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  • in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96376
    D Benton Smith
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    @chris_gee

    Your argument ignores the most salient and crucial axiom of all medicine, all law, and all ethical systems : that the most fundamental criterion for right and wrong is based upon the instrinsic value of life itself. There is nothing, literally no thing at all, more valuable than the value of life. All other values derive from that one, and are subordinate to it. Your so-called euthanasia ( “good” death) places a whole basket of lessor, worthless or even inverted concepts as being of comparable or even overriding value. Nonsense on the face of it.
    The reasoning supportive of euthanasia is absurd to the point of proactive evil. Its promoters and practioners could , however, start with themselves as ;proof of concept’ examples of what a great idea it is. Then if that works out well for the rest of us we will express our appreciation by carving something grateful on the volunteers’ gravestones.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 27 2021 #96372
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    As the volume of shit hitting the fan increases there will be more (and more easily seen) instances of scenario #1 and scenario #2 playing out in public view.
    Scenario #1 : people with inordinate quantities of too much stuff will be caught up in violent efforts to protect and keep that “wealth” from folks who need or want to take it without permission.
    Scenario #2 : people fatally deficient in stuff (like food, shelter and know-how) will be caught up in violent efforts to take that stuff from people who don’t want to let them do that.
    Both parties in both scenarios will therefore be directly in harms way . . . not a strategically advisable position to strive for.
    Don’t fall for or get trapped in either of those scenes. Seek the middle way. Have or make the stuff you’rre going to need, and/or learn how to do so . . . and then share / exchange those assets and skills with like minded people, even if you have to go find such people somewhere else. Strive for the MIDDLE, which becomes harder and harder to reach as conflict pushes folks to one or the other of the two extremes (greedy selfish armed guards vs starving desperate thieves). The middle becomes the only place where survival is likely, but is simultaneously the hardest place to get to.
    There’s not a lot of time left to pre-set the conditions for the one you want.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle Boxing Day 2021 #96311
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    So it seems that Canada ( Hi there Trudy , baby ! You uselessy effete quasi-decorative department store gender neutral clothing department mannequin) has spent the last couple of years tracking every single cell phone in the whole damned country. Which accomplished pretty much fuck all except an overwhelmingly ordinary sort of run-of-the-mill dystopia whose only real distinction was it’s utter lack of anything that might set it apart from any of the other covid dystopias. Even itsy bitsy New Zealand showed more entertaining originality in its attempted evilness. Canada might as well have been hibernating.

    And the moral of that story is that all of the information in the world, and the mightiest AI algos, are pretty much a waste of time when there is no consciously aware human mind making useful sense or use of it. In other words, even the most pervasive surveilance and powerful AI’s make LOUSY tyranical dictators. Apparently even evil requires a certain amount of self aware concscioussness and creative thinking. Otherwise it just runs like an old refrigerator full of old Holiday feast leftovers. . . slower and ever-less-efficiently until it just stops from lack of maintenance or interest.

    You can imagine what the contents of the fridge look like by that time.

    in reply to: An Open Letter to Friends #95832
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    For the most part, and for most of the time, individuals simply don’t give a shit about the tribe or the species . . . because they’re neccessarily too busy taking care of business for themselves and their tiny cohort of family and close friends.

    Now there is a challenge to the tribe ( AND the species ! ) and suddenly humans wake up (SOME of them, PARTIALLY) to the hard cold fact that Mother Nature doesn’t give a shit about them OR their species and is perfectly fine with just rubbing out the entiree lot in the blink of a “pandemic” (of one sort or another, be it viral, cognitive or spiritual matters not at all).

    One thing that is crystal clear to me, and that is that species do not last, and that the current one is smack in the middle of its own E.L.E. and not doing so well. A new virus (let’s call it MoroniCon) is sweeping through the herd so fast that even the vaunted Internet cannot even track it. Will Homo Sapiens Sapiens survive ? Sure don’t look like it. Looks instead like roughly half of them are fixin’ to kill the other half . . . which by my mathematics is two halves equals one whole.

    In which case there will soon be a new dominant species, which may or may not be of the family Sapiens or even the genus Homo . . . because the current iteration of “Big Dog of Life Forms of Earth” . . . has proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that as a species it is just smart enough to get into extinction level trouble , and not even close to being smart enough to get out of it.

