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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2022 #101939
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    Also @Boscohorowitz: When I stated that the ticket of Trump/Gabbard winning would signify victory over the current globalist PTB, I meant that they would have already failed to prevent it, and it would be a flag of opposition mounted upon their hill.
    People have feet of clay and change and stuff, but Tulsi appears to me, over 11 years of watching, to have what it takes to be an American Putin.
    YMMV. that’s just my view, and she has a twinkle of Lavrov in her, too.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2022 #101938
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    @Boscohorowitz: Again, I did not mean to bash anybody, just observed the first-order effects of taking advice which I interpreted as “declare victory and get out before things get nasty on you”.

    You said, and I think you answered it right here:
    ” It’s going to get more difficult to maintain as this goes along. So I hope that you’re all in this position to allow a sufficient victory to be sufficient. To move forward without rancor, to be grateful for the effect that you’ve already had and the support that you’ve received, and to move forward to a normative peace and the re-establishment of our country’s economy and our psychological and social well-being. So…”

    Please show me the ‘pack up and go home/give it up’ message in this.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2022 #101923
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    @”Deflationista”: As observed by D. Benton Smith, You’re caught in a serious narrative-riptide.

    Are “you” ok? I address the human comonent, but I know you may be constrained in what you are permited to write.
    I speak to YOU, not “deflationista”.
    You are alive.
    🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2022 #101921
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    Boscohorowitz said: “Well, I transcribed Jordan Peterson’s 2:30 video with arthritic fingers reeling from a fresh parrot bite, edited one eentsy thing, and it’s gone forever.. I’ll do it again when my fingers aren’t so sore (I have a book to write now and need them for that), but I’ll do it again later to support what I say to Doc Day now regarding his claim that JP is urging people to quit and go home: NO.HE.ISN’T. If you diagnosed patients with the level of attention by which you’ve ‘diagnosed’ JP as a traitor, you’d be drowning in malpractice lawsuits, Doc.
    You’re talking unsubstantiated smack, Doc. Slinging your own shit and blaming the mess on others.”

    I had previously said:
    “Jordan Peterson: He advised Canadian protesters to go home with things as they now stand, before getting arrested, and let the political machine work in their behalf, since they have made their point.
    This may be helpful advice for the faint-of-heart, but anybody at the protests already got all the memos.
    I would not look at second order effects right now. The first order effect is to support the tyranny by reducing opposition numbers on the ground.”

    Did I ascribe intent to defraud to Jordan? Did I “talk smack”?
    Sorry your fingers “got blisters on ’em”, Amigo.
    I didn’t do it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 18 2022 #101894
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    Addressing yesterday’s topics late:

    Jordan Peterson: He advised Canadian protesters to go home with things as they now stand, before getting arrested, and let the political machine work in their behalf, since they have made their point.
    This may be helpful advice for the faint-of-heart, but anybody at the protests already got all the memos.
    I would not look at second order effects right now. The first order effect is to support the tyranny by reducing opposition numbers on the ground. The tyrants cannot deal with the numbers as they now stand. Standing firm helps force the tyranny to change course or fail ignominiously.

    Tulsi Gabbard: She was once (not for 7 years, as per Doc Robinson) a promising WEF protege, but she went to mideast wars in a medical unit twice. She is an Army Reserve officer. She has called “bullshit” and resigned a DNC position over the defrauding of Sander/Sanders-voters. She has diverged while in the Democratic Party, and shot down Harris in the September (or so) 2019 debate, shot her down in flames, made her stumble and burble on camera, Tulsi has released her moorings to the DNC. She is clearly principled, and speaks eloquently, and to core constitutional issues which define the American Republic, and she looks straight at the camera, as she looked unwaveringly into my eyes when I explained HCQ for COVID to her 3/2/20 in Austin (image on blog) https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/03/six-billion-doses.html She listened intently to my entire explanation. I have watched her politically since 2010, when I was working in Hawaii. I saw that she was principled. This struck me as unusual. I have watched her intently. She has been consistent and reliable.
    For “Great Man” leader in the next “First Turning”, I nominate Tulsi Gabbard. If Trump runs in 2024, with her in VP position, and wins, it means regime change has happened, because “they” would have been defeated in the present and for the foreseeable future by this one-two-punch.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 17 2022 #101771
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    @Boscohorowitz from ysterday.
    I looked at the 2:30 video of Canadian clinical psychologist, Jordan Peterson telling the truckers, “You’ve maybe obtained some beginnings of recognition/representation, so go home before things get worse”
    That would support the thing they are against, just when Canada is at the tipping point.

    Jordan Peterson supports Trudeau’s owners.

    @D.Benton Smith: Interesting postulate that Trudeau’s owners will sacrifice him to an assassin to justify totalitarian repression. It would be desperate. I think it has a low likelihood of success.

    @All-Y’All: I think the owners need to still be holding the same bag, the same failed control narrative (PANDEMIC!) when the stock market and western finance collapse.

    Please do not let them have any new narrative that allows martial law powers to assign the financial losses to their enemies!

    Please don’t bite!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 16 2022 #101630
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    @Absolute Galore: I could not readily comprehend your encrypted message.

