Debt Rattle August 4 2021
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August 4, 2021 at 9:01 am #82226Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
René Magritte The son of man 1946 • Fauci and the NIH Knew Covid-19 “Vaccines” Could Lead to ADE (Ghion) • Informed Consent Disclosure To Vacci
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle August 4 2021]August 4, 2021 at 9:38 am #82227a kullervoParticipantRe: ADE
Another day, another acronym, another way for people to lose their marbles.
August 4, 2021 at 11:40 am #82232those darned kidsParticipant¡viva los rednecks!
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cross your toes!
August 4, 2021 at 11:42 am #82234sumac.carolParticipantCOVID-19 only kills people who were flu vaccinated.
I’ m not sure if the work of Judy Mikovits has been covered yet here (see link).
Highlights: Cellular and molecular biologist Judy Mikovits, Ph.D. believes COVID-19 — the disease — is not caused by SARS-CoV-2 alone, but rather that it’s the result of a combination of SARS-CoV-2 and XMRVs (human gammaretroviruses)
SARS-CoV-2 also appears to have been manipulated to include components of HIV that destroys immune function along with XMRVs
Those already infected with XMRVs may end up getting serious COVID-19 infection and/or die from the disease. Mikovits’s research suggests more than 30 million Americans carry XMRVs and other gammaretroviruses in their bodies from contaminated vaccines and blood supply
Mikovits believes 40 years of data suggest Type 1 interferon at very low dose would be an ideal treatment for COVID-19
RT-PCR (reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction) testing, currently used to diagnose active infection by detecting the presence of SARS-CoV-2 genetic material, overestimates infection rates. For an accurate account of COVID-19 prevalence, we need to test for antibodies
Judy Mikovits, Ph.D. is a cellular and molecular biologist,1 researcher and was the founding research director of the Whittemore Peterson Institute that researches and treats chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) in Reno, Nevada.August 4, 2021 at 11:55 am #82235V. ArnoldParticipantThe quantity of posts increases, as the quality reduces…
Sad, but inevitable?
I don’t know……………
…but I notice the donated money runs flat…I wonder why…
TAE is a gem, but values as a mere pebble on the beach…August 4, 2021 at 12:05 pm #82237Mister RobotoParticipant@VA: Yeah, the “chit-chat” posts sometimes take up more space than they really should, but this place remains a rich, beautiful oasis compared to the moral and intellectual Sahara Desert that is the modern Internet.
August 4, 2021 at 12:19 pm #82239Polder DwellerParticipantThe next Covid variant could kill up to one in THREE people: SAGE warns
This article in the DM, which came out a few days ago, is clearly intended to soften up the (in this case British) public ahead of a possible mass ADE scenario in the coming autumn/winter. The official story will be that it’s the dangerous new variant they warned everyone about back in the summer.
August 4, 2021 at 12:32 pm #82241Dr. DParticipant“The Smoking Jab: Fauci and the NIH Knew Covid-19 “Vaccines” Could Lead to Antibody-Dependent Enhancement”
https://ghionjournal.com/fauci-nih-knew-covid-19-vaccines-could-lead-antibody-dependent-enhancement/And as no good deed goes unpunished:
“Tuesday, August 3, 2021, 3:35 PM – This morning, our website was hit with a severe denial-of-service attack as more than 2 million hits from bots based in China took Ghion Journal offline for more than two hours only to be hit with another DOS attack this afternoon. IP addresses can be spoofed so there’s no way of knowing who is responsible. What we do know is that this level of coordinated attack cannot be pulled off by lone individuals; this was either a state act or the work of powerful institutions with the financial means and the technical know-how to pull off such a brazen act of criminal censorship.”
Of course for some of us, that’s all the confirmation we need. If they posted Queen Elizabeth was Sasquatch, and got a DoS attack of this level, at this point I’d believe it was true. So thanks for the seal of approval, fellows! It really saves time!
…Of course the other half is, we already know ADE was the prime reason mRNAs couldn’t get any approval or have any successes after 10 years of trying. So bad, so much wasted, they were at risk of bankruptcy if it failed. …Not that that’s a motive or anything. Fine ethical companies who pay billions for killing 10k humans yearly would never avoid bankruptcy by lying and by being the prime donors to health organizations and sharing patents with all the pivots decision-makers. Heavens, no.
“This is not some fluke occurrence that could not have been foreseen, “vaccines” that produce spiked proteins by way of mRNA or adenovirus were studied on lab animals—specifically ferrets and cats because they are more susceptible to Coronavirus—for over twenty years. Though the test subjects initially acquired synthetic antibodies, once their immunization window expired and they were challenged with SARS-CoV-1, the lab animals that were injected with the “vaccines” were wiped out. The warning on NIH’s website was alluding to this very real possibility but the very authorities we entrust to protect us instead concealed this information and conditioned billions of people to get jabbed without informed consent. Every plutocrat, politician and opinion leader who took part in this conspiracy of silence should be frogmarched and tried before an international tribunal similar to the trials Nazis faced after World War II for violating the Nuremberg codes and committing brutalities that will once day be judged to exceed the evils of Hitler.”
Well, we have no choice but to all find out, do we?
“Italy Denying the Right to Vote if Unvaccinated”
But of course! They have the yellow patches and bracelets! The stinky “Won’t do what they’re tolds” don’t deserve the right to vote because, are they human really? We don’t allow other murderers to vote, so why them? …I mean other than every member of Congress, Parliament, 10 Downing, all White Houses, every MoD and Pentagon, every Wall St, and City, every ECB and WHO, etc. Those guys are alright.
…It’s called the “True Scotsman Fallacy.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman If you were a real Italian, citizen, etc, you’d get vaccinated. But you didn’t, so you’re not a true, actual Italian, citizen, human, etc. QED. I rest my case.
