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    Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud, Brussels 1873   • Yale Doctor Battles CNN Anchor Over Effectiveness Of HCQ (Fox) • COVID19 Survivors Show Incre
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    #61802
    V. Arnold
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    Paul Verlaine and Arthur Rimbaud, Brussels 1873

    Fascinating photograph; it gives up very little…
    Unless you Yandex it; a flood of information about those two poets and their relationship and their effect on poetry; again, an interesting read.

    #61803

    Rimbaud is the most lauded French poet. He stopped writing at the ripe old age of 21, and became an arms smuggler in Morocco. He died at 33.

    #61804
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    …and became an arms smuggler in Morocco. He died at 33.

    That I did not know; thanks.
    I thought they looked like Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. 😉

    Poets? Never! I mean, how could it be?
    Alas, twas in fact, poets…
    😉

    #61805
    zerosum
    Participant

    “…. random placebo-controlled trials, what Dr. Fauci refers to as the gold standard,”

    Today’s idiom: “the pot calling the kettle black.”
    This saying, which personifies kitchenware in order to make a point about hypocrisy, means “to criticize someone for a fault you also possess.”

    ——
    By the look of the numbers, it looks like we will have to live with 1% of the world population getting seriously sick from covid19.
    It will be just another condition of being alive.
    Another risk of dying.
    Another chance of going to a better place, (heaven), which has scared everyone so much that it shut down our economic and social systems..
    We will find ways of avoiding this cause of death and keep some kind of economic and social systems operational.
    We will find ways of surviving/living with covid19 just like we have found ways of living with winter and and heat domes.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0&nsukey=yt0agaqvkr89bjtpnmm8m9vla/v5edttqdsdc5nug+dpwiyqiztyw/a2kv2kykkhkildmtxxff3fspv4mlgxh14hrlhuhqc5lfpfyov0tsx5mgezbomly6ywn3iyb8lmut2kai5oc79105ep7i4rckdq4j3xbq2nmo6ovqzhzythjnyfndmyuyhmgq/9janotm+ghsxygi6zvo32lbix6g==&__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=b896c97a0f6870fb9662fa9a0541b3d34ab3575c-1584097489-0-AR66lqtkk5u1w0dYtl4FJV_gZ2QVPld8FkhUZNqxFa2nFZMzeqwqhkTUXdIom33CCOkBMBx7BdP_pO_MvSqQsHPejJZ_S-TlfOUG0wdZZxhNg_RBMj5Gkn_H

    Last updated: August 04, 2020, 13:21 GMT
    6,074,822
    Currently Infected Patients
    6,010,241 (99%)
    in Mild Condition

    64,581 (1%)
    Serious or Critical

    #61806
    zerosum
    Participant

    Assuring everyone that only 1% of the recipients of the vaccine become ill or die within a year will not be as reassuring as proponents hope.
    https://www.oftwominds.com/blog.html#jump

    #61807
    Ken Barrows
    Participant

    The question to ask is whether one type of voting in less reliable than another. Mail in voting works in Colorado. And Utah. And other places. I will give you that NYC is very corrupt, although the article is a bit thin on details. Not sure that it’s the first of many incidents. Voting fraud stories are split between Dems and Republicans (e.g. North Carolina district cited in the article). Here, it’s also a primary versus a general.

    Trump doesn’t want mail in voting to lower the vote count. It’s not more complicated than that. Kunstler likes to bring up the subject for his QAnon membership application.

    #61808
    Mr. House
    Participant

    So many shenanigans, and all in an election year, what are the odds!

    #61809
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Kenbarrows

    Is this writer q anon level yet?

    The White Black Nationalist Color Revolution

    #61810
    Bill7
    Participant

    ‘Europeans Are Waking Up to Government Covid Tyranny. Why Are We Still Asleep?’:

    “Tens of thousands of Germans marched through Berlin on Saturday, proclaiming a “Day of Freedom” and demanding an end to government-mandated face masks and “social distancing.” The UK and Netherlands also saw large protests against their governments’ tyrannical actions in response to the coronavirus outbreak.

    According to media accounts, the Berlin protesters held signs reading “We are being forced to wear a muzzle,” “Natural defense instead of vaccination,” and “We are making noise because you are stealing our freedom!”

    Good for them!

    The New York Times Tweeted that the masses of Berlin demonstrators were all “Nazis” and “conspiracy theorists.” Does the “paper of record” really want us to believe there were perhaps a million Nazis active in the streets of Berlin? Wouldn’t that be alarming?

    The fact is, Europeans are realizing that their government-mandated lockdowns did little or nothing to protect them from the virus, while causing economic catastrophe and untold human suffering..”

    http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2020/august/03/europeans-are-waking-up-to-government-covid-tyranny-why-are-we-still-asleep/

    He’s right. Rights lost are not easily regained..

    -Bill7

    #61811
    PlanetaryCitizen
    Participant

    “The question to ask is whether one type of voting in less reliable than another.” Correctamundo! Oregon uses mail in voting. My sister lives there along with her non citizen husband (Aussie). He made the mistake of signing her ballot for her which was caught by the vote counters. The were contacted by the authorities and reprimanded. Mail in voting works very well. Colorado has the highest rating for voting accuracy. On the other hand we have a President elected to office who shouldn’t have been all over the issue of hanging chads.

