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    Gustav Klimt Field of poppies 1907   • Is The US Preparing To Throw Zelensky Under The Bus? (Diesen) • Zelensky Aide: Counterattack Claims Part O
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 10 2022]

    #113177
    those darned kids
    Participant

    Cumulative Number of Case Reports Reported to Pfizer for BNT162B2 (COVID Vaccine) Serious and Non-Serious, Medically Confirmed and Non Medically-Confirmed from Post-Marketing Data Sources.

    This is the data that Pfizer has.

    If you were responsible for reviewing this, what action would you take?

    Through 15th April 2022 (around 16 months):

    Total cases reported 1,348,078.

    75% of cases reported are under the age of 65.

    Over 68% of cases are female.

    387,675 (29%) of cases are described as “serious”.

    17,156 reported cases for pregnant or breastfeeding women.

    45,523 paediatric cases.

    4,563,768 adverse events (average 3.4 per case).

    646,837 nervous system disorders.

    503,108 musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders.

    299,486 gastrointestinal disorders.

    209,213 skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders.

    176,907 respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders.

    162,086 reproductive system and breast disorders.

    114,375 cardiac disorders.

    93,097 blood and lymphatic system disorders.

    from australia

    #113178

    Ok, whoaaaaa.

    China baaaad because THEY are messing with the weather.

    1. and we here DON’T ? USA Watchdog guests beg to differ … chemtrails anyone ?

    2. and this is the same WEF that is so engaged in mine and humanity’s well being ? Really? Pot calling kettle black time imho.

    #113179
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I hope everyone know that the magistrate who signed the order to raid Trump’s home was formerly

    JEFFERY EPSTEIN’S LAWYER

    Small world, aye?

    Trump Derangement Syndrome taken to new lows.

    .

    #113180
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Klimt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jugendstil

    I think I can put the FBI thing this way: sure, no one is above the law, you can get a warrant for anyone, and although I want to be careful, this is just law, with a judge. One thing though:

    You better find something.

    Or the Judge, the FBI, the opposing party, the auto mechanic that fixed the van, you’re all going down.

    Seem fair enough?

    I don’t think they found anything. It seems to be a fishing expedition.

    The (Democratic) news media seems to be advertising that if Donald gets a ticket, a case, a lawsuit, he is ineligible to be President. Hmmm…that’s not what the Constitution says. Signed by two guys who called each other a French traitor and a hermaphrodite. Donnie’s a natural citizen over 40. Everything else is made up and likely won’t hold water, but that’s politics, that is, whatever you can get the public to swallow without choking. Remember kids: Law is just some s—t we make up!

    But I’m bored with it and my attention is elsewhere. Don’t have time for reality TV.

    “We’ve reached the stage of American history where everything we see on the news must first be understood as political theater. In other words, the messaging layer of news now almost always dominates the factual” –Matt Taibbi

    “the Justice Department just committed institutional suicide and moved the country many steps closer to once far-out eventualities like national revolt or martial law. This is true no matter what you think of Trump. Despite the early reports of “cheers” in the West Wing, the mood in center-left media has already drifted markedly from the overnight celebration. The Times story today added a line missing from most early reports: “The search, however, does not mean prosecutors have determined that Mr. Trump committed a crime.” There are whispers throughout the business that editors are striking down certain jubilant language, and we can even see this playing out on cable, where the most craven of the networks’ on-air ex-spooks are crab-crawling backward from last night’s buzz-words…”

    Throughout the Trump years we’ve seen a numbing pattern of rhetorical slippage in coverage…
    “Likely” evidence in the headline becomes more profound
    A pile of evidence must have backed up
    There’s every reason to think
    had probable grounds to believe
    [The] search warrant must be something …said Harvard”
    –Taibbi, etc.

    Uh-huh.

    “Judge Who Signed Mar-A-Lago Search Warrant Exposed as Associate of Jeffrey Epstein”

    Because once you don’t clean up corruption…corruption never sleeps. Thanks FBI, who knew the whole thing! What makes you think they didn’t find the judge, know the judge, and KEEP the judge in their pocket for future use? Wouldn’t you? The fate of some important case might rest on having this favor. Maybe the whole country! You wouldn’t want to NOT have that 5th ace in your hand, would you? Be logical. Logic is the opposite of morality. It’s never logical to disadvantage yourself for no good reason, i.e. for principle’s sake.

    “Lies, Damned Lies, and the Jan. 6 Committee”

    Just to be clear, Judge Judy, on TV, has some small legal foundation. The J6 Committee has less legal authority than Judge Judy. (The committee has no congressional authority, was not created according to congressional requirements, and further cannot adjudicate as they have separation of powers with the Judiciary. No one cares. That is to say: we have no rule of law, are a lawless nation, neither your person nor property are safe, and we are not-agreement-capable.)