Who decides? Power. The purpose of power is power. Power is used to overcome reason. Otherwise, what’s the point? To do things that would have happened anyway? No. OBVIOUSLY the only reason for it is to be #AntiMeritocracy and #AntiDemocracy, #AntiLogical, to harm people and not help them. If you help someone, they’ll cooperate voluntarily, in free market exchange. That is, Capitalism.If they’ll pay $1,000 for the vaccine, will they pay $10,000? Asking for a friend.
Ezla—yes, they’ll be very surprised when their plan to reduce Oz to slavery hasn’t deterred them much at all. When you’re overwhelming majority, flagpoles, ball-peen hammers and Nerf bats are more than adequate. And guns are so 16th century. In the 21st, the people who use them are the losers. People who use humor are the winners. The Yanks are the best example: they’ve done everything they can think of since 1994 to get rednecks to take a swing. There’s no offense they haven’t attempted, no affront they haven’t tried. Because they think in terms of violence, don’t understand Americans at all, and believe their own bulls—t. And so, every offense, like 1/6 most recently, has utterly failed, mocking them, while year after year, American values slowly take ground. The main thing is, because THEY believe in violence, our being armed scares the h— out of THEM. Not us. And ultimately would be handy, but not until the last extreme. Not now at all. Now while they’re under extreme pressure, but we’ve barely gotten off the couch.
Pressure? Yes, they’re printing $1T a day to hold it together, then draining $1T every night. Couch? Yes, Americans have hardly got up to school board meetings yet, and they’re already being steamrolled. CNN, NFL, NBA, bankrupt.
Do what suits Oz, although being mostly rural, did that law REALLY make any sense? To leave everyone outside of Melbourne defenseless as in “Road Warrior (I)”? That was terribly rude to your minority fellows, the rural Aussies, and all for what? Crime went up. Just repeal it and trust yourself. If you can’t trust yourselves, who can you? It’s possible it was causation and crime will also go down as well.
Hale: Well in Obama’s defense, he didn’t kill EVERY black and brown person worldwide. Just every one near a drone. And in America, he only stole their houses.
Deflationista is of course right about group-think. But we have opinions, each based on our evidence, biases, and more. How can you not? Or not express them? What would “express” mean? To look at what one or another person sees as clearly illogical or clearly unsupported, that Lizard people wear rubber masks or that the Military isn’t lying, and yet say, “Good job, good sir”? So that’s pretty difficult because of COURSE you say, “Are you for real? That’s ridiculous, and so is the horse you rode in on.” Perhaps there is another way humans can disagree and this is why we have proctored debate structures and Queensbury Rules, but that’s vanishingly rare everywhere.
There are
infinitevery high number of ways to pattern any raw data together. Intel agencies have this problem all the time, as their opposite Intel agencies try to feed them such misdirection. We’re not immune. We’re trying to know which way the “Rabbit Hole” lies that people seem to be sliding down. Is it toward more trusting of the CIA, FBI, Congress, and CNN? Is it the opposite? Is it towards war? Away from it? Is it when you try to get FoIAs, audits, discovery lawsuits, hidden cameras? Or when you do all you can including prison to prevent those things? Is it when you want people to speak openly, publish, print books, retain self defense? Or when they don’t?Obviously to me (and no surprise), we of course, with Kunstler and Greenwald and Taibbi you respect, all think the authorities and establishments have lost their minds and are lying pretty continuously. …That should be the least surprising thing on earth for anyone who’s read history or a cynic like yourself. I mean, “Pentagon Papers?” “WMDs and ties to Al-q”? And if they are lying, trust is broken and it’s easier to credit OTHER authorities, even medical ones, as also lying to us continuously. Especially when in a short window, it seems they probably are, like being able to read their own contradicting internal memos and emails, seeing proof-of-funding, seeing their promises evaporate again and again, while our freedoms are lost again and again. So WE of course, think we’re all coming into alignment, Blue Dogs (HK), far-lefts(GG), and Constitutionalists (whoever) because as facts are exposed though behavior or FoIAs, we’re realizing the same truth that has been underneath all along. And it’s not pretty. But that’s just one way to look at it and clearly the Left, CNN, or cynics as yourself disagree and assemble the patterns in a different way.
We’re all pretty tired of dumb. But the dumb seems to be because as Casey said, “Everything the (American) people believes is a lie.” …That we fed to them. On purpose. For power, and profit. And the chicks, Jeff says. No news there, has it ever NOT been this way? They just got a bit further with the eternal underlying desires of all humans. Or further than in recent history. The excesses of pre-revolutionary France no doubt put all this to shame.
So what are you supposed to do when it’s pretty clear everything people say now, or have said in your life, has mostly been a lie, and you can prove it with document requests? Clearly the people on the “other side” as it were are as much victims as villains, and as you say, your own side is hardly better.
Sure. We all agree. Therefore the way to determine who is who is also perfectly easy: Do they want, allow, and encourage discovery, release of information, and audits, and committees? Do they allow people to freely make their own choices? Are they attacking and imprisoning whistle blowers, document leakers, journalists, and people attempting to assemble and publish information? Do they cooperate with open agreements or push their will using methods of violence, deceit, and war? Stuff like that.
And it’s fine if Cheeto is also doing all that. We know. Unless pressed, hardly anyone WOULD be for all transparency and cooperation as it makes power and position that much harder to use. But that’s because power is then held to accountability, and restraint, balance of powers, and so on. So they can get away with less. People who spend lives trying to get into power don’t want that seat so they can then do and change nothing with it. We understand. But that’s why they need overseers, their peers, accountants, open documents, all that, to keep them honest and in line.
