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D Benton Smith
ParticipantThat’s interesting, and perhaps even useful. Adam Schiff publicly states that he does not know what criminal is [quote: “if that’s not criminal then I don’t know what is.”]. That moral and cognitive disability goes a long way toward explaining his habitually antisocial behaviors.
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Participant“Is there a point to these distinctions without a difference? I’m confused.”
Apparently so.
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ParticipantAnd I’m talking about actually seeing.
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ParticipantThe best minions are those who already want to do what you want done. After that it’s just a matter of payroll.
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ParticipantIt has long been my view that the assassination of JFK was far more a deeply evil Psychological Operation directed toward the entire population than it was the removal of a powerful man who other powerful men saw as an obstacle to their nefarious power structure and agenda.
If all they wanted was a dead obstacle there were innumerable other safer and simpler and less “attention drawing” ways to do it.
I think the primary intent was to shock, traumatize and intimidate the national population en masse.
That it was CIA orchestrated and executed is beyond reasonable doubt. That it ORIGINATED at CIA is less certain, but probably not.
Considering the effect that the crime had on the sum total POWER of the nation (it weakened dramatically) my personal guess is that the source was external to the nation.
D Benton Smith
ParticipantA thing just happened which, although it has been publicly remarked, has not been sufficiently publicly acknowledged for its history changing significance.
TWO universally famous and broadly respected representatives of the civilian non-governmental population (Tucker Carlson and Robert Kennedy , Jr.) have stated as plain fact that the Central Intelligence Agency assassinated the then sitting President, John F Kennedy.
Their statements have not been denied, and both men are still alive.
The tide has turned.
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ParticipantIt has been remarked that, “We have never seen anything like homo post holocene.”
But then, it should be noted that since we ourselves are all PHYSICALLY homo “post-holocene” creatures, with only our selves deemed worthy of observation, it is unsurprising that each other is all that we see. Might maybe possibly get different results by looking a bit more widely and a tad more carefully.
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ParticipantThankee for the list & it’s a good thing because my guess work was off by 60% (I had two out of 5). It was clear you were speaking about the Commonwealth and/or 5 Eyes (the US has always only been a big colony with privileges) but I couldn’t suss out who was which.
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ParticipantAnyone who has watched “The Godfather” knows the meaning of ” An offer he can’t refuse” . Fewer people have given much thought to what it means to make “An offer he can’t accept.”
That’s the offer made when you want to force the other party to keep fighting, so that they can be destroyed without drawing down upon oneself the blame for preemptively attacking them.
The West’s ridiculous stipulations for a peace agreement ( “You give up everything and get nothing in return, and THEN we’ll talk about you giving up even more stuff”) was made absurdly absurdly toxic and unacceptable to ENSURE that Russia would reject it with extreme prejudice, and continue winning the Ukraine War.
During that time (during the inevitable crushing of Ukraine as a viable nation) the West will ramp up the rhetoric even further, doing it’s damnedest to frame Russia as a rapacious Asian horde descending upon Europe like the the Hun of ancient history. At some point near the end they will frame Russia by false-flag nuking Ukraine, blame it on Russia with the biggest propaganda blitz the world has ever seen, and preemptively launch a full scale preemptive nuclear strike on Russia from sea to shining sea.
That’s the plan.
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ParticipantPlease define the “airstrip” (1 thru 5) allegory so that I can follow the conversation without quite so much guesswork.
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ParticipantHenry Kissinger’s remarkably delusional peace proposal, aside from being ludicrous, actually provides us with something unexpectedly useful. It serves as pretty good proof that the West does (or attempts) whatever he tells it to. That’s a lot of clout for a 99 year old “Dark Triad” psychopath.
The key missing ingredient from his wish list is the complete absence of suggestions about WHY Russia would choose to do ANY of the things that Old Henry wants them to do. In other words, “What’s in it for them?” Is there ANYTHING?
