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Participant It’s amazing how you can lie with statistics when you don’t provide context and/or leave key information out of your false narrative.
As of July 4, the entire covid fear narrative was dying out, with cases crashing to new lows and the Big Pharma vaccine profit machine sputtering. That is when those controlling the media narrative began running the stories about the Indian variant and the imminent tragedy. As cases soared over 350,000 per day, the MSM was predicting bodies piling up in the streets They failed to give context that India has 1.4 billion people, four times the population of the U.S. On a cases per million basis, India’s surge was still 70% lower than the U.S. peak in January. And then the cases collapsed by 75% in a matter of weeks, with no mass rollout of vaccines. But they did distribute copious amounts of ivermectin. Must just be a coincidence. Everyone knows ivermectin is only for cows and horses, per the “experts” at the FDA.
With the Indian case collapse, the purveyors of fear needed to give the Indian variant a new scary name – Delta Variant. So India, with a 10% vaccination rate has seen a complete collapse in cases. Meanwhile, the UK and Israel, with some of the highest vaccination rates in the world, 64% and 60% respectively, have seen huge surges in Delta cases. It’s almost as if the vaccines have created the Delta surge...
The current all hands on deck campaign to discredit ivermectin is a sign of desperation, as they have only been able to coerce and scare just over 50% of the population to have this Big Pharma concoction injected into their bodies. With cases peaking at 155,000 per day, the desperation of Fauci and his acolytes is visible for all to see.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/jim-quinn-critically-thinking-person-might-look-delta-data-concludeJohn Day
ParticipantJulian Assange’s Warning: Humanity’s Last Stand
As the U.S. loses face in the Afghanistan debacle, a video of Julian Assange speaking in 2011 about the goal behind the U.S. invasion of Afghanistan went viral on social media...
“While the internet has brought about a revolution in our ability to educate each other, the consequent democratic explosion has shaken existing establishments to their core. Burgeoning digital super-states such as Google, Facebook and their Chinese equivalents, who are integrated with the existing order, have moved to re-establish discourse control. This is not simply a correction action. Undetectable mass social influence powered by artificial intelligence is an existential threat to humanity.” …
In the middle of 2020, the World Economic Forum (WEF) announced their plan for a better world to emerge from the COVID-19 crisis. WEF, together with the United Nations, business sectors and civil society, aims to build the foundations of the world economic system on the Internet of Things, and implementation of AI technology and robotics.
The key idea behind this initiative is transhumanism. Dubbed as Humanity +, transhumanism is a loosely-defined global intellectual movement that has developed over the last decades. With a view that humans are nothing more than complex biological machines, transhumanists aim to enhance human conditions beyond biological limitations through genetic engineering, nanotechnology and artificial intelligence.
Klaus Schwab, founder and executive chairman of WEF, in his book “The Fourth Industrial Revolution,” articulated that transhumanism is a process that brings radical change in our lifestyle, opening a new chapter in human development. He described the goal of the Great Reset as creating a post-human society through a “fusion of our physical, digital and biological identity”. (”Borg”?) …
In her interview by the Investigative Corona Committee Germany, investigative journalist Whitney Webb shed light on hidden motives of the tech companies in censoring content related to Covid-19. She talked about how Google, which is a parent company of YouTube, has investment in the AstraZeneca vaccine via Vaccitech, and ties between the U.S. government, the military and Big Tech companies.
Webb reported that mRNA technology used in vaccines such as Pfizer and Moderna was started with large investment from the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) – an agency of the U.S. Department of Defense responsible for the development of emerging technologies for use by the military. She described a push by the tech sector to remake the health care system, moving into telemedicine as a route to changing the current paradigm of medical care.
Webb talked about how companies like Google and Microsoft are now engaged in efforts to replace doctors with apps. Through the use of AI, they create “Precision Medicine”, gene edited medicine targeted to the individual. She pointed out how those developments are not made for profit but to use health care as a way to implement AI and create a technocracy...
At the beginning of 2021, Silicon Valley’s tech companies, in partnership with healthcare companies and the Commons Project Foundation that was established with support from the Rockefeller Foundation, launched the Vaccination Credential Initiative. Together, they are creating digital COVID-19 vaccination records – a global certification system that validates lab results based on their designated authorities.
Naomi Wolff, feminist author, journalist and CEO of a tech company spoke out about the danger of this “proof of vaccination” system that is designed to be used for the purpose of regulating cross-border travel and commerce. Wolff, who authored “The End of America” which outlines the 10 steps those in power can use to close down democracy, warned that this will not stop at Covid or vaccinations and that it heralds the death of liberty in the West. She emphasized that this vaccine passport is “the same platform as China’s social credit system that now enslaves 800 billion people through surveillance and facial recognition technology”
This requirement to show digital proof of one’s health status creates a two tier society, where the unvaccinated are treated as secondary citizens, barred from buying food at supermarkets, eating at restaurants and using public transportation. Around the vaccine passport, the infrastructure for the WEF’s digital economy is now being built.
In April 2021, The International Monetary Fund (IMF) Managing Director Kristalina Georgieva, who joined the initiatives of the Great Reset, stated that “vaccine policy is economic policy”. They are now preparing to roll out Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) that have the capability to control funds, monitor and trace transactions, linking them to personal IDs with a record stored in a massive database...
The monstrous force being unleashed in cyberspace begins to enslave humanity. This is exactly what Assange warned us about, when he decried how the internet has been transformed into the dangerous facilitator of totalitarianism...
Now, in this pandemic, a national security state is quickly morphing itself into a biosecurity state. Public health is weaponized by the authorities to advance their political agendas. With mainstream media fear-mongering and suppressing successful and early treatments of Covid, governments around the world uniformly engage in a global mass vaccination campaign. (There are gaps opening in the “uniformity”.)
The fight for free speech now intensifies with doctors and scientists being on the frontline of this battle. By risking jobs and professional licenses, whistleblowers inside medical institutions courageously come forward to uphold the public’s right to know...
