligence) absolutely demands.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2023 #144404
    D Benton Smith
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    If I had to guess (which I reckon I do, because my ESP is still in the shop for scheduled maintenance) I would guess that at least two thirds (and probably far more) of adults are tragi-comically unaware of the basic relationship between themselves and whatever government they find themselves presently enmeshed in.

    I say this because people are still talking and bargaining and pleading with the government as though they expected some semblance of fair, equitable, or at least rational treatment to eventually result from all of that interaction (in which they invest vast quantities of time, effort, hope and treasure).

    Well, that’s just silly!

    Governments are paid handsomely for making nothing, so how could they possibly be “fair”? The BASIC relationship between citizens and their governments is that governments sustain themselves with the stuff that OTHER people make.

    There is no magical “other source” of valuable stuff. There is just that one and only stack of stuff (goods, services, properties of every tangible and intangible description) and the simple fact is that some people produce these valuable things and other people don’t. If the one’s who DON’T nevertheless get paid, then guess what?

    That’s right! When people who make and enforce rules for a living are placed in charge of setting their own wages then you have the BASIC relationship between citizen and government that I spoke of earlier.

    It’s irrational in the extreme to expect thieves to cheat fairly. Therefore ALL interactions with government are paid for by YOU, dear citizen, and you are defrauded every single time, even those times when “justice” was served, because it wasn’t (at least not by the government). Not ever. It may have been presented well enough, theatrically speaking, to seem to have been served, but with a big enough budget all sorts of illusions are possible. Numerous examples spring to mind. Pick your favorite.

    Justice wasn’t served because it COULD NOT be, and it could not be because when government is involved only ONE of the sides foots the whole bill for BOTH sides, and disputes are settled by the side which rigged the scam in the first place.

    To enable the cheating side to determine the outcome of disputes just adds insult to injury, and by “insult” I mean insult to one’s intelligence, because only an idiot would allow a thief to preside over his own trial, and only a micro-cephalic DOLT would let a government run its own justice system or accounting department. Yet that is what we do routinely as though it made perfect sense. Day in and year out, century after millenium.

    Government ( and self-appointed Corporate Governance even worse so) is the LAST of any comparable entity which should be entrusted with the administration of law, justice or control over the people who it systematically defrauds as the only standard operating procedure that it’s any good at pulling off..

    So what am I saying here? Advocating anarchy?

    Let me ask the same question a slightly different way. Do you believe that you, personally, need to be commanded (at gunpoint, essentially) how to live your life, and if so, then who do you trust to hold the gun? Should it be the ones who want us dead, or the one’s who aren’t stopping them?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2023 #144403
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    @aspnaz

    Ouch!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 8 2023 #144383
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    @aspnaz

    I wonder, if you were made to write the word “hypocrite” on the chalkboard a thousand times, if the meaning of the word would seep through at all. I think it might. What do you think?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 6 2023 #144275
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    @Germ

    Wow – commenting/editing has gone to shit on this site since I took a break.
    What happened?

    Could you be a bit more specific? From the comment itself I don’t know whether I should feel offended, proud, or remorseful.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 5 2023 #144234
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    @CelticBiker.

    I’m sorry, biker boy, but you’re the one who said it. You reported that all of the retards in the divebar at 2:30 in the afternoon were punching the buttons on their “Jewphones”. Since you were in a divebar at 2:30 in the afternoon on a working day that pretty much proves beyond reasonable doubt that you are either a retard or seriously alcoholic, or both. So, you’re telling me that you were the only retard in there who didn’t have a jewphone? My apologies again, but you did say that EVERY retard was doing it, which …. ya know ….. would have to include you.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 5 2023 #144232
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    @aspnaz

    Wow, judge, jury and executioner. You should line up a role as judge at a Trump trial.”

    What the hell are you even talking about?
    Judge? Jury? Executioner? How do any of the words that you wrote relate to any of the words or sentences that I wrote?

