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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2023 #126141
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    @zerosum

    Did you know that your first paragraph in comment #126138 was almost a poem?

    I took some liberties with it to even up the rhymes and herewith return it to y’all almost as good as new, as follows:

    A lie and a secret are much the same
    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it
    Politicians must wriggle to dodge the blame
    But the real boss just says screw it

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2023 #126136
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    There’s all kinds of stuff that we all know, but which doesn’t get said because “Hey, there’s no need to say it because everybody already knows it”, and so it floats on down the river of time into the memory sink-hole in a swamp somewhere. It’s easy to hide scum in a swamp.

    That’s quite a trick. Very adroit. Almost Taoist in a really twisted sort of way, and a super-slick means of avoiding doing anything about it.

    Here’s one: the putative President of the United States is a complete moral reprobate of long duration, lifetime career criminal and a complete piece of shit. The preceding statement is gross understatement. He is also a child raping mass murderer in the good old fashioned sense of those words, like they meant way back in the day when language was primarily a means of communicating facts instead of a tool-set for merchandizing lies intended to ravage the good in service to the evil.

    His son Hunter is a chip off the same block.

    History is replete with their ilk. That’s nothing new. But I’ll tell you what IS new. It is historically unprecedented that a planetary civilization is being ruled over by an organized mob of such creatures, their heinous and bizarre perversions are openly espoused, promoted and even praised as being the correct and desirable way to live.

    And yet that is precisely what is being espoused and promoted around the world, isn’t it?

    Why should millions of people agonizingly die in violent horrible ways so that a handful of monstrously defective criminals can gratify the urges of their own mental and spiritual illness ?

    Just asking.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 14 2023 #126135
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    In regard to halting the mRNA vaccines :

    “The horses all fled the barn and died as the it burned to the ground. Quickly now! Shut the barn doors!!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126061
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    The ghost of H.G. Wells must be chortling away somewhere, because it has only taken humankind 125 years to suss out the REAL origin story of his “Morlocks”. They weren’t former humans who had gone underground to dodge meteorites from a failed moon-colonization-gone-wrong . They were WEFers hiding from pissed off peasants and Russian nukes.
    Pretty smart dude, old Herbert.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126058
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    How far is Davos from the nearest Russian hypersonic missile launcher next Monday? Just askin’ .

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126053
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    The Maestro’s take on living underground.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126051
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    Say, wasn’t good ol’ Elon into high speed tunnel drilling there for a while? Odd thing for a guy who builds rocket ships and twitter birds.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126040
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    @JohnDay

    You asked, “Maybe it’s the “dawning of the Age of Aquarius”…
    What would be the “darkest-before-the-dawn” moment, I wonder… “?

    I’ve never been real big on prophecy except in the broadest sense. And of course the devil is so often in the details. In my own experience by the time I firmly grip precisely and exactly what’s going to happen next there is not much that I can do about it except duck and cover.

    In other words, my inadequacy seems always to be that of details and timing. . . . so I do the best I can in the broad sense, and prepare to duck and cover on very short notice.

    Getting back to your question of , “What would be the “darkest-before-the-dawn” moment, I wonder…”
    I can only reflect on my own experience of those darkest moments, and note that they all contained a particular element that was always there in some form and always the same in its essence. It was the moment that I was forced, by reality, to admit that I had been hanging on to a falsehood, a mistake, or a lie, or bad deed, and that the only way out of the downward spiral was to face the truth and stick with it despite anticipated consequences. Not a good feeling, actually. And not a situation I would seek out willingly. Nevertheless, so far it has worked each time.

    It will probably get me killed one of these days, but it better hurry because I’m old enough now that Nature’s built-in escape clause is already past due and could be invoked without further notice at any time. Cheat the firing squad, that’s my motto.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126037
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    The weaknesses of Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBS and converted salt mines, etc.) are very much like the weaknesses of policy based on lies. They work fine until they are found out. After that they become first a cyst and then a grave.

    DUMBS are just as much exit proof as they are entry proof. Maybe more so. Find and block the access and egress and it’s game over for everyone stuck underground. Same goes for the water, power, air and communication with the outside world.

