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    Edward Hopper Office in a Small City 1953   • Blinken Concedes War Is Lost – Offers Ukrainian Demilitarization (Helmer) • Blinken Ponders The Pos
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle January 27 2023]

    #127335
    Germ
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    TVASF

    #127336
    Germ
    Participant

    Forced vaccinations.

    He has had Covid-19 and handled it like the average person and he now has natural immunity and natural antibodies, …”

    https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/tom/

    TVASF

    #127337
    Germ
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    Sudden death of Exeter dad, 36, leaves ‘massive void in people’s hearts’ ”

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/sudden-death-exeter-dad-36-8037354

    TVASF

    #127338
    Germ
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    “Family Shocked After Dad’s Sudden and Unexplained Death at 30″

    Family Shocked After Dad’s Sudden and Unexplained Death at 30: ‘We Need to Know Why He Collapsed’

    #127339
    Germ
    Participant

    TVASF

    #127340
    Germ
    Participant

    ” ‘Thoughtful and kind’ year one school teacher in Cumbria dies suddenly at age 26″

    “passionate about health and fitness and managed to hit her 10,000 steps goal for 600 days in a row.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/thoughtful-and-kind-year-one-school-teacher-in-cumbria-dies-suddenly-at-age-26/ar-AA16F1Zc

    TVASF

    #127341
    Germ
    Participant

    Fit and healthy Nelson man, 26, ‘full of love’ died after sudden chest pains at home

    https://www.lancs.live/news/lancashire-news/fit-healthy-nelson-man-26-25951410

    TVASF

    #127342
    Germ
    Participant

    This is London!

    <iframe class=”rumble” width=”480″ height=”270″ src=”https://rumble.com/embed/v24m7qs/?pub=4&#8243; frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I still can’t do it!

    TVASF

    #127343
    Germ
    Participant

    Scotland has just reported a further 277 Excess deaths, for Week 03 of 2023

    That is 19.5% above the new 5 year average. Or, 23% above the pre-pandemic average (2015-19)

    Already in 2023, we have 1,000 Excess deaths in just 3 weeks.

    https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/statistics-and-data/statistics/statistics-by-theme/vital-events/general-publications/weekly-and-monthly-data-on-births-and-deaths/deaths-involving-coronavirus-covid-19-in-scotland

    TVASF
    ☠️☠️☠️

    #127344
    Germ
    Participant
    #127345
    Germ
    Participant

    Horowitz: 12 new safety signals showing devastating dangers from COVID shots

    “We’ve reached a critical mass of data points and safety signals on the COVID shots from a full two years of it circulating in 5.5 billion people. One must be worse than a conspiracy theorist to ignore them. One now has to be a “coincidence theorist” to chalk up this degree of human suffering that is in immediate need of redress to mere coincidence”

    https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-12-new-safety-signals-showing-devastating-dangers-from-covid-shots-2659296939.html

    TVASF

    #127346

    Germ, something’s wrong with your code. When I copy it, it says “<iframe class= rumble width= 4803 height= 2703 src= https://rumble.com/embed/v24m7qs/?pub=4&#8243; frameborder= 03 allowfullscreen></iframe>

    #127347

    What you wanted is:

    #127348
    Germ
    Participant

    Thanks Raúl.

    Place your bets on 2023!

    TVASF

    #127349
    Red
    Participant

    “Can you smell what the year of the rabbit is cooking?”
    Hmm smells like stew, rabbit stew.

    Here’s what I’m seeing in iframe and don’t seem to be able to change it!
    <iframe class=”rumble” width=”640″ height=”360″ src=”https://rumble.com/embed/v24gyx6/?pub=ioogp&#8221; frameborder=”0″ allowfullscreen></iframe>

    #127350
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    We are coming up to the second anniversary of Oceania governments lying to the masses about their fake and toxic ‘vaccines’ and their false claims about masks. And governments are still lying about their fake and toxic ‘vaccines’, even if they have given up on their phony mask narratives for the moment.

    The first anniversary of the commencement of the endless stream of lives about Ukraine is approaching, though warmongering ‘newspapers’ like the Guardian were laying the groundwork for the stream of lies via a ‘Two Minutes of Hate’ campaign against Eurasia, which commenced around 15 months ago.

    Now that so many people are keeling over and dying from the death jabs and Oceania’s war against Eurasia is lost, we can either look forward to some treason trials commencing soon, or even more censorship and lying and tyranny from Big Brother and The Party members.

    My guess is that the latter is the more likely of the two.

    #127351
    Red
    Participant

    A former top FBI counterintelligence official who was involved in the Trump-Russia collusion investigation was arrested on charges of conspiring to violate U.S. sanctions on Russia, federal prosecutors announced Monday.

