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    Leonardo da Vinci A Copse of Trees 1508   • Xi Jinping To Make State Visit To Russia On March 20-22 – Kremlin (TASS) • US and Other Western Natio
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle March 18 2023]

    #131528
    V. Arnold
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    Leonardo da Vinci A Copse of Trees 1508

    Now, who in the hell would have thought to do just exactly that? To paint that picture exactly like that?
    Obviously da Vinci did….
    Awesome; no?

    #131529
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    A good shit-hitting-the-fan summary below, as everything gets ramped up into a monumental crisis by the City of London and international banksters and the Oceania military-industrial complex.

    Monday is going to be very ‘interesting’ (we on Airstrip Five will have to wait till Tuesday to hear about the carnage)

    #131530
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Possible that painting is a camera obscura and the reason it’s so off-center is the balance of where the pinhole fell in the room.

    “ATF Gains Financial Information On Potential Gun Buyers For Warrantless Tracking, Documents Show”

    Yes, requesting this information would be a “warrant”. But that’s a law and we don’t follow those.

    “White House Rejects Ceasefire In Ukraine As China Mediation Intensifies

    We’re not in the war, but it’s our decision alone if it ends or not. Got it.

    “Arrest Warrant Issued For President Putin By Hague-Based ICC

    That’ll settle things down. I’m sure he’ll call for a ceasefire and leave now if he’s to be arrested forever. Meanwhile, Bush, Rumsfeld, Obama, Hillary, Chertoff, and now Biden are all walking around discrediting the ICC Court forever.

    JPM: As Bank Run Drains $550 Billion In Deposits In One Week, QT Is Essentially Over”

    Kind of. More accurately it appears the Fed and Treasury are fighting. Yellen demands and promises all bailouts, nationwide. Powell defers, as the Fed is established by Congress and if the GOVERNMENT wishes to print, on THEIR budget, he must comply. The TREASURY is ending QT. She had been trying in several ways, including starting a world-wide nuclear war, but this is their new Covid to end the dollar and install Davos.

    Okay, ALL banks are now the Fed/Government. And ALL risks are now the Fed/Government’s. Happy now? Have we reached nirvana now that we have 100% moral hazard, still done nothing to execs who have no risk compliance, insider trade, then give themselves options as an insult to the bankruptcy court?

    All banks are now one bank. All risks are now one risk. So when Pa’s Crab Shack n Bank in Maine fails, the entire daisy chain fails up to JP Morgan. That now happens via the currency. All actions are now government actions, so not stopping it is the government’s fault. Do you think they move fast enough and have eyes everywhere the way the market does?

    I forget what the level of insuring all deposits is, $40 trillion? Commercial alone is $17 trillion. She just did this, no act of Congress. Somebody want to explain that to me when all spending bills originate in the Congressional House? And Biden had already hit the budget wall and were using overtime measures to pay for things?

    Why would that happen? We have first month ever with “M” money supply contracting, causing compounding-interest bank failures, not only right-on-time, but to the second accuracy. Yellen is now stopping the Money Supply contraction, which will move the risk to the currency, as risk and mispricing cannot be reduced, only transferred. …And increased.

    The Covid inflation occurred, just as we all said (although I was badly off on the timing). We are now tripling that.

    Wokeness Did Not Cause Collapse” Factcheck.

    Fact Check: That’s not what they said. In true NPD form, they latch on or even fabricate something that wasn’t said or even invent something, then deny that made-up fact instead. What they said was, SVB had no Risk officer for a year, while they had a Diversity officer flying around, spending millions, instructing the public where the SVB board puts their pee-pees. So where were SVB’s priorities? THAT is what they were saying, which are objective facts.

    Bombshell: “The walls are closing in on the Biden’s”

    …As exactly nothing happens. As usual. Complete abdication of duty at every level, down to the dog-catcher.

    ““Who would have thought 15 years ago, that taking care of children, saving them and treating them, would become criminally punishable in the West.” – Maria Zakharova

    I guess she doesn’t live here. Killing our children is a time-honored tradition now for generations. The more unsafe and violent it is for them, the more we go in that direction. The more we refuse to turn around and go back. Killing children is our compass that way.

    “The market’s proverbial “vibes”—feelings, emotions, beliefs, and psychological penchants—suggest a dark turn”

    They always call on “animal spirits” theory because they’re failed economists with failed theories that failed 100 years in a row. No. Human action is not irrational. Ask “Human Action.” A crypto bank went down after raising money. Fed interest rates have been rising, erasing collateral and SIVB, too busy talking about their pee-pees, did nothing to mitigate the planet’s most enormous, obvious, and slow-moving risk. When SVB then spoke of raising capital (and STILL had done nothing about the deteriorating bond portfolio condition because I guess they’re “not bankers” and can’t do “you had one job”) Peter Thiel and others took it as a red flag. He removed some $21B personally, no doubt signaling to others. Why? Irrational spirits? No. Removing the money costs essentially zero, while not removing it could cost essentially everything. That’s just logic and incentives, “Self Interest” in “Human Action”. Socialists would have you lose 100% of your money in order to backstop a system/decision that will fail anyway. The collective is more important than the individual, so we kill every individual one-by-one to save the…wait, what?

