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George Caleb Bingham The verdict of the people 1854

 

Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccine Becomes First To Win FDA’s Full Approval (USAT)
Does The FDA Think These Data Justify Approval Of A Covid-19 Vaccine? (BMJ)
Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load (McCullough)
FDA Ignores Both Science and Law (Denninger)
Pfizer and Moderna Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group (CTH)
Everything You Need to Know About Informed Consent (21CW)
Statistical Fraud in the FDA Vaccine Approval Process (JoshM)
The More Masks Fail, The More We Need Them (Ian)
Pentagon To Mandate Covid-19 Vaccinations For All Military Personnel (RT)
NYC Orders 150,000 Teachers & School Staff To Get Vaccinated (ZH)
Truckers Threaten To Shut Down Australia Due to Covid Insanity (OI)
Keeping Fear Alive (Tierney)
Throwdowns and Showdowns (Kunstler)

 

 

It’s been an insane 24 hours. You’d think a full approval of a vaccine would be a straightforward event, but the FDA just made things more, and extremely, complicated. First, a few bits and pieces from what they issued:

 

 

“COMIRNATY is the first COVID-19 vaccine to be granted FDA approval ”
also:
“These may not be all the possible side effects of the vaccine. Serious and unexpected side effects may occur. THE VACCINE IS STILL BEING STUDIED IN CLINICAL TRIALS.”

 

 

On August 23, 2021, FDA approved the biologics license application (BLA) submitted by BioNTech Manufacturing GmbH for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) for active immunization to prevent COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older…

…the EUA will remain in place for the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for the previously-authorized indication and uses, and to authorize use of COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) under this EUA for certain uses that are not included in the approved BLA…

COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is the same formulation as the PfizerBioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine and can be used interchangeably with the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to provide the COVID-19 vaccination series…

 

 

C. There is no adequate, approved, and available [see Note 9] alternative to the emergency use of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID 19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19.

[Note 9:] Although COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) is approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 16 years of age and older, there is not sufficient approved vaccine available for distribution to this population in its entirety at the time of reissuance of this EUA. Additionally, there are no products that are approved to prevent COVID-19 in individuals age 12 through 15, or that are approved to provide an additional dose to the immunocompromised population described in this EUA.

 

 

Conditions Related to Printed Matter, Advertising, and Promotion

X. All descriptive printed matter, advertising, and promotional material, relating to the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID 19 Vaccine shall be consistent with the authorized labeling, as well as the terms set forth in this EUA, and meet the requirements set forth in section 502(a) and (n) of the FD&C Act and FDA implementing regulations.

Y. All descriptive printed matter, advertising, and promotional material relating to the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID 19 Vaccine clearly and conspicuously shall state that:

” This product has not been approved or licensed by FDA, but has been authorized for emergency use by FDA, under an EUA to prevent Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) for use in individuals 12 years of age and older; and

” The emergency use of this product is only authorized for the duration of the declaration that circumstances exist justifying the authorization of emergency use of the medical product under Section 564(b)(1) of the FD&C Act unless the declaration is terminated or authorization revoked sooner.

 

 

The original documents. Just check the dates. What happened to those?

 

 

Two high vaccination rates: Iceland Full Vaxxed 74%, Israel 62%

 

 

“The Pfizer-BioNTech emergency use authorization was based on clinical trials involving about 37,000 people.”

Well, not really, because they stopped those trials.

Pfizer-BioNTech Vaccine Becomes First To Win FDA’s Full Approval (USAT)

Eight months after authorizing the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for emergency use in the USA, the Food and Drug Administration issued its full stamp of approval. Now that the companies’ detailed, so-called biologics license application has been granted, it’s likely that vaccination will be required by many companies, schools and other entities. The FDA decision clears the way for the companies to market their vaccine, which is not permitted without full licensure. And it may launch a race for booster shots, allowing doctors to prescribe extra Pfizer-BioNTech shots “off label” to anyone they think should get one. The FDA confirmed late last year through a more streamlined evaluation process that the vaccine, from pharmaceutical giant Pfizer and its partner, German startup BioNTech, was safe, effective and could be reliably produced.

The review of the 340,000-page license application was completed in just 97 days by FDA staff working “night and day,” said Dr. Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, which approves vaccines “We completed this in about 40% of the normal clock time for a submission of this magnitude,” he said. The license application was three times the size of the emergency use authorization submission, which weighed in at 110,000 pages. The companies have manufactured more than 2 billion doses, more than 200 million of which were administered in the USA, the most of any of the three vaccines allowed for use in the country. The full license includes four more months of efficacy and safety data, confirming trial results and detailing manufacturing processes.

The Pfizer-BioNTech emergency use authorization was based on clinical trials involving about 37,000 people. The full approval was based on study results involving more than 44,000 people followed for six months. The license applies only to those 16 and over, but the vaccine is allowed for those 12 to 15 under the previous authorization. “Based on the longer-term follow-up data that we submitted, today’s approval for those aged 16 and over affirms the efficacy and safety profile of our vaccine at a time when it is urgently needed,” Pfizer chairman and CEO Albert Bourla said in a statement. “I am hopeful this approval will help increase confidence in our vaccine, as vaccination remains the best tool we have to help protect lives and achieve herd immunity.”

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Not sure it’s a great idea for the FDA to have pissed off Peter Doshi, senior editor at The BMJ, one of the most reputable magazines around. Much more at the original (link).

Does The FDA Think These Data Justify Approval Of A Covid-19 Vaccine? (BMJ)

On 28 July 2021, Pfizer and BioNTech posted updated results for their ongoing phase 3 covid-19 vaccine trial. The preprint came almost a year to the day after the historical trial commenced, and nearly four months since the companies announced vaccine efficacy estimates “up to six months.” But you won’t find 10 month follow-up data here. While the preprint is new, the results it contains aren’t particularly up to date. In fact, the paper is based on the same data cut-off date (13 March 2021) as the 1 April press release, and its topline efficacy result is identical: 91.3% (95% CI 89.0 to 93.2) vaccine efficacy against symptomatic covid-19 through “up to six months of follow-up.” The 20 page preprint matters because it represents the most detailed public account of the pivotal trial data Pfizer submitted in pursuit of the world’s first “full approval” of a coronavirus vaccine from the Food and Drug Administration. It deserves careful scrutiny.

[..] The elephant named “waning immunity”…“Waning immunity” is a known problem for influenza vaccines, with some studies showing near zero effectiveness after just three months, meaning a vaccine taken early may ultimately provide no protection by the time “flu season” arrives some months later. If vaccine efficacy wanes over time, the crucial question becomes what level of effectiveness will the vaccine provide when a person is actually exposed to the virus? Unlike covid vaccines, influenza vaccine performance has always been judged over a full season, not a couple months. And so the recent reports from Israel’s Ministry of Health caught my eye. In early July, they reported that efficacy against infection and symptomatic disease “fell to 64%.” By late July it had fallen to 39% where Delta is the dominant strain. This is very low. For context, the FDA’s expectation is of “at least 50%” efficacy for any approvable vaccine.