    “Deep State’s “Next Step Will Be Assassination” after Trump Raid, Warns Former NYC Police Commissioner”

    Yup, as Mr. Q sez. But he’s a nobody in his basement that doesn’t know anything, right mom? But golly gee, why would he — a police commissioner — think such an outrageous thing? Nobody’s ever been assassinated in the U.S. before. Right? And there are no pedophiles in the U.S., and CERTAINLY not in NY or DC, and not under his watch in NYC where they were investigated and let go, where Weinstein paid Cuomo and the NYC D.A. a million or so by check to have the charges dropped. …On record. Nope, nope, nope. He’s just cra-cray. Crime is an elaborate illusion. Such people do not exist.

    “FBI agents or DOJ lawyers conducting the search could have “planted stuff”

    What a silly idea: when was the last time the police of FBI planted stuff? 500x daily? Anyway, this will be G R E A T when someone (Secret Service) gets film of the FBI doing it. FINALLY a reason to erase and utterly destroy the FBI and start over. And the IRS too now. Couldn’t be happier. It was going to take a lot since we need the people’s widespread support to erase them.

    “Washington dominated the information war”

    Yes but only the information war among Jr. High School girls and Crayon munchers: our core audience of illiterates.

    ““All public remarks by Ukrainian officials are part of information warfare lies against Russia..” Fixed it. I mean, what did you think that meant?

    “He ruled out Kiev’s military defeat as a possible scenario, predicting that Western nations will funnel weapons to Ukraine regardless of the cost..”

    These glue-sniffers think “cost” is any relevant factor here. “Cost” is not the issue. “Cost” does not win wars. What is that definition? “Knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing?”

    “Certainly, all public comments are part of information warfare. We need to demoralize the Russian army,”

    If you’d stop sniffing glue with Hunter for a moment, you’d realize the Russian Army isn’t reading your papers. They’re too busy taking the country and getting shot at. Unlike you, typing with the lights on between Bono and Vogue. We should fight wars like this more often. Who knew? Leaving the lights on gives them a fabulous sense of un-reality and lack of urgency that they never get serious and screw around with everything they touch.

    “Perry was in communication numerous times with the Trump White House in the days and weeks ahead of the storming of the Capitol.”

    A Trump ally was in communication with Trump during the Trump administration??? Very suspicious. And Laurel was talking to Hardy, I hear. And the reason for the cell phone must be 1) a show, 2) they can’t get or don’t trust a FISA warrant anymore since it would be better, easier, and more secret to tap the cell tower because THE PHONE CALLS DON’T LIVE ON YOUR PHONE. Dummies. Do these guys also think there are tiny actors inside their TVs?

    ““Since Orbán returned to power in 2010 marriages in Hungary have doubled, abortions have halved, divorces have hit record lows, and the birth rate has risen by a quarter.”

    No wonder they hate and fear him. And he’s bringing that here. Brrrrr, the horror! Rutte? Meanwhile Holland is the drug-running capital of the world and is now being called a narco-state. That is, the drug money is now bending politics, law, and the economy. Nearby to Sweden, the hand grenade capital of the world. But they’re successful and free unlike that awful Orban guy.

    “Eadric’s descendants inherited his lands in a place called Acton Scott in the west of England”

    Yes, and you can see them on TV. The Acton Scott was the landowner host of BBC’s “Victorian Farm”, still doing good things after all these years.

    Africa is going to do well. But slowly, which is probably a good thing. They’re on a different cycle and it will be helpful when U.S. and Europe come down to Ordinary-nation level with them as peers. Like Brazil.

    US Occupation Loots Most of Syria’s Oil: Ministry (AlMa)”

    The “U.S.” is not one thing. For instance, I am not “the U.S.” So WHO in the U.S.? …The CIA is broke and self-funding. Using pirating, drug running, human trafficking, and theft. Duh. I mean since Pappa Bush or even ‘Nam, and the U.N. already reported their drug flows are the keystone supporting international banking. Or modern nations like Holland. I mean, that report that the loss of drug running would collapse world banking was like 2007? Or is that one of Schrodinger’s reports that happened but didn’t happen, is real but also not?

    Anyway, “Americans” like the floods in Kentucky won’t see a dime. They will see an IRS agent looking for that one loose chicken in the yard. And that Agent will be armed. ‘Cuz “guns R bad” / “Police brutality” am I right? Can I get an “Amen” up in here?