    Why the next banks? “Human Action” and Self Interest in Incentives again: The Fed, last time, has OFFICIALLY says there are “Systemically Critical Banks.” WE didn’t make that up, they did, in policy that is essentially law. Under THEIR policy, the Fed/Treasury will ONLY backstop these FOUR largest banks. Everyone else will go bankrupt. So if the 20th largest regional bank was NOT to be bailed – as JUST occurred – then EVERY bank 20th and below are NOT SAFE. THEY did not say that with their irrational animal spirits, the FED said that, by ‘law’.

    Therefore, every rational person with two brain cells to rub together (not SIVB), pulled their money from EVERY regional bank and moved it to the four monopoly banks. That took down the next two banks. That’s Yellen and Bernanke’s fault. THEY did that. Also great for competition. Capitalism!

    So then? To stop the bank run on every bank OTHER THAN the Four – which THEY caused – Yellen now backstops ALL banks. To ALL levels. That is, we now have a nationalized banking system. But in the American way, All the fraud, none of the benefits. And a inflating currency to boot.

    Their cover? To say IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT. Yeah, you little people! If you hadn’t been “irrational”, tried to make “payroll” and not go “bankrupt”, — and just sat there and let us rob you – none of this would have happened! Now stop defending yourselves and let us steal. Why you gotta be so rational all the time and “not die”?

    Weird how the “market vibes” somehow always involve “self-preservation” according to the incentive structure THEY set up. I blame Peter Thiel. It’s the Biden Administration: they always attack women and the gays.

    “Ukraine will remember those who backed it in its conflict with Russia and will hold those who did not accountable,”

    Who?? Sorry, I only listen to nations that are relevant. His statement only makes sense if you know who “We” are. Somehow a tiny sliver that runs Ukraine is claiming they ALSO have the power to hold all nations worldwide to account. O Rly? Would you like to expand on that notion? Are you saying you have paid, planted sympathizers in these administrations that are paid to actively work against their own nations’ interests and in the interest of this sliver of Ukrainian oligarchs instead? Because, newsflash: that would be “treason” in all the nations involved. So please, by all means send me your documents on this subject.

    Violent protests in France over Macron unilaterally pushing through pension reforms.”

    When one man “just says” and the law appears, that’s Democracy! Sounds like the United States. We haven’t passed a thing, nothing on Covid, no war powers acts, no debt forgiveness, no congressional budget for bailouts, but as Biden says “he’ll just do it” using Obama’s “Phone and a pen.” One man rules all = Democracy. They also shoot them in the streets because they have such public support. Quick! Tell King George! All he had to do is say “Democracy? You already got one!”

    “US ‘Taking Close Look’ At Drone Operations – CNN (RT)

    Already conceded. They immediately launched another drone (so they can tell the papers) then keep that drone 100 miles away, over the horizon from Crimea and the crash. (as a message).

    Scott Ritter rips into Marco Rubio & Lindsey Graham”

    Yes but Marco Rubio is not an American, and Lindsey Graham is not a human.

    “A government-linked academic group pushed Twitter to censor factually correct stories about Covid-19 if they risked “fueling hesitancy” about vaccines,”

    How do you know if a story causes “Vaccine hesitancy”? Using your Putin-Telepathy? You now know the internal states of all humans you never met? And as Dore says, They, being the super-smart and special people, are not affected by reading all this propaganda for you and censoring it. You, being the stupid, ignorant, deplorable sub-humans ARE affected by these words and obey them slavishly, totally affected and not having minds of your own.

    BTW that’s Munchausen again. That’s the whole Left. “Mommy needs to protect you because you’re a weak, worthless, injured, incapable non-person who can never survive without me.” For instance, that’s the line of the Wicked Witch in “Tangled”, the Rapunzel remake. Mommy is the savior; you’re the sap. Her one true job and burden is to protect you from facts and the truth.

    The truth that you’re fine, you don’t need her. This is a height of violence that men, and “the patriarchy”, can’t even conceive of. But “it’s not evil when I do it.” When I kill you, it’s Love, don’t you see???

    Don’t fool yourself, they’re creating the largest bank runs since 1929.”

    As I said, probably not, but they are transferring all $40T in bank runs to the currency.

    alleged “hush money” scheme”

    WTF does that mean? It’s illegal to pay people now? There are no more non-disclosure agreements? Papers can’t buy an “exclusive”? There’s no such thing as employees or contracts? They’re capable of anything, so I guess we’ll find out, but I didn’t know paying my ex-lovers was illegal.

    MPSK: Why? A gun should be the last thing to own. Especially after door locks and moving. After tasers or pepper. After everything. You are most likely to be injured with your gun. The most likely thing is it will be taken and/or used on you. It will be a liability in court in contrast to clubbing them with a toaster.