    Charles McGonigal, who had been the special agent in charge of the FBI’s counterintelligence division in New York, is accused of taking secret payments from Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska in exchange for investigating a rival oligarch, according to court documents.

    Mr. McGonigal, 54, is one of the highest-ranking FBI officials ever charged with a crime. He faces one count of violating U.S. sanctions, one count of money laundering and two conspiracy counts.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jan/23/fbi-official-trump-russia-probe-now-charged-illega/

    #127352
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    endless stream of lies about Ukraine

    #127353
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Reading (for the umpteenth time) “The Way of Chuang Tzu” by Thomas Merton and also (both together) The Mountain Poems of Stonehouse; translated by Red Pine.
    Both genuine treats for the those looking…

    #127354

    Red,

    You have the same quirk as Germ in the code. Here’s what I get when I copy it and put it in a text editor:

    <iframe class= rumble width= 6403 height= 3603 src= https://rumble.com/embed/v24gyx6/?pub=ioogp&#8221; frameborder= 03 allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I have no idea where that frameborder comes from.

    #127355

    Here’s what you wanted:

    #127356
    oxymoron
    Participant

    George Webb is spot on but how to catch out military guys. Easier for Veritas to get juice on the rubbish at Pfizer I would say and I am with Malone on the fact that exposing this crazy unethical business model can’t hurt. It’s just not where the real bad guys are. They are DARPA and Wellcome. As far as whitney Webb and Latypova are finding it is deep British with an arm up the arse of the US military.

    #127357
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    The Ukraine military leaders seem to have the same mindset as the WW1 generals. Losing large numbers of troops is an annoyance as they have to find more. If an attack proves deadly they are willing to do it again no matter the cost to the troops! They should be shot, literally!

    There can be no negotiated peace, and I hope Russia is not so naive as to not realise that. It would be treated in the same way as the Minsk Accord – an opportunity to re-arm Ukraine and train more troops. Russia’s only choice is to conquer the the whole of Ukraine. Parts will become Russian and the rump will still be Ukraine, although possibly as a protectorate.

    It would be useful if Russia could share a border with Hungary. It would give Hungary an option to join BRICS+. Part of Ukraine could be ceded to Hungary, but Poland must not gain any territory in Ukraine.

    From the Russian point of view it is difficult to see how the situation can be settled. The US may keep escalating so that nuclear war is the only option.

    #127359
    Dr. D
    Participant

    AudacityofNope
    https://sinfest.xyz/btphp/comics/2023-01-27.jpg
    Quite appropriate. It’s fine to have hope. But are YOU doing what you would do anyway? The actions you have access to in your life? If you’re doing that anyway, who cares if White/Black/Red/Q.

    Trump: we are a powerful nuclear power.”

    I hate to say it but this is how you talk to the American people. As gravitas, he’s not wrong either, and the message is delivered. We are. We don’t need to stop and leave out of weakness, so stop because it’s pointless instead.

    “We need to get to the bottom of Epstein.” Why now?

    “email PROVING he may have been SELLING Joe’s STOLEN classified information in Ukraine”

    And then to prevent it getting out he gave $150B to Ukraine, their money-laundering mafia. Sure. But Can you get anyone to report it?

    “ Blinken Concedes War Is Lost – Offers Ukrainian Demilitarization (Helmer)”

    How would they believe them? The West wants to call a peace the day they run out of bullets? Suuuure that’s not a trick. Speaking of, don’t fool around with the U.S. setting up adequate robotic arms manufacture. Although very difficult (imagine dropping one on the floor) we can do it and do it quickly. Quickly like inside of a year. Now that we are beginning to, if I were Russia, I wouldn’t/couldn’t stop because the window (of our pathetic strategy) is closing.

    “Blinken has also told the Washington Post to announce the US will respect “Putin’s tripwire for nuclear escalation”,

    You mean like how Abrams (and other) ammunition is a de-facto rolling dirty bomb? (that also poisons the tank crew) You ALREADY didn’t respect their tripwire by sending 30 of them. Speaking of, these guys love numerology, what was the specific number “31”? And I’m certain Ardern’s “Gas in the tank” comment was a code to someone but have no idea what it means. I hear it and it’s highlighted in yellow which happens sometimes. Gas? Tanks?

    “The Biden administration, convinced that Vladimir Putin has failed in his attempt to erase Ukraine, has begun planning for an eventual postwar military balance that will help Kyiv deter any repetition of Russia’s brutal invasion.”

    As above, it’s a Blinken press release, written and printed by him while the reporter was in the bathroom. So Russia has failed so much that we are wildly escalating with tanks and planes. That’s how you know we’re winning: Ukraine lost more territory and ran out of everything again, while Russia only uses Wagner and has 250,000 men untouched.