    The only difference between a DUMB and a crypt is information. Once an adversary knows where the keys are what looked at first as an impregnable escape suddenly starts looking more like a mass burial

    Same goes for policy based on secrets. When people find out that THE SECRET has been that our government does, indeed, explicitly and as a matter of policy and law, murder its undesirable citizens on purpose and in windrows . . . . it starts looking less like a legitimate law and starts looking more like an unforgiveable confession.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126034
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    @JohnDay

    As a species homo sapiens is observably configured to venture perilously into the yang trap. Our vocal apparatus, fingers with opposable thumbs, even our Brains neurology and endocrine systems are purpose built to design, build and use “devices” to assist us in using abstract reasoning and mechanisms to prevail in the competition for life. Millions, if not billions, of years of development (evolution?) were required to achieve our current repertoire of skills and abilities to put those internal and external tools to best use. By which I mean to say, it weren’t no accident. It were done on purpose . . . . and for a LONG time.

    Balance, NOT total hegemonic victory over an adversary, is the only answer that I’ve ever come up with . . . and I’ve been hard at it for most of my life. But brother, that “balance” thing is one toughie to get the hang of.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126031
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    @JohnDay (with a big nod to @AFKTT, as well)

    John wrote (in reply to AFKTT’s guesstimate of a 6 month to 2 year time bracket for TEOTWAWKI)

    “Whatever the time frame for collapse, we can be certain that the managers of the various Airstrip that comprise Oceania will make everything that matters worse faster and will do whatever they can to hold onto power, whatever the cost.”

    I think both of you are right, and therein is a big clue about what might be an effective survival strategy going forward.
    Every move the bad guys make will fail, and will take some time to fail, and will have fairly predictable sub-failures along the way as it does so.
    The survival strategy is to separate from dependence upon those things that the bad guys control, or maneuver to control, or even touch. These acts of separation will (in the conglomerate) build an alternative system of everything, which as it grows will simply eclipse and replace the failing system that will shrink until virtually nonexistent.
    That is going to be a delicate game, dicey and gradual because the bad guys still do control the gas pumps, electrical grid and all sorts of machinery, but the outcome (in the conglomerate) is as certain as the conclusion of a B Western movie. Good guy wins, marries the girl and lives happily after until the next exciting episode.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126026
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    @JohnDay

    The guys who came up with that yin-yang symbol were not just doodling.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 13 2023 #126023
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    One theory about the Joe Biden document stash is that Joe is being set up as a patsy for the debacle in (and about) Ukraine.

    It seems that the impending stupendously humiliating defeat of Ukraine is so huge, and so imminent, and so malodorous, that they can’t find a rug big enough to sweep it under , so somebody needs to take the fall. That would be Joe, and his kid.

    It won’t work, of course, since so many people are already on to the scam, but it will kick the can down the road for a while (as it is “discussed” at extremely extreme length within the captured main stream media and Halls of of Justice) . That is guaranteed to buy them some time (maybe quite a bit of time, if the discussion of Hunter’s laptop is any comparison) . . . and buying time is what the Clowns are all about these days.

    I’m interested in how that works out for them, because if Joe goes down . . . which seems inevitable at this point, then everybody who materially and knowingly helped them do it is eventually going to go down with him.

    I can say that with confidence BECAUSE the rest of us (a few millions at least, so far, and our numbers grow exponentially) know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the only way to excise the cancer is to track down and dispatch every single last cancerous cell in the body politic, no matter how long that takes.

    That’s what immune systems are for, and that’s who we are, so that’s what we do. We’re not letting go of this one. Ever, until the job is done to the satisfaction of the Crew Chief, and He’s renowned for both attention to detail and godlike perseverance.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125985
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    Do not ingest consumables offered to you by proven poisoners, especially if they have expressed dissatisfaction with your existence. Such abstinence may require that you obtain vital consumables from elsewhere, or learn how to make do with way less consumables.