    That said, what gun? The one that is nearest when you need it. Which to buy? Skip the gun and spend all the money on training how to use it. That said: what do you mean to shoot? To kill? What are the laws in your area?

    Unrestricted, everyones’ choice is a Glock with a lot of bullets. Restricted, almost everyone’s choice is a shotgun. Those two don’t match up but it is possible to pair ammunition between a pistol and long gun for instance with a .410 or 9mm, e.g. But you’ll know all that if you do 6 months task-specific training like you might if you feel the need to shoot things.

    Fernando “FerFAL” Aguirre has one of the most reasonable takes on it, having survived, then intelligently left Argentina and their near-constant economic and social collapse. https://www.survival-spot.com/survival-blog/argentina-collapse/ (for example)

    Sorry, but it’s a tool and so it all depends. If you’re on a Wyoming ranch dealing with coyotes, the suburbs of Pennsylvania, section 8 in Chicago, or a condo in Florida. Don’t ask about the gun, in fact, ignore the gun, avoid it if you can. Focus on the task. What’s the goal? Fill the goal any way you can without a gun first.

    #131531
    EoinW
    Participant

    Is the world a better place when incompetent people don’t quit?

    Look at Lincoln’s resume: failure after failure after failure. He spent a lifetime failing. Let’s make him president of a country! After all the South said: “elect anyone else and we’ll keep talking and compromising. But elect Lincoln and we’re done!” Does this mean John Bolton will be the last POTUS?

    Lincoln is considered one of the greatest presidents. The power of propaganda – or is it the stupidity of westerners? What did Lincoln do when he actually succeeded at something for the first time in his life? He ruled by decree and got more Americans killed than any other president ever.

    I’ve got a great idea for the 21st century. Let’s find a thousand Lincolns – people who have failed at everything all their lives – and put them in charge of the entire western world. I wonder how that will turn out.

    #131533
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Charlie Robinson: Life After Collapse of American Empire

    Author Charlie Robinson discusses the globalist’s octopus of control and their domination agenda. He’s concerned with the push for supranationalism and regional integration (e.g. North American Union). He explains how he recently predicted a banking crisis at Anarchapulco ahead of the Silicon Valley Bank collapse and urges people to keep their savings outside of banks to prep for the coming CBDC system. He comments on México, the decline of U.S. Empire, peak wokeism, and how he still remains optimistic about the future.

    Charlie Robinson: Life After Collapse of American Empire

    #131534
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Everyone seems to be chasing their tails as to whether it was Wuhan, Fauci, Pfizer, the CDC, etc …..who was responsible for the mass genocide of the Clot-shot when its becoming very clear it was the Military Industrial Mafia®.

    The ‘Defense Department’ is just one of many ‘tips’ of a vast cancerous criminal enterprise that has finally metastasized into every nook and cranny of the Collective West and its Empire of Lies®.

    The Lies now go so deep now they are part and parcel of the very bone marrow of everyday existence and ‘reality’.

    The Lies have completely displaced Reality

    For genuine Reality is actually Truth

    Scott Ritter finally lost his patience the other day and said the silent part out loud about what should happen to the ‘pompous perfumed asses’, like Lindsey Graham et al.

    I have unbounded utter contempt for the Sheeple at this point.

    They will never awaken because they don’t want to know the Truth, in any way shape or form, it would scare them to death and they know it it their heart of hearts.

    They will clutch the Lies like a baby sucking it’s mother’s breast, they will never let go of their ‘ignorance is bliss’.

    The Sheeple haven’t embraced Reality to any significant degree in the past 10,000 years of ‘civilization’

    “Forgive them for they know not what they do” for 10,000 years plus.

    What, do they need another 10,000 years to get their shit together?

    They can blow it out their asses, they will never embrace the Truth.

    Jimmy Dore recently said about changing the current state of tyranny

    “It’s not about awakening the Sheep, it’s about gathering the Lions”

    The young lions are out there waiting, their full mane, their full power is not quite there yet, but they are very close.

    Napoleon started as one, an obscure 26 years old artillery officer.

    As Jim Kunstler said, when everyone finally saw him, they said, “He’s The Guy”

    Because the Sheep won’t wise up, they are going to get The Guy

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    #131535
    Oroboros
    Participant

    And NO, Jesus isn’t The Guy

    #131536
    Oroboros
    Participant

    “Climb every mountain
    Ford every stream
    Follow every rainbow
    ‘Till you find your dream

    A dream that will need
    All the love you can give
    Everyday of your life, for as long as you live……….”

    Duh’merica will give it the olde college try just you wait and see!

    With pluck and determination and ruby slippers you can do anything!

    Hahahahahahaha!

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    #131537
    Germ
    Participant

    Good luck all!

