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    Dorothea Lange Ex-slave with long memory, Alabama 1937   • Zelensky Achieves Unique Results In The Destruction Of Ukraine (Zadorozhnaya) • Wagner
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 11 2023]

    #125764
    oxymoron
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    The sale of the vaccines to the US government was predicated upon their clinical trial data and thus if that data was fraudulent, Pfizer’s sales constitute fraud.

    Ah but if Pfizer is legally only manufacturing for the DoD then they cannot be held criminally liable. The DoD has given an indemnity shield to all of them as the Gov own the patent rights of the technology of slowly killing their own citizens.

    #125765
    aspnaz
    Participant

    A former US intelligence official has confirmed that the shambolic Maidan remix staged in Brasilia on 8 January was a CIA operation

    Pepe is so full of shit, always has been, especially in his articles about China. Quoting retired intelligence officials, especially un-named ones, is typical. On the basis of his China articles, I am sure this is not what is happening in Brazil.

    #125767
    oxymoron
    Participant

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say Pepe is full of shit. I think that is a bit of a stretch. Perhaps you disagree with aspects of his content, but I find he writes enough that there has to be some content you agree with, surely.

    Anyway, you did make a good point aspnaz and it is good to always check what we are reading lest we get complacent.
    I’m gunna try to stay ripped. Maybe not shredded like Bruce Lee or Dr D, but ripped will do for now. We are in a 5 g war afterall. 🙂

    #125771
    Dr. D
    Participant

    The Conservatives sure will cut homelessness: they’ll all be dead. To be fair, so will the non-homeless, so: social justice and equity.

    Big Mac indicator: And 1980 was not all that prosperous; in most ways it was a wreck. But goes to show.

    “reduce the population of Ukraine to the level of a century ago,
    catastrophic drop in the birth rate (along with Holland)
    by 2030 the population will decrease to 3515 million”

    Slavic genocide. Sounded hyperbolic when I first started saying it, didn’t it? Now same process, same human-killing fire hose, directed at Poland. BY London and the WEF. “Die for me bro’” and they do it. Gleefully.

    ““..it appears that 40% of the Ukrainian electrical grid is down forever, since nobody (except Russia) can replace the extremely heavy (and costly) transformers..”

    The U.S. learns nothing, like goldfish, as our transformers are made in China, who we are desperate to start a war with. …And our copper, and our steel, and our wire, and our antibiotics, and our drugs, and our masks, and our shoes, and our cars…

    …But if you’re trying to kill everybody: good plan. If you’re trying to LET everybody be killed, you the population, man on the street: good plan, just stand by, let them.

    “the Moscow Patriarchate, which then turned against Moscow and condemned the SMO….NATO is planning to completely ban the parishes”

    It’s a religion. You will have no gods by MY gods. It is therefore by definition, a theocracy. Like Handmaid’s Tale, perhaps. We love it, want more of it. Please me next.

    Obviously, as if I have to say it, freedom of religion is a basic human right. That right is codified into foundational law by both the UN and the U.S. Then both of them totally ignore and trample Law and Rights every where they can find them. “The Law is whatever I SAY it is: now do what you’re TOLD.” And I TOLD you to violate every tenet of your religion for my amusement and 50c.

    “and hope to drag it out for a decade or so, that will destroy Russia. … The longer it lasts, the greater the damage to the West.”

    Clearly, you’re missing the point: the goal is to murder EVERYONE, all humans on earth. They are like 500 men, so they can’t do it themselves, they need US to do it to each other. So the fact that it kills the West is a GOAL, not a drawback. The more in the West it kills the happier they are.

    Then follows on lots of problems: America doesn’t run the 5 Eyes but quite clearly the other way around: UK installed our President with the Steele dossier, it seems, and has for decades. All the “Nobility” he speaks of have intellectual fealty to Davos and the WEF although they are sub 1% of the U.S. population. That Noble class is not unique to the West but is deeply shared by Russian oligarchs and indeed most of the planet, who also attack whoever they can. In Africa, Asia, in Czechoslovakia and Hungary, as well as in the Spanish American war. It’s a “Dominant Paradigm” we hold in common with Russia.

