Debt Rattle June 11 2023
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[See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 11 2023]An extraordinary discussion of gene transfection, prions, amyloidosis, etc. etc. with Flemming and McCairn.
We’re in deep shit folks.
Start at 11 min 30 sec.
TVASSF(they really are)
Richard Gage: 9/11, COVID9/11, & Crime Scene to Courtroom
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Richard Gage, AIA, discusses the key evidence which blows holes in the official 9/11 explanation and leads many to classify it as state terrorism. The truth is out, it’s just not being televised. He’s producing a new film “9/11: Crime Scene to Courtroom” whose evidence has been submitted to an attorney seeking a grand jury investigation and lawsuits against the FBI. He also describes the parallels between 9/11 and COVID-19 which seems to be yet another subsequent and related deep event.
”Freedom of speech means a lot to us at the OP. However, that’s been fading fast, as Daisy has documented, and as though speech restrictions aren’t bad enough, most of us have been lab rats for central planners’ behavioral experiments longer than we probably care to realize. And now there are Nudge Units.
Huge amounts of money have been poured into “nudge research,” determining the best ways to get populations to change their behaviors without passing laws or using force.
What are Nudge Units?
Let’s look at how these “Nudge Units” got started, what they’ve been used for most recently,n a sharp spotlight on the interplay between national security and individual privacy, newly disclosed documents have unveiled that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) entered into a contract with the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) in 2018 to develop a project, dubbed “Night Fury,” designed to analyze and assign “risk scores” to social media accounts.
So, which pathway—nature or machines—holds more promise?
In its sixth assessment report, released in March 2023, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the United Nations body that regularly assesses the current state of climate science, points out that “biological CDR methods like reforestation, improved forest management, soil carbon sequestration, peatland restoration[,] and coastal blue carbon management can enhance biodiversity and ecosystem functions, employment[,] and local livelihoods.”
On the other hand, notes the IPCC, the implementation of mechanical DAC along with underground sequestration of CO2 “currently faces technological, economic, institutional, ecological-environmental and socio-cultural barriers.” Further, the current global rates of mechanical carbon capture and storage “are far below those in modeled pathways limiting global warming to 1.5°C to 2°C.”
Malone.
National Digital ID System: It is Already Here:The only question is when, not if… The National Digital Health ID is being implemented by the Federal Office of the National Coordinator for Health Information Technology. Most US Citizens have no idea it is being implemented. The… pic.twitter.com/jheJTn5hcS
— Robert W Malone, MD (@RWMaloneMD) June 5, 2023
We can no longer trust the medical profession.
But y’all knew that already.
Confirmation …Supreme Court of Canada won’t hear unvaccinated woman’s case for organ donation
“The Supreme Court of Canada will not hear the appeal of an Alberta woman who was unwilling to be vaccinated against COVID-19 in order to get a life-saving organ transplant.
Annette Lewis was diagnosed with a terminal disease in 2018 and was told she would not survive unless she received an organ transplant.
She was placed on a transplant wait list in 2020, but was informed a year later she would need to get the COVID-19 vaccine to receive the organ.”
TVASSF (and some of the pure bloods too)
Facts Matter https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/facts-matter
Simplicus The Thinker carefully explains the deep and dense Russian lines protecting the approaches to Crimea with artillery, trenches and obstacles to tanks, dense minefields, attack helicopters, attack drones,precision munitions, electronic warfare and air dominance,and fresh,well trained soldiers manning defensive lines three -deep. There have been lots of technical criticisms of Ukrainian battle tactics.They are wrong. There is no good way to assault these defenses. It has never been done. It is suicidal.:
Anatomy of a NATO-Planned, Trained, and Armed Disaster ,
As the smoke cleared the battlefield, we were left witness to a disaster of unprecedented proportions. NATO’s most advanced tanks and armor were left as smoking ruins
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/anatomy-of-a-nato-planned-trainedAn earlier article from Simplicus, with lots of details of the beginning of the Ukrainian offensive, including mass refusals to fight suicidally by several Ukrainian units. and a seismic shock at the time the dam wasdamaged.Wasthis a very large explosion delivered by a submarine suicide drone?
