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    René Magritte L’éternité 1935   • The Pentagon’s Response To The DEMD Data Is An Even Bigger Story (Blaze) • Pfizer Quietly Adds Language Warning
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 9 2022]

    #100473
    vasra
    Participant

    RE: Ottawa Police force being exempt from vaccine mandates

    It appears that the Ottawa Police officers have been mandated to be fully vaccinated by Jan 31, 2022.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-vaccine-mandate-1.6338569

    #100474

    India’s ambassador (above): “protect the oppressed even if he is my enemy but never forgive a traitor even if he is my friend” #TrudeauResign

    #100475
    V. Arnold
    Participant
    #100476
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “”Ditch The Misinformers” – Neil Young”

    We are. You and Sanjay Gupta and Walensky. CNN, MSNBC, BBC and CBC. Besides, wtf do you know about medicine? I don’t get my medical advice from 80 year old guitar players. I mean duh.

    “Biden DHS Declares Heightened Terrorism Threat Due to “Mis-, Dis-, & Mal-Information”

    Man, I can’t even predict a day ahead anymore. Here, I said they define terrorism as = “Everything”, and here we are. All information. All things but their things.

    Cluephone, it’s for you: “Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of intentional violence to achieve political aims. The term is used in this regard primarily to refer to violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel ).” –Wikipedia.

    That’s actually a good, unbiased definition. I didn’t think they were capable of it. What does that mean? Parking your truck and having a party is not terrorism. Being wrong about something isn’t terrorism. For the love of all things holy.

    Even foreign actors attacking invading military personnel, OBVIOUSLY also not terrorism. They are soldiers, and that is a theatre of war. Threatening to erase your pension and throw the entire nation into poverty using financial extortion? As long as you communicate that fear, is terrorism. Attack causing deaths on civilians, preceded by the FEAR. Key element. Fabricating or exaggerating a virus hardly more deadly than H1N1 or HongKong, in order to create fear that you then use to achieve military and political ends? Absolutely, clearly, indisputably terrorism. …But would leave the problem whether state actors would exclude it from terror and just be straight “Democide”. That is, totalitarian mass murder, in our case yet again by Socialists. But it would be a felony, war-crime etc either way.

    Speaking of terrorism and totalitarian control: “The U.S. is considering a radical rethinking of the dollar for today’s digital world. The U.S. is gingerly considering whether to adopt a digital version of its currency” – npr.org

    So, tippy toppest Derp State insiders telegram for you: The dollar is dying, we are causing inflation, killing it and killing you to install a Fed dollar with the same criminal thieves in charge. I somehow feel people are not in the mood, not going to trust them very much. Remember all the Fed Chairs insider-trading multi-millions? Yeah.

    But Great! Timing: we are now far enough along they are admitting it and rolling it out to the public. That is to say: practically past tense. They only tell you when it’s already over and too late. Buckle up buckaroos!

    “Trump broke federal law. There’s nothing that can be done about it.” –MSNBC

    Because Biden is President? Wouldn’t that mean he CAN, Should, and has an impeachable DUTY to prosecute? What the heck, exactly? Who’s running things around here?

    MSNBC Category: “Zero Tolerance.” Yeah, you knew they had one of those. Maybe all of them, who knows? “If we want failed coup masterminds to talk, here’s something that beats immunity” –MSNBC

    Double immunity? So Biden is letting them all go? Giving them all immunity? Who’s running things around here?

    Peter Sloly: More importantly, they are enforcing illegal orders. Like parking and walking around. Can police just steal your gas if you have some? Is that how it works now? If they have some gas left in police cars can I steal it with a hose, or is this stealing thing just for them? And without gas, how do you think the trucks are going to move and drive away?

    “discredit … without having to engage with the Covid sceptic evidence or arguments.”

