Debt Rattle February 9 2023

 

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  • #128614
    John Day
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    From RT: US President Joe Biden’s administration on Wednesday blasted Pulitzer Prize winner Seymour Hersh for claiming that Washington was behind last year’s sabotage of Russia’s Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines, saying reporting by the veteran investigative journalist was “utterly false and complete fiction.” https://www.rt.com/news/571193-white-house-denies-nord-stream-sabotage/

    Volodymyr Zelensky popped up in London yesterday, lobbying for fighter jets, got a “maybe” on that, and an agreement to train some pilots. Zelensky posed with a gushing PM Rishi Sunak in front of a large, manly “Challenger” main battle tank. Charles III received him at Buckingham Palace that afternoon.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-pledges-fighter-pilot-training-ukraine-zelensky-surprise-visit

    After a surprise UK visit, Ukraine’s President Zelensky went to Paris immediately afterward in a whirlwind European tour to meet with Western leaders. In Paris he held talks with French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz
    Macron asserted during the visit that Russia cannot win the war against Ukraine. “Ukraine can count on France, its European partners and allies to win the war. Russia cannot and must not win,” Macron said before a working dinner among the three leaders at the Elysee Palace. (Hell I’m convinced now…)
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/macron-says-russia-cannot-win-against-ukraine-while-hosting-zelensky

    “Biggest Disaster In The Last Century”: Turkey-Syria Earthquake Death Toll Surpasses 20,000
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/turkey-syria-quake-death-toll-tops-17000

    ​ ​1,200 emergency personnel were being dispatched to Turkey in a coordinated effort by the European Union and partner countries.
    ​ ​Reporting by Aljazeera, Reuters and the Associated Press shows that efforts to send rescue teams, medical staff and other emergency personnel by non-EU countries even surpassed this effort, adding up to approximately 1,400 persons as of early Wednesday morning.
    However, as Statista’s Katharina Buchholz notes, while news wire reports indicate that more than 40 countries and territories have sent or were preparing to send teams to Turkey, the same was just known of three countries and territories concerning Syria: Russia, Algeria and Palestine.
    ​ ​While the majority of the destruction and the victims of the earthquakes are located in Turkey, the humanitarian situation in Syria was already strained before the disaster, diminishing the country’s ability to deal with the aftermath of the earthquake effectively.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/who-sending-rescue-teams-turkey-and-syria

    #128616
    John Day
    Participant

    Maybe Substack links won’t upload again. I’ll space it out Talking About Nuclear War
    https://drjohnsblog.substack. com/p/talking-about-nuclear-war

    #128617
    John Day
    Participant

    Hokay, spacing substack links between dot and com

    Let’s Talk about Nuclear War , Ruben Bauer Naveira
    ​ ​The United States and Russia – the two greatest nuclear powers on the planet – have embarked on a wide-ranging “indirect war”. All that now remains is for them to engage in direct warfare, which will end up happening sooner or later. If later, it will be exactly because both powers are aware that any direct war between them will inevitably escalate into nuclear war, with a good chance of devastating them both.
    ​ ​How we reached this point will not be examined in depth here. Very briefly, both parties regard this as a struggle for existence – Russia, in order to continue to exist as a nation (in Putin’s words, “there is no compromise, a country is either sovereign or a colony”), and the United States, to continue to exist as the nation with hegemony over the rest (the US economy has become so reliant on that hegemony that its end would entail the country’s collapse).
    ​ ​Accordingly, both are willing to take the conflict to its ultimate consequences in order to prevail, and thus nuclear war becomes more inevitable with every passing day.
    ​ ​Among those responsible for a nuclear war that will be the downfall of all Humankind, there can be no “good guy”. However, when one side is fighting to subsist with autonomy, while the other is fighting in order to dominate the rest, it is not difficult to discern which is most the “bad guy”.