    Don’t worry one little bit. Mom will fix it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle December 20 2021 #95738
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    Murder is evil. Suffering murderers to operate freely is stupid. The evil are currently murdering the stupid. Neither of those conditions is completely avoidable, and restoring balance between them is going to cost a lot of blood.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle November 24 2021 #93476
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    In my opinion Australia’s Michael Gunner is the sort of bloke who would personally order killings out of self righteously hot blooded anger. Better keep an eye on that one, mates. He is very close to the snapping point.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 21 2021 #90540
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    Have y’all heard the latest about Facebook’s intended makeover? It has been more than rumored recently that Zuckerberg, having totally shit the bed of social media, now wants to hastily move on to bigger things ( and away from the retribution which he and Facebook so richly deserve) before the posse of public opinion catches up to him like a mob with a rope.
    Hey, I’ve got an idea ! His dreamed of rebranding of Facebook into “Metaverse” could include providing augmented reality services for the hundreds of millions of permanently physically disabled people left in the wake of his foray into Covid-19 experimentation. Those victims probably couldn’t make it out of their convalescent beds to join a necktie party anyway, so instead they can lay there trying to breath, while wearing the his new AR gear to imagine a brave new Virtual world, and pretend to be actually alive like they were before the Zuck and his psycho- buddies turned life into hell.
    I’m reminded of the tired old joke that to err is human, but to really screw things up you need a computer. It should be updated to read, “To err is the new normal, but to FUBAR you need a network, with Mark Zuckerberg in control.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle October 3 2021 #89082
    D Benton Smith
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    If you’re wondering about the peculiarly “wholistic” nature of the evils that have been assaulting us lately (and how literally EVERYTHING seems to have been weaponized against any and all divergences from the so-called “narrative”) consider THIS:

    The very act of collaboration itself has been weaponized. For example, If you cooperate with others to achieve some worthy goal like clearing a little piece of jungle for your small tribe to grow enough sweet potatoes to feed yourselves, then by that action alone your tribe is infringing upon the staked-out territory of Monsanto, Archer-Daniel-Midland, and General Mills . . . who reckon that THEY are to be the sole provider of food to the planet. And those food giants will do more than just bull-doze and criminalize your little plot of taters. They will use the power of their institutions ( Law, Media, Military, Finance, and Governance, etc.) to prevent your tribe from even PLANNING to grow sweet potatoes. The act of constructive collaboration (itself) is thus made illegal . . . because it is that human-to-human communication and cooperation that is the real threat they perceive to the power of their hegemony.

    PEOPLE (common human beings simply being and doing what human beings naturally do) , are seen as the literally hated competition. And competition is the thing which no monopoly can long endure.

    A little organization for the common good is a good and necessary thing. It is “No man is an island” kind of stuff. But too much of that good thing does seem to be a bit too much.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 27 2021 #88360
    D Benton Smith
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    The only way we escape from the jackboot face stomping we’re experiencing from the Authoritarian Control Structure (that WE built !) is for those sane Authoritarian Control Structures to lose their authority and their control . . . which is going to leave the world in an uncontrolled state, generally lacking in things like authority and structure. Out of the frying pan and into the fire. No wonder no one is in a big hurry to kick that ball rolling. Chaos is so, I dunno, chaotic.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 23 2021 #87866
    D Benton Smith
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    Can you feel it ?

    I do.

    The “Everything Bubble” (and I mean Power, and Hubris as well as Money and “Assets”) is about to pop.

    It already has, actually . . . elsewise these words would not even be happening.

    Indeed, we can SEE thst it has popped, and we are now just waiting for the sound to arrive, like the blast wave following a distant nuclear explosion. (sight and that light waves it’s based on is always quite a bit faster than sound and the shaking of “solid” foundations).

    If some wight of the mighty happens to be reading these lines for amusement while waiting to receive yet another trainload of unearned riches and/or power let me impart a word to the unwise :

    Duck and cover, motherfuckers. The peasants are coming. And that means you are going away.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 21 2021 #87732
    D Benton Smith
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    I hear that there are going to be quite a few Navy Seals looking for work after the Navy fires them for not committing suicide.