    @US State Dept. I think Russia is going to respect Syria’s borders and continue the US to do so as well.
    Just a word to the wise. I’m pretty sure this happening twice in the same day is a form of communication.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-russian-jets-dangerous-intercept-incident-over-syria

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2022 #101510
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    Oops. Howdat happen? Double-and-a-half post

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2022 #101509
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    @Boscohorowitz: Does Santa happen to be pals with Keith Richards? Just thinking they have a lot in common. Also, thanks for kind words.


    @Farmer
    McGregor: Thanks for the offer of assistance with the homestead project. If you leave a message at http://www.johndayblog.com with some version of your email minimally encoded, I will delete it and contact you. (That’s really a couple of clicks too-nice, what you said, though.)

    Bill7: Thank You.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2022 #101503
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    @Boscohorowitz: Does Santa happen to be pals with Keith Richards? Just thinking they have a lot in common.


    @Farmer
    McGregor: Thanks for the offer of assistance with the homestead project. If you leave a message at http://www.johndayblog.com with some version of your email minimally encoded, I will delete it and contact you. (That’s really a couple of clicks too-nice, what you said, though.)

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 15 2022 #101352
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    Trying to catch up on yesterday before driving down to the homestead to do interior construction…
    Hopeless

    Phoenixvoice: We all give and take. Some rapaciously take then give in public for recognition. That’s not you, Sister.


    @Boscohorowitz
    : (I didn’t read the Bhagavad Gita yet, either) I get it about you challenging Dr.D to be the best he can be. He’s fairly driven already.

    @ D Bemton Smith: Maybe “they” “got to” Kunstler. Do you know what Alex Jones was subjected to in the late 1990s to early 2000s? His family was hurt, not just Alex. He is in a little Overton-window portal of his own these days, but I don’t fault him for it.


    @Oroboros
    : List of names who done the COVID Lab Pandemic and nascent global Eugenicide: Thanks: https://www.trinityfarms.org/blog/the-people-killing-humanity/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2022 #101236
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    I think I saw boscohorowitz making semi-nice to Dr. D.
    Anybody else see that?

    The 24 minute video Germ posted is good for what it deflates (oops, that word), but it does leave out a lot of facts to get there, too. It’s good, but its not an entire picture.
    “Scarlet Fever” went down without vaccines because it is caused by the same strep that causes strep throat, and antibiotics came into broad use, for instance.
    Jenner just wrote up a process that General Washington already performed on Revolutionary War troops, and they were out of action for 6 weeks after, as I recall, but smallpox was rampant in those days and he did it, anyway.
    I do appreciate the bubble-popping, though…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2022 #101196
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    Dr.D said: “I’ve also heard the suggestion that Russia’s navy, while moving to the Black Sea, now has 100 ships off Syria. Taking all of Syria and restoring it to legal control would be the perfect foil to the Ukraine nonsense.
    Unexpected. Stops the UAE+ pipeline to Europe permanently. If I were him, at the same time putting all Turkey and the straits entirely into Russian control. Then no U.S. Navy there ever again. Sort of your “Suez Canal” moment.”

    The UAE and Iran are going to cooperate on pipeline from the vast Pars gas field, and the US has already, basically conceded the point, over which they instigated the “civil-war” in Syria. US still blocks any pipeline from Pars gas field to Europe, which is supposed to compete with Russia, and reduce Russian energy-war soft-power.

    Events are not going according to THAT plan , lately…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2022 #101195
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    heh, heh, heh …I have helped promulgate this very rumor. i LIKE it!
    “The crowd, now numbering in the tens of thousands, is attempting to escape fierce political oppression by Fidel Castro’s tyrant son in Ottawa.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 14 2022 #101193
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    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101161
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    Thanks VP Gary. I always like pictures of Jung, too.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101110
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    Going for a bike ride now. super Bowl Sunday is always good for that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101109
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    America asks: “A war with Russia? Before or after the Super Bowl?”​ Pepe Escobar has the diplomacy story.
    ​ ​French Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire – the inspiration for one of the main characters in Michel Houellebecq’s cracking new book, Anéantir – said that the launch of Nord Stream 2 “is one of the main components of de-escalating tensions on the Russian-Ukrainian border.” Gallic flair formulated out loud what no German had the balls to say.
    ​ ​In Kiev, after his stint in Moscow, it looks like Macron properly told Zelensky which way the wind blows now. Zelensky hastily confirmed Ukraine is ready to implement the Minsk agreements; it never was, for seven long years. He also said he expects to hold a summit in the Normandy format – Kiev, the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, Germany and France – “in the near future”. A meeting of Normandy format political advisers will happen in Berlin on Thursday.​ ​ A few sharp minds in the Beltway, emailing their networks, did notice in my column how “the goal of Russian and Chinese policy is to recruit Germany into a triple alliance locking together the Eurasian land mass a la Mackinder into the greatest geopolitical alliance in history, switching world power in favor of these three great powers against Anglo-Saxon sea power.”
    ​ ​Now, a very high-level Deep State intel source, retired, comes down to the nitty gritty, pointing out how “the secret negotiations between Russia and the US center around missiles going into Eastern Europe, as the US frantically drives for completing its development of hypersonic missiles.”
    ​ ​The main point is that if the US places such hypersonic missiles in Romania and Poland, as planned, the time for them to reach Moscow would be 1/10 the time of a Tomahawk. It’s even worse for Russia if they are placed in the Baltics. The source notes, “the US plan is to neutralize the more advanced defensive missile systems that seal Russia’s airspace. This is why the US has offered to allow Russia to inspect these missile sites in the future, to prove that there are no hypersonic nuclear missiles. Yet that’s not a solution, as the Raytheon missile launchers can handle both offensive and defensive missiles, so it’s possible to sneak in the offensive missiles at night. Thus everything requires continuous observation.”