Who is doing that? Neither side? Okay, but how do you assemble the playing field, and how do you promote and prosecute your own goals on that field? That’s where the ultimate cynicism isn’t helpful. Surely SOMETHING makes sense, and you can use the prejudices of the various teams to accomplish SOMETHING you desire.
There’s always dumb people. Mostly dumb people. Busy people. People who believe childish things, whatever, like any soldier or workman you work with them to get somewhere, don’t you? Like being on a bus? Now you can shoot everyone and hold them hostage, or sing “Flintstones” and get them on your side so we all steer together. I guess you could jump out and go it alone, but that seems extreme.
I’d find out why it’s emotional. Is EVERYBODY wrong, and you’re right? (Maybe) Is everybody a fool and knows nothing, including you? Great, no doubt that’s the most true, but how do you ACT? This is the world we’re all stuck in. Do what’s helpful. Not only for others, but for yourself as well.
Me, I want discussions, including you, and open access to all the records we can, with stiff and real penalties for lying or doctoring written or verbal statements. Only then can we figure out what’s going on and do something with it. Which although always good, is a base requirement for a Democracy where the people decide. Decide on bad, false, leading information? Never, nothing moves until we have good, honest information, however bad decision-makers we are. It’s not enough to say “We can’t.” “Humans don’t know, can’t know, can’t be sure.” So what? You don’t get out of acting because you don’t know if it’s a rabbit or a tiger under the bush. Life itself is this problem. So that makes me allies with anyone who gets records, reveals them, or is punished for telling them. Because I don’t know or trust, I don’t know or trust Doctors, Governments, Corporations either and am allies with anyone who will press them to leave me alone. Because they won’t, I need stiff self-defense, legally and physically. And because nobody wants a life of badgered self-defense, I want them as small, helpless, and equal to me as possible. …And all that puts me on the side of the Enlightenment, Locke, and therefore the Constitution. It’s not that hard; they had the same problems in 1770 too.
So here I am. What do you stand for?
“This new way of thinking was more hostile to freedom of speech, and its adherents began the process of chasing [out] deviant thinkers … it was anti-religion and would become more so when religion clashed with sexual rights. As for freedom of association, the “master freedom” in Christopher Caldwell’s words, this was also incompatible with a worldview that prioritised equality over liberty.
“According to The Land Report, 100 families own 42 million acres across the country. The Gates family barely breaks the top 50.
We noticed corporations owned almost all the houses.
the Obama administration launched a program making it easier for private investors like AMR and Blackrock to acquire foreclosed homes by the hundreds. The plan worked. According to The Atlantic, institutional investors jumped into the housing market, buying foreclosed properties then renting them out. The billions in transferred middle-class wealth made inequality worse.”
Good thing / Bad thing? For / Against? Act? Or do not Act? You don’t get out of it. Acting and choosing is who you are.
August 4, 2021 at 12:34 pm #82242madamski cafoneParticipantFreedom Fighter Court VICTORY! Ends Masking, Shots, Quarantine in Alberta!
Could we have a bit less chit-chat about whose chit-chat is better/worse than others? We want scoring, we’ll watch the Olympics.
August 4, 2021 at 12:38 pm #82243deflationistaParticipantFor two days now, I have been trying to post something here. It is lengthy- so I tried chopping it up into sections. Even that failed. As I was trying to do all of this, Dr. D’s long post came through which is about the length of my post. I copied his text and pasted it into google docs and it is a similar word count.
What am I doing wrong? Or am I being throttled?
Please advise.
August 4, 2021 at 12:43 pm #82244Polder DwellerParticipantHeidelberg chief pathologist calls for more autopsies of vaccinated people
“The chief pathologist at the University of Heidelberg, Peter Schirmacher, urges many more autopsies of vaccinated people. In addition to corona deaths, the corpses of people who die in connection with a vaccination would also have to be examined more frequently, said Schirmacher of the German Press Agency in Stuttgart.
“The director of the Pathological Institute in Heidelberg even warns of a high number of unreported cases of vaccination deaths and complains: The pathologists do not notice anything about most of the patients who die after and possibly from a vaccination. However, other scientists disagree with him on this point, as do the Standing Vaccination Commission (Stiko) and the Paul Ehrlich Institute.
“The doctor now wants to get to the bottom of rare, serious side effects of vaccination – such as cerebral vein thrombosis or autoimmune diseases. The problem from his point of view: Vaccinated people usually do not die under clinical observation. “The doctor examining the corpse does not establish a context with the vaccination and certifies a natural death and the patient is buried,” reports Schirmacher. “Or he certifies an unclear type of death and the public prosecutor sees no third-party fault and releases the corpse for burial.”
“In Baden-Württemberg, the pathologists therefore worked with public prosecutors, the police and resident doctors, reports Schirmacher. More than 40 people have already been autopsied who died within two weeks of being vaccinated. Schirmacher assumes that 30 to 40 percent of them died from the vaccination. In his opinion, the frequency of fatal consequences of vaccinations is underestimated – a politically explosive statement in times when the vaccination campaign is losing momentum, the delta variant is spreading rapidly and restrictions on non-vaccinated people are being discussed.
Die Welt (German)
August 4, 2021 at 12:57 pm #82245madamski cafoneParticipant“Just over half of Americans who remain unvaccinated against Covid-19 still believe the vaccine is more dangerous than the coronavirus — despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, according to a new survey published Wednesday.” (from some worthless CNN article not worth linking.)
Sometimes it’s good to be a kook.
^&*
deflationista:
I seem to have no problems posting. If ye like, send them to pastmastergeneral@gmail.com and I’ll try posting them for you.