    “Russia’s colossal failure to achieve its military goals, Blinken believes, should now spur the United States”

    This is a variant of the Trump quote above, but he’s doing it wrong. Okay, U.S. rah-rah, great. Good start, good throw in. Then you lied about everything and promoted war in the second part of the sentence. That’s not going to go over in the U.S., even when it’s only instinctively.

    Russia should not be able to rest, regroup and reattack.”

    NPD projection. It gets more obvious every day.

    to give Ukraine the tools it needs to defend itself. Security will be ensured by potent weapons systems —“

    Like you did already and blew up in 30 days? Or with nuke-capable missiles 5 minutes from Moscow? I’m sure that’ll go over great.

    “The administration’s standard formula is that all decisions must ultimately be made by Ukraine,”

    Like when Ze surrendered then Boris told him not to? That kind of independence? Like the Yanukovich election? That kind of “Independence” and “Democracy”? And they’re joining the EU? “Fuck the EU” – Victoria Nuland, top official at this time, with her husband and entire crew. Yeah, I see how “Ukraine” is in charge.

    American Abrams Tanks Vulnerable Even to Soviet-era Weapons (TASS)”

    Pretty sure we saw that already many places, but including fresh new Abrams getting wrecked by illiterate hillbillies in Yemen. That’s AFTER you can’t move them (too heavy), can’t drive them (3 gallons per mile), can’t support them (no interoperable systems), and can’t repair them (they are extremely prone to breakage and are extremely difficult, dangerous, and technical to repair.)

    Best thing that could happen to Russia is the Abrams arrive and go into the field. It’ll be the only advertisement for Russian arms the world will need.

    Look: the Abrams had some original flaws, but at this point is outdated. It wasn’t a bad tank, although it isn’t the one I would have chosen. But when Soviet anti-tank cuts it like butter, you can’t just put them out there. So: all tanks are somewhat vulnerable as described here, but the article as I understand it is accurate.

    baffled to hear such a claim from the leader of the German Greens,”

    The Green/Progressives are the greatest mass-murdering war mongers alive today and are both for every war, but also every government and every billionaire insider. That is to say, Progressives are Fascists, just as Hitler was a PROGRESSIVE, a SOCIALIST, a New Age, infinite green future party. I don’t know how this is in dispute: read a book. National SOCIALIST, People’s WORKER’S Party. Which believed in New Age stories like the Golden Age of the Aryan race, like Shangra-la and Atlantis. That’s what a “Swastika” is, and why it was chosen. Not exactly the nails of Christ flag, is it?

    Trying to find anything on the sort of show “Beyep”, both the lockout, denial, and propaganda is like a 1,000-foot wall, unbreachable. I just wanted to know if Beyep was “Meet the Press” or “Jerry Springer.” Denied. Search terms missing, unknown. All Russians bad. All Titles unsearchable. You can tell you’re on the side of the good guys when you’re running 99 44/100th % lies. The good guys always use lies! That’s how you create peace and Justice. With lies.

    “France Denies the West Is at War with Russia (RT)”

    Well I’m glad to hear it but did you know Estonia gave 100% of their artillery to Kiev? Sounds great: now they’re entirely helpless. Good plan! Cue Estonian jokes, if there are any. Green Progressive said “We”. That wasn’t Germany, that was all of Europe she was talking about.

    “Just because the US, Germany and several other countries announced they would be supplying Ukraine with main battle tanks doesn’t mean NATO is at war with Moscow,”

    Huh. I thought the NATO charter specifically said that BECAUSE of the trigger mechanism, nations in NATO can’t just attack other nations and willy-nilly escalate their neighbors. As they Beyep said, “If you don’t approve, did you stand up and denounce them?” Take action to censure them? No. They sat silently and approved.

    “…[Ze] never solved the Donbass problem, he reneged on the Minsk Agreements, moreover, it turned out that he never planned to implement them, as he had been preparing for war,”

    Yes but that was also true of France, Germany, Poland, London, and the United States. Wouldn’t they also have to rule out talks with those nations? At least until their governments are radically altered?

    Speaking of: Credit card debt: skyrocket. Housing sales: collapse. Stock market: down by trillions. Rates: up 5x. Layoffs, starting now at 20k a pop. FTX down $60B+ and Crypto down $1T. Banks: collapsed in Switzerland and with BoA stealing client funds.

    Yet nothing. No bank runs, no market instability, no collapse. Dow high as ever. WWIII = Gold, not a dollar. That’s what happens when you have no free and accurate markets. No pricing. Goes to show all collapses, including/especially ‘08 and ‘01 must have been planned and voluntary, since we’re doing worse now on every metric and nothing. Gee could that be why they happen on the moon calendar every 7th year til now?

    “All this can shake up the system of power and lead to the President’s administration having much less influence over political processes.”

    What I was thinking. This might be cleaning house, purging, and I expect it is, but that disrupts everything and no one knows who they’re working with or reporting to. It self-heals but there’s a window of time where nobody can act.