Delta may not be responsible Enter Pfizer’s preprint. As an RCT reporting “up to six months of follow-up,” it is notable that evidence of waning immunity was already visible in the data by the 13 March 2021 data cut-off… And it’s hard to imagine how the Delta variant could play a real role here, for 77% of trial participants were from the United States, where Delta was not established until months after data cut-off. Waning efficacy has the potential to be far more than a minor inconvenience; it can dramatically change the risk-benefit calculus.

The “six month” preprint based on the 7% of trial participants who remained blinded at six months Despite the reference to “six month safety and efficacy” in the preprint’s title, the paper only reports on vaccine efficacy “up to six months,” but not from six months. This is not semantics, as it turns out only 7% of trial participants actually reached six months of blinded follow-up (“8% of BNT162b2 recipients and 6% of placebo recipients had ≥6 months follow-up post-dose 2.”) So despite this preprint appearing a year after the trial began, it provides no data on vaccine efficacy past six months, which is the period Israel says vaccine efficacy has dropped to 39%. It is hard to imagine that the <10% of trial participants who remained blinded at six months (which presumably further dwindled after 13 March 2021) could constitute a reliable or valid sample to produce further findings.

Severe disease And on preventing death from covid-19, there are too few data to draw conclusions—a total of three covid-19 related deaths (one on vaccine, two on placebo). There were 29 total deaths during blinded follow-up (15 in the vaccine arm; 14 in placebo). The crucial question, however, is whether the waning efficacy seen in the primary endpoint data also applies to the vaccine’s efficacy against severe disease. Unfortunately, Pfizer’s new preprint does not report the results in a way that allows for evaluating this question.

Approval imminent without data transparency, or even an advisory committee meeting? …But here we are, with FDA reportedly on the verge of granting a marketing license 13 months into the still ongoing, two year pivotal trial, with no reported data past 13 March 2021, unclear efficacy after six months due to unblinding, evidence of waning protection irrespective of the Delta variant, and limited reporting of safety data. (The preprint reports “decreased appetite, lethargy, asthenia, malaise, night sweats, and hyperhidrosis were new adverse events attributable to BNT162b2 not previously identified in earlier reports,” but provides no data tables showing the frequency of these, or other, adverse events.) It’s not helping matters that FDA now says it won’t convene its advisory committee to discuss the data ahead of approving Pfizer’s vaccine. (Last August, to address vaccine hesitancy, the agency had “committed to use an advisory committee composed of independent experts to ensure deliberations about authorization or licensure are transparent for the public.”)

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“..the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders.”

Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load (McCullough)

A groundbreaking preprint paper by the prestigious Oxford University Clinical Research Group, published Aug. 10 in The Lancet, includes alarming findings devastating to the COVID vaccine rollout. The study found vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated. While moderating the symptoms of infection, the jab allows vaccinated individuals to carry unusually high viral loads without becoming ill at first, potentially transforming them into presymptomatic superspreaders. This phenomenon may be the source of the shocking post-vaccination surges in heavily vaccinated populations globally. The paper’s authors, Chau et al, demonstrated widespread vaccine failure and transmission under tightly controlled circumstances in a hospital lockdown in Ho Chi Minh City, Viet Nam.

The scientists studied healthcare workers who were unable to leave the hospital for two weeks. The data showed that fully vaccinated workers — about two months after injection with the Oxford/AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine (AZD1222) — acquired, carried and presumably transmitted the Delta variant to their vaccinated colleagues. They almost certainly also passed the Delta infection to susceptible unvaccinated people, including their patients. Sequencing of strains confirmed the workers transmitted SARS-CoV-2 to one another. = This is consistent with the observations in the U.S. from Farinholt and colleagues, and congruent with comments by the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention conceding COVID-19 vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

On Feb. 11, the World Health Organization indicated the AZD1222 vaccine efficacy of 63.09% against the development of symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection. The conclusions of the Chau paper support the warnings by leading medical experts that the partial, non-sterilizing immunity from the three notoriously “leaky” COVID-19 vaccines allow carriage of 251 times the viral load of SARS-CoV-2 as compared to samples from the pre-vaccination era in 2020. Thus, we have a key piece to the puzzle explaining why the Delta outbreak is so formidable — fully vaccinated are participating as COVID-19 patients and acting as powerful Typhoid Mary-style super-spreaders of the infection.

Vaccinated individuals are blasting out concentrated viral explosions into their communities and fueling new COVID surges. Vaccinated healthcare workers are almost certainly infecting their coworkers and patients, causing horrendous collateral damage. Continued vaccination will only make this problem worse, particularly among frontline doctors and nurses workers who are caring for vulnerable patients. Health systems should drop vaccine mandates immediately, take stock of COVID-19 recovered workers who are robustly immune to Delta and consider the ramifications of their current vaccinated healthcare workers as potential threats to high risk patients and coworkers.

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“..prior infection and recovery produces durable and stable immunity in essentially everyone who has a competent immune system..”

FDA Ignores Both Science and Law (Denninger)

So the FDA has “fully approved” the Pfizer jab for Covid. In doing so standing alone they have broken the law and thus have irrevocably destroyed their authority and any reason for anyone to ever do anything based on them ever again. Let me explain. Under black letter law an EUA is illegal if there is an alternative that is considered safe, effective and available. This was the reason the FDA did not (for 18 months!) run the studies and evaluate them on other early-intervention drugs for Covid-19. We all know what they are. I’m living proof they work too, as are millions of others worldwide. But, more-importantly, this “full approval” voids all other vaccine EUAs for Covid-19. That is, under the law the Moderna and J&J instantly became illegal to offer or use within the United States.

The makers can apply for full authorization, of course, but the EUAs are void as of this morning and under black letter law cannot be administered to anyone in the United States as they are now unlicensed and unlawful products in human beings until and unless they are given full approval themselves. No medical provider can offer or administer any other than the Pfizer Covid-19 shot in the United States as of the moment of that approval. You can bet the law will be ignored; note MRNAs stock price this morning. It should have instantly been cut in half. In addition the FDA broke the law itself when it issued the “approval.” The law requires a full hearing and the data from the full set of trials; the trials are not capable of being completed until early 2022 by the original submissions and they deliberately did not hold the hearing. This is a black letter violation of the law as well, but nobody cares.

As for me, I don’t give a crap. I’ve been infected, 98% certain it was Delta (because that’s all that’s circulating right now in the US where the index case I got infected by came from, and I know who it was) and am recovered. I hit it with meds immediately and I’m fine. I know, scientifically, it was Covid-19 and not some other virus as I now have IgG antibodies and did not for the previous 18 months which I know factually as I repeatedly tested myself. There is thus exactly zero medical benefit I can derive from the jabs. I will walk without fear into a Covid-19 ICU unit right now without any PPE on whatsoever.

