Dec 032020
 


Walter Langley Never morning wore to evening but some heart did break 1894

 

One In Six Covid-19 Deaths In Vermont Came From A Single Nursing Home (IC)
Possible HHS Pick Shielded Nursing Homes From Liability In COVID Outbreak (DP)
First In Line For Covid Vaccine? Some US Health Care Workers Say No (Y!)
Obama, Bush and Clinton Volunteer To Get Coronavirus Vaccine Publicly (CNN)
10 Fatal Flaws In The Main Test For COVID (RT)
Study Finds 98% Of COVID Patients Still Have Antibodies 6 Months Later (ZH)
Fed and Treasury Urge Congress To Approve More Virus Relief (AP)
Trump Demands Social Media Giants’ Liability Shield Be Scrapped (JTN)
CNN Caught Burying The Post’s Hunter Biden Exposé (NYP)
Congress Passes Bill To Target Foreign Businesses Blocking US Auditors (JTN)
Here Comes the Trucking Boom in the Weirdest Economy Ever (WS)
Assad’s Syria Is Starving Like Saddam’s Iraq (FP)
Humans Waging ‘Suicidal War’ On Nature – UN Chief Antonio Guterres (BBC)

 

 

CNN Democrats’ corona hypocrisy

 

 

“The nursing home has about 90 residents…”

One In Six Covid-19 Deaths In Vermont Came From A Single Nursing Home (IC)

One in six Covid-19 deaths in Vermont have come from a single nursing home, owned by a troubled for-profit chain, Genesis HealthCare. The novel coronavirus began to spread like wildfire in Burlington Health and Rehab in March, leading to 12 deaths in the first wave of the virus. The pandemic arrived just a few weeks after the state’s attorney general, T.J. Donovan, a Democrat, had settled an investigation into the facility for “allegations of neglect that resulted in serious injury to three residents and the death of a fourth.” The nursing home has about 90 residents. Federal nursing home staffing records reveal that registered nurse staffing in the facility failed to meet minimum levels even after the settlement, suggesting that the settlement failed to protect nursing home residents.


Lobbyists for the chain have donated to Donovan’s reelection campaign, as they have for Vermont Gov. Phil Scott, a Republican, whose administration collaborated with Donovan on the settlement. The Covid-19 outbreaks in these facilities showcase not just the failed national approach to nursing home oversight, but a cozy relationship between state regulators and nursing homes. As another wave of Covid-19 hits the state, a massive outbreak has occurred at another Genesis facility in Rutland, Vermont, with 41 cases. Seven more cases have appeared at another Genesis facility in Berlin, Vermont. Nationwide, over 100,000 residents of nursing homes and other long-term care facilities have died from Covid-19, accounting for 40 percent of the total. The new wave of nursing home Covid-19 cases is not unique to Vermont; many other states are again seeing significant outbreaks at their nursing homes.

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Things will be so much better under Biden…

Possible HHS Pick Shielded Nursing Homes From Liability In COVID Outbreak (DP)

Rhode Island Gov. Gina Raimondo has presided over one of the deadliest COVID outbreaks in the country — and new documents obtained by The Daily Poster detail how she helped nursing home lobbyists shield health care companies from coronavirus-related lawsuits. Now, Raimondo — a former Wall Street executive — is reportedly being considered for the nation’s top health care policy job in the incoming Biden administration. Politico reported last week that Raimondo, who made her name slashing state workers’ pensions, is one of the finalists to lead the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services under President-elect Joe Biden. Raimondo was also previously considered for Treasury Secretary, according to the American Prospect.

As governor, Raimondo has slammed proposals to expand Medicare to cover everyone. Amid the pandemic in August, her administration approved health insurance companies’ steep premium increases that were criticized by the state’s Democratic attorney general as “unnecessary and ill-advised.” Health insurers have been raking in record profits, with fewer people seeking care because of the pandemic. Raimondo has also pushed for Medicaid cuts that nursing home workers warned would result in unsafe staffing levels — and in April, she issued an executive order sought by health care industry lobbyists that shielded nursing homes from lawsuits when their business decisions injure or kill people. The order was later expanded to shield nursing homes, hospitals, and other health care providers.