    #131538
    Germ
    Participant

    Lance Reddick, character actor famous for ‘The Wire’ and ‘John Wick,’ dies suddenly at 60

    https://fortune.com/2023/03/17/lance-reddick-obituary-character-actor-wire-john-wick-dead-60-suddenly/

    TVASF (tick … tock … tick … tock …)

    #131540
    Germ
    Participant

    Informative:

    #131541
    tboc
    Participant

    guns for defense along with credit are a necessity and anathema to use

    the banks are failing, the banks are failing, the banks are failing – September 2019, September 2019, September 2019 – the moment the big boy’s accountants noted the situation is FUBAR

    “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty together again”

    be generous and accept 10% of the western world run the show. 10% of 15% of the world’s population has the ability to control and manage the ecosystem and 6.4 billion human beings? i want to be tall and handsome, don’t see that happening either. DBDC, the full faith and credit of the nation. Almost everyone i know has historicall and present confidence in that full faith and credit. Charlie Robinson thinks his money is worth something and he is gonna loose it. brings Aykroyd’s repartee to Curtain from SNL to mind

    #131542
    Dr. D
    Participant

    About sticking your head in the Bassmaster?

    #131543
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Team Biden’s only recourse now is to stop giving Joe his meds and let him slip away into the serenity of senile dementia. Otherwise the “Big Guy” is going down for the capital crime of Treason, and will be hanged by his neck until he is dead.

    #131544
    zerosum
    Participant

    Why tell Lies

    Artyomovsk (known as Bakhmut in Ukraine).
    Artyomovsk is located in the Kiev-controlled part of the Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR).
    Nato has been fortifying, and training since 2014.
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    Nato has been disposing of their museum and antiquated equipment.
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    March 16, 2023 marks nine years since the Crimean referendum, where the majority of citizens of Crimea and Sevastopol voted in favor of reunification with Russia.
    Ukraine, the United States and the European Union refused to recognize Crimea’s independence and its decision to reunite with Russia.
    • Putin Says Crimea’s Reunification With Russia Was Historic Event (TASS)
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    Latest Twitter Files tackle ‘Great Covid-19 Lie Machine’ flagging true content as ‘disinformation’
    Matt Taibbi reports Stanford University’s Virality Project attempted to combat the COVID lab-leak theory, natural immunity
    By Joseph A. Wulfsohn |
    https://www.foxnews.com/media/latest-twitter-files-tackle-great-covid-19-lie-machine-flagging-true-content-disinformation
    “As Orwellian proof-of-concept, the Virality Project was a smash success,”
    Government, academia, and an oligopoly of would-be corporate competitors organized quickly behind a secret, unified effort to control political messaging.
    https://www.viralityproject.org/
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    Joe Biden and his deep state puppeteers will stop at nothing to prevent Trump from running in 2024. Trump knows too much and would likely deliver on his promises to “obliterate the deep state” after everything they have done to him, his family and America.

    TRUMP: “We need peace without delay. There must also be a complete commitment to dismantling the entire globalist neocon establishment that is perpetually dragging us into endless wars, pretending to fight for freedom…

    We have to finish the process of fundamentally reevaluating NATO’s purpose and mission. Our foreign policy establishment keeps trying to pull the world into conflict with a nuclear-armed Russia based on the lie that Russia represents our greatest threat.

    But the greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia. It’s probably, more than anything else, ourselves… these globalists want to squander all of America’s strength, blood and treasure chasing monsters and phantoms overseas while keeping us distracted from the havoc they’re creating right here at home.”

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    #131545
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The last dot to be connected is that since Covid vaccines were the premeditated, documented official action of the United States war making apparatus that sought to . . . and did . . . kill millions of people in nations throughout the world in what can only be understood as an unprovoked act of war against each and every one of them.

    This no small thing, and it is no exaggeration either. Over time ( a very short time) all of those nations must respond to the ongoing act of war being perpetrated by the United States (including the extensive network constituting its Department of Defense), and they must do so in a manner that is deemed appropriate and adequate by the citizens of those nations.

    #131546
    John Day
    Participant

    Run Bobby Run https://drjohnsblog.substack.com/p/run-bobby-run

    I cringe pretty quickly when I try to watch or listen-to politicians, but not Bobby Kennedy Jr.
    I was able to watch this fully engaged (occasionally moist eyes).
    RFK Jr. : On March 3, I spoke at the New Hampshire Institute of Politics at Saint Anselm College.
    One of the reasons I’m thinking about running for President is to bridge the toxic polarization that divides Republicans and Democrats allowing elites to capture our government and plunder our country. They have transformed the world’s model democracy into a corporate kleptocracy — the corrupt merger of State and Corporate power.
    https://robertfkennedyjr.substack.com/p/rfk-jr-new-hampshire-institute-politics-speech