    If they’re looking for a new gig , or even to just keep the skills honed, they could do worse than taking out a few thousand of the elites.

    in reply to: I Am Afraid #87409
    D Benton Smith
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    Before calling upon higher ups to smite thine enemies, first consider that such a plea invests them with both the power and the permission to smite people. That might not feel so good if they later decide to use that smiting-power to smite YOU, too.

    in reply to: I Am Afraid #87407
    D Benton Smith
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    Look at the world situation from a money and power viewpoint. Strictly business. Ignore emotions for a moment.

    Every asset of every kind has been , long ago, vacuumed up and involved in the “Everything Bubble” . . . which is a Ponzi Scheme that has run out of new suckers to swindle with false promises. There is no property, no possession, nor business or powerful institution that is not mortgaged, and “Re-hypothecated” to infinity and beyond. Their exist thousands upon thousands of frothing starving bubbles within bubbles . . . and they have all run out of new victims to bilk . . . without resorting to brute physical force at the point of a gun.

    Because when the money fails it ALL fails, and right now the money people believe that the continued flow of money must flow to them through the needle of a Covid injection.

    The holders of power large and small can hold onto their power ONLY by compelling your continued contribution to the “all-things bubble” that they depend on. . . or else all of those bubbles and sub-bubbles will chain-reaction-collapse . And when the bubbles pop the power will be gone. It shall simply be no more, and its victims will extract a swift and brutal revenge.

    It don’t take no AI or quantum computer to figure that one out. . . and both sides know it.

    in reply to: I Am Afraid #87404
    D Benton Smith
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    I could probably survive their spike protein, at least for a while,  but the vaxxsassins’ IDEAS kill on contact.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 16 2021 #87320
    D Benton Smith
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    Mr. Global WANTS the economy to collapse suddenly and dramatically, because that is when people will do ANYTHING to be able to purchase the necessities of life. After a week or so of no food, gas, rent or electricity they will not just accept a cashless society with magical relief money piped into their cell phone . . . they will demand it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 14 2021 #87133
    D Benton Smith
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    I recommend that instead of Covid-19 Contact Tracing, that we instead implement psychopathic ant-social directives and propaganda tracing.

    It would be useful and instructoive to see what the SPECIFIC (names named) Chain Of Command is on all of the bullshit that’s been pouring down through the channels of Power this past couple of years.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 12 2021 #86985
    D Benton Smith
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    The Mathematics of Mercy.

    Are gullibility and submissiveness heritable traits ? If they are then it’s good news for the species, because (if that is the case) then the vaccines are culling fools and cowards from the genome in great withering swathes. With submissively gullible minions cleared from the field I think the smarter braver cohort, the survivors, with their greater and more indomitable ability to survive, will swiftly and conclusively deal with the handful of psychopaths who started this. . . and with minimal ceremony.

    The mathematics of mercy is that math has no mercy. It’s just numbers.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86867
    D Benton Smith
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    @Veracious Poet

    ref: ” The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, which obliges every one . . . ”

    Take heart. The resolution to your distraught emotional state is right there in Locke’s observation. The state of nature has a law to govern it. He isn’t saying that the Universe has a propensity, or guidlines, or tendency. He is observing that it is governed (and I would add the words “with an iron hand and no exceptions” ).

    In other words, the bad guys are not going to get away with ANYTHING. They are as governed by nature as everyone else. This means (amongst many other things) that their blindness to truths, obliviousness to the value of others, and disregard of inevitable consequences does not actually alter the true state of nature . . . which simply IS what it it IS. Truth is still true. Others continue to have value, and consequences shall occur whether they think they will or not.

    This is not the end. It is not even the begining of the end. Stay tuned.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86826
    D Benton Smith
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    So “The Powers That Be” tell you that you are too dumb to make your own decisions and so they will make them for you? That’s just plain silly ! Of COURSE you make your own decisions, including the decision to tell them to go piss up a rope.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86824
    D Benton Smith
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    Your decision to concede to some other authority the right to make your decisions . . . is a decision, and you cannot avoid the consequences.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86822
    D Benton Smith
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    Therefore it is imperative, for your successful survival, to inform yourself with true information . . . the truthfulness of which is ALSO fully, and only, your own responsibility to determine.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 10 2021 #86820
    D Benton Smith
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    It is simply and logically impossible to avoid being 100% responsible for the consequences of your own decisions.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 9 2021 #86707
    D Benton Smith
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    Napolean is said to have said , “Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.”