    C’mon man, you know this. I’m sad to see Russia getting blinded by their own emotions. Deeply held, mostly repressed, this seems to be how they finally express their emotions, so I wonder once they’re blinded by this rot, what leverage the Anglos will make out of their pointless failure to think clearly. No good, I’m sure.

    “ G7 Wants to Force India to Accept Russian Oil Price Cap – Reuters (RT)”

    How entertaining: India is larger than the G7 combined. And without Russian oil they will collapse like Sri Lanka. P.S. how is Sri Lanka? I assume it’s useful and illuminating example that points to all the wrong villains (WEF) and all the right solutions (decentralization), and that’s why we aren’t allowed to hear anything about it.

    Why the CIA Attempted a ‘Maidan Uprising’ In Brazil (Escobar)”

    The U.S. Twitterati/Social Media was amazed they had their own J6 with their own Shaman, but they shouldn’t be: the answer, which is also the obvious conclusion is that they were both orchestrated and fabricated by the same people. And P.S. Brazil also has real shamans (duh), AND the shaman circulating is old footage, carefully placed (Nice).

    Here’s more to the point: Like the U.S.. Lula won. K? Then the most popular President in world history, who couldn’t fill a High School Gym, immediately has an approval rating in the 30%’s. Ummmm….

    Lula, for example, is astonishingly popular, which is why he isn’t safe in public anywhere in Brazil. They say Bolsonaro “Fled” Brazil? WTF does that mean? He got on a plane. People do that all the time. He’s “Bolt holed” they say. Boltholed in the Orlando Holiday Inn? I think you have to do better than that: words have meanings for Christ’s sake. Can you just say he left before his term ended on expectation Lula would arrest him, and that is suspicious? Is telling the truth just too hard, the fact itself isn’t good enough, you have to make stuff up?

    Anyway, so Lula “Fled” Brasilia, the un-integrated capital (much as D.C. is a space-landing ant colony of outsiders, totally unrelated to the U.S. or Mid-Atlantic economy/people). Lula isn’t safe there EVEN IN THE CAPITAL because apparently he was so popular?

    He then fled to Sao Paolo, where he is also unable to go anywhere, do anything, or be near crowds – again, like Biden and Trudeau, because he is so amazingly popular.

    So I don’t know enough about Brazil, but I have to say that’s not a great sign for the legitimacy of his presidency and the soundness of the election. I also don’t know their politics well, but Bolsonaro is about anything but Far-Right. But the American media said it, therefore it is a lie. No need to check: for this century, that is a perfect truism. Their J6 should just confirm he’s an air-dropped CIA/WEF man, some random Guido.

    But yes, I also skip Escobar a lot because he’s careless and pejorative. It’s not geopolitical journalism if it’s just blogged opinions like the Saker. I don’t want to confuse the two, which is interesting. I know where he comes from: why would I NOT be okay to mix them?

    “Biden’s Classified-Records Headache Is Garland’s Nightmare (Turley)”

    What headache? Garland don’t GAF. And he missed the USSC seat, so then lets USSC Judges be attacked and kidnapped, the kind of guy he is.

    They miss a bunch of things: What R the odds? A day later, Secret docs. Like Joe tripping 3x, or fleeing F-Stan in Helicopters. Who punched it into the media and got it covered? They never covered anything before. Trump was President and can look down at the hall of records and like the Pope, declassify everything he sees to the horizon and it would arguably be legal. They cannot prove he did NOT do that to all the boxes he took. However Joe was VICE President and has no such powers. Etc. But why bother?

    The media jumps in to cover, knowing nothing about it, high as El Chapo on their ignorance, asking no questions, but we already knew that.

    As we see with Pfizer, next article “It is Fraud” / “Nothing has been done.” Which is our new national anthem.

    The second verse is that the people believe it, and you can’t convince them otherwise. “Get you and your stupid facts out of here.”

    #125772
    Germ
    Participant

    Andrew Bridgen suspended as Tory MP over Covid vaccine comments

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64236687

    TVASF

    #125773

    FAA grounds ALL US domestic flight?! Glad I’m not a air-traffic controller there. You’d wanna get you some AI. That’s one complex system.

    Until 9AM ET no less. Imagine the chaos.