While the Biden transition is reportedly considering Raimondo for HHS Secretary, residents and workers in Rhode Island’s nursing homes have faced deadly consequences. Documents obtained by The Daily Poster show that Raimondo quickly responded to lobbyists’ demands for an executive order granting them legal immunity during the pandemic. “What immunity has done is allow nursing homes to act unreasonably without accountability,” one personal injury lawyer told the Providence Journal last month.

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“They failed miserably with PPE (personal protective equipment) and testing and now they want you to be guinea pigs for the vaccine..”

First In Line For Covid Vaccine? Some US Health Care Workers Say No (Y!)

They can move to front of the line for a Covid-19 vaccine if they want, but some US health care workers are skeptical about taking a vaccine that was developed in record time — even as the pandemic rages on. Some want more time, despite assurances from experts that they trust the vaccine vetting process carried out by the US Food and Drug Administration. “I think I would take the vaccine later on, but right now I am a little leery of it,” nurse Yolanda Dodson, 55, told AFP. Dodson works at the Montefiore Hospital in New York City and spent the spring in the heart of the deadly fight against the virus. Vaccine studies so far “look promising but I don’t think there is enough data yet,” Dodson said.

“We have to be grateful to those who are willing to subject themselves to take that risk” to participate in the studies, she said. “It is a very personal decision.” Diana Torres is a nurse at a Manhattan hospital who saw several of her co-workers die of the novel coronavirus this spring. She is particularly suspicious of vaccines rushed for approval under the Trump administration, which she says has handled the entire pandemic like “some sort of joke.” “This is a vaccine that was developed in less than a year and approved under the same administration and government agencies that allowed the virus to spread like a wildfire,” Torres said. “They didn’t have enough time and people to study the vaccine,” she said. “This time around I will pass and watch how it unfolds.”


Data from clinical trials have shown that two vaccines — one developed by Pfizer and BioNtech, the other by Moderna and the US National Institutes of Health — are about 95 percent effective. Normally the FDA requires six months of follow up, but if no adverse reactions appear in the first two months, it is rare to see anything in the next four — and the raging pandemic has altered the risk-benefit calculations. There were 44,000 volunteers in the Pfizer trial, and 30,000 in Moderna’s, and the data was firewalled from the companies and analyzed by experts free from political pressure. Fellow nurses commenting on Torres’s Facebook page seemed just as skeptical. “They failed miserably with PPE (personal protective equipment) and testing and now they want you to be guinea pigs for the vaccine,” one friend wrote.

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So not the health care workers, but the presidents do.

Obama: “I trust this science, and what I don’t trust is getting Covid”

Maybe someone should tell him the vaccine doesn’t protect him from getting COVID. It was never meant to do that.

Obama, Bush and Clinton Volunteer To Get Coronavirus Vaccine Publicly (CNN)

Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton are volunteering to get their Covid-19 vaccines on camera to promote public confidence in the vaccine’s safety once the US Food and Drug Administration authorizes one. The three most recent former presidents hope an awareness campaign to promote confidence in its safety and effectiveness would be a powerful message as American public health officials try to convince the public to take the vaccine. Freddy Ford, Bush’s chief of staff, told CNN that the 43rd President had reached out to Dr. Anthony Fauci — the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the nation’s top infectious disease expert — and Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, to see how he could help promote the vaccine.

“A few weeks ago President Bush asked me to let Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx know that, when the time is right, he wants to do what he can to help encourage his fellow citizens to get vaccinated,” Ford told CNN. “First, the vaccines need to be deemed safe and administered to the priority populations. Then, President Bush will get in line for his, and will gladly do so on camera.” Clinton’s press secretary told CNN on Wednesday that he too would be willing to take the vaccine in a public setting in order to promote it. “President Clinton will definitely take a vaccine as soon as available to him, based on the priorities determined by public health officials. And he will do it in a public setting if it will help urge all Americans to do the same,” Angel Urena said.


Obama, in an interview with SiriusXM host Joe Madison scheduled to air Thursday, said that if Fauci said a coronavirus vaccine is safe, he believes him. “People like Anthony Fauci, who I know, and I’ve worked with, I trust completely,” Obama said. “So, if Anthony Fauci tells me this vaccine is safe, and can vaccinate, you know, immunize you from getting Covid, absolutely, I’m going to take it. “I promise you that when it’s been made for people who are less at risk, I will be taking it,” he said. “I may end up taking it on TV or having it filmed, just so that people know that I trust this science, and what I don’t trust is getting Covid,” he added. CNN has reached out to representatives for former President Jimmy Carter to see if he would be willing to take the vaccine publicly as well.