… Cardiologist and leading medical expert Dr. Peter McCullough recently criticized the U.S. government’s efforts to force vaccination on its citizens, saying that it “will go down as one of the most deadly, one of the most injurious and costly in human history.”…
As the threat to human freedom increases, a man who gave us notice of what is now coming remains in prison, slowly dying. The Covid-19 crisis has hurt Assange immensely. Government imposed restrictions to stop the spread of the coronavirus made it difficult to hold normal court proceedings, and was used as an excuse by the UK government to deny the public access to the court. The extradition hearings took place within an almost total media blackout. Also, the lockdown in the Belmarsh prison restricted visitation from his family and made it almost impossible for Assange’s lawyers to meet their client and prepare their defense...
The struggle that we are now engaged in is not political. It is not left vs. right, or one nation against another. This is a battle of humans against the machine and it can be only won through each person’s defiance, united in solidarity with others to stand up for what it means to be human.
We have been told that we are at the Eleventh Hour. Now this is the Hour. This is humanity’s last stand and we are its only hope. If we fail to claim our own freedom, there will be no more resistance. The future of humanity depends on our uncompromising courage.John Day
ParticipantMandatory Borg Membership
https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/09/mandatory-borg-membership.htmlThe Safety of COVID-19 Vaccinations — Should We Rethink the Policy?
Background: COVID-19 vaccines have had expedited reviews without sufficient safety data. We wanted to compare risks and benefits.
Methods: We calculated the Number Needed to Vaccinate (NNTV) to prevent one death from a large Israeli field study. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions database of the Dutch National Register (Lareb) to extract the number of cases reporting severe side-effects and the number of cases reporting fatal side-effects. Results: The NNTV is between 200 and 700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer. NNTV to prevent one death is between 9,000 and 100,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. We observed strong variability in the number of Individual Case Safety Reports (ICSRs) per 100,000 vaccine doses across all EU member states. The estimate for the number of ICSRs per 100,000 vaccinations derived from the Lareb database was approximately 700. Among those, there were 16 serious ICSRs, and the number of ICSRs reporting fatal side-effects was at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. Thus, for 6 (95% CI 2–11) deaths prevented by vaccination, there were approximately 4 deaths reported to Dutch Lareb that occurred after vaccination, yielding a potential risk/benefit ratio of 2:3.
https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2d3ad957f.filesusr.com/ugd/adf864_8c97b2396c2842b3b05975bfbd8254cb.pdfTessa (Fights Robots) What Does The Word “Unv-d” Mean?
Let me get to the heart of it. My policy research over the years makes me believe that, under the guise of COVID, we are being groomed to become life-term subscribers to “in-body artificial immunity as a service”—or an attempt at it anyway…
And, and… the artificial immunity thing is not just about COVID and boosters! The manufacturers are actively working on a number of adult v-es for every real and imaginary malaise there is and isn’t (including the literal plague). And, I believe, the intense emotional barrage around the COVID shot is designed to set a psychological and legal precedent for the creation of a captive market and for enforcing a subscription to “artificial immunity as a service.” From the COVID mandate, we are likely to move on to illnesses that have been up until now considered mundane, then to real and imaginary mental health issues, etc. etc.
https://tessa.substack.com/p/unvaxxedJohn Day
Participant@Phoenix Voice, The most straightforward explanation would be a combination of COVID and “nasty summer cold” got into the group.
I can’t tell the difference between them in clinic these days without a test, but the people who already had COVID all have negative tests so far.
The only COVID repeats I have had have been on immunosuppressive drugs.
Ivermectin helped both times on one of them.John Day
ParticipantRelieved of Command. Will he be Court Martialed? Marines have esprit-de-Corps. How might other Marines react?
Marine commander fired for blasting ‘inept’ military leadership
Willing to risk 17-year career to ‘demand accountability’ for Afghanistan
A sitting Marine battalion commander was fired Friday after he slammed the “ineptitude” of U.S. military leadership over the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal.
Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller said in a video posted on YouTube after the deadly suicide attack Thursday that he was willing to risk his career and his pension — only three years from retirement — to “demand accountability” from top military brass.Marine commander fired for blasting ‘inept’ military leadership
USMC loyalty testing will be carried out at a remote location, without doctors, for Marines with existing medical exemptions for adverse reactions and other contraindications.
Biden Admin is not done putting members of U.S. armed services at risk, mandating U.S. Marines receive first dose vaccinations before WTI (Weapons Tactics Instructions) in a week, ignoring apps for exemptions that include religious and history of Myocarditis.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1431410444300955653.htmlChase Bank has canceled General Mike Flynn’s personal credit card, citing “possible reputational risk to our company.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/chase-bank-cancels-general-mike-flynns-credit-cardsAn exhaustive reference selection of COVID-19 early treatment protocols:
https://c19protocols.com/John Day
ParticipantThe Afghanistan Rout and American Glasnost, Dmitri Orlov (Russian: He went through a collapse. He recognizes the progression of conditions and events.)