    Please reread your “comment” (?) until you can make sense of it, and then kindly (or unkindly, as you prefer) please tell me what the hell you were trying to say, other than the fact that you hate me (I got that part). It’s a tough assignment, I know, but try.

    Think of me as Jewish, if that helps get you crazy enough to spit it out in language plain and simple enough that ordinary English speakers can figure it out.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 5 2023 #144220
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    @CelticBiker

    I was in a divebar today, about 230 ET the commie fema signal went off, every retard there started punchin buttons on their jewphone. “

    With the possible exception of the beer delivery man EVERYBODY in a divebar at 2:30 in the afternoon is a retard (at best), so why were you in there “punchin the buttons on your jewphone” ? This kind of behavior also raises the question about why you, of all people, have and use a “jewphone” in the first place.

    Are you one of the guys tasked with nurturing indiscriminate hatred for ALL Jews, as cover for the real criminals so that they can slip out he back door while all the murdering is going on (again!)?

    You’re not a very good toady, Celtic. Too ham fisted and monotone.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2023 #144176
    D Benton Smith
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    Oh, no, I’m still here! Why do I feel a little bit disappointed? It might have been much more interesting the other way, and come to think of it, it still may.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2023 #144174
    D Benton Smith
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    I’ll be off the interwebs for a couple of hours, or forever, as the case may be.

    Why didn’t I set up a pool for the possible outcomes of the events (and/or non-events) of this day? Coulda made a fortune!

    Anyway, tah tah for now.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2023 #144162
    D Benton Smith
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    I had a teacher in High School who was much like @aspnaz (but with a MUCH sweeter temperament), in that Archie [his name was Archie Stewart] couldn’t get past the rules of spelling, grammar and conventional syntax to grasp the underlying meaning or message of a story. For him it was all form and story, but no meaning. You could have bounced parables off his head for a lifetime to no avail. For example, he thought that Ivanhoe was about chivalry, and that the Christian Bible was about religion.

    For that matter, he thought that RELIGION was about religion, but it never occurred to him that religion itself was merely a MEANS of getting at something far more fundamental and immeasurably more important; in a word, truth.

    And, to quote more than one historical figure, “What is truth?”

    To which my answer would be, “That’s a very good question! I think it would be an enormously beneficial endeavor to actually try to find the answer.”

    Along such a path one will inevitably stumble into religion. That’s a good sign that you’re at least in potentially fruitful country. But don’t get hung up in the words, forms and textualized stories. Go for the underlying message instead.

    And yes, this endeavor has absolutely everything to do with our current predicament.

    Find the truth and the truth will set you free. And that’s the truth.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 4 2023 #144160
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    It’s almost as if a specific subset of Jews sacrifices the other set of them as a means of cloaking and survival.”

    Yeah, like the way it would look if the IMAX version of the cinematic blockbuster History Of Humankind was adapted for smaller screens and shorter attention spans, and translated with really clunky subtitles.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 3 2023 #144123
    D Benton Smith
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    The proper use of an army is not to blow one’s enemies to kingdom come. It is to conquer one’s enemies by establishing and enforcing rules on (and RULE over) their behavior.

    Those who do it well are rewarded with stable and long-lived nations, wherein those who submit to the rules can live in abidance of the aforementioned rule of law, and accepting certain limitations upon their own personal behaviors (example #1: the rule that when at all possible one should REFRAIN from shooting the criminally stupid and insane, on sight. Example #2 : the rule that authorities and other elites can shoot anyone that they want to. ).

    Those who do it poorly (or who become inattentive about who is actually running their army) wind up like we have …… blindsided and dumbstruck by wtf is happening with all of the crazy shit that is happening so fast that we are compelled to redefine what crazy even is.

    Well, what’s happening is that your enemies are running your army, your rule of law, and pretty much everything else that’s organized to any extent greater than the average Cub Scout Troop, or involves sums of money greater than the average lemonade stand.

    It has been said that ultimately there is no injustice because in the end everybody gets exactly what they deserve.

    Hard to argue against the ultimate logic of that (i.e. Judgement Day), but it does seem a bit harsh in the meantime.