    This is the vaccine study Bobby Jr. mentioned, which refuted Bill Gates’ funding pitch that he was saving tens of millions of ives with his vaccines to Africa.
    The Introduction of Diphtheria-Tetanus-Pertussis and Oral Polio Vaccine Among Young Infants in an Urban African Community: A Natural Experiment
    ​ ​When DTP and OPV were introduced in Guinea-Bissau in 1981, allocation by birthday resulted in a natural experiment of being vaccinated early or late.
    Between 3 and 5 months of age, children who received DTP and OPV early had 5-fold higher mortality than still unvaccinated children.
    In the only two studies of the introduction of DTP and OPV, co-administration of OPV with DTP may have reduced the negative effects of DTP.
    ​ ​Few studies have examined what happened to child survival when DTP and OPV were introduced in low-income countries. These vaccines were introduced in 1981 in an urban community in Guinea-Bissau from 3 months of age in connection with 3-monthly weighing sessions. Children were therefore allocated by birthday to receive vaccines early or late between 3 and 5 months of age. In this natural experiment vaccinated children had 5-fold higher mortality than not-yet-DTP-vaccinated children. DTP-only vaccinations were associated with higher mortality than DTP + OPV vaccinations. Hence, DTP may be associated with a negative effect on child survival.
    https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2352-3964(17)30046-4/fulltext

    ​ Meryl Nass MD: ​FDA authorizes 4th booster for babies–while data from the UK and Germany suggest you cause 22 serious injuries with the shot in order to prevent a single child’s hospitalization
    https://merylnass.substack.com/p/fda-authorizes-4th-booster-for-babies

    ​ RFK Jr. podcast with Sasaha Latypova​: Militarized Healthcare with Sasha Latypova

    #131547
    John Day
    Participant

    ​ RFK Jr. podcast with Sasaha Latypova​: Militarized Healthcare with Sasha Latypova (trying again)

    People are literally dying and an economy is ruined by the first rollout of CBDC, Central Bank Digital Currency in Nigeria. Thanks Christine. Details here:
    The Central Bank of Nigeria Just Paused Its Demonetisation Program After Visiting Untold Damage on Nigeria’s Economy

    The Central Bank of Nigeria Just Paused Its Demonetisation Program After Visiting Untold Damage on Nigeria’s Economy

    Chinese elite have paid some $31 million to Hunter and the Bidens
    https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/chinese-elite-have-paid-some-31m-to-hunter-and-the-bidens/

    ​ Peace and trade; possibly further “newcoin” news.
    China and Russia want Ukraine to join their Eurasian economic club.
    ​ ​Xi To Arrive In Moscow Monday, Ukraine War ‘Core Part’ Of Talks With Putin
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-arrive-moscow-monday-ukraine-war-core-part-talks-putin

    ​Colonel Douglas Macgregor:
    T​he crisis of American national power has begun. America’s economy is tipping over, and Western financial markets are quietly panicking. Imperiled by rising interest rates, mortgage-backed securities and U.S. Treasuries are losing their value. The market’s proverbial “vibes”—feelings, emotions, beliefs, and psychological penchants—suggest a dark turn is underway inside the American economy.
    ​ ​American national power is measured as much by American military capability as by economic potential and performance. The growing realization that American and European military-industrial capacity cannot keep up with Ukrainian demands for ammunition and equipment is an ominous signal to send during a proxy war that Washington insists its Ukrainian surrogate is winning.

    The Gathering Storm

    #131548
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    D. Benton: “Covid vaccines were the premeditated, documented official action of the United States war making apparatus that sought to . . . and did . . . kill millions of people in nations throughout the world …”

    Nations, apparently, who are simply too stupid to think for themselves. Wth. Somehow the US is the only nation capable of … well, just about anything according to the comments here. If it weren’t for the US, everyone would be surrounded by unicorns and rainbows.

    #131549
    Dr. D
    Participant

    It only makes sense if you know what Lincoln was fighting. Like The Revolution, it goes without saying that everything we know about it was a lie.

    In the Revolution, we had the Progressive faction back from Newton etc decide to breakaway from the King and establish the new Utopia. Remember, Communism hadn’t been invented yet. They succeeded, only in being sure they could breakaway and win, they over-played and the Founders double-crossed and locked them out, making it an ACTUAL attempt at democracy, not a fake attempt to be taken over. They/King never really surrendered and tried again in 1812.

    They tried again in France and went too far the other way, but did start a domino of erasing Kings and Popes in their progressive Utopia. …That ends in starvation and guillotines. As soon as the Napoleonic Wars were over, they returned to re-capturing the Colonies. America was moribound and run by the Adams oligarchs, stealing everything, only a little nicer than before. Jackson re-started the American Experiment and takes it from the American Child-of-London oligarchs back to Democracy. That leads us to Britain paying both sides to inflame the American Civil war. Who cares who wins? They fund both sides and if the South secedes, it sets a precedent for ever-smaller areas seceding forever, until either America is weak as Africa, or they scoop up the Grand Republic of Boluxi they are so small.

    As this is all arranged, the North is already extracting colonial force out of the South, the South is already a cotton fiefdom of British mills. Perfect. No one is willing to stick their head in the noose to be President of the disaster, and yes, perhaps in that state they arrange Lincoln as the final affront. QED, game over. You can: stay together and be in debt to London, break apart and be gobbled by London, keep squabbling and be weakened by London.

