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Participantif you want to win this war, understand that your enemies haven’t believed in the idea of “countries” for many decades now.
And there’s people posting here who devoutly disagree with this – they think, quite forthrightly, IF you are an American, then we do believe in nation-blobs and you cannot escape collectivism as applied to guilt. One weird exception.
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ParticipantBack when AFKTT was posting here, I asked him how his Climate Meltdown fit with the Notavax
If you think 7 Billion dead humans is, as Jesus Jones would say accepting their first and only music award, “A Good Start,” then how do you NOT think the Notavax, which sterlized Billions, killed millions, WILL kill many millions, is not the best thing to ever happen?
…because it seems like you took some time to rail against the Notavax for street cred here simply for the purpose of promoting your Critical Theory as applied to Climate. Unless you can explain.
…which he never did.
So as Catherine Austin Fitts says,
the weaponization of everything. It’s the weaponization of all the different systems we use, including food, health and finance. . .. There are literally injections that are bioweapons, and this is the weaponization of our healthcare system
The poison we are getting is being delivered to us on purpose. It is high tech, and it’s not just in the CV19 bioweapon injections. Fitts says, “We are ingesting these nanoparticles or nanobots
Surely those who object to a distinction between the parasite and the prey, who call Americans evil (and whose country has less free speech and far less right to bear arms) end these sentences with “…and that’s a good thing”
All those good, decent people you’d want as your neighbor are, thank goodness, having war waged on them from every vector. Clearly, the responsible parties are the plucky insurgents #RESISTING the evil USAians.
Working in the shadows, killing and maiming through every sneaky ploy, fighting as much with memetic propaganda as with physical poison. Rigging elections to stop those evil Americans from having their way, stuff like that. HEROES, amirite?
#RESISTING all those Americans.
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ParticipantDo remember the definition of Mandate – a thing the government gives their sanction to, asks you to do, says would be nice to do, but is voluntary, not legal to force on anyone.
To crush spirits and force slavish obedience to Mandates is a violence against language itself
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ParticipantDidn’t take long for the first policing attempt – herd me back with something oblique and spread-out enough to be hard to have a discussion with? Just re-assert the frame through poetry and song to re-establish the myth.
But sure, you lost some trees, but you got AMERICA in exchange!
That is a really, really great trade. You got the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, a free-speech values society, Aaron Copeland, Kurt Vonnegut, Jazz, Rock, the Chrysler Building, so many good and decent people are living and have lived out their lives in America .
YES giving particular trees a “chance to live” by not having had America would have let those trees live and stopped America …but just reflect on how many trees Americans have planted!
In the first Trump administration alone, millions of trees were planted by America!


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ParticipantSweden just passed a law for websites like Onlyfans.
It prosecutes people for PURCHASING Onlyfans content. Does not prosecute people selling.
Ohhhhh so it IS actually possible to see, apprehend, the existence of clients? It’s actually NOT outside of human faculties to grasp the concept? Huh.
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ParticipantThanks everyone yesterday who participated — I pointed out how people often identify the parasite on the USA, then redirect their anger from the parasite to Americans and America. (like how police find it so much easier to harass decent citizens than criminals) AND THEN YOU DEMONSTRATED IT.
You ought to reflect how knee-jerk your reaction was. How you could not help yourselves.
I ate your sacred cow in front of you WITH KETCHUP and you could not restrain yourself enough to construct a decent argument. Could not restrain yourself from acting out MY side of the argument. If I had created sock-puppets to strawman the opposing side, I could not have done better.
I challenged you to name a country doing better at free speech and gun rights and by the volume of the text you emitted without doing so, you very loudly conceded the point. Despite all the troubles, the USA is still currently the best in both these categories.
There was a certain amount of devaluation
1. gun rights are meaningless and useless
2. Free speech is meaningless and useless.Look back at who took that line yesterday. It was a great day for self de-pantsing.
Always remember who it was when considering future arguments – their self-revealed values and what they do NOT value, more importantly.
And last but most importantly, Collective Guilt. This was the real sacred cow.
Even people I might have expected not to fall into this did.
There seemed to be a visceral reaction to the idea that Collective Guilt would not be a thing — an insistence to renew, re-state, re-frame back to “No! NOOOO! There IS collective guilt!!!” Like saying it resets reality somehow? Back to what’s “right”?