I have no fear of this virus because as with every other viral infection of note including those that are much more-dangerous than Covid, such as measles, prior infection and recovery produces durable and stable immunity in essentially everyone who has a competent immune system, and I do. Those of you who trust the jabs to be equally effective to an active infection and recovery are free to come with me. I will bet my life that I’m sterile immune to the virus as a result of said infection and recovery. Are you willing to place the same bet, given the many known failures to protect by the shot, including Jesse Jackson and his wife, both of whom are in the hospital with Covid-19 despite being vaccinated in a very public spectacle in January of this year? There you have it.

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“..the FDA will grant approval on results that were intentionally constructed to produce only one outcome.”

Pfizer and Moderna Lost The Clinical Trial Control Group (CTH)

According to the New York Times and multiple media outlets, Pfizer is expected to get full FDA approval today. “The move would make it the first Covid vaccine to go from emergency use authorization to full FDA approval.” With that in mind, it is worth a reminder that both Pfizer and Moderna stopped the clinical trials the FDA was using in their review: The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine.

Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues. Without a control group there is nothing to compare the vaccinated group against. According to NPR, the doctors lost the control group in the Johnson County Clinicial Trial (Lexena, Kansas) on purpose: “(Via NPR) […] “Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine. “During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine,” he says, “and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that.” He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study. “It’s a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it’s the right thing to do,” he says.

People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots. Just so we are clear, the final FDA authorization and approval for the vaccines are based on the outcome of these trials. As noted in the example above, the control group was intentionally lost under the auspices of “the right thing to do”, so there is no way for the efficacy, effectiveness or safety of the vaccine itself to be measured. There’s no one left within the control group, of a statistically valid value, to give an adequate comparison of outcomes for vaxxed -vs- non-vaxxed. This is nuts. That NPR article is one to bookmark when people start claiming the vaccination is effective. How can the vaccine not be considered effective when there is no group of non-vaccinated people to compare the results to?

Good grief, the entire healthcare system is operating on a massive hive mindset where science, and the scientific method, is thrown out the window in favor of ideological outcomes and self-fulfilling prophecies. The fact that the researchers and doctors, apparently under the payroll of the pharmaceutical companies that have a vested financial interest in the vaccine outcome, lost the control group on purpose is alarming. Of course, Big Pharma will promote the vaccine as beneficial, and the controlled media will promote that message with a complete disconnect from the clinical trial details, and the FDA will grant approval on results that were intentionally constructed to produce only one outcome.

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Another video on informed consent is way below. Also from Canada.

Everything You Need to Know About Informed Consent (21CW)

In Canada, informed consent to medical interventions – including vaccines – is the law. The same is true in the US, UK, EU, Australia, and New Zealand. But these governments, along with corrupt drug regulators, are now running roughshod over what were once sacrosanct laws prohibiting misleading and coercive medical procedures, and instead have unleashed a multibillion dollar media campaign of fear and mass-panic designed to pave-over the right to informed consent.

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“Vaccine A is quite safe, and vaccine B is extremely dangerous. And yet the formula for PRR will produce the same result for vaccine A and B!”

Statistical Fraud in the FDA Vaccine Approval Process (JoshM)

There are several systems for reporting vaccine reactions, including deaths, but the only one available to the public is VAERS. It is incomplete, because it relies on voluntary reporting, there is no incentive to report to VAERS, and it is a cumbersome process. We may compare reports of the COVID vaccines to past years, when there were also hundreds of millions of vaccinations, including annual flu shots and childhood vaccine schedules. The comparison is dramatic. There were more than twice as many deaths related to the COVID vaccines this year as the sum total of all vaccine deaths in the 30-year history of VAERS. Given this safety record, how is there any possibility of approval? Here is where the statistical fraud comes in. [I am grateful to have been alerted to this situation by Matthew Crawford]

The safety criterion they have chosen is an obscure computation called PRR for Proportional Reporting Ratio. As the name implies, it is based on RATIOS of different event types and is utterly blind to the ABSOLUTE RATE of such events. PRR measures the distribution of different kinds of adverse events, e.g. blood clots, heart attacks, and deaths. If those ratios are severely out of line with the great variety of vaccine reactions in the past, PRR would detect that. For example, if the new vaccines caused an extraordinary risk of myocarditis, but everything else was low, then PRR would flag that. But if myocarditis was just one risk among many that have been reported from past vaccines, then PRR would not pick that up.

The real scandal is that PRR is blind to the absolute risk numbers. PRR is defined in such a way as to look for unusual PATTERNS of adverse events, but it is completely insensitive to unusual RATES of adverse events. Of course, it is the rates and not the patterns that are of primary concern, and the PRR is designed NOT to reflect that.

For example, suppose we have 2 vaccines:

Vaccine A has 1 reported death per million vaccinations, 3 reported heart attacks per million, and 20 reported headaches per million.

Vaccine B has 1 reported death per hundred vaccinations, 3 reported heart attacks per hundred, and 20 reported headaches per hundred.

Vaccine A is quite safe, and vaccine B is extremely dangerous. And yet the formula for PRR will produce the same result for vaccine A and B!

Clearly, PRR is not an appropriate criterion for evaluating safety of any particular vaccine. Someone has arranged to cook the books.

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“Regardless of the anti-science, despicable pieces regularly appearing in those outlets, such as suggesting that actually, masking kids is good for their learning ability.”

The More Masks Fail, The More We Need Them (Ian)

The push for masking, as always, boils down to a combination of incompetence, cowardice, fear, and political pressure. Experts enjoy the ability to be seen as “doing something,” and must never appear to be “anti-mask,” since it would immediately discredit them in the eyes of their peers, the greater scientific community and their ideological compatriots. Politicians want the “get out of jail free” card that masking provides; the opportunity to blame others for poor results. The “it would have worked if you’d all just listened to me” line of defense. The media simply outsources all critical thinking to like-minded ideologues and refuses to acknowledge or take seriously the few brave experts willing to tell the truth.

And as a result, corporations, whose decision makers are exclusively influenced by the same media sources, like The New York Times, follow right along. Regardless of the anti-science, despicable pieces regularly appearing in those outlets, such as suggesting that actually, masking kids is good for their learning ability. But everywhere you look, the cultural groupthink is dramatically failing. Counties and states following the CDC’s new guidance are not succeeding, and those ignoring it are faring no worse. Locations that never removed masks, such as Hawaii and Japan, are seeing their highest numbers of the pandemic, but manage to escape the vitriol and hatred leveled at Ron DeSantis because they’re following orders and implementing what the hive mind of acceptable opinion mandates.