August 4, 2021 at 1:01 pm #82247Mister RobotoParticipantThey must be having quite the snowball fight in Hell right now. Dr. D wrote a long post that made discernible sense and that I mostly agreed with!
@deflationista: If your post has a large number of links in it, it could possibly be running afoul of the spam-filtering mechanisms of the site. Otherwise, I don’t know what to tell you. That is odd indeed.August 4, 2021 at 1:03 pm #82248Mr. HouseParticipantWhat is your point? Please explain your last post or edit before posting, esp if its going to be something that long.
August 4, 2021 at 1:05 pm #82249Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterdef,
your post is up. maybe what you do wrong is not check that.
August 4, 2021 at 1:05 pm #82250madamski cafoneParticipant“No wall high enough, no ocean large enough to protect us from the vakzine…” says Joe “Tailgunner” Biden
The Freudian slippage grows tectonic.
August 4, 2021 at 1:07 pm #82251madamski cafoneParticipantdeflationista’s post isn’t up in my part of the web. no deflatiionista here. Looks like it’s a distibuted architecture issue? The cloud acting cloudy?
August 4, 2021 at 1:08 pm #82252deflationistaParticipantDEVIL SPERM ATE MY BABY!
“Those who know, don’t say. Those who say, don’t know.” That quote changed things for me. I used to be an active participant here and in other forums like this way back in the day. Jay Hanson and I used to go back and forth. (You wanna talk about a flaming liberal? Jay was your guy.) For a while there, even Kunstler got involved. But, when I heard that quote… man. It stopped me in my tracks. It kind of made sense. What the fuck did I know? And why was I saying so much? I ended my ‘career’ as a full time participant in these types of forums. Which leads me to another concept. “We don’t know what we don’t know.” That’s right boys and girls- your friends and mine- Dunning and Kruger. Hand in hand, these two concepts seem to flourish in these spaces. We have a bunch of “experts” saying things. Apparently, they “know” all sorts of shit. But what they don’t know is, they don’t know what they don’t know. Capiche? Typically, the dominant personalities take over. The better writers keep posting. If you have both attributes, look out! But for most people in these forums, they get intimidated. They try to raise their hand and make a comment or pipe in with an opinion only to be swatted back in line by the established pecking order. That’s how these forums tend to settle. Hell, that’s how things settle in real life. Most people just end up lurking- head down, lips zipped. I mean, look what happened when I came here to raise a red flag about information that apparently is taken as gospel by the general AE populace. You all get ruffled feathers. I become some “naive” idiot that you might as well “tolerate” because the group deems me a low threat to the order. Someone even gave me a sort of rating. You attack this Yuri dude as if he is some deep state agent planted to disseminate vaccine propaganda. I mean, someone insinuated I was a plant by the CIA or the NSA and it was only a matter of time before ‘a person like me’ shows up. That’s a common response in these darkened times when people say things that run counter to your precious narrative. I didn’t even know who Yuri was until the day I watched that video. Who the fuck cares what his credentials are? That somehow negates his analysis of shitty data used by ivermectin and anti-vax propagandists? If credentials are so important, then what the fuck are yours? I found a great About Us page today on a blog called Skeptical Raptor. They suggest credentials don’t really matter: “Mr. Andrew Wakefield presumably attended medical school, and he perpetrated one of the largest medical frauds in the history of mankind. Linus Pauling won two Nobel Prizes, yet wrote pseudoscientific books about vitamin C, which has no effect on or colds. Tetyana Obukhanych has a Ph.D. in immunology, and she hasn’t written one accurate thing about vaccines. The only thing that matters is evidence, not false authority.”
Some person suggested that I am a sucker for big government or big pharma. Someone considers me to be a sheep who is “selling pro-covid firewater”. What the fuck does that even mean? What the fuck is going on in this world? And then ironically enough, I see some commentary in someone’s post suggesting, and rightfully so, that QAnon (and I am paraphrasing), is “out there”? Oh, theeey’re out there? But the weird narratives being spun here are….. perfectly acceptable?! Makes sense! Does anyone ever examine their own biases? Their own personal flavor of conspiracy? Maybe being in these echo chambers is not conducive to open dialogue or learning afterall? Maybe they don’t allow new ideas to penetrate the hardened shell? Just wondering out loud. I see it as a devolving feedback loop that eventually hones the community into a homogenous sort of groupthink. Does anyone consider how they may be Dunning-Kruger’s latest sucker? Are you one of those who knows? Or one of those who says?
Something is surely afoot in this god forsaken country where even critical thinking is frowned upon as long as it ain’t critical of the agreed upon narrative. And madame cafone hit on it earlier when she said that the “sides have been drawn” or something like that and nothing will change that. She got that right, by god. I came here to post a little teeny tiny bit of needed push back on articles and graphics emanating from people like Kory, Lawrie, Weinstein, FLCCC, BiRD. I started to see people like Raul and Nicole, people I consider my mentors, post these things more and more, without even the slightest sniff of disclaimer. Apparently this shit is real and everyone knows it! I have friends sharing those same exact graphics and YouTube interviews on their social media platforms. My friends fell right into every goddamn trap set by the antivax, antiliberal campaign. Kristin is unapproachable at this point. Like some wild animal hybrid of a honey badger and Marjorie Taylor Greene. She is completely lost in a world dominated by dumb right wing memes and hateful groupthink. She is the ultimate antivaxxer. Well, only until you consider my friend Karen, who makes Kristin look like Linus fucking Pauling. Karen’s kid won’t be going to college because her school of choice requires a covid shot. I get it. I do. I can see taking a stand. But Karen’s kid doesn’t have any vaccines. Neither do Kristin’s kids. Walking freely in society living on the immunity provided by others, kinda like the welfare leeches they like to complain about. Both are deep in the rabbit hole of believing that Fauci is pure, unadulterated evil. Satan incarnate. Just like Bill Gates, except Bill Gates is worse! That’s because Bill is attempting to depopulate the planet, so he and Fauci developed the virus, and the vaccine to cure it, so that they could not only kill some people right off, but then track the survivors through microchips floating in the covid vaccines. Never mind that both Kristin and Karen carry a fucking cell phone everywhere they go and have been tracked by the NSA for like 20 years now. They use the same phrases I have heard here like “Great Reset” or “Big Purge”. You see that language used in a lot of places these days. Funny thing that none of them seem to consider, just for entertainment purposes, is that maybe the global elites did indeed create the virus to kill off some of the overflow- what with overpopulation and resource depletion, and the coming climate crisis. What better way to cull the herd? But maybe instead of the vaccine being a poison to kill you, it actually serves as a lifeboat of sorts. They knew damn well who would and who wouldn’t take the jab. And looking at the demographics of who actually is and who isn’t getting jabbed, maybe their plan is going according to plan? Maybe conservatives, blacks, and latinos should call their bluff? Maybe you are the one’s being purged? At least though, you’ll die free. Libs owned! High five! It might make a good sci-fi novel. But I digress.