    “Do You Want a War Between Russia and NATO?”

    ​Battle of nerves? Game of chicken​?
    Both US & Russia Evacuate Embassies in Kiev Ukraine
    “Military action may commence at any time and without warning,” the US has said.
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry too has confirmed it’s reducing its diplomatic presence in the country, including its embassy and consulates. A statement says Moscow fears “possible provocations from the Kyiv regime or third countries” that could “seriously complicate the security situation.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/biden-tells-americans-ukraine-leave-now-things-could-go-crazy-quickly

    Biden is rooting for Russia to invade Ukraine, Tulsi Gabbard says​ (from Russia Today)
    ​ “I have a hard time seeing how President Biden or anyone can say with an honest face, ‘We are defending democracy,’” Gabbard told Carlson. “And the reason is because our own government has publicly supported these authoritarian actions by the Ukrainian president in shutting down their own political opposition … This sounds familiar to some of the things that unfortunately, we’re seeing play out right here at home.”
    https://www.rt.com/news/549182-gabbard-says-biden-wants-russia-ukraine-war/

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101106
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    A picture dining on the screen porch yesterday after some finishing work, and a few of the links are here:https://www.johndayblog.com/2022/02/ambassadors-of-democracy.html

    Professor Anthony Hall, in Canada: ​The Truckers Take Abuse in Ottawa: COVID Crimes Committed Behind the Cover of “Emergency Measures”
    …These claims of emergency have never been seriously spelled out, let alone proven, in front of judges. Hence our judges have shown themselves to be unequal to the responsibilities of defending the rule of law when it is most subject to severe attack…​
    ​ ​Trudeau seems to have come unhinged in his lunatic obsession to only talk about, rather than with, the representatives of the Canadian Truckers’ Convoy. The truckers are holding their ground in Ottawa until they are invited to negotiate terms with Canada’s national government…​ ​
    ​ ​Trudeau makes no allowance for the fact that the truckers have attracted large and enthusiastic support when they wheeled across the country. In doing so they became envoys of a demonstrable popular upsurge felt by many Canadians.​..​

    The Truckers Take Abuse in Ottawa: COVID Crimes Committed Behind the Cover of “Emergency Measures”

    ​That looks like more than 10,000 Australians to me, but it’s hard to count. Where’s Waldo?​
    Thousands of protesters marched through Australia’s capital to the parliament building on Saturday to decry Covid-19 vaccine mandates, the latest in a string of rallies against pandemic restrictions around the world.
    Demonstrators packed Canberra’s streets before massing outside the parliament, some waving the red Australian ensign flag associated with “sovereign citizens” who believe national laws do not apply to them.
    Protesters, many with children, rallied under bright skies brandishing banners proclaiming “Fight for Your Freedom & Rights”, “Free Aus Freedom Now”, or “No forced drugs” written above a symbol of a syringe.
    Police estimated there were up to 10,000 protesters. They were “generally well behaved”, a police spokesman said. https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2022/02/770854/thousands-protest-vaccine-mandates-australian-capital

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101104
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    Thanks Oroboros: Maybe I was one in more than 100 doctors in Austin.
    I’ve been furloughed indefinitely for it, but life is far from over.


    @Phoenixvoice
    : Hypocricy alienates me, too. I’m glad “the kids are alright”.

    @D Benton Smith: and “deflationista” May your minds meet, but “it’s hard to get a man to understand something when his job depends on him not understanding it”. Understanding may not be reflected directly, but it may still be humanly beneficial in the longer term.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101096
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    @Boscohorowitz: I cannot afford to comply with the legally mandated costs of practicing medicine in Texas, which was different in 1992-1994, the last time I did that.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101095
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    @Oroboros: I told men and women the data available to at whatever time I met them. I advised healthy men under 50 to wait-and-see, to take vitamin-D, and to ask for me if they tested positive and wanted antiviral treatment

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101090
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    @Boscorowitz: Thanks for the B-52s and stuff.
    I can’t afford to be in private practice. The compliance expense is staggering, and I’m no good at extracting money. I await notification of my next assignment in life.
    Eating at home. Not spending much…


    @Michael
    Reid: Happy to be of some kind of assistance, Sir!

    @Absolute Galore: If you leave me your email on http://www.johndayblog.com, in a word-salad kind of way, I’ll read it and delete it and email you.

    @Figmund Sreud: Thank you, Fellow Human. I’m glad you are on the mend.


