Debt Rattle February 8 2024
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February 8, 2024 at 9:53 am #152132Raúl Ilargi MeijerKeymaster
Paul Klee Dancing Under the Empire of Fear 1938 • Tucker Madness is Good for America (Scott Ritter) • Elon Musk Responds To Calls For Tucker Ca
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 8 2024]February 8, 2024 at 9:57 am #152133V. ArnoldParticipantTucker Madness is Good for America (Scott Ritter) • Elon Musk Responds To Calls For Tucker Carlson’s Arrest (RT) • Tucker Carlson Threatened With Death, Sanctions for Putin Interview (Sp.) • EU May Sanction Tucker Carlson Over Putin Interview (RT) • Carlson Interview With Putin Could Topple Western Elites, End Ukraine War (Jay) • Freakout Over Tucker Carlson Signals Collapse of Western War Propaganda (Miles)
Truely; a world gone mad……..
February 8, 2024 at 10:20 am #152134oxymoronParticipantBefore everyone at TAE gets too excited by the Putin / Carlson interview I thoroughly recommend reading the alt media on the ground in Russia for a clearer perspective starting with these…
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/putin-an-alternative-perspective
https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/moscow-expands-war-against-info-terrorism
February 8, 2024 at 11:07 am #152135oxymoronParticipantHey Raul, the animal videos are so good at the end of the feed. Really make you feel better about things.
Nice one.February 8, 2024 at 12:13 pm #152137Dr. DParticipantFrom the internets:
“it struck me that if America was planning to bomb someone in the Middle East, their most advantageous course would be to bomb Israel. It would earn the undying gratitude of the Arab nations and continuing access to their massive oil and gas reserves. Many other advantages as well, like geostrategic and reputational, too many to go into.
What does Israel bring to the table? It’s like a sick baby, expensive and demanding and irritating, not to mention that the way Netanyahu ignores American wishes is humiliating to America’s prestige. Domestically of course the Jews are an important voting bloc, but at only 3% of the population they are easily swamped by the immigrant vote.”I have often wondered about that, as you should ally with the countries that have the oil, but we used Israel as the enforcer to watch over the petrodollar and our (BP) oil. Strange choice, but there you have it when Saudi was joining with the Hunt brothers to try to force the US back on a hard (silver) standard. Or were going to tank our markets like “Rollover” (1981). What we didn’t realize at the time was they weren’t enemies but it was all a show, and suddenly, one day, they had always been best friends, working with their third best friend, the U.S.
February 8, 2024 at 12:31 pm #152138The BlackParticipantMany boys learn at an early age that, for the machine to achieve its full potential, you must first remove the governor.
February 8, 2024 at 12:33 pm #152139WESParticipantIt has dawned on me that the big push by both Brussels EU and DC US politicians to pass huge bills in the tens of billions in support of a failing Ukrainian proxy war, is nothing but a last ditch blatant balls up attempt to line their own pockets and that of their supporter’s pockets (MIC) with taxpayer’s money for as many more years as possible.
So far Brussels has succeeded in adding 4 more years until 2027, and sadly DC likely will too.
None want to let their Ukrainian money laundromat go out of business anytime soon. Expect both DC and Brussels, after Ukraine falls, to set up a false Ukrainian government in excile, so they can further extend the operation of their Ukrainian money laundromat for decades to come.
Corruption Inc forever!
February 8, 2024 at 12:39 pm #152140Dr. DParticipant“when the interview does air, it will—literally and figuratively—break the internet.”
I have no idea what everyone’s on about. As Mr. Nobody says, this is the least interview interview in a while. It’s like he didn’t know he had to prepare questions? Putin cannot and will not answer anything insightful or revelation – or apparently didn’t – because of his situation. He has to be the anchor-ballast and work the plan with stability.
Journalists are supposed to do this, so it’s not new. And since nothing was said, no one is at risk. What the actual heck is going on out there about people’s reaction to it? The pre-show was all staged using the new method, so is this an after-show where the Right pretends the Left is more mad than they actually are? And the Left can’t say “No, let Tucker talk”?
From a logical perspective, none of the sturm und drang makes any sense. From anyone. It shouldn’t “Break” anything. It’s one of his weakest interviews this year.