The dramatic, predictable failure resulting from the CDC’s science-ending reversal would, in a sane world, be cause for intellectually honest experts to revisit their guidance and accept that their efforts to “control” infections is always doomed to fail. But naturally, we’re seeing the exact opposite. The more masks fail, the more we need them.

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One third has said they won’t comply. Maybe this is where the real fight will happen.

Pentagon To Mandate Covid-19 Vaccinations For All Military Personnel (RT)

The Pentagon has said it will update its own guidance on Covid-19 vaccinations, mandating the jab for all military personnel, following the US drug regulator’s decision to fully approve the Pfizer vaccine. Speaking on Monday, US Department of Defense spokesman John Kirby said the military was aware of the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) decision to fully approve the Pfizer vaccine for use in people over 16, and was preparing to issue updated guidance to all service personnel. “We’re going to move forward making that vaccine mandatory,” Kirby told reporters. “We’re preparing the guidance to the force right now,” he stated, adding that the exact timetable for mandating the jab was still being worked out. Earlier on Monday, the FDA announced that the Pfizer jab had been fully approved for use in the US.


The shot has been administered under emergency-use authorization since mid-December 2020. The FDA added that the Pfizer vaccine will retain its emergency-use authorization for use in adolescents and for those requiring a third dose due to other health conditions. Earlier in August, the Washington Post reported that around 65% of active-duty military personnel were fully vaccinated, compared to around 59% of eligible Americans. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin has previously encouraged all military personnel to get vaccinated against Covid. “To defend this nation, we need a healthy and ready force. I strongly encourage all DoD military and civilian personnel – as well as contractor personnel – to get vaccinated now and for military service members to not wait for the mandate,” Austin stated earlier in August.

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“I do not expect a staffing shortage,” Porter said.”

NYC Orders 150,000 Teachers & School Staff To Get Vaccinated (ZH)

As the NYT explained, education staffers are the first group of city workers to face a full vaccine mandate. The announcement also opens the door to a broader vaccine mandate of city workers, which the mayor said Monday the city was considering. Last month, Mayor Bill de Blasio issued a mandate for city workers that allowed for those unvaccinated to submit for weekly coronavirus testing. “We know this is going to help ensure that everyone is safe,” Mr. de Blasio said during a news conference on Monday, adding that city schools had extremely low virus transmission last year. The mandate, the mayor said, will help the city “build on that success.”

While the mayor’s push is likely to prove unpopular with many rank-and-file members; the city’s teacher’s unions, and unions representing other DoE staff, have signed off on the new mandate (though they’re still negotiating about what might happen to workers who continue to refuse). UFT President Michael Mulgrew acknowledged that the city had the legal right to impose the mandate, but he told reporters details were still being hashed out. The city announced last month that any teacher who failed to comply with both the vaccination requirement, and the required weekly testing for those who didn’t get the jab, would be suspended without pay.

“While the city is asserting its legal authority to establish this mandate, there are many implementation details, including provisions for medical exceptions, that by law must be negotiated with the U.F.T. and other unions, and if necessary, resolved by arbitration,” Mr. Mulgrew said in a statement. Mayor de Blasio has insisted that even if negotiations stall, the mandate will still be implemented. Meisha Porter, the chancellor of NYC’s schools, said she expects a high level of compliance from school staff on the mandate. “I do not expect a staffing shortage,” Porter said.

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No clue how serious this is, but it’s a good idea.

Truckers Threaten To Shut Down Australia Due to Covid Insanity (OI)

Australia seems to be in the grips of COVID-induced insanity as people across the country are vigorously protesting against the lockdown measures imposed to curb the spread of the renewed bout of coronavirus outbreak. After violent ruckus witnessed on the streets of major Australian cities, including Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne, and dogs shot dead by a rural council in New South Wales to prevent volunteers from travelling during Covid restrictions, Australian truck drivers have threatened to shut down major highways across the country as a mark of protest against Covid lockdowns. Social media websites are awash with a video of a truck driver who said in his video that truck drivers are ‘planning to shut down the country’ to ‘remove the s*** government’.


He further warned the Aussies that their demonstration could end up choking supply chains and urged them to stock up on groceries to get them through the next couple of weeks. “It’s on. The truckies are doing it. The truckies are going to shut down the country,’ the man says in the video. What that means is you need to go shopping now, get what you can for the next week or two, load your fridge, freezers,” the truck driver could be seen saying in the video.

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“The same progressives who regularly denounce “systemic racism” and “Western imperialism” are now enforcing policies that disproportionately punish minorities and the poor..”

Keeping Fear Alive (Tierney)

Throughout the pandemic, American political and public-health leaders have been following Rahm Emanuel’s classic dictum for power-seeking officials: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.” Now they’ve adopted a corollary: you never want a crisis to end. So they are prolonging the national misery instead of easing it, which could be done with a few simple strategies. Explain to the public that the virus will never disappear but is no longer a mortal threat to the vast majority of Americans. Encourage the minority still at risk to get vaccinated by honestly discussing who is in jeopardy and what scientists have learned about infections. Promote treatments proven to prevent infection and speed recovery while avoiding unproven treatments and mandates that cause collateral damage and generate mistrust.

Above all, make it clear to Americans that we finally have reason to celebrate: what once seemed an unprecedented danger is now just one of many pathogens that we know how to live with. But the nation’s crisismongers aren’t about to relinquish their hold over the public, so they’ve set new goals that are as unachievable as they are unnecessary and harmful. Making vaccines available to every American adult is no longer sufficient; now the crisis cannot end until the entire population has been vaccinated. Instead of focusing efforts on vaccinating the vulnerable, officials obsess on compelling universal obedience, even if that means squandering vaccines on people who already have acquired natural immunity or are at minimal risk of serious illness.

The same progressives who regularly denounce “systemic racism” and “Western imperialism” are now enforcing policies that disproportionately punish minorities and the poor, both in the United States (the majority of black teenagers and young adults in New York have been banished from much of public life by the city’s new vaccine-passport policy) and in the rest of the world. The hypocrisy was deftly captured in a tweet by Martin Kulldorff, the Harvard epidemiologist: “If you favor university vaccine mandates for low-risk American and European students, when there is not enough vaccine for older high-risk people in Asia, Africa and Latin America, please remove your #BLM tags from your Twitter/Facebook profiles.”

Children are being sentenced to another round of unnecessary mask mandates and probably more school closures based on evidence-free warnings from Anthony Fauci and others that the Delta variant will be more deadly to them than the original virus. While the variant is more infectious, the evidence does not show it to be any more lethal. In fact, the current mortality rate among American children with Covid is lower than it was last year—and last year many more children died of the flu than of Covid. One of the most thorough studies, in England, shows that the survival rate for those under 18 with Covid is 99.995 percent. But instead of emphasizing these reassuring statistics, public-health officials like Jerome Adams, the surgeon general, keep looking for new ways to scare parents and children.