    @Germ
    : good find: “The father of two isn’t against COVID-19 immunization — in fact, he’s still recovering from his first shot.”

    Kassandra and Noirette: Right-on, Sisters!

    @eixa1949: thanks for the Canberra protest update, Sir!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101076
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    @Oroboros: One of the “causes” I was fired for , right after Governor Abbot declared vaccine mandates illegal in Texas, was my advising patients of the risks and advising pregnant women not to take them. I advised every relatively healthy person who was not elderly against them, especially those who already had the bug.
    Seeking revenge is not the best way. It begets further revenge.
    Justice, is different. Justice is kind of rare, even…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101018
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    When I read about them playing the Barry Manilow loop tape at the protesters in Wellington “Mandy” started playing in the cab of my mind.
    I won’t send a link. I assume you know the song, but that evoked this song about “The Highway Cafe Of The Damned” with the line “The radio is playing Barry Manilow incessantly, it almost drives me MAD!…”

    (What were ‘the seven vices on his mind”?) Really, listen, and you might like “The Ballad of Ronald Reagan” too 🙂

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101017
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    https://www.johndayblog.com/2022/02/investigating-reality.html

    I keep having an epiphany, or maybe a delusion; I’ll call it a hypothesis, that our stories of how history happens and why, the mechanisms we hold responsible, are fabricated, just fabricated, before, during and after. That is a mundane statement about the general dishonesty in human civilizations, the cynical or sincere dishonesty which creates control-narratives that a society can agree to accept, so that it can work in-concert. “Noble Lie”, Plato called it in “The Republic”.

    This creeping (mis?)understanding is that things happen. We have minds that seek meanings, and which seek the protection of predictive explanations of the world. When our predictive calculations are a little off, we may adjust our narrative or do nothing. When they are grossly wrong, and for a whole society, the story in retrospect becomes completely different than what it was projected to be, and portrayed to be during its unfolding. The losers don’t write history.
    That is still mundane, but it is getting closer to saying that “reality” is NOT what we expect it to be, or what we experience it AS, while we hold the models of the world which we have learned, the models which we believe from our experiences of life, as well as our childhood indoctrinations.

    “Scientism” is a core component of most people’s world-views these days, including immigrant workers who I have served medically in recent decades, but it was not the dominant worldview in the former plantation workers I served medically in North Kohala, Hawaii. I was frustrated in my attempts to explain medical diagnoses and treatments scientifically. It was a foreign tongue. What did work, and allowed me to provide good medical care, was my sincere connection, my efforts to connect and help, which were readily understood, but it took a long time each time.
    My efforts to sustain the clinic finances failed, despite my giving up all other efforts on the island. I came back to “the mainland”. I learned something, maybe, that there are societies which shop at Costco and drive Toyotas, work at the resorts, and enjoy a completely different worldview, within the world which I assumed to accept scientism.
    I had not seen it quite the same when I worked on the Navajo Reservation. The Navajo people speak no more than necessary, tell me that “they do not think in words” They do appreciate sincere actions in service, and accept people who show them that. I know there is something very deep and strong and unspoken there, which I could see and engage, and which changed my life in the context of a Native American Church purification-sweat, in my benefit.
    I also worked for it, but the mystery was wrought upon my being, reshaping my life by those spiritual practitioners.

    Scientism is not science per se, but it is mostly a mechanistic interpretation of physical reality, which Isaac Newton described mathematically. Newton did not personally accept “mechanics” as being the dominant form in human life. Newton’s mechanics was a tool he described for practical purposes, like understanding planetary motion, and building machines, and bridges. Isaac Newton was an alchemist, a spiritual metaphysics of his day. Natural-Philosophy carried broader existential concerns in that day than “science” does these days. It was philosophy, not technocracy.
    “Scientism” is a faith-based religion as it is practiced. There is a hierarchy. There are compliant levels in the hierarchy.

    The correctness of the dogma is not much questioned, but the focus is on compliance, so as to be without sin, without non-compliance. This can be all consuming.
    I think this explains how good doctors and medical professionals have been turned to conformity with a system which results in harm to patients, not treating with antivirals for COVID, while experiencing all of the suffering in their compassionate hearts, serving long hours in a system, within which they sought devoutly to comply. Many of these dedicated medical professionals were becoming emotionally exhausted and overwhelmed in these long months of service.

    I remember not questioning protocols when I was in training. I was learning and doing my best, and I did both. I remember volunteering as a subject for the AIDS-Vaccine trials around Y2k, without question, as soon as I heard that there was a trial site in Austin, and a doctor I knew was a co-investigator.
    I was lucky, as it turns out. I recently learned that the trial was halted early, which I had been told at the time, because vaccine recipient gay men had a higher risk of contracting AIDS than the gay male control group. I was never told that.
    I was not at that particular risk, and I had happened to be randomly assigned to a non-active-vaccine arm. I suspected that I might have been given adjuvant-without-vaccine, because I did have various symptoms, which I duly recorded. Maybe not, though.
    AIDS was the disease of my medical school years, described the summer I started working in research at the med school, before starting fall classes. I learned hard. I saw a lot of strange hypotheses about the cause of AIDS rise and fall. I saw a lot of bad advice given. I saw a lot of people treated like lepers. I saw fear and disgust among some of my peers. I saw some of my peers in med school working as gay prostitutes in Houston. I never questioned the official narrative once it was formulated. I did my best to serve within that narrative. I took an elective with an AIDS specialist in residency.
    Did I sometimes mistreat people based upon recommendations which would later change? Probably. I did my best, and that was always appreciated.