“we are at the stage where the actual content of the interview doesn’t matter” –Ritter
Because he’s arguing we need an antidote to “Russia Russia Russia” before we reach WWIII. We’re reduced to such a cave man level that even seeing Putin is a MAN, soft spoken, average guy, can be a revelation to the amygdala highjack. Oh my God.
“these elites have called for his excommunication—his passport seized, travel bans, and even criminal prosecution. These American elites have gone insane.” — Ritter
Because they know they don’t have much leverage, and if something re-humanizes Russia and Putin they won’t be able to start WWIII and nuke us all. Again: Oh my God.
They were like “Sanction” Tucker. With what? Shut off his access to the Ukrainian wheat market? WTF does that mean?
And they worked so well last 10 times they tried it.“They fear Tucker Carlson’s interview with Vladimir Putin because, through this interview, ideas, narratives, and facts that have been ignored or suppressed by the political and media elites will be set forth in unfiltered fashion for the American public to consider free of the influence of those who seek to manipulate the population”
How does this work? They’re already saying it’s “Disinformation” … when nobody knows what is in it yet. And how can it be “Disinformation”? That’s literally impossible. One guy – who we have no secret who he is – gave his opinion. If you’re against that or think he’s lying, you won’t give it a second thought, so what’s the bother?
They actually had a better question: why not interview Biden back-to-back? He can refute all the Putin propaganda. Tucker would host him, absolutely. …Oh yeah, that’s why….
“As
PutinGeorge Bush and Tony Blair is a war criminal and the EU sanctions all who assist him in that effort, it seems logical that the External Action Service examine his case as well,” Fixed it.“it is necessary to get ready for a war with Russia and continue to help Ukraine, which means producing more tanks, shells, drones and other weapons,”
Apparently not, since we’re not creating any, nor demonstrate any plans to. So are they planning peace, or are they planning immediate escalation to nuclear war – for, as all planners have noted, we have zero “escalation dominance” between naughty words and nukes. And aren’t getting any when that’s a core obstacle, daily discussed. Why bother if your plan – those locked in the nuclear control bunker – was never to “have” or “Win” a war anyway? Your plan was to CAUSE WWIII, drop the population and pop out the other side with space-age tech while the population are cave men and rule them as human cattle forever. You have to understand “they” are not “normal” people.
If they were “normal”, we wouldn’t see the actions and decision they take daily. But generally, they are not “insane” per se, but their actions have a cohesion and narrative of its own that describes them. Bill Gates being from a kill-blacks, eugenics family, who then openly says on TV to the world, “if we take his vaccine in Africa the population will drop” is a good example. Is he a liar? Why would we not take him at his word? But we can’t because for most of us who and what he is is unthinkable. Same as if you meet an addict robbing you in the street, you don’t really know what’s going through his head, what he’s capable of, what he believes that minute. Only if you’ve rubbed shoulders with them, lived with them, seen it – hopefully in safety – can you piece it together.
The thought they always wanted a nuclear exchange and never had any other plans, and all this is just pointless theatre to get us there seems perfectly logical to me. Of course they have to PRETEND we’ll have a “normal” war, or it’s just “Aid” which is just “training” which is just “Javelin missiles” which is just “Abrams tanks” which is just “HIMAR/F16s” which is just “All NATO going in”, well at that point “We have no choice”, right??
The point – to this point – was never to “Win” at all. That’s why they’re all still so happy. It was to genocide every Slav on planet earth and their only disappointment is they’re only getting one side and Poland’s escaping.
Was it Blair who just said this on international TV at Davos? He said he was amazed and overwhelmed, tearful almost, that the U.S. could kill Russians without a man lost. …Because Ukrainian Slavs aren’t “men” and aren’t “Human”. The whole nation lost counted as no more than a fly to him, doesn’t exist at all. Ukraine, hearing this then responded with “And that sounds great to us!!” I guess? Very odd. But they are a coup, Vichy government installed by Western Nazis, so…
“HMS Queen Elizabeth, was sidelined by propeller shaft problems”
The Queen Elizabeth got the shaft and is dead. Should have seen that coming.
“before having to be towed back to port for repairs that required almost a year”
Just spitballin’ here, but I bet China could repair that ship a lot faster. I remember the Pearl Harbor ships, some nearly sunk were towed TO Puget Sound, 2,000 miles away, and repaired in 6 months.
