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    Roy Lichtenstein Woman in Bath 1963   • Spike Protein Is Still Circulating 5 Months From Vaccination (VT) • Early Vaccinees Are Twice As Likely T
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle July 27 2021]

    #81066
    oxymoron
    Participant

    From yesterday – Dr D Rich. I wish you well – looks like we all may have a few years of hardship and tough decisions even if they are easy to make.
    Madamski – yes I wondered if you were Bosco.
    Everyone else – we will need to dodge and duck and weave and face full frontally but what ever happens or comes your way – you all have my blessings and gratitude.
    This is not a test.

    #81068
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Roy Lichtenstein Woman in Bath 1963

    Bernays would love that Lichtenstein; I don’t.
    It could sell anything from Chevrolets to lipstick…

    Yesterday was not fun here; quite the opposite…
    …but, it did show TAE’s tolerance of poster’s comments…
    A double edged sword if ever there was one…
    The upside is freedom of expression…regardless of price…
    The downside is the tyranny of some of the commenters…
    …for me? I’ll just watch it play out and hope TAE survives the crazies…

    #81069
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Life, that lethal STD…
    Regardless of what you do (ivermectin, vaccines, masks, science, progress, religion), living is hazardous to your health; looking at a newborn child, every mother should ponder this.

    Stick & Carrot = Fear & Hope
    Many are keen on the idea that we humans are a pretty sophisticated bunch – we aren’t, unless we escape from the slumber and disentangle ourselves from the dreams of hope and fear.

    #81071
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    @TAE Summary from yesterday, thanks for the two different narratives, very useful. I had thought to do something similar but you saved me the bother (and probably better). The one minor change I would make would be to the very last line:

    “ – The Covid 19 response is all about money, power and control” and depopulation.

    My contribution to any summary you might produce today would be on my takeaway from the Vanden Bossche piece:

    Get vaxxed? Doomed if you do and doomed if you don’t.

    #81075
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @polder: “Get vaxxed? Doomed if you do and doomed if you don’t.”

    That’s funny. Also sadly true.

    I found many of yesterday’s comments interesting. Madam/Bosco is allowed to be whomever he/she wishes. No biggie. If you don’t like someone’s comments, don’t read them. We have a choice.

    John Day’s description of keys and key rings was bone chilling. Also very well done and undoubtedly true, at least for the time being. This synthetic bio mess will blow up at some point in the future because the human body can’t take it. How soon? Anyone’s guess. The result? Not good.

    Veracious: Thank you for the suggestions. I’ve done a lot of self reflection during my life, yes it’s painful, but I haven’t spent much time thinking about ego’s role. Worthy of exploration.

    ctbarnum: good to see you back more! 🙂 Also great to hear you’re able to receive health services without a vaccination, and good comeback on the doctor stating the “technology has been around for 20 years”. Way to shut someone up. lol

    #81076
    Oroboros
    Participant

    As an evolutionary biologist Bret Weinstein really needs to hook up with Dr Richard Fleming.

    Bret has had Geert Vanden Bossche on his show and understands the issues he brought up.

    But Dr Fleming’s discoveries would leave him speechless.

    RNA leaked outside the cell functions like a Prion.

    Prion contamination by the mRNA ‘vaccines’ in large swths of the global population is a long term Armageddon.

    The medical costs would be budget busting staggering.

    #81077
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Kunstler, Denninger and even the level-heads like VDB are starting to get emotion in their voices and this I like. I think behind these computers and at our work and play we have spent quite some time looking from afar and offering insights and analysis – but shit is getting so up-close and personal so fast.

    With regards to the commentariat ‘vibes’ – I am of the opinion that it is all good but my preference (and I know it is not all about me but we are a collective and as such we listen to each other) – my preference is to see it as a bit like the talking stick. We all get a turn and there are no rules as such (Unless Raul says) but you kinda know when you are hanging on to the stick too long – which is also okay- but try to do it when you need to do it. It just works well like that. Rants are good too.
    If there are voluminous rants and chat room style things we loose something I think. There has been some incredible information sharing and sharing of perspectives and on the ground news stuff. I really need that and want that so I vote for focused cool thoughts.