    All I can say to that are a couple of small things. First is that a lot of people have got a lot riding on the bet that God is either merciful or does not even exist in the first place (that’s a VERY high stakes bet, partner), because otherwise (or maybe regardless of either case) I see hard times ahead for everyone who has been dishonest, lazy, cowardly, irresponsible or self centered.

    Secondly, I’ve noticed that the while we’re all waiting anxiously for judgment day our “day-to-day-meantime” can be made a lot less unpleasant by keeping one’s own personal lazy dishonest self-centered and irresponsible cowardice to the smallest minimum possible under admittedly difficult circumstances.

    P.S.
    I would be remiss in my responsibilities if I failed to make one final appeal to the hard core atheists in the audience. When one is betting the whole farm on something (such as you ARE now doing by betting that you will NOT be held 100% accountable for every thought word and deed of your entire existence) then it behooves those gamblers to examine the odds very very carefully. Presume nothing. Ignore nothing. Dismiss nothing. and most especially be very careful to observe your own observations and take nothing on second-hand say-so, authority or reputation. Think the whole thought all the way through to it’s inescapable end.

    Okay, I’ve done my duty. From here on out the consequences you experience are on you. I wish you Happy Consequences.

    in reply to: The 5 Stages of America #144070
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    @aspnaz

    Interesting opinion. Maybe you should ask CelticBiker if he he feels like he’s moving into more effective levels of understanding or if he’s having trouble getting past his annoyance at the Jews for being the cause of all troubles. He’ll work it out, and my advice to him was (and remains) well intended. As for you, on the other hand, I’m just curious why you keep taking runs at me so often. Have I said something that offends you? See if you can pin down just what it is exactly about what I say that you think is so mistaken. Maybe we’ll both learn something. I certainly intend to.

    in reply to: The 5 Stages of America #144051
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    @Celticbiker

    You’re stuck at anger/vengeance, which is a not a good or viable place to be or stay. If you don’t move yourself on up then the only other direction is down, and that is even less good and utterly unviable because in that direction lies true death. If you were looking for Hell and found hatred it would serve just about as well. Acceptance doesn’t mean giving up or abandoning plans and actions for a better future.. It means SEEING that which is already carved in the stone of reality. That fact or situation that “is” might be pretty damn bad, but it’s sure better than not even knowing it, but living in it anyway and with no way out because one can’t even SEE that it simply is what is.
    I suppose it’s alright to blow off a little steam in ranting about a bad actuality, but then it’s time to stop ranting and get on with the business of fixing what’s broke. Thinking and talking is your next step, so you’re sure in the right place for that.

    in reply to: The 5 Stages of America #144048
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    Just as you suspected, @Kassandra, acceptance is not the last stage. Not by a long shot. In fact, “acceptance” is just a smidgen above the halfway mark on the way to much much better states of being, and there is nothing sad or depressing about it. Acceptance (perhaps of a fact or state-of-affairs that one previously wished was not so) is nothing more nor less than recognition that something simply IS whatever it is. Another word for that is “truth” and another way of defining truth is “awareness of that which which actually exists”.

    It only feels less than joyously wonderful at times because the process of increasing awareness has not yet run the fullness of its course. If one stays that course there will indeed be plenty of joy at the end of the long slog upward, out of an existence of largely self-inflicted ignorance, obliviousness and pain, and into an existence of increasing awareness that this Universe we are privileged to occupy is of such exquisite beauty that learning the beauty is in itself a long and often arduous process of shedding lies misconceptions and irresponsibilities one challenging step at a time.

    The next step above acceptance, for example, is “Assimilation” of the just accepted fact into all of the other parts of one’s world view. In other words, how does this newly accepted truth relate to and interrelate with all of the other things one knows? Then, above Assimilation, is Integration of the freshly accepted and assimilated knowledge into one’s present and future actions.