“The Queen is, as of now, unable to fulfill her duty in Steadfast Defender, as well as any upcoming Red Sea military operations,”
Like I said about England missing that early bus. Oops, old chap, I guess you’ll have to take on Ukraine/Yemen/Iran alone. Sorry! Outcome: no London ships sunk. All London wars proceed anyway without needed their 2 girl scout troops in the field. #Winning.
England has moved from fighting wars with all men, to some men, to no men at all, and are still going. America are such drooling retards we let them.
“really a cover excuse for a forthcoming retreat by Ukrainian forces to the western side of the Oskol River,”
Same is said about Zeluzhny trying to get fired or re-assigned. He doesn’t want to be there when the front collapses and its his fault. I don’t know, but example: apparently Ze went to see him to get the 400,000 men Zaluzhny called for, which he can’t NOT have called for, since he needs that MONTHLY to survive. Since Zu had called for the men, they had it all worked out, where he’d to the Parliament, do a big PR, say “S—t just got real” big photo-op all the West, general mobilization. But like a good Nazi he said “No.” Ze was then like, “That’s it! You can’t just keep throwing me under the bus to save yourself” and fired him, because, also like the petty thug he is, Zu has been keeping ALL his men, all the Nazis, all the Azovs, safe an in style as his personal mafia while the nation falls. Calling him petty? Well thug is as thug does. No real general would do that because it doesn’t work. Thugs do that because they want a Plan B for losing. They’re for THEMSELVES, not for their country.
So by being re-assigned, Zu keeps his Nazi army intact while Ukraine collapses and Ze is thrown under the bus. …Being blamed for a general who won’t send his competent men. Sounds like General McClellan. (too soon?)
Classic chickenhawk Nazi like Dick Cheney: he’s not going to fight; he’s going to send YOU to fight. Cannon fodder is what you’re for, as Kissinger would say.
“• Iran Refutes Accusations It Supplies Weapons To Houthis – Envoy To UN (TASS)
I find that really hard to believe. Pitch me. They’re so wealthy and their ports are so open they order guns on Amazon?
“On the night of January 12, US and UK forces launched strikes using aircraft, ships and submarines”
…And hit a camel in the butt.
“against Yemeni rebel movement targets in a number of cities,”
Oh, so you hit civilians instead? That makes it all better. They were discussing the strikes, I think Aaron Mate’, and the POINT of putting troops in Syria IS to get them shot. That is: they are BAIT. Then when they shoot them, Biden can say “I’m legally authorized to protect my (illegal) troops” and do anything. He. Feels. Like. Rinse, repeat for 50 years. Uh, no: actions following an illegal act – our very existence there – are ALSO all illegal, sir. This is just circular logic, circular law: we’re there because we’re there because we’re there. Biden has the latitude to put men there because Biden can put men there. Hey, um, not a genius here, but how is that different from a King? NO THAT’S NOT LEGAL. Use your head. But “Republicans” so no impeach. We help run cover!
“• The United States Has Zero National Security (Paul Craig Roberts)
Ah yes. But we have a TRILLION in National Security THEATRE. So there! Just like all those TSA guys who never found a bomb in their lives, tested yearly and reconfirmed each time.
I’m actually not as worried about the EMP itself as much as having no manufacturing to repair it with. That’s gotten far worse and I think, over the horizon at this point as the key ingredient – talent – has now been erased. There are no machinists left, no process engineers, and no one in the younger generations are “serious” and mentally able to apply themselves at this time.
Like one-on-one, I could have a key machinist try to train just ONE apprentice and you’d be back 1-2 years just to get them to pay attention and not have baby-mama drama distracting him all day. So like: go throw her in jail for a year so this poor guy can learn how to work. I’d say that’s bad, but it’s far worse: that’s just ONE obstacle, and just one obstacle concerning TALENT. To say nothing as PCR writes, about getting him a free machine to learn on, and tools, and raw mill, with electric in a grid-down, etc.
“[..]Thanks to the fools who govern us, we have zero national security despite the massive expenditures year after year, decade after decade.”
Might want to reinforce BOTH parties do this. BOTH parties suddenly hate money when it comes to ACTUALLY preventing the collapse of the United States. The only possible conclusion is: they therefore WANT the collapse of the United States, and are actively doing everything they can think of to cause it. What else is there? Not a genius, but I THINK that is the definition of treason?