Well, no, actually, there isn’t. There is simply no reason given for why Russia would volitionally choose to do any of the things that Henry’s “peace” proposal would have them do before they even sits down to the table, such as : withdraw it’s army, give up it’s reclaimed territory, allow Ukraine to resume genociding ethnic Russian civilians, invite a nuclear armed NATO to camp on his doorstep, forgive the 300 billion dollars previously stolen from Russia’s coffers to remain stolen without compensation, and allow his defeated enemy to rearm and resume its incessant assault on all things Russian throughout the world by restoring the hegemony of the now fallen US Dollar as world reserve currency.
Nor is there any explanation whatever for those absolutely astounding omissions.
One more thing that gets left out of the narrative is why anybody anywhere would or should give a flying fuck about what Henry Kissinger thinks is a good plan. Not only does the old bastard’s track record look worse than Caligula, but he himself is literally NOTHING, officially, but a professional adviser jillions of bogus trophies and a long long trail of blood.
And yet the West continues to do exactly what the decrepit degenerate reprobate “suggests” that they do, regardless of how obviously suicidal that taking that advice would be.
Why would they DO that?
Well, duh!, because Henry’s boss is also THEIR boss.
I would give a nickel to know who that is. Who (name and address , please) gives Henry Kissinger his marching orders?
D Benton Smith
ParticipantTeaching is impossible. All that can be done in that regard is to place truths in front of folks in hopes that they might trip over them and learn something for themselves.
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ParticipantTo individuals with NO immune system ALL pathogens are deadly. Think AIDS, “The Boy In A Bubble” , Democrats.
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ParticipantI scoff derisively whenever I hear of a thing, or a system, or a “solution” of some brilliant new product or weapon or strategy envisioned for the future that “WILL have” fantasmagorically wonderful properties , or benefits that “WILL be” far far far more effective than anything currently achievable with the OLD stuff being used in the tacitly inferior PRESENT (dismissively ignored as mere REALITY.)
You see the point, right? You do see the difference between the not yet existent future and the reality of the present, correct?
In all things, but especially on the battlefield, what matters is what IS brought to bear NOW. Tomorrow is too late because it’s always a day away.
The future is a murky messy iffy mess of probabilities. MAYBE one can bluff the competition into believing that a wonder weapon or vast reinforcement are on the way and will turn the tide overwhelming in one’s favor. And MAYBE the bluff is even based on actual things that PROBABLY will become reality in time to win the day. But that’s a gamble, and the stakes are your life, so bet carefully.
The questions I pose to myself when trying to sort the mendacity from the veracity are:
Who’s lying? Who’s lying more?, And, who’s lying the most?
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Participant@DrD asked, “You mean the loophole Jefferson closed when he said, “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” “Molon Labe”, motherf….. as The Christmas Movie “Die Hard” would say. WE are the government. WE close the loophole. If we can’t, then that’s that. Because WE are the government, ” ?
Yeah, that one.
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ParticipantThe trouble with allowing any parents to demand the inalienable human rights of their child is that if you let one pair of them to get away with it pretty soon everybody will want the same thing and THEN what ever will we do?
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ParticipantThe Founding Fathers’ strategy to attempt hamstringing endemic governmental tyranny was indeed creatively clever. By designing into the Constitution built-in checks and balances between the several main branches of government they hoped to use humankind’s baser instincts to nobler advantage. The idea was that the greedy and distrustful competition between the branches would obstruct any one of branches from managing to gather all of the reigns of power into the individual grip of any one of them. Keep the bastards at each other’s throats instead of at the the citizenry.
It was really brilliant in its core concept. Too bad that the concept overlooked an obvious loophole, and completely failed to address that shortcoming in the original Owners Manual.
The flaw was in the fact that it was in NO ONE’S greedy competitive and distrustful self interest to proactively prevent such a collapse into a fascist monopoly of power. In other words, it was in no one’s SELFISH interests to identify and block anyone trying to deliberately gather all the reigns into one set of hands by secretive infiltration and capture.