You could see the looney wave coming from a mile away. Look at Jim Kunstler fer chrissakes. Are you kidding me? If you think that this man has not changed over the years, you either just started reading him, or you are just as far down the same rabbit hole that he is. I love the guy. Don’t get me wrong. But my man started to repeat similar editorials that he must have been hearing on Fox News. In an almost completely transparent way, almost word for word. I could watch Fox during the week, and then read Jim on Friday, and know exactly where he got his “talking points” for his essays. I admit that I slid down the same holes. It’s a slippery slope for sure. Look at Glenn Greenwald. Even Matt Taibi. You should read Nate Robinson’s new article on how these two slid down that hole over the last several years. I don’t agree with everything Nate Robinson says, but goddamn, he tapped into a sentiment that I know I’m not alone in feeling. And, Nate has receipts.
Seems like old Donald really did a number on the mindset of this country. It’s like he turned on a light in a hot Phoenix apartment in the middle of the night. Roaches that we never knew existed, it turns out, were everywhere. It was fucking refreshing to have someone not give a shit about what he said, or how he said it. Grab ‘em by the pussy didn’t even phase anyone. Me too. I mean, me neither. I was so damn tired and I wasn’t going to take it anymore. Nothing phased us. He wasn’t a typical politician, we said. He is not a fascist, we said. He loves America, we said. And the whole Russian BS really sealed the deal for a lot of people. I think that’s when Kunstler really started losing his footing in the rabbit hole. He slipped in the mud, and just kept on sliding. There were times over the last several years where you could not differentiate between Jim’s Monday or Friday rants and Hannity’s nightly editorials. I know. It’s no biggy if that’s the case. But what was a big deal for me was knowing that my dude- my man- Jim fucking Kunstler, drank some sort of alt-right Kool-Aid. He was now reduced to just some weird, smarter version of Mark Levin or Kurt Schlichter. He lost his essence. He lost his life force and became just another stale voice in a shallow sea of crackers. Just like Glenn Greenwald. Just like Matt Taibi. They morphed into something akin to catty sorority girls who got butt hurt that they weren’t invited to Delta Chi’s homecoming party and now just can’t let it go. But there is a hard edge to their commentary. A meanness. A real honest to god hatred for establishment liberal figures and policies. It gurgles from their depths like the slow, early boil of a thick tar. It seemed that they just couldn’t help but lose themselves to it. Like the power of Mordor. Or as if they were bitten by some walker before Rick Grimes could chop its head off. Now, they seem fully turned, unable to come back to the world of the living. Trapped in some darkened hologram of reality consisting of heavy revenge and mean tweets. What a sad turn of events. We need those fresh voices. The voices that once bashed everyone equally for being tools of the system. Now Jim and Glenn and a lot of you here just bash in one direction. As if the side your bashing from isn’t a gigantic part of the problem. Somehow tough, working class guys and gals everywhere are OK worshiping an effeminate elitist prig who, and this I promise, hates you more than he hates a steady breeze or an Adam “Shifty” Schiff press conference. He loathes his followers. He loathes you. I promise. Think about it. Nicole Foss used to be part of this beautiful place. Trump ended that. But many here probably think of her the same way you think of me- some snowflake liberal tool who does the bidding of the big government establishment. Someone who needs to be discounted because they haven’t eaten the right color pill. And the same does apply equally in the other direction. The “other” is always part of some odd conspiracy it seems for both parties. Remember when Jim used to stress the fact that he is allergic to conspiracies? I just had to throw that in. Raylan Givens had a great quote in the TV show Justfied: “If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you’re the asshole.” Maybe something to think about.