The US occupation of Afghanistan was rationalized based on an entire edifice of lies. At its foundation lay the lie of Nineleven. Above it towered the lie of fighting terrorism (while training and equipping the terrorists). Somewhere along the way the lie of aiding Afghanistan’s development into a vibrant, modern democracy with gender equality and other bells and whistles was added to this already stupendous structure (while the only actual development was that of the heroin trade)…
And if you wish to be stubborn and refuse to believe the official narrative, then it becomes quite plausible to think that Nineleven was a lavish American hoax: that the three skyscrapers were mined by some Americans, that the Pentagon was hit by an American cruise missile fired by some more Americans and that Osama bin Laden was a CIA agent who made grainy videos and scratchy audiotapes to inspire America’s pet terrorists (branded Al Qaeda, later rebranded ISIS/ISIL/Daesh/Islamic Caliphate). Osama was looking forward to a comfortable retirement somewhere in friendly Pakistan—a retirement that was cut short by an attack by a group of navy seals some time after his death from kidney failure…
The plan was to have Afghani heroin ooze out all over the surrounding Eurasia by camel caravans traversing huge uninhabitable deserts, and some of this indeed happened, but it quickly turned out that there was more money to be made by airlifting it out using US military transport planes flying to Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo, which became the major heroin transshipment point. And so a lot of the heroin ended up in the US and in the EU, to a point where there are over 10 million opiate addicts in the US and deaths from opiate overdoses in the US alone amount to half a million a year and growing fast, with drug-related deaths the leading cause of death among the non-geriatrics. But it seems that these are just the opioid addicts who stand up to be counted, whereas opiate abuse is far more widespread and, judging from rapidly dropping overall life expectancy, quite severe…
This hasty retreat signals, somewhere in the deep subconscious (because the realization is too painful) the end of the something-for-nothing economy on which the US has increasingly come to depend since Nixon took the US dollar off the gold standard 50 years ago. This disease may have been slow to develop, but it is chronic, incurable and invariably fatal. The 2021 US federal budget is $6.8 trillion and the budget deficit is $3 trillion, meaning that out of every dollar spent 44 cents are printed into existence. This is a hospice care-level dosage of financial morphine.
At this point no amount of financial morphine will allow the American patient to arise from his bed, yank the IV from his arm and go and wreak even more havoc in the world, sowing fear and chaos. The fear and chaos are now right within the US itself. The $753.5 billion the US is spending on defense in 2021 is more than the next nine highest-spending countries spend combined, but it’s not enough to cause sufficient mayhem to scare the entire world into continuing to honor the US dollar in international trade or to invest in dollar-denominated assets; all that’s left is financial inertia and a bit of excitement around the world’s largest market bubble which the US federal reserve is desperately blowing.
The Afghanistan Rout and American Glasnost’Pepe Escobar has more details about the Kabul Airport Bombing:
In parallel, it’s no secret among intel circles in Eurasia that ISIS-K has become disproportionally more powerful since 2020 because of a transportation ratline from Idlib, in Syria, to eastern Afghanistan, informally known in spook talk as Daesh Airlines.
Moscow and Tehran, even at very high diplomatic levels, have squarely blamed the U.S.-U.K. axis as the key facilitators. Even the BBC reported in late 2017 on hundreds of ISIS jihadis given safe passage out of Raqqa, and out of Syria, right in front of the Americans.
The Kabul bombing took place after two very significant events.
The first one was Mujahid’s claim during an American NBC News interview earlier this week that there is “no proof” Osama bin Laden was behind 9/11 – an argument that I had already hinted was coming in this podcast the previous week.
This means the Taliban have already started a campaign to disconnect themselves from the “terrorist” label associated with 9/11. The next step may involve arguing that the execution of 9/11 was set up in Hamburg, the operational details coordinated from two apartments in New Jersey.
Nothing to do with Afghans. And everything staying within the parameters of the official narrative – but that’s another immensely complicated story...
The other significant event tied to the Kabul bombing was that it took place only one day after yet another phone call between Presidents Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping.
The Kremlin stressed the pair’s “readiness to step up efforts to combat threats of terrorism and drug trafficking coming from the territory of Afghanistan”; the “importance of establishing peace”; and “preventing the spread of instability to adjacent regions.”
And that led to the clincher: They jointly committed to “make the most of the potential” of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which was founded 20 years ago as the “Shanghai Five”, even before 9/11, to fight “terrorism, separatism and extremism.”
The SCO summit is next month in Dushanbe – when Iran, most certainly, will be admitted as a full member. The Kabul bombing offers the SCO the opportunity to forcefully step up.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/escobar-who-profits-kabul-suicide-bombingJohn Day
ParticipantThe Flimsy Evidence Behind the CDC’s Push to Vaccinate Children Thanks Marc (How about no-shots?)
The agency overcounts Covid hospitalizations and deaths and won’t consider if one shot is sufficient.
My research team at Johns Hopkins worked with the nonprofit FAIR Health to analyze approximately 48,000 children under 18 diagnosed with Covid in health-insurance data from April to August 2020. Our report found a mortality rate of zero among children without a pre-existing medical condition such as leukemia.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cdc-covid-19-coronavirus-vaccine-side-effects-hospitalization-kids-11626706868CHICAGO – A Chicago mother says a Cook County judge has taken away her parental rights after learning that she is not vaccinated against COVID-19. In what all parties agree is a very unusual and perhaps unprecedented step, a judge at Chicago’s Daley Center has stripped Rebecca Firlit of custody because she refuses to get a vaccination shot.
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/cook-county-judge-strips-mother-of-parental-rights-over-vaccination-statusTexas COVID cases topped out last week and are on the way down. Hospitalizations appear likely to peak this week or next.
We should assume that deaths will rise for 3 more weeks.
https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2020/texas-coronavirus-cases-map/John Day
ParticipantEmpire of COVID is up. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/empire-of-covid.html
That African deaths graphic is really powerful, because you can explain it to anybody in 12 seconds while they look at it. That vaults the hurdle of not knowing anything about ivermectin except he-said-she-said.
I am recommending it around. Non graphic excerpts, and you probably already saw a lot of it.This is the same thing a Malaysian study found in around March or April of 2020.
1 in 4 COVID patients hospitalized while vitamin D deficient die – Israeli study
Among those without deficiency who are hospitalized, only 3% die; patients with insufficient D are also 14 times likelier to end up in severe or critical condition, research shows
https://www.timesofisrael.com/1-in-4-hospitalized-covid-patients-who-lack-vitamin-d-die-israeli-studyFrom the birthplace of (Nobel Prize winning) ivermectin.