So THAT job didn’t get done, and sure enough, the inevitable resulted. A single power center now holds all of the official power, and most of the unofficial. It’s transparently obvious that the chain of command leads straight to the so-called “Intelligence Community” ( a mafia of sorts, operated under the summarily enforced, and lethal, rules of omerta ). Above that level things go a bit out of focus, but it does not take rocket science to see that the “Conspiracy Theorists” were ( and are) tantalizingly close to sussing it out. And brothers & sisters, the truths underpinning those theories . . . . at the very least . . . . are nastier weirder and than bat shit.
The so-called “government” and other “captured” institutions that would theoretically be used fix it are the very entities that need to be fixed in the first place, so good luck with that. Sure looks like a dogpack fight to me.
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ParticipantThe actual numbers for Ukrainian troops and equipment in the Battle for Bakhmut are impossible to determine at this distance, but rough estimates are still possible by simply counting up the number of brigades (about 10) and multiplying by 4000 men apiece. So call it 40,000 give or take 10,000. Safe to assume that their equipment is also ROUGHLY the same proportion. That’s a third of Ukraine’s total combat troops and hardware in the whole country. . . . and it’s a BIG country with a dozen places bigger and more strategically important than dinky Bakhmut . Those other places cannot be stripped of defenses too drastically without inviting Russia to just walk in and take them with a boy scout troop.
What this means, basically, is that the fight is NOT about or over a one-horse town in the Ukrainian boondocks.
The FIGHT is an existential last stand battle for the very EXISTANCE of the last significant Ukrainian forces still able to move around or do anything to oppose Russian encroachments.
Without MOBILE, re-deployable, forces Ukraine is constrained to defending a host of sitting duck targets that can each be encircled and laid to siege , one at a time, by the entire Russian army.
Long story told short: if those few remaining MOBILE Ukrainian forces are encircled and neutralized (either by capture or annihilation) then the rest of Ukraine is just a dozen or so pathetically indefensible “islands” that Russia can pick off at its leisure using it’s 20:1 numerical advantage in both men and weaponry.
In a week, maybe three, that’s what SHALL happen . . . . and there ain’t gonna be no “miracle of Dunkirk” to pluck them to safety.
Barring full scale nuclear war, this fight is all over but the burying, and there has already been too much of that.
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ParticipantIt feels like an attempted pre-frontal lobotomy when some smarmy pseudo-mensch tries to persuade me to be more tolerant of and less judgmental about people who lie, cheat, steal, gaslight, intimidate, cancel, poison, etcetera ad inferus). So NOT differentiating between lies & truths or theft & honesty is the best aspiration? And all this time I thought sanity was based on the ability to tell right from wrong.
Of course there’s always the upside. After the ice pick has done its job one won’t feel so bad about liars and murderers, or much of anything else either . . . . including the icepick.
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Participant“I see no reason to align with either or any side except I find the truth leads me there.”
Right. Sounds like you’re saying that you choose the truth end of the stick instead of the falsity end of the stick, and insist upon deciding for yourself which end is which.
I see no “false dichotomy” in that.
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Participant@FigmundSreud
When General Custer’s scout at Little Big Horn reported to him accurately about the overwhelmingly superior Lakota and Cheyenne forces The scout ( “Goes Ahead”) was not a defeatist, nor a traitor, nor a bad scout. He was simply a good, brave and honorable scout who personally fought the Cheyenne attackers bravely and helped many of Major Reno’s contingent to survive the battle.
MacGregor is not a defeatist, not a traitor and not a bad scout. And the way he s speaking truth to power persuades me that he’s pretty brave, too.
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ParticipantThe question was asked, “What would I call the current flocks of people divided into left/right . . . [etc, etc., etc.] ?”
Call them a dichotomy. The two poles of the dichotomy are connected, as it were, by a myriad of positions in a graduated scale, like a staircase, running from one end of the opposed pair to it’s ideological opposite at the other end of the scale.