    What I see is a pan-global power structure that is absolutely adament about masking, vaxxing, medically abandoning, and firing THE MAJORITY OF COMPLIANT AGREEABLE PEOPLE WHO CONSTITUTE THE BASE AND SOURCE OF THE POWER STRUCTURE’S POWER. They are literally killing the geese who lay those golden eggs. They’re cutting off the tree branch that they’re sitting on. (add as many metaphors as you wish. There are plenty)

    Since these genius elites go purple faced apoplectic if you even SAY that you might interrupt their ongoing suicide , then I say “FINE ! Finish what you started. It’s going to be a lot safer and quieter around here when you’re done. Too bad so many gullible slaves are going with you. We’ll save as many of them as we can. . . but they are AWFULLY gullible.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 9 2021 #86699
    D Benton Smith
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    Power is very much like a Ponzi Scheme. It exists ONLY because the many give to a few . . . and for worthless bullshit reasons which only look good in the first place because the suckers want the same thing.

    Power and Ponzi schemes always end the same way , too . They end when they run out of suckers. They end when the suckers wake up and realize that they got NOTHING (no power, no wealth, no nada) back to theirgreedy selves in exchange for all of the power and money they paid “upwards” in their vain and stupid delusion that they could ultimately get more out of something than they personally put into it.

    The old “something for nothing” scam. . . writ large. Well, not in THIS Universe, boyo !

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 9 2021 #86697
    D Benton Smith
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    Making everyone wear a mask is just one more way for the Power Elites ( who , by definition, head-up the top layers of virtually ALL of society’s insitutionalized power structures ) to tell everyonbe else to just shut up.

    Censorship is another way.

    But the be-all end-all is mass murder.

    To disagree with what THEY say is the one and only right way is a capital offense. Their motto is “My Way or No Way .”

    When a human mind reaches that stage of “selfishness” it is officially insane . . . and extremely dangerous . . . because it sees others as having no value or validity whatsoever.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle September 8 2021 #86648
    D Benton Smith
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    @ the flacidista

    Your persistance reminds of that scene from “When Harry Met Sally” where the pathetic old perv in a trenchcoat exposes himself to Sally. She’s barely even distracted and just comments offhandedly. “Huh! Looks just like a penis, only smaller.”

    Kind of like your efforts to troll us.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 30 2021 #85836
    D Benton Smith
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    @chettt ref : ” So this is what we’ve come to. ”

    Yes. So far . But remember that there’s quite a bit more to come before we get to the destination.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 30 2021 #85832
    D Benton Smith
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    Here is a super tough question. It very probably pertains DIRECTLY to why the rulers and elites are apparently trying to kill off a bunch of us, so it’s NOT off-topic or meant to be sarcastic or snarky. It is asked in earnest :

    ” Why do you think that other people should agree with your solutions, and see the world the same as you do? Why not the other way around ?”

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 29 2021 #85760
    D Benton Smith
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    A human being can be aware of its own ignorance. We can know that there is something that we don’t know and want to do something about it. It’s called curiosity.

    Machines cannot do that, because there is “no one home” capable of wanting anything. Thus, no curiosity. No matter how closely a machine imitates or emulates the actions which characterize curiosity, the inescapable fact remains that there is no actual curiosity existing therein.

    It should be clear by now to just about everyone that the forces of evil over there in the wilds of Davos and Silicon Valley are running their entire campaign as an Artificial Intelligence operation (with the help of the good folks at Google , CIA, Baidu, WEF and so on) . The sophistication and fine-grain predictive accuracy of their Event 201 covid pandemic simulation showed you everything you need to know about their level and degree of preparedness and attention to forward running prediction. They’ve been working out and war gaming this thing for a LONG time.

    In other words, their AI knew a lot more than we thought it did about pulling off the Big con. That first trick they pulled was a masterpiece. Nevertheless there are a lot of things that their AI doesn’t know, too. And due to its complete lack of actual curiosity it will never make an effort to find out.

    The same can be accurately said about the empty head hubris infected elites who are using that AI like a bludgeon right now. They reckon they don’t have to really know anything because experts and computerized artificial intelligence models will do all of that for them. Wrong! It won’t.