    So I was trained as a scientist, beginning in engineering, and drifting into pre-med when I got a job in a hospital, working my way through college. I did well in scientific research in college and med school. I was suited to asking questions, finding potential answers, and testing whether they were actually right or not. I was good at that kind of scientific process, and good at working with lab animals (RIP), but I also accepted the hierarchy as being right most of the time, at least as my initial assumption. I did not really question the whole format, but I did learn that some of the better funded labs “always got the results that were expected” and were well funded with grants as a result. This was a subtle denigration, but I knew what it meant. They were scientific prostitutes for hire.
    I was fortunate to work on NASA grants for weightlessness-deconditioning research. NASA wanted the truth. No inherent conflicts…

    Scientism is prostituted, and that has been the advancing business model as corporate grants fund the parts of science which can justify the use of patents to make exclusive profits on scientifically-proven products, processes and drugs, to pay for more scientific studies to prove that profitable things are uniquely good.
    When the same corporations “capture” their government regulatory bodies (“revolving door syndrome”) and buy up the print and broadcast media after people quit buying subscriptions, and own the internet monopolies, the game can be played very hard, very fast and very loose. That’s what we have been living through for 2 years.

    This time around, I was following news, available to me through the internet, which gave me about 3 months of personal information analysis lead time before official narratives were released or updated. I was incredulous at their stupidity for a long time, until appearances became more sinister. I still did not get it , but was frustrated when Trump’s advocacy for early treatment, which I already knew was helpful, was met with political denunciation, followed by medical denunciation, despite the available data. The VA and teaching hospitals stopped using it. Anecdotally, from a trusted source, mortality rates worsened, but there were a lot of other variables in the first half of 2020, also.
    Right after the HCQ, Azithromycin and zinc protocol was made anathema, and forbidden in my clinic, the ivermectin, zinc and doxycycline protocol was used to excellent effect (Thanks Thomas Borody MD!) in Bangladesh. It was supremely safe; no need to check an EKG before treatment. I started prescribing it and saw immediate benefits from the very start, reliably improved symptoms within 2 days, and very few hospitalizations.

    When the narrative changed to deprive the “unvaccinated” of legal and medical rights, to deprive them/us of personhood, I saw the pattern I had warned our kids about at Dachau, the Anne Frank House, and Tuol Sleng museum in Cambodia.
    I declared my permanent refusenik stance on moral grounds, not merely on science, but humanitarian grounds.

    I put my own flesh on that line. It was a metaphysical act. https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/08/in-crosshairs.html
    That kind of personal action is in concert with science, with morality, and more. I sense that it is coherent within Navajo and Pacific Island comprehensions of Reality.

    I was puzzled to learn from a really excellent Physics Professor in college, who did a consummate job of explaining relativity and the uncertainty principle, that he did not let this concern his practice of religion, that he, and others he knew, did not try to synthesize these models of reality.
    I asked this because I was really trying to do that, and thought that he might be of considerable help to me. ZERO.
    That was the same response I had gotten from Deacon Brubaker almost a decade earlier, “I wouldn’t worry about it”.

    Many of us have wondered what madness overcame whole societies, such as overcame cosmopolitan Germany in the 1930s. Carl Jung and Hannah Arendt lived through this time, and studied “Mass Psychosis” (aka “mass formation”) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

    In October 2020 I asked “What is the Body Politic?” https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/10/the-body-politic.html
    I hypothesized a complex interconnection, through “collective consciousness” and/or “collective unconscious”, which are terms Jung used to describe the dynamic he was seeing, a dynamic of social cohesion which transcended, or preceded intellect.
    Intellect would explain this wave of perception, but he did not view it as the underlying cause of the wave of perception and massed cohesive societal action.

    Do we have “free will” or not? Or sometimes?
    Do we have “freedom” to explain what we did after we just did it, to make up an explanation for our impulsive actions?
    Do some people have more freedom to actually decide what actions to take than do others?
    I know it’s hit and miss for me.

    I have different free-will now, in middle age, after being a doctor for 35 years, than I did earlier in my medical career, when I was more blithely accepting of medical narratives. (I already knew military narratives were lies, and I still remember that.)

