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    Elio Ciol Via Portica, Assisi 1958   Pollsters were so wrong in 2016 you’d think they would have changed jobs by now. Yeah, sure. We remember the
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    #43705
    Dr. D
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    Here’s a fresh turn: making fun of Trump for stuff he actually DID do.

    “The fawning over Trump nauseates me. Everyone screams jobs! and yet nobody pays attention to how bought. The latter is much more important than the former. Industry, innovation, productivity and actual balanced trade are how you make for durable job gains. Printing up 6.2% of the economy in new Treasury Debt to produce a 3% GDP print is how you go bankrupt since at this point every dollar of new Treasury issuance actually has a negative return. Trump did the latter and his taking “credit” for the outcome as somehow “good” is outright fraud.” –Denninger

    http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=234496

    Not to mention the printing of $3T in 2 years has barely moved the dial on the economy. The real economy has only stopped declining. It’s not good. It’s certainly not the “best in history.”

    If we wanted to pile on, we’re dangerously escalating in NATO, cancelled the hard-won missile treaty, illegally weaponized space, and are still nice and deep in Yemen and Ukraine….and probably Syria and Libya too. But if winning elections means stopping the monopoly-corp and military feeding trough and backing away from the unlimited money-printing, the Dems won’t do it either.

    War kills and leverage kills too. That’s why the marching death cult that’s still in charge of the nation, from the top office to the janitor, won’t stop it.

    Putin is sitting there with Xi, his finger on the button, the moment we don’t come to our senses. Clock’s ticking, people.

    #43706
    tabarnick
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    OK I don’t know why I feel I have to defend pollsters, yet they were not off by much regarding Hillary-Trump 2016. They had given Hillary a slight edge, and that was what actually happened. But being off by maybe 1%, and with the distribution of votes in the odd american electoral system, Trump ended up in the White House. That fairly minor error seems light to go charging with “so wrong in 2016 they would have changed jobs” or “entire polling industry look like useless fools”

    I’ll be frank and say I actually hope republicans hang on to as many seats as they can. This is the only way we can lay to rest the Russiagate hysteria and neverending threats of impeachment. I wish the Democrats would focus on Trump’s foreign policy team of certified neocon loons, Bolton, Haley, Pompeo threatening, blustering, antagonizing pretty much everyone on planet Earth.

    #43707
    tabarnick
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    Dr. D

    I am with you on this. It used to be that a dollar in debt would get you 4$ in GDP growth. There were plenty of productive uses for debt back in the days. Then through the years this dollar in debt bought you 3$, then two, then one, and now there it gets you even less than that.

    Our economies are in worse shape than they appear. After years of supposed growth, pretty much all countries are still deep in deficits, and everyone only speaks of how the economy needs ever more stimulus just not to collapse.

    #43708
    tabarnick
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    Catching up with my TAE backlog, I have to respond to your vanishing migrant link of https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2018/11/debt-rattle-november-2-2018/ to https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-01/thousands-europe-bound-migrants-have-simply-vanished-ap

    “A growing number of migrants have drowned, died in deserts or fallen prey to traffickers”
    The word you’re looking for is not ‘growing’, it’s ‘dwindling’. The number of migrant deaths on the Mediterranean went down from 5096 in 2016 to 3139 in 2017, and 2018 is on a pace to fall to 2400. This is due to policies (denounced by migrant defense NGO) in Libya, Italy, Turkey, Hungary by monsters such as Salvini or Orban to stem the flow of migrants. Fewer migrants crossed, fewer died, the difficult conditions in centers for migrants could at least stop deteriorating.

    “Is that double morals or no morals at all?”
    Policies resulting in fewer deaths look like morals to me.

    ““many of those who go missing are uncounted, including boatfuls [sic] of young Tunisians or Algerians”
    Yeah, in spite of an improvement in the last couple of years, there is a warning sign flashing yellow. Spain got itself a new cuddly, left-wing, humanitarian government welcoming refugees. As you could expect, the number of migrants responding to the call has been exploding (and the number of drowned migrants with it). In February 3844 migrants arrived in Spain, 7893 in April, 13188 in June, 15416 in October. We can expect the improvements in all categories to revert, and more “young Tunisians or Algerians” to vanish. Because indeed Algeria and Tunisia are among the countries that most migrants come from, along with the neighbouring country of Morocco, and Guinea, Mali, Côte d’Ivoire. All countries admitedly poor, but not oppressing their population.