    • Pfizer Director Physically Assaults James O’Keefe and Veritas Staff (GP)”

    Well that’s a good look. Pointed out that, since this “evolution” happens, then isn’t that de facto “Gain of Function”? Yes, it is. Wouldn’t you need permission for that? Uh-huh.

    Second, since they and presumably everyone is doing it, why didn’t the “Wuhan Lab” do it? In fact, why not the fact they spend all year doing it was the way that Covid was released? We already know they mailed these vials worldwide in a blizzard of biohazard.

    They say that’s a “Lab Leak” but wouldn’t that be how they/Pfizer had the vaccine and patent already? Because they did this? …Oh but it’s not “Bioweapons research” no no no. It’s just the exact same thing with different words.

    Reaction? Universal that Pfizer set up Veritas with this false executive. Uh, whuuuuut? What possible to-the-horizon conspiracy theory is this? Pfizer set up 50 young executives, gave them all web pages, credentials, had them log on Grindr, wait for O’Keefe, and then confirm to the public every bad suspicion they ever had? And do it on purpose??? Oh yes, genius plan. Totally plausible. I’m sure every Pfizer lawyer would sign off on it and approve.

    How is it in any way implausible that they test viruses on monkeys? They do. After the whole lab and process is there, somebody says, “Why are we doing this passively when we could do the tests actively?” And they do. Then 2-10 years later somebody says, “We have all these far more neato viruses in the bottle.” A lab higher up says, “Cool, send me a sample.” And Pfizer, being responsible, which is the goal of the whole thing, also makes a vaccine for each or has them at the ready. Is that not the most plausible thing in the world? It would be impossible for them NOT to do it or they wouldn’t be a “Lab.”

    Rubio: No one is arrested for illegal gain-of-function research. We ask questions, flap our gums and it all goes away. Doing this pattern since 1990 is how the Pfizer lab started “evolution” and got here.

    Who’s feeding their chickens bag feed? That’s not very economical. And needless to say, Tractor Supply is not the source for Tyson. But stopped altogether? That’s not a lack of something, that’s a drug/blocker that was added. We can already tell the higher plan was to run the small operators out of business. Fascism.

    “Mr. McGonigal, 54, is one of the highest-ranking FBI officials ever charged with a crime.”

    I said the other day. But why? Why now? They’ve never charged anyone inside of a crime before. Not even when they flew on Lolita Express 30+ times and failed to inform victims of his status as required by law. Lied to Congress. Surveilled Congress. Surveilled AP reporters. Never. “Then a miracle happened.”

    Paul Craig Roberts waxes on (USAWatchdog) about the “Irreality” of the U.S. attempting nuclear war against Russia. Something I say and warn all the time. They are psychotic, reality has become a dream to them. He also blames Putin for the Neocons encroaching on him. Uh, maybe you should look into that more. Before 2020 they did not have anything like adequate arms and S-400 batteries. Probably more of like whatever cooked the Cook. He’s essentially saying Putin should have declared war and put his foot down in 1990. Or 2000. Or 2014. THEY DIDN’T HAVE THE ARMS. Duh. I don’t blame the victim either. If this battered wife had to bide her time before sneaking purchase of a gun, that’s a plan, not a failure. Blame the abuser.

    Now you see what happened. NATO more or less immediately escalated. They attacked Russia directly, several times, and on nuclear bases, several times. The flagship. Crimea, many times. So Russia “should have” done U.S. doctrine and Schwarpkopf’ed the place? NO. NATO and Europe would have got alarmed and mobilized, you fool, and got public support. You don’t do what your enemy wants and plans. You do something else. So Russia has ground out all of Ukraine army, all their hidden equipment, several massive underground bases, half of Eastern Europe, and given time for normal Euros to say “F the war.”

    By doing this and harboring all their army — the whole thing as only Donbas and Wagners were fighting — they have the entire Russian army ready for the planned NATO attack. And they’re fighting a nation almost entirely LACKING an army now, while 30 tanks make zero difference.

    PCR, really? You’re supposed to be a smart guy. It may not be the best plan, there are probably better in hindsight, but I would have chosen the same thing. The boost in moral appearances is unparalleled, and the whole Global South and Saudi have signed on, indicating their highly-paid, inside CIA connections feel the U.S. power will/has collapse. They’d never risk it otherwise.

    #127360
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • Blinken Concedes War Is Lost – Offers Ukrainian Demilitarization (Helmer)

    The Empire of Lies Fucktards actually believe that they are ‘agreement capable’!

    Hahahaha

    Once a Tard’ always a Tard’

    Doug MacGreagor already laid it out for you.

    Russia will have to take the WHOLE enchilada for peace to poke it’s face above the parapets.

    Ya, like really fur sure like!