    I find myself experimenting, flesh-in-the-game, with “reality narratives”. Any real physicist can and should tell you that all of physical science is an incomplete model, and does not adequately describe or predict “reality”, which is a term we use. There is the :uncertainty principle” which embeds this fact in the current best models. Albert Einstein expressed his deep intuition that “God does not play dice with the universe”. Einstein “did not believe in a personal God”, nor was he deterministic/fatalistic, nor did he completely accept the “randomness” in the Quantum mechanics model, prompted by his own work describing the photoelectric effect. What did Albert Einstein mean? He mostly clarified what he did not mean…

    There is an assertion in the “mind only” school of Tibetan Buddhism that universal consciousness is the “substance” or context within which all of reality exists.
    This assertion cannot be logically proven, nor can it be logically refuted. Would it have implications?
    Might the hypothesis be testable by a human, such as myself? How did Jung know what he seemed to know and described so well?
    His writings ring-true to me. How does a concept “ring true”? What is the mechanism. How does that concept-resonance work?
    Is it a spiritual affirmation given to the human consciousness when it seeks truth? “Seek and ye shall find”?

    I just looked up whether Jung and Einstein ever met. It turns out that they did. Einstein repeatedly tried to explain his nascent theory of relativity to Jung, which he could not actually do.
    Jung wrote, “When he was just starting to work on the theory of relativity, Einstein came often to my house, and I bombed him with questions about the new theory. I’m not good at math and imagine the problem that the poor guy had to explain relativity. He didn’t know how to explain it. Faced with the difficulty of it, I felt insignificant. I wanted to sink into the ground. Until one day he asked me something, and psychology was my revenge. The expertise is a big disadvantage. The intensification is such that you can’t explain.” https://carljungdepthpsychologysite.blog/2019/11/21/carl-jung-on-meeting-albert-einstein/#.Ygh6_1XMLFg

    So Jung and Einstein, the guys whose deeply insightful work I am trying to draw upon, spoke repeatedly and earnestly and could not adequately understand each other. They could see the value, and they really did try.
    I can relate to that.

    If the universe is not simply mechanistic, but has “unknowability” as I might ask to call it, which is delineated in the uncertainty-principle of quantum mechanics (a useful tool), how does that correlate to “Karma”, the workings of which I have repeatedly observed and experienced in my life. Karma has predictive-value in my human experience, but I never know exactly what the blowback will be, though it’s pretty clear when it comes, and I long ago figured that I should stop testing it. Really stop testing it. That’s enough of a test for my satisfaction. If karma works, then the universe cannot be simply mechanical. That agrees with spiritual models and it does not necessarily disagree with physics if the “uncertainty” we observe in physics experiments is a reflection of “unknowability” through that mechanism of investigation, and not an inherent “randomness”. Randomness works in that model, which looks at very specific subatomic interactions, but quantum mechanics has broad implications for all of physical reality. Physical reality cannot be mechanically deterministic because of it, though general relativity works quite well in the macro prediction of planetary movements in space time, even when space-time gets a little bent by gravity and high speeds.

    If the universe, all of “reality”, exists within universal consciousness, could our observed “uncertainty” be the subtle space where universal consciousness adjusts the “uncertain” mechanics of our experienced “reality” in order for spiritual cause-and-effect to be a fundamental natural law?
    It’s still not provable or refutable as a theory, is it?
    I’m pleased enough to be unable to refute my own tentative hypothesis in my own mind, but I’ll readily admit how low a bar that is…

    I’ll permit myself to pretend I made some progress justifying the concept of relative freedom of choice based upon relative comprehension of physical and spiritual law, which I still seek to synthesize.
    We all tend to explain what we just did, as if suddenly asked by an adult how that broken jam jar got to be on the kitchen floor.
    Jung was able to observe mass psychosis/formation without becoming entrapped within it. He did always sincerely seek to understand human behavior, and was a spiritual practitioner, who did not seek to intellectually distance himself, as did Freud. I experience Jung’s observations as being consistent with my own life experience, and I discern his sincerity and personal-engagement, his skin-in-the-game style of investigating the fundamental workings of human perception and engagement with life. Jung studied the jelly jar on the floor thousands of times over decades. He really did want to know, in an adult way, how the broken jelly jar came to be on the kitchen floor, wanted to completely know.
    Is mass formation/psychosis a self-controlling mechanism of human societies? Is it “good” sometimes and “bad” sometimes? Does it function with or without sociopaths to get half the people to kill the other half of the people when the harvest is poor? Do we just make up these stories as control narrative, all of them false. Do we believe one false narrative while we scheme to deceive others with a false narrative we are concocting for their betrayal?
    Just wondering, and thinking that free-will seems variable when I examine it closely.
    “Knowing the truth and being set free” seems more like an incremental discovery process than a satori-awakening.

    Where this leads me is to hold the best intentions for the good of all, while catching myself subtly cheating and wishing some people ill, rather than improvement of their lots. That’s a lot of ongoing work and I don’t want to tattle further on myself right now. I’ll try not to tell myself creation-stories about the unfoldings of history around me.
    I’ll keep trying to see if my observations match various models of “reality”, and I’ll try to be honest with myself about it, so that I might observe subtleties, and find ways to understand and communicate them.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 13 2022 #101016
    John Day
    Participant

    @Sumac Carol:
    We already have a form of fascism, Sister.
    I agree that right-fascism, as in WW-2 becomes the threat if this left fascist synthesis fails, because totalitarianism, driven by mass formation, remains the easy-way-out for elites to turn angry, frightened and increasingly hungry masses against NOT-THEM.