Offensive Confirmed: AFU Strikes Hard But Leopards Get Spayed First about the Kakhovka dam. There are now new interesting details which complicate the situation. It turns out that a Norwegian seismic monitor, using local stations, recorded a seismic shock commensurate with an ‘explosion’ at exactly the time the Kakhovka dam first collapsed around 2am:
Norway’s nuclear test-ban monitor NORSAR says seismic signals indicate that there was an explosion at the Nova Kakhovka Dam at 02:54 AM on June 6, meaning kinetic action was highly likely used to bring the dam down. Magnitude estimated between 1 and 2.
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/offensive-confirmed-afu-strikes-hardBlack Mountain Analysis (Serbian) has the most in-depth and detailed analysis of the Kakhovka Dam, including construction details and plans. It lacks the Danish seismographic data, but concludes that a large explosive must have been carried to the dam underwater from the reservoir side.
https://bmanalysis.substack.com/p/kakhovka-dam-destructionUsing high tech British drones to attack massed civilians sheltering from the flood that drove them from their homes when the dam was bombed…
KYIV LAUNCHED UK-SUPPLIED MISSILES AT FLOOD SHELTER IN SOUTHERN KHERSON
https://southfront.org/kyiv-launched-uk-supplied-missiles-at-flood-shelter-in-southern-kherson/ Has Israel armed Ukrainian forces with anti-tank missiles? Photo of training in Poland with these Israeli weapons suggests this may be the case.
The new photos indicate that Kiev forces are at least being trained on Spike LR ATGMs. It is still unclear if the systems will indeed be supplied, or if the decision to do so was taken with the approval of Israel.
The Spike LR offers nothing new from other ATGMs already supplied to Kiev forces, like the American-made FGM-148 Javelin and the French-made Akeron MP.
If Israel has indeed taken the decision to deliver lethal weapons to Ukraine, directly or indirectly, Russia could respond by arming Syria with advanced weapons, stepping up military cooperation with Iran or even by shipping Western weapons captured from Kiev forces to Hezbollah in Lebanon and the Hamas Movement in the Gaza Strip.
https://southfront.org/new-photos-suggest-israel-approved-supply-of-spike-missiles-to-ukraine/Starting Monday, June 12 in a world much like your own, because freedom and peace are worth dying for after you run out of Ukrainians.
In the multinational Air Defender 23 exercise, 25 nations train together in the airspace above Europe in joint air operations.https://www.bundeswehr.de/en/organization/german-air-force/air-defender-23
Eleni sent this. What if you threw a rules-based party and nobody came?
The key factor that has enabled the US to force this order on friends and foes alike, was its monopoly on the world’s trade currency and its ability to sanction, regime-change or invade anyone who skirted the rules.
But this could soon change and everyone is anticipating the changes. This month, from 14 to 17 June, most of the nations of the global south will be attending the Saint Petersburg International Economic Forum when new announcements are expected. They could include a new global exchange system enabling any nation to sidestep the increasingly risky use of the American dollar.
Development of this new system was announced last June and since then, Russian and Chinese diplomats have signalled to the nations of the global south that if they chose to join, they will not be penalized either for defaulting on their debt obligations to western financial institutions, or for re-nationalizing their domestic resources and industries.
If the mood is sour even among US allies, we can be sure that much of the global south is ready to jettison this rules-based order, default on their western debts and even renationalize the most valuable pieces of their national assets. This would be the “bottom falling out” moment for the western financial system.
https://alexkrainer.substack.com/p/what-if-you-threw-a-rules-based-partyThe pork must flow… Biden Administration Announces $2.1 Billion Weapons Package for Ukraine
Biden Administration Announces $2.1 Billion Weapons Package for Ukraine
Revealed: Bombshell FBI Document Alleges $5 Million Bribe Paid To Joe Biden By Burisma Exec
The form, dated June 30, 2020, is from a “highly credible” confidential human source who had detailed multiple meetings and conversations they had with a top Burisma executive over the course of several years, beginning in 2015. The CHS had been working with the FBI as a regular, reliable source of information since 2010, and has been paid approximately $200,000 by the bureau…
..According to the Burisma executive, the company had to “pay the Bidens” because Ukraine’s lead prosecutor, Victor Shokin, was investigating Burisma.