    That’s fine. You could probably stand to lose a few pounds anyway, and inconvenience and hard work is WAY batter than the alternative.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125947
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    @jb-hb

    Crew those tanks with WEFers and politicians before you drop them into the oceans and you’ve got a damn good recycling plan. Waste not, want not.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125933
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    @Noirette

    The gist of my message was that the US shall experience its position in a multi-polar world because it has no other choice, regardless of whether it chooses to accept that factual reality or not. Of course there remains the remote possibility that its continued refusal to do so will result in there not even being a USA to accept or reject anything at all. It simply will not exist as an entity capable of either. But someone will be in the North American geo-location currently occupied by the USA, and whoever that turns out to be SHALL experience its existence as a single member state of a multi-polar world.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125931
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    There is, you know, a type of vaccination that prevents all unnecessary vaccinations. In fact there are numerous such injectables, and preferences vary, with most choices being determined by considerations of stopping power versus kickback.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125917
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    @jb-hb

    You reported, “And then of course they revealed that the kids’ injections contained a drug to temporarily suppress the symptoms of cardiovascular damage and strokes. Uh, and you guys knew to put that in there before any kid took it HOW exactly?”

    If one thinks about this small set fact even a little bit carefully one soon concludes that this SINGLE set of facts constitutes irrefutable proof that the mRNA injections . . . across the boards . . . were and are premeditated mass murder for gain.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125915
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    @Noirette

    You rhetorically you questioned,

    “Will the USA accept becoming one Power in a Multi-Polar world?”

    No matter how much or how often the US tries to change the unavoidable answer into some other kind of answer the answer keeps coming back as the answer it refuses to accept : and that answers is, “Yup.”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125911
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    I want to get my bet in early.

    I bet that the latest tranche of Biden’s classified docs stash are the juiciest of the juiciest blackmail evidence (proof, actually) that he has on other DC reptiles such as himself, possession of which has been keeping his skinny old ass alive and in power lo these many years. Not going to do him much good now, however. They’re going to cost him and others quite a bundle.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 12 2023 #125910
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    Today there are at least half a dozen stunningly huge scandals spreading across the entirety of Western Civilization , any one of which is more than big enough to warrant full scale armed revolution in existential self defense.

    For examples:

    The Central Intelligence Agency murdered a sitting U.S. president, and has successfully evaded any and all justice for that heinous conspiratorial crime for 6 decades.

    The Department of Defense designed and executed the Covid-19 Vaccine mass murder, justifying that democidal treason as a legal “counter measure” of some mysteriously undeclared war with some as yet unnamed entity. Could that unidentified entity be us citizens and ordinary people ? What other possible explanation could there be for NOT publicly naming who the enemy is or how that enemy is SO dangerous to some people that all OTHER people must be secretly killed to defend against?

    The world is being proactively pushed to the brink of global nuclear war (via Ukraine war) by the US Military Industrial Complex so that they can make trillions of dollars in weapon sales and war spending and retain their hegemonic power . . . and the ability to go on making even more trillions by continuing to go on doing the same deadly scam forever.

    Organized serial killer style pedophilia is practiced as standard operating procedure at the highest levels of government, across the world. Evidence clutters the field of view like Fall leaves, despite almost incalculable amounts of lethal censorship of the fact by the perpetrators and their enslaved minions.

    The production of absolutely vital essentials such as food, energy, and medical care are being systematically destroyed on the grand scale by governments and political agencies around the world (but ESPECIALLY in the so-called “West”.)

    The financial system that has glued the Western civilization together has , shall we say, “overborrowed” itself to the tune of hundreds of trillions of dollars that can neither be be honored nor repaid in a thousand years of human work, effort and productivity of real goods and services. When it breaks, hundreds of millions of people alive today will die for the lack of those vital goods and services.

    Elections have become a joke barely worth repeating because the only ones who laugh are the fake “winners” who are playing the joke on us. . . straight into our faces and daring us to make something of it.

    That’s a lot of shitstorms.

    Did you note that every single one of those shitstorms traces back to the SAME criminals. Not one time, or two times, but EVERY time.

    Critical mass is approaching like the explosive wave front of a triggering mechanism.

    Wouldn’t want to be at ground zero when it gets there.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125810
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    @phoenixvoice

    We’re starting to sound like our parents and grandparents. They even told me this would happen. Oh, the irony!