    Let’s talk about nuclear war

    ​ I have been thinking a lot about nuclear war recently, as you may have been, also. It has been sitting there on the shelf my whole life, but we have not been in the habit of worrying about it for the past 30 years or so. We were in the habit of worrying about it before that time.
    ​ The spectre of nuclear war was part of the control-narrative that directed our national policy in the cold war years in the US. My family and other families, all had plans of where to go for the air-raid warnings and where to meet after the bombs. “Duck and Cover” in the classroom. “Get under your desk if you can.”
    “This is a test of the Emergency Broadcasting System. This is only a test.”
    Presidents Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon, Carter, Reagan and even G.H.W. Bush had been in war. Many civilian functionaries in government had been in war. Now it is rare at all levels outside the military. This is now merely conceptual in the minds of almost all decision makers in the US, and the west in general. This is game-theory, not reality.
    It’s fair to assume that most modern decision makers are self centered, not so compassionate or principled. Self-centered types mostly care about what they feel and what they want, and that is the “reality” they engage in their lives. An abstract game, where the player has little perceived risk, due to fallout shelters being present in Washington DC, and those “DUMBs” (deep underground military bases) will predispose the player to prioritize “winning” over risk-reduction strategies.
    I think we all see that nuclear war is treated much more casually in Washington than it was when I was a boy growing up on military bases.

    I don’t think that decision makers are “crazy”. I think they are “rational-actors”, as that theory is named, but I see perverse incentives laid out for them by the current bureaucratic system, which lead to life-forms like me being placed at very high risk, as they play-to-win which is the feeling they like.
    I pray for guidance often. I do not fear my own death, but I do not want to suffer, do not want all my family to suffer. I can do some limited things. I should repair that cracked water-tank I was given, and paint it and set it up. I should have some propane and a propane-stove for back-up if utilities go down. I should get more rice, beans, salt, oil, and canned goods in the pantries. These are all temporizing measures in a collapse, not the makings of a new life.
    When I was a kid we all knew that we would all work together when the time came, all work as teams to survive. I don’t know that now.
    Do you know anything like that now?

    Gilbert Doctorow, fluent in Russian, is back in Europe after recent travels. Thanks Christine.
    ​ ​The coming existential threat: do we act in common or is it going to be every man for himself?​
    ​After a month of only very limited reception of Russian news, due to satellite issues and hotel service issues, last night I switched on Russian state television’s news and talk show “Sixty Minutes” on http://www.smotrim.ru and got a full blast of the current state of relations with the US, which are very close to Doomsday.
    ​ ​Allow me to share with you the key point, namely the soon to be announced changes to the Russian doctrine on first use of nuclear weapons and their new more precise red lines that have come about from the plans for Russia’s partition and destruction that seem to be aired daily on US television.
    ​ ​As usual, Yevgeny Popov, State Duma member and host of “Sixty Minutes,” put a lot of video segments from Western television up on the screen, including a lengthy statement by Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, former commander of all U.S. forces in Europe from 2014 to 2017, on how the Ukrainians must be given long range precision missiles for them to attack Russian Crimea and also further into the Russian heartland. The interview from which this declaration was made does not yet appear in Google search, but from interviews posted in 2022 it is clear that Hodges is no madman, and his statements must, as Popov said, be taken with utmost seriousness.
    ​ ​The context, of course, for the radical escalation now being discussed in the United States is the expectation of a massive Russian offensive to begin shortly as the anniversary of the Special Military Operation approaches. The imminent defeat of Ukrainian forces has focused minds in Washington.
    ​One of the regular panelists on “Sixty Minutes” then faced the cameras directly and said that Russia’s nuclear doctrine is under revision in light of these aggressive plans being aired in the United States, so that Russia is headed towards a policy of ‘preventive’ tactical nuclear strikes, similar to what the United States has. Moreover, if Ukraine targets Crimea and heartland Russia, then Russia will respond according to plans now being laid down. These plans foresee counter strikes against U.S military installations in Europe and in the Continental United States using hypersonic missiles. The panelist calls for this threat of counter strikes in Europe and the US to be made public and explicit, so that no one is in doubt about what to expect from the Kremlin.
    ​ ​So here we are. The Russians are stripping away the fiction of a proxy war and revealing the co-belligerent status of the US and its NATO allies in preparation for a kinetic war with NATO. As our illustrious former President, a man of few words, would say: “Not good!”
    The coming existential threat: do we act in common or is it going to be every man for himself?