Luckily they won’t EMP as it would destroy their mental control grid. They’d be more powerless and blind than we are.
“European leaders were holding a summit and carrying out all kinds of underground negotiations to secure the detour of another 50 billion euros into Kiev’s bottomless pit,”
It’s not their money, it’s the FARMER’S money. Spend all you want!
How about this: for each % of GDP the leaders want to spend, they then have to pitch in the exact same % of their private fortunes. That’s merely to make it as repressive as Revolutionary France, back when that was what Aristocrats did. AND sign up for active duty. No risk personal fortune = no law.
“Pockets are not unlimited and the leaders of the collective West have shown where their main concerns lie.”
You can pick on the United States for this but we’re not unique. We’re just in the spotlight which lets everyone else slinks away in the dark. Canada. And they’re saying we criticize the U.S. but not the Jews and Israel? Well I certainly don’t. Not a single day out of my mouth where yes, I point out that not all Jews are bad, zionists, whatever, but also not all Americans are bad, precisely the same thing for the very same reason: the logical fallacy that you can aggregate the group, but you can’t then back-assume every individual. All wheels are round. I am round. Therefore I am a wheel. No, that’s retarded. That’s a 101 level kindergarten mistake. AND, as some have added, it lets the REAL guys hide and get away. So stop helping.
95% of all counties are against what’s happening. We’re reaching +80% by population against. I’ll attribute your great bravery to protest here, go ahead! However, you’d be shot or in jail. I imagine it would be not that different in China, although slightly less so in Taiwan. So you want us to protest to go to jail? Who does that serve? What tactics is that? Okay, the last ten times we did this, how did the U.S. act and how did we win? Be productive.
According to these guys, they’re so astonishing fragile that the least interview, with boring questions and no new information can topple their whole plan. They said last week, just IGNORING them topples their whole plan. Gosh, if that’s the case, sounds like we won.
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/40/bf/a5/40bfa585e573005851472964f8c5fa90.jpgThis is just a mop-up operation, identifying hidden traitors like the two who just sold out to their blackmail files to flip and go pro-Mayorkas.
Look, if you LIKE the border crisis as Republicans, just say so. Don’t claim you don’t, line up ready, and when the vote comes, stab everyone in the back. Those are the guys we’re trying to find right now. How else do you find them than by staging events they flip on? As Elon says (WHY do you make Elon right???) “Arrest those who are calling for Tucker’s arrest”. THAT is what we’re trying to see here. We need to know what jersey they’re wearing before we shoot them. …I mean, arrest and defenestrate them.
““..what will they say to God when he asks them why they did this?”
They will proudly say “I hate God and all his creation.” (Including myself). They will say “My God is Death.”
“Arab governments make a serious mistake by not responding to their people’s demands to come to the aid of the Palestinians.”
Maybe, but like Iraq when they ordered us to leave: Obama said they’d steal 100% of all their funds and shut them out of the Swift system. Free Choice. So Saudi, Oman, etc are better able to fight the “West” when they’ve stolen I dunno, $1Trillion dollars and used it to keep their system from collapsing? Strategies, choices. Maybe it’s better if the governments PRETEND and let the people do the fight.
“• Mr Bean Blamed for Slow Electric Car Sales (RT)
This is their weirdo, elite, Minion outlook: Everybody acts only because they are TOLD what to do. Because that’s what THEY do, that’s who THEY are. Therefore, if anyone does something you don’t like, you just find the person who ordered them not to, and order them around instead. They’re incapable of believing anyone acts, thinks, EXISTS without express orders from Mom. Ass-sucking sycophants. Mr. Bean? YGTBFKM. We didn’t need his help: YOUR PRODUCTS SUCK. If we’re not lit on fire burning alive, we’re stranded in deadly cold that will kill us in minutes. I can’t REMEMBER a product that ever sucked as badly as this one, although maybe low-flush toilets, full of s—t all day comes to mind.