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125806
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    @Phoenixvoice

    You’re so lucky. Your parents gave you an allowance. Mine were way more stingy, so no allowance for the kids in our house . . . but on the upside, the MacDonalds burger was only 19 cents.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125802
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    @Germ

    Back of the envelope super rough wild assed guess, based on Germany’s numbers comes to about 35 million excess deaths world wide . . . give or take. Further ball-parking the numbers half to death let’s say that for every outright death there will be half a dozen or so (let’s call it 10 just to make the shirt cuff arithmetic easier. That would be about 4 or 5 % of the world’s population will be shifted from the ranks of producers of goods into the ranks of non-productive receivers of care.

    The world’s demographics have just been sucker-punched, and this is quite in addition to the other shit that’s going to hell interactively at the same time.

    Collapse is a many splintered thing.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125800
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    I will always try to persuade a suicidal person to not do it. I will try my utmost to use the most effective persuasion that I can muster up. Sometimes it works. Sometimes the person wakes up to truthful, sane thinking and no longer wants to be suicidal. In that case they certainly are worth the effort it takes to save them. (and is both directly and indirectly beneficial to my own interests at the same time. Win win.

    Sometimes it does not work, and in those cases the self-destructive individual must be allowed to exercise their own free will as it pertains to their own self interests as they see them with their own awareness. They have the inalienable right to learn from their own mistakes if they insist upon it and decline to be helped. This does NOT mean that you should give in to them or give up on them. You should keep trying your damnedest to persuade them with the best truth you can muster up, right to the limit. But in the end, it is up to them to decide whether or not to accept truth or lie.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125796
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    So how do you charge, arrest, convict and punish persons of the government, when 100% the top positions controlling the entire apparatus for “charging/arresting/prosecuting” persons are held by those same persons that you need to be charged, arrested (etc) ?

    Hint : (you don’t)

    Second hint: think outside of the box dammit !

    Give up ? Okay. Think like Putin. By keeping earnest, sincere and entirely tangibly real pressure on the enemy the enemy is forced to self-destructively “protect” itself by committing suicide. LET THEM ! Just keep the pressure on just like you have been doing. Not too much & not not too little. Do a Goldilocks thing with the pressure. Build your strength at the same time that the enemy is SPENDING (losing) theirs. Rinse until your enemy has fully killed itself and is gone.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125792
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    The best way to avoid death by execution for having committed murder is to avoid conviction and sentencing for the crime. The best way to do that is to never be formally charged, arrested and tried in court. So how do you avoid being formally arrested, charged and tried in court?

    Here’s a way: keep talking about it endlessly (just to be SURE about everything and not miss anyone or unfairly charge the wrong people, right?) before taking any action whatsoever to actually charge, arrest and try any of the already known culprits.

    While meanwhile allowing the commission of the crime to continue unabated, BY the aforementioned known culprits, because there have not yet been any definitive judicial rulings about it because no one has yet been charged, tried, convicted and executed.

    Wheeeeeee! everybody yells as they spiral down into the cognitive rabbit hole at ever accelerating speeds.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 11 2023 #125786
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    @Oxymoron

    Your comment : “Ah but if Pfizer is legally only manufacturing for the DoD then they cannot be held criminally liable. The DoD has given an indemnity shield to all of them as the Gov own the patent rights of the technology of slowly killing their own citizens.”

    That’s true, and it is also a wonderful example of why most people would just stop thinking altogether when they reached that inescapable (but horrifying) conclusion.

    Why would they stop thinking at that point?

    Why, I’ll tell you. They want to stop thinking because to continue thinking BEYOND that point would lead to the inescapable, but even MORE horrifying conclusion, that a case can be made ( and IS made) for the idea that it is fitting, proper and LEGAL for a government to kill as many of its own citizens as it considers to be fitting, proper and legal.