According to the CHS, he suggested that the Burisma executive “pay the Bidens $50,000 each,” to which the Burisma executive replied “not $50,000,” it is “$5 million.”
”$5 million for one Biden, $5 million for the other Biden,” the executive reportedly said.
The $5 million payments appeared to reference some sort of “retainer” Burisma intended to pay the Bidens in order to ‘clean up’ several issues – including the investigation led by Shokin.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/revealed-bombshell-fbi-document-alleges-5-million-bribe-paid-joe-biden-burisma-exec From The Organic Prepper blog: Why Is the Establishment So Scared of RFK Jr.?
Rather than name-calling, if RFK Jr. is so dead-wrong about vaccines and children’s health, why doesn’t anyone actually engage him?
People refuse to engage in arguments with RFK Jr. because they can’t. He’s a long-time trial lawyer, so he’s good at arguing, and he’s also very, very intelligent. He’s comfortable reading scientific material and understands much of the debates around childhood health and vaccines in a way that many people, even many college-educated people, just don’t…
..However, because understanding his point of view well enough to engage in serious argument requires an understanding of both science and history, most pundits find it far simpler to just call him crazy and refuse to let him speak.
But RFK Jr. gets his message out anyway, finding alternative outlets, doing his best to expose the inner workings between Big Government and Big Business.
And this is probably why RFK Jr. is such a thorn in the side of the Democratic establishment. He doesn’t play along with most of the big donors he’s supposed to play along with.
https://www.theorganicprepper.com/rfk-jr/ Tucker Talks Taboos After MSM Ignores Instagram Kiddie-Porn Bombshell
Which brings Carlson to this week’s horrific WSJ expose of Instagram’s kiddie-porn rings which he notes has resulted in exactly nothing as “one of the largest circulation newspapers in the world reported that one of the world’s most influential companies was promoting pedophilia and nobody in power did anything about it.”
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-talks-taboos-after-msm-ignores-instagram-kiddie-porn-bombshell‘Zuckerberg Must Explain’: EU Demands Answers On ‘Instagram Pedophile Network’
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/zuckerberg-must-explain-eu-demands-answers-instagram-pedophile-networkChina Crude Stockpiles Hit Two Year High As US Strategic Reserve Drops To 40 Year Low
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/china-crude-stockpiles-hit-two-year-high-us-strategic-reserve-drops-40-year-lowHey sweetie, you’re going to die a childless cat-lady surrounded by gender ambiguous girlie-men permanently stuck in the hellscape of the ‘Friend Zone’
Forget even hooking up with Beta men, you’re destiny is with Zeta ‘men’.
No family for you
Don’t bank on this yet please, Mr.President. ExxonMobil: New Fracking Technology Can Double Oil Output
Exxon is currently working on two specific areas to improve fracking. First off, the company is trying to frack more precisely along the well so that more oil-soaked rock gets drained. It’s also looking for ways to keep the fracked cracks open longer so as to boost the flow of oil.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/ExxonMobil-New-Fracking-Technology-Can-Double-Oil-Output.htmlThe Sun Declares War On Earth (4 min.) looks at Carrington-level Events (1859 event), which come about every 200 years, and are far from the most destructive electromagnetic events the sun periodically belches-up. The earth’s magnetic fields are much weakened now, as the magnetic poles are wandering.
Meryl Nass MD, Heart stops 14 hours after a Pfizer shot. Eventually a new heart needed, cost $3 million. No one dares mention that Pfizer shot in the medical record (except the patient)
https://merylnass.substack.com/p/heart-stops-14-hours-after-a-pfizerThe story concludes :
John, now 66, does not blame the doctors who did not question the vaccine’s role. “Their concern was my survival,” he said, “and my heart.” The Berndsens are grateful, however, that there are doctors like Peter McCullough, who do question the safe-and-effective vaccine narrative. He gave perspective to their vaccine experience and helped them navigate its aftermath.
“He was,”said Leslie, “a voice of reason in a world of chaos.”
https://rescue.substack.com/p/a-pfizer-shot-a-failed-heart-a-transplantIt’s a Russian Turkey shoot on the Ukronazis
The Russian Ka-52 is actually a ‘wonder weapon’, unlike the designed for profit not performance Empire of Lies junk.