“• Facing Farm Protests, EU Eases Demands In 2040 Climate Proposal (Pol.eu)
Following this with Jimmy Dore, the Euro leaders are like “We’ll negotiate.” Sorry: NO. “Negotiate” means you get something. It means you stay in power and take 15% not 50%. We’re way past that. I wouldn’t stop until every member of Parliament is a Farmer. Like in Holland. Don’t take half-measures, keep marching until everyone involved, all their families, all their corporations, everyone they met in school, all the deans, all the scientists, are in prison for felonies. That is, accessory-to-felony, which they ARE guilty of. Neil Ferguson comes to mind, to say nothing of the PM’s brother, building condos on the oceanfront farms.
Imprison all of them, and I won’t mind paying, since without them in the way we’d be so prosperous we wouldn’t notice with a triple of the prison population. We’ll triple our standard of living with them in prison.
Don’t “Negotiate”. Take it.
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“• Assange Faces Torture and Suicide in US – UN (RT)Yes, and as usual, the UN is helping. So…they get involved now and delay his court case AGAIN? I thought I read his last possible end-of-everything date was two weeks ago, but no? Still in prison, no end to wrangling? This would be different if he were home on a VPN, or even under house arrest. Every minute you talk you’re HELPING.
“There was an Ice Age when CO2 was 5,000 ppm.”
Science has no effect on their Feelz. I keep following the Science but end up at The Money.
All houses could look like that. Or sited for climate.
February 8, 2024 at 12:41 pm #152141WESParticipantThe Black:
Do you mean boys suddenly discover girls?!?!
Girls are a whole new world of governors!
February 8, 2024 at 12:49 pm #152143aspnazParticipantAmerican journalist Tucker Carlson could be banned from visiting the European Union after interviewing Russian President Vladimir Putin, Newsweek said on Wednesday, quoting one former and two current MEPs.
Newsweek is history, nobody is taking them seriously, and who are these anonymous sources that they have, sound like EU politicians, the most corrupt politicians on earth, tied with Ukraine politicians.
Sanctions against Carlson will open so many eyes that the idiots running the governments would never do it in case it pissed off their bosses.
February 8, 2024 at 12:53 pm #152144aspnazParticipantMr Bean Blamed For Slow Electric Car Sales (RT)
Mr Bean has a degree in electronic and electrical engineering, plus a masters in control engineering. He is a very intelligent man and, with tons of cash, both electric and ICE cars, he argues a very good case. Shame when the nut jobs get their government science thrown back in their faces.
February 8, 2024 at 1:03 pm #152145zerosumParticipant…. and He’s not even a Journalist …. ( so says the snobs)
I’m going to wait at his web page
https://tuckercarlson.com/
————February 8, 2024 at 1:58 pm #152146RedParticipant“In his newly published book, Nuclear High-Attitude Electromagnetic Pulse, Steven Starr shows that all it takes is one nuclear explosion to shut down the United States and throw the population back into the Dark Ages.”
Quick to pick this one up is PCR. Fear mongering with all their might. Again all I see is “fund me!” More cold fusion bullshit.
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/world-wont-end-danger-emp-attack-more-fantasy-fact-94681
February 8, 2024 at 2:15 pm #152147phoenixvoiceParticipant“Carlson wants to give a platform to someone accused of crimes of genocide – this is wrong,” Estonian MEP Urmas Paet told the outlet
Wait a minute: accused, not convicted. And…Netanyahu stands equally accused. Should those who share Netanyahu’s words also be sanctioned?
February 8, 2024 at 2:26 pm #152148zerosumParticipantTAE readers are clued in to the truth.
(They, the snobs, fear that their whole scam will collapse)
USA is a government which wishes to achieve two clear objectives:
First, pouring billions into the pockets of defense contractors;
and secondly whipping up fear of an imminent war with an enemy, with the sold objective of distracting the public away from a failing economy and abysmal foreign policy.This is why Tucker Carlson’s trip to Moscow where he intends to interview Putin is so important and such a threat to the Biden administration and western elites as a whole.
When Carlson interviews the Russian leader and it becomes clear that western media have been lying for so long about the Ukraine war and even this latest ruse of Russia wanting to invade eastern Europe, then the whole scam will collapse.Carlson Interview With Putin Could Topple Western Elites, End Ukraine War
Carlson Interview With Putin Could Topple Western Elites, End Ukraine War
Martin Jay
February 7, 2024
Tucker Carleson is about to bring the truth to the American people. But are they ready for it?