    Be patient. Stick around. Lurk if you need to. Our healthy conversations should continue.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 12 2022 #100980
    John Day
    Participant

    Thanks for the thanks, Kassandra.

    Phoenixvoice: God bless you and your children. I’ve been catching up on the past few busy days.

    Thanks for the deep cave dives in the undersea rabbit hole, Dr.D.

    Thanks for the radio story, insights and policing efforts Boscohorowitz.

    Keep trying Sumac Carol: You are decent and sincere.

    VP Gary: Compassion is the mother with no arms, whose child just fell into a rushing river.
    What does she do?
    There is an answer that I never heard spoken until it flashed to me in a nocturnal awakening.
    “Of course”, my wife said, when I told her.

    Thanks D Benton Smith: Careful zooming with “bosco”/Robin!

    Cloudhidden, I get it. Oxymoron: I’m glad somebody helped and you danced in the woods illegally.
    & ezixa1949 How is the Aussie meet up in Canberra progressing?

    Oroboros: Careful, Man. Cloudhidden knows the horror of violence, which is the wrong action for the right reasons (IMHO).

    TAE Summary: Belated thanks again.

    TDK: Keep it up

    A Kullervo (Finnish?) and Bill7: The owners/elites are not stupid, but “stupidity/incompetence” is the “defense” of their lackeys, the narcissistic-sociopathic spectrum political and bureaucratic functionaries. It’s close enough to true for the hierarchical parasitic extraction systems to collapse “our” political-economy life-support systems periodically.

    Fixing it is “somebody else’s problem”. That falls to survivors. Many won’t want that problem.
    As to what-to-do-with-all-this-injustice-information..
    I’m doing what I can to tackle it today and yesterday and stuff. I’m trying to do some winter gardening chores while I do interior work on the homestead-addition most days, with the attendant 4 hour round trip in a 21 mpg 25 year old Ford Ranger. While I still can.
    I suspect the paper-shortage for books is real. The co-owner of the Yoakum hardware story says he has never seen supply chains this badly broken in 30 years. I believe him. I’m still waiting on some fairly ordinary things…

    I keep having what may be an epiphany or delusion, which i call a hypothesis, about how history and the causes of history are made up, before, during and after, and what the Jungian implications might be, … or not…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 12 2022 #100886
    John Day
    Participant

    @Sea Birds: I am putting the self-assembling nanotechnology in COVID vaccines pieces together here:
    https://archive.fo/2022.01.29-225016/https://masksaredangerous.com/nanotech-in-the-shots/

    It’s a Small World: Micro-tech in the Jabs?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100743
    John Day
    Participant

    @All-Y’all: Go easy on the doctors. I’m still one, despite being fired.
    My daughter is one, in the university teaching hospital where she went to med school. She volunteered to have the first COVID ward. She got swept along with the current of protocols.
    She is trying to help without breaking rules and protocols, and it mainly is helping extended family quietly.
    Yes, “unwitting foot soldiers of global elites”.
    “Think like a doctor” got replaced with “out of compliance” as a mindset after doctors lost control of medicine/hospitals to corporations/bureaucrats.
    It was NOT perfect before, but it did not get safer or better for patients, just more layers of profit and lies and hurdles to jump…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100742
    John Day
    Participant

    @Red: Grandpa Was A Carpenter, John Prine

    @A Kullervo: I looked up Kullervo. Finland?

    @Doc Robinson: Is Tulsi pregnant? It’s about time. (She’s 40)
    She has a smooth, warm glow in her voice.
    I notice those little zippers on her pockets. She’s more bosomy than before…
    I hope she is. She would be a fine, fine mother.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100740
    John Day
    Participant

    oops: “unifying impulse”…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100739
    John Day
    Participant

    @VP Gary: I agree in principle, but the unifying impilse does not have to be intellectual, nor does it have to spread through words and concepts, though the “Zeitgeist” will evoke certain core concepts, like Freedom/Slavery and Noble-Cause…
    That’s what my observations, reading of history, and attention to the late 1960s and our current societal morass lead me to believe.
    I feel it.
    My hypothesis is refutable.
    Hive mind collective-unconscious/conscious takes over in critical times (or it does not).
    Narrative and history are the story made up about what happens…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100738
    John Day
    Participant

    Do not try to destroy a high pressure truck tire when it is pressurized.
    Fortunately they are far, far tougher than car tires, and mainly lose the tread.
    All those steel sidewall plies will resist your knife.