    “Man” Or modern man. No human did this for 10,000 years before and some places not till 1900 or even now. We are supposedly the same species so what happened? Most people wouldnt’ do that now and are forced to at gunpoint — the Sheriff’s eviction. Points out that cities are way more environmental than farms and cows of course. Who knew? We MUST pave the farms surrounding Amsterdam: the fate of the planet depends on it!!! Go go Greta Greenberg!

    #113181
    oxymoron
    Participant

    People build up a skill set that gets honed over years and years. It becomes easier – like body memory (which I have in spades when I sit behind my drumkit). Dr D, catches those little lines that stick out like dog’s balls when revealed to you but easy to skim past if not as trained or skilled – in Dr’s case academic level bullshit detecting.

    “Certainly, all public comments are part of information warfare. We need to demoralize the Russian army,”

    If you’d stop sniffing glue with Hunter for a moment, you’d realize the Russian Army isn’t reading your papers. They’re too busy taking the country and getting shot at. Unlike you, typing with the lights on between Bono and Vogue.

    Aced it again – and I would not have caught it. Thanks.

    Bill7 from the other day – Charles Hugh smith on “I Dig Dirt” – I loved it and would add that the sign above the entrance to our house says “DIG DIRT”

    #113182
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’m pretty much a full time conspiracy theorist, but only about one such in particular. My theory is that there is a vast conspiracy to suppress theorists by calling them conspiracy theorists.

    #113183
    zerosum
    Participant

    In a few words
    Information wars.
    Nobody is above the law.

    1. Take the boxes, Put this “secret paper” in one of the boxes.
    2. Covid19 did not kill all the Obese people, old people, sick people. They are still the living majority.
    3. If Russians are not safe, and ex presidents are not safe from hate, why would you think that you and your property are safe

    #113184
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So when somebody calls you a conspiracy theorist, here is what you should tell them back:

    “Well I sure am a theorist alright, and right now my theory is that you might have undisclosed reasons, which you have good reason to keep hidden, for calling me a conspiracy theorist.”

    #113185
    Noirette
    Participant

    I tried to post this yest. and it didn’t see it show (if mistaken apologies…) 2 parts.

    OFFSHORE 95 Secrets of the President Zelenskyy’s business

    Oct 2021, YouTube, 55 mins. Eng subs. Movie was banned in Ukr.

    Apparently some Collective-W ppl (as seen published in Die Welt) have *discovered* it as now Zelensky is most likely to be thrown under the bus. Imho there are no real surprises on the financial end (most of the info comes from the Panama Papers..still the detail is vaguely interesting..) but the interviews of two Ukr. officials are telling, and there are some great scenes that show us that fiction and RL meld together so intimately it becomes impossible to distinguish them.

    For ex. there was a public debate before the prez. election in Ukr. between Ze and Poro (RL) – it looks like a scene from a movie, a fabrication…Ukr. obviously beats, hands down, the USA in the IMAGE-NARRATIVE-IS-ALL game, which is interesting to think about. Corruption in Ukr. also closely resembles corruption in the USA, but that is another topic.

    youtube, https://bit.ly/3QypodI

    #113186
    Noirette
    Participant

    2. More on Ze,

    The Swiss MP and former editor-in-chief of the Tribune de Genève, Guy Mettan, paints a portrait of the acrobat who plays the role of president of Ukraine. He shows how this public entertainer became an ally of the Banderists and set up a dictatorship for them. June 2022.

    voltaire network, https://bit.ly/3JI5xXm

    Mettan is good.. But.. why and how the Banderistas / Neo-Nazis gathered so much clout in Ukr. is imho only explicable by massive support .. from the W, the US and Germany in first place, as well as – this gets more complicated – Ukr. Oligarchs who pay for, and thus control, private militias (some of which become incorporated nationally.. heh ..)

    Imho Ze is a kind of hapless actor playing in a landscape he doesn’t understand, from glitz and image is all, and secrecy and corruption and using dodgy finance is necessary (that is how he got ahead, running a kind of local Media Empire, huge profits, triumph galore), to the realisation that physical threats are real and if one can’t counter, submission is the only choice.

    #113187
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Say, now that we (me, at least) are on the topic of “Conspiracy Theorists” , how about that Alex Jones trial, hey ? That’s a real hum dinger, donctha think? I mean, have you ever seen anything quite like it ? Was there ANY keystone of Law that the court failed to violate? It’s as if the judge had a checklist of fundamental principles of legal philosophy , written statute and Constitution and just went down the list checking each one off as she violated the hell out of it in broad daylight. Just, WOW!

    It takes a lot to corrupt a legal system, because the system itself is designed to remove from the itself (from the top down) any violations of the principles upon which the system is based. The legal system is the last Fail-Safe for self correction, but it is EXTREMELY effective in eliminating anything which opposes the primary directive of the power at the top.