Chairman of Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association Declares During Surge, Time for Ivermectin is NowChairman of Tokyo Metropolitan Medical Association Declares During Surge, Time for Ivermectin is Now
Contaminant in over one million Moderna vaccine doses in Japan believed to be metal: NHK (1.63 million)
News of the contaminant could provide a fresh setback for Japan’s inoculation drive as it struggles to persuade many — particularly young people — to get vaccinated
NHK, in a report published late on Thursday, cited ministry sources as saying the particle reacted to magnets and was therefore suspected to be a metal. Moderna has described it as “particulate matter” that did not pose a safety or efficacy issue...
Another health ministry official said it would take “some time” to confirm how many shots from the contaminated batch had been administered in Japan. Kyodo News reported that at least 176,000 shots have been used based on its own tally of figures reported by municipalities.
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/contaminant-in-over-one-million-moderna-vaccine-doses-in-japan-believed-to-be-metal-nhkModerna Vaccine Halted In Okinawa After Contamination From “Black Substances”
Three days after the Japanese Ministry of Health announced that they were pulling 1.6 million doses of Moderna’s Covid-19 vaccine due to contamination in some vials that ‘reacts to magnets’ and which led to the deaths of at least two men in their 30s who died after receiving their second dose of the Moderna vaccine, two prefectures have halted or limited its use after more contaminated vials were discovered, according to Japan’s public broadcaster, NHK, and The Korea Times, citing local reports.
The move comes as the Japanese health ministry said it’s investigating the August deaths of two men who received doses from tainted Moderna batches.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/okinawa-halts-moderna-vaccine-over-contamination-black-substancesJohn Day
ParticipantThanks: my parents said know.
Also, you want as low a Kelvin and as high a CRI as you can get. Both have to do with the amount of blue light in the mix, which is the harsh component to your eyes.
A higher Kelvin just means more blue light in the mix.
A low color rendition index means that the blue is a big peak, not just a lot, but disproportionately more.
LED headlights are a good example of the worst of both of those.
Very blue and harsh, but boy are the “efficient”!John Day
ParticipantIlargi, Deflationista and those darned kids:
We don’t even talk about writing those words down.John Day
ParticipantHi Wes and Michael Reid: “Work , for the night is coming, when man’s work is o’er.”
@Oroboros: I used to be into vacuum tube audio design.
Noise and distortion perceptions are a really complex issue.John Day
ParticipantThanks to V.Arnold, Susmarie 108 and others who commented kindly about my being muted by the leader of my Buddhist meditation Sangha for saying “there are medicines that work against COVID and none of my patients has worsened after starting them”.
This is the first time this has been so overt and forceful, and it followed faux-sympathy comments for those who died from COVID “not believing it existed”, recently. Partisan. I channeled love and light energy to them during the tlk which followed, and it likely helped. I have revisited this several times in my meditations since then.
It is the secret-sauce.
@Oroboros: I mostly agree with your simile of mainstream news being like white-noise for one trying to seek information these days. One can extract useful information from fairly deep in the noise floor, even just by listening down into a mostly-noise distant radio station.
The simile improves with the substitution of “Pink Noise” for white-noise.
Pink Noise is “filtered white noise”
Ta-Da!John Day
ParticipantJanuary through June 2020 was just before delta hit the scene.
“Fully vaccinated were more likely than unvaccinated persons to be infected by variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization [..] but not by those associated with increased infectivity..”
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Participant@Susmarie 108: Glad you are on the mend, Sister!
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ParticipantFrom Yesterday’s comments:
Thanks for the kind words, Dr.D.
@My Parents said Know: The clinic officially is making COVID vaccination mandate “for the community good over the individual prerogative”. There is not actually a desire to do more than have good PR while following the narrative. Some would clearly prefer that this be unanimous, but are willing to forge ahead in political correctitude.
What hurt more deeply was being shut down and muted by my Buddhist sangha leader this morning, when I offered the factual counterpoint to the narrative (schadenfreude, “poor people died thinking COVID wasn’t real”) several were putting forth in a kind-ish sort of way, by stating that the tragedy is that there are effective treatments, that I have prescribed to over 60 people, none of whom got worse or hospitalized. I was sternly told that “This is not the place for that kind of talk and opinion”.
To say that there are treatments that work is too deeply disturbing of a political view for a medical doctor to voice in a Buddhist meditation group, when it followed the context of talking-about-poor-people-sick-and-dying-from-COVID (smugly).
Then, during the Dharma talk, I generated love and compassion into their midst (heh, heh, heh…)John Day
ParticipantPASHTUNWALI, the way of the 40 million Pashtun tribal people, is a non-hierarchical code of conduct, where nobody is a master, and nobody may be rightfully imprisoned, but there are rightful causes for killing somebody who has murdered or stolen from your family, and you must protect and feed guests within your house.
Dmitry Orlov explains the rock, upon which empires shatter their teeth, even when spending 5 times the local economy for 20 years.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2021/07/a-case-study-in-national-shame.htmlHow can the US humiliate itself more thoroughly now? Be more despicable?
Questions With New Reports That US Forces Gunned Down Civilians After Kabul Blast
A new BBC report shows eyewitnesses at the scene of the deadly Kabul airport explosion on Thursday saying that a significant number of the 170 Afghans killed in the attack actually died from gunfire by the US-led alliance in the chaos following the blast.Questions With New Reports That US Forces Gunned Down Civilians After Kabul Blast
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ParticipantComparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections
Results SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1US COVID-19 Vaccines Proven to Cause More Harm than Good Based on Pivotal Clinical Trial Data Analyzed Using the Proper Scientific Endpoint, “All Cause Severe Morbidity”
https://www.scivisionpub.com/abstract-display.php?id=1811American, Canadian and Chinese labs were all working with variants of the same weaponized coronavirus strains.
Canadian fingerprints found, and some bodies.
WasThe Origin Of COVID From A Canadian Lab?
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/medicine/was-the-origin-of-covid-from-a-canadian-lab/Remember the high intensity magnets sticking to some people’s vaccination sites, but not others, a couple of months ago.?