Ideally there is a lumpen formed somewhere in the vicinity of the middle, in which case the situation can limp contentiously along for quite some time without existential mishap. But it can happen (when, for example, a Cabal is keeping the pot stirred by playing both ends against the middle) that the middle depopulates as it’s occupants are compelled to choose one end of the scale or the other.
When the middle becomes too sparse and untenable and one (or the other, or both) of the dichotometric extremes becomes too strong or incontestable (even if it’s delusional in that belief) then a kinetic conflict is virtually certain to occur. Which is what seems to be brewing up at the present.
The only haven at such times is the truth ….. starting with an honest to God decision about which end of the dichotomy is the right one to align with.
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Participant@John Day re compliant vs noncompliant personality traits
You raise very good points. I would add to them by hazarding a guess that the folks who establish and maintain true nations are largely (and ironically) predominantly noncompliant types.
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ParticipantMy goodness, @Oroboros, you are on a roll!
In fact, everybody’s coffee seems to be working this morning.
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Participant@ Formerly T-Bear Re: #123469 (etc.)
I figure that’s a good story, a good reference to the maestro (Sam Clemens) , and a good hint to not even think about ever challenging you on a maths quiz.
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Participant@FormerlyT-Bear
Dammit. Now I feel remorseful. I’ve gotta come clean with the FULL story of how I ranked top of my class in Stats & Probability.
Grades in the class were based on three mid-term tests and a Final Exam. The midterms would account for half and the Final would be the other half.
I felt like a hapless hopeless idiot throughout, and during the Final I felt even worse. I resigned myself to failure and just waited for the ax to fall when my test came back at 27% correct answers . I had done a little bit better on the midterms, but not by much. All questions were math based, to include all of the work sheets as well as the mathematically expressed answers themselves.
Imagine my shock when the grades were posted and I got an A+.
So, I went to the Professor and respectfully informed him that I did not understand half of what was on the exam and certainly did not deserve even a passing grade, much less an A+.
His answer sort of changed the direction of my life. First of all, said that since the course was about statistics and probability that all grading was done on a purely math based curve. Secondly he said that for this reason the Final Exam was designed in such a way that a perfect 100% score was as close to impossible as they could manage because they wanted to bracket the entire range of best possible to worst possible. And lastly he told me that I got the high grade and top position because that’s where I landed on the curve, and added, “You just aren’t aware of how badly everyone else did.”
The other thing I learned (many many decades later) was that anyone who would look a gift horse in the mouth and go back a teacher to COMPLAIN about getting an A+ grade was some kind of REAL WEIRDO.
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Participant@FormerlyT-Bear re: #123458 , #123460 , #123461
Not to brag or anything (well, maybe a little bit, and I’m aware I’ll pay the price for my bad manners) but he aced Probability & Statistics at Southern Illinois University, 1967, at the top of his class.
However, getting back to your point, I ain’t saying that figures don’t lie. I’m saying that once a really good liar starts writing those figures down the probability of his getting away with using true figures to tell a lie and get away with it approaches 100%.
And of course there’s always the possibility that the statistician is lying about the numbers themselves. He coulda just pulled them out of thin air (or some darker damper place) and the raw stats are themselves pure fantasy. In today’s world the odds on that aren’t very good in our favor either.
Jimmy the Greek won’t even touch the bet.
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Participant“Figures can’t lie, but liars can figure” – Anonymous
Just thought this might be a good time to mobilize a wizened old veteran.
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ParticipantNews Flash !!
Healthy, living, people who can still afford cars and fuel have more automobile accidents than populations who have been impoverished, sickened or killed by the clot shot.
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ParticipantWe live in a funny old world. A world where the most outrageously murderous lies (including the lie committed by silence) can be told with complete impunity, but where telling the unvarnished truth is to take your life in your hands.
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ParticipantAspnaz vocalized the problem pretty well when he said, “The farmers need to work out a way to fight against the contrived crisis. I do not know what that could be.”