    The only way a judge can get away with violating law is if the judge’s boss allows (or orders!) them to get away with it, because the boss can simply order the enforcement of the law and it shall be enforced and the junior judge will be either gone or in prison. Snap.

    So how corrupt is the court that went after Jones? Corrupt enough that the judge was confident that she would get away with what she did. And brother, she did a LOT!

    That badly corrupted then, all the way to the top? Sure looks that way,. I don’t see anybody from within the Justice System officially trying to stop them although the struggle upward continues. Jones still shows up to court on time every time, and I assume that the guns carried by many of the law enforcement officials involved are real guns, and that their prison cells have real bars on them to dissuade premature departure.

    So what did Jones do that was so bad that the Justice System of the world’s (heretofore) most powerful empire had to be sacrificed in order to stop him?

    Seems that he is a rather successful conspiracy theorist.

    So the United States government sees Jones, personally, just this ONE guy(!) as an actual existential threat? Sure looks like it.

    Say! I just came up with a conspiracy theory! My theory is that there is a REASON that the legal system of the US Government wants to stop Jones from theorizing about conspiracies.

    #113188
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Father’s recorded call to pharmacist
    …Last year a woman contacted me off of a private group that I was in on Facebook. She was looking for advice, because her husband wanted to vaccinate their young children against Covid and she was opposed. I told her that she would have a better chance at preventing that from happening legally separated or divorced rather than married — because when married, either parent can take the child to be vaccinated and there is nothing the other parent can really do. The assumption by the state is that the married parents are united and functioning. With joint-legal decision-making either parent can make a decision at the doctor office, but expressly going against the wishes of the other parent can create legal problems. There are formal ways to make decisions when parents disagree. I felt awkward telling the woman this — I don’t like breaking up marriages, but I’ve learned a great deal going through divorce and then custody stuff, and I knew that Inwas correct. I guess it was a bombshell for her — the next thing she said was that the only reason why she was staying in the marriage was because she thought she had more parental rights married than divorced.

    More IRS agents isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
    Right now, thousands upon thousands of citizens tax returns are getting flagged by an automated system for “verification” requiring human eyes to proceed. Some are flagged due to changes or anomalies, for others it is simply random. ( This has happened to my 2021 tax return. I filed mid-February 2022…I have no idea when I’ll receive my refund. It is creating economic hardship.). There are not enough IRS agents to do this “human check” in a timely manner, so this process drags on month after month after month. In addition, by law, the IRS is required to be available to citizens via telephone who want to talk to “a real person” when calling in. Currently, the ONLY way to get to a real person on the IRS phone system is by not answering the automated questions — i.e. DON’T enter your social security number when prompted by the computer voice, and then following a specific set of prompts that do not relate to you so that you get into a queue that results in getting to a real person. It takes about 3 minutes to get that far. But I could only get to the next step — waiting in the phone queue to talk to a live person when I called at 6 am (9 am Eastern.). All other times of the day, I would get the recording that due to high call volume they couldn’t take my call, please try back later. The wait exceeded 2 hours. To get an appointment at the local office, one has to leave name and information on voicemail. They never called me back to make the appointment. Fortunately, I qualify for the IRS Taxpayer Assistance Service…it didn’t take quite as long to get through to them. They said that they’d get back to me in about a month. They did not. Now, today or tomorrow I’ll be calling them back.

    The IRS is severely understaffed. I read all these words about more IRS agents meaning more people will be audited and I shake my head. The people saying these things are ignorant of reality. The IRS is already so short staffed that it is failing to comply with the law and adequately communicating with taxpayers.

    #113189
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    Tried to post a long reply to @TDub the other day, and of course it was silently rejected. I’ll try breaking it up.


    @TDub
    : if I were in your place, which is a difficult one, I would build my argument on a couple of pretty solid pieces of evidence: the jabs appear to be effective for only a period of months, and then turn negative:

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3949410 (Swedish study of 1.6 million health records concludes that vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rates according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals; protection against severe disease seems to remain high through 9 months, but again the same subgroups (men, older, frail) decay faster; note that, on average, vaccine efficacy turns negative at about eight months after the second injection, meaning a vaccinated person is MORE likely to become infected after that time, relative to an unvaccinated person; for good discussion about validity of study and conclusions, see here: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/swedish-study-shows-covid-vaccines or here https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/11/05/covid-how-long-does-vaccine-based-immunity-last/ )

    This implies that you would be signing your son up for an endless series of boosters, with a concomitant cumulative risk with each additional shot.