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Live without electricity
Following a nuclear EMP, the people of the US would suddenly find themselves living in the conditions of the Middle Ages for a period possibly as long as a year – most Americans would not be able to survive such circumstances.
The expansion of the digital revolution into money will mean that you can be denied access to your money for any reason including the exercise of free speech.
All accumulated knowledge in digital form can be erased by one EMP.
Try to imagine the consequences of such a loss.
These are new risks never before experienced on Earth.
The United States Has Zero National Security
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The government’s efforts to phase out fossil fuel vehicles by 2035.
Most Americans would not be able to survive such circumstances.
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The Net Zero agenda to deliberately deindustrialize (and thereby impoverish) the West, while China and other countries unashamedly continue to capitalize on the huge economic prosperity afforded by the use of fossil fuels.None of this has anything to do with saving the planet, and everything to do with demolishing our standard of living, demolishing our economic prosperity and transforming the former middle class into a neo-feudal peasant class.
————February 8, 2024 at 2:33 pm #152149OroborosParticipantPaul Klee Dancing Under the Empire of Fear
Yah, that’s about right…….
February 8, 2024 at 2:34 pm #152150OroborosParticipantFebruary 8, 2024 at 2:44 pm #152151OroborosParticipantHamas and the IDF
It doesn’t look fatal but it is
Porcupine quills become lethally infected
February 8, 2024 at 2:52 pm #152152OroborosParticipantUkronaziland
The most corrupt country in EurotardistanAnd that saying a lot.
Organs Trafficking
As lucrative as child trafficking
Tanks for Kidneys Documentary: Organ Trafficking in Ukraine
It’s worst than your tiny little imagination can conceive of.
February 8, 2024 at 3:02 pm #152153D Benton SmithParticipantFolks are starting to wake up to the importance of the Carlson Putin Interview.
Well, you ain’t seen nothing yet. That “Truth Fest” interview is only the start. Call it the firing cap of a very large bullet in a very big gun.
By now you have probably already figured out that “they” (villainous label of your choice) control us by means of lying. They commit all sorts of heinous crimes as standard operating procedure including the most enormous and blatantly evil thefts and murders (that’s how they roll), but even those attention grabbing grand scale atrocities are, in the end, still controlled always and only by LIES.
There are many extremely important truths about life altering events of world changing magnitude THAT YOU DON”T EVEN KNOW EXIST, because all of the information about their existence and importance have been CENSORED out of the stream of information that you are allowed to hear. That censorship itself was accomplished by means of very purposefully and cleverly LYING.
It was very effective. It worked so well that you do not know enough to even know there is anything to know about, so you don’t look, and so you are consequently as unaware of your actual environment as a hypnotized chicken. Seriously, you actually ARE, and the awakening is going to be almost paralysis inducing shock. You will go through a terrible phase of not trusting ANYTHING, including perhaps even your own senses. Thankfully, that condition is self-correcting and brief.
The depth, breadth, and seriousness of the lies, and thus the TRUTHS that are below them, are going to pose a potentially lethal challenge to the daily lives of the vast vast majority of humankind.
The Carlson Putin interview is just the spark that ignites the charge, and that stack of explosives has been piling up for a LONG time.
February 8, 2024 at 3:13 pm #152154D Benton SmithParticipant@DrD
I have no idea what everyone’s on about. As Mr. Nobody says, this is the least interview interview in a while.”
Swing and a miss, Doc. Strike 1.
February 8, 2024 at 3:16 pm #152155OroborosParticipantUnlike the F-35 Lardbucket, the Russian SU-34 is all blue skies.
The Russians have adapted their stockpiles of older ‘dumb’ aerial bombs (250,500,1500lbs) to have steerable wings and cameras to become extremely accurate munitions that can be safely dropped far away and out of range enemy AD but still hit the target on the nose.
The SU-34 is the product of a very large deep Industrial Base
Something the Empire of Lies Gangster Nation Military Mafia lost DECADES ago, never to return.
Duh’merica can’t make it’s own jeans, cell phones or steel in quantity. It’s a sitting duck.
Quack, quack
Here is what a real industrial base can produce, In Industrial Scale
February 8, 2024 at 3:24 pm #152156OroborosParticipantRussian LMUR missile
Much larger than a drone
OMG, It actually works as designed, reliably and efficiently at industrial scale cost.