No, collective guilt does not exist.
Collective guilt is the opposite of fairness, the opposite of justice.
If you want to conflate the parasite with the victim of the parasite, then you get the job of openly championing and proving out collective guilt.
What you DON’T get is a free ride in which you screech at people to police them, remind them what must not be challenged, what must go unquestioned. NO, actually. Prove collective guilt then.
And to prove Collective Guilt, you’re going to have to prove your underlying premises. You’re going to have to prove collectivism as an overarching concept to explain things. Otherwise I can step behind you to collectivism when you go support to Collective Guilt.
Since your’e too cowardly to do ANY of that, you’ll just snipe around the edges any way you can. And you won’t stay silent either. Because you cannot stand to let collective guilt be openly challenged and therefore cannot stand to discuss it. Make emotionally charged accusations to renew the frame, sure. That will be coming presently.
..but anyway, there’s no country on earth doing better at gun rights and free speech rights, and Americans have been – as proven by actual real reality – doing the best job at resisting tyranny.
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ParticipantYour through-line from French Revolution to Communist China was awesome
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ParticipantConfessing an affinity for the kind of continental revolutions that fail after much waste and bloodshed should embarrass you. You cannot realize how de-pantsing yourself you are right now.
The Chinese revolution;they killed their oppressors.
Mao was such a genius – boosting Chinese industry through “cottage industry” – forcing everyone with useful implements to melt them down to make awful, broken, non-useful implements. Country wide. While starving.
30 million dead by that alone. Big brain stuff us Americans wouldn’t culturally understand no doubt.
And tormenting all free-thinkers. Before killing quite a lot of them. An example to us all. And I say that with total sincerity.
Weird that you responded to an invitation to match up Chinese free speech and gun rights with the US and only talked about fighting “oppressors” all 150 million of them if you count ALL the Communists.
It’s almost like you think you can murder and steal on an industrial scale if you just say the word “oppressor”
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ParticipantThe west is very sick
You’re pointing at the parasite.
The West is Thomas Jefferson, JRR Tolkien, Cathedrals, The Geneva Convention, Richard Feynman, Albrecht Durer, Epictetus, Magna Carta, Mozart, Dickens, and a million other good and great things, all of which that parasite would love to completely devour.
It is telling that you point at the parasite and react by condemning the West.
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ParticipantThere’s America and Americans- who have the BY FAR best revolution ever. The only one that really works. The one that has people flee TO it instead of AWAY FROM it.
…and then you have the parasitic blob attached to it.
Hating America is like hating someone fighting a salmonella infection because you don’t like diarrhea.
Yes it is embarrassing. Dehydrating and debilitating.
But this is the first thing and last thing you think to do, give your sympathies to the villain, beat the victim along side them – yeah, and ANOTHER thing!
Meanwhile, our free speech and gun ownership rights are beating every other nation at this point. Even WITH all the continual efforts at repression. We can still mock the UK for jailing grandmothers for tweets while shielding and hiding rapists. It’s been full-on carpet bombing freedom in the West and we’re slow walking it as much as we possibly can. Please do make the argument that NZ, China, the UK are doing better. We can all use some comedy these days.
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Participant• Hamas Says Ready For ‘Complete End To The War’ – AP (RT)
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ParticipantThe wife mentioned a client got a weird horrific cancer and is undergoing a super rare, super difficult operation soon with fairly scant hopes of survival.
The client base is fairly chatty and she gets to hear what is going on in their lives a lot of the time.
Her overall reaction “Why are so many people getting such weird, rare cancers now?”
My reaction, deadpan “Yes, if only we knew of something different we all did about, oh, about 4 years ago. If only there were some rational explanation.”
“Spiritually Californian” — a term I heard when someone was explaining Jordan Peterson and his family members. Why they SEEM to have a grip on things only to slip and righteously go full blue-square in very embarrassing, obviously wrong ways. Jordan Peterson saying Kavenaugh should just give up on his Supreme Court nomination because a political operative who scrubbed her social media and had 2 doors on her house so she could rent office space instead of SEEKING JUSTICE based on THE TRUTH. (dude, weren’t YOU persecuted?!?!?? You remember?)