    #113190
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    The risks involved in the injection are not zero, especially for young people; many countries are realizing this, and are beginning to ban COVID-19 vaccines for the young. Here is one article on that trend from boriquagato’s substack:

    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/all-cause-mortality-effects-of-covid (you’d probably have to click the links in the article to go back to the official source data, otherwise she’ll probably claim it is just misinformation)

    On the other side of the equation, the evidence continues to mount that immunity from natural infection is more durable, more effective against variants, and much longer lasting, here is a summary from the Brownstone Institute:

    https://brownstone.org/articles/natural-immunity-and-covid-19-twenty-nine-scientific-studies-to-share-with-employers-health-officials-and-politicians/ (twenty-nine studies summarized, showing that natural immunity for a SARS-type virus is robust, long-lasting, and broadly effective even in the case of mutations, generally more so than vaccines; now upgraded to 81 150 studies: https://brownstone.org/articles/79-research-studies-affirm-naturally-acquired-immunity-to-covid-19-documented-linked-and-quoted/ )

    #113193
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Joan Rivers, acting from the beyond, has arranged a peace conference between Vlad and Zelensky:

    Ending the Gwar

    #113194
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    And now it won’t take the third and final section of my response.

    #113195
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    Finally, the thing that drives both the doctor and your wife is fear. It is very hard to get people to assess risks rationally when they are in a perpetual, automatic state of fear on a topic.

    https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-689684/v1 (research quantifying deaths of children and young people from SARS-CoV-2, finds them rare)

    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.07.08.21260210v2.full (preprint of John Ioannidis study of infection fatality rate in 14 countries based on seroprevalence data; IFR was less than previously believed for the elderly 70+; more than 95% of those infected survive, 97.1% when considering those not in a care home; also has IFR for other age ranges, for those under 20 it is approximately 1 in 76,000, or 0.0013%; for more discussion and context, see https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/new-research-suggests-covid-was-less-deadly-thought-first-year-pandemic )

    #113196
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    Some other resources:

    https://palexander.substack.com/p/alexander-dear-pfizer-leave-the-children (Dr. Paul Alexander reviews the situation on the 5-11 year old group, and finds the case for vaccination to be sorely lacking – underpowered trial data, insufficient study length, and a risk-benefit ratio that tilts almost entirely toward risk and away from benefit)

    https://gmail.us5.list-manage.com/track/click?u=841d7e17af5afd1f5d4877c35&id=ca6cff93ac&e=ba13277090 (the TruthForHealth.org web site is hosting a webinar for parents on August 9th regarding children’s vaccination; with the problems posting this date has now past, but the presentation should still be archived on the truthforhealth.org web site)

    Finally, there is the documentation project started by myself and TAE Summary, in which I’ve tried to include important papers and analysis. The most relevant sections are the section on poor efficacy (page 25), danger (page 38), natural immunity (page 51), and children (page 60).

    https://we.tl/t-SJKIZEXkBp (link to PDF good for 7 days)

    Rototillerman

    #113197
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Dutch farmers and nitrogen

    Here’s a nice little twist to the story.

    Yesterday evening on the news there was an item about the problems caused by having too much nitrogen being deposited in natural areas. A forester point out some plants that he particularly liked. “If there is too much nitrogen,” he informed the viewers, “these little plants will lose to other species because they can survive on poor soils where other species can’t.” The interviewer asked the man what would become of the area if nothing was done about the nitrogen. “Well,” he replied, “then quickly trees would establish themselves here and this area would turn into a wood.”

    I’m not making this up (you couldn’t) here was a forester who was worried about trees growing!

    #113198
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    If the information about the attack on the Novo airport in Crimea is correct -a British orchestrated attack that destroyed 20+ aircraft and 60 pilots injured- we can expect the Russian response to these fascist provocations to be ramped up to an even higher level.

    #113199
    TDub
    Participant

    @Rototillerman
    Thank you for both the time and knowledge you shared. These links are a great help and I appreciate the way you approached the argument. This will definitely help my son and I’m sure there are others on here who will benefit as well.

    #113200
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    You need to understand the ‘correct’ role of nitrogen compounds in modern economies: they are manufactured synthetically -frequently from natural gas to make urea, at great expense and consuming large amounts of electrical energy; they are applied to agricultural land to stimulate faster growth, and production of food for humans and animals that humans eat; the waste nitrogen compounds in human bodies are naturally converted by biological systems to urea, which is excreted as urea; the urine (containing high-value organic nitrogen) is pumped through sewage systems using electricity that is generated by burning fossil fuels that exacerbate both energy depletion predicament and the planetary overheating predicament. Most of the urea generated in ‘civilised nations’ ends up in the seas and oceans of the world. Fecal matter is frequently separated utilising machines that are electrically powered, and in many cases the fecal matter is recycled into compost (again using electricity and fossil fuels) which can be sold to consumers via the use of plastic bags and diesel-powered transport systems. In this utterly Orwellian world, such products are described as ‘BIo’ or ‘Eco’.