    In an ironic sort of way , the bad guys are the first Trans-Humans : They are a melding of human bosses and computerized artificial intelligence algorithms which do most of the thinking and decision making for them, the AI’s living masters. The quasi-organism created by this symbiosis is , of course, mentally ill. In fact its a classic paranoid schizophrenic with antisocial traits, but that’s beside the point.

    There’s something else that an AI literally can not know. It can not contain that which no one puts in. Computers can not calculate with data that is not put into them in some way. No data in equals no data out, so that means that AIs are utterly oblivious to ALL data except the teensie weensie microscopic little bit of data that it’s designers and operators allow for. Stuff like all of your cell phone’s everything is easy. Data like why you love being alive and free is quite a bit harder to digitize and steal. Therefore AI has none of that.

    Because its data is so faulty it’s answers will be faulty too, and its solutions for addressing the consequences of those faults and mistakes will also be wrong. And yes, it does go exponential pretty quickly. That’s the chaos we see rising at such alarmingly accelerating rate across the globe. Classic feed-back loop.

    In other words, the forces of evil in this case have a built-in fatal flaw that’s unwinding it like a dirvish: The electronics based artificial intelligence modeling that they (our rulers) depend on for REALITY, is itself totally oblivious to reality. An AI can calculate using the faulty data that it is fed. . . and that’s all.

    Of course as new data arrives ( such as “How mad ARE those peasants whose kids we just lured to their deaths ?”) that new data gets fed right back into the AI , which then re-calculates possible solutions and predicted outcomes and issues the next set of instructions. The elite translate these proposals into operational commands and faithfully send them down through their various institutional chains of command as orders. And there ya go. Every employee knows what flows downhill.

    These would-be demigods are as “trans human” as it is currently possible to be, but don’t worry. They’re working hard to make it as worsely possible as possible, as quick as they can.

    Their reach extends not one inch further than the bureaucratic institutions that they own from the top down. Beyond that they are cripples. Beyond the tips of their spears they are absolutely powerless. And the clarity of their world view is as fuzzy and limited as what the AI tells them it is. Beyond that they are blinder than bats.

    So here is a temporary two part work-around :

    1. Just keep putting truths out there and repeated as broadly as you can and as often as you can, because the AI modeling and proposed solutions MUST try to stop it, and every time it succeeds it creates a new opponent. In other words, use the AI’s automaticity as a weapon against it. If undesired truthful information continues to be circulated outside of their control, then they will feed that unacceptable situation into the AI calculation the derived solution will include more lies and censorship, and make new opponents. It’s a computer based program. It has no choice.

    2. Continue building whatever you feel like building, but build it OUTSIDE of the dwindling authority of the captured and dying institutions. If you’re a doctor, for example, then just go on being a doctor. SCREW the license. If that means you’re going to need legal help then hire a disbarred lawyer. You get the idea. Just go on living until further notice.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 27 2021 #85560
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    @raul Ilargi meijer

    ref: “ Would like some input. Will soon have to address the question: “What are governments et al going to do when they can no longer avoid the fact that the vaccines don’t work?” The PHE briefing referenced in the last two Debt Rattles make this very clear: “Vaccine Effectiveness 15% in the Over-50s, 37% in the Under-50s” and “67% Of UK Covid-19 Deaths Since February 2021 Were Vaccinated”.

    Here is my best “ Scientific Wild Assed Guess” about what will occur when the vaccine failure becomes totally un-hidable. Clearly the authorities in power will continue with their current, authoritarian centrally controlled messaging, governance by edict, and ‘do-it-or-else’ management of all of the institutional power structures that are currently in their grip. They have no other ways or means of exercising their style of totalitarian rule. These desperate efforts and lies will ctinue to have less and less effect on what people believe is actually going on around them.

    Some institutions (like big Media, the Court System, Big Tech, Medical & Health Authority and money distribution) are very easy to control that way. Orders and edicts simply go into the hopper at the top and are then complied with in an orderly Chain-Of-Command enforcement from the top down. Disobedience is rare and fruitless, since the disobedient are simply fired. Furthermore, and since their “product” is an extremely non-tangible concept called “obedience” , the actual total number of these managers can be reduced by 80 % or more and their absence would be be almost unnoticeable. The primary visible difference would probably be that the orders being hastily given would be increasingly later, crazier, and increasingly disconnected from reality. . . like Hitler issuing urgent directives to non-existent armies in the final days of Berlin’s fall.