    Armor piercing ammunition from an assault rifle would work.
    Stand back a bit.
    Devil’s in the details, ya’know?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 11 2022 #100737
    John Day
    Participant

    The Artist above, Richard Oelze was German.
    He painted The Expectation in 1936.
    He lived until 1980, I read.
    I feel like that painting now…

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2022 #100397
    John Day
    Participant

    I remember some dark field microscopy picturesof human blood on slides after mRNA “vaccination” posted here recently. I wonder if this is directly related:
    THE GREAT RESET | WHY DID RICE (University) DEVELOP SELF-ASSEMBLING GRAPHENE OXIDE USING NANO-TECHNOLOGY?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2022 #100393
    John Day
    Participant

    Attn: “Deflationista” Duplicate post.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2022 #100391
    John Day
    Participant

    From Nature: Genetic analysis of Omicron variants in New York sewage shows an extremely broad arary of mutations (which would take years to develop, not months) including mutations that facilitate binding to receptors in mice and rats, such as would arise if the strain had been developed in a lab using “humanized” mice and rats. These are all resistant to vaccine-induced antibodies.
    ​ ​To monitor New York City (NYC) for the presence of novel variants, we deep sequence most of the receptor binding domain coding sequence of the S protein of SARS-CoV-2 isolated from the New York City wastewater. Here we report detecting increasing frequencies of novel cryptic SARS-CoV-2 lineages not recognized in GISAID’s EpiCoV database. These lineages contain mutations that had been rarely observed in clinical samples, including Q493K, Q498Y, E484A, and T572N and share many mutations with the Omicron variant of concern. Some of these mutations expand the tropism of SARS-CoV-2 pseudoviruses by allowing infection of cells expressing the human, mouse, or rat ACE2 receptor. Finally, pseudoviruses containing the spike amino acid sequence of these lineages were resistant to different classes of receptor binding domain neutralizing monoclonal antibodies.
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-28246-3

    How Empires Die, Charles Hugh Smith
    When the state / empire loses the ability to recognize and solve core problems of security and fairness, it will be replaced by another arrangement that is more adaptable and adept at solving problems.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blogfeb22/empires-die2-22.html

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2022 #100390
    John Day
    Participant

    Will this really happen today? Will the police in Ottawa really arrest people on foot carrying gasoline cans and picnic baskets?
    Some think not…
    Ottawa police threaten arrests for sharing fuel with Freedom Convoy​ ​​ ​Authorities want to deprive protesters of ‘material support’
    https://www.rt.com/news/548498-ottawa-police-seize-fuel-arrests/

    This is almost 3 toxic-jabs per year per Canadian.
    Federal contracts poised to deliver 100 million vaccine doses annually for years
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/pfizer-moderna-contracts-2024-1.6311559

    ​Another scholarly paper showing that these gene-therapy vaccines” suppress the natural competence of the human immune system:
    Innate Immune Suppression by SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccinations
    https://www.authorea.com/users/455597/articles/552937-innate-immune-suppression-by-sars-cov-2-mrna-vaccinations-the-role-of-g-quadruplexes-exosomes-and-micrornas

    in reply to: Debt Rattle February 8 2022 #100387
    John Day
    Participant

    Oroboros sent the link to this Michael Hudson article about the US financial relationship with European “allies” (aka “tributary countries”). The $US global financial system needs industrial countries to stay bought-in to $US and buying US federal debt, or else the dollar will become an ordinary currency in the world, be dumped, and the rest of the world will send $US to the US for whatever is on sale that week. The extensive global military occupation forces will be defunded. European countries have absorbed a lot of hurt over the years, but what is now being arranged is the suicidal loss of Russian gas in winter, which will hurt them far more than it will bother Russia.
    America’s real adversaries are its European and other allies: The U.S. aim is to keep them from trading with China and Russia

    America’s real adversaries are its European and other allies: The U.S. aim is to keep them from trading with China and Russia

    French President Macron had a marathon meeting yesterday with Russian President Putin
    Just before flying to Moscow Macron had pointed out in a weekend interview with Le Journal du Dimanche that “The geopolitical objective of Russia today is clearly not Ukraine, but to clarify the rules of cohabitation with NATO and the EU.”
    Macron looked very tense and anxious to me, over performing and grasping the arms of his chair rigidly. Putin was relaxed and gracious , as usual. Macron stated his intent as damage-control, prevention of worsening the current situation (aka “avoid war this month”) and said that he could not act unilaterally. (He CAN keep France out of a war with Russia in Ukraine, though). France gets about 25% of natural gas from Russia, is short on reserves and can’t do without it in winter.
    France sees the good deal on gas that Hungary just got extended to 2035. Macron faces increasingly stiff competition for the April elections he faces. Macron and Putin spoke positively of the meeting as a “good beginning” kind of thing. Macron needs good press and some kind of a good deal on natural gas.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/putin-warns-no-winners-nuclear-armed-conflict-agrees-work-macron-peace-proposals

    This is a very strong joint statement of unity against the Western Empire on all fronts, very strong, and does not even mention Iran…
    A trilateral statement might be made in the nearish future..
    Unpacking the Russian-Chinese joint statement

    Unpacking the Russian-Chinese joint statement

    ​This is the kind of breaking-off-pieces that would facilitate unseating of the $US based global military-financial regime.
    Russia, China and Iran can already trade without $US.
    ​Trapped in IMF debt, Argentina turns to Russia and joins China’s Belt & Road
    Argentina is trapped in $44 billion of IMF odious debt taken on by corrupt right-wing regimes. Seeking alternatives to US hegemony, President Alberto Fernández traveled to Russia and China, forming an alliance with the Eurasian powers, joining the Belt and Road Initiative.

    Trapped in IMF debt, Argentina turns to Russia and joins China’s Belt & Road

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