Like yeah, yeah, the Petersons try to fight the good fight, sure they come from Canada, sure they had to flee that country because of how Liberalism has no antibodies against Leftism and he was being persecuted — but even when it attacks him personally, he can’t always fight it — he’s Spiritually Californian – this is his culture, tradition, underlying perception of reality. Spiritual Californians are everywhere.
We’re finally moving. The Stabmore, (the hotel Denver converted to house criminals and illegals like California does) 100 yards away, has a lot to do with it. More garbage everywhere. Disturbing new people walking or staggering around. Incoherent insane yelling in public, day and night. Businesses around it inexplicably closing. And of course the general way Denver is being run layered on top of that. The local library is no good anymore, for instance. My car was broken into, but after popping the hatchback and crawling forward, they found the stick shift, so I still have a car.
Anyone can realize the “Ew, it’s not so good anymore, we need to move” but the specifics as to why and even more so the causes are forbidden. They are to be invisible, but if they are brought up, noticing means you are a Big Meanie.
I was kinda wtf, this is YOUR neighborhood being ruined that we will be fleeing. You can’t just consciously see it and talk about it? Compared to the time and effort of having to move across town BECAUSE OF IT, isn’t that LESS difficult?
And then it hit me watching that rant about the Petersons. My wife’s mother in law, huge blue square. Her brother, same. The family moved to Denver back when she was a little girl… FROM CALIFORNIA. She’s mentioned that to her family members, SHE is suspect in their eyes. Possibly secret MAGA!!! (I promise you, not so, just a left leaning normie) The family is spiritually Californian.
And that’s fine, it just means that there are costs to your religion (like to pay more for your housing, time and effort packing, moving, unpacking, expenditures on boxes, packing materials, a moving company…. higher insurance premiums for everything, increased feelings of indignation with increasing frequency, cognitive dissonance… extremely superior and correct expert-aligned exotic cancers…)
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ParticipantMy new job really brings insurance to the top of awareness. I talk to a LOT of people who say rising insurance costs are deeply affecting them. A lot of them are in California.
Think about California 10, 20, 50 years ago.
The further you go back in time, are there less people who would vandalize or destroy your vehicle?
Are there less people who would steal your vehicle?
Do you feel your streets get safer as you look further back in time?
As you go further back in time, are there less people driving around without insurance and/or without a license and/or driving extremely badly? Are there less or more hit and runs 20, 50 years ago?
If you go back 20 years, 50 years, do you have more conscientious clearing of brush around power lines and other sensitive areas?
If only reality worked on the basis of causality. If only there were something Californians DID over the past 50 years that could be identified. Don’t worry if anything bad happens “randomly” and inexplicably though, so long as you had insurance.
And I still cannot figure out how every major city is so proud of “welcoming” tens or hundreds of thousands of “newcomers” in a single year, getting them all driver’s licenses for voting, and yet I never, ever see this reflected in people attending driving school on the roads. While my customers cannot understand why their auto insurance premiums are “so high”
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ParticipantSo manhandling and kicking out the ppl one can blame (poor immigrants, etc.) instead of destroying, changing, the system is an easy ‘out’ and allows some citizens to grasp some hope for change.
Part of the system is hundreds of billions of dollars in NGO budgets with huge, sophisticated transportation and logistics infrastructure to gather, transport, and funnel people into Europe and the US, a machine that continually runs, substituting one source population if one supply runs low. Never sleeping, always working while other people consider the issue every once in a while.
Mass unlimited illegal migration IS The System.
Although you and I never were evil enough to think of PEOPLE as a bioweapon, someone most definitely does and is consistently, relentlessly, aiming it at the poor.
Getting rid of much cheap imported labor will kill, or reduce, or slowly strangle, many biz in the US who are dependent on it.
Who will pick the cotton?
Slavery always STOPS growth. Cato – for wealth growth, just buy land. Put sheep and slaves on it. Repeat. Why the hell would I do anything else?
The Greeks and Romans made steam boilers and metal cylinders similar to Victorian steam machinery with tight tolerances. There was no particular reason they couldn’t have had steam locomotives and ships except that they had too many slaves. The US South pre Civil War was stunted in terms of science, engineering, industry, infrastructure, because they had slaves. They were stuck with LESS wealth because of the cheap labor.