    #125774
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #125775
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #125776
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I’ve got your back buddy

    Pass the popcorn

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    #125777
    Germ
    Participant

    I would urge you all to give Yon a listen:

    ON THE FRONTLINES: “GLOBAL FAMINE IS COMING”

    TVASF

    #125778
    Germ
    Participant

    #125779
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Mr Roger to Matt Gaetz:

    “You and me Loretta, pistols at dawn out in the parking lot at dawn”

    Matt Gaetz’s reply:

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    #125780
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Fisticuffs

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    #125781
    Oroboros
    Participant

    What a sorry looking bunch of ‘leaders’ the Empire of Lies is.

    #125782
    Positive Dennis
    Participant

    I realize it takes time to check things, but I would rather have fewer entires that you take the time to evaluate. A Big Mac in 1980 cost $1.60 and $4.10 today. The ratio to the minimum wage has not changed much.

    #125783
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Hakeem Jeffries

    Being Groomed for Greatness

    Another Oreo

    “I wuv you Kevin, I wuv you so wery, wery much!”

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    #125784
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Possibly the previous link to Radix was meant to get here: https://surplusenergyeconomics.wordpress.com/2023/01/09/245-2023-navigating-the-narratives/

    “Fossil fuel energy has ceased to be low-cost and can be expected, in consequence, to become a lot less abundant as well. With no complete replacement available for the energy value hitherto sourced from fossil fuels, the economy can only contract.” Etc, expand.

    “a contraction which seems likely to be disorderly. … the onset of ‘de-globalization’ has started to gain some notice, the process of de-financialization has not.”

    He does however restate several mischaracterizations that it too me years to see through. One is the Club of Rome in 1972. I’m not going to say this wasn’t a warning, it was a road map – this time. He says they accurately predicted (instead of made happen) the depletion of resources predicted there. But what you see isn’t that “people ignored” it because “it was inconvenient”. No: they knew, heard the news, and every leader worldwide took express and vigorous action to MAKE us use resources. Tax breaks, corporate resource oil subsidies, defunding rail, trolley, subsidizing roads: not a single trick was missed. Every one was used to CAUSE resource depletion and some new ones were invented.

    Nor are resources depleted. The U.S. in particular has frozen ALL resource use. Every mine was de-licensed, every mill shut down. Our rare earths we claim to be ‘national security’ has been on hold in Colorado for 20 years, insuring China’s “Stranglehold” on critical metals when we merely take a busload of men up and turn on the mine. 3 coasts are undrilled. We clearly have an astonishing level of oil below 30,000 feet (translation: into the magma) under the Gulf but absolutely have oil in Anwar and bubbling onto the shores of Malibu, wasted. Some enormous fraction of our great farmland was paved, but the rest taken out of use by being peppered with houses. None of this is by accident, it’s all government from on highest level, and generally against all the people’s wishes.

    So: odd that we get blamed. We didn’t set tax policy that REQUIRED this result: the acolytes of the Club of Rome did, as is the WEF and EU today. Explain? It’s all the world’s biggest coincidence I’m sure and nobody knew nothing.

    Now this is ASIDE from his blind spot as a Westerner that they, oil, is depleted AT ALL. It’s not depleted in the slightest. We can easily pump all the oil we did last year and at relatively low cost, although maybe not $15/bbl low. The problem is: It’s in Russia, Iran, and Venezuela. It’s in the Leviathan field and UAE which only transit through Syria. That is, WE don’t have the oil, THEY have the oil. If we buy it from them honestly we lose CONTROL. So they’d rather kill every German citizen than let that happen. And are predictably starting a war instead.

    But there’s no resource depletion. No really, or not yet.

    And that’s really surprising, as what is it, we pump and waste more every day than during an entire YEAR during WWII? Something along those lines. We really SHOULD be depleted if we waste that much on soccer moms and shipping goods 5x from mine around the world in parts to Amazon at your door. But I can only tell you what numbers are official and what contracts are signed, out of Russia and in Iran. 50 years in the future, and for rates where they haven’t even depleted the drilling yet, like we have the Bakkan Shale.

    Now WHY are all these things true? Surely if I can finally see them under my bridge, then people who are next door to Club of Rome, who are in committees who decide wars, who have to calculate what gas is off Crimea in the Black sea down to the MBTU, surely THEY know? So they know and they’re not telling us, not even down as far as the local MP’s? Uh-huh. WHY?