    Locally my state Premier – Dan Andrews said on the telly tonight that the only way out of more lockdowns was to beat the virus and the only way to beat the virus was for absolutely everybody to get injected with an experimental gene ‘therapy’. Where do I go?
    Me and the cops are not real good friends. I beat them in court – long story – high stakes (like jail and stuff, wrongfully arrested etc. long hard expensive)

    #81078
    WES
    Participant

    Dr. D. RICH:

    I would like to try and give you a big picture view of what is happening to you regarding the vaccine mandate.

    Yesterday NYC major declared all city employees have to get vaccinated. Then a short time later Biden announced all veterans employees have to get vaccinated. Then California’s governor announced all state employees must get vaccinated. These 3 events were not random. They were carefully co-ordinated!

    Why? Remember a few days ago the CDC instructed all labs to switch to a test that can differentiate between covid and the flu, that mysteriously disappeared?

    The powers-to-be know, with the switch to a new test, that the number of covid cases will fall sharply!

    They are planning to tell everyone that the number of covid cases is falling due to the increasing number of people getting vaccinated!

    In effect they are doubling down on getting everyone vaccinated! You are unfortunately amoung the people that they can directly coerce!

    Notice that Biden didn’t say any other government employees, like the DofJ or FBI have to getvaccinated! I wonder why?

    #81080
    John Day
    Participant

    @Voracious Poet: I’m glad you got resurrected in this life and are going for broke in overtime, Brother.
    Bring it! What’cha got to lose? Thank You… 🙂

    #81081
    John Day
    Participant

    @Madamski-boscohorowitz: What if we call you “Robin”, your name?

    I do think we are “all friends here”, but we don’t all agree and we all have some buttons to push, and it’s work, but we seem to be doing the damned work, even when we feel the strain, and we seem to feel the strain together… That is some kind of “reality-check”.

    #81082
    WES
    Participant

    Oroboros:

    I think the best way to deal with idiots like dan andrews is to just ignore him! Just because he is priemer of the state of Victoria, doesn’t prevent him from being an idiot! Probably a corrupt idiot at that!

    #81083
    John Day
    Participant

    The most important piece of information presented today is that spike-protein was still circulating in 6 of 6 subjects tested 5 months after “stabilized” mRNA “vaccination” with Pfizer or Moderna products.

    This means that the genetic message in whatever cells are impregnated by the injected incubus continues to make the cells produce Spike-Protein on and on and on and on…
    mRNA in nature has a very short life, measured in minutes.

    If this is, in fact, the case, then it explains a LOT.
    Why do people keep having heart attacks and strokes months after “vaccination”. PING!

    Why do so many mRNA “vaccinated” people test positive for spike protein in their noses? PING!
    (Rapid antigen tests detect spike protein in the nose, which we all assumed meant active infection in the nose.)

    Is this THE FEATURE? It has been postulated that the pandemic was to make everybody get The-Shot, and that The-Shot was the bioweapon.
    I have openly speculated about what might be the reason for desiring everybody to have spike-protein in their blood, by infection or “vaccination”.
    That was before the official punchline became “Vaccine-no-matter-what-then-boosters-forever”.

    My keyring analogy from yesterday is not only apt and chilling, this answers the final dangling question.
    (Rod Serling would be on this blog if he were still alive, by the way.)

    “I want to say this in a Rod Serling voice: Picture a world where viruses can be designed with biomolecular modeling computers to precisely fit like keys into locks, the pieces of a human cell membrane which cross the whole membrane. Attached to the keychain holding the first key is a second key, which then unlocks a second membrane protein, causing the transmembrane protein complex to flip the keyring from outside to inside the cell.