    #61812
    Mr. House
    Participant

    I’m not voting, nor do i think it makes a difference so thats one thing i dont have to worry about this year, thank god.

    #61813
    zerosum
    Participant
    #61814
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Honest question:

    How much of what is going on is due to people actually thinking or how much is due to people just wanting to fit in? So much of what is going on now feels like its the cool people shouting you down just because. No reason or logic to it

    #61815
    Mr. House
    Participant

    7 billion people
    697,289 deaths

    Which leads to the chicken vs the egg argument, if we’d not done this those death numbers would be much higher!

    Strikes me as the same argument about how if we hadn’t QE’d back in 08 that i always heard when i argued against it. And if you were against it you were just a cold hearted person. And if you’re against the covid hysteria you’re a cold hearted person. Goal posts just keep moving.

    #61816
    zerosum
    Participant

    “7 billion people
    697,289 deaths”

    Do 1% of 7 billion and look at the social/economic systems that survives.

    That what we will have to live with … rinse and repeat …. then add hurricane destruction …. Beirut destruction … water shortages …. etc.
    Yep!
    Things are going to be different.

    #61818
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    COVID-19 after effects : Are these problems due to the virus OR to the antibodies?

    These reports of complication seem to be for those who were hospitaliised.

    The solution is to prevent the patients being hospitalised, and at the moment the ONLY option is treatment using zinc/HCQ/AZN.

    I read that blacks and latinos are disproportionately affected by C-19 so suppressing the use of HCQ could be considered racist!

    I would have liked to have seen more studies on the importance of vitamin D. Does it have a definite impact on the severity of the disease?

    #61819
    Dr. D
    Participant

    99.94% to fit in, clearly. This is my mistake.

    Situations have ended sad
    Relationships have all been bad
    Mine’ve been like Verlaine’s and Rimbaud
    But there’s no way I can compare
    All those scenes to this affair
    Yer gonna make me lonesome when you go

    Yer gonna make me wonder what I’m doin’
    Stayin’ far behind without you
    Yer gonna make me wonder what I’m sayin’
    Yer gonna make me give myself a good talkin’ to

    I’ll look for you in old Honolulu
    San Francisco, Ashtabula
    Yer gonna have to leave me now, I know
    But I’ll see you in the sky above
    In the tall grass, in the ones I love
    Yer gonna make me lonesome when you go

    Since I don’t make fun of Dum-dum enough:

    [Shall make no] Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, A1 S10 C1

    That is, neither the Executive nor anyone else can simply decide the contract between two private parties doesn’t exist. He definitively does NOT have this power. Even and especially for evictions. Or that is to say, to wield it, he would have to open 100 million court cases, break the contract via eminent domain, have them adjudicated successfully, and compensate each landlord accordingly. But that leads to this: “It does not matter what Trump would like; it is what the Constitution will allow.”

    Hahahahaha. Ah Master Turley, an you’re an adult? And they let you out of the house? We haven’t followed the Constitution in 100 years, if ever, and neither Judicial, Congress, nor the people will lift a finger to enforce any said “laws” or “Constitutions.” Clearly. For example, nothing about quarantines, fines, or shutdowns was passed in any laws at all. None. The Resistance House itself, far from cutting the purse strings they clearly and rightfully control, instead give MORE money to Dictatorial Executive, under Trump as much as Obama, Bush, Clinton, into the distant pre-history of Roosevelt and Wilson, Lincoln even. You’re so silly you’re adorable. Tell me the last time the law mattered here, my great-great-grandpappy would love to hear it.

    However, things must be truly bad in the Blue Man Group, for they have skipped from winning, you know, with a candidate who is verbal, to jacking the media, and electronic voting rigging that put many districts with 110% of voters voting blue (as Jill Stein’s Detroit audit showed, but also Philly and L.A) to mail-in voting that has 20% of Paterson NJ missing and the NAACP in both NJ and OR protesting, now into the new war-games yesterday, by Sir John Podesta.

    They assume Biden will 100% of course win — any other thought is unthinkable – and that therefore what must happen is that mail-in elections are NOT counted, but are delayed. As it is literally G-D impossible to count them. States then refuse to send results, or the Governor sends one set of Electors and the Legislature another. Therefore, the election is NOT counted, and the decision of President falls to – gosh and by golly, only if she didn’t want the terrible mantle! The weight of the nation upon her! Nancy Pelosi. Oh, the goodness of her blessed heart! Just as she said, should something happen, she is in charge. “Just because he might not want to move out of the White House doesn’t mean we won’t have an inauguration ceremony to inaugurate a duly elected president of the United States. And I guess, you know, I’m second in line to the presidency.” Yes, and if the election is delayed, the House will simply APPOINT a President via the Legal, Constitutional, “Duly elected” process. Not that anyone just suggested on Twitter yesterday so that everyone blue would oppose it as ridiculous and impossible.