Japan unblinded that experiment and stuck magnets to vials of Moderna vaccine.
What’s in there? 1.6 million vials recalled?
Go JAPAN!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/japan-withdraws-16-million-moderna-doses-over-contaminant-reacts-magnetsJohn Day
ParticipantIt’s an unusual Saturday because we gathered for a family meeting to discuss plans and contingencies in the next few months. If the blame-the-unvaccinated narrative holds, it will be pretty wicked, and I will be fired, but it will be much more wicked than my patients losing my services.
https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/weakening-evil.htmlThe biggest weakness of TPTB is their cobbled-together narrative, which requires as much constant support as the New York Stock Exchange these days.
I have concluded from early February 2020 that the weapon leaked from Fort Detrick, Maryland in early June 2019:
https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/fort-detrick.html
That is sort of by-the-way, but it sets a timeline for Event 201 in mid October, where governments of the world war-gameda coronavirus pandemic. At that same moment, the US military was attending the Wuhan Games, the first military olympics attended by the US military. Numerous players could not compete, due to a mysterious viral pneumonia that hospitalized some of them.Another consideration is that this was a SNAFU, not a planned release. there may well have been weaponized releases, such as the COVID pandemic hit Iran at that big funeral for (US assassinated) General Soleimani on January 7, 2020, but I don’t know.
The implication is that this narrative is thrown together on the fly, making it more fragile. Monitoring social media with AI lets the narrative turn on a dime, and amplify “favorable” fear trends, but there are some turns it won’t be able to negotiate. I think we are entering one.
Efforts applied earlier can be more effective. The earlier we call the vaccines making people sicker, the more minds will be lightly primed to notice it before some cover-up can be confabulated.It’s not that the current narrative is void of truth, but that it may be exactly wrong, that can be a wake-up call.
This is not 100% certain to me. There is a specific mode of antibody dependent enhancement (ADE) of viral pathogenicity described here: https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/vaccines-help-delta.html
A support of this hypothesis is provided, in Israeli cases going up, up , up, and UK cases and hospitalizations and deaths ramping up among the vaccinated, more than among the unvaccinated recently.
Several trends in viral evolution to exploit host weaknesses are present. Some hosts are vaccinated with January 2020 alpha-COVID spike protein antibodies. Those are both (good) “Blocking antibodies” and (bad) “Enhancing antibodies”. There is a mixed cloud of helping, suppressing and ineffectually neutral antibodies as a viral host environment. Viral mutations that change the attack target of blocking antibodies are selected for. The viral mutants that are not affected will reproduce faster.
We take for granted that viral mutations will “make the virus immune to the vaccine” if the vaccine remains the same for a long time.The worrisome feature is ADE, which occurred with all animal tests of coronavirus vaccines in the SARS and MERS period of scientific study. The vaccines worked in the test animals. They made antibodies. More of the vaccinated animals died when exposed to the viral challenge, than did unvaccinated animals… every time.
It seems that a booster shot of Pfizer increases a waning benefit in the short term. That can only be the case while the blocking antibody effect exceeds the enhancing antibody effect, which will depend upon how long a viral strain has been mutating in this particular environment of vaccinated hosts. Some very successful strain will arise somewhere, and spread predominantly, due to escape from blocking antibody effects, and then, increasingly, from further mutations that exploit the helping hand of enhancing antibodies.
This kind of progression has now been documented in a Vietnamese hospital, locked down for 2 weeks while a specific delta-COVID variant spread among the vaccinated hospital staff. It was distinct from what was in the community. It caused viral loads (number of viral particles per drop of snot) to be 251 times as high as what had been found a year and a half earlier, using the same techniques in the same area. The delta-COVID in the vaccinated had a whole lot more reproductive success than the alpha-COVID in unvaccinated people had in early 2020. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/vaccine-diamond-princess.htmlExplain this clearly now, and the benefits of your words will be amplified as time unfolds.
It’s not just incompetence, IT’S BETRAYAL!
John Day
ParticipantTypos again…
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Participant@Ilargi: You asked what happens when vaccine failure becomes so obvious that it’s obvious.
That would be a fade-to-gray.
What happens when the vaccinated get sicker than the unvaccinated, from antibody dependent enhancement of viral pathogenicity?
That is far, far more dramatic of a betrayal.
Maybe it won’t play out that way, but itlooks like the vaccines don’t fade to gray, because the ADE gets stronger than the viral blocking with time.
The obvious enfd game is…
NEWER, BETTER VACCINES, but they may not be able to keep up with the curve and hude it this time.
I speculate. I may well be extrapolating wrong.
We’ll know before Halloween.John Day
ParticipantOops, “had to lock down for 2 weeks”
John Day
Participant“Vaccine Diamond Princess” All-Y’all have seen this information. No pics this time, either. Bike-to-clinic now. Caring for my patients is a sacred privilege.
https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/vaccine-diamond-princess.htmlA Vietnamese hospital had to lock down for 32 weeks with all staff in place, all fully vaccinated. A separate strain of delta-Covid was spreading through their ranks, and was different (sequencing done) from what was spreading outside those walls. The viral loads in their noses were 251 times as high as viral loads in early 2020 with alpha-COVID infections, measured by the same group. There are 2 differences, delta-Covid, and vaccination with alpha-spike-protein. If the vaccination is boosting this particular viral sub-strain, it will spread accordingly.
“This group had actually calculated viral load from oral and nasal secretions in the past. The viral load was 251 times that of the previous unvaccinated era where they had used the same methodology. So, they had previous workers and patients who had COVID-19 before any exposure to the vaccines. And now the vaccinated were carrying a massive viral load and passing it to one another.”Dr. Peter McCullough Tells RFK, Jr.: ‘The Vaccines Are Failing’
John Day
ParticipantI propose we invest our energy in surviving the tyranny, which is a response to the contracting economy, pearl-clutching by our current owners. Just survive, which is a lot of effort and learning curve, and adaptations not yet devised.