    Picture several more keys on that ring, designed to mate-into and turn again and again and again, the little machines that make proteins and RNA, and with each turn, a part of that same keyring is produced, and with another set of turns, new keyrings are assembled for export.

    Picture that there is room on the ring for another key or two, and you are imaginative, what functionalities would you like to add?
    Would you like to make some part of the cell or animal work better?
    It’s so much easier to make it work worse…”

    #81084
    Germ
    Participant

    “Our Bayesian reanalysis of all six available remdesivir publications provides a more detailed and complete picture of the current state of evidence than is currently available, suggesting that remdesivir has little to no effect against COVID-19.”

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0255093

    #81086
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @oxy: ” … but shit is getting so up-close and personal so fast.”

    This is an astute observation. I remember reading many times over the past decade++ that the collapse is already happening (yes, we all know that) BUT … many of us live at a good distance from the collapsing edges and don’t experience it directly so are watching from afar. But as time goes on and the edges decay inward, it gets closer and closer, engulfing more and more segments of the population. That we’ll get to feel it first-hand when it reaches us.

    And here we are, with an exponential acceleration in the past 18 months. Are we having fun yet?

    #81087
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    I think your idea that the vaccine may be the bio-weapon is likely correct. That explains why Biden is doubling down on vaccinating everyone. For now coercion, but later by force?

    #81088
    WES
    Participant

    Germ:

    Sadly, remdesivir only purpose was to separate the dying from their money before death!

    #81089
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    @ John Day

    Robin is my functional name. (I recall some folks here mistook me for a woman because of that.)

    Establishing terms: the word ‘friend’ to me is a term of love albeit platonic, agape, whatever. Robin-bosco-madamski offers this gauge of explanation: to like is to approve, to love is to accept. (There is a butt-load of unacceptance around here, beginning with difficulty accepting personal truth despite a willingness to face unpleasant political facts.) So, if by ‘friend’ you mean ‘like’, then we have competing cliques, affiliation networks, centered around mutual approval of some of us according to mutually approved beliefs. One is either in or out, or staying out of it altogether, or straddling the fence.

    There are many people here whom I dislike and dislike me. Popularity ratings, more or less, based on individual likes/dislikes, even loves/hates. Either way, this stuff doesn’t amount to much.

    There is no one here that I hate. There are a few here that I actively love, yourself being one of them. There are others that I ‘passively’ love, which is to say that I don’t hate them despite them being very unlikable to me. I try, with much pathetic failure, to love everyone who posts here. But I pay little attention to my like or dislike of whomever, because those checques typically evaporate before they can be cashed. Passing mood swings based on ego-driven, mostly fear-based, impressions.

    Those are the terms by which I say that, imo, we are hardly all friends here any more than we were hardly all friends with our fellow classmates in grammar/high school and beyond.

    In the end, “we” here are just so many pieces of text.

    btw, why do I love you? Because I see you project yourself positively into others every day. You make yourself available. Where your tires meet the tarmac, you earnestly engage with best wishes aforethought, and how can I not love that?

    Friends

    #81091
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Re: saline vaccines. I don’t believe for a minute that anyone close to the levers of power received a covid vaccine. Period. They know better.

    It’s possible, and even likely, there are different versions of the vaccines being injected, hence the tracking of lot numbers for each person to evaluate results. It’s possible some vaxx were saline, but I think it’s more likely some were “regular” flu vaccines so people would get some symptoms from the shot, thus keeping the side effects narrative relatively stable.

    #81092
    zerosum
    Participant

    Fact checking

    Are there link to the contracts
    Pfizer Purchase Agreement
    ———-

    My search found the following info
    You can contact NPR pharmaceuticals correspondent Sydney Lupkin at slupkin@npr.org.