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    #127362
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    (random bot distra0t0i8e8o8n)

    What I got from the Veritas Pfizer revelation is: planned obsolescence.

    Planned Obsolesce had already become the basis of the global economy by 1960.

    That makes much more sense to me than the parasite class wanting to cull the population. (Oh, I’m all for culling. Y’all are nice enough, at times at least, but I don’t want 8 billion of us wacko monkeys running around the planet thinking they’re in control. But since few of us opt to reduce the population individually, culling will be imposed upon us by nature, by miscreants, by last week’s last chance losing lottery ticket.)

    Planned Obsolescence as the primary motivator behind the scamdemic makes much more sense to me than TPTB (The Parasites That Be) deciding to kill off the very creatures on whom their position as apex p[arasites depends.

    It also fits Occam’s Razor more neatly than the culling model. Planned Obsolescence is universally accepted to the point where people can’t imagine, say, buying a house and keeping it their entire life, much less a car or reasonably healthy body or naturally assigned gender. People hardly notice any more.

    But people notice when too many people are dying; and if the dying is shown to be caused by TPTB, TPTB usually fall from power, often into a grave.

    ***

    And yes, of course animals must suffer for humanity to achieve utopia. How could it be otherwise? It Is Written? Many speak contemptuously of TPTB as leaders/members of a Kill Cult. Almost every human being alive is a member of that kill cult, and that kill cult rose to power by killing life for us to consume or, if the life is human, just plain killing it if we can’t “consume” it via slavery.

    An entire civilization, based on consumer dependence on goods deliberately designed to last no longer than the sales cycle allows, is doomed to oblivion by obsolescence.

    Earth Without Man

    ***

    PCRoberts is a decent/smart enough chap but he was dumb enough to work for the Beltway, so one naturally is wary of his comprehension of reality.

    ***

    “So Russia has ground out all of Ukraine army, all their hidden equipment, several massive underground bases, half of Eastern Europe, and given time for normal Euros to say “F the war.””

    I thought that was the plan all along: massive UKE/NATO losses; minimal Russian losses.

    ***

    P.S. Can anyone tell me what ‘Beyep’ is? Also, why does an intelligent and informed guy like Dr. D regularly write hyperbolic nonsense like “The Green/Progressives are the greatest mass-murdering war mongers alive today and are both for every war, but also every government and every billionaire insider.” It reminds me of Trump (insert Person or Thing designated Bad of choice)Derangement Syndrome.

    #127363
    Dimitri
    Participant

    Dr D is right about Greens/progressives because he is intelligent and well informed.

    #127364
    Oroboros
    Participant

    • American Abrams Tanks Vulnerable Even To Soviet-era Weapons

    Like all Empire of Lies® ‘weapons (cough, gag, cough) systems the Abrams is an over designed, over thought concept, Built for Profit not Performance

    Against third world armies it does the job, against equals or betters, it will have it’s clock cleaned.

    It very fast, but it can’t take a punch from a Russian T-80 much less a T-90

    The Abrams main engine is the Honeywell agt1500.

    Essentially it is a modified helicopter engine, adapted for use on tanks.

    Hahahaha!

    Why does the Abrams have a jet engine?

    Once again, Built for Profit not Performance

    Try fixing this Mother in Ukraine, it will need to be dragged all the way back to Poland for all repairs

    #127366
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Morgenthau Plan

    An opportunity missed but finally circled around to fruition in 2023

    “So, yes, Germany must die, which she will, while the US will try (they think they can) to reap the “benefits” of such situation.

    But then again, let’s not forget the Morgenthau Plan for Germany after 1945 for Germans “to tend the beet fields”.

    [Hahahaha!]

    Germans as a nation are finally ripe for this and this should, pretty much, bury all those myths about German industrial and engineering prowess, which since long ago is primarily a myth. ”

    The German Green Future

    I love beets Edeltrude!

    Pass the hoe!

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    #127367
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I was just shocked by it, being a Green myself, and I want other people to be shocked. Besides, the German Green Party is the most powerful, preeminent Green party in the world. And we JUST watched the Green Minister be the one who declares and approves and authorizes WWIII in public. What do you want me to say?

    That’s likewise true but less so of the very-far Left here, card-carrying Democratic Socialists, core interest Green New Deal like AOC, totally in favor of the war, supporting all votes, supporting all candidates like Milley, Blinken, and Biden, Pelosi, all from Day 1 in Feb, 2021 and long before. FOR $150B while her own district is homeless w/o health care, AGAINST all peace talk, which is coming (barely) from Rand Paul, etc., ironically on the RIGHT. And completely locking out, calling racist, the whole remaining Anti-War Left like Jimmy Dore. What can I say?