Just survive it…John Day
ParticipantDr McCullough explains the viral load measurements performed the same way, comparing viral load in the nasopharyngeal space between unvaccinated people infected with alpha-COVID and vaccinated people infected with delta-COVID. It is a fair and valid comparison: McCullouhg has to keep speaking while he can. He is being sued by his medical school employer. Heroic.
“This group had actually calculated viral load from oral and nasal secretions in the past. The viral load was 251 times that of the previous unvaccinated era where they had used the same methodology. So, they had previous workers and patients who had COVID-19 before any exposure to the vaccines. And now the vaccinated were carrying a massive viral load and passing it to one another.”John Day
ParticipantThanks Rototillerman and Those darned Kids.
John Day
ParticipantThere is now a class action suit by members of the US armed services against the Pentagon vaccine mandate:
“The Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin (the “SECDEF”) has publicly notified Plaintiffs, via Memo, that he will seek authorization from the President of the United States of America (the “President”), to mandate the COVID-19 vaccine on or about September 15, 2021,” the plaintiffs note. “Upon information and belief, the DoD is already vaccinating military members in flagrant violation of its legal obligations and the rights of servicemembers under federal law and the Constitution.”
“Army Regulation 40-562 provides documented survivors of an infection, a presumptive medical exemption from vaccination because of the natural immunity acquired as a result of having survived the infection,” the legal complaint added.
“General examples of medical exemptions include the following… Evidence of immunity based on serologic tests, documented infection, or similar circumstances,” the lawsuit cites.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/soldiers-fight-back-against-military-upcoming-vaccine-mandate-filing-lawsuit-against-pentagon/5753783The best population-psychology analysis of the Afghanistan withdrawal debacle, still underway, which I have seen, by Ben Hunt; (Baked-in 20 years ago.)
How is it possible that the world’s preeminent “intelligence community” – the NSA and the DIA and the NRO and the CIA and whole alphabet soup of associated agencies – with still more trillions of dollars of resources at their disposal, would fail to identify the catalyzing impact of a State Dept. announcement that the gig was up and the US government was abandoning Kabul? I don’t think it IS possible.
You’ll notice what I’m not saying. I’m not saying that the White House or the US State Dept. are too smart to make a boneheaded announcement of an embassy withdrawal. I’m also not saying that they’re stupid. What I AM saying is that both White House staff and non-career State Dept. staff devote whatever smarts they have to the domestic political ramifications of everything they do. What I AM saying is that the White House does not give a rat’s ass about Afghanistan except as it impacts domestic politics. What I AM saying is that the White House relies on the DOD and the IC to advise them on what’s actually going to happen in a place like Afghanistan if they do this or they do that.
I think the White House got some bad advice and made a boneheaded move.
Or more probably still, I think the boneheaded moves of this White House – designed entirely with an eye towards domestic politics – were met with oh-sure-boss-whatever-you-say indifference by people in the DOD and IC who knew better but were only too happy to see a painful debacle unfold.
The dominant narratives today are all strawmen – intentionally magnified and absurd counterfactuals to which the projected narrative stands in oh-so-bold opposition. You think the Afghanistan endgame was mangled by the Biden White House? Why you must be in favor of Forever Wars! TM. You think the Biden White House has the most coherent and correct policy for Afghanistan of any Administration over the past 20 years? Why you must be in favor of Abandoning Our Allies!
But that’s exactly what I think. I think the Biden White House has the most coherent and correct policy for Afghanistan of any Administration over the past 20 years AND I think that’s faint praise AND I think they completely mangled the endgame because all they think about is domestic politics AND I think the DOD and IC knew better because they of all people understand the Common Knowledge Game.
Everyone is gaslighting everyone. Everyone thinks they are a player.
I suspect this man profoundly understands the weaknesses of the US military at ground level.
Taliban Appoints former Gitmo Detainee as Afghanistan’s Defense Minister
Afghanistan’s new Taliban government has appointed former Guantanamo detainee mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir as it’s acting defense minister, according to Qatari based Al Jazeera news channel on Tuesday, subsequently reported in Reuters.
He was among the first senior Taliban commanders to enter Kabul last week as the group overran the capital amid the U.S. troop exit, and after U.S.-trained national forces largely fled. Until being named as Defense Minister, Qayyum was deputy to the Taliban’s commander-in-chief, Mullah Yaqoob.
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/taliban-appoints-former-gitmo-detainee-as-afghanistans-defense-minister/John Day
ParticipantVaccines don’t work for the immunosuppressed. Ivermectin does. How could they miss that?
Washington transplant patients removed from waiting list for refusing COVID-19 vaccine
The University of Washington Medical Center defends its decision, saying immunity suppression becomes an issue shortly after a transplant.
https://justthenews.com/nation/states/washington-transplant-patients-removed-waiting-list-refusing-covid-19-vaccineJohn Day
Participantcontinued…
Peter McCullough MD: (It’s an “Enhanced Carrier State” This hospital was like The Diamond Princess, but vaccinated.)
A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout.
The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.
While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.
This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally...
The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues.
They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another...
The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020.
Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.Here is that paper: Transmission of SARS-CoV-2 Delta Variant Among Vaccinated Healthcare Workers, Vietnam
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3897733Analysis of Public Health England statistics:
Latest PHE Data Shows Vaccine Effectiveness Down to Just 15% in the Over-50s, 37% in the Under-50s. Deaths Cut by 76% in Over-50s, But Just 12% in Under-50sJohn Day
ParticipantWhat Goes Around… https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/what-goes-around.html
(Hey, looks familiar!) Jenny is pictured in the shop with squash set out to cureFauci Dismisses “Freedom” In Call For Vaccine Mandates: “The Time Has Come. Enough Is Enough.”
“We’ve just got to get people vaccinated.”