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“It’s cheap, fast – and absolutely useless.”

10 Fatal Flaws In The Main Test For COVID (RT)

A peer review from a group of 22 international experts has found 10 “major flaws” in the main protocol for such tests. The report systematically dismantles the original study, called the Corman-Drosten paper, which described a protocol for applying the PCR technique to detecting Covid. The Corman-Drosten paper was published on January, 23, 2020, just a day after being submitted, which would make any peer review process that took place possibly the shortest in history. What is important about it is that the protocol it describes is used in around 70 percent of Covid kits worldwide. It’s cheap, fast – and absolutely useless. Among the fatal flaws that totally invalidate the PCR testing protocol are that the test:

• is non-specific, due to erroneous primer design • is enormously variable • cannot discriminate between the whole virus and viral fragments • has no positive or negative controls • has no standard operating procedure • does not seem to have been properly peer reviewed. Oh dear. One wonders whether anything at all was correct in the paper. But wait – it gets worse. As has been noted previously, no threshold for positivity was ever identified. This is why labs have been running 40 cycles, almost guaranteeing a large number of false positives – up to 97 percent, according to some studies. The cherry on top, though, is that among the authors of the original paper themselves, at least four have severe conflicts of interest. Two of them are members of the editorial board of Eurosurveillance, the sinisterly named journal that published the paper.

And at least three of them are on the payroll of the first companies to perform PCR testing! The 22 members of the consortium that has challenged this shoddy science deserve huge credit. The scientists, from Europe, the USA, and Japan, comprise senior molecular geneticists, biochemists, immunologists, and microbiologists, with many decades of experience between them. They have issued a demand to Eurosurveillance to retract the Corman-Drosten paper, writing: “Considering the scientific and methodological blemishes presented here, we are confident that the editorial board of Eurosurveillance has no other choice but to retract the publication.’’ Talk about putting the pressure on.

It is difficult to overstate the implications of this revelation. Every single thing about the Covid orthodoxy relies on ‘case numbers’, which are largely the results of the now widespread PCR tests. If their results are essentially meaningless, then everything we are being told – and ordered to do by increasingly dictatorial governments – is likely to be incorrect. For instance, one of the authors of the review is Dr Mike Yeadon, who asserts that, in the UK, there is no ‘second wave’ and that the pandemic has been over since June. Having seen the PCR tests so unambiguously debunked, it is hard to see any evidence to the contrary.

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Since the vaccines are useless, maybe getting infected is the only protection available?!

Study Finds 98% Of COVID Patients Still Have Antibodies 6 Months Later (ZH)

In another example of how COVID-19 research has painted a complex, and sometimes conflicting, picture of the virus and the ability of the human immune system to fight it off, a team of researchers at Japan’s Yokohama City University published research showing that antibodies in COVID-19 patients persist for six months or more, even amid a preponderance of reports warning about the risk of reinfection for many particularly vulnerable patients. A Japanese research team said Wednesday that it has detected neutralizing antibodies in 98% of people six months after they were infected with SARS-CoV-2. Another study performed in the UK found that antibodies found evidence that antibody levels start to degrade within six months.


The team, led by Yokohama City University professor Takeharu Yamanaka, is already planning to conduct a follow-up study to see whether these people will still have such antibodies a year after their infections. But in the survey data released Wednesday, researcher checked blood samples from 376 people who had already recovered – the largest study of its type in Japan. The samples were collected six months after the patients were infected. According to a report on the study published by Nippon, Yamanaka said that “in general, people with neutralizing antibodies are believed to carry a low risk of reinfection…This gives some hope” for the effectiveness of the vaccines that are soon to be delivered to the public. As the west prepares to roll out the first wave of COVID-19 vaccinations, scientists will be watching closely for more data to try an ascertain whether COVID-19 can truly be defeated, or whether it might morph into a flu-like seasonal infection.

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Yes, but: horse, barn.

Fed and Treasury Urge Congress To Approve More Virus Relief (AP)

Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin urged Congress to approve COVID-19 relief funds without further delay, though Democrats continued to attack a decision by Mnuchin to allow five Fed lending programs to expire during the pandemic. In his most direct comments so far, Powell told the House Financial Services Committee on Wednesday that it’s “very important” for Congress to provide economic support. New funding would serve as a “bridge” for the economy to get from the current environment in which virus infections are spiking, to next year when vaccines should be widely available, Powell said.