“I’m an anesthesiologist,” he tweeted last weekend. “And a dad. And I can assure you in both capacities that your child will be far more comfortable if they’re in a face mask, than on a ventilator. If you’re making a choice on behalf of a child, please choose based on their comfort, vs yours.” He offered no new evidence that children are at heightened risk from the virus, much less any evidence that a mask would make any difference, but he did make sure to include a gruesome photograph of a child on a ventilator. It was a new low in public-health demagoguery, but unfortunately not so different from the fearmongering of other officials, the press, and social-media platforms. They lament that a minority of the public remains reluctant to get vaccinated without recognizing that their own tactics are a likely a chief cause of this reluctance. They have been misleading people for so long—and censoring challenges to their misinformation—that it’s no wonder polls show that an overwhelming majority of unvaccinated Americans say they don’t trust Fauci or the CDC.

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“Britain and France managed to get their nationals out last week, only to be rebuked by American brass for “making us look bad.” That helped, I’m sure.”

Throwdowns and Showdowns (Kunstler)

Notice, there are two sets of hostages in this phase of what looks like an engineered US collapse: the thousands of stranded Americans who can’t get out of Afghanistan thanks to the history-rockin’ ineptitude of “Joe Biden,” Tony Blinken, and General Mark Milley, and the millions of We-the-People back home whose minds are hostage to the narratives concocted in a shadowland of sinister governance. Welcome to a week of throwdowns and showdowns, a force majeure of mind change. A strange paralysis in the Pentagon has prevented the use of US power to clear an escape corridor to Kabul’s airport and establish order in the facility — this, after the tactically mystifying decision to abandon the US Bagram military airfield, a good twenty miles outside of festering Kabul, and surrounded by more easily-securable empty desert.

Britain and France managed to get their nationals out last week, only to be rebuked by American brass for “making us look bad.” That helped, I’m sure. And then how long can the stranded Americans even stay hidden and alive? They have to eat. Either they come out of their hidey-holes and get to some market, or they would (theoretically) have to send some Afghani servants to fetch them supplies, But, what Afghani in his right mind would want to be caught in service to the Americans by the Taliban? That quandary must have a pretty short time-horizon on it. Standing by to see how it works out….

Next in this week’s throwdown parade is the FDA’s imminent approval of Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine, without any of the usual extensive trials. How does that even happen, with an efficacy rate of 39 percent maximum and a runaway train of vicious side effects ranging from brain and heart damage to infertility? The so-called mRNA “vaccines” are also implicated in the ongoing mutation of the disease, producing a cavalcade of variants. Is that, perhaps, on-purpose, to keep the pandemic going, preventing it from burning-out?

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  • #85194
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Maher guest:

    “‘I know I’m in your house,’ Rose told Maher, ‘I’m not trying to step over the line here, but genuinely, genuinely, people’s lives are on the line – and just as significantly our very way of life is on the line here.”

    I don’t know about a fragging moment if he’s not squashing this BS. The “our way of life” Bush canard. We must get vaxxed for the private jet set, see? Their way of life is at risk, along with Pfizer stock.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9921117/Bill-Maher-says-hell-REFUSE-COVID-booster-saying-vaccine-one-team.html

    #85195
    Noirette
    Participant

    Pfizer First!! re. FDA approval – no mystery there, it is the top Co. for paying for corruption in the Anglo world. Take that as a wild accusation for which I have no proof. It was obvious from the start that Astra Zeneca was low man on the pole… and had difficulty getting approved see for ex (link 1) and was bashed for side effects etc. So, contentions similar to ‘regular commercial fights’ as between phone Cos., Mega Food Cos, Airlines, etc.

    See the vax propaganda, or publicity, advertising, which should not apply to public health or health care. Vaxxes have joined the fantastic image boosting moves directed to the plebs (deplorables), via Celebs, social media, Gvmt adverts, etc. Completely divorced from what used to be national health considerations, created and upheld by Gvmts, the expertise / controls that used to be relied on, Docs in the practices /clinics, public health, FDA – CDC type institutions — imperfect for sure, and the rot is not new.. But total overtake, via corruption, has been achieved.

    This one ex. jumped to mind, it may seem beside the point, nobody will click —- make of it whatever. 2015. The Bulgari perfumed man meets snake, hawk, lion – and walks, a proud sharp step elegant walk — not a casual stroll. It is only one minute.

    Of course Pfizer and others can’t go there with images and speech etc. “love and take the vax” – some weak semblance of seriousness, expertise, probity, is still marginally maintained.

    https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/data-on-astrazeneca-vaccine-insufficient-for-swiss-approval/46458408

    #85196
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Apparently we are amidst a global currency war. The pandemic is being used to engineer and market a transition per the central bankers great reset. For those who wish to preserve sovereignty and freedom here is a 5 minute video that may be of interest

    [video src="https://tube.solari.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/The-State-of-Our-Currencies-Just-a-Taste.mp4" /]

    #85197
    Eric Blair
    Participant

    I watched the Mark Crispin Miller interview linked in yesterday’s comments #85085 (thanks my parents said). I like Miller, having read his Bush Dyslexicon some 15 yrs earlier and watched part 1&2 of his 2020: A Propaganda Masterpiece videos. I find his arguments well presented, cogent, logical, commonsensical and myself readily agreeing with him. Yet, there it was, the big unexpected swerve at 57:15 where he acknowledges environmental pollution, but not CO2 increase, and then goes on to dismiss Greta Thunberg as a “eugenics tool.” Greta Thunberg has been swift-boated and Al-Gored because her great-grandfather, the scientist Svante Arrhenius, “invented” global warming when in 1896 he established a connection between fossil energy use and the warming planet. Remember when Al Gore was ridiculed for claiming he “invented” the internet when what he actually did as senator was secure the funds to make the internet, up to then used primarily by scientists, available to us all?
    It boggles the mind that someone like Miller who has examined propaganda his entire career does not see the parallels. He is blind to his own blinders. And his host doesn’t challenge him. I’m 100% with you, he says. Myself, I can only be 90% with him. I’ll still listen to him but more carefully examine what he says, putting to good use his own prescription of how to detect propaganda.
    The challenge is to examine not the person, but the argument. Isn’t that ad hominem (latin for “directed at the man”)? Haven’t you lost the argument when you do that? Yet here is Miller doing just that. Discrediting Greta Thunberg (and what she stands for) because her great-grandfather “invented” (aka made it up) global warming, pushing aside with one fell swoop the almost total disappearance of Arctic ice, crumbling Antarctic ice sheets, thawing tundra, coral reef dieoffs, droughts, floods, heat waves, fires, not to mention the fact that CO2 levels are measurably up?
    The world, collectively, has taken leave of their senses, including highly educated, intelligent, sensible, GOOD people. Our sense of reality, formerly shared sense of reality, is splintering, breaking apart. I read somewhere that when we talk to our neighbor, even inconsequential small talk about the weather, serves to confirm our shared sense of reality. Does my neighbor see the same things I see? Is the weather really as bad as I think it is? There are somewhere bushmen who even make the act of going to the bathroom a shared experience (they go into the bushes in pairs) so as not to lose their sense of shared reality (according to the anthropologist). Then again, the Romans also took collective shits, although I doubt it was to preserve their sense of shared reality, but rather to gossip and broker backroom deals.