    This is just one aspect of what is called ‘development’ or ‘progress’.

    Other forms of ‘progress’ include using huge quantities of coal to make iron and steel for construction buildings and transport systems, as per

    2Fe2O3 + 3C = 4 Fe + 3CO2

    To achieve the high temperature needed, coal (coke) is blasted with air

    C + O2 = CO2

    And converting limestone -again using huge quantities of fossil fuels- into cement, according to these equations:

    CaCO3 + heat = CaO + CO2

    CH4 + 2 O2 = CO2 + 2 H2O

    So, the object of the game is to convert the natural world into a synthetic world, using vast quantities of fossil fuels that release humungous quantities of carbon dioxide into the biosphere when utilised.

    The prime reasons for doing this are:

    1. so that Ponzi schemes can be kept gong a little longer

    2. so that people with a sense of entitlement can have their whims temporarily satisfied

    3. so that multibillionaires can have fun on board planes and superyachts

    #113201
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    @Afewknowthe truth, good post.

    #113204
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Jones was talking about Bigfoot and the greenwood machine elves whut dun it. He was on to the whole thing! …Or maybe there are only a very few SPECIFIC questions, subjects, and theories that are not allowed?


    @Afewknowthetruth
    , not wrong, but those are also the foundational elements for the lowest forms of life: poor, primitive people. Are you suggesting no masonry, no iron, no steel, no fertilizer? Sounds pretty rough to me.

    This is the thing with business, they say “Corporations Pollute.” Pollute to who? They aren’t making things for their benefit, they’re making products for YOU, the poor and middle class public. Sure that one superyacht sucks and takes an outsized share of resources for stupid reasons, but that’s one yacht. It’s the 2.5 million 16 foot powerboats that really used 2.49x the amount of resources. Same math as to why all taxes are paid by the middle class: there are only a thousand billionaires and we already tax them.

    So generally the resources like plastic, fertilizer, aluminum, steel, lithium, are used and thrown in the Royal Canal by US, the ordinary guy. I’d say use less, but that’s still using a lot and a billion times more than Musk and his 27 kids, known and unknown. I’m not planning on shutting off my food, water, steel, or masonry consumption any time soon since — and I must firmly protest here — I would die, die, die, die, die if I didn’t. But also if you took my cheetos away with their tasty, non-biodegradable 1oz mylar bag, individually shipped to me from Amazon.

    Second question: if we cook with sharp sticks and go back to caves as Germany and AOC want, what’s the power differential look like when they have satellite radar, IR goggles, drone cameras, railguns and flying cars? I don’t plan on a repeat of being a Plains Indian. Already did that. This time I plan on keeping my own gunpowder and my own laser-guided IR missiles to keep Custer off my lawn for good.

    Loose thoughts. WE are the change we seek, and also the enemies R us.

    #113205
    Antidote
    Participant

    @ Afewknowthetruth

    “The prime reasons for doing this are:

    1. so that Ponzi schemes can be kept gong a little longer

    2. so that people with a sense of entitlement can have their whims temporarily satisfied

    3. so that multibillionaires can have fun on board planes and superyachts”

    Well you were doing pretty good on your analysis until the above. What? Do you ride a horse to work? Go down to the river to bath and wash your nice *manufactured* cotton, wool or synthetic clothing? Grow or gather ALL of your food? On and on. For a few seconds I thought you might be one of the only other people that have read (the much discredited) Jeremy Rifkins “Entropy, A New World View” other than myself, well I betcha JD has read it. Even as far off the grid as @Michael Read is he is still using and dependent on entropy increasing technology.

    By the simple act of reading this blog you and I are bleeding this planets resource base and creating entropy as we do. Internet server farms are some of the worst energy hogs there are. Blame game is a non starter with me. Bloods on everyone’s hands.

    #113206
    aspnaz
    Participant

    We have a Covid bombshell tonight with figures revealing the true number of deaths is much lower than feared.

    Doctors were raising this issue over a year ago and the government response was to remove their licenses. Will the doctors that were struck off for saying this now get their licenses back? Will the people now understand why the anti-vax people do not trust the Aussie government? Will they fuck.

    #113207
    aspnaz
    Participant

    More died after vax than from virus in Taiwan

    This is old news. Total Covid deaths in 2022 is 625 (up to May), excess mortality in 2021 (excluding Covid etc) was 7000 unexplained, unexpected deaths in the younger age group. So still loads dying unexpectedly, as reported in this clip.