“We are trying to get as many people across that bridge as we can,” Powell said. Without more assistance, Powell said, people will lose their homes and small businesses will fail. “You could lose parts of the economy,” which would slow any recovery next year, he said. “We are hearing from all over that small businesses are really under pressure,” Powell told lawmakers. For a second day a number of Democratic lawmakers on the committee challenged Mnuchin’s decision to allow five Fed lending programs to expire at the end of this year, contending that his reading of the law was incorrect. They say it’s a political maneuver to hobble the incoming Biden administration financially.

[..] In a rare split with Treasury last month, the Fed issued a statement saying that it believed it was important to continue providing an economic backstop after Mnuchin said he was terminating the programs. Mnuchin has repeatedly insisted that he was just following the CARES Act law. When Powell was asked if he agreed with that interpretation, Powell deferred to Mnuchin. Powell did say Wednesday that the Fed had issued its statement to make it clear that the central bank was committed to providing further support to the economy. “We were concerned that the public might misinterpret (Mnuchin’s action) as the Fed stepping back and thinking our work is done,” Powell said.

Asked what Congress should put in a relief bill that could pass in the lame-duck session this month, Mnuchin said his priority would be an authorization allowing the Treasury to use $140 billion in left-over funds to provide small businesses with a second round of Paycheck Protection Program loans.

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Again: Yes, but: horse, barn.

Trump Demands Social Media Giants’ Liability Shield Be Scrapped (JTN)

President Trump said in a Tuesday night tweet that he will veto the National Defense Authorization Act if it does not eliminate Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act. Section 230 protects companies like Twitter from a range of laws and being held liable for what is said on their platform, as long as they don’t attempt to censor or enforce what speech is acceptable and what isn’t. “Section 230, which is a liability shielding gift from the U.S. to “Big Tech” (the only companies in America that have it – corporate welfare!), is a serious threat to our National Security & Election Integrity,” the president tweeted. “Our Country can never be safe & secure if we allow it to stand.”


“Therefore, if the very dangerous & unfair Section 230 is not completely terminated as part of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), I will be forced to unequivocally VETO the Bill when sent to the very beautiful Resolute desk,” Trump wrote. “Take back America NOW. Thank you!”

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“On no planet is that not news.”

CNN Caught Burying The Post’s Hunter Biden Exposé (NYP)

The collusion of mainstream media and Big Tech to censor The Post’s Hunter Biden story now is laid bare in leaked recordings of CNN’s news meetings from the time. CNN boss Jeff Zucker is heard instructing his staff to downplay the bombshell story which implicated Joe Biden in a shady foreign-influence peddling scheme, according to audio released Tuesday by undercover news outlet Project Veritas. On the morning of Oct. 14, the day we published an e-mail from Hunter’s abandoned laptop in which a top executive from corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma thanked Hunter for arranging a meeting with his then-VP father, CNN political director David Chalian is heard telling Zucker and his underlings that the news network would not cover the story.

“Obviously, we’re not going with the New York Post story right now on Hunter Biden,” said Chalian. “We’ll just continue to report out this is the very stuff that the President was impeached over . . . that Senate Committees looked at and found nothing wrong in Joe Biden’s interactions with Ukrainians.” Chalian, who oversees all CNN’s political coverage, was not being straight with his colleagues. This was new evidence reflecting on Joe Biden’s integrity, suggesting that despite repeated denials, he had met with an executive of the company which was paying his wayward son up to $83,000 a month to sit on its board, at a time when Burisma was looking for favors from the US government and he was vice president.


This was the first concrete link between Joe and his family’s shady foreign business deals and there was much more to come over the next few days, all ignored or pooh-poohed by CNN in a naked bid to protect the Biden campaign from legitimate scrutiny. Most of the rest of the media followed suit. Twitter locked the Post account for two weeks and Facebook throttled our audience reach. What made our story all the more compelling that first day was the feeble response from Joe’s campaign. Initially, they said there was no record of any such meeting on his “official schedule” but finally admitted that an “informal” meeting with Burisma may have occurred. On no planet is that not news.

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Makes sense.