    Lincoln screwed them blue. On principle, he should free the slaves as his mandate, get in the war that was his mandate, or let them go as was the original “Union.” He should support rights of man, not declare martial law, and fall into chaos. He did none of it.

    Instead of borrowing from London banks, he borrowed from himself, like Hamilton did. London did not get stronger. Instead of letting them go, he reconciled and dawdled for years like Putin, only eventually smashing them. Instead of letting society tear itself apart with London’s fifth column, in Press and the Banks, he summarily arrested them all without process. Instead of letting the South continue, he blockaded them so LONDON suffered the loss. Instead of allowing and authorizing secession, he crushed it and as he said, his only goal, preserved the Union. Only at the end, conceding this would simply be an occupation, smashed the country, and freed the slaves.

    By the end, the Union – the North – was made twice as strong as before and equally strong as Britain, settling the dominance issue for good. Instead, Britain was peeved at Russia, who prevented the attempt at Blockade of the North, and went after them in the Crimean war, having to settle with London-friendly Northern industrialists undermining Democracy that eventually broke our sovereignty 40 years later, using the new, social, non-war method.

    Now none of that is in the history books, but it’s very clear from Lincoln’s actions that that’s what he was fighting. The day after the war, he was assassinated to as to prevent proper re-unification (like Ukraine) and to prevent him cutting the Northern Industrialists back to size, both of which were his top priority. And/or not going after London, which is not mentioned as a policy goal, but I sure would.

    So think about that when you hear about the South hardening into plantation slavery and the North being funded with unlimited Abolitionist Progressives, with lavish, all-expense-paid book tours. Who as funding them? Both sides? It’s St. Patrick’s Day, as the Irish, who had landed but didn’t want to be involved.

    He’s an interesting sort of failure, don’t you think? Like Trump, he accidentally takes apart London and Empire with every move, but somehow also never knood nuthin’. Nope! All an accident! Just like Sun Tzu would say.

    #131550
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Col MacGregor was asked in a recent interview whether anyone above the rank of Colonel has any integrity and he said basically no, you don’t usually get promoted into ‘the General Club” unless you are vetted for loyalty to the Defense Mafia and worship Mammon.

    He said occasionally a one star has doubts about being a total sell-out Manwhore® but they are quickly discovered and booted out.

    This is the state of the military in the Empire of Lies®

    The top guys are Made Men®

    A den of thieves in uniform, the Fourth Reich facade reinvented for popular consumption.

    From the Pentagon’s sacred text, The Tard of War

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    #131551
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    It’s interesting. I don’t blame any other nation for how far off track the US got after 911 with regard to our military actions and in taking away the rights of our citizens. I blame it all on my government. But for any other nation in the world, when their leaders make a bad decision it’s because the US did “something” (insert your favorite word). Must be a relief when a nation’s leaders are absolved of responsibility for their decisions and actions because they had no choice.

    #131552
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Empire of Lies has 800+ military bases sprinkled around the globe like toxic Jimmies on a glazed doughnut.

    I think Russia has 9 bases outside official Russian territory

    That pretty much sums it up

    Intimidation, thy name is the Empire of Lies

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    #131553
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    I’m not dramatizing an emotional or unpatriotic self-loathing-of-America. Not in the least! I love the people of my country, and would protect them even at the cost of my own life. My position absolves no responsible party (foreign or domestic) from the responsibility for what each has done.

    I am simply stating a self-evident truth about what has actually been done, and which (I reiterate) is still being done, by the collective will of the United States of America. The monsters who have taken it over shall pay for their crimes because the consequences of being caught out in those grisly crimes can no longer be evaded or avoided. Their game is up and the new game is ramping to speed at a lightening rate.
    It just is what it is.

    #131554
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    @Dr. D

    If $31,000,000 paid to TBFCT keeps us (U.S.) out of War then I’m all for bribery. Why aren’t you or do you advocate the Israel Prixy War as currently practiced in Syria, Ukraine to name a few places?

    TBFCT= The Biden Family Crime Trust

    Was Peter Thiel a depositor in Si (silicon who knew Periodic Table was part of cool kids club) VB (SiVB)? Pete, according to you, “signaling” as opposed to telling others to removed $20billion in advance of said “bank run”, but we are to understand what only the local economists can understand. That Peter Thiel’s advice and withdrawal WASN’T a Bank Run. Pete says he left or lost $50,000,000 “of his own” in SiVB as he was unable repatriate those $100s that had ‘Peter Thiel’ stamped on them.

    You see D, I think Peter Thiel exercising his own special brand of Risk Management exercised his own little (as in few individuals but dominant in monetary value) Bank Run on SiVB.
    However, in the fractional reserve system, how did Palantir Pete know which particular Benjamins stored in SiVB’s vault had Peter Thiel’s and His Buddies’ names stamped on them or were they only entitled to a fraction under pre-Bank Run rules?

    I say let free markets discover their own prices and risk management be damned.