    HOWEVER AND NEVERTHELESS : Other institutions, like police, fire rotection, food distribution, utilities, medical services, traansportation and distribution , which are dependent on large numbers of voluntarily employed workers are a WAY different story. Absence of police, firemen, truck drivers, paramedics, rescue workers, and medical staff will be felt both immediately and acutely. There are no acceptable excuses, work-arounds or substitutes for truly essential services. If they remain un-staffed and un-done for days or weeks then the social fabric fails abruptly and devolves into chaos that only an army could put down.

    BUT IF THE MILITARY HAS LOST A THIRD OF ITS FORCES AS WELL (including vital positions in the chain of command itself) then the military , too, will dissolve into chaos. Picture the Fall of Kabul . . . across the width and breadth of modern civilization. Not a pretty sight.

    The bad guys cannot quit now . Because to do so would assure their own personal deaths at the hands of various and numerous outraged victims. . . at least some of who have the capacity for tangible , forceful , “unauthorized” responses. That crowd will be a WILD array of good guys bad guys and opportunistic lunatics

    Most foks will do nothing. Many people will talk. And a few DOERS will act.

    That’s what I reckon could happen. In truth , that’s what I think SHALL happen, so that’s what I’m getting ready for . . . to the extent that one can actually get “ready” for complete systems failure and dissolution.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 23 2021 #85039
    D Benton Smith
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    FDA jab approval in open defiance of very very explicit laws . . . surprises no one. Add it to the litany of scofflaw edicts from Washington that are now so common that I believe we have to say that it’s simply the S.O.P. way of doing business.

    And from the Supreme Court ? Even the crickets have gone silent.

    The alley fight has spilled into the street. No-holds-barred now. Guns are next.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 23 2021 #85036
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    @zerosum

    Spot on. The trick question is : Who in their right mind would want to do that , and what are the nuts-n-bolts means of doing it ?

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 23 2021 #85027
    D Benton Smith
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    The following post probably got missed by many because it posted in the latest hours last night, but I think it’s relevant enough to today’s discussions to put it back up for review.

    Pertinent and interesting that the following legal definitions (lifted verbatim from legal refrence publications) are equally applicable to both Covid 19 (virus development, disease pandemic, and so-called “vaccine” campaign) and to the debacle of Afghanistan (the war, the failure, and the troop withdrawal) .

    [start of quoted material] Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant’s actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result.
    In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is a type of murder where an individual acts with a “depraved indifference” to human life and where such act results in a death, despite that individual not explicitly intending to kill. In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to a person. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a “depraved indifference” to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,[3] while in others, the act would be charged with “wanton murder,”[4][5] varying degrees of manslaughter,[6] or third-degree murder.
    If no death results, such an act would generally constitute reckless endangerment (sometimes known as “culpable negligence”) and possibly other crimes, such as assault.
    “depraved heart” murder is the form of murder that establishes that the wilful doing of a dangerous and reckless act with wanton indifference to the consequences and perils involved is just as blameworthy, and just as worthy of punishment, when the harmful result ensues as is the express intent to kill itself. This highly blameworthy state of mind is not one of mere negligence… It is not merely one even of gross criminal negligence… It involves rather the deliberate perpetration of a knowingly dangerous act with reckless and wanton unconcern and indifference as to whether anyone is harmed or not. The common law treats such a state of mind as just as blameworthy, just as anti-social and, therefore, just as truly murderous as the specific intents to kill and to harm. [end of quoted material ]

    I have only one comment to add : There has yet to be even so much as a misdemeanor indictment for any of it.

    in reply to: The Covid Coyote Conspiracy Theory #85009
    D Benton Smith
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    I find it relevant and interesting that the following legal terms (lifted almost verbatim from legal refrence publications) are equally applicable to both Covid 19 (virus development, disease pandemic, and so-called “vaccine” campaign) and to the debacle of Afghanistan (the war, the failure, and the troop withdrawal) .