Congress Passes Bill To Target Foreign Businesses Blocking US Auditors (JTN)

The U.S. House of Representatives approved legislation Wednesday that would boot businesses from China and other foreign countries from U.S. stock exchanges if they failed to give American auditors access to examine financial reports. The legislation would obligate foreign businesses to give access to U.S. auditors to scrutinize financial reports or be in danger of getting barred from trading on an American stock exchange or over-the-counter market. Politico described the bill as an aspect of a larger crackdown regarding Chinese engagement with Wall Street that has been building steam in the U.S. legislature, the White House and the financial industry.


The bill calls for the Securities and Exchange Commission to make rules to block trading the stock of businesses that have barred inspectors for three years in a row, the outlet said. “Communist China is right now using U.S. stock exchanges to exploit American workers and families—people who put their retirement and college savings in public companies,” U.S. Sen. John Kennedy said in a statement. “U.S. policy is letting China flout rules that American companies play by, and it’s dangerous.” During a press conference earlier on Wednesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Hua Chunying expressed opposition to the U.S. bill, stating that it demonstrates “the United States applies discriminatory policies to Chinese companies and launches political oppression against them.”

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Odd consequences.

Here Comes the Trucking Boom in the Weirdest Economy Ever (WS)

Boom and bust cycles are guaranteed in this business. And now, this is the Weirdest Economy Ever, powered by the $3 trillion the Fed threw at the markets, and by $3 trillion in government stimulus and bailout spending, and by a huge shift to work-from-home and learning-at-home that required all kinds of spending on laptops, network equipment, office chairs, desks, and, well, hot-tubs, and powered also by huge shifts on what consumers actually spent their money on. Spending shifted from services, such as plane tickets, hotels, gyms, haircuts, manicures, rent (encouraged by eviction bans), and mortgage payments (made possible by forbearance), to stuff.


And ecommerce is booming, and this stuff needs to be transported, much of it from overseas, and so imports are booming, and all this stuff has to then be shipped by truck or rail, and so all heck has broken loose in the container shipping business. Trucking companies, which had cut their equipment orders to the bone during the two-year-long freight recession, are now grappling with the notion of equipment shortages. And starting in September, they started ordering large numbers of class-8 trucks that haul the goods across America, and in November, orders for class 8 trucks exploded to 52,600 orders, according to FTR Transportation Intelligence, matching the prior two historic records of July and August 2018:

“The tremendous volume reflects several large fleets placing their requirement orders for the entirety of 2021 to lock up build slots, which they perceive could be in short supply next year,” FTR said in the note. Truckers are dealing with the current flood of consumer-oriented freight. And they expect the industrial-oriented freight, which is still lagging, to hopefully pick up soon. “Fleets are placing big orders anticipating needing more trucks throughout next year,” FTR said. This boom in orders was triple the number of orders in November last year, the biggest year-over-year percentage gain (199%) in years. This chart of percentage changes from the same month a year earlier also depicts the whiplash-inducing boom-and-bust nature of the industry:

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Huh, what? “..much of Syria’s infrastructure was destroyed by the blind bombing of the regime and its Russian allies..”

Assad’s Syria Is Starving Like Saddam’s Iraq (FP)

Thirty-year-old Ayman fled Damascus, Syria, for Beirut at the beginning of the Syrian civil war. Over the last year, while Lebanon’s economy collapsed and it became harder for him to find work, the conflict back home seemed to be subsiding. So he called several of his friends, all living in regime-controlled territory, to inquire if it was time to return. They were unequivocal. “They said, ‘Stay wherever you are, there’s not even enough to eat here,’” Ayman said, on condition of anonymity because of security concerns. During the nine-year civil war, much of Syria’s infrastructure was destroyed by the blind bombing of the regime and its Russian allies, as well as front-line fighting. Food production, power generation, and other industries fell by the wayside.

Syria’s economy, tethered to Lebanon’s, hobbled on for a while. However, early this year, as Lebanon’s monetary policy unraveled and capital controls were imposed to avoid a run on the banks, billions of dollars of deposits by Syrian businesses were also blocked. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad claims Lebanese banks hold at least $20 billion of Syrians’ earnings, which, if they were accessible, would resolve the Syrian economic crisis all at once. The currencies of Lebanon’s neighbors plummeted simultaneously as prices of basic commodities skyrocketed, in Syria by more than 200 percent. Life became hard for the Lebanese, but harder still for war-ravaged Syrians.


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Does he still fly, drive, buy stuff wrapped in plastic? If so, what’s the message here exactly?