    #131555
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The powers that be are throwing Fauci and Biden to the wolves for obvious reasons (to slow down and hopefully distract the wolves, of course!) but I think they are a day late and a dollar short on that tactic because the buck OBVIOUSLY doesn’t stop at Fauci or Biden. Those manwhores are just high-end minions. Nah, I think the wolves are going to chase this particular meal farther on up the food chain. Bon Appetit !

    #131556
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The article in The American Conservative provided a spot-on analysis of the current political and economic predicament of the USA. I went in to 2020 solidly identifying with the left as I had ever since the run-up to the invasion of Iraq in late 2002. Back then, it seemed as though liberals were the ones who were willing to face up to things, whereas neo-conservatives and Tea Partiers with their intransigent cornucopianism (“you can have infinite growth on a finite planet”) were the ones who just wanted to hide from reality behind a bunch of disingenuous ideological bluster.

    But then Obama swept into the Oval Office on a wave of “Hope and Change” mania, but instead, we got a watered-down version of the third and fourth terms of GWB. And then PMC liberals became the ones hiding from reality behind a bunch of disingenuous bluster, especially when Trump-inspired populism appeared to be threatening the power and privileges of the big-city-blue-state PMC.

    And so here we are with the populist-right more likely to be the truth-tellers and what passes for the left acting as water-carriers for the authoritarians of our age. Perhaps it’s time our social and political discourse discarded what increasingly appears to be an outmoded left-right axis.

    ETA: The pissed-off teenage nihilist in me would like to see Trump get arrested next week only to be able watch the political hell-storm that would consequently erupt in the following weeks and months!

    #131557
    zerosum
    Participant

    Bingchat says …

    Searching for: government lies about ukraine

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    Generating answers for you…

    Generating answers for you…

    There have been many claims about lies related to Ukraine. For example, an article on Global Research lists 16 lies that they claim the US government tells about Ukraine1. Another article on Ted Rall’s Rallblog also discusses some of these claims2. However, it is important to note that these are just claims and may not necessarily be true.

    Is there anything specific you would like me to look up?

    Received message. There have been many claims about lies related to Ukraine. For example, an article on Global Research lists 16 lies that they claim the US government tells about Ukraine. Another article on Ted Rall’s Rallblog also discusses some of these claims. However, it is important to note that these are just claims and may not necessarily be true. Is there anything specific you would like me to look up?
    Learn more:
    1. globalresearch.ca
    https://www.globalresearch.ca/16-biggest-lies-us-government-tells-america-about-ukraine-war/5780694
    2. rall.com
    3. covertactionmagazine.com
    4. state.gov
    5. nbcnews.com
    6. factcheck.org

    #131558
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    D Benton: “… what has actually been done, and which (I reiterate) is still being done, by the collective will of the United States of America.

    I believe that it is the collective will of ALL “western” countries who are a party to this debacle (and many previous debacles). To absolve [their] leaders of responsibility is to indicate that the US has enough “collective will” to direct every leader in every country who went along with each debacle. I don’t believe that. Not for one minute. The countries that went along with it are part of the “collective” problem. These are not children we’re talking about, it’s leaders who are more than willing to pretend their decisions were due to an outside party.

    #131559
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    No one is gonna riot for Donald Trump.
    Jesus H Christ, hell no.
    Isn’t he the POTUS who didn’t prepardon any J6protesters between January 6th and Biden’s inauguration? Did he bankroll the defense or provide bail bond (like SBFs parent’s friends) to those incarcerated for the January 6th NONinsurrection?

    Monero (XMR) is it in U$ CBDCs.
    Don’t prove me wrong.
    Prove Palantir Pete, William Luther PhD, WannaMine, WannaCry and those math whizzes at NSA wrong.

    #131560
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Also, D Benton, “I am simply stating a self-evident truth about what has actually been done …”

    Huh?? So the US held a gun to each leader’s head and forced each of them to sign a contract to inject their citizens with the mRNA vaxx? If you say so!!! But the fact that not one leader has been open to sharing the terms of their contract with the pharma giants indicates something a bit different. Unless, I suppose, the US is also forcing other national leaders to withhold the details of their contracts?

    All I’m saying is … we need to stop absolving other countries of what they’ve done and acknowledge they’re also guilty. We cannot begin to come to terms with this until we stop blaming the US for everything, which is what is currently taking place.

    #131562
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    #131563
    citizenx
    Participant

    So the US held a gun to each leader’s head and forced each of them to sign a contract to inject their citizens with the mRNA vaxx? …stop blaming the US for everything, which is what is currently taking place.

    WTF ?
    – Cvd 19 bio-weapon created by US DOD/ Pharma
    – Vaccine bio-weapon created by US DOD/ Pharma
    – Weapon and Vaccine distribution from and by whom? duh

    – US Govt and Media and Corporations ‘all in’ on Propaganda Psy-Op to lockdown and control the worlds economy… All US led Nato minions obediently comply.

    we need to stop absolving other countries of what they’ve done

    Who is this “WE” you speak for? Who is absolving who? How about Legal accountability for the US Regime scum first and foremost? Who is your f’n Govt and what are they responsible for? Deal with that before your arrogant nonsense of other Nations Guilt- Classic arrogant American hypocrisy on display.