    ​ Roger Waters addressed the UN Security Council (2/8/23, 14 min.) He did his best to call for an immediate ceasefire for billions of people without a voice.
    ​ Russia invited Roger Waters to speak at the UNSC even though the Russians perfectly knew and understood that Roger Waters does not share the same view of this war as Russia does.

    Roger Waters addresses the UNSC (at the invitation of Russia)

    #128618
    John Day
    Participant

    WHY IS VENEZUELA’S GOLD STILL FROZEN IN THE BANK OF ENGLAND?​ (Working hard to come up with a new fake excuse.)
    Four years ago, the UK government recognised Juan Guaidó as Venezuela’s president. He’s now gone, but the Bank of England is still holding some of the country’s key assets.

    Why is Venezuela’s gold still frozen in the Bank of England?

    ​ ​Fierce Backlash As Project Veritas Sidelines James O’Keefe After Pfizer Bombshells​ The Pfizer Empire Strikes Back​ (tactical strike, hope he’s guarded​)
    ​ ​The board of directors of Project Veritas on Wednesday placed its founder and chairman, James O’Keefe, on paid leave as it reportedly moves to oust him from his leadership position.​..​
    ​..​Widespread reports of a hostile takeover point to a more insidious long game at play, with the move coming after two bombshell undercover video reports from Project Veritas that showed a Pfizer research scientist discussing the company’s gain-of-function work to maximize vaccine profits.​
    Project Veritas’s board is slated to meet Friday, when O’Keefe’s potential ouster will be discussed, one source told the Intelligencer.
    ​ ​The backlash from all fronts was fierce and furious when news broke about the brewing coup.
    ​ ​“Absolute madness if he is being forced out just weeks after Project Veritas celebrates one of their greatest-ever journalistic investigations with which O’Keefe was intimately involved,” wrote Human Events editor Ben Kew.
    ​ ​“There is no Project Veritas without James O’Keefe,” Candace Owens tweeted. “I say this as a donor to the organization, but more importantly as a colleague who watched him pour everything he had into PV over the years. The money and supporters will follow James.”
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/fierce-backlash-project-veritas-sidelines-james-okeefe-after-pfizer-bombshells

    ​Video: Bill Gates Says It’s OK For Him To Use Private Jets Because He’s “The Solution” To Climate Change​ (Honestly, I did not watch the video.)
    ​ ​Gates claimed that because he continues to “spend billions of dollars” on climate change activism, his carbon footprint isn’t an issue.
    ​ ​“Should I stay at home and not come to Kenya and learn about farming and malaria?” Gates said in the interview with Amol Rajan.
    ​ ​“I’m comfortable with the idea that not only am I not part of the problem by paying for the offsets, but also through the billions that my Breakthrough Energy Group is spending, that I’m part of the solution,” Gates added.​ (And his very money is clean, immaculate, because it comes from… INVESTMENTS.)​

    Video: Bill Gates Says It’s OK For Him To Use Private Jets Because He’s “The Solution” To Climate Change

    #128620
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Andre Derain Boats at Collioure 1905

    Great painting but makes me think of painting by numbers.

    #128621
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    NATOstan government-owned mainstream media are preparing the masses for telling them that the war in Ukraine is lost because the NATOstan governments know the war is lost.