    Dang, that sounds familiar. But Rogan is more popular than CNN and the CDC combined, doesn’t that mean whatever he says is Science? And right? I thought those were the rules. Maybe the only rule is “don’t look at evidence”, “Do what you’re told.” All I want to know is, WHICH person who orders me around should I obey?

    So since we obey anyone who printed a song in the 60s I obey this one: “You can’t please everyone / So, you’ll have to please yourself.”

    “they also have a right to accurate information”

    Which I appreciate the (inaccurate) appearance of the government not controlling free speech, he Failed Constitution class: That would be a positive Right. For you to have the “Right to Accuracy”, that would infringe on the Right of people creating informations and make them your servant or slave. No-no. Like Health Care, that is a totally fake, impossible, illogical right. I mean aside from them having been dead wrong for 2 years and killing everyone, so: inaccurate information central? The responsible thing to do here is to close the Surgeon General’s Office in embarrassment and ignominy? You could use their budget to buy a nurse, much more effective.

    “ Johnson & Johnson Stops Covid-19 Vaccine Production (RT)”

    Well, they already made 2 Billion doses for the U.S. since they’re bad at math, so I guess that have enough for now? Of course none of that works since it’s outdated and for the wrong virus, but… #Winning. PMCs say you have to TAKE the vaccine, not that the vaccine has to DO anything. The goal of the vaccine is the vaccine. Clearly. Since the case numbers have risen since the day it started.

    Extras: “Nancy Pelosi Spent $500K on Private Jets while Preaching about Climate Change”

    And Obama now owns what? His fourth house at sea level?

    Safe and effective. The Science is settled. Now “do what you’re told” and “eat the bugs.”

    #100479
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Canadian Trucker Sound Track

    Van Morrison – Western Man

    Western Man has no plan
    Cause he became complacent
    Stopped believing in himself
    Let others steal his rewards
    While he was dreaming

    While he was dreaming
    Others were scheming
    Doing deals behind his back
    Now Western Man is adrift, and under attack
    What happened in between?

    Now there’s no other bite of the cherry
    Unless he’s prepared to fight
    Start on a new path to freedom
    New path to freedom

    The horse has bolted from the stables
    Lunatics have taken over the farm
    Caretakers have taken over the main house
    Plan to start meetings in the forest
    Going back to the way it was
    Now just seems near impossible
    Western Man has no plan
    They stole it while, while he was dreaming

    Now there’s no other bite, bite of the cherry
    Unless he’s prepared to fight
    Start on a new path to freedom
    Horse has bolted from the stables
    Lunatics have taken over the farm
    Caretakers have taken over the main building
    The governors have gone over the wall
    Plan to start meetings in the forest
    Not going back, not going back to the way it was

    Western Man has no plan
    Since he became complacent
    Stopped believing in himself
    And let others steal his rewards
    While he was dreaming

    While he was dreaming
    While he was dreaming
    While he was dreaming
    While he was dreaming
    While he was dreaming
    While he was dreaming
    Others were scheming
    Scheming while he was dreaming
    Others were scheming
    While he was dreaming
    Others were scheming
    While he was dreaming

    #100480
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #100481
    those darned kids
    Participant

    part 2. listen to the school board member at the end (if you can understand her through the ridiculous mask):

    #100482
    those darned kids
    Participant

    when you try to download the dmed data, you can only get a curated set, basically unworkable (well, that’s what my wife told me – she’s the scientist).

    here’s what jessica rose says: https://jessicar.substack.com/p/spontaneous-abortion-urf-in-department

    #100483
    oxymoron
    Participant

    TDK – what a bitch. See that shit drives me crazy, a man bares his soul publicly about deeply personal feelings and impacts and is met with ‘meh, fine I’m not listening to anything but do what we are all told’.
    That sort of behaviour will start little fires in hearts and lead to effects downstream. Parents may end up starting their own schools, or bringing the current ones down.
    My son (12) first year in high school is desperate for an exemption re masks but we can’t get him one as yet. It is bothering me so much this sheep behaviour.
    The power is in the people and my people don’t want it.