Humans Waging ‘Suicidal War’ On Nature – UN Chief Antonio Guterres (BBC)

“Our planet is broken,” the Secretary General of the United Nations, Antonio Guterres, has warned. Humanity is waging what he describes as a “suicidal” war on the natural world. “Nature always strikes back, and is doing so with gathering force and fury,” he told a BBC special event on the environment. Mr Guterres wants to put tackling climate change at the heart of the UN’s global mission. In a speech entitled State of the Planet, he announced that its “central objective” next year will be to build a global coalition around the need to reduce emissions to net zero. Net zero refers to cutting greenhouse gas emissions as far as possible and balancing any further releases by removing an equivalent amount from the atmosphere.

Mr Guterres said that every country, city, financial institution and company “should adopt plans for a transition to net zero emissions by 2050”. In his view, they will also need to take decisive action now to put themselves on the path towards achieving this vision. The objective, said the UN secretary general, will be to cut global emissions by 45% by 2030 compared with 2010 levels. Here’s what Mr Guterres demanded the nations of the world do: • Put a price on carbon • Phase out fossil fuel finance and end fossil fuel subsidies • Shift the tax burden from income to carbon, and from tax payers to polluters • Integrate the goal of carbon neutrality (a similar concept to net zero) into all economic and fiscal policies and decisions


Help those around the world who are already facing the dire impacts of climate change It is an ambitious agenda, as Mr Guterres acknowledged, but he said that radical action is needed now. “The science is clear,” Mr Guterres told the BBC, “unless the world cuts fossil fuel production by 6% every year between now and 2030, things will get worse. Much worse.” Climate policies have yet to rise to the challenge, the UN chief said, adding that “without concerted action, we may be headed for a catastrophic three to five-degree temperature rise this century”. The impact is already being felt around the world. “Apocalyptic fires and floods, cyclones and hurricanes are the new normal,” he warned. “Biodiversity is collapsing. Deserts are spreading. Oceans are choking with plastic waste.”

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    Walter Langley Never morning wore to evening but some heart did break 1894   • One In Six Covid-19 Deaths In Vermont Came From A Single Nursing H
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 3 2020]

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    V. Arnold
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    Walter Langley Never morning wore to evening but some heart did break 1894

    …that picture, no, painting, resonates with me, and my experience of going to sea as a fisherman in the pacific north west, out of Coos Bay…

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    V. Arnold
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    Never morning wore to evening but some heart did break

    Those words; never more true, than for those that went to sea for their livelyhoods…

    #66345

    Polder Dweller
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    Australia and “Europe” area comparison.

    Not sure what the makers were trying to prove there. Where are Scandinavia and the Baltic states? Ukraine, White Russia, Moldavia and Russia up to the Urals?

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    Mr. House
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    watch what they do, not what they say

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/3m-announces-another-2900-job-cuts-corporate-layoffs-pile

    Still reeks of a financial crisis.

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    MrMoto
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    ‘Since the vaccines are useless’

    That’s ‘fake news’ – we don’t know that.
    The problem is not that they are useless, the problem is that we don’t know.
    We don’t know if they work, if they do work,how well they work, or how safe they are.

    All we have so far is press releases.

    They could be great – they could be useless or even dangerous.
    The ‘authorities’ will check them out of course but based on their track record so far…..

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    Mr. House
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    we don’t know that

    That sums up about all of 2020, but i haven’t heard anyone at the top admit that. They just make decrees and tell everyone else what to do after 20 years of failure. And if you question them, they gaslight you.

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    phoenixvoice
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    MrMoto — appreciation to you for pointing out that we don’t know whether any particular vaccine is helpful, harmful, etc. I get so tired of so many people stating logical fallacies and then having large swaths of people accept what is stated as fact. I was stressing to my children when picked them up from their dad’s yesterday that the biggest problem with Covid is that we simply still lack so much information about it.

    Regarding PCR testing,I find it misleading how many articles stress the “97% false positive“ narrative without bothering to include how many cycles leads to that rate, as well as some statistics on how many PCR test positive results were actually achieved at or past that threshold. In my own experience with my own household, PCR testing came back positive only on those who had (or soon after testing) developed symptoms. All other PCR tests came back negative — including follow up testing on those who had been sick with COVID after symptoms had resolved. It seems that the problem, if any, is not with the test itself, but simply that we need a protocol that determines how many cycles to run. Presto! Large false positive problem effectively eliminated. Why are none of the articles saying this? The only plausible answer I can see is this: cui bono? One group benefits from as many COVID cases as possible being discovered; the other group benefits from casting doubt on all COVID cases, and on the pandemic itself. Who doesn’t benefit from either dominant narrative? Most of us — who really just want expanded and accurate information about COVID so that we can make wise decisions regarding our own safety and the safety of those we love.