    #128622
    Oroboros
    Participant

    After Britain ships it’s last tank and last round of ammunition to Ukronaziland, leaving itself totally defenseless, a dim light of consequence dawns on the nation

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    #128623
    jb-hb
    Participant

    I trolled through mainstream media today regarding Bakhmut and found a bunch of articles saying:

    It is unclear if Bakhmut has any strategic importance (aren’t you a journalist writing about Bakhmut and the Ukraine war? THAT’s your factual statement for this article about Bakhmut?)
    Bakhmut, although of no great strategic importance, has become an important symbol to both sides

    Not every article, but those messages are getting repeated.

    https://news.yahoo.com/russia-prepares-thousands-tanks-armoured-224200059.html

    I pulled up this Yahoo article about Ukraine from the last 24 hours and read the comments. Oh my god. I sincerely HOPE those are all bots. A comical/horrifying level of certainty and ignorance.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/09/bakhmut-on-a-knife-edge-as-russia-claims-its-soldiers-are-in-the-city.html

    “Sak said Russian forces were taking “staggering losses” in the process, as they deploy newly mobilized and inexperienced soldiers “

    “They don’t have time to even prepare the newly mobilized soldiers. So they’re throwing them [in] as cannon fodder”

    “Russians also accept any losses at the moment, their tolerance for losses is unlimited so they don’t care how many people they lose. At all,” Zagorodnyuk, the current chair of the Kyiv-based Centre for Defense Strategies think tank,“For us, it’s a totally different situation. We do care how many people will lose, because it’s our people

    If Ukraine lost Bakhmut, it would not be “the end of the world,” he observed. “It’s not like losing Bakhmut means the whole Donbas [eastern region of Ukraine] goes, we definitely cannot say that.”

    facepalm

    #128624
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The UK’s leading Jewish organisation and a group of MPs have called on GB News and the media regulator Ofcom to tackle the broadcaster’s indulgence of conspiracy theories, warning that some recent segments and guests risked spreading ideas linked to antisemitism.

    Jews will Jew, making themselves loved even more as the censors of the good white folks. Dr D, your turn to explain why people are pissed off with left wing Jews and their leashing of the English with anti-semitism laws. Jews making themselves enemies of the white folks is going to result in the white folks saying the Jews are the enemy: cause and effect.

    #128625
    aspnaz
    Participant

    When reached for comment on his personal cell phone, O’Keefe said nothing in response and did not respond to follow-up calls and text messages.

    Looks like this is the end of Project Veritas. Let’s hope O’Keefe can set up a replacement organisation to continue what he has been doing over the last few years.

    #128626
    aspnaz
    Participant

    During the COVID-19 pandemic, the rapid development and deployment of SARS-CoV-2 vaccines has saved innumerable lives and helped to achieve early partial pandemic control.”

    Note the word “innumerable.” It means there is no number and no possibility of a number.

    I bet the number is negative.

    #128627
    Oroboros
    Participant

    World Leaders and their pets

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    #128628
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The UK’s leading Jewish organisation and a group of MPs have called on GB News and the media regulator Ofcom to tackle the broadcaster’s indulgence of conspiracy theories, warning that some recent segments and guests risked spreading ideas linked to antisemitism.

    Are these the same Jewish organisations that removed Jeremy Corbyn from the leadership of the Labour party in the UK? You know, like the Muslims removed Teressa May? /s

    #128629
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Germ said

    ula says that Brazilian citizens could only receive financial aid from the government only if they have taken a vaccine.

    After the pandemic, when people know the vaccine does not stop Covid. Is this an admission by Pfizer that the vaccine is a kill shot, not a Covid shot? Next phase: WEF and Billy Boy instruct you take the vaccine or be incarcerated with Mongo the man eating serial killer, you have a slim chance of survival with the vaccine, but not with Mongo.

    #128630
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @jb-hb

    Your observations and analysis of GPTchat is spot on, and (as you also observed) suggests an effective antidote. Because the chatbot has been programmed to promote various “Woke” (WEF / Cabal / Bad Guys) values it is totally easy to both identify and confound the diabolical contrivance by asking it questions which it cannot sanely answer due to its intransigent pre-programmed values, false “facts” and evil purpose.