    My people need love to conquer their unfounded fears but I just want to take my clothes off and poo in the centre of town.
    I am thinking very seriously of a march of the vaccine-free through the centre of town so they can stare at us. Maybe one day we’ll be thanked but I doubt it very much,

    #100484

    #100485
    those darned kids
    Participant

    that’s been my elevator plea, raúl. the reply i usually get is; “but it’s safe and effective” or “it’s been fully approved” or “really? i’ve been fine” or “[condescending tone] where did you hear that?”

    unfortunately, i believe it will take more (prominent) vaccine injured celebrities that actually speak out before widespread recognition of just what has happened.

    #100486
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Luc Montagnier died today

    #100487
    those darned kids
    Participant
    #100488
    boilingfrog
    Participant

    Here’s an interesting article, curious for Doc’s R and D to take a look…certainly not what I’ve read previously about this drug.

    https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2022/02/07/1078012530/why-remdesivir-a-highly-effective-treatment-is-a-last-resort-for-providers

    #100489
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Or maybe not #Luc Montagnier

    #100490
    The Black
    Participant

    The only legit move left for Trudeau is a Rogan Show interview

    #100491
    those darned kids
    Participant

    NEWSFLASH!!! Due to the budgetary effects that declining viewership has had on ad revenues, CNN’s “Anderson Cooper 360” will now be known as “Anderson Cooper 219”.

    #100492
    Germ
    Participant
    #100493
    deflationista
    Participant

    This short clip might be the greatest description of everything that goes on here at TAE:

    #100494
    those darned kids
    Participant

    like i’m going to take advice from someone who paints their walls mauve..

    haven’t you realized that captain bligh only wants the breadfruit plants in order to feed slaves? do you really want to be part of that?

    #100495
    Germ
    Participant

    It’s fucking nuts that half the world took 1-4 shots of drugs with no long term studies, without a full list of ingredients, no liability, made by convicted felons, when there has never been a successful vaxx for a coronavirus, for a disease with a 99.9% survival rate.

    Safe and Effective ™

    LOL.

    And the vaccinators don’t even bother aspirating the syringe before giving the IM injection – what a hoot!

    #100496
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Oh come on, deflationista, you know you love us! XOXO 😉

    #100497
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    This probably already made the rounds but just in case it hasn’t: this liberal mp is breaking rank with Trudeau but condemns the trucker protest. I totally share his perspective, although I would not vote for him because of what the Liberal Party stands for (neoliberal dismantling of our social infrastructure to further corporate interests).
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-mp-politicization-pandemic-1.6343730

    I have been involved in activism related to political, economic and environmental issues in Canada, mostly locally focussed. I have an overall political philosophy that is mostly left-leaning. I know many of the actors here: seen some at community meetings (Randy Hillier who, as an aside, was a speaker at the trucker protest). I have seen Poilievre’s lack of respect for environmental concerns in my local environmental advocacy work. I have heard Ezra Levant’s political perspective over time and have found it not in keeping with mine. Been to talks by Denis Rancourt who pops up from time to time in Mercola’s notes – I find Rancourt’s perspective incompatible with mine also.
    My point? I don’t do single-issue politics. I’m not vaxed, but even if any of these folks were to take a stand with mine on the vax issue, I would not support them because I do not agree with their overall political philosophy. To do otherwise is dangerous and potentially leads one to dance with a devil. Giving in on one issue is a very old political trick to bring people into a fold. Don’t be fooled.

    Here’s a challenge question: I will virtue signal here and say that I have on numerous occasions protested against non-democratic global institutions (IMF, World Bank) that have in no small way enabled corporate control of governments which has absolutely had a massive role in this hyper focus on money-making vaccination of the world. Were any others here involved in these protests?