    COVID-19 VACCINE CONTRACT ACCOUNTABILITY
    Pfizer’s Coronavirus Vaccine Supply Contract Excludes Many Taxpayer Protections
    November 24, 2020
    4:46 PM ET

    When the Department of Health and Human Services released Pfizer’s $1.95 billion coronavirus vaccine contract with Operation Warp Speed last Wednesday, the agreement revealed that the Trump administration didn’t include government rights to intellectual property typically found in federal contracts.

    The drugmaker has downplayed its involvement in Operation Warp Speed, the Trump administration’s more than $10 billion program to make a coronavirus vaccine available in record time. Although Pfizer didn’t receive government funding this spring toward research and development of the vaccine, it nevertheless received one of the largest Operation Warp Speed supply contracts to date on July 21.

    Pfizer is working on the vaccine with BioNTech, a German company. They announced results of final efficacy analysis last Wednesday, revealing that the vaccine is 95% effective. The company announced that it submitted its request for emergency use authorization on Friday.

    That nearly $2 billion contract will pay for 100 million doses of the Pfizer vaccine at a price of $19.50 per dose if the vaccine is OK’d by the Food and Drug Administration. The government also has the option to buy up to 500 million more doses. The other Operation Warp Speed agreements pay for vaccines regardless of FDA approval or authorization.
    ————
    If you are interested, in more details, look at how the contract was written with Israel.
    The benefits and protections are favorable for Pfizer.

    govextra.gov.il/media/30806/11221-moh-pfizer-collaboration-agreement-redacted.pdf

    (I would include “quotes” but I’m not permitted to “cut and paste”)
    ——
    Here is an opinion of that contract.

    http://www.npr.org/2021/01/31/960819083/vaccines-for-data-israels-pfizer-deal-drives-quick-rollout-and-privacy-worries

    Vaccines For Data: Israel’s Pfizer Deal Drives Quick Rollout — And Privacy Worries
    January 31, 2021
    Daniel Estrin

    Israel paid a premium, locked in an early supply of Pfizer-BioNTech vaccines and struck a unique deal: vaccines for data.

    The nation of some 9 million promised Pfizer a swift vaccine rollout, along with data from Israel’s centralized trove of medical statistics to study “whether herd immunity is achieved after reaching a certain percentage of vaccination coverage in Israel,” according to their agreement.

    “We said to Pfizer … that the moment they give us the vaccine, we’ll be able to vaccinate at the speed they’ve never heard of,” Israel’s health minister Yuli Edelstein tells NPR.

    Israel’s small size and technologically advanced public health system offer an attractive model for Pfizer to demonstrate the impact of the vaccine on an entire population. Pfizer has not signed a similar agreement with any other country, company spokesperson Jerica Pitts says.

    The vaccines-for-data trade-off has sparked impassioned debate in Israel among data privacy experts, biotech researchers and the country’s own medical ethics board, weighing the potential benefits of mining the population for vaccine insights against the potential abuse of millions of personal medical records.
    ——-
    I could not find the contract with Canada. Lots of second hand reporting by news media but no documents.
    Here is what Canada has to say. ( I could not find the contracts)
    http://www.canada.ca/en/public-services-procurement/services/procuring-vaccines-covid19.html
    COVID-19 vaccine agreements
    On behalf of PHAC, and based on advice from the COVID-19 Vaccine Task Force, PSPC is leading negotiations and finalizing agreements with suppliers of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.

    The Government of Canada has committed over $9 billion to procure vaccines and therapeutics and to provide international support. PHAC is responsible for managing this funding as the client department. A majority of that amount has been allocated for the up to 409 million doses of vaccines and vaccine candidates secured for everyone in Canada.

    All vaccine candidates will require Health Canada authorization prior to being used to vaccinate anyone in Canada.