I loathe liberals. Maybe more than I loathe whatever the fuck the right has become. Liberals are more insidious because they pretend to care. Cons just don’t bother pretending. Someone earlier thanked this forum for steering them to a red state to live. Oh yeah? Good luck with that. I live in the reddest of all states. It ain’t Texas. My state makes Texas look like fucking Cuba. My state has a bunch of Karens and Kristins running around in it and a bunch of other morons who don’t have a pot to piss in and think that libruls lurk around every corner trying to take their freedumbs. A BLM peaceful protest happened last year in my state where families with kids and signs came out in solidarity with George Floyd, and what happened next really made me take pause. Hundreds of armed “patriots”, some wearing Nazi tats and garb surrounded, intimidated, and assaulted peaceful protesters. People were hit with flags poles, punched in the back of their heads, other people (women) were pushed down stairs, racist things were screamed over a megaphone. It was like a preview of what some of us saw those tourists doing at the Capitol on Jan 6th. I’ll tell you. I am so fucking tired of the dumbness of America. Blue State America is D.U.M.B. Red State America is D.U.M.B.E.R. We are dumb all over, just like Zappa said. And a little ugly on the side. I was able to find my footing during the pandemic. I was sliding down the same slippery slopes as many of you, Kunstler, Greenwald, etc., but the excruciating dumbness on display this last year just snapped me out of whatever trance I was under and I started climbing out of that dark, muddy hole. Take Ivermectin for a fake virus! <Wait, what?>…. Vaccine makes you infertile! <Oh my god thats terrible news>…. Dr. Fauci is evil! <Ok, but…>… Bill Gates is eviler! <Wow, I had no idea>… Ivermectin cures covid 100%! <Holy shit! Why is it being censored?>… Hydroxychloroquin works! <But I thought…>… There are microchips in the vaccine! <Are you sure that’s possible?>…. The vaccine is more dangerous than covid! <FUCK!>…. You become magnetized if you get the shot! <HOLY SHIT!>…. Demon sperm! <Say that again?!>…. There are no excess deaths from covid! <Wait, no one died?>…. Alien DNA is being used in medicine!… <You…actually…>…. Inject some bleach, you say? “We oughta look into that, Brownie… You’re doin’ a heckuva job”….. Oh wait, I got my decades mixed up. Really people. Get a grip. We had a White Coat Summit of Donald’s favorite doctors for god’s sake. Do you know how stupid you have to be to believe some of this shit? I’m sorry. But this is lunacy. We ain’t wrapped tight.
Not everyone, especially your normal everyday sciencey type, is out to get you or in on some deep, centuries long conspiracy. If scientific consensus doesn’t confirm your bias, you don’t just disregard it as some nonsense propaganda or proof of some sinister agenda. Like Raylan Givens said, “you’re the asshole.” Just because someone is a doctor, doesn’t mean they can’t be bat shit crazy. Just think of Trump’s favorite- Dr. Stella Immanuel. You should question your own beliefs, especially the one’s you hold dearest. They are often the one’s that you got all wrong somewhere along the line. And I would definitely question any data or claim you hear from Kory, Lawrie, etc. It just ain’t science. It’s kind of creepy even. Why wouldn’t you want to have all available data to inform your opinion? I’ve got no skin in the game other than the fact that their claims and methodology are so blatantly skewed that I just want to see them answer for it.
Thanks for reading this long rambling rant. I am taking care of my mom who is dying of Stage IV leiomyosarcoma so I have a lot of time to write and reflect. It’s a damn sad state of affairs here. Life is too short to let your mind calcify into hate and cynicism and conspiracy. I am speaking to myself. And maybe you too. But, don’t listen to me. I just don’t know. Do you?
August 4, 2021 at 1:10 pm #82253deflationistaParticipantThanks madame and Mister Roboto for your offers of help. Mister Robot, you were correct about too many hyperlinks. I removed and sent. It worked!
August 4, 2021 at 1:13 pm #82254those darned kidsParticipantodd? i’ve had posts rejected with no links, no odd characters (besides the author!), short, long, no matter..
some i’ve just scrapped. others, madamski has helped with links (thanks!). some i edit, others i break up.
i always copy now before i hit submit. i am more surprised when a post goes through than not.
again, thanks for a place here. i don’t write lengthy posts with stats and facts – those areas are well covered by many excellent commentators. i do hope my approach of cynical humour adds something. every court needs a fool, for if we can’t laugh at ourselves..
August 4, 2021 at 1:13 pm #82255Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymasterso now we have that same long post two days in a row! winning!
August 4, 2021 at 1:13 pm #82256Mister RobotoParticipant@dee: I saw and responded to that post on the previous thread. I don’t know why it didn’t show up on your browser, other than the fact that the blog-software around here is kind of kludgey and janky, like a lot of website software on the Internet these days. This probably isn’t it, but one thing you might need to make sure of is that you are clicking the final page number for comment threads that go over one page.
August 4, 2021 at 1:23 pm #82257madamski cafoneParticipantSorry for your troubles, deflationista. Yes, everything gets filtered through personal ego and bias on the net as in reality at large.
But you haven’t provided anything of substance that gives me reason to revise my views on things like the covid vakzines.
Yes, a wide range of opinions are found here, most of them in agreement that the Official Narrative is bunk. From there, things vary widely, and mostly with the above-mentioned biases intact. Yes, many of those opinions show a degree of paranoiac rationalizing rather than genuine rational critique, just like the pronouncements coming from the authorities, from Kunstler, from me, and most certainly from you… which is fine: we’re fucking human, just like you, although this rubber human face mask I wear isn’t to hide my lizard skin but to protect me from exotic miocrobial pathogens. 😉
Yes, we’re all tired of dumbness. I am especially tired of my own, and I could join MENSA if I liked, and won’t, because I’ve met them and they’re too dumb. In the end, all one can do is stand and deliver.
August 4, 2021 at 1:28 pm #82258madamski cafoneParticipant“Nicole Foss used to be part of this beautiful place. Trump ended that.”
Uh, Nicole ended that. Let’s keep this reality-based.
August 4, 2021 at 1:34 pm #82259Mr. HouseParticipantHaha thanks for the laugh Raul 😉
August 4, 2021 at 1:37 pm #82260madamski cafoneParticipantdeflationista:
p.s. I remember Brain Food from the old days. There was plenty of teh dumb there-then too. Including from Jay himself, but then, we were, as we are here now, dealing with topics that overwhelm our cognitive faculties. Overarching global power systems are hard to understand even for advanced simians culturally conditioned toward electronically mediated tunnel vision.