    #100498
    absolute galore
    Participant

    “This short clip might be the greatest description of everything that goes on here at TAE:”

    This from a commenter whose only contributions consists of links to tweets on twitter that they somehow found compelling. I guess we could call that Twit Research.

    The most recent tweet’s message, summed up in one sentence: Only trust CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, CDC. All the rest is false narrative.

    Cute, but no thanks.

    #100499
    Germ
    Participant

    “Pfizer still holds the record for receiving the largest criminal fine in history.”

    https://marketrealist.com/p/who-paid-largest-criminal-fine-in-history/

    What could possibly go wrong!?

    #100500
    deflationista
    Participant

    Considering I just made the same point last week, I wonder how long it will take you dummies to start saying that I am James Surowiecki?

    Here is the whole thread:

    This story is a great example of how easily misinformation spreads don’t actually care what’s true or not. Organizers of the truck convoy make up a number – claiming that close to 50,000 trucks are headed to Ontario. That number was self-evidently absurd – a convoy with that many trucks (or even half as many) would have been literally hundreds of miles long. No clips of the truckers heading cross-country showed convoys of anything close to that length.No matter. The # makes the rounds on social media. Former NHL player Theo Fleury repeats it on Fox. Rogan cites it. And it becomes conventional wisdom on the right that tens of thousands of trucks have gone to Ottawa – even though there’s literally no evidence of it. And when called on the fact that he used the 50,000 number, Theo Fleury makes a comment that says it all, “Ever heard of a little thing called marketing? It worked.” Why does the number of trucks matter? Because the trucker convoy is being portrayed as a massive, widespread popular uprising. If instead we’re talking about a relatively small, niche movement, it’s a different conversation.

    #100501
    deflationista
    Participant

    This from a commenter whose only contributions consists of links to tweets on twitter that they somehow found compelling. I guess we could call that Twit Research.

    The most recent tweet’s message, summed up in one sentence: Only trust CNN, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo, CDC. All the rest is false narrative.

    Cute, but no thanks.

    Oh dear. absolute gabore looked into the reflecting pool and didn’t like what they saw.

    #100502
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    I had a realization last night as I was falling asleep.

    Fair warning — it involves an idea from economic philosopher Karl Marx. I know there are some here who have been trained to believe that Karl Marx = socialism = The Communist Party (a la Russia and China) = Stalin and Mao and their tactics = tyranny. However, socialism predated Karl Marx, and Marx was a philosopher in the 1800s who was trying to figure out why capitalism hadn’t delivered the “liberte, fraternite, egalite “ that was the call-phrase of the French Revolution. Yes, in the 20th century some very evil folks did a lot of evil in the name of Karl Marx (ahem, Stalin, Mao, etc.). And during the Crusades and Inquisition innocent people were murdered in the name of Jesus Christ. Neither man had any control over what was done in his name after his death.

    So please hear me out before the knee-jerk reaction kicks in to denigrate anything related to Karl Marx.

    Marx said that to avoid the problem in capitalism where the employer holds considerable power over the employee, creating a system whereby the employee may be (and often is) oppressed, that the workers should “own the means of production.”

    Truckers, by and large, own their rigs. Without the acquiescence of the truckers, the goods don’t get moved — because there are not enough “big rigs” in Canada to perform the task if the truckers refuse. The truckers “own the means of production” — INDIVIDUALLY, not collectively. They are sovereign individuals who can choose to act as a group. And when they voluntarily act collectively, they have the power to bring the system to its knees.

    As I read TAE this morning I encounter yet another group that tends to “own the means of production”: tow truck owners. They are being asked to tow the rigs of the protesting truckers. Asked — because they cannot be commanded, as they also own their own tow trucks. And, according to the article, most of the tow truck owners are declining to tow the protester’s vehicles.

    Wow. Marx was correct. Give each worker — individually — ownership and full control of the tools required to do the labor that they input into the economy and then the tyrants cannot effectively exert their coercion.