    ———–
    Canada makes it difficult to find out information from its site.

    http://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/covid19-industry/drugs-vaccines-treatments/interim-order-import-sale-advertising-drugs/note.html

    Interim Order Respecting the Importation, Sale and Advertising of Drugs for Use in Relation to COVID-19
    Explanatory note
    Interim Order Respecting the Importation, Sale and Advertising of Drugs for Use in Relation to COVID-19

    (This note is not part of the Order.)
    ———
    Narrative should be based on facts, which should not be hard to find

    #81093
    madamski cafone
    Participant
    #81096
    those darned kids
    Participant

    (still can’t post a link)

    Drug Supply Security Act of 2015 (FDA overview)

    ht tp s:/ /ww w.fda .g ov/m edia/93779/download

    go to page 16.

    does pfizer have indemnity to this act?

    #81097
    Dr. D
    Participant

    It’s hazy and I’m missing something, but I feel the “40%”, the “clumping and severity” they are seeing in breakthrough cases suggest “saline” in some similar number, picked somehow. So, send Batch A, B and C to certain towns, or at a time window. There is adequate confusion and crossover and time lag to hide that Galveston is one way and Waco is another.

    Same time, who would you spare? Gov’t of course, if you could, but how about health care, which is national security but more, would go ape with high-science knowledge and disassemble your narrative if they were all disabled. While if all of them are fine, they will uniformly say “What are you peasants talking about? Everyone I know took it and is fine.”

    However: messy. Suppose a doctor got it at the clinic and not at the hospital, so they got a public dose? And then all the logistics? HOW on earth would you make 5-10 different batch types, TRACK them, DIRECT them? I’m not sure it’s possible without many, many steps that would raise flags.

    Suppose they’ve been doing this locality/variant plan for years with the flu vaccine? Would even that give them enough structure to control multiple directions? It seems quite difficult.

    Anyway, at our side, they’re in a rush because they know the data will come out and the time-lag and rising arguments mean whatever they’re doing will become obvious after September. —Although that won’t stop them from simply telling more different lies, still supported by Brooklyn editors who say vaccines work but everybody gets it afterward. Masks work except that everyone who wore them got sick. On and on. Survive the point of impact, and perhaps they will have to fall back on the defensive.

    #81098
    Dr. D
    Participant

    P.S. this is why they wanted centralized, one-stop national digital medical records, to track this. Another thing they’re mostly behind on. But they pointed out Google will sell them whether your phone is traveling or you’ve been bedridden for days. Compensating, not stopping.

    #81099
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.fda.gov/media/93779/download
    Drug Supply Chain Security Act
    (Title II of the Drug Quality and Security Act)
    Overview of Product Tracing
    Requirements
    p. 17
    After products are serialized
    • Only buy and sell products encoded with product identifiers
    (unless grandfathered under section 582(a)(5))
    – Repackagers (beginning 11/27/2018)
    – Wholesale distributor (beginning 11/27/2019)
    – Dispensers (beginning 11/27/2020)
    • Verification product at the package level, including the
    standardized numerical identifier (NDC and serial number)
    *see respective sections of 582 for specific verification requirements
    – Manufacturers: starting 11/27/2017
    – Repackagers: starting 11/27/2018
    – Wholesale distributors: starting 11/27/2019
    – Dispensers: starting 11/27/2020
    • Enhanced product tracing by 2023 at the package-level

    #81103
    Antidote
    Participant

    @john day

    John you are ‘loved’ by robin madamski morrison so your good to go bro.


    @michael
    reid

    Son, you love the brain of a psychopath


    @madamski

    madamski is a cunt by her own admission albeit one of high intellect. Robin Morrison is a dickhead by his own admission albeit one of high intellect. So I say to whatever you like to identify as, commence to have sex with yourself.

    #81105
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/creator-bond-vix-pens-open-letter-fed

    This was obvious from the start back in 08, and what going on now reminds me of the exact same thing? Always moving goalposts and something that will never end, hmmmm i wonder?