    Why do they WANT the PERCEPTION of resource depletion, end of the world desperation, if it isn’t actually true and we could all just honestly buy things? Do with a little less, use it up, wear it out?

    I don’t know. You tell me. Because that is – OFFICIALLY – what is happening. According to all our national mining, oil, and gas log books. The U.S. would rather have a rebellion over high unemployment, would rather lose a war to China, than go up to CO and turn on the rare earth mine that employs and prospers people. …And the silver mines, and the gold mines, and the copper mines…

    WHY?

    There’s going to be a global famine, yes, when we don’t get fertilizer WE HAVE. While we shut down thousands of farms that WE ALREADY HAVE. To create shortages ON PURPOSE. Then blame “Global Warming”.

    WHY?

    #125785
    The Markster
    Participant

    No time here to do much cross checking or independent research to verify, but tending to trust Escobar’s interpretation of the events in Brazil today as opposed to the angle taken by Kunstler yesterday. I like Kunstler a lot, and think Brazil should be run by the Brazilians, but it is amazing to me how some can see CIA manipulation all day long on most domestic operations, but then willingly ignore the possibility of same abroad.

    It is a terrible tragedy what is happening in Ukraine, most especially for the Ukrainian people. Lost another potential friend recently for countering a lunchtime narrative about her buddy fighting for a contractor on behalf of freedom in Ukraine. Midway through our lunch plates I had the bad manners to restate her position as one of support for a mercenary getting paid to butcher Slavic people on behalf of the Satanic US-NATO war machine. After which she threw a $20 bill on the table and stormed out without another word. Flashbacks of losing friends on Facebook for questioning Russiagate circa 2017-2019!

    And all this in a small red county town where reputations and stories travel fast. Funny how living in a collapsing, brittle, divided and dying empire with a smart mouth can be so isolating and potentially dangerous. Loose lips sinking ships and all that…

    But hey, at least I have a fleeting sense of virtual community each morning tapping on this little gadget over coffee and TAE. Many Blessings! ☮️

    #125786
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Oxymoron

    Your comment : “Ah but if Pfizer is legally only manufacturing for the DoD then they cannot be held criminally liable. The DoD has given an indemnity shield to all of them as the Gov own the patent rights of the technology of slowly killing their own citizens.”

    That’s true, and it is also a wonderful example of why most people would just stop thinking altogether when they reached that inescapable (but horrifying) conclusion.

    Why would they stop thinking at that point?

    Why, I’ll tell you. They want to stop thinking because to continue thinking BEYOND that point would lead to the inescapable, but even MORE horrifying conclusion, that a case can be made ( and IS made) for the idea that it is fitting, proper and LEGAL for a government to kill as many of its own citizens as it considers to be fitting, proper and legal.

    And just who, pray tell, is that “government?” Hmm. Good question, and also a big argument.

    #125787
    Red
    Participant

    Dr. D “words have meanings for Christ’s sake” yes they do and they mean what we, perceived authority, say they mean. The editors at Websters must be putting in some serious overtime trying to keep up with the new definitions. In the near future I expect them to just print out a new dictionary that is but one page:
    “all words have the same meaning, what ever is in vogue at the highest level today. Check you screen for the definition”.

    #125788
    Kassandra
    Participant

    Thanks Germ for that article. Did you read the last paragraph?

    Extensive independent research shows that Covid vaccines are extremely effective at preventing deaths and that serious side effects (including approximately 60 deaths in England and Wales) are rare, given the tens of millions of doses administered.

    Now it’s just a few deaths, no biggie. Amazing how the narrative changes. And now the only benefit to taking the vax is “preventing death”? For a cold virus that doesn’t kill you?

    #125789
    Kassandra
    Participant

    The Markster :

    And all this in a small red county town where reputations and stories travel fast. Funny how living in a collapsing, brittle, divided and dying empire with a smart mouth can be so isolating and potentially dangerous. Loose lips sinking ships and all that…

    Same here. I don’t say a word to anyone about the war. I hear what people say about it here and there, and it’s obvious my opinion would be not welcome, and I too would lose “friends”. I am new here, in a blue dot of a small town surrounded by dark red (very red state) but red or blue, it is interesting how war can truly unite people around propaganda. Right now I only have one person in my life I feel I can be 100% myself around (besides my husband thank God!). Boy would that be a nightmare if we didn’t agree.