Russia racking up millions of engineering man=hours of combat experience, what works, what doesn’t
The Russians initially get stuff wrong but go on to correct it, unlike the Empire of Lies Military Mafia which gets it wrong and stays wrong…
And It’s Gone……..
February 8, 2024 at 3:34 pm #152157jb-hbParticipantMaybe the main point of the Tucker/Putin interview IS that it be milquetoast, but by the very existence of ANY journalism, by talking of ANY kind, especially a nothingburger, the point IS the total on display mental meltdown, the strident demands for full-on nazi behavior.
All the people in charge of the media apparatus have to do is stay cool, not fall into the trap. But they apparently cannot help themselves. Or perhaps there’s no way to get that radical 1% $150,000+/yr quisling demographic to understand no dudes, it was purely a technical tool all along.
Probably too many – even IF they initially accepted it as just a way to go along to get along, get a boost in climbing the ladder – have internalized the messaging. Started out as cynical smart guy Machiavellians, ended up drinking the coolaid. Your power base will display serious cognitive issues if you try to NOT respond in the usual hysterical fascist way. Then there’s the stupid ones who, like with any bureaucracy, would say “this is what we do because this is what we do” which is SO much more powerful than anyone who hasn’t worked in a bureaucracy can imagine.
If the interview is never released, it has done its job.
February 8, 2024 at 3:46 pm #152158D Benton SmithParticipantThings are likely to get violent soon, and for a while. Before that kicks off in full force I think we should remind ourselves that no one should take any pleasure in extinguishing the life of an adversary no matter how wicked, nor should they grieve about doing it either. In fact, killing one’s foes should be avoided at all times that do not actually require that violence as the only remaining means of preventing wickedness from prevailing. And courageously doing what must be done to preserve life and goodness is honorable and nothing to grieve over.
February 8, 2024 at 4:04 pm #152159OroborosParticipantThe Empire of Lies is Evil to it’s core
It’d Sheeple do nothing even though they sense the rot in their bones
The Military Mafia thinks it doesn’t need an industrial base because it has Nuclear Weopons and two oceans
That’s wrong, dead wrong this time.
The industrial base wins this time like always
Police states always lose in the long run
Run for your life…
February 8, 2024 at 4:07 pm #152160OroborosParticipantNeoConJob Nikki Haley campaigning
Like anyone will notice…
February 8, 2024 at 4:18 pm #152161John DayParticipant@thumbnailgreenoxymoroninoz: Thanks for the Slavsquat perspective pieces on the Russian political machine, which are indeed both worth full consideration.
Russian censorship: https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/moscow-expands-war-against-info-terrorism Americans live freer than Russians, still.
Putin-as-technocrat-constrained-by-corrupt-oligarchic-factions: https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/putin-an-alternative-perspective
Putin is not a savior, nor a demon, but perhaps the world’s most accomplished bureaucrat.February 8, 2024 at 4:19 pm #152162D Benton SmithParticipantRussia’s message to the West is that the Russian Federation absolutely does have both the capacity and the will to make the West stop harming Russia, so stop it or experience the inevitable consequences of your criminal actions. You (America and the entire Cabal) are encouraged to simply stop. You can see what will happen if you don’t, and if you pretend that you don’t see it then I am telling you aloud so that you and everyone else in the world can see and hear it too.
February 8, 2024 at 4:23 pm #152163morongobillParticipantBev Doolittle’s monstrosity is the name some locals have for the concrete house in Joshua Tree.
Down the hill is the Lou Harrison House, an adobe, which I would prefer to live in.
February 8, 2024 at 4:28 pm #152164John DayParticipant@DBS: Careful to avoid overstating your case, Amigo. The control-narrative is being degraded, but…
“Seriously, you actually ARE, and the awakening is going to be almost paralysis inducing shock. You will go through a terrible phase of not trusting ANYTHING, including perhaps even your own senses. Thankfully, that condition is self-correcting and brief.
The depth, breadth, and seriousness of the lies, and thus the TRUTHS that are below them, are going to pose a potentially lethal challenge to the daily lives of the vast vast majority of humankind.
The Carlson Putin interview is just the spark that ignites the charge, and that stack of explosives has been piling up for a LONG time.”Maybe patching-on some more doublethink will duct-tape this shite together for longer than makes any sense at all, and then we’ll get Houthis causing GFC-II by cutting the internets in the Red Sea.