August 4, 2021 at 1:39 pm #82261choochParticipantI choose Flintstones…Thanks Dr. D
August 4, 2021 at 1:40 pm #82262oxymoronParticipantBecause I don’t know or trust, I don’t know or trust Doctors, Governments, Corporations either and am allies with anyone who will press them to leave me alone. Because they won’t, I need stiff self-defense, legally and physically. And because nobody wants a life of badgered self-defense, I want them as small, helpless, and equal to me as possible.
Hell yes to that friend.I also want allies because being alone sucks. Which is why I am here on this forum.
I want action and like CJ Hopkins wrote recently –pick a fucking side
I have said it here many times – THIS IS NOT A TEST. Just because we have had almost all of our lives be one way (comfortable and stable) doesn’t mean they stay that way. That’s what storms are – dramatic changes to the system.
Well we are in one now.
Also regarding the comments issues – WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS. Like Chris Martenson and others have mentioned (here as well) – our anger, attention, research and emotion needs to get directed up. Not sideways.
We are the majority. We are under some kind of rising tyranny from the FEW.
We are being shocked and are under pressure and it is not our fault. Let’s be kind and patient.
There will be alot going on here for people – information, thought experiments, social exchanges etc. It will wane too but right now shit is real homie.Australia is like a giant open air prison where papers need to be presented for everything. Food – tick, petrol – tick, work – tick, transport – tick. We are tracked and traced EVERYWHERE. This is the precursor to wearable digital social credits reporting systems. Masks need to be worn everywhere inside and outside. This is the 5th rolling lockdown and there are no signs of this slowing down.
I want you all to know I frikken love yas all and wish you the best it is a very unusual point in human history with a great deal of potential carnage on the horizon through many possible vectors from social upheaval through to genocidal medical experiments.
Sorry Rant Over.August 4, 2021 at 1:43 pm #82263madamski cafoneParticipantI didn’t think Raul’s remark was funny. I thought it was pointlessly exclusionary, an example of the kind of group disapproval, clique chauvinism, that is easily exploited by Big Brothers into a Daily Hate.
The guy made an honest technical mistake quite common here, and expressed the usual paranoia… in the form of a question not an accusation, and did so after making it clear he first assumed responsibility: What am I doing wrong here?
Suggestion: you won’t form meaningful political solutions using snark as glue.
I know: let’s form apparatchiks! Dueling apparatchiks! We can get team uniforms!
August 4, 2021 at 1:45 pm #82264madamski cafoneParticipant“Also regarding the comments issues – WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS. ”
Once you label a thing as something, one is less able to see how that thing, like all things, drifts away from what the label states. Team Good Guy rapidly becomes Team Pogrom.
August 4, 2021 at 2:00 pm #82265madamski cafoneParticipantdeflationista:
“We want scoring, we’ll watch the Olympics.”
Although I rather did enjoy scoring deflationista’s methods, it’s not a thing I’d care to repeat nor did anyone ask for an encore. Instead, my rating system got rated. As is only apt. 🙂
August 4, 2021 at 2:04 pm #82266oxymoronParticipantAll things are labels and words as such are but symbols for symbols and are thus twice removed from reality which lives outside such constructs. Labels are the words you used to offer pedantry to reject or diminish simple idea of unity in adverse circumstances.
The wholeness you are seeking I feel may not be reachable or able to be symbolised by words – mine or yours.
I reckon you are nit-picking and I don’t like it.Anyways – deep down I know I am nobody so I don’t care – I offer my love – take it or don’t it’s still there.
August 4, 2021 at 2:09 pm #82267deflationistaParticipantSorry Raul for clogging up the works. I tried posting that long rant August 3, midday EST. Apparently it didn’t show up until about 04:30AM August 4.
No big deal at all. I thought maybe there was a size limit. And there probably is a rule about number of links like Mister Roboto said. As soon as I removed some, it went right through.
August 4, 2021 at 2:20 pm #82268Mr. HouseParticipantSo if i’m reading the smoking jab correctly, it sounds like if you don’t get your booster every so many months you’ll essentially die. So a subscription service essentially. And seeing how the past few years have gone with people being denied services due to view points, yeah sign me up!
August 4, 2021 at 2:22 pm #82269madamski cafoneParticipantI will point out some technical issues regarding your post, deflationista:
One, there is little mention here of Trump, period. He is acknowledged as a factor but is not a rally cry for the crowd. We have our Trump fans and our Trump detractors. Discussion of Trump exceopt for analytical purposes was discarded awhile back. SO that’s one major straw man.
Two, the fact that political branding exists in the anti-vakzine/oaficial narrative is hardly surprising nor itself damning. Most people gather together and label themselves. They don the apparel that best fitrs a compromise between their detailed personal beliefs and the team which they seem to most feel fits those beliefs. Next thing you know, Great Reset is a household name. The branding isa necessarily sloppy, and so are the branded: human beings. Another straw man.
My impression is that most folks here know that Taibbi and Greenwald worked within certain limitations. I’ve felt that way about Taibbi since his early forays.
I suggest you keep your liberal-loathing to yourself. It doesn’t sell here although most folks here seem to associate more with conservatism than liberalism. Intersting how you open that paragraph with ‘I loathe liberals’ and then proceed to denigrate conservatives by association with a radicalized element and an event that happened when everyone and their mother was rioting, but those conservatives, “who don’t even pretend to care” (mindless dreck, that statement, a universal tar brush that gets as much on you as your canvas) were the ones smart enough to treat it for what it was: lawlessness in the streets, whose existence “justifies” response with same, even if those “loathsome liberals” were, in this incident, behaving peacefully although elsewhere, BLM protestors, too often didn’t: BLM attacks customers enjoying dinner in Dallas. Furious black MAGA supporter captures it: ‘This is what Cultural Marxism looks like’
Headline obviously expressing the branding associated with its perspective, ho-hum, yadi ya…
I’ve striven to stimulate an attitude of open-mindedness toward your appearance, deflationista. I like rogue wolves, being one myself.