This is a typical helicopter kill on a moving Bradley at full speed packed with Ukronazi ‘elite’ troops at 10km.
Gone to Bandera
“The Pursuit of Happiness”
What is happiness?
The art of learning how to cope with misery.How to hone said art?
A possible way: carefully calibrate the influence exerted by the relentless triumvirate – disgust + delight + obsession – over one’s own affairs.
Some do it intuitively; some learn it after long travails; to some, a lifetime isn’t enough (to perceive it.)Have a nice week.
The harsh truth, of Neo-Nazism, regarding the futility of defeating of Russia—is starting to sink in.
Definition
Neo-Nazism comprises the post–World War II militant, social, and political movements that seek to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and racial supremacy (often white supremacy), attack racial and ethnic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_neo-Nazi_organizations
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Action/reaction
impunity,(exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action)
Saudi relationship and impose significant economic costs on the U.S. especially if their inane president calls for retaliation against newly announced Saudi and Russian oil cuts.
———-KARI LAKE: “If you want to get to President Trump, you’re going to have to go through me, and 75 million Americans just like me. And most of us are card-carrying members of the NRA.
So much talk, it is pathetic. People who take revenge do not announce it, so it is only rational to assume that this “Kari Lake” is another bullshit politician.
There were at least 13,500 cases of medically assisted suicide in Canada in 2022 fiscal year, up from just over 10,000 the year before, activists from the group Euthanasia Prevention Coalition (EPC) have revealed.
Euthanasia rates are “skyrocketing,” the group’s director Alex Schadenberg told the Daily Mail on Wednesday, because the procedure has been normalized by a “heavy promotion of MAiD in our medical system.” MAiD stands for “medical assistance in dying.”
“Every major healthcare institution has a MAiD team which will literally approach everyone who may qualify for MAiD and ask them if they want to die,” Schadenberg said. “If you’re going to pay people to be on a MAiD team, they will sell what they are offering.”
from RT article about Canada
The ultimate market state in which everything that can be marketed and sold to you will — including your own death. We don’t know how to cooperate. We know how to sell and be sold to.
It all comes down to how slick the ad is versus how sharp is your mind. Ask your doctor if dying is right for you.
After all, to live or die is the primary and also ultimate lifestyle choice, and we’re all about lifestyle choices.
Re: Richard Gage.
I am always for anybody or anything that pushes for truth, Beautiful AEfor911truth got slightly tarnished in my eyes when heard that Gage had some quarrel with the movement resulting in him “leaving the band for solo career”. Also, major financial backing that movement had (not sure if they are still active) was from the voluntary donations just to be slurped by $500/hr “best in the country” lawyers.
Hope that something comes out of his effort. It’s been too long.“We all cherish our children’s future.”
I no longer believe this is true. As an abandoned child, raised by grandparents that didn’t want me, left to raise myself and completely fend for myself by the age of around 8 years old, I thought I was just unlucky. That most parents loved their children. Watching what “loving parents” do to their children, I see widespread abuse. And seriously messed up kids. The truly healthy families and children are the minority now.
Yesterday’s post by Dora – The Great Awakening. On Rumble.
At about 3:38 +- into video coffee, I confess, went trough my nose.Thinking out of the box
Found – cut and pasteVladimir Zelensky, Russian Hero?
During his tenure as president of (what remains of) THE Ukraine, Zelensky has wrecked THE Ukraine, but has achieved many great things… for Russia.
Here are his main achievements in no particular order:
• By being elected with the promise of ending hostilities, then immediately proceeding to escalate the conflict in the east, he thoroughly compromised what was left of Ukrainian democracy. He further demolished the Ukraine’s civic realm by banning all public media except for one government channel, banning all opposition and all Russian news sources and, in effect, establishing a totalitarian dictatorship.
• By relentlessly shelling the civilians in the now Russian Donetsk and Lugansk regions, then, in the spring of 2022, threatening them with a genocidal assault, he provided Russia with an ironclad reason to start the Special Military Operation: to save civilian lives. By so doing, he helped to expand Russian territory by four very valuable provinces (Donetsk, Lugansk, Zaporozhye and Kherson) and set the stage for the eventual addition of, among others, Nikolaev, Odessa, Kharkov, and Kiev regions.