    #125790
    Germ
    Participant

    Once seen,
    can never be unseen!

    jab

    TVASF

    #125791
    Red
    Participant

    I asked Ed Dowd if I could have space in his book, “‘Cause Unknown’: The Epidemic of Sudden Deaths in 2021 and 2022,” for an article about what we saw around the world as mass vaccination commenced.

    In light of Dowd’s stunning analysis, it is particularly instructive to look at data for those countries that did not have high numbers of COVID-19 deaths prior to mass vaccination, because they afford the simplest comparison:

    They had very low rates of death attributed to COVID-19.
    Then they commenced mass vaccination.
    Then they experienced huge increases in deaths attributed to COVID-19.
    South Korea gives us a fast example among many: Prior to the country’s wide rollout of mRNA vaccines, Korea had almost no COVID-19 deaths. You see that nearly all their COVID-19 deaths occurred after mass vaccination.

    Due to frequent supply problems, South Korea’s mass vaccination program really took off after the third quarter of 2021 when they borrowed hundreds of thousands of Pfizer doses from Israel. Their COVID-19 deaths soon followed. That wasn’t supposed to happen.

    In November 2021, President Moon began a massive campaign to push boosters: “The vaccination can be completed only after receiving the third jab.” His citizens complied, reaching more than 90% of adults fully vaccinated — the chart shows the COVID-19 deaths that followed.

    The same pattern repeats all over the world, and since seeing is believing, I’ll pause here and resume in more detail after some quick sample charts …

    Seeing Is Believing: What the Data Reveal About Deaths Following COVID Vaccine Rollouts Around the World

    #125792
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The best way to avoid death by execution for having committed murder is to avoid conviction and sentencing for the crime. The best way to do that is to never be formally charged, arrested and tried in court. So how do you avoid being formally arrested, charged and tried in court?

    Here’s a way: keep talking about it endlessly (just to be SURE about everything and not miss anyone or unfairly charge the wrong people, right?) before taking any action whatsoever to actually charge, arrest and try any of the already known culprits.

    While meanwhile allowing the commission of the crime to continue unabated, BY the aforementioned known culprits, because there have not yet been any definitive judicial rulings about it because no one has yet been charged, tried, convicted and executed.

    Wheeeeeee! everybody yells as they spiral down into the cognitive rabbit hole at ever accelerating speeds.

    #125793
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF

    #125794
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Hmmm. The G7 wants India to accept the price cap on Russian oil.

    Will India agree? They recently became no. 3 car market in the world: China, US, now India. Most of the new Indian vehicles are petrol-powered. Where will that fuel come from? How much are they willing to pay for it?

    The geopolitcal manoeuvrings continue.

    #125795
    John Day
    Participant

    Wagner took Soledar, including the 186 miles of salt-mine tunnels, with stored munitions and weapons.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russias-wagner-touts-major-victory-over-salt-mining-town-donetsk

    #125796
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    So how do you charge, arrest, convict and punish persons of the government, when 100% the top positions controlling the entire apparatus for “charging/arresting/prosecuting” persons are held by those same persons that you need to be charged, arrested (etc) ?

    Hint : (you don’t)

    Second hint: think outside of the box dammit !

    Give up ? Okay. Think like Putin. By keeping earnest, sincere and entirely tangibly real pressure on the enemy the enemy is forced to self-destructively “protect” itself by committing suicide. LET THEM ! Just keep the pressure on just like you have been doing. Not too much & not not too little. Do a Goldilocks thing with the pressure. Build your strength at the same time that the enemy is SPENDING (losing) theirs. Rinse until your enemy has fully killed itself and is gone.

