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    Salvador Dali They were there 1931   • AOC, The Little Socialist That Could (Strassel) • Green New Deal Takes Its First Congressional Baby Step (
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    #45270
    V. Arnold
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    Sorry, but different day, same shit!: or is it same day, same shit? I get confused…
    Keep on trucking Ilargi; I’ll keep up as I can…

    #45271
    V. Arnold
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    Salvador Dali They were there 1931
    I wonder, is that Edward James?

    #45272
    Dr. D
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    Ah, the ringworm quote again. Classic.

    AOC’s proposal was worse than anyone could have imagined, a grade-school wish-list written in crayon.

    So: stop all carbon in 10 years, crush every car, melt every train, ground every plane, replace every building, dismantle every nuclear reactor, run every farm, build a dozen transoceanic railroads, and dearest to myself, kill every cow. Now comes the good part: they’re going to do this in 10 years by unionizing all labor, having the government run it (by which should it matter if labor is unionized or not since they’re neither private nor capitalist?) and provide paid vacations, high wages, full medical care, and “economic security for those … unwilling to work.” Sign me up as unwilling to work!!! Very, VERY unwilling! And I want to drive on space trains and get paid anyway!!!

    So although everyone will get a full vacation, medical, dental, and wages, WHO does she think will blow up all the buildings and die under a rock drilling all the dangerous underwater railroad tunnels? We’ll all be home on the PS2 eating Cheetos and smoking weed. And HOW will this be done? What if you don’t like it? What if you don’t WANT to knock down your historic stone farmhouse built by Huguenots 100 years before America was born? We’ll simply TAKE anything we like, DO anything we like, PAY anything we like, including your slave labor at the point of a gun, forever. It’s Stalinism of the first order, “Behold, a Green (Chloros) horse!” A rider of the Apocalypse!

    They’re right. Since this can never happen, it’s AWESOME. Every Democrat signs on to take and to do everything, in full Soviet socialism, and we can finally discuss if this is what we as Americans want or not. I’m guessing no, since it’s destroyed everyone on earth everywhere it’s been tried, and has killed more people than Hitler.

    Italy should get out of their French jam by declaring the Yellow Vest leaders “the official Presidents of France” instead of Macron, since that’s how we do things now. Then they can steal France’s gold and refuse to remit their trade deficit possibly forever! Works for London, why not Rome?

    #45273
    tabarnick
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    Agree completely that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a Trump coming from what we will call the left, getting support from people who no longer expect anything from the status quo, and, as you said well, shake things up that needs shaking up. Like Trump, not everything she says makes a lot of sense but that won’t trouble her fans.

    On a lighter side, saw this, found it hilarious and can’t help sharing: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez explains stuff

    https://twitter.com/OliverMcGee/status/1092636644824428544

    #45274
    zerosum
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    This morning’s entertainment is great.

    Everyone is using the same comedy script.

    Here, look at what a 29 year old says
    • Green New Deal Takes Its First Congressional Baby Step (IC)
    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez – Guarantee a job with a family-sustaining wage

    then compare with what the leaders have said

    Fed’s Powell On The Biggest Challenge Over The Next Decade (CNBC)

    Powell stressed the importance of increasing labor force participation and improving mobility between income classes, which is an area where he said the U.S. has lagged in recent years. “That’s not our self-image as a country, nor is it where we want to be,” he said. “There are policies that we need to do that everyone should be able to agree on that will change mobility, improve people’s chances and enable people to better take part in the workforce of the future,” Powell added.

    Albert Edwards: Negative Rates, 15% Budget Deficits And Helicopter Money (ZH)
    ” ….a number of trial balloons are being floated on what the Fed might do in the next recession.”

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    Dr. D caught the other bit of entertainment better than I could.

    “Italy should get out of their French jam by declaring the Yellow Vest leaders “the official Presidents of France” instead of Macron, since that’s how we do things now. Then they can steal France’s gold and refuse to remit their trade deficit possibly forever! Works for London, why not Rome? “
    —–
    However, being on this side of the pond, and not involved with immigrant and the benefits or problems that are causing changes in the social/economic landscape, I expect to hear more about the changes that are being wrought.

    ” …. in a further dig at Macron, he said France must first address three issues: French police must stop pushing migrants back into Italy, end lengthy border checks blocking traffic and hand over around 15 Italian leftist militants who have taken refuge in France in recent decades.”

    #45275
    zerosum
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    Thanks for sharing tabarnick.
    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is connecting – SNL- already in her career.

    #45276

    Had to look it up. That clip kind of predated SNL becoming the opposite of fun. It’s 5.5 years old, season 38, 2012. Have to admit she wasn’t anywhere near my radar back then.

    And I think AOC would be delighted if people see that clip, she’s smart enough for that. Wonder if she’s also smart enough to stop pandering to that particular crowd soon which still find that kind of thing funny.

    #45277
    anticlimactic
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    the US & Socialism

    It can be sometimes quite amusing reading articles written by Americans on ‘socialism’. You can almost feel their blood vessels bursting as they write! They seem to ignore one important fact :

    ALL GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS SOCIALISM

    The DoD, CIA, NSA, FBI, etc are products of Socialism. A non-Socialist military would be volunteers and private militias sponsored by public subscription and wealthy individuals.

    A bit of cognitive dissonance allows them to ignore this, so what do they mean by ‘Socialism’. Perhaps this is best illustrated by the banking crisis. There was no issue with the banks being bailed out with 700 billion from the government, but a 13 billion dollar loan to GM was written about as being akin to the apocalypse! It was ‘SOCIALISM’!

    So what Americans seem to mean when they talk of Socialism is anything which helps ordinary people.

    I think this is based on a perversion of Christianity called the ‘Protestant Work Ethic’. The idea is that if you are doing well it is because you are favoured by God. Conversely if you are not doing well then you are not favoured by God and deserve your fate, and do not deserve any help.

    ‘ALL GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS SOCIALISM’

    For some years now I have felt that the US is moving closer to emulating Russia under Communism. For example the Deep State equates to the Politburo, the NSA is the STASI, the media is now PRAVDA, and it is [excluding Trump] a one party state.

    It may fail for the same reason – excessive military spending which the country can not afford.

    #45278
    zerosum
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    @ anticlimactic
    ‘ALL GOVERNMENT SPENDING IS SOCIALISM’
    Dam it!
    You are right.
    Could not see it. It was hidden in my face.
    Hahahaha

    #45279
    zerosum
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