• He squandered $150 billion in foreign aid (much of it by the simple expedient of stealing it), expended a huge amount of military equipment and ammunition with nothing to show for it, and killed off 350 thousand Ukrainian soldiers (many of them Nazi war criminals), with possibly twice as many wounded.
• He shrunk his country’s population by almost half, some of it moving to Russia, becoming Russian citizens and integrating productively into the Russian population while rest went to the European Union, becoming a major burden for the welfare budgets of EU countries.
• By ordering Ukrainian troops to shell schools, kindergartens, hospitals and apartment buildings in universally recognized Russian regions such as Belgorod and by launching drone attacks directly on the Kremlin, he declared his government to be a terrorist organization, foreclosing any possibility of forcing Russia to negotiate a peace that would not be entirely on its own terms.
• He demonstrated the superiority of Russian weapons and military technique over NATO’s, most recently with Russia’s destruction of one of the Patriot missile batteries provided by the US. Almost every bit of equipment the West has been able to provide to the Ukrainians has been shown to be inferior to its Russian counterpart.
• He gave the Russian army ample opportunities to perfect their techniques for defeating NATO forces, venturing into new areas of drone warfare and battlefield surveillance from geostationary satellites. This will no doubt be very useful both in opposing NATO and in boosting future weapons sales to non-Western nations that wish to be free from Western oppression and meddling.
• He sold some of the weapons he received from the US to Mexican drug cartels, leaving US officials with no other choice than closing their eyes and pretending that this did not happen. Perhaps they will also be forced to look the other way as these cartels make use of these weapons to take over more and more of US cities and towns.
• He played host to many high-ranking Western officials, whom, on their to visit to Kiev, he presented with lavish presents such as suitcases of foreign aid money he had laundered, which these officials then brought home in diplomatic baggage, thus collecting blackmail material on all of them.
• He set an example for other Russian Jews whose bad luck had caused them to end up in the Ukraine rather than in Russia by resettling his parents in a posh neighborhood in Israel. But he kept his wife by his side, where she did a good job demoralizing the Ukrainian population by squandering more money on a single European shopping spree than most Ukrainians see in several lifetimes, all paid for by the US taxpayer. She also worked hard to gaslight Western officials by making them accept at face value and repeat ridiculous tales, such as the one about Russian troops being issued viagra, for them to better rape Ukrainian women.
• Zelensky is sometimes incautious; for instance, he got caught appointing operatives from Russia’s Federal Security Service (former KGB) to sensitive posts within the Ukrainian defense establishment, although it is unclear whether what’s left of the Ukrainian judiciary will be capable of prosecuting him.
• One of his greatest achievements was in placing the US and NATO in a zugzwang. This is a chess term for a situation in which a player has a choice of several moves, all of which lead to defeat. The US and NATO can either continue supporting the Ukraine, or they can stop supporting the Ukraine; in either case, they will lose.
• Perhaps his greatest achievement of all was in helping Russia turn away from its hostile neighbors in the West and toward friendly countries in Asia, Middle East, Africa and Latin America, cutting its economic, financial and cultural ties to the West and freeing itself from Western influences. His unwavering support for Ukrainian Nazis, whose emblems, insignia and slogans are styled after Nazi Germany and whose heroes are Nazi collaborators, coupled with the lavish support they received from the West, whose leaders chose to turn a blind eye toward their fascist proclivities, cemented in view of the Russians the view of the West as their existential enemy: a fascist, racist entity determined to destroy Russia but too weak and cowardly to do the job themselves.
Posted by: Mael Amelyk | Jun 11 2023 15:03 utc | 8
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‘Pass this on to Putin:’ Slava Cocaini!We all know what this mongrel is buying with his percentage of the loot from the Western tax payers, but it is an absolute mystery to me what drug he is giving to the poor shmucks to be blown to pieces on the muddy fields of Ukraine. After the mass-induced Covid psychosis, how do “the owners of us” instigate such truly lemming-like walking to their deaths (and it is just a myth about lemmings)? There must be a combination of “victory brainwashing”, shooting of “deserters”, captagon in food/drink and whatever else (maybe chipping?).