    #128631
    zerosum
    Participant

    D Benton Smith

    I want to disagree, GPTchat is already fooling most people.
    Therefore, we need a program to get to the truth.
    ( Not a university program)

    #128632
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @aspnaz

    Because the Cabal (as I call them) has so manipulatively insinuated itself into the Jewish ethnic structure (so as to remain hidden behind the protective shied of alleged “anti-Semitism” , while simultaneously depending upon that same structure to create and wield power) they are thus obligated by NECCESSITY to defend the structure and their own role in it. To execute such an emergency “last ditch” defense they must emerge from behind the curtain, and thereby reveal themselves. They cannot avoid it, and it is also a unmistakable signal of their impending defeat. I believe the descriptive expression of their position is called “panic mode”.

    #128633
    WES
    Participant

    On ZH the Ukrainians are supposedly upset about Musk’s Skylink not allowing them to use Skylink for controlling their attack drones. Sometimes such headlines can be a little misleading to say the least.

    First, there would be good reasons for Skylink to limit Skylink coverage to inside the Ukraine, while excluding coverage in Russian controlled areas. That means an Ukrainian drone operating over Russian controlled territory would likely lose some access to Skylink. Likely the drones can send but not receive data.

    Second, I suspect Russia is able to accurately locate any Skylink routers in the Ukraine, as these routers routinely send and receive internet signals. So a given Skylink router could potentially be targeted by jamming or with a loud bang.

    As far as I know Russia hasn’t targeted Skylink at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if Skylink is ironically a big help to Russia.

    I often read how the war in the Ukraine is just a repeat of WW1’s trench warfare. It is and it isn’t.

    For the Ukrainians, it is WW1 style static trench/bunker warfare, now that they have lost most of their mobile armor and are no longer a mobile army and mostly fight on Shank’s Mare.

    For Russia, however, they are still a 100% mobile army, even if they build some defensive trenches and bunkers. Most of the Russian soldiers are not sitting in frontline trenches and bunkers, waiting to be shelled like the Ukrainians are. Instead Russian soldiers stay out of the reach of Ukrainian artillery and ride up to the front in armor protected vehicles, largely protected from Ukrainian artillery (mostly destroyed beforehand).

    Russian soldiers are also being rotated out every 3 or 4 months, while the Ukrainian soldiers are not being rotated out until most of a unit’s soldiers are dead or wounded, and the unit needs to be refreshed. I am convinced most Ukrainian soldiers never actually see any Russian soldiers, before they die or get wounded. What a way to fight a war. A one-sided turkey shoot.

    #128634
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @ZeroSum

    I want to disagree, GPTchat is already fooling most people.
    Therefore, we need a program to get to the truth.
    ( Not a university program)

    That’s not fully disagreement, but more of case in point of the problem. Of course GPTchat is fooling many people. “You can fool some of the people all of the time”, as some famous guy once said.

    What I offer is a means of preventing the Cabal’s “AI” bots from fooling ALL of the people THIS time.

    #128635
    Dora
    Participant

    A little more about the Swiss situation.

    Pascal Najadi, an International Banker Who Filed Criminal Charges against President of Switzerland

    Pascal Najadi, an International Banker Who Filed Criminal Charges against President of Switzerland

    https://twitter.com/PKikos/status/1620898942367186944

    #128636
    citizenx
    Participant

    There’s an old ego joke about- how do you tell who is the climbing guide at the party?

    Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.

    Same for Jews. Or liberal Jews who are “buddhists”. Funny story of just how shifty these “Jews” are-
    The first bunch of times I spoke with my neighbor she constantly brought up that she is a Russian Jew.
    As if that meant anything to me, especially knowing that Jews were rather dominant in the Russian revolution and were protected by Stalin and “Holocausted” by the Nazis (ash-ke-nazi IQ whatever).

    Yesterday I spoke with her….and now she’s a “Ukranian Jew” don’t ya know. Forget about the fact that she was born in the US and is not a practicing Jew. I reminded her that she is a human being first, regardless of how she identifies. Talk about a Nationalist Racist Liar who was a total f’n Karen during the “pandemic”.
    ….