Don’t misunderestimate these opponents.
;-(February 8, 2024 at 4:30 pm #152165D Benton SmithParticipantTelling the TRUTH, The whole truth and nothing but the truth about America (or Russia or China, or anyone else, for that matter) does not weaken or threaten the best interests of America (or the others). Removing a cancerous lie does not weaken the organism. It strengthens it. What weakens the host is to allow the lie to remain hidden and continue causing harm.
Those who tell you otherwise are liars. They’re lying because the truth is that they have committed crimes which weakened both their victims and the nation as a whole.
It has been said by some (psychopathic criminal liars), and completely without supporting evidence of any kind whatsoever, that (and I quote) “You can’t handle the truth!”
Wrong! Watch me.
February 8, 2024 at 4:31 pm #152166John DayParticipantThanks Morongobill for pointing out the sterility and lack of organic warmth in that concrete, steel and glass structure. It feels haunted by a hungry ghost to me.
February 8, 2024 at 4:36 pm #152167John DayParticipant@Phoenixvoice: Yeah, I had exactly the same reaction to the Idiot Verhofstadt opening his pie-trap.
Don’t interview accused Putin = don’t interview accused Netanyahu.February 8, 2024 at 4:39 pm #152168John DayParticipantAspnaz observed:
Mr Bean Blamed For Slow Electric Car Sales (RT)“Mr Bean has a degree in electronic and electrical engineering, plus a masters in control engineering. He is a very intelligent man and, with tons of cash, both electric and ICE cars, he argues a very good case. Shame when the nut jobs get their government science thrown back in their faces.”
February 8, 2024 at 4:41 pm #152169John DayParticipant@Oroboros: “Tanks for Kidneys” , or “kidneys for tanks”, and what about all of the live children?
;-(February 8, 2024 at 4:44 pm #152170John DayParticipantDr. D observed:
“We’re reduced to such a cave man level that even seeing Putin is a MAN, soft spoken, average guy, can be a revelation to the amygdala highjack. Oh my God.”And this seems about right, too, but it could be a poleshiftnicronovaflood thing, just as well:
“So are they planning peace, or are they planning immediate escalation to nuclear war – for, as all planners have noted, we have zero “escalation dominance” between naughty words and nukes. And aren’t getting any when that’s a core obstacle, daily discussed. Why bother if your plan – those locked in the nuclear control bunker – was never to “have” or “Win” a war anyway? Your plan was to CAUSE WWIII, drop the population and pop out the other side with space-age tech while the population are cave men and rule them as human cattle forever. You have to understand “they” are not “normal” people.”February 8, 2024 at 4:49 pm #152171D Benton SmithParticipant@JohnDay
@DBS: Careful to avoid overstating your case, Amigo. The control-narrative is being degraded, but…”
Okay, I will tentatively agree not to overstate my case too much more than I have already, which is not to say that I take any of it back, or that I won’t try to inch it forward just an itsy little bit at a time.
I am aware that there is a strong and mysterious capacity in mankind to duct-tape, wheedle and cope its way forward through seemingly impossible to survive disasters. But this time they’re really pushing the envelope.
I’m hardly alone in seeing it coming, or in seeing some of the underlying truths that are soon to be exposed like trash on the curbside
I am prepared to bolt and flee back to my earlier state of blindness at the slightest indication that my prognosis is incorrect or needs drastic reassessments. But so far (and I’m inspecting very very closely) I just don’t see that happening.
Your cautionary advice is well received, and I promise to be careful, BUT part of the price of truth telling is truth seeing …..and vice versa.
February 8, 2024 at 4:54 pm #152172John DayParticipant@RED: Nuclear EMP might be that bad, or might be half that bad, and the hundred-miles-over-Ohio detonation just gets the eastern grid, but it is still a thing that makes Americans death-hostages to underdog-North-Korea, which is bad for us death-hostages. Another EMP for the Texas grid and one for the California grid would really wrap the package up.
Would 75%, 85% or 95% of “us” die? Beats me…February 8, 2024 at 4:56 pm #152173John DayParticipant@European Commission: Please don’t throw Tucker in the Briar Patch!
Please, please don’t throw Tucker in the Briar Patch!
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