    #125797
    zerosum
    Participant

    Germ – Popcorn theory
    First step
    hospital emergency overwhelmed, operating rooms waiting lists
    Non-fatal/new/health/sudden health problems/weaken immune system, flue +2

    (Of course, nothing to do with covid or vaccines. Avoiding, “….. stormed out without another word”)
    Personally know, within 12 months, 3 approx. 80yrs, and 7 less than 60yrs.
    Dhuuuu! …. taking the vax is “preventing death”? For a cold virus that doesn’t kill you?
    ———–
    @ D Benton Smith

    Hint: Encourage them to get the boosters. Let them comite suicide. LET THEM !

    ———-
    Predictions 1: War
    Alternative Predictions 2: Cease fire, peacekeepers, peace/end of killing/destruction/shunning/isolation

    #125798
    Germ
    Participant

    Former ‘Eight Is Enough’ Child Star Adam Rich Dead at 54: Report

    “The Eight Is Enough alum was found dead in his Los Angeles home on Saturday, January 7…”

    ‘Eight Is Enough’ Alum Adam Rich Dead at 54: Report

    rich

    I am vaccinated because …?

    TVASF

    #125799
    Germ
    Participant

    That’s ALOT of popcorn!

    TVASF

    #125800
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I will always try to persuade a suicidal person to not do it. I will try my utmost to use the most effective persuasion that I can muster up. Sometimes it works. Sometimes the person wakes up to truthful, sane thinking and no longer wants to be suicidal. In that case they certainly are worth the effort it takes to save them. (and is both directly and indirectly beneficial to my own interests at the same time. Win win.

    Sometimes it does not work, and in those cases the self-destructive individual must be allowed to exercise their own free will as it pertains to their own self interests as they see them with their own awareness. They have the inalienable right to learn from their own mistakes if they insist upon it and decline to be helped. This does NOT mean that you should give in to them or give up on them. You should keep trying your damnedest to persuade them with the best truth you can muster up, right to the limit. But in the end, it is up to them to decide whether or not to accept truth or lie.

    #125801
    Germ
    Participant

    Remember – these “leaky” vaccines are driving the mutations!

    Watch GVB explain:
    https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/mutation-pressure-due-to-vaccination

    TVASF

    #125802
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Germ

    Back of the envelope super rough wild assed guess, based on Germany’s numbers comes to about 35 million excess deaths world wide . . . give or take. Further ball-parking the numbers half to death let’s say that for every outright death there will be half a dozen or so (let’s call it 10 just to make the shirt cuff arithmetic easier. That would be about 4 or 5 % of the world’s population will be shifted from the ranks of producers of goods into the ranks of non-productive receivers of care.

    The world’s demographics have just been sucker-punched, and this is quite in addition to the other shit that’s going to hell interactively at the same time.

    Collapse is a many splintered thing.

    #125805
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Big Mac
    I think that the 50c sandwich in 1980 was the lowly hamburger, and the $8 Big Mac today would be a Big Mac meal with a large fries and large soft drink. Which begs the question: why is the creator of this graphic trying to deceive us, gaslight us, and trying to yank on our emotions?
    Sure, I was age 6 in 1980 and my allowance was 40c a week — but we went to McDs sometimes and I know that the Big Mac cost more than a dollar, and that my hamburger was less than a dollar.

    #125806
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Phoenixvoice

    You’re so lucky. Your parents gave you an allowance. Mine were way more stingy, so no allowance for the kids in our house . . . but on the upside, the MacDonalds burger was only 19 cents.

    #125807
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Microchips in hands

    I don’t understand why it isn’t OBVIOUS that it is easy to duplicate the settings for some microchip embedded in a hand. Digital items and pure data is very, very easy to replicate, if you have the correct tools, and it is all available on a server out there connected to the internet and able to be hacked or compromised by the alphabet soup of federal agencies. My front door is more secure — secured by a mechanical code known to the residents of the home and able to be changed whenever we please. This code is not stored digitally and not written down — there is nothing to hack.

    #125808
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ dbs
    Lol, I suppose. My allowance ended at age 10, when I got to watch the younger 3 sibs when my parents went out, and was paid $1/hr. At age 12, I began watching other people’s kids for $2/hr, and my parents stopped paying me for babysitting services — however, I watched others’ kids before my own siblings, and I think that they then had my brother watch our sisters for $1/hr.
    It isn’t a complaint, my parents were wonderful when we were kids, and I remain close to them. It served me well that from age 10 on all of my spending money came to me through my own efforts.

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