    [quote] Fraud must be proved by showing that the defendant’s actions involved five separate elements: (1) a false statement of a material fact,(2) knowledge on the part of the defendant that the statement is untrue, (3) intent on the part of the defendant to deceive the alleged victim, (4) justifiable reliance by the alleged victim on the statement, and (5) injury to the alleged victim as a result. [unquote]

    [quote] In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is a type of murder where an individual acts with a “depraved indifference” to human life and where such act results in a death, despite that individual not explicitly intending to kill. In a depraved-heart murder, defendants commit an act even though they know their act runs an unusually high risk of causing death or serious bodily harm to a person. If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a “depraved indifference” to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought. In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder, while in others, the act would be charged with “wanton murder,” varying degrees of manslaughter,or third-degree murder.
    If no death results, such an act would generally constitute reckless endangerment (sometimes known as “culpable negligence”) and possibly other crimes, such as assault.
    “depraved heart” murder is the form of murder that establishes that the wilful doing of a dangerous and reckless act with wanton indifference to the consequences and perils involved is just as blameworthy, and just as worthy of punishment, when the harmful result ensues as is the express intent to kill itself. This highly blameworthy state of mind is not one of mere negligence… It is not merely one even of gross criminal negligence… It involves rather the deliberate perpetration of a knowingly dangerous act with reckless and wanton unconcern and indifference as to whether anyone is harmed or not. The common law treats such a state of mind as just as blameworthy, just as anti-social and, therefore, just as truly murderous as the specific intents to kill and to harm. [unquote]

    I have only one comment to add : There has yet to be even so much as a misdemeanor indictment for any of it.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 22 2021 #84994
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I’ve got a great idea for global depopulation, but the downside is that it would only cut total current population by about 0.000001 %.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 22 2021 #84952
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @democritus

    ref : ” So, confirmation bias then. Why do you think you are a good judge of what makes sense in virology and immunology? And if you are, why do you need to read anything? ”

    The same judgement that empowers me to judge from whom to expect information more likely to be be true rather than false. No guarantees, of course, but ya gotta start somewhere in the search for good data . . . and it’s inadvisable to turn to sources thrice proven to be pathological liars, fools, crooks and bullshit artsists.

    Of what use is an expert to ANYONE if those “anyones” don’t have some capacity to judge who is a reliable expert. Are you volunteering for the job ? Will YOU recommend where I should turn for verity? If, so then convince me why I should take your advices.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 22 2021 #84938
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    One of my earliest formal investigations was of comparative religion. The conclusion was that they were all predicated on pretty much the same basic concepts (which I more or less agreed with) but were operated day-to-day as power structures ( which I disagreed with, for the most part.) Then at age 12 came the first big moment of decision, putting my actions where my thoughts were. I made an appointment to meet with my Catholic parish priest, who I respected. In the meeting I told him that I could no longer honestly be a Catholic because I simply did not and could not believe in several of the it’s core dogma. He accepted my resignation without argument, whereupon I went my way with renewed respect for him AND his chosen religion.

    The quest continues. Going better than expected so far, so few complaints.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 22 2021 #84933
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    There may or may not be organized control structures above the World Economic Forum, directing and coordinating its activities for purposes that are not fully expressed in the published goals and purposes of that august owners club that is explicitly owned and operated by the 1000 richest entities in the world. It would be highly irrational not to at least observe and consider the possibility. Like the old saying goes, everybody has got a boss.

    In the final analysis, though, that probability does not really matter, because the most serious ( fatal, actually) flaw is built right into the organization as it presents itself. It’s not a secret. It’s published and common knowledge, right there in the open for all to see . . . or NOT to see, as the case may be. Because the flaw isn’t based on something or anything that the WEF has. It’s what the WEF does not have.

    It does not have checks and balances. It’s a monopoly, so to speak, which has no competitor of roughly equal power to prevent it from simply doing whatever it wants . . . with no way to reign it in if it decides that it wants everything.

    That management part of the World Economic Forum, that part which gives orders to its subordinate parts, consists solely and only of its owners . . . the aforementioned 1000 richest entities in the world. Nothing wrong with that, right ?

    Well, yes, actually. There is something wrong with that. It’s called detente, balance of power, “checks and balances”, fairness, equality and a host of other more or less inadequate attempts to label a concept that is fundamental to existance. For every force there is an equal and opposite force.