    And so on up through the graduated stages of awareness on one’s way to whatever top God has in store for us. The scale looks something like the scale I’ve listed below (note the * items are the stages of grief first identified by Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross and David Kessler]

    Awareness
    Identity
    Consciousness
    Love
    Beauty
    Purpose
    Utility
    Understanding
    Integration
    Assimilation
    * Acceptance
    * Depression (sadness)
    * Bargaining (thinking)
    * Anger (vengeance)
    * Denial
    Overwhelm
    Anxiety
    Worry
    Dread
    Obviousness
    Oblivion

    The scale of awareness is a work in progress, and I should mention that it seems to have a distinct fractal or hologrammatic aspect to its nature, in that there are steps between each step and that these intermediary steps are themselves a repetition of the entire scale. In other words, to get from depression to acceptance involves going through the entire sequence of obliviousness (about acceptance) on up through each step until reaching awareness (of acceptance.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 30 2023 #143979
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    Turns out the collective Western Empire is basically the Fourth Reich. How did we Nazi that coming?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2023 #143923
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    Say, I just heard that New York City basement storage facilities, apartments, garages, subways, etc. are coming on to the market really cheap. All you need to claim the soggy properties and their contents is scuba gear and a BIG pump.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 29 2023 #143922
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    I can see some aspects of the war playing out for months and years, but the BASIC situation on the ground is that the cities and their satellites (down to a certain unknown size) are all command and control strongholds of the enemy. Note that the primary weapons of the enemy are ALL pretty much one aspect or another of that self-same “command and control”, which are decidedly NOT physical goods themselves, but merely command and control of goods that physically reside elsewhere. This immutable fact makes the cities and their inhabitants EXTREMELY vulnerable to siege tactics, because EVERYTHING they need comes from the outside. Their only “export” is “command and control” directives . . . which are pretty thin gruel on a cold dark night.

    Food, fuel, energy, durable goods and materials for manufacturing can be withheld (in many many many different ways!) as leverage in all transactions with the enemy which has locked itself into cities, from which they cannot safely escape.

    Truckers (and farmers, and hosts of other suppliers) could bring ANY city to the bargaining tables on its knees in less than a week. It will take some time for the supreme advantage this gives to the yokels really sinks in to minds of the negotiators of the two sides, but even the kindest and gentlest yokels will quickly discover that even the meanest and cruelest villain and moronic minion will make bigger and faster concessions when they are starving and freezing in the dark.

    It’s a good day for yokels. Holed-up despots and denizens, not so much.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 28 2023 #143868
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    @JohnDay

    I have been seeing a rumor for a couple of weeks that something very bad will happen on October 4, so find some way to disconnect your smartphone battery or put it in a Faraday cage, or be nowhere near it or other 5G devices like routers and laptops.”

    On Oct 4 the Federal Government will assume “temporary”, but preemptive, control over the cellular phone system of the United States for 30 minutes. Think of this as slipping into the pilot’s chair and laying hands on the controls of the entire system, end-to-end, for 30 minutes. The 30 minutes is merely the verification ( the “test” ) that they have indeed successfully got the whole apparatus doing what they want it to, how they want it to, and when they want it to. Months and perhaps years of work were required to wire up and program all the technical and bureaucratic stuff necessary to do that. The 30 minutes is merely confirmation that all the work actually worked.

    No more slap-dash patches, work-arounds , go-betweens and bureaucratic compromises. Just Total Control, in one set of hands, on demand.

    No need to give anyone Marburg or Chickenpox or even the sniffles, because from that moment onward, in any MODERN kind of war or hot revolution they’re pretty near as good as dead already. Imagine fighting a high tech conflict using ONLY the system designed, owned and operated by your enemy.

    Fear directs our attention to the suspicions and unknows of secret bio-electronic “maybe” threats, and AWAY from the actual coups d’état : which is the direct takeover of the entire population’s primary means of high speed-distance communications.