    #85198
    zerosum
    Participant

    context left out of the discussions here.

    The Taliban want the USA out of Afghanistan by Aug 31
    It can be done.
    Therefore, we assume that all evacuation stops, that the equipment gets donated or destroyed.

    Wrong.

    The evacuations can continue.
    There will still be security, and operation at the airport that can be carried out by all the other military forces on site.
    (Canadian, German, etc)
    Its called lying by omission and false flag.

    #85199
    IRunInTheSand
    Participant

    Germ,

    Would you please send me an email with the contact info for the person you use in India to purchase Ivermectin?

    [email protected]

    I’m having trouble getting my order placed through IndiaMart using the Wise.com payment system.

    Thank you very much.

    Robert Campbell
    San Diego, CA

    PS: I want to purchase 100 ivermectin tablets @ 6 mg each. Is that the proper for daily use? Is that enough?

    #85200
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “proud boys members have legitimate grievances that are being scapegoated onto folks of differing skin color.”

    Except that the person in question is Black, Afro-cuban. So are many others, although I understand the portion of Hispanic is higher. …Whatever that word means. Mostly nothing, it means “Divide”. So he’s scapegoating himself? Nah, you blink and the white wall of lies gets in, the premise that the Proud Boys actually ARE White Supremacists, run by a black man, in coordination with Larry Elder, Candice Owens, and Bobby Jindal. Obviously the black people are Joe Biden, Gavin Newsome, and Bill Clinton, I hear. They’re helping the black community (38%, most unvaccinated) against the holdouts of the Fox-watching GOP (older and statistically 93.6% vaccinated) https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker

    Should I go on about Political Ironies, everything said is a lie?

    #85201
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ Eric Blair
    I, too, have watched amazed at the vitriol unleashed against Greta Thunberg, a teen girl with Aspergers who decided to take a stand. Does she fully understand all of the ramifications? Or course not — a teen girl. Have her views been influenced by her family? Of course — a teen girl. Are her words and actions being suborned by large corporations, NGOs, and globalists to support their own agendas? Of course — that is what they do. Does Greta Thunberg fully comprehend how she is being used by these large organizations? Of course not — a teen girl.
    Kudos for her — a teen girl — in standing up for her convictions.
    Shame on the corporations, NGOs, globalists, etc., using her actions and words to further her own agenda.
    Do either her words and actions or the words and actions of the global players in any way change or diminish our crumbling ecology?
    No. But they serve the globalists well to distract us all. It is our Responsibility to not be distracted and to focus on reality — not the responsibility of a teen girl.

    #85202
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ Dr D
    Gah…I obviously didn’t read the articles as deeply as you. :/
    I can substitute the people with darker skin color simply with BLM adherents, which the proud boys are not. Regardless, some redress is in order for the stealing, vandalism, and property destruction. The punishments common to our legal system don’t address the underlying issues. Shakespeare understood this in R&J. A more recent illustration is in West Side Story. Tit for tat tends to escalate the problem, the “prince” or policing notwithstanding.

    #85203

    Riiiight, Raul. I left that out, didn’t I?

    Never said you did, quoted your quote verbatim, you just never said he worked for the FBI since 2012, thought that needed an emphasis. If you wish to be some kind of adverse voice here, fine, but please try harder.

    #85204
    Bill7
    Participant

    Good stuff, John Day. We left Pendleton in ’63 (I think) when my Dad didn’t re-up. My parents
    used to call our housing there “Cockroach Estates”, though maybe everyone did. 😉

    #85205
    citizenx
    Participant

    @deflationista

    Authorities and anonymous experts say The -Washington- Bezos Post has reported that the US Regime denounced itself for Crimes against Humanity and committing War Crimes globally for centuries. The Bezos Post reports that the Regime admits to lying, cheating, coercing, raping, torture, invading, bombing, overthrowing, brainwashing its own citizens and random cases of international propaganda.

    The Regime has now embraced a new Rainbow Flag with the logo Black Lies Matter in an attempt to regain consumer confidence of it’s self tarnished fake news reputation.

    #85206
    Bill7
    Participant

    “You can’t stop us, on the Road to Freedom / You can’t stop us, ’cause our eyes can see..”

    Amen, Van. Whoever played drums on Tupelo Honey had great time- hoo boy, is he solid.

    #85207
    Bill7
    Participant

    Lots more “let’s you and him fight!” being ratcheted up post “vaccine” approval, it seems to me.
    Not going for it, myself.

    #85208
    citizenx
    Participant

    @deflationista

    Do you recall Vietnamese Buddhist Monks lighting themselves on fire in the ultimate protest against US War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity waged against the Vietnamese Nation ?

    Flags matter but Buddhist Monks Truth means nothing to you ? You are a liar, you do not represent anything honest or truthful or decent… Meanwhile VietGhanistan rages and you lie.

    #85209
    Eric Blair
    Participant

    @ phoenixvoice #85201

    Of course, Greta’s being used, she has political utility, as they say. By the way, similar happened to Orwell after 1984 was published, a critique of totalitarianism, equally applicable to the left and the right, but seized upon with alacrity by the US to point the finger solely at the USSR. It was one major reason the book has been so successful in the US although Orwell didn’t get to profit from it because he died (and before he could get upset about it). In fact you can gauge a book’s political utility by the sales it generates. The more sales, the more propaganda is being pushed.

    #85210
    deflationista
    Participant

    @Raul

    You say:

    Never said you did, quoted your quote verbatim, you just never said he worked for the FBI since 2012, thought that needed an emphasis. If you wish to be some kind of adverse voice here, fine, but please try harder.

    Maybe you should see my response in post #85162 where I say EXACTLY what you think I didn’t say:

    Debt Rattle August 24 2021

    Maybe you should try harder?

    #85211
    cloudhidden
    Participant

    I see that British Columbia has initiated a vaccine passport (they call it a vaccine card)

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/covid19-vaccine-update-bc-1.6149947

    And today, it’s “Masks back on”
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-mask-mandate-consideration-adrian-dix-1.6151377

    #85212
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    #85213
    a kullervo
    Participant

    There is always a little bit of context left out of the discussions here.