    The mass-murdering I fret on agonizingly until I’m sure you’re all exhausted with it. The Left/Green want to AND IN FACT HAVE, shut off all food, all power, and all heat to all humanity. All farms. All trucks. All roads. They approve of all oppression to accomplish it AGAINST the democratic will and by robbing poor and working people. Their Green action will, and right now IS in the process of killing, hard to tell, 10% of the 700M people under their control? 70M at a go, and to continue forever?

    What can I say? If they don’t want to be called mass murderers, don’t actively mass murder people. They were also top 1% of people promoting vaccines and mandates, shutting down all discussion using a direct merger of Pfizer and government. Still defended tireless to this minute.

    Are you refuting any of these elements? It’s sad, that’s why I quote on Jimmy Dore, the people’s party, Greenwald, and the 5 actual free speech anti-war Leftists remaining. Because, as my political test, that’s where I came from: the Left. Anarchy even, as did the Fathers, actually. They THINK they’re still in the same place, in the moral right, in the Green, but they trotted off to the horizon as Socialists generally do. “Progress” means action. You have to keep moving, always more. Once schools are integrated and you have a Black President, what’s next? Your whole world, your purpose for being collapses. Better to say things are worse than 1939, more deadly, more racist, more desperate, more oppressive, even when they’re not, than to give up ego and fall into nothing.

    I say every day, “Please don’t do these things. They are not Left/Progressive/Ecological, Human-loving openness, diversity caring actions you are taking.” They are the #Opposite. You might not have noticed, but the rest of us did. You can check it for yourself. What part am I missing here when the Green Party enthusiastically declared WWIII? Not in theory but on the floor of parliament? Not someday, but yesterday. Not as a theory but during a war? As part of a long, unwavering support of the same things going back to 1990?

    The Abrams engine was a decision because it’s so, far too heavy. To move a 50-ton behemoth (by choosing armor) the only way without the engine being the size of the whole tank is a turbine. Power/weight. Which they had around, gives a lot of internal room, and is indeed very fast. I would never, ever do it though for all the reasons given. Too much gas, that fuel is jet fuel, too complicated, repairs, everything. But that’s why. I would definitely attempt it as a prototype but it just doesn’t work out.

    #127368
    jb-hb
    Participant

    My favorite Civil War generals are Longstreet and Rosecrans.

    Longstreet, because he realized how costly accepted war-making practices were and figured out you were much better off doing strategic attacks coupled with tactical defense. Show up somewhere compellingly annoying to the enemy. Dig in and wait for him to come, which you know he has to. (and what’s been happening in Ukraine?)

    Rosecrans even more so. Longstreet had a good idea for keeping your own casualties to a minimum while maximizing those on the other side. Rosecrans, with his fussy maneuvering, had discovered how to attain victories without massive casualties on EITHER side. I cannot, off the top of my head, think of a specifically non-butcher general who ALSO could make things happen that wasn’t Rosecrans.

    I don’t see Grant as a psychopathic butcher. For years, he’d watched the eastern Union armies go back and forth, retreating back with each costly setback. He had reasoned out that whatever the cost was to just keep pushing on, it would be lower than any other option, certainly lower than darting into and out of Virginia endlessly. Make a war intense and quick to be merciful, rather than dragging on.

    And we can see that lessons like that informed the US military for many years to come. The Entente in WW1 thought the US troops would show up and be humiliated due to inexperience. Instead, they were shown, for the first time in the war, infantry acting AS infantry pushing the Germans off a valuable hill position. Something the Entente wasted millions of soldiers TRYING to do on hills all over the battlefield for years. You might say the 5/3 Entente/Central Powers western front casualty ratio was because the Germans learned from the US Civil War lessons and the Entente didn’t.

    When I try to understand the Ukraine conflict, of all the military history books on my bookshelves, I find the ones about the WW2 eastern front to be least useful. For one thing, the annoying Romanization-kievization of place names makes surveying new action on familiar battlefields incredibly annoying. And basically every expectation you can draw from them is apparently wrong for the current conflict. (aside from understanding for instance weather, terrain, stuff that never changes)

    The MOST valuable book on my bookshelf, for understanding the Ukraine war, is The Myth of the Great War: A New Military History of World War by John Mosier.

    “Real” historians dislike Mosier and his book. Modern, cutting-edge history is supposed to be super scientific and factual. Mosier covers history in a way Will Durant, Gibbons, Peter Green, Thucydides, or Polybius would recognize. “We” disapprove of that stuff now. Plus, he isn’t a legitimate academic but presumes to write books on history! How dare you.

    His understanding of literally, physically how the war was really fought cuts to the heart of the matter AND gives insight into the current conflict.