    #113208
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Biden administration just took the world’s most reputable police force and turned it into the American version of the Tonton Macoute

    The world’s most reputable police force? Is this written by a provincial US farm worker who hasn’t seen a newspaper ever? The FBI has not been reputable in my lifetime, certainly not the world’s most reputable police force, but to provincial americans the “world” is the USA with Canada being the Moon and Mexico being Mars, or something like that.

    #113209
    aspnaz
    Participant

    There’s every reason to think that there’s a plus factor in the quantum and quantity of evidence that the government already had to support probable cause in this case.

    History of the Trump Presidency accusations reveals that this statement is most likely not true. Which is why they got a disposable junior magistrate – an Epstein associate and pedophile whom you can bet appears in the blackmail footage from Epstein Island – and not a judge to sign this off. I wonder what will happen to this poor magistrate, in some ways I feel sorry for him, it must be terrible being blackmailed, then I think of his likely crimes and that pity quickly evaporates.

    #113210
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    Urea and the other synthetic fertilisers are a roundabout way of allowing us to eat oil and gas, as laid out by Odum a fair while ago now. That’s why I’m suspect of any taxation or limiting of these fertilisers on environmental grounds, as it seems to me more likely related to the pricing of oil and gas.

    There is a mental trap we get caught in the west of our sinful ways, that is encapsulated in that ‘Man’ video. Firstly that it is universal human behaviour, which it certainly isn’t. The entire machine thinking, technical domination of nature is an outcome of Western European ways of thought (progress, extension, analysis), that we have managed to infect everyone else with (bad money drives out good). But there are also the power laws which state that destruction will inevitably follow when a system gets the enormous boost of energy that fossil fuels gave us, so to assign blame may be the wrong way of looking at it.

    But there is the further thought that on a long enough time scale, perhaps this violent eruption of the last 300 years is a great release of locked up resources for living systems to utilise. As that ridiculous Dutch news item says, trees are certainly appreciating the higher availability of carbon and other nutrients. Places like Australia, which were caught in a tectonics trap of slowly eroding fertility have been given a huge dose of phosphorus and other things it was lacking (including nutrient cycling megafauna such a buffalo and camels).

    All those big cats locked in US homes may one day become the ancestors of long lost large predators on the north American landscape. Biodiversity can recover very quickly once things settle down.

    #113211
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Dr. D ‘Are you suggesting no masonry, no iron, no steel, no fertilizer? Sounds pretty rough to me.’

    I guess it depends on your definition of rough.

    Don’t forget that humans lived on this planet for around 195,000 out of the 200,000 years of existence of our species without iron, without steel, without cement, and without fertiliser. And it was only AFTER humans commenced large-scale utuilisation of iron, steel, cement, fertiliser that things started to go seriously wrong, i.e. after around 1850 (though I have previously highlighted Newcomen’s installation of coal-fired steam pump to facilitate more extraction of water from flooded mines and thereby increase rates of extraction of minerals and coal around 1715 as a critical turning point for humanity and life in general on this planet). As late as 1950 a substantial portion of the human population lived without any of the aforementioned.

    It was the use of the aforementioned that got us into this mess! -of massive population overshoot and massive overdependence on fossil fuels. And The Sixth Great Extinction Event, of course.

    Here’s the real kicker, though: the more we use the aforementioned, the faster our demise!

    And if we do not go entirely extinct as a direct consequence of the severe disturbance to geochemical and ecological balance [we have caused] in the very near term (some genuine scientists say before 2030), the more we use the aforementioned, the faster we cause civilisation to collapse.

    I am just the messenger, so please don’t ‘shoot me’.. But please understand that this is not a new message. The eminent senior Shell oil geologist M K Hubbert warned this would happen!!!

    All that happened in the 1970s was that bankers, economists, corporate leaders and bought-and-paid-for politicians ignored the warning. (Just as they ignored the 1972 Limits to Growth) And they promoted fantasies as a replacement for reality,. And they pretty much censored the truth about energy and resources out of existence -much s they have recently censored the truth about fake ‘vaccines’ out of existence, and have censored the truth about the financial system out of existence. That, plus 24-7 propaganda.

    The ‘controllers’ haven’t done with promoting fantasies: just look at the garbage the WEF churns out.

    In case you have missed it


    The trouble is, when your entire system is fakery and lies and censorship and propaganda -which it is- and when you are shitting in your own nest as quickly as possible, catastrophic collapse is inevitable.

    #113212
    Redneck
    Participant

    I think this article illustrate how the Russians fucked up bad when they attempted to surround Kiev in the early days of the war. They did not understand that hand held missiles were a game changer and took heavy losses before retreating.https://en.topwar.ru/200011-neobhodimost-jevoljucii-vooruzhenija-i-taktiki-vozdushno-desantnyh-vojsk-kak-sledstvie-provedenija-rossijskoj-specoperacii-na-ukraine.html

    #113213
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Antidote.