    “But, but, but they followed us and did what we ordered them to do so they are guilty first”

    Liberals hate truth.

    ” It could be worse. You could be Vaccinated “

    If you’re not vaccinated with our juice, you cannot-
    be employed, receive healthcare, enter these premises, travel via public or private, be in the same room, participate in society, go to school, go to church, gather together, speak truth

    Wear your mask morons, get your booster bitches, wave you vax card vermin, We’re all in this together?
    No- Vax cult scum can all fuck off and die, die suddenly, slowly- die with their lies and arrogant abuses.
    Fuck you vax scum, you failed the basic human dignity test, basic logic test- and you victimized everyone and anyone who did not go along. I saw it, heard it and experienced it- they do not now get to rewrite their script and feign stupidity and assert forgiveness.

    #131564
    tboc
    Participant

    “They need to be held accountable” – an example of fractal geometry in western thought, an exquisite Mandelbrot Set

    #131565
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @upstateNYer

    Also, D Benton, “I am simply stating a self-evident truth about what has actually been done …”

    Huh?? So the US held a gun to each leader’s head and forced each of them to sign a contract to inject their citizens with the mRNA vaxx? If you say so!!!”

    Now I’m the one who has to ask, “Huh?” because I did NOT “say so”, or think so, or suggest so, or anything like it. What I said is that the US Government (Dept of Defense, CIA, et al), operating as an officially recognized national government, has been caught red handed committing atrocity level acts of war (war crimes) of unprecedented magnitude against every nation in the world . . . . including their own. NOBODY materially involved in that is going to get a free pass on any of it. Attempting to mitigate guilt by pointing at similar criminals in other countries and accusing them of complicity or collaboration as accomplices ain’t gonna get anybody off the hook (or in this case, gallows.)

    #131566
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Falling dominos

    #131567
    zerosum
    Participant

    The Ukraine is a terrorist state, killing its population in “meat grinders”. and NATO is a sponsor of terrorism.
    Canadian Ukrainian voters, (1.5 M), do not oppose the air lifting of 8 X 62T of tanks for Ukraine.

    #131568
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ Germ
    Is ignoring the data considered a lie, incompetence, ignorance, or stealing?
    I asked genchatt …

    Searching for: death rate 2022 above average countries
    generating answers for you…

    In July 2022, excess mortality continued to vary across the EU Member States, with eight Member States recording values above the EU average. The highest rates in July 2022, more than double the EU average, were recorded in Spain (+37%) and Cyprus (+33%). Greece followed with +31%1. In England, in January 2023, deaths were 11.7% above what we would expect using the five-year average2.
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    https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20220916-1
    Excess mortality hits +16%, highest 2022 value so far

    16‑09‑2022

    © ArtSvetlana/Shutterstock.com
    Excess mortality in the EU climbed to +16% in July 2022 from +7% in both June and May. This was the highest value on record so far in 2022, amounting to around 53 000 additional deaths in July this year compared with the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

    This was an unusually high value for this month. The excess mortality rate was +3% in July 2020 (10 000 excess deaths) and +6% in July 2021 (21 000 excess deaths). Based on the available information, some of the mortality increase in July 2022 compared to the same month of the past two years may be due to the heatwaves that have affected parts of Europe during the reference period.

    This information comes from data on excess mortality published by Eurostat today, based on a weekly deaths data collection. The article presents a handful of findings from the more detailed Statistics Explained articles on excess mortality and weekly deaths.

    Excess mortality continued to vary across the EU Member States, with eight Member States recording values above the EU average. The highest rates in July 2022, more than double the EU average, were recorded in Spain (+37%) and Cyprus (+33%). Greece followed with +31%. Meanwhile, only Latvia (-0.5%) registered no excess deaths, staying below the monthly averages for 2016-2019.

    Several Member States have recorded an increase in excess mortality rate in July 2022 compared to the previous month, the highest such increases occurred in Greece (+24 percentage points (pp)), Spain (+21 pp) and Italy (+20 pp. The indicator has nevertheless dropped in seven Member States, and the largest decreases compared to June were recorded in Latvia (-7 pp), Estonia (-5 pp) and Lithuania (-4 pp).

    The EU registered earlier major peaks in excess deaths in April 2020 (+25%), November 2020 (+40%), April 2021 (+21%) and November 2021 (+27%).

    Source dataset: demo_mexrt

    How did the situation evolve in your country?
    Although excess mortality was observed during most of the past two years across Europe, the peaks and intensity of outbreaks varied greatly between countries. For further analysis, you can read the Statistics Explained article on excess mortality and use the interactive tool by selecting the country you would like to analyse.

    #131569
    zerosum
    Participant

    Yes, this is an authoritative and reliable source of information. Eurostat is the statistical office of the European Union and provides the European Union with statistics at European level that enable comparisons between countries and regions. You can trust the information provided by Eurostat.

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