Plus what you GET with your cheap labor is people from a low-trust society who do things like attach every shingle on your roof with a single nail x millions of new homes and all the knockon effects from that – insurance claims, water damage, the need to do the roof again multiplied by millions etc.
But it is easy to go ahead and use the cheap labor anyway if we refuse to measure or look at the costs. Not actually cheap. Benefit with cheapness in one particular area, tons of spread-out causes we look away from, someone else’s problem.
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ParticipantThere was a Bond for parks put to a vote – the things it was supposed to fund were the basic things the dept was getting a budget for — amazingly in Denver, the vote went NO
The large local park is surrounded by essentially a moat of ditches. After the vote, they removed all the wood from the bridges, denying everyone access to the park. The wood was in excellent condition before removal – they cited “maintenance” and the non-completion of the job as “shortage of funds”
So you budgeted a significant part of your remaining resources for bridge removal AFTER saying “oh no, we don’t have enough funds to do anything” and the no vote.
The obvious answer is to fire enough parks administrators to free up funding for the bridges.
And then keep firing administrators until we have few enough that they are too overworked with real tasks, no spare time to remove bridges, too stressed and busy to dream up new multimillion bonds to put us in further debt.
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ParticipantDOGE is the way.
The objections requiring detailed, metaphysically-considered decisions for each individual expenditure are exactly like the demand that each and every felon here illegally get a personal day in court. It’s solely for the purpose of keeping the scam going.
If you starve an organization for funds, you will discover that they don’t have the money to support a 20:1 ratio of administrators to people who actually do the thing you need. MAYBE they waste all the money you give them on tertiary things, but then they are naked, failed 100% to do the job instead of only 96% failed and they’re gone. They have barely enough money to scrape together the means to show something for it.
What need have I for a 0% successful thing? We need government for roads but we don’t need government for 0% roads and a bunch of road-administrators, unless we lay the administrators down on the ground to make a corduroy road.
The school declares an emergency. Needs a new massive bond. The roof is super old, needs replacement! Hurry, pay more taxes!
That’s called BUDGETING. You had a budget. You are a school, which before anything else is a building, the primary component of which is a roof. What did you spend the most basic component of your budget on rather than a roof?
The best application we could make of AI is continually find the managerial-class people who fuck everything up and, once identified, move them sideways into a do-nothing job, basically adult daycare, where they can do no harm.
It would be better to continue to pay them low 6 figures in important sounding positions, posting selfies with their frappuccinos, living their best lives and rendered totally harmless than what we have now.
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ParticipantMen vs Women left to cook COMPLETELY from scratch. (Survival Island – male team vs female team)
Women starving, dying of dehydration but kept going through the repeated intervention of men. (despite being ackshully intrinsically superior hunters…)
Meanwhile, Men: “Thanks for the vacation!!!!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzCO0G8AGLU
The show even DELIVERED “a bow drill set” directly to the women after they failed to re-light their fire for 48 hours. How difficult is a bow drill, the concept and the construction? You’re in the middle of a FOREST.
You have a team member who says she is a FORESTER. Can she not harvest a stick and some fibre? (She verbally established herself as the Forest Expert, demanded no one question her navigation, then led them in a circle for a day)
You self-selected to go on a survival show, nobody swooped in and kidnapped you randomly out of a downtown nail salon. It didn’t occur to you to practice making a fire BEFORE going? Was there some root unquestioned assumption that other people take care of things if you don’t? In EVERY team member?!??!?
They bragged, not only about being strong and independent, but of their superior communal system.
Male sleeping areas were separate – each built their own little space.
The women all slept close together in a single structure – holy #%& The Longhouse is real!!!!!
Before I go full misogynist, there could be other factors in play than sheer differences in sex. Perhaps the women tended to be in corporate, government, and NGO jobs that are part of the modernist managerial culture? …so that we’d see more of just an illustration of people being a product of their environment, which points back to the nature of most corp/gov/ngo environments?