Whatever the “success” formula is – could such psychological et al techniques be extended to the population of NATO countries, starting with the Poles and the Balts? Are ”the owners of us” using Ukraine for the leading-edge psychological research, a continuation of the Covid-related stellar achievements?
Posted by: Kiza | Jun 11 2023 15:08 utc | 9
@ John Day
Don’t fall for the fracking bullshit.
And The Lies, They Just Keep On A Commin’!
https://www.oilystuffblog.com/forumstuff/forum-stuff/and-the-lies-they-just-keep-on-a-commin
“Nudge”
It is a very useful parental technique.When I had three young’uns 18 months apart in age (preschool and the early years of elementary school,) getting them all to bed was challenging. I learned the art of the “nudge.” They shared a bedroom. The bathroom was on one end of the house, their room on the other. After bathroom stuff was done, I tuned off the light in the bathroom, then the light in the hall to the bathroom. The kids were in the living room. I turned off the light in the living room, and the kids moved forward to the kitchen and family room. I turned off the light in the kitchen, and soon all three were in the family room, perhaps one or two had gone down the hall to their bedroom. I turned off the light in the family room and walked into their bedroom. Any of the kids still in the family room followed down the hall into their bedroom. I shut of the light to the hall, returned to their room, and commenced putting in pajamas and story reading. I didn’t have to make any demands, cajole, threaten, sweet-talk, bribe — nothing. They were tall enough to put the lights back on. (Occasionally they did do that.). They left the dark and followed the light to their bedroom.
However, that our managers are attempting this through digital means tells us that they think of us as children, and not as sovereign adults.
National Digital Health ID
I’m guessing that this is tied to the “health exchanges”? Anytime anyone in the US goes to a doctor or medical facility of any kind these days, take a look at the paperwork that you are required to sign. Generally, your data is going to be entered into a digital “health exchange” unless you actively opt out.Good debate:
It’s a big pantomime and you are in it
“Where we are now is exactly where we were at the start: inadvertent actors in a big, gaudy global show – a circus theatre performance called “Covid”.
Covid is a theatrical production, performed by actors, extras, and even professional dancers, to lure the world into a trance, convincing them to invest in something that is not real – just as theatrical processionals are trained to do.
There is no evidence that 2020 was any different to any other year in terms of volume of people hospitalised with serious respiratory illnesses – the only difference was, instead of classifying those who entered hospital with respiratory problems as having ‘flu (which inexplicably “disappeared” in 2020, the same way Marathon bars “disappeared” upon the introduction of Snickers), it was recorded – courtesy of unfit-for-purpose tests – that they had “Covid”. These patients were then improperly treated, with highly dangerous drugs such as remdesivir and midazolam, and put on “death trap” ventilators, in order to expedite death from conditions that, treated properly, many would have survived.”
TVASSF (and they were simply the audience)
What do you think “the eyes in the sky” are doing?
They are reporting, and can report in real time, to the military leaders, political leaders, and every one who needs to know, what Russia is doing, so that they can make decisions to defeat the Russians.
Why can’t they stop Russia?
SHHHH Quiet!Shame on Justin Trudeau and Chrystia Freeland for prioritizing the need of Ukraine instead of Canada (another $500,000 that could have been used to take care of our many problems)
…defensive lines three -deep. There have been lots of technical criticisms of Ukrainian battle tactics.They are wrong. There is no good way to assault these defenses. It has never been done.
I kind of disagree with this. Somewhere behind the scenes are (you would think there WOULD be…) planners who went to war college – West Point, The Citadel, whatever. The problem posed is not specific technology. It’s the overall factors of ability to apply firepower, speed of intelligence vs speed of movement, things like that.
If you had someone diligently study various cases from the US Civil War, they’d have a menu of problem-solving options at their disposal. The solutions of, for instance, Grant, Sherman, Rosecrans, Lee, and Longstreet were all distinctly different and all are super instructive for the minds dealing with the Ukrainian conflict today.