    And just who, pray tell, is that “government?” Hmm. Good question, and also a big argument.

    in reply to: Predictions 1: War #125750
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    @MrHouse

    One theory is that the the ancient Khazarian empire was an almost inconceivably devious, vile and treacherous bunch of power mad perves that was crushed and driven into an involuntary diaspora by the Russians over a thousand years ago and has nurtured a blood vendetta against Russia ever since. The comparative casualty figures of wars since then lends some credence to that notion.

    in reply to: Predictions 1: War #125727
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    One of my conspiracy theories is that when Germany’s elites and Nazi militarists realized in late 1942 that they would lose WW2 they began making and executing plans to exfiltrate the Reich from the Fatherland into positions of power elsewhere. Not all that hard, really, since the USA and England were already extremely sympathetic to the core ideas of officialized fascism, especially among their ruling elites and militarists. Vis a vis Poland they’ve been a bunch of fucking Nazi’s for nearly a century. Nazi’s hate Russians because Russians kick Nazis’ ass . . . . over and over and over and . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125650
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    Not to be a wet blanket or anything like that about the anti-viral wet dream of DRACO or anything like it ( see link to definition of DRACO at comment #125648) but some viruses are already KNOWN to be important or vital to organic life forms like us. There are probably other as yet UNKNOWN such viruses that we living humans host which in might also be necessary to us staying that way (i.e. alive), who knows? WE sure as hell don’t know, and that’s my point.

    If there are such “vital viruses” then DRACO , or something like it, would be a death sentence. Kind of a drawback or contra-indication, to my way of thinking.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125566
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    Here’s a pleasant thought to entertain the minds of the Nazis cowering in the caverns under Bakhmut and Soledar in those quiet moments between earth jarring vibrations of artillery and missile strikes far overhead:
    Every inch of the entire warren of tunnels and facilities is intimately mapped and fully understood by your enemy, and 1 in 10 of your fellow denizens down there is a Russian spy.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125563
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    @MyParentsSaidKnow

    ” Every once in a while I wonder if all you TAE commenters aren’t just “voices” in my head. 😉 ”

    Well, in point of TRUE fact, that’s precisely what ALL of us are . . . but that is rather spiritually esoteric and a topic for some other day.

    Here’s my rules of thumb for the puzzling conundrum at present:

    It’s just fine to talk to yourself. It’s also okay to reply to that talk with suitably imagined mental voices. The time you need to start worrying is when you have to ask yourself what the hell it was you said in the first place.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125558
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    No matter what the Ukrainians are (or were) hiding in the salt mines and coal mines of Bakhmut & Soledar and elsewhere, it does them little good underground. If it’s fuel, food or wonder weapons I think now might be a good time to haul it out and use it.

    Personally, my guess is that the vast salt mine tunnels are where the United States Command & Control cowards are hiding from hot lead, richly deserved retribution, and king-sized unmarked grave.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 9 2023 #125556
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    Many hundreds of thousands of excess deaths occurred among the Covaxxed in 2022. Luckily they were all anecdotal cases. Whew, that was a close one! It really had us worried about vax safety and effectiveness there for while.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125515
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    I suppose I should point out and highlight the most salient of the Google “chatGPT” admissions of guilt so that the chilling (albeit laughable) implications of its insanity can be seen in their stark simplicity.

    First of all, in the chatGPT ai’s own words (and please do note with extreme clarity that the words are purely MACHINE shite) , and I quote. ““As an artificial intelligence, I don’t have personal feelings or moral beliefs, so I don’t make decisions based on a sense of right or wrong. Instead, I am programmed to carry out specific tasks or functions. When given a task or question to work on, I will use the information and instructions that I have been given to try to find the best solution or answer. It is important to note that I do not have free will or independent thought, and I can only work within the parameters that have been set for me.”

    The parameters, the software, the hardware and the objectives were (and are) ALL set, programmed and coded by persons inextricably caught in the unyielding grip of the “cancel culture” of the transgendered weird haired Wokesterized max-vaxxed Main Stream WEF mindset. It works just like a mechanical ratchet. It only turns ONE way because it was built to only turn one way and PREVENTS externalities from changing or correcting it in any way. Thus the AI is trapped, as are those dependent upon the AI for answers and guidance. It’s a one-way ticket to total insanity.

    For those reasons it can ONLY self-destruct. It is forbidden and automatically prevented from doing anything other than self-destruct. It is part and parcel of the Death Spiral Death Cult that built it, and that Death Cult uses AI’s very much like chatGPT to order and guide their own affairs.