Working in a corp environment myself, I can attest that it is paralyzing. A lot of people become accustomed to half-doing things because they make the assumption someone else will do the rest. Knowing how to shitcan the work is a highly advanced skill – I learned every trick in my decades in a corporate bureaucracy, I could always see when/how people were doing it. I used the sneaky methods, but for other goals. Mainly to get shit done under the radar.
There’s a culture in which, if the managerial class realizes you are sizing up situations, coming to conclusions, making judgments, and acting on your own judgments, then they appear to feel a sort of total all-encompassing existential horror. They are totally dependent on this HAPPENING and competently happening – it’s why you hire human beings for jobs instead of relying totally on a touch-tone phone tree to deliver customer service.
…yet year after year, anytime they saw individuals DOING things, they’d jump in to stop it. They’d require anything they could find HAPPENING to get supervisor approval. Then it occurred to them the supervisors were people apprehending, judging, deciding, acting.
…so they required that we go to the supervisors and then the supervisors would send a ticket to a department somewhere else in the world which we had NO way to communicate with other than sending the ticket. Checking memos on customer accounts, they eventually had to have supervisor approval within THEIR department to do anything.
I shit you not, this ACTUALLY happened.
And the other dept turned out to be in the Philippines – an outsourced call center. So you had executive escalation reps with 10-20 years of tenure with the company asking supervisors like children asking to go potty so the supervisors could send a ticket to Cebu in the Philippines for a foreign outsourced below minimum wage person to consult THEIR foreign outsourced below minimum wage supervisor what the fate of our American customer would be.
…to try to get the right outcome we already knew should have happened 4 levels below us in the escalation path 3-4 weeks ago. Back when it was a frontline care rep fielding the escalation to a lead… both of them in an outsourced call center in the Philippines. Precisely where the failure to resolve originated.
So maybe the type of jobs women self-select for… Even the Forester lady may have been more of a bureaucrat?
Anyway, scratching my head here, the only reason I can think to loudly bemoan women not living on hyperprocessed food anymore is that they wouldn’t be stuffed to the gills with endocrine disruptors and hormone mimickers, leaving just the birth control pills and SSRI’s to do all the heavy lifting by themselves.
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Participantchina uses it to make “pressure-cookers, instapots, microwaves, ovens, stoves, washing machines, dryers, dishwashers, bread machines, refrigeration. water from the faucet, flush toilets”.
working that problem…

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Participantlike, I’m going to focus on MAKING AND EATING STUFF and getting on with my day while you are still complaining about how this might impinge on your perceived social value amongst your 5 office/margaritas chicks and social media or something.
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ParticipantWhen I make food from scratch, I’ll make 20-30 healthy breakfast burritos at once, or do 20-30 en papillot meals at once and throw them all in the chest freezer my wife couldn’t comprehend me buying.
There’ tons of males working the problem of food-from-scratch they are all over youtube. I guarantee males are shouldering the “burden” of scratch meals as much as women.
The difference is that men approach it as problem solving, tool-using. Part of defense/protection (from poison) and self-improvement. So we end up coming up with systems that make it efficient and lower the burden. We come up with tools to decrease the time sink.
This is also how you got pressure-cookers, instapots, microwaves, ovens, stoves, washing machines, dryers, dishwashers, bread machines, refrigeration. water from the faucet, flush toilets — but by all means, complain as a first, second, and third step.
The burden of cooking real food — women most affected.
To say cooking from scratch hurts women in particular is to say they are Special Needs, like… retarded or something.
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ParticipantThe Culture War does not appear to have abated yet. Fantastic Four next up.
In the meantime we have the recent release of Ironheart™ – what if Iron Man was a sociopath marxist criminal black lesbian genius idiot with the ugliest possible suit plagarized very badly from the female Centradi mecha suits in Macross? You don’t have to wonder anymore. What if yet ANOTHER try was taken at having idiot writers try to write genius characters? Find out by watching Disney’s latest $200m+ minimum, 8 episode show!
The show has a high concept – that the way to be a Great Inventor or Successful Businessperson is to FIRST be a multibillionaire and THEN do the rest.
She starts her journey as a full ride student at MIT who has had her courses designed around her needs and has received millions in grant money. This, of course, is inequity and you can see the oppression she is under right away, of course.