    So yeah, pop the old cell phone into the microwave Faraday Cage, and while you’re at it might as well go ahead and give it 15 minutes or so on the ‘High’ setting, because insofar as revolutions and uprisings are concerned) that’s about how useful the device will be after Oct 4.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2023 #143804
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    @jb-hb

    The line that each person draws is a deeply personal choice and for most of us involves much serious grappling with all of the many factors. Stating the questions outright, and clearly, seems to help.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2023 #143795
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So I guess that the most pertinent question to ask is whether each one of us as individuals is going to wait until the unacceptable consequences actually ARRIVE, or if we can some way or other stop those consequences BEFORE they land on one’s PERSONAL doorstep and we are forced by factual circumstances to decide , “Nope. That is unacceptable, and I say NO, that is not going to happen in THIS place, and especially not at THIS time.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2023 #143790
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @FigmundSrued

    That was a fascinating video, for at least two BIG reasons. First is that their financial analysis was exquisitely accurate, and their predictions just inescapable. Yup, the money world is headed for an unprecedented collision of fact vs fiction. No doubt about it, and for the reasons stated.

    But the second BIG reason (conspicuous in its absence from the conversation) was the one that gobsmacked me. Neither of these guys gave explicit voice to the fact that the crisis in money/commerce is both superseded and replicated by the crisis in spirituality and wisdom. In fact, I’m pretty sure (from listening to them closely) that the two of ’em were simply unaware of it. They actually do not see any “layers” of the onion above the materialist layer that they’re fixated on. . . . . and yet it is testimony to their intelligence that they understand the layer that they’re on pretty damned well.

    Somebody needs to inform them that the abstraction known as “wealth” has deeper meanings that are not merely far more important than “money”, but which fully explain how and why the money world got so screwed up in the first place.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2023 #143786
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I notice that New York City is suffering the consequences of being a Sanctuary City and that the gen pop in that fair Camelot are beginning to really notice what consequence feels like, and object to it strongly.

    Of course the folks to whom they are expressing those objections are the self-same criminal lunatics who the self-same gen pop voted into office quite some time ago and have tolerated from way back then all the way up until now (and will probably tolerate for a little while longer, too …… but not very much longer.)

    I also couldn’t help but notice the broadly displayed schadenfreude at their predicament, along with the unexpressed attitude (especially among the more ardent conservatives) of “Hurrah and Alleluia! You had it comin’ to ya!”

    Well, yes and no. In point of plain and incontestable fact the vast, vast, VAST majority of that gen pop have done nothing wrong in that regard except get on with their own lives for day after day, year after year, for generations,while letting other people get on with theirs in the same way. For the most part, and for most of them, their only failure has been a failure to predict consequences, and EVERYBODY has just got to know that predicting consequences is a helluva lot of thankless and time consuming HARD WORK that is very very hard to get right.

    Cut them some slack! The VAST majority of them haven’t done anything worse they you have…. truly! ….. so don’t be happy when they suffer!! Help the poor bastards. Help them with all of the mercy and good will that you better hope strangers treat you with when YOUR “unintended” consequences come back around to bite YOUR ass. And don’t think they aren’t coming around, buddy, because they sure as hell ARE.

    That civilization crashing down around your ears is YOURS. When it is all total wreckage you (me, we, all of us) are going to be right there in the middle of it. If that ain’t a consequence then will somebody kindly tell me what is?

    So let’s skip most of that “evil joy”* [see * below] and get back to work. Keep telling people what the consequences are going to be if they keep fucking up like they have been. And don’t let that mirror-mirror-on-the-wall get too far away from your field of view while you’re at it.
    * [ the etymology of the schadenfreude. The word is derived from the ancient Greek “epi” (meaning upon); “kharis” (meaning joy) and “kakos” (meaning evil)]

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2023 #143778
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The world is phenomenal, while we , on the other hand (ironic pun intentional) tend to be be more or less noumenal in our nature. This noumenal phenomenon has led to a lot of discussion and argument, but the fact remains, and so the conversation continues.

    I’m just hanging around because I reckon that having sat through the movie this long (big investment) I might as well stay for the exciting conclusion. Besides, it’s the only show in town.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 26 2023 #143742
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So glad that no one called me on getting the 2024 US election date wrong by a full calendar year. Embarrassment.

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