The solution is one that we all know, and usually reject , on the excuse that it’s too simple. Simple to the point of being simplistic, or naïve, and to be brushed aside in favor of more complicated “adult thinking” type solutions.
In fact it is none of those things. It is merely courageous (which goes a long way toward explaining why it’s so uncommon).
The solution is to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God.
Don’t soften it with polite language, “redacted ” names, or carefully phrased euphemism. Just say it out loud . . . and to hell with what “polite” “normal” people think about you for saying such “unspeakable” things.
Of course you’ll be “cancelled” for doing it, but at this point I would ask what have you got to lose?
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ParticipantHe who must not be named or directly addressed must be having an exceptionally bad day.
Anybody can have a bad day, but statements like , “. . . 99.9% (give or take a few) of people will double down on anger, blame, shame, depression, and commiseration thereof when challenged to do the opposite. . .” is over the top even for the bummerest of bad days.
He don’t even believe it his ownself (or won’t tomorrow, after a good nights sleep) so shouldn’t lay it on everybody else. Makes him sound like a septuagenarian Eeyore instead of the eloquently snarky old asshole that we’ve all come to know and love.
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ParticipantI’s sorry. I just can’t pass up the chance to push the SBF ornithological metaphor.
Sam is the perfect stool pigeon: Guilty, stupid, scared and about to be cooked.
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ParticipantSam Bankman Fraud was not actually arrested. He was taken into protective custody . . . and I ain’t talking about HIS protection.
And the reason they’re keeping the jailbird in the cage without bail is not that they were worried about the risk of flight, it was the risk of song.
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ParticipantElon is now catching aWokened hell for tweeting out the word “Follow” and the emoji of a rabbit.
The lefties immediately leaped into multi-media frontal assault on Musk by re-circulating his Tweet to their somnolent hoard of aWokened followers, thereby spreading Elon’s message to tens of millions of ignorant people who might otherwise have just gone right on sleeping.
And to top even that astounding mistake, the hyperventilatting critics (as in ALL of the usual suspects) are dragging back into public view a raft of old scandals (Pizzagate, Clintons, Podesta, etc.) that had been successfully suppressed, buried and forgotten for years.
The whole debacle belongs in the text books as an example of how NOT to do propaganda.
I thought the Cabal were supposed to be PsyOp geniuses. They should have stayed awake in class.
Spreading one’s opponent’s message to your own people ( the TARGET market he was aiming for) is pretty close to being as dumb as it gets in the propaganda biz.D Benton Smith
ParticipantSpeaking about funny, I think it’s both funny and oddly instructive that the words innocent, ignorant and unconscious come awfully dammed close to being synonyms.
And that the difference between comedy and tragedy is not so much the presence or absence of those three things, but the relative degree of their presence or absence.
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ParticipantI am repeatedly flabbergasted by the fact that it’s same people who bewail the evils of globally centralized power and control who are the most apoplectic in their denial that those collaborating globalist/centralists are literally and actually doing any globally collaborative centrallized planning.
Howzat work, exactly? The WEF just suddenly POPPED! into hyper-hierarchical existence, only to find that their goals . . . . by pure coincidence . . . . just happened to be an exact match with UN Agenda 2030 (which in turn looks a helluva lot like what a dozen secret societies have been cooking up and promoting (INDEPENDENTLY from each other, mind you) for the past few centuries.
I think the denialists need to watch more Monty Python and pay more attention to what makes it funny.
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ParticipantMy favorite metaphorical fable is the one about the seven blind wise men examining the elephant. You’ve all heard it.
I’m the EIGHTH wise guy, who pisses ALL of them off by asking why is there a goddam elephant in the room.
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ParticipantIf there is one thing that everybody agrees on it’s that anybody who disagree with them is wrong.
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ParticipantGee, Billy Boy, you packed three lies into three three sentences. Don’t they call that a “Hat Trick” or something?
Don’t worry, folks, the Dore-Webb interview is just fine, and yes, organized collapse of civilization is being administrated by the intelligence community.
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