(Tony Fauci knows full-well that the selection pressures created by non-sterilizing vaccines, which allow vaccinated hosts to carry mutating coronavirus in their noses, is what is inducing vaccine-resistant viral mutants. It is usual and expected.)
Fauci then dismissed freedom as an after thought, noting “I know I respect people’s freedom, but when you’re talking about a public health crisis that we’ve been going through for well over a year and a half, the time has come. Enough is enough. We’ve just got to get people vaccinated.”
“If we keep lingering without getting those people vaccinated that should be vaccinated, this thing could linger on, leading to the development of another variant which could complicate things.” Fauci further proclaimed.Fauci Dismisses “Freedom” In Call For Vaccine Mandates: “The Time Has Come. Enough Is Enough.”
Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine does not have FDA approval. Pfizer vaccine has a continuation of the EUA, Emergency Use Authorization, which shields Pfizer completely from any liability for all of those deaths and side effects.
Pfizer can keep selling and using all of their vaccine stock without any liability, and while making profit. Pfizer benefits from the good-publicity and the proliferation of vaccine mandates, which arise from FDA approval of the similar, but legally distinct BionTech product.
BionTech has no real stock of vials in the US, and does carry some legal liability, which will adhere to their renamed product, when it is released here.
This is the “best of both worlds” for the fevered rush (why?) to get a needle in every single arm right away.
Pfizer’s FDA approval research will be ready for submission in 2025. Pfizer eliminated the control group by unblinding the study and telling all the saline recipients that they got saline, and could get the real thing for free. Almost all of them did.
Eliminating the control group was portrayed as noble, but it also obscures evidence of adverse reactions and deaths in the treatment arm.
Full analysis here is bullet pointed and easy to read:
https://static1.squarespace.com/static/550b0ac4e4b0c16cdea1b084/t/6124fdd27da16f3e2c51aecb/1629814226387/Key+points+to+consider+FDA+letters+and+press+release.pdfJohn Day
Participant@Germ:
I could not find the link to just the video of the Fire captain without all of the disparaging comments about him. I would put it up if I had it.John Day
Participant@Bill7: We left Camp Pendelton around Thanksgiving 1964. I was in first grade. Did you leave in kindergarten? Maybe we were classmates. My dad was a captain, then a major. We lived on Cottonwood, then on Dogwood streets. I think the base housing was pretty similar. We had a canyon I could play in when we lived on Dogwood. I was not permitted to, though. I got very sick after my fourth birthday, and it took several visits to the dispensary until a major poked his index finger into my right lower abdomen, which HURT! I was surprised. He said, “It’s his appendix, we’ll take it out in the morning. They did. I remember all the details, including the dream I had under anesthesia.
John Day
Participant@Phoenix Voice: Those are banana plants, Maam!
Left 2 are dwarf Orinoco and right 2 are dwarf Namwah, which V. Arnold recommended. The February freeze killed all the bananas that I planted last fall, but these are doing fine, planted in May or so.
I’m doing other things with the growing space, trying out things like black beans and winter squash that you harvest all at once. I’m trying to grow a bunch of calories in that space, to see what works.John Day
ParticipantPublic Health England (PHE) finds that COVID new-cases are stable in the unvaccinated, but rising in the double-vaccinated, explaining all recent rises.
A group of demonstrators occupied the entrance of the headquarters of ITV News and Channel 4 News in London, claiming that the media are misinforming people about vaccines and the pandemic.
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/demonstrators-occupy-london-news-headquarters-over-pandemic-coverageNYC Orders 150,000 Teachers & School Staff To Either Get Vaccinated Or Find A New Job; NJ Orders Jabs For State Workers
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/nyc-orders-150000-teachers-school-staff-either-get-vaccinated-or-find-new-job The vaccine mandate was officially announced as policy today at my clinic. Everyone is required to be fully vaccinated by November 1, which means on track by early October, with a first jab. I don’t know how the month of October will be interpreted. That was not spelled out.
This is pretty lenient. The pro-vaccine narrative could be as abandoned as Afghan interpreters and Americans in Kabul by November.
We shall see. My moral choice remains clear. Now I have to do as much good-doctoring as I can fit in each precious day.Will the “Leathernecks” take the shot?
Pentagon To Mandate Covid Vaccine For All Service Members
Except, around one-third of US service members have refused the jab. In July, between 60% and 70% of personnel were fully vaccinated – with the Navy being the most vaccinated and the Marines being the least…
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/pentagon-mandate-covid-vaccine-all-service-members-one-third-refuse-jabJohn Day
ParticipantBlog is up. No photo today. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/post-totalitarianism-and-friends.html
Thanks for this , Cat: Covid Post-totalitarianism
It should be clear from the foregoing discussion that the covid regime resembles, in many respects, the post-totalitarian system described by Vaclav Havel. Regardless of “the science,” or rather because of it, the covid regime is post-totalitarian. “The science” has proven itself to be ideological. Although continually discredited—by the exaggeration of the virus’s lethality, by the suppression of known cures so as to usher in a state of emergency and the mRNA vaccines, by the underreporting of vaccine deaths and injuries, by the institution and reinstitution of failed and unscientific lockdown and masking mandates, and more—“the science” is wielded by authorities as if a matter of fact and a matter of course, just as Marxist ideology was wielded by Soviet communists. And, as under communism, even those who know the truth are compelled to live within the lie.
Just as the greengrocer was compelled to display signs of his loyalty under Soviet bloc communism, signs transmitting semantic content to which he was indifferent, so the covid citizen is compelled to display signs of compliance and complicity under the covid regime. The signs have included donning the mask and, increasingly, displaying the vaccine passport—to take part in society. And, as under communism, these displays are compulsory rituals...