    His insight and vicious invective into the Entente distributing coolaid propaganda for the war effort, but then drinking their own coolaid (guzzling it down by the gallon), so that they never understood what was happening while callously throwing young men into a meat grinder is on the level of the good old-style historians. He passes moral judgment on everything from tactics to strategy to political policy. It’s “wrong” in a history book and it’s kind of awesome. Anyway, just my 2 cents if anyone happens to be looking for Ukraine-relevant reading material.

    #127369
    zerosum
    Participant

    The WEST/NATO/USA is re-defining peace talks, negotiated peace,
    “WAR”, “PEACE”, “WINNING”, “LOSING”, ” A Cease Fire”

    (A cease fire in Ukraine – no more bullets or no more trained fighters)
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    • What Spurred Wave Of Resignations Among Senior Ukraine Officials? (Lavrenin)

    Key words:
    corruption, scandals, foreign benefactors, finance
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    Thank you for finding those wonderful pictures
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    How to prevent/hide/minimize the search engines from compiling hiding the truth/lie – change the name/spelling/use a synonym

    C•19 Vaccines Are Causing Debilitating Illnesses

    Sudden and Unexplained Death
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    #127370
    John Day
    Participant

    Thank You everybody who further commented last night, especally Polemos waxing philosophical in section 100 – 199: Philosophy and Psychology.

    Boscohorowitz won’t be put in a Hollywood-Squares “box” (“Ill choose Betty White!”), and disdains “political ideology”. Actually, this is not a political ideology “test”. It just reveals attitudes towards other humans and hierarchy, Left-Right and Libertarian-Authoritarian.
    Many of us might presume Boscohorowitz to be the most Left yet, but is he really more Libertarian than Dr. D?
    Would he kill Nagarjuna in a bar-fight, or just break a chair over his back, like on Gunsmoke?

    #127371
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Reading (for the umpteenth time) “The Way of Chuang Tzu” by Thomas Merton and also (both together) The Mountain Poems of Stonehouse; translated by Red Pine.
    Both genuine treats for the those looking…

    I strongly second that recommendation. Those two books and Meditations, I keep at my bedside.

    And it’s weird you mention them. I’ve been thinking about the analogies from Chuang Tzu – useless tree, useless ground, etc and the apparent move by Masters of the Universe to eliminate the “useless.” And I’d bookmarked a passage a couple days ago that I planned to post excerpts from today. So here goes:

    The Way of Chuang Tzu LEAVING THINGS ALONE:

    I know about letting the world alone, not interfering. I do not know about running things. Letting things alone: so that men will not blow their nature out of shape! Not interfering, so that men will not be changed into something they are not!

    When men do not get twisted and maimed beyond recognition, when they are allowed to live-the purpose of government is achieved.

    [various references to unrestrained self indulgence, including righteousness…]

    Now the whole world is not enough reward for the “good,” nor enough punishment for the “wicked.” Since now the world itself is not big enough for reward or punishment. From the time of the Three Dynasties men have been running in all directions. How can they find time to be human?

    When the delight is over, they still will not let go of it: they surround its memory with ritual worship, they fall on their knees to talk about it, play music and sing, fast and discipline themselves in honor of the eight delights. When the delights become a religion, how can you control them? The wise man, then, when he must govern, knows how to do nothing. Letting things alone, he rests in his original
    nature. He who will govern will respect the governed no more than he respects himself. If he loves his own person enough to let it rest in its original truth, he will govern others without hurting them. Let him keep the deep drives in his own guts from going into action. Let him keep still, not looking, not hearing. Let him sit like a corpse, with the dragon power alive all around him. In complete silence, his voice will be like thunder. His movements will be invisible, like those of a spirit, but the powers of heaven will go with them. Unconcerned, doing nothing, he will see all things grow ripe around him. Where will he find time to govern?

    #127372
    John Day
    Participant

    “Producer’s Pride” chicken feed makes hens stop laying, and they would rather not eat it, when given the option; since last September. Coincidence…

    I’ve got to get to work on the Jordan Trishton Walker MD, Pfizer exec blabbermouth story this morning. Breaking fast. Apparently all checking-out, though Google has scrubbed him from searches.

    #127373
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    All governments are Tyrants. That’s the whole idea. Government is, by its very definition, the fact of some people (bosses) telling other people (citizens) what they can or cannot do. If the bosses can enforce the rules then the rules will be enforced. Them’s the rules.

    For examples: you can’t rob banks, kill your neighbor, or evade taxes.

    For more examples: you can’t tell the truth, refuse the vax, or vote for Trump.

    We are, and by our own choice we shall always be, ruled over by a whole host of tyrants. Some will rule by our willing choice, and some will rule against our will by brute force.

    That’s pretty bad, alright . . . . being ruled over by a host of tyrants . . . . but there is something a whole lot worse than being bossed around by a bunch of bullies.

    What’s worse than being ruled over by a host of tyrants?

    Answer: being ruled over by ONE tyrant.

    #127374
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    Humanity is a death cult, period.