    No, I don’t ride a horse. I have never been wealthy enough to own a horse. Just a poor boy, born to poor parents in the off-the coast-of-Europe sector of the concentration camp. What distinguished me was having above-average intelligence and above-average determination. Above-average curiosity too.

    No horse but I do ride bicycles. . Rode one this morning. Indeed cycling is my normal mode of transport. I have various bicycles for different uses, and several bike trailers for different applications.

    Not yet at the stage of ‘going to the river to bathe. But I am in the process of digging a small well, in preparation for when the electricity grid fails….which it most certainly will some time this decade. Of course the ‘Zombie apocalypse’ will occur before or contemporaneously.

    ‘ By the simple act of reading this blog you and I are bleeding this planets resource base and creating entropy as we do..’

    I totally agree!

    Indeed, having an honours degree in chemistry, having studied the structure of matter, energy transitions and thermodynamics to a very high level, I may well know more than you. Not saying I do. Just I may. Gibb’s Free Energy, Clausius-Clapeyron and all that.

    I do know that I know more about the physical world and the biological world and the financial world than 4.8 million people who also live on this land mass. I cannot say that is a good thing. Sometime I think it would be better to be blissfully ignorant.

    But then I think about what the ‘blissfully ignorant’ are going to suffer in the near future -collapse of their food supply, collapse of their finances, collapse of their health [for the jabbed] and collapse of all they systems they believed in.

    No. It’s better to be informed and prepared., .

    #113214
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Young Sociopathic Biden Spells Out How The Game Works

    #113215
    chettt
    Participant


    @Afewknowthetruth
    ,
    Reads to me that you would have preferred that the world would have been better off if it had been taken over in the 1970s by a one world government like WEF (or the Club of Rome as they were known in the ’70s). I couldn’t agree less.
    Humans are clever and much more resourceful than the one world megalomaniacs give them credit.

    #113216
    Antidote
    Participant

    @chettt

    Dr. D said a while back: “the people are perennial like the grass”.

    In these last 3 years I have been amazed at how many people do not recognize their own nazi bent. Advocating eugenics and they don’t even know it.

    #113217
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Modern humanity is like a “generation ship” whose inhabitants can scarcely remember why they’re on a giant interstellar ark, or even what stars are.

    The gen-ship trope usually has people lapsing into barbarism. On our 21st century “gen-ship”, we’ve laxed into surreal hyper-civilized couch potatoes unable to remember much less imagine life without couches.

    Let’s hear it for Joe-Jim!

    ***

    The Plains Indians were done in mostly by pathogenic microbes. If it weren’t for them itty bugs, European culture/military would’ve bounced off American culture/military with quills in its hide, and never returned.

    For survival tech I suggest real friends who really care about each other’s survival. WIthout that, even the biggest military industrial complex won’t do squat.

    ***

    ET Phone

    #113218
    Antidote
    Participant
    #113222
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Never assume, especially not about what other people think or believe. You just make an ass of yourself.

    Far better to ask them Then you will get the right answer!

    So, no, I do not think the world would have been better off it had been taken over by WEF or Club of Rome.

    Besides. the world already was taken over by WEF! But they just didn’t call it WEF at the time. Research the City of London, and recognise that there has been a millennium of control of the populace by sociopaths, looters, exploiters and psychopaths.

    In the non-Anglo world it is referred to as ‘The Empire of Lies’, and more recently as ‘The Empire of Chaos’, as everything is made increasingly chaotic.

    If you were to ask me who I think should be in control, I would say physical scientists and ecologists and deep thinkers. But such people (like me) would say: “Stop, Enough.” And the bankers and industrialists would have a fit and have them murdered. Promptly.

    As it is, such people do say, “Stop. Enough!” all the time. But their voices are unheard above the cacophany of bullshit and commercialism that ‘the controllers’ promote..

    “Money makes the world go round.”

    Well, it used to.

    But now the rules are changing. Very seriously changing. And people are discovering that physics, chemistry and biology etc. DO MATTER AFTER ALL!

    By the way, here is Shell’s top oil geologist M King Hubbert’s warning to the world in 1976. (Ignored, of course).

    I rather like what senior oil geologist Colin Campbell (co-founder of ASPO) said around 15 years ago: “You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”

    And here is another by the way: Admiral Rickover, ‘father of the US nuclear submarine fleet’ warned about much the same thing as Hubbert waaay waaay back in 1957!

    But their voices are unheard. That is partly

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