But I don’t see you stanbding and delivering. I see you more doing that Tyler Durden thing at the end of that movie I hope never to see:
Which is not to say that you’re shooting yourself in the foot, although that is true, imo, but that you’re venting your own self-frustration because it hurts so bad and you’re tired of punching yourself as you watch your dear mother die. I don’t mind the ranting; I rather enjoy it in fact; and the basic echo chamber syndromes you point out are indeed real.
But so is yours.
August 4, 2021 at 2:35 pm #82270Mr. HouseParticipantI mean heck they’re going to deny you service if you don’t get the jab, but at least you’ll get to live and trust your own immune system.
August 4, 2021 at 2:35 pm #82271zerosumParticipant@ deflationista
August 4, 2021 at 4:24 am #82115 REPLYThe responses to your point of view should help you crystalize your opinions
My opinion or anybody else that you mentioned did not change and will not change the dynamics of the changes to our economic/social networks.
There is a river of printed money that many are saying our children and grand children will have to pay back.
Question:
1. pay back to who?
2. Make who richer.
3. Since +60% of people are living off loans and from paycheck to paycheck, where is the money coming from to pay back all that printed money? (med. industry??) ( That’s a dream)
3. Another dream, from the inheritance from the boomers.Another point, play with the numbers. Just like everyone else
Playing with the numbers
Excess mortality: deaths from all causes compared to previous yearshttps://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&pickerSort=desc&pickerMetric=new_deaths_per_million&Metric=Excess+mortality&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=AUS~C
(hint: the yearly world population has not been reduced beyond the error bar)
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Visualizing the History of Pandemics By Nicholas LePan
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@ deflationista
News
• Fauci and the NIH Knew Covid-19 “Vaccines” Could Lead to ADE (Ghion)Late last night, an anonymous source forwarded a screenshot of a report attributed to Timothy Cardozo and Ronald Veazey that is found at the bottom of NIH’s website. The report specifically warned of the distinct possibility that people who are injected with Covid-19 “vaccines” could develop the very Antibody-Dependent Enhancement that Dr. Malone keeps ringing the alarm about. Not only was this information suppressed from the public, the government-media-corporate complex went out of their way to censor—
• A Plea To Allow The Use Of Ivermectin As Covid-19 Treatment (Biz)
( A plea to whom !!!!! )
This article, written by eleven doctors and professors to the Department of Health, urges the Department to facilitate the use of Ivermectin in the public health sector. The article was delivered to President Cyril Ramaphosa’s house by Jeremy Gordon who believes that we could end the crisis of the pandemic with the use of Ivermectin as they have in Zimbabwe. – Nadya Swart
Twenty countries are using Ivermectin to treat Covid-19.
The use of Ivermectin has been restricted because the WHO says that further clinical trials are needed before they can recommend it. When asked about this, Dr Stone replied, “I find it very hard to understand how they can say that there is not sufficient evidence. There are three thousand patients plus in, I think, twenty-four trials where they demonstrate an over 75% reduction in mortality. Those figures fit exactly with what we have seen.”————
Read/Find out who will pay back the printed money
https://gen.medium.com/meet-your-new-feudal-overlords-e18709541d61
Meet Your New Feudal Overlordsby Marlon Weems.
——-August 4, 2021 at 2:35 pm #82272madamski cafoneParticipant“So if i’m reading the smoking jab correctly, it sounds like if you don’t get your booster every so many months you’ll essentially die. So a subscription service essentially. And seeing how the past few years have gone with people being denied services due to view points, yeah sign me up!”
What’s so sad is that this perspective is as supported by the broad swath of readily available evidence as not. What’s even sadder is that equally valid is the perspective that it’s as much or more caused by bureaucratic vapor-lock: that they could be killing us off in a controlled systematic manner and not even realize they’re doing it. Meanwhile, the likes of Soros giggle with glee until they begin to notice that tsunamis and hurricans and wildfires and angry mobs and foreign militaries and corp/gov alliances are also dying off in a controlled systematic manner of which they are not in control.
Who’s in control? Fate, tao, god. Something like that. Not us, not them. Me, I can barely control myself. Most of us submit personal control to work schedules, street lights, curricula, job requirements, preset social parameters, and off-the-shelf packaged entertainment distraction/relaxtion hypnosis modules. (Huxley’s prophecies came true about the time he published his propehtic book.)
We gripe that an overarching economic system, based on a few getting rich off the rest of us, would have the gall to require tracking us like the subjects we already are and readily submit to, often without questioning it or even realizing we could question it. But… we’re SUBjects, see? We’re not SUPERjects:
superject noun
su·per·ject | \ ˈsüpə(r)ˌjekt \
plural -s:
an individual or an actual entity that progressively emerges through feelings and the attainment of satisfactions // for the philosophy of organism, a subject emerges from the world a superject rather than a subject
— A. N. WhiteheadAugust 4, 2021 at 3:05 pm #82273deflationistaParticipantThis is what it looks like when you do due diligence:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1422044335076306947.html
Also, I appreciate his conclusions and feel the same way.
August 4, 2021 at 3:09 pm #82274Dr. DParticipantNew eviction moratorium, overriding the Supreme Court and all Federal law.
That’s on orders of the CDC. …So a guess the CDC is the supreme ruler, and can override the President, Supreme Court, and the people’s contract, the Constitution now? I guess so.
Nothing to see here. Have a nice day.
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