    #81106
    John Day
    Participant

    @Robin/Madamski: Thanks for the “Friends” song by Buzzy Lineheart. It jumped to mind when I saw it, but Bette Midler’s (hit) version.
    Thanks for the kind words. I do try to be useful.
    I feel like I’m “Friends” with everybody here, though it’s not always clear how to best communicate.
    Look at Voracious Poet opening up about nearly dying, being reintroduced to the light, and engaging life-in-overtime with that candle still burning.
    We are engaging more deeply. It’s work that seems worth doing, … now.

    #81107
    John Day
    Participant

    @Antidote:
    Awww, Man! Don’t kill the buzz !

    We wuz all startin’ to groove.

    #81108
    John Day
    Participant

    @Robin/Madamski/Boscohorowitz: The old dude singing “Oh Death” in 1983 was right on.
    The cartoon seemed like it was made by somebody who never met Death.

    I got interviewed by Death in the ocean, trying to save a Hungarian lady, in 1986.
    Death interviewed us both, deeply, thoroughly, without secrets.
    Death sort of spat in the (allegorical) dust and went away pissed-off.
    We had wasted Death’s time. We were nowhere near ready.

    We both lived through cold, exhausting hours in the water.
    We both had children later.
    Our children got to meet each other.
    Zsuzsa cooked for all of us together at her house in Szeged in 2005.

    #81109
    John Day
    Participant

    Dr.D. said,
    “Galveston is one way and Waco is another.”
    Hey, that’s how it is for me. I live in Austin.
    Where You live, Man?
    🙂

    #81110
    WES
    Participant

    John Day:

    I worked with a number of Texans in the coal mine near Window Rock, back in the seventies. One of them was Speedy! One night while back in Texas, drunk, Speedy, driving his fiberglass bodied Corvette, went off the road and somehow managed to find and side swipe the only fence post in all of Texas! The repair bill was huge!

    #81111
    John Day
    Participant

    DrD also said:
    “Same time, who would you spare? Gov’t of course, if you could, but how about health care, which is national security but more, would go ape with high-science knowledge and disassemble your narrative if they were all disabled. While if all of them are fine, they will uniformly say “What are you peasants talking about? Everyone I know took it and is fine.”

    However: messy. Suppose a doctor got it at the clinic and not at the hospital, so they got a public dose? And then all the logistics? HOW on earth would you make 5-10 different batch types, TRACK them, DIRECT them? I’m not sure it’s possible without many, many steps that would raise flags.”

    I’ve been pondering this, too, and like you, I suspect they may be wingin’-it on a lot of this.

    I suspect the COVID cat got out of the bag in May/June 2020 at Fort Detrick (but I’m not married to the scenario).
    We don’t have to know all the dovetail-joints of this construction to know to drag our heels, drag our heels, drag our heels , and keep looking out for clues as to what’s realy going on.
    There might not be an Occam’s Razor, but maybe Occam’s Switchblade is trying to shiv us in the kidney from behind.
    Let’s presume that “they” need to (eventually) get rid of the 90% of us that are worthless-eaters, worthless-users-of-petroleum-products and lithium-ions, diabetics-going-blind-with-amputated-toes and so on.
    The assumption that our “owners” (per Carlin, George) realize that “we” are going over the Seneca’s Cliff of cheap-energy-good-ores-and-aquifers, and are frantic to have at least half of us die pretty quick really simplifies the interpretation of events.
    The first tranche to go could sure be the medically vulnerable, who mostly used resources and didn’t produce value for Globo-Cap. Send the COVID-infected to nursing-homes by law!
    People with bad diets and low vitamin-D levels was another demographic they didn’t want to save with cheap vitamin-D pills. Being dark-skinned in winter in a northern city took out a lot of pawns, some of whom had regular jobs, but in northern cities…
    Now they are pushing the kill-shots on all the English kids with water on the brain and incurable diseases. Well, that’s pretty obvious through Occam’s Switchblade. Kill that tranche now, but say they need extra protecting, so we’ll give them the vaccines that kill babies, which we are not yet giving to all babies and children, because …. something-or-other.