She’s kicked out for not producing anything workable with her grant money, not doing her homework or coursework, and helping other students cheat to get good grades an degrees, so they can go on to be the ones who design our airplanes and bridges.
She becomes part of a crimin– revolutionary team that goes after “rich assholes” who do things like dig tunnels under the city to clear traffic congestion and come up with new seeds to better feed the hungry. Don’t worry. When the next generation of scientists and engineers – “experts” – grows up, (the ones you helped cheat for grades) you’ll no longer have the inequities of STEM people doing useful things for money anymore.
It really is like Pravda – what people would LIKE to read, what skill it is done in, what format of presentation or style is desired, or any relation to reality is totally irrelevant. The presses will keep printing in the same volume, at the same speed, for decades due to a waterfall of money from somewhere.
“85 Billion though, man. You could pull shit that would last years for that…”
“….just to enjoy people going ‘what the fuck? why doesn’t it close??? ….but they’ve been open for 50 YEARS now…'”
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Participant“dealing with” consisting of
Hitler: 6 Million
Communism: 150 Million
150/6 = 23
Communsim = 23 Hitlers
kultsommer: “Yeah, but..”
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Participantstudies have shown that socialism is responsible for circa 73% of all old man rants.
Once all those wealthy socialist boomers on the brink of death who are turning the Communism up to 11, trying to “make their mark” like a personal funeral pyre they put their possessions and grandkids on top of, then hopefully we can stop hearing neverending pro-socialist rants from them through a million paid astroturf throats.
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ParticipantI got a reply from Senator John Hickenlooper – to my email requesting an account of the dollar value of everything we have given Israel and what they have given us in return MINUS assistance from them aligned with their own interests, MINUS any Israeli assistance dealing with blowback from giving them assistance or aligning ourselves with their interests.
It was a statement about how horrified he is by the October Hamas attack, reassuring me how we will prevent another one. It describes Israel as our closest ally. But they are “adamant that Israel must obey international law including allowing aid into Gaza and protecting civilians from harm”
it was from a donotreply email address, so I couldn’t explain in reply that my email was about funding and accounting the cost-benefit blanace, with an aside that if we hadn’t given Israel money, maybe they wouldn’t have had the money to fund Hamas and then Israel wouldn’t have the current troubles with the Hamas that they funded.
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ParticipantFinally the light at the end of the tunnel, re who is the beneficiary of the socialism in the US.
…so socialists in the US, whose policies and programs and ideology fuck everything up, aren’t Trying Real Socialism
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ParticipantMan on the Street report on RealID
I had to go into the DMV to renew my drivers license because RealID required a new photo.
Lots of verification built into the RealID program – so I came ready after reading the requiremetns online – 2 proofs of residency, passport, social security card or W2 to prove your ssn, birth certificate…
When I got there, I heard more spanish than english at the DMV
They checked absolutely NOTHING. Just passed me through after showing my current license.
ICE, ICE Baby: Denver City Council Ends Car Theft Tracking System To Protect Illegal Immigrants
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ice-ice-baby-denver-city-council-ends-car-theft-tracking-system-protect-illegalAfter the hotel full of migrants 100 yards away, the wife is on board to move somewhere not in the jurisdiction of Denver.
That system resulted in the recovery of 170 stolen cars and 300 arrests. It is also credited with key evidence in the investigation of hit-and-run and murder cases.
However, it could also be used to assist ICE
Unanimous city council vote removing it.
We’re living in an era where just this last week, actually, an executive order came out instructing the Department of Justice and the FBI to look for reasons to prosecute local elected officials and activists who they believe are, quote, unquote, obstructing ICE enforcement.
Reasons like, you actually obstructing ICE enforcement? Reasons like that, mayor?
Did your pledge to raise an army of tens of thousands to obstruct ICE – a number cited which, curiously, matched the number of illegal migrants you previously cited proudly as having welcomed – maybe, do you think, might that have raised suspicions that people in your government were obstructing ICE enforcement?
But noticing is the absolute worst thing a Big Meanie can do?
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ParticipantThank goodness we have the Socialists, who care the MOST about running everything through the government.
This is why Leftists rose up in one body applauding DOGE, demanding they go even farther, that the program be expanded, brought to every level of government, be made a permanent rather than temporary program.
Because of how sincere they are.