…Rather than needing a political program, these dissidents seek community in “the continuing and cruel tension between the complex demands of that [covid] system and the aims of life, that is, the elementary need of human beings to live, to a certain extent at least, in harmony with themselves, that is, to live in a bearable way … ”
Yet their efforts may eventually assume a political character and may manage to create another world, and covid post-totalitarianism may be the crucible in which this other world is forged.
https://www.michaelrectenwald.com/essays/living-in-the-age-of-covid-the-power-of-the-powerless1.4 million Israelis have received a third dose of Pfizer vaccine against alpha-COVID spike protein from January 2, 2020 sequence, yet hospitalizations and deaths are still ramping up hard in this highly vaccinated country, after looking like they would fade away in June. There’s talk of a fourth lockdown… Thnks Jeremy.
There were 669 people hospitalized with COVID who are in serious condition, as of Sunday evening. One week ago, that figure stood at 535, and a month ago, it was just 76.
Health officials have warned that there could be as many as 2,400 seriously ill patients by the middle of next month, if case numbers continue to rise apace.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/nearly-200-covid-deaths-reported-in-past-week-but-booster-data-raises-hopes/John Day
Participant@Bill7: We are both bicyclists ho grew up at Camp Pendelton, though we got orders to move when I was 6, and never came back. We did visit my grandparents in San Diego often, though.
John Day
Participant@Mr. House, Sorry brother, I thought you had the jab and the bug.
My bad.
You are done, and I AM sorry about not catching the waft of hops…John Day
Participant@Mr. House: Never another jab for you. Sorry you can’t smell beer.
🙁
@Bill7: Thanks for the kind comments on the unusually flattering picture of me in your Mom’s 1970s garden patch.
@Doc. Robinson: Thanks for doing a good job of unpacking that BMJ article.John Day
ParticipantPfizer coerced deals upon countries that desired to obtain it’s COVID-19 vaccines last year, which broke laws of those countries, could not be revoked under any conditions or in light of new information or treatments (ivermectin, deadly side effects), and in some cases gave Pfizer ownership of things like military bases, should the country default. Thanks Luc. It was a seller’s market. Israel got a deal.
In history’s largest medical experiment with “vaccines” that have not been approved for use in humans, it is the buyers’ responsibility to defend Pfizer for causing harm, leaked documents showed. Pfizer has escaped all liability and is indemnified, arguing that side effects and the long-term effects of the injections are unknown – to the company as well. Pfizer thus admits that an insufficiently tested product is being pushed in literally billions of doses on the world market.
This means that all responsibility for costs, healthcare, etc. due to vaccine damage – no matter how large and onerous – is passed on to the taxpayers in the countries that have signed the agreements. Since the agreements put each country’s own laws out of play, they have all been signed at government level.Bombshell leak: Countries that buy Pfizer’s vaccine undertake to break the law
(Ram it through quick!) British Medical Journal: Covid-19: FDA set to grant full approval to Pfizer vaccine without public discussion of data
Last year the FDA said it was “committed to use an advisory committee composed of independent experts to ensure deliberations about authorisation or licensure are transparent for the public.”1 But in a statement, the FDA told The BMJ that it did not believe a meeting was necessary ahead of the expected granting of full approval.
https://www.bmj.com/content/374/bmj.n2086 People have not been able to get doctors to prescribe ivermectin for COVID treatment and prevention, so they have bought veterinary ivermectin to use, mostly the horse-paste, but there are also some horse pills. A horse weighs about 10 times as much as a human, so people who take a horse pill, at 10X the human dose are getting nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and dizziness, but that’s all. No deaths, and the one “hospitalization” in Mississippi, does not appear to be confirmed. Take the right dose. If you can’t do math, get help from a farm-boy who can. These horse products are used on goats, rabbits, farmers and farmers children, at the correct scaling doses. Ask a farmer with critters. FDA resorts to shouting and public shaming, because it’s hard to fear safer-than-Tylenol ivermectin.
The FDA Is Begging You Not to Take Horse Dewormer for Covid-19
“You are not a horse. You are not a cow,” the Food and Drug Administration said about using the drug that hosts on Fox News have been pushingThe FDA Is Begging You Not to Take Horse Dewormer for Covid-19
American Journal of Therapeutics:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspxJohn Day
ParticipantI’ll break these up. They wouldn’t post together:
A scientific paper from Nature, last October, gives clear historical context regarding this common and devastating and difficult to avoid vaccination side effect.
Look, they got this problem when they tried to make vaccines for SARS-Co-V and MERS, the close cousins of our current COVID family.
In this Perspective, we summarize examples of vaccine-associated disease enhancement in the history of developing vaccines against respiratory syncytial virus, dengue virus, SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, which highlight the importance of a robust safety and efficacy profile, and present recommendations for preclinical and clinical evaluation of COVID-19 vaccine candidates as well as for vaccine design and optimization.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-020-00462-y Here is a specific mechanism of vaccine-antibodies to alpha-COVID spike protein enhancing the ability of delta-COVID to enter human cells, once the spike protein anchors to the cell. This is demonstrated to predominate in effet over the blocking antibodies, since delta mutated and they lost effectiveness against it.
Infection-enhancing anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies recognize both the original Wuhan/D614G strain and Delta variants. A potential risk for mass vaccination?
Using molecular modeling approaches, we show that enhancing antibodies have a higher affinity for Delta variants than for Wuhan/D614G NTDs. We show that enhancing antibodies reinforce the binding of the spike trimer to the host cell membrane by clamping the NTD to lipid raft microdomains. This stabilizing mechanism may facilitate the conformational change that induces the demasking of the receptor binding domain. As the NTD is also targeted by neutralizing antibodies, our data suggest that the balance between neutralizing and facilitating antibodies in vaccinated individuals is in favor of neutralization for the original Wuhan/D614G strain. However, in the case of the Delta variant, neutralizing antibodies have a decreased affinity for the spike protein, whereas facilitating antibodies display a strikingly increased affinity.
https://www.journalofinfection.com/article/S0163-4453(21)00392-3/fulltext -
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