    @deflationista

    A guy burns a flag of a terrorist organization, some snowflakes melt and the guy gets jailed for 5 months… members of a terrorist organization go about torching and looting neighbourhoods throughout the USA and get off scot-free – here’s the context left out.

    #85214
    userzeroid
    Participant

    Deflationista’s user name checks out

    #85215
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Governor of Oregon announces outdoor mask mandate

    Damn it to hell, are they trying to make me want to join the rednecks???

    #85216
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Never mind those 15,000 senior murders deaths in nursing homes. He touched a woman’s leg.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/virtue-signaling-academy-tv-arts-strips-cuomo-emmy-light-ag-report

    #85217
    OzC
    Participant

    Raul, I don’t feel I am the best qualified to comment on Dr. Richard Urso (I’m a psychiatrist) but he says IVM and HCQ are both useful drugs but are not necessary and that he is getting good results with other therapies aimed at the inflammatory response. He talks about adjusting his protocol but isn’t clear whether that is because of delta or to accommodate the politics which makes IVM and HCQ impossible to use. I would add that he has the kind of bedside manner I want in my doctor.
    As an aside, I have watched for years, with dismay, a vast increase in the use of psychiatric medicines in children and adolescents with scant empirical evidence. Of course money is involved, but I think the desire to protect and nurture is very powerful and relevant (we have to do something!) and can also lead to error.

    #85218
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Hmmm, truckie blockade in parts of God Zone Country, Australia? Wouldn’t be the first. I recall in 1979 the truckies blockading Canberra among other places as a political protest. It was quite effective. The federal government of the day had the good sense to negotiate and end it, but the feds also came within a whisker of calling in the military to end it. There was another in 1988 but it was small, more of a nuisance than anything else, and ended quickly.

    In the current climate of paranoid Lysenkoism, I can expect any blockade to be smashed immediately by the military. They’re already out in the streets (in small numbers in a few parts of the country), so a precedent has been set.

    Still and all, I will analyse the depth of my pantry. To stock up now is making wise provision; to stock up after a blockade has begun (if it begins) is hoarding.

    #85219
    thomasjkenney
    Participant
    #85220
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Florida doctors participate in a publicity stuntwalkout over the unvaccinated.

    More fake news.

    #85221
    Archie
    Participant

    They are only rednecks ’til you get to know them.

    #85222
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    Reductio ad Absurdum

    * Daily variants requiring daily booster shots with daily new vaccines
    * 2 hour FDA vaccine approval process with fast track 15 minute approval
    * Pfizer starts new religion where everyone goes to hell unless vaccinated or a Pfizer stockholder or both
    * US military requires sex change operation for all personnel
    * US military changes mission to: Mop floors, act as chauffeur and go out for coffee and donuts for Taliban
    * Proud Boy gets life in prison for frowning at BLM poster; OAC changes death penalty stance
    * School district finds middle fingers offensive and requires all teachers to have them surgically removed from both hands or be fired
    * Omega variant can be transmitted by eye contact, has no symptoms and can’t be confirmed by testing but requires that all people live in their bathtub to halt the spread
    * WHO discovers that Covid is spread by flatulence and mandates butt masks for anyone outside their bathroom
    * Goldman Sachs announces Ivermectin backed crypto currency which replaces the dollar for all transactions except at Dollar Stores and Taco Bell
    * In a surprise move Bill Maher denounces sex but won’t give details

    #85223
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Florida doctors participate in a publicity stuntwalkout over the unvaccinated.

    A Tweet I saw left me with the impression (which, of course, could be mistaken) that “Occupy Democrats” was the source of this claim. I replied that based on OD’s track record with the facts, I would withhold judgement on whether or not this was true. I am not surprised that my skepticism has been vindicated.

    #85224
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    The only thing that would have surprised me is if they brought out the In Living Color Nurse Tic Toc Dancers. But then again, even that might not surprise me.

    #85225
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    WRT the “Proud Boys” story: Might the harsh sentence the PB received have had something to do with the fact that he was carrying an illegal rifle-magazine?

    #85226
    Bill7
    Participant

    > They are only rednecks ’til you get to know them. <

    Indeed- and they know how to Do Stuff. I’ll take a “redneck” over a PMCer or Wokie any day,*if* I have to choose.

    #85227
    chettt
    Participant

    @ Eric Blair
    “Discrediting Greta Thunberg (and what she stands for) because her great-grandfather “invented” (aka made it up) global warming, pushing aside with one fell swoop the almost total disappearance of Arctic ice, crumbling Antarctic ice sheets, thawing tundra, coral reef dieoffs, droughts, floods, heat waves, fires, not to mention the fact that CO2 levels are measurably up?”

    I believe your distain of Mark Miller conclusions and your defense of Greta and the global warming hypothesis is totally misplaced. Greta is someone to be pitied. A sensitive child who, like you, has been brainwashed by the media into believing that she has no real future and that’s it’s all the fault of greedy capitalist.
    Since all of your dire perceptions are based on the work of Svante Arrhenius let’s look at some of these things you worry about:
    – In 1896 Svante Arrhenius hypothesized that a doubling of CO2 would lead to a global temperature rise of 5 – 6 degrees C. This number is the basis for virtually all current models. It is seldom mentioned that in his 1906 paper Arrhenius revised his estimates for the doubling of CO2 to 1.6C. Arrhenius amended his view of how increased carbon dioxide would affect climate. He thought the effect would be much less in terms of warming, and whatever warming ensued would be beneficial.

    – Arctic Ice – In the 1920 and ’30 the first predictions of ice free arctic and the opening of the Northwest Passage were common headlines in all of the major newspapers around the world. By the ’60 these stories had flipped and talk of a new ice age was prevalent. Currently artic ice coverage is little changed from 100 years ago.

    – Antarctic ice sheets – The big scare 30 years ago was the crumbling ice sheets or western Antarctica. In 2017 Scottish scientists have detected 91 volcanoes under a massive ice sheet in west Antarctica, potentially revealing one of the largest volcanic regions on Earth. Recent data from the rest of Antarctica reveals a falling temperature trend ( a new low temperature record) and an overall accumulation of ice.

    – Thawing Tundra – some places yes, some places no. Greenland has been experiencing an overall accumulation.

    – Coral reefs – A recent report citing reef population data from the Australian Institute of Marine Science (AIMS) shows corals on the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) have significantly expanded in number despite repeated bleaching events over the past decade. Scientists surveyed 127 reef sites in 2021 and found hard coral cover had increased at 69 of the 81 locations surveyed in the past two years. Coral cover is the highest it’s been since 1985.

    – droughts, floods, hurricanes, heat waves, fires – Contrary to the MSN assertions even the IPCC cannot find any evidence of any long term changes in these events.