    MICHIGAN HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR DIES AFTER COLLAPSING IN THE MIDDLE OF BASKETBALL GAME

    Cartier Woods, a senior at Northwestern High School in Michigan, collapsed during the middle of a basketball game on Jan. 31. The 18-year-old unfortunately passed away on Feb. 6 after being put on life support.

    Michigan High School Senior Dies After Collapsing In The Middle Of Basketball Game

    Thank goodness he was vaccinated… it could have been much worse.

    Another One bites the dust….

    #128637
    WES
    Participant

    D Smith:

    Maybe we could just ask. “What are you not allowed to talk about?”

    #128638
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @WES

    Maybe we could just ask. “What are you not allowed to talk about?”

    That is a brilliantly good question.

    #128639
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Summary of a few comments from ZH which may be of interest.

    It looks like the Project Veritas coup may be the work of the Koch brothers. Funding for PV is mostly controlled by the Kochs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Veritas#Funding_and_organization if you can believe wikipedia (mostly not).

    The Kochs are big investors in big pharma and put money into fighting against drug pricing reform. The PV latest coup against Pfizer should be putting them on a high. No coincidences.

    Note that the Kochs are also the biggest funders of DeSantis, with latest rumours being that they are dropping Trump for DeSantis. It also appears to be the case that the Project Veritas attorney is also working for DeSantis.

    Can’t vouch for any of this, but it is an interesting line of enquiry.

    #128640
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Pray to stop nuclear war!

    #128641
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Rumor based update on Ukraine – from gleaned zh commenters who seem to think they have “sources”

    up until recently, there were 3 routes to Bakhmut (the linchpin of the Ukranian line in Donbas)

    North (T0513) towards Siversk (this was cut when Soledar and Blahodate were taken)
    Northwest (M03) towards Slovyansk
    Southwest (T0504) towards Kostyantynivka

    “i hear the tanks terminators and tos are now grinding the suburbs of chasiv yar.”

    A couple days ago, it seemed to me like Russian forces might take a step to the left around Ivanivske and if they’re in Chasiv Yar, then they either sidestepped or went through. Anyway, that cuts the road Southwest (T0504) completely if true.

    tonight 3000 ukes lined up behind the remaining tanks at slovyansk freeway and charged the soledar line more than 1000 dead at first attempt.

    Ugh. Horrible. Anyway, that would mean Northwest (M03) was already cut and they were trying rather desperately to clear it.

    That would still leave Ukraine in control of areas west of Bakhmut, but I see no road or rail links through there on satellite map, just farm fields.

    “Russia’s offensive. At least 3 Russian divisions advance, gain territory in Luhansk, NV of Svatove.”
    (reply) “Kupiansk too”

    That’s in a line more than halfway from Bakhmut up to Kharkov.

    If we simply invert perfectly what the Ukranian thinktank guy said in my last post, it tracks exactly

    So this would be when Ukraine starts to crack. Idunno what NATO thinks they can do but send the entire Polish army dressed in Ukranian uniforms. Send 12 tanks in 3 months? Send a bunch of NATO “peacekeepers” to wave their arms authoritatively and block the way?

    #128642
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    @aspnax

    I bet the number is negative.

    The number is the product of the benefit of the vaccine times the risk of dying of Covic, both of which are imaginary, so yeah, it’s negative.

    #128687
    Polemos
    Participant

    I think it’s a mistake to approach ChatGPT as a singular entity and seek consistency across encounters —what we tend to do with one another as commentors. Approach each instance of chat as a wiped encounter, pulling from a cloud of approved and disapproved networks of interrelated data structures (neither facts nor opinions nor imaginary claims, but narratives), with some measure of (pseudo)randomness thrown in to spice diverse responses, and probably a specific database of interactions with your cookies or phone number or tracking ID.

    I am unaware if people have asked the virtual machine to respond as, say, an inner city black man who only passed seventh grade and only reads Iceberg Slim or James Patterson novels (😏). But why not? If it continues to affect this horrible phrase pattern and obsequious style, someone might claim ChatGPT so white, too bougie, or something like that. I can’t be the only person to notice its narratival voice is … distinctive.

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