    Do you know any other creature that ceremonially kills other creatures, even members of its own species, even its own children, only to propitiate ‘the gods’?

    An irony about the Holocaust is that Jews established that word/concept in the modern lexicon from their own ancient practices.

    ***

    As for Greens/Progressives/biggest war-mongers: it’s always blame the opposition. Any political faction that achieves dominance becomes the biggest war party. Any party that votes against the majority party’s wars does so only so it can become the majority party and run those wars or new wars of its own as it chooses. The territory stays the same, but the map/labels differ just enough so that things can stay the same. I’ve quoted this before but feel it bears repetition:

    “The whole modern world has divided itself into Conservatives and Progressives. The business of Progressives is to go on making mistakes. The business of Conservatives is to prevent mistakes from being corrected. Even when the revolutionist might himself repent of his revolution, the traditionalist is already defending it as part of his tradition. Thus we have two great types — the advanced person who rushes us into ruin, and the retrospective person who admires the ruins. He admires them especially by moonlight, not to say moonshine. Each new blunder of the progressive or prig becomes instantly a legend of immemorial antiquity for the snob. This is called the balance, or mutual check, in our Constitution.”

    ― G.K. Chesterton

    For example, the Founding Fathers. A buncha crazy-ass rich white-boys who felt that owning slaves wasn’t enough, so they fought wars to have it all: against the Brits, the Indians, those lousy French Canucks — those fucking Canadians. 😉 The FFathers were such great promoters of egalitarian liberty and equality of opportunity that they shut down the Whiskey Rebellion lest them uppity hillbillies (mountain goats) give the flatlanders (often called sheeple) weird ideas about being able to keep all the money they earned.

    I wouldn’t piss on any of those textbook charlatans, but they’re enshrined in my culture like NKorea promotes its leader/god mythology about this guy with the doofus haircut:

    Tres Maoesque, yes?

    25-15 years ago, it was (so-called) conservatives who were the progressives who never met a war or a scam they didn’t like. We called them neocons. Now it’s the liberals. We call them neolibs. Neither party even remotely follows what its label defines. The conservatives are as liberal as the liberals et vice-versa.

    btw, we actually had a Progressive Faction once:

    Progressive Party (United States, 1912)

    Now it’s just a dumb name to call one’s perceived/chosen opposition, just as calling someone, say, a ‘reactionary’ is just a dumb name to call one’s perceived/chosen opposition. As for cheesy terms like libtard/woketard and such, I’ll leave them to the capable AI skills of the likes of citizenx

    The Green Party isn’t green, the progressives aren’t progressive, the conservatives aren’t conservative, the (soon-to-be-announced) God, Guns & Religion party will be about gods, guns, and religion only nominally or where a buck/vote can be squeezed from gullible victims (currently in abundant supply, but TVASF; therefore soon we’ll have to tolerate less of those annoyingly gullible victims).

    If one says bad things about humanity’s impact on the environment, one is at risk of being ‘anti-human’. We’re not supposed to diss on Team Human. But if we speak contemptuously of named subgroups of humanity — those dirty Krauts, those fuckwad wokesters, those dumbass ‘right wing nut ‘murcans — one can find a group of humans who will echo and support your opinions on those outside the affinity group.

    FLung poo always dominates public discourse.

    Not Safe For Anywhere

    Didn’t have a zillion recordings of defecation when I was a kid.

    ***

    I concur with Curtis Yarwin: monarchy is the best governance we can handle. Only a monarch can in any significant way follow what Lao Tzu called ‘the Mandate of Heaven’ (which translates into ‘leave shit the fuck alone until the blood gets up to your ankles or you’ll just make it worse). [For my money, Lao Tzu is the Original Conservative.]

    A monarch is so central in its power that it can easily be overwhelmed by political nonsense. It’s hard for a monarch to mess things up too much. That requires committees. That requires a ‘balance of power’ to provide a sweet rocking chair by which ruling cabals can run wild for centuries not just decades like Stalin or Mao.

    Trump, imo, was unwittingly uberconservative not per his ideology or actions but by his inability to do much at all because of being a lone wolf outsider and being a late-stage lunatic entering his cognitive twilight years. He was in effect an isolated monarch. If I follow my own logic properly, one thing I’m implying is that someone like Trump is literally the best our system can do. De facto incompetence by authority has become better than competent authority, cuz all authority knows to do is things we’d rather they wouldn’t.

    #127375
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    “I wouldn’t piss on any of those textbook charlatans,”

    Confusing expression. Comes from ‘I wouldn’t bother pissing on X even if X were on fire.’

    #127376
    boscohorowitz
    Participant

    I love how jb-hb opens up his head and shows you all this neat stuff he’s learned and thought about (in this case, Civil War). Autodidacts are my fave scholars.

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