Therefore, my feeling is that people WITHOUT training in military science, people who have NOT studied these lessons nor learned how to apply them abstractly, are running the show. 3 letter agencies, State Department, political and corporate interests? Paramilitary leaders with no leadership skills above platoon level? They have one or two hammers and everything looks like a nail?
These layered defense lines with mutually supporting fire, various ways of delivering firepower to the right place, speed of intelligence vs speed of attack… there are MANY instances of this. US Civil War, WW1, and WW2 being obvious examples. The recent armored thrusts are reminiscent of initial US attempts to breach the West Wall on the Western front in WW2.
Deep echeloned defense lines supported by combined arms are OLD. The weapons have changed, but the basic problems have not.
Kursk is an obvious example. While attacking the Kursk salient was a bad idea, because it had become the greatest fortress in the world and all of history, German efforts at least showed how to TRY to peel it open. They penetrated IIRC maybe 12mi and were STILL running into minefields and Pakfronts (arrays of multiple synchronized antitank batteries) People were running out to plant tank barriers and new minefields around their tanks as well (similar problem to the rocket launched mines used today)
I haven’t found specifics on how they dealt with minefields, but generally they didn’t launch tank assaults against covering fire along a single-vehicle wide strip, that much seems to be clear.
At Kursk they had local air superiority at times, so they had Stukas to help them. Artillery support was lavishly provided. They ground away fairly well and claim to have had a favorable attrition ratio. Still, the German attack on Kursk was a mistake. And the guys running the show today in Ukraine can’t even seem to get it together enough to equal a MISTAKE from 75 years ago.
They’re saying Ukraine has about 600 tanks in reserve with newly refreshed or created NATO trained and equipped units. Difficult to tell whether people mean they have 600 total or if that is the strategic reserve in addition to whatever else is out there. Panzer divisions in WW2 ranged from around 145-265 tanks at least on paper “force structure” documents. Taking the low end 600/145 = equivalent of about 4 ww2 panzer divisions? I’m seeing claims they’ve lost about 120 tanks in attacks in the past week.
So they’ve got the equivalent of 3 fresh WW2 armor divisions left in reserve?
All conjecture of course
I don’t see how any of this makes sense unless the plan is to let the lower Dneiper area dry out and then, with the launch of massive NATO air exercises tomorrow, NATO gets involved in air support and they do a crossing of the lower Dnieper to cut off Crimea with dreams of bagging Mariupol, Taganrog, or Rostov if things go well. (all fever-dreams assuming NATO does not bring in massive air support and missiles)
I suppose Russia still has the option of blowing the dam north of the reservoir, which perhaps explains why Ukraine opened the gates wide, to drain everything so Russia cannot cut off forces that cross the river.
If I were imagining them being smart, then I’d say the goal is to grab the land approaches to Crimea, heavily fortify them, and then let Russia bludgeon itself to death trying to restore the land connection. But I cannot see how that works without NATO jumping in. What other objective of any real value is there for them to go for? If you don’t have an achievable objective that HELPS you upon having taken it, then you’re just saying “Hey defenders, defend in whatever your favorite way is for as long as you like”
Trying it from Zaporozhe seems retarded. You’re going to drive all they way to the Sea of Azov from Zaporozhe? Make a drive on DONETSK?? I don’t see anything of material value from there that isn’t a 200km trip. Might as well be on the Moon. This is reminiscent of ww1 stuff, where the Brits and French repeatedly tried for, vaguely, a “breakthrough” but with no specific beneficial achievable objective in mind. Even if it “worked” (Cambrai for instance) nothing really happened.
Looking at these photos of pitiable clusters of knocked out Ukrainian armor makes me sick to my stomach. One commenter I came across suggested the Ukraine attacks must be being used as seed data for an AI because the actions are so nonsensical.
jb-hb
Paraphrasing what you said:
1. There is no “secret movement” that cannot be seen and destroyed because of “eyes in the sky” that can direct missiles and artillery.
2. How far can any transport go on “a tank of gas”, and without maintenance?As usual, the winning option, don’t go to war
I found a cool set of maps of the Eastern front in WW2 some of which cover the current Ukraine Conflict area
https://inflab.medium.com/eastern-front-maps-of-world-war-ii-17f4a26545e9
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