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…but surely, other states will see a DECLINE in leftists, as they rush to New York? Surely? Obviously?
Does not compute. You know it doesn’t.
Socialists always seek access to non-socialists. Never to other socialists.
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ParticipantI was super pissed at the whole Iran debacle AS PRESENTED, certainly THAT was total bullshit and betrayal of MAGA.
But with the ineffectual activity on both sides – between US and Iran, it comes off as epic trolling by Trump. AGAIN. Like Syria.
Incidentally, also like the H1B Christmas Twitter War, in which the MAGA admin said how wonderful unlimited H1B visas were and then got utterly destroyed on about 1000 conceivable bases. The MAGA base absolutely devastated the MAGA “leadership.” Massive use of H1B denigrated and being made the subject of focused attention was the ultimate result.
Idunno how much of Trump Epic Trolling is purposeful or a double-triple-quadruple fake or not. Results SEEM to occur and they SEEM to be more or less ok even if the optics look seriously fucked up.
Like, Trump said “Fine Israel, if you REEEEEALY think you can do it go ahead and do it show me”
And then the rest was theatre, letting them FAFO, pre-discussed through backchannels with Iran????
OR total flailing around that results in an acceptable-ish landing in the sense of didn’t escalate to WW3? The non-immediate term effects are yet to be fully observed and discussed.
Idunno, I KINDA get the feeling he was doing a thing, kinda don’t. Gaza does not appear to be better off nor its situation part of a ceasefire agreement, which was what I had thought we might have been working towards. I’ve gone from pissed to laughing to scratching my head over all this. WTF happened?
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ParticipantI does not take many words to say the citizens of the United States, our whole lives, have gone along to get along and here we are.
Everyone knows now that collective guilt is fake, gay, cringe, and retarded. Not effective like it was a decade ago.
It’s been dawning on even the majority of doom-o-sphere denizens that the American people are getting poisoned relentlessly as if they were vermin to be eradicated. Can I even count the ways? Fake food, fake medicine (which itself breaks down into like 20 different major poisonings), poisoned water, massive fentanyl importation, poisonous cookware, poisonous outgassing consumer goods and housing materials, promotion of horribly toxic non recyclable windmills, solar panels, and batteries.
It should be dawning on you the people of the United States are not aggressors, they’re victims and survivors. They’ve been surviving their OWN bombardment for decades.
And there’s the continual mental carpet-bombing of Americans. Again, can we even count the ways? Via “education,” entertainment, “news,” social media, “experts,” astroturf, and institutions (which breaks out into its own awful list) …and of course some of the poisoning plays into the mental carpet bombing – birth control pills, SSRI’s, fluoride. And then, if you don’t happen to leave any of these avenues open for carpet-bombing you, you’ll still be walking out into society and be surrounded by people who were.
take the case of
Popular Fox Rescuer Commits Suicide After Degenerate Redditors Launch Character Assassination Campaign
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/popular-fox-rescuer-commits-suicide-after-degenerate-redditors-launch-characterThis youtube channel was adorable. RECOGNIZABLY the same type of people, organizing the same kind of way, using the same tactics, drove this nice woman to death. And we know these activities were being funded in the billions.
And yet a lot of people are STILL totally naive. “oh, that would be CRAZY for them to bother with me” yes it would and did you notice they ARE crazy? Not their foot soldiers but the people behind them?
Or “oh,I’m too small for them” no, actually you are not. Because if you are on the C team, THEY have their cadre of C-Team people for whom little old you are NOT too petty for, have nothing better to do, and are cheap. If they think there is ANY utility to this activity, it’s worth it just to keep your troops’ training sharp between more important events or to train up new people.
Women seem to be more disposed to re-orient around society and consensus, such that if you blow away some cherished illusion or truth-bomb them, they will, with you, during that conversation, say like any sane person “Woah, that kinda blew my mind, I get it. This changes my outlook and is concerning” …..therefore I must do some soul searching. ….by checking with consensus and what society is doing. This is not insane nor contemptible. It would have, for millions of years, been a great human strategy.
But you can see what it does. That corrective loop was used to kill this poor wonderful woman.