    I’m sure that’ll all work out great. The people seem fully behind the recent forays into arson, murder, and extortion and the Army, police, and all Americans with small arms are clearly on-board too. That’s why they didn’t ask the people and are doing this instead. Yeah, Podesta, DNC brain-trust doesn’t think so either, so…

    Mr. Podesta therefore said, WHEN they lose the election, AND lose the public support AND probably Pelosi’s attempt at appointing President by the Speaker of the House all fail, they will have the American West (CA, OR, and WA) secede from the nation. All points of this seem accurate and the very most likely outcome. How far they get with it is another question, as everyone in every city is already buying a gun, opposing it, and fleeing to Red, leaving a cratered tax-base, but they can certainly make a mess for a while. But that’s the least-bad civil war we could expect, having slept for 50 years of pure insolent neglect while it was openly, purposefully, and transparently arranged.

    So yes, the present plan isn’t even to win, lose, draw, or delay: it’s to make such an altar to Chaos, their God and master, that no one can figure it out. And lying, breaking things, is easy! It’s creating things and working that is hard. But what did you expect with a death cult opposed to all logic roaming around with nail-enhanced explosives, bricks, and firearms shooting at (black) 14-year olds while openly extorting raft-escaping Cubans in their own (successful) restaurants.

    The media tested the said Mail-ins the other day to prove how it was all made-up fake news. Mail-ins are G r e a t ! ! ! Better, even. Instead, 100% of the ballots were lost in the mail. When they demanded the Post Office find them, the manager finally did, and yet 3% remained missing – well beyond the margin-of-error. This matches what the NAACP found in Paterson NJ. Q stuff indeed, since this has been reported for years, Google “fraud, NY Times” and you can find articles on it going back, 2012, 2014 last time I believe, along with all the other stuff that was true 5 minutes ago, but when it hurts “our side right or wrong” suddenly becomes untrue again. Until it isn’t. Then it is. So please, mail Kenneth Clayton at the NAACP and tell him all about how when 20% of the vote is missing he’s a Q-Trump conspiracy supporter.

    P.S. don’t mistake Absentee ballots for Mail-in voting as they are trying to do. Each are different in important ways. It’s also one thing if you have no idea who the very few absentees are vs ballots reliably going to every house with no accounting. We already have hundreds of stories of ballots arriving at old addresses, for cats and dogs, multiples arriving at one house, and so on. Are all hundred stories false? When they are so many they even arrive at random reporters houses? Out of State? Stealing NAACP voters who then could not participate? Or what?

    Reality is whatever I think it is, whatever I want it to be. Whatever 99.94% says it is. That is to say, whatever is popular this week. That is our new consensus reality.

    SQ
    https://snicket.fandom.com/wiki/Esm%C3%A9_Squalor?file=LoveFreaks.png” alt=”SQ”

    “You’re either in or you’re out.” –Esme Squalor
    “You’re either for us or against us.” — W.

    And who is “In” changes minute-by-minute. Now Noam Chompksy, JK Rowling, Margaret Atwood, and Gloria Steinem are “Out”. And by out we mean they are to be cancelled, fired, and possibly killed. You’re next.

    Or we could choose objective facts and evidence. Return to the #Logos. Your choice.

    #61820
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    Oregon is the state I’m most familiar with, and Oregon has had, as far as I can tell, corruption-free voting for a long time (decades, at this point). Here is my concern: according to Ballotpedia.org, there are only three states that currently employ voting by mail as the primary method: Oregon, Washington, and Colorado. That means that you’ve got 47 other states and a couple of territories that will have to scramble to put a system in place. They will have to formulate procedures, buy equipment, test it, and deploy it all, in the midst of a pandemic with reduced efficiency, in a three to six month time frame (depending on when they woke up to the impending crisis). Even prior to the pandemic, hell prior to Trump, there were serious questions about the integrity of the US voting system (looking at you, blackboxvoting.org); as it stands now, we are looking at a clusterf*ck of epic proportions come November. Those 47 other states may manage to get the nominal job of printing, mailing, and tallying of ballots done, but there is no way that they’re going to be effective at verifying chain of custody and voter verification.

    #61821
    Huskynut
    Participant

    In the spirit of the voting theme today, here’s an interesting article I came across by an ex-Prime Minister of Iceland on his observation of the effects of social media on Icelandic governments over time:
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/17/social-media-the-state-of-things-to-come/

    #61822
    John Day
    Participant

    I’m really going to put up an essay and some more intellectual-doom-porn links tomorrow.
    I’ve had a lot of irons-in-the-fire recently, or maybe the same, but less fire…

    #61823
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    And who is “In” changes minute-by-minute. Now Noam Chompksy, JK Rowling, Margaret Atwood, and Gloria Steinem are “Out”. And by out we mean they are to be cancelled, fired, and possibly killed. You’re next.

    I am particularly impressed by J.K. Rowling’s response to the Trans propaganda campaign and cancel culture; kudos to her and her integrity. As an aside; I have not read any of Rowling’s books and have no intention to do so…

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