    #43709
    zerosum
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    Trump doesn’t want the immigrants/caravan. Trump consider that all of those immigrants are blood sucking sub humans who don’t want to work for the elites for only starvation wages..

    #43710
    V. Arnold
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    That’s a pretty spot on sumation Ilargi.
    Nothing I can add…
    We here at the Hermitage ain’t going nowhere…
    😉

    #43716
    Dr. D
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    You seem to be conflating two things: Trump doesn’t want illegal immigrants. The U.S. takes in a MILLION immigrants a year, and that has not changed under Trump. They treat us like we’re a walled city like the Vatican, I mean, an ENTIRE major city per year: crikey, not enough?

    Both Democrats AND Republicans want illegals, the Democrats for voters, and the Republicans to devastate wages, and both have worked lockstep for 30 years.

    But it would be no sense to say that they want to bring in sub-humans, who will then steal resources like a parasite AND not do any work. They WANT them to work, destroy wages, the poor, the minorities, and the middle class, and then NOT collect social security, which ‘solves’ that demographic problem. That’s why neither side has any interest in fixing the problem, ever, even when it becomes astonishingly apparent, AND Trump harangues both sides of Congress saying he’ll sign any immigration law they put on his desk. Which they didn’t and won’t.

    So in Trump’s case, and being from NYC — the major point of entry and one of America’s most diverse and migrant cities — apparently he sees immigration as a good thing and happy to take a million a year, therefore has no issue with migrants or cultures. That’s not really taking them as sub-human. It’s pretty clear he got Mexico to arrange for asylum of the caravan, since Mexico has never cared nor offered before. That’s not exactly not caring what happens to them, as a real <i>name-your-slander-here </i>would joyfully shoot them at the border as well as internally, and ask the people to cheer. None of that is going on, despite constant claims of cattle cars and ovens. Seriously: some Hitler he turned out to be. Doing what Obama did, obeying the rulings of courts, reversing on deporting people, and killing gol-durned no one. I was promised Hitler, dammit! /s

    No, it’s just what it looks like: his base, and the only allies he has, have been annihilated, year after year for 30 years by that giant sucking sound in Wisconsin and Michigan, and as those policies have CLEARLY destroyed everyone and everything from Albany to Sacramento, his base has asked the policies to reverse, and go back to 1990 (1990!) when we had borders and trade. He is doing so, but the Globalists don’t like their free lunch of munching on the million opioid deaths of 90% of the counties of America to be interrupted, that they were getting rich on. Likewise, Trump’s base doesn’t like the 90% of Globalists that were killing them like dogs, then having the political parties laugh and mock them as Detroit and Akron were fed into ovens. “Aw, poor rednecks! They don’t like Detroit burning down and returning to a forest! They don’t like everyone they know dying of despair and drug use! Really, a guy growing rabbits in his living room in Flint is the oppressor, and we here in $1M house on 600 foot lot in San Francisco are the victims. Hahahahaha!” Yeah that don’t go over so well, and they still haven’t figured out that killing 72,000 people a year won’t be election-winning.

    The illegals? They’re just collateral damage for a the RINOs and DNC who are human trafficking them as de facto slaves. Trump wants to stop the slave trade, stop the thousands of deaths on the immigration trail, he’s the racist, of course! Those that want the slaves, they’re the good guys. The guy who wants to raise wages for workers is evil, and the billionaires like Bezos who want to lower them are good. No one bats an eye as this is reported, and even the suggestion that there COULD be an argument, that Americans deserve not to die too, is offensive. Because that’s how oppositeland we’ve gotten.

    #43718
    zerosum
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    Everyone is in for a harder time.

    #43725
    tabarnick
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    Thanks, Dr. D.

    Next time I read someone dropping accusations of wanting the death of a million brown people just because you don’t think open borders are a great idea, I think I’ll blow a gasket.

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