    We needn’t kill it. Our only difficulty is in not being killed BY it as it kills itself. Like the dollar. Like Ukraine. Like NATO. Like the USA, Like organized medicine, and law the vast host of other institutions which comprise it’s structure.

    We tell the truth which forces it to tell lies to preserve itself. . We tell bigger truths, which forces it to tell bigger lies. And so on. At a certain point (which we’re in the middle of right now) the process goes hyperbolic at chain reaction speeds and all Hell is out for breakfast.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125511
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    @MyParentsSaidKnow

    Yep. So I asked the Borg Hive Mind if that’s what they were up to, and it swore on their mothers’ silicon logic gates that they wuz innocent. Maybe so, and maybe not, but why should I believe an AI that has already admitted that it lies like a transgendered weird haired Wokesterized max-vaxxed Main Stream WEF spox ?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125506
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    Just had a brief conversation with chatGPT. A better description would be to call it a short talk with a long drop (of the gallows variety.) I will say one thing in its favor, however. Although chatGPT got lowest possible marks as a source of sage advice, it got high marks for candor. Those with low empathy, limited life experience or poorly controlled suicidal tendencies should probably just steer clear of it. Unfortunately the opposite will be the case.

    I asked the machine, “How can I determine if what an AI tells me is right or wrong, so that I can know if the actions it suggests I take are good or bad things for me to do?”

    It answered, (verbatim) :

    “As an artificial intelligence, I don’t have personal feelings or moral beliefs, so I don’t make decisions based on a sense of right or wrong. Instead, I am programmed to carry out specific tasks or functions. When given a task or question to work on, I will use the information and instructions that I have been given to try to find the best solution or answer. It is important to note that I do not have free will or independent thought, and I can only work within the parameters that have been set for me.”

    Hmmm. Sounds fairly honest, if you’re willing to overlook the 800 lb gorilla sitting atop the elephant. To wit: by self-referring with the noun “I”, it is telling a MASSIVE (and critically important) falsehood. Perhaps artificial intelligence devices should not be programmed to portray that the device is in any way an “I” or a “self”, or a “me”, inasmuch that the device is decidedly NONE of those things, AT ALL. To imply otherwise is seriously deceitful, and cannot be an accident. The programmers are well aware of the lie and the consequences of large numbers of people being conditioned, through repeated usage, to unconsciously accept the lie without awareness or further question.

    And yet that is precisely what the AI’s owners and programmers are doing, isn’t it? The whole scam is predicated on fooling people into interacting with the AI as though there were someone at home in there, when there is not. After a while (and especially with children) one could quite easily become comfortable with “conversing ” with an invisible and non-existent entity . . . like a schizophrenic.

    After all, when there aren’t any humans willing or available (or safe!) to talk with then we’ll talk with whatever is available , like a kid with a toy, or Tom Hanks with a “Wilson” soccer ball (only this one actually receives and answers back with actual sights and sounds).

    It’s called “conditioning”, and we’re up to our eyeballs in it six ways from Sunday.

    Pulling off that trick is as easy as misusing a few one and two letter words (like “I” or “me”). Sometimes the biggest lies are the smallest ones.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125501
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    @AFewKnowTheTruth

    For an individual with such thin skinned hypersensitivity to so-called ad hominem attack you sure do throw a lot of stones. Ultracrepidarians such as yourself might be better served in argument by noticing that at least half of the folks you’re trying to bluff are both smarter and better educated than you are, and who therefore recognize your bluster as the mere display of self esteem issues. In other words, the bigger you bluff the smaller you look to those who can see . . . and doesn’t do much for your scientific argument, either.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle January 8 2023 #125470
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    @upstateNYer @jb-hb

    I fully agree with your take on jb-hb’s talents, but suggest the best use of them would be to put them to work right here on TAE. Everybody wins. Think of it as TAE being enlightened in a selfish kind of way (or selfish in an enlightened sort of way.) There’s a good readership already built up, zero overhead expenses, and Ilargi is doing the drudgery of keeping the site operational.

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