    It is “Opposite World”, but I’m going to call it something less-off-putting and more genteel in a blog post that’s Brownian-motion-bouncing-around in my cranium.

    #81112
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Antidote

    Everyone has their issues and nobody is perfect. I extract things of value to me and ignore the rest. The value for me is the ideas expressed and some are profound. Yet some ideas are noise or incompatible with my way of thinking. And if one prejudges what may be found then there are hidden gems that one may never discover.

    #81113
    John Day
    Participant

    @Wes: I’m glad Speedy survived the mishap. What year vette?
    I liked the 1965s really well, though I never had one, but did drive one once.
    1963-1967 were all very sweet, but deadly, yeah deadly.
    It’s also good that I never had a Yamaha 350, back when I wanted one.
    (I never even wanted a Kawasaki Mark III 500 cc triple-wheelie-death-bike.)

    #81116
    Mr. House
    Participant

    What if both sides are lying to us with the goal being to drive us insane? At this point i dont consider anything out of the realm of possibilities

    #81119
    Mr. House
    Participant

    speculation or wishful thinking? seems to fit some of the trends of the last 20 years:

    “What’s happening was scripted decades ago (Operation Lock Step, etc.). Net-energy-positive petroleum production is about to collapse, which in conjunction with GSM and decline in food supply and corruption and psychosis permeating decision making bodies will bring about rapid collapse of the real economy. The future looks awful, since our standard of living will tank and a big chunk of the present population will become permanently insupportable. The clot shot cull seems well timed as a means to implement what economists call demand destruction on a large scale, as large as possible, having the effect of giving survivors — particularly those who actively reject the injections, since they still have survival instincts and facility for rational thought, problem solving and real leadership — a better fighting chance to surmount the greater hardship to come

    Speculation: All the “variants” are actually the spike protein injections at work, taking their toll on the schmucks.

    Therefore: We should welcome masks for the schmucks. It will stop them shedding and endangering the rest of us before they wither and die.”

    #81120
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Speculation (i like that term better then theory) from March of 2020

    OPERATION LOCK-STEP – The Sinister Agenda behind Covid-19

    #81121
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #81122
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “What if both sides are lying to us with the goal being to drive us insane?”

    They are. This was discussed in history books concerning Eastern Europe in the 30s. I believe it was the same in the Russian revolution, nothing but rumors. They have no imagination and a tired playbook. Luckily for them, the public would rather die than read or question anything, so it repeats over and over.

    So there is no “out of the narrative”, no “off the ranch”. There is still truth, but as per their religion, their job is to make truth no longer matter, only power. The only thing that matters, and the only win they have is if we fight, ignoring them up on the hill, selling arms and intel, making sure both sides smash equally all the way down. While you stay strong.

    The load-shedding is exactly what they wanted in the Green New Deal, certain choices leading to certain mass death nobody coulda knowd. But the people wouldn’t buy it and spit out the hook for DECADES no matter what. Maybe first time ever. …And they’re still at it today with no combustion engines, carbon-free 2030, which in engineering terms is like next Tuesday. If they tried it, more people would die than famine and war combined, which is why the green horse is one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Not that ecology would be a bad thing, but very difficult, reductive, consensus-building, and taking decades or centuries to build a new way. …And a new consciousness.

    So if the people won’t do it willingly, we’ll MAKE them. These are the same people who IF they do it willingly, blame the victims. So let me get this straight: you’ll lie to me from birth, bribe me, punish me, and if I refuse, arrest and force me, yet we’re in a world of free will where it’s all my fault. Right.
    What was that today? Work was voluntary, but if you didn’t work you got half-rations? –Animal Farm ‘Freedom’ like that.

    “No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die.”

    What is it with masks? Are people not fighting enough or is it that we won’t dismiss science and go back to the stone age? It’s getting me run-down.

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