    The way to protect against tyrants is to empower individuals. Yes, that means 2nd amendment and guns. But it means so much more than that. It means that employees are always under the threat of becoming little more than “wage-slaves” as we have seen over the past year with vaccine mandates centering around place of employment.

    #100503
    absolute galore
    Participant

    sumac.carol — so you think you would only join a protest in which all the other participants shared all of your other ideological positions? That seems..extreme. If not virtually impossible.

    sumac.carol wrote: THere’s a challenge question: I will virtue signal here and say that I have on numerous occasions protested against non-democratic global institutions (IMF, World Bank) that have in no small way enabled corporate control of governments which has absolutely had a massive role in this hyper focus on money-making vaccination of the world. Were any others here involved in these protests?

    I guess it was 8 or 9 years ago now that I took a bus down to Washington, DC and got arrested protesting the XL Pipeline. I was a fan of Bill McKibben and Heinberg and that crowd, and I thought it was the right thing to do at that time. But I was already digging deeper into the energy issues, and not long after I came back, my position started to change. I realized that their “solutions” were completely untenable, and that their actions were unavoidably hypocritical.

    Since that time, the co-opting of “Climate Change” has been completed by the techo-industrial complex to serve its purposes. Electric cars for all? Please. Check out today’s link above regarding Lithium. Then look into how it is mined. Then look into Cobalt and Nickel, and the fact that it still takes as much energy and raw material to make the car, etc. etc. etc. Same for Chinese solar panels, carbon taxes, the idea of net zero carbon–all a complete and colossal sham to keep corporate profits rolling a bit longer as fossil fuels become less plentiful and more expensive to extract.

    Right now the clear and present danger is censorship, passports for conducting our daily lives, and mandated drugs. You can argue that we long ago gave up our freedoms, in the sense that 99% of us are completely reliant for physical survival on the very system trying to impose this final round on us. Maybe. It’s complicated.

    The people pulling out their hair (and those pretending to) over Climate Change have zero interest in the only kinds of solutions that have (now probably had) a chance to work, namely heading toward subsistence and a much “lower” standard of living, a la E.F. Schumacher and Small is Beautiful. and similar approaches. None of that, oh no. Please pass the electric car and the plane trips to my eco vacations and my Amazon Prime membership. The only thing that will stop the Technosphere is a lack of enough energy to keep its grip.

    #100504
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    Couple of docs on the speaking tour in the news today:

    2 B.C. doctors went on a COVID-19 speaking tour. Colleagues say their misinformation put public at risk
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-doctors-covid-misinformation-1.6334580

    F.S.

    #100506
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    boilingfrog: why-remdesivir-a-highly-effective-treatment-is-a-last-resort-for-providers

    That study, done before the Delta variant was prominent, was recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM). Some quotes, either from the study report, or from a NEJM article about the study:

    “Funded by Gilead Sciences [maker of Remdesivir]”

    “This trial was also conducted [from September 18, 2020, through April 8, 2021] before the emergence of the B.1.617.2 (delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2 as the dominant circulating strain.”

    “the trial was stopped for administrative reasons [?], and less than half of the planned enrollment was achieved.”

    “Notably, no deaths had occurred in either group by day 28. However, the change in viral load, determined with the use of nasopharyngeal swabs, from baseline to day 7 in the remdesivir group was similar to that in the placebo group.”

    “SARS-CoV-2 viral burden (as determined by means of quantitative polymerase-chain-reaction assay of specimens from both the upper and lower respiratory tracts) did not differ between patients in the remdesivir group and those in the control group.7 So the question arises of whether remdesivir would in fact reduce transmissibility in infected persons (an important consideration in outpatient therapeutics) as compared with monoclonal antibodies or new oral antiviral agents, which are both associated with a more rapid decline in viral burden than placebo.”