    Someday the planet earth will be revered as the birthplace of humanity and will be the Mecca of the solar system that everyone will want to visit at least once in their lifetime. We need to preserve it for those future generations. Our current plans to chase away the CO@ boogeyman with windmills and solar panels will lead to unimageable environmental damage and unnatural visual blight everywhere on earth. CO2 is not the problem.

    #85228
    John Day
    Participant

    @Phoenix Voice: Those are banana plants, Maam!
    Left 2 are dwarf Orinoco and right 2 are dwarf Namwah, which V. Arnold recommended. The February freeze killed all the bananas that I planted last fall, but these are doing fine, planted in May or so.
    I’m doing other things with the growing space, trying out things like black beans and winter squash that you harvest all at once. I’m trying to grow a bunch of calories in that space, to see what works.

    #85229
    absolute galore
    Participant

    @ I RunInTheSand wrote: PS: I want to purchase 100 ivermectin tablets @ 6 mg each. Is that the proper for daily use? Is that enough?

    Chronic Prevention
    .2 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — twice a week for as long as disease risk is elevated in your community
    Post COVID-19 Exposure Prevention
    0.4 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — one dose today, repeat after 48 hours

    EARLY OUTPATIENT PROTOCOL
    lvermectin1 0.4–0.6 mg/kg per dose (take with or after a meal) — one dose daily, take for 5 days or until recovered
    Use upper dose range if: 1) in regions with aggressive variants (e.g. “Delta” variant); 2) treatment started on or after day 5 of symptoms or in pulmonary phase; or 3) multiple comorbidities/risk factors.

    If you weigh 130 lbs, the .2 dose is 12mg, the .4 dose is 24mg, and the .6 is 36mg. That translates to 2, 4, or 6 of the 6mg pills.

    You are ordering from India, shipping will be in the $30-40 range. The medicine is very inexpensive. Depending on your weight, you may want to get 3mg and 12mg pills as well. For instance, if you are 150lbs, the .2 chronic prevention dose would be 15mg–one 12mg and one 3mg pill You can get a lot of pills and shipping for $175-$200. Who knows how long the imports will last. Who knows if maybe a friend will need some. Get what you can reasonably afford, it’s good insurance.(You can download a pdf of the protocol here: https://covid19criticalcare.com/

    #85230
    John Day
    Participant

    @Bill7: We left Camp Pendelton around Thanksgiving 1964. I was in first grade. Did you leave in kindergarten? Maybe we were classmates. My dad was a captain, then a major. We lived on Cottonwood, then on Dogwood streets. I think the base housing was pretty similar. We had a canyon I could play in when we lived on Dogwood. I was not permitted to, though. I got very sick after my fourth birthday, and it took several visits to the dispensary until a major poked his index finger into my right lower abdomen, which HURT! I was surprised. He said, “It’s his appendix, we’ll take it out in the morning. They did. I remember all the details, including the dream I had under anesthesia.

    #85231
    those darned kids
    Participant

    imagine a room with 1 candle and 999 plants. every day you remove one plant and replace it with a candle.

    what’s gonna happen?

    #85232
    absolute galore
    Participant

    I don’t pity G. Thunberg, but I don’t pay any attention to her. Why? Not because she is a child,but because her “demands”, and the positions of her handlers and their proposed “solutions” are childish dreams. Because the current civilization will not be doing anything about the changing climate. Why? Because it is essentially impossible at this point to walk back our use of fossil fuels without the entire civilization crumbling. Just as we kid ourselves that printing money all day long and going negative on interest rates is”modern” and will keep everything hunky dory forever, we kid ourselves that all the various “green” alternatives, the net zero carbon, will be so because we want it to be. It won’t.

    The energy cost of energy of any of this stuff bandied about as a solution does not come near that of fossil fuels–even the hard to get fracked oil. Plus, we talk a good game but I don’t see any kind of critical mass in the rich countries like Greta’s voluntarily adopting the energy inputs and lifestyles of the average person in India or Africa. At some point she’ll write a book about how she was exploited. If there are still books by then…

    (On top of all this is the fact that it doesn’t matter the energy source–too much of it does what we see happening all around us–and I am not talking about climate change.

    From Energy and Equity by Ivan Illich:
    The widespread belief that clean and abundant
    energy is the panacea for social ills is due to a poli¬
    tical fallacy, according to which equity and energy
    consumption can be indefinitely correlated, at least
    under some ideal political conditions. Labouring
    under this illusion, we tend to discount any social
    limit on the growth of energy consumption. But if
    ecologists are right to assert that non-mctabolic
    power pollutes, it is in fact just as inevitable that,
    beyond a certain threshold, mechanical power
    corrupts. The threshold of social disintegration by
    high energy quanta is independent from the thres¬
    hold at which energy conversion produces physical
    destruction. Expressed in horsepower, it is un¬
    doubtedly lower. This is the fact which must be
    theoretically recognized before a political issue can
    be made of the per capita wattage to which a society
    will limit its members.

    Even if non-polluting power were feasible and
    abundant, the use of energy on a massive scale acts
    on society like a drug that is physically harmless but
    psychically enslaving. A community can choose
    between Methadone and ‘cold turkey 1 —between
    maintaining its addiction to alien energy and kick¬
    ing it in painful cramps—but no society can have a
    population that is at once autonomously active and
    hooked on progressively larger numbers of energy
    slaves.

    In previous discussions, I have shown that,
    beyond a certain level of GNP, the cost of social
    control must rise faster than total output and
    become the major institutional activity within an
    economy. Therapy administered by educators,
    psychiatrists and social workers must converge with
    the designs of planners, managers and salesmen, and
    complement the services of security agencies, the
    military and the police. I now want to indicate one
    reason why increased affluence requires increased
    control over personnel. I argue that beyond a cer¬
    tain median per capita energy level, the political
    system and cultural context of any society must
    decay. Once the critical quantum of per capita
    energy is surpassed, education for the abstract
    goals of a bureaucracy must supplant the legal
    guarantees of personal and concrete initiative. This
    quantum is the limit of social order.

    I will argue here that technocracy must prevail
    as soon as the ratio of mechanical power and meta¬
    bolic energy oversteps a definite, identifiable thres¬
    hold. The order of magnitude within which this
    threshold lies is largely independent from the level
    of technology applied, yet its very existence has
    slipped into the blindspot of social imagination in
    both rich and medium rich countries.

    P.;S.,thanks for the sympathy, phoenixvoice. I still have a slender hope that something might come up strong enough in the MSM to help convince her. It won’t be me armed with the latest from the persona non grata docs that get posted here.

    #85233
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Meant to bold this:
    I have shown that,
    beyond a certain level of GNP, the cost of social
    control must rise faster than total output and
    become the major institutional activity within an
    economy.

    In the book he is basically saying long before we choke and die on our waste, we will have become a totalitarian nightmare of some kind or another if we keep trying to increase our energy use–and at the same time, that also increases inequity. Maybe some of this sounds familiar…

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