    In other words, if the forces which control the actions of the WEF consist only of those who represent financial power , then that power is unchecked by the other forces which are necessary to survival.

    These other forces have no authoritative role in the WEF’s executive management, and even the toothless “advisory” roles parcelled out to a chosen few are limited to those who are “invited” to it by the financial powers who select them.

    I should not have to point out the liklihood of anyone being selected who wants to say something that the WEF ownership sincerely and earnestly doesn’t like.

    Also, that there are types of power other than financial which are harder to see or measure but are every bit as vitally necessary to life as money. Perhaps more. Money may make the world go around, but it most definitely does NOT make the world.

    Not only can money not buy you love, it can’t even rent the truth, justice , freedom and life that make life worth loving.

    Is there, then, a way for the forces of love and truth and justice to get a seat on the board ? Nope. The WEF Board decides who gets to sit on the board, and they are financial power.

    It’s a conundrum, isn’t it? A dilemma. Catch 22.

    In which case there is one and only one way to fix it.

    You have to start telling the truth.

    Not all at once, mind you. That might be impossible, and way too dangerous in any case. No, all I’m saying is that you have to start telling the truth. Tell some, and then tell a bit more, and then even more. No need to shoot anybody (I hope) , just keep looking and telling.

    You will know when you have told ENOUGH truth when the combined force of that truth, love, justice and freedom matches the money force of the World Economic Forum. You’ll know it’s enough when the WEF and friends are reigned in from their reckless quest for suicidal power.

    At which point you can ease off. Please don’t overdo it. Checks and balances , remember?

    in reply to: How Little Clerks Become Mass Murderers #84895
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    How come FACTS are “misinformation” in today’s Newspeak ?

    Easy. It works like this: when someone wants you to do something it’s usually because the ‘something’ that they want you to do is going to help THEM in some way. In other words, there’s something in it for them. There MIGHT also be something in it for you, but that is entirely beside the point. Basically, they want what THEY want, and screw you. (and don’t get up on any moral high horse, because you’ve done the same damned thing when the tables were on the other foot.)

    This self-serveing bias is not always the case, of course, but anyone who has lived on THIS planet for long has learned the hard way that it usually is. It is so true that we are automatically wary about doing anything we’re told without first checking the facts and thinking it carefully through.

    Getting back to the main point, they want something so they tell you whatever it is that they think is most likely to produce the result which serves their interests. To their way of thinking, good for them is the definition of good, period. They actually believe it. EVERYTHING that they tell you is therefore legitimate INFORMATION because the PURPOSE behind it is legitimate because it causes the “good” thing to happen, which just so happens to make them rich, powerful and immune from prosecution. What a coincidence.

    By that measure, then, any and all data that might prevent the desired “good” result they yearn for is MISINFORMATION. It does not matter one nano-fuck how TRUE it might be. They do not give a micro-shit about truthful factuality. That doesn’t even cross their brain barrier. Any and all data contrary to the achievement of their rapacious ambition simply IS . . . by defintion . . . misinformation.

    And yeah, it’s insane, but if everyone does it then who’s crazy ? Desiring lies of any kind at any time for any purpose . . . is as crazy as a bed bug. It is literally the act of WANTING AND ACTING to obliterate one’s own ability to think and act successfully . . . and that is batshit crazy. Just because everyone’s is doing it too doesn’t make it and less so. It might, however, mean that we are inmates in a lunatic asylum.

    in reply to: Debt Rattle August 21 2021 #84842
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @deflationista
    ref : ” 70% of the recent calls to poison control in the state have been related to ingestion of livestock or animal formulations of ivermectin . . . ”

    Point 1. You are a flat out liar, who altered ONE badly undocumented wire story out of Mississippi and added your own percentage number to make it sound official.
    Point 2. Since you obviously pulled the phoney percentage number out of your ass we must all wonder what else is up your ass other than your head and a ton of backlogged feces.
    Point 3. Consider yourself on notice. Raul tolerates you as a matter of policy principle. I am under no such constraints. I tolerate stupidity. I do NOT tolerate malice. One more lie like the one you just posted and I will take great delight in making your continued presence here a thing you deeply regret.

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