    “Finally, the primary challenge for implementing outpatient remdesivir treatment is the pragmatic difficulty of administrating a 3-day course of an intravenous agent. Access to and uptake of single-dose monoclonal antibodies have been challenging, a fact that does not bode well for a 3-day course of outpatient intravenous remdesivir.9 Although remdesivir administration requires less monitoring than monoclonal antibody administration, the majority of patients in this trial received remdesivir outside of their home or nursing facility, necessitating multiple health care interactions during the time the patients were acutely infected. Agents that could be administrated orally would be vastly easier to implement in the outpatient setting.

    The findings of this trial reinforce the need for timely access to outpatient therapeutics… Rapid emergence of variants with adaptive mutations in the spike protein can result in escape from vaccines and monoclonal antibodies, whereas antiviral agents, given the absence of variation in their viral target, are likely to maintain activity, reinforcing the value of antivirals such as remdesivir in curtailing the pandemic.10 If Covid-19 is here to stay, our focus on prevention through vaccines remains a priority, but therapeutic options to keep vulnerable patients out of the hospital are an important tool in the armamentarium.”

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2116846
    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe2118579

    #100507
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Information from NIH.GOV about the toxicity of Remdesivir:

    “Drug vehicle is SBECD, which has been associated with renal and liver toxicity. SBECD accumulation may occur in patients with moderate or severe renal impairment.”
    https://www.covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/tables/antiviral-characteristics/

    I wonder if it’s just coincidence that “in the trial population…chronic liver disease, chronic kidney disease.. were underrepresented” in Gilead’s study.

    #100508
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    John Helmer on the talks the other day in Moscow between President Vladimir Putin and President Emmanuel Macron:
    COUNTDOWN FOR THE END OF ANGLO-AMERICAN RULE IN EUROPE

    COUNTDOWN FOR THE END OF ANGLO-AMERICAN RULE IN EUROPE

    … fwiw,

    F.S.

    #100509
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    “Coronavirus drug remdesivir to cost $3,120 per patient with private insurance, irking critics” (abc news)

    #100510
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Musk: << “Maybe part of why traditional media outlets are so negative is because old habits die hard? They so rarely even try to be positive,” Musk added, sharing his frustration over the constant flow of the “news that makes one sad & angry.” >>

    I think that it is simple: when beset with negative emotions most of us humans don’t rely primarily on logic for our actions — we rely on older, more instinctive thought processes. The older, more instinctive though processes are more easily manipulated by outside actors. We are beset by negative media because it makes us easier to control.

    #100511
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Coincidentally, Bill M. makes a few of my points–well not exactly, but I will call it Exhibit B:
    https://youtu.be/RYSLyvbR_1w

    <iframe width=”560″ height=”315″ src=”https://www.youtube.com/embed/RYSLyvbR_1w&#8221; title=”YouTube video player” frameborder=”0″ allow=”accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture” allowfullscreen></iframe>

    #100512
    absolute galore
    Participant

    Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong in terms of trying to embed a video? I cut and paste the Youtube code directly. It looks exactly the same as other video embed code in the comments section. But I must be missing something?

    #100513
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    More about Remdesivir:

    US hospitals that give Remdesivir to covid-test-positive Medicare patients typically get an extra $19,500 “add-on” payment from the government as an incentive to give it.

    …the total Medicare reimbursement would be $75,500—the typical outlier payment of $56,000, plus the add-on payment of $19,500… “You would only get $56,00 normally, but because of the add-on payment, you get $75,500,” he said.

    https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/cms-hikes-payment-for-covid-19-19452/

    Why would the US government be pushing Remdesivir? Could it have anything to do with the US government buying “most of the world’s Remdesivir” in 2020?

    https://theconversation.com/the-us-has-bought-most-of-the-worlds-remdesivir-heres-what-it-means-for-the-rest-of-us-141791

    #100514
    morongobill
    Participant

    No mention yet of Luc’s death on Google or Duck Duck Go search front pages. Plenty of fact checkers though.

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