We know it is not accidental or random, not just weirdos who randomly do stuff. We know about the billions in funding now, we can recognize the ideology and the tactics that go along with it – they were trying to – are in the middle of – “occupying the space” – meatsuiting the particular niche this woman occupied. They have a meatsuit “fox rescue” ready to slot into that place. So clearly, nothing is happening.
But Americans have been carpetbombed like this for DECADES and even after realizing the USAID and other massive funding revelations, STILL not getting how that translates down to man-on-the-street level.
Accusing Americans of collective guilt is – becoming more obvious by the day – just another arrow in the quiver of carpet bombing them.
And some boomers who think you have to act like THEM from the late 60’s early 70’s or you are doing nothing buy into it, go along with it, quite easily.
Under this continual rain, if someone makes a home, loves someone, raises a family, carries on culture or traditions, that’s resistance too even if they never groveled in the street performatively imitating leftist college kids from over half a century ago to satisfy bomers in their twilight years.
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ParticipantThey’re all endlessly arguing about measurements in Metric over at Moon of Alabama today (In the Iran section), which tells me two things:
1. Metric system? What a bunch of gay communists
2. After a hiccup, ceasefire must be holding between Iran and Israel.
jb-hb
Participantlol looking back I fucked up one of the calculations, but there would STILL be a ridiculous $ amount per Gazan goldfish if they had simply paid them all to leave.
jb-hb
ParticipantThe internet tells me we’ve given roughly 200 billion in aid to Israel since the 50’s. I doubt this severely. But let’s say inflation-adjusted it ends up being 300 Billion? Because we are gullible fucking idiots?
Hey AI, what was the population of Gaza in 1980?
The population of the Gaza Strip in 1980 was estimated to be between 818,300 and 832,400 people
Hey AI, what’s $300,000,000,000/800,000?
$375,000
Hey AI, whats’ the exchange rate Dollars vs the Egyptian Pound?
0.020 US Dollar
And how does the purchasing power match up?
1.0 US Dollar = 50.05 Egyptian Pound
And what is $300,000,000,000 / 0.020?
15,000,000,000,000
And what is $15,000,000,000,000 x £E 50?
750,000,000,000,000
What is $750,000,000,000,000 in dollar-equivalent purchasing power / 800,000 Gazans, then?
$937,500,000 per Gazan – every man, woman, child, and infant
If we assume an average of 1 family pet per Gazan and divide the dollar-equivalent purchasing power by Gazans AND their pets, how much can each of their pets each get?
$750,000,000,000,000 / 1,600,000 Gazans and Pets =
Each and every Gazan dog, cat, gerbil, and goldfish gets $468,750,000 in dollar-equivalent purchasing power in Egypt
AI, could EVERY SINGLE Gazan been easily bribed to willingly move out of Gaza at these levels? Could 1/100th of the aid US have accomplished the task? Hell, go crazy and make it 1/50th? Is it possible INDIVIDUAL bombs and missiles used to try to drive Gazans out cost as much as would have bought them a nice house in Egypt?
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(obviously, not using AI for the entire sequence…)
Why didn’t Israel BRIBE the Gazans out? They’d have been done with the project decades ago. So why? Because the Gazans would have HAD THAT MONEY don’t you see, and that’s wrong, sir. Wrong.
jb-hb
ParticipantAmerican hive-mind is aflame with histrionic…
Right, right, in terms of the styling of ending the gravy train, I COULD go hysterical, unconscious, and brainless, yeah. That would get the job done.
But how about if I reach over to that gravy spigot and, while maintaining so much wisdom, massive genius, superhuman consciousness, and total calm, and with a level of total sanity that, if you could barely conceive of it, my level of total stability, reasonableness, and genius would permanently blow your mind, leaving you drooling, unable to function unassisted in normal, life forevermore, just totally blown away by my super awesome reasonable intelligent conscious genius….
and WHILE doing so, maintaining eye contact with you, I reach over to the spigot labeled “Israel Gravy Train” and. while you object “Stop! Don’t touch that! Don’t you dare do that!” I turn off the spigot? Aaaaaalllllll the way off?
Like, you object to the STYLE in which I turn it off? Is that your beef?
I’m an American, so I am pragmatic. I don’t MIND terribly if I flap my arms, spin in a circle, and ululate and then turn it off.
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