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    madamski
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    Today’s painting is a kind of visual narrative mostly neglected since we’ve developed virtual realities that appear to move and make sounds. That painting says more than most heartbreak movies I’ve seen.

    A picture says a thousand words. A movie uses several thousand words to explain a series of pictures.

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    Mr. House
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    “Most of us — who really just want expanded and accurate information about COVID so that we can make wise decisions regarding our own safety and the safety of those we love.”

    Generally, when a situation is as dangerous as the media has made this one out to be, and we handle things in that fashion, you end up dead. Somehow i’m still not dead yet.

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    madamski
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    Blogs and their comments being forward-looking things, I’ll post here this response to yesterday’s discussion:

    So an article says certain tests are useless for accurately telling if you have covid or not. The rebuttals to this reduce to equivocations that translate to ‘sometimes it is and sometimes it isn’t’. ‘It depends’, like John McCain’s infamous underwear.

    In plain vernacular man on the street logic, the rebuttals lose. Plain vernacular man-on-the-street logic is how the public mind works.

    Me, I think this whole silly squabble revolves around the unfortunate use of the word “absolute”, which is an emotionally satisfying word to use, and closer than not to accurate* when the hard facts of the data are related to the covid phenomenon, but also easy to dismiss because absolutes are ideals not realities. Even a subatomic particle is not absolutely one thing or another. It’s a phenomenon that follows a very narrow pattern in a fairly — but not absolutely — precise range.

    Let me use more accurate language: the tests SUCK. Not absolutely but enough to be insufficiently useful to be worth messing with except, perhaps, as a stage of development in covid testing. It is the public who must trust and submit to testing for tests to be useful, and the public thinks “covid test” means, well, a test to see if you have covid. Period. How silly of them, right?

    Oh, whatever shall we do when we run out of low-hanging fruit to pick on?

    ^%*

    And I still have no patience with honorifics like M.D. in an egalitarian social setting. It’s one thing to tell us you’re a doctor. It’s another thing to use it as some kind of imprimatur or letterhead. If we were discussing gender/sex issues, it would be obnoxious if my handle were madamski, P.L. (Professional Lesbian). It’s enough to say I like vaginas when relevant to the conversation.

    closer than not to accurate* like, allegedly, the tests currently under discussion.

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    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    Another point about the high false positive rate of PCR testing … if the false positive rate is so high after 40 or so cycles ( and I’m quite curious at how many cycles yields that 97% rate) is the converse also true? That a negative test after 40 cycles is, say, 97% certain to be not infected by the virus? Not all PCR tests are done to determine positivity for Covid, but rather to determine negativity for the virus. I have a friend in her 80s with her husband in a care facility. State law says that she cannot visit her husband without a negative Covid test within the prior 48 hours. As a result, she has a PCR test for Covid twice every week. (ironically, her husband already had Covid an survived without too much trouble.). If our goal is to determine who DOESNT have the virus, running dozens of cycles for a PCR test may yield extremely accurate results about who cannot transmit the virus.

    And is it such a bad thing to be quarantined? I found that friends and neighbors were willing to pick up groceries, get propane for my parents, and pick up meds from the pharmacy. Yes, it was inconvenient, but learning that I could depend on my community was both humbling and empowering. Perhaps quarantine for anyone who *might* be Covid positive — but not “lockdowns” for all — is a way to rebuild our frayed communities? If the most accurate test we have for diagnosing Covid is better at identifying who is NOT carrying the virus, rather than who IS carrying the virus, perhaps we could just flow with that until we develop a test that does the reverse and create public habits and policies around the information we have available, rather than about what we wish we had and wish we knew.

    #66357

    Mr. House
    Participant

    I think phxvoice actually still trusts our “betters”. How many lies is a lie to far?

    #66358

    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Does he still fly, drive, buy stuff wrapped in plastic? If so, what’s the message here exactly?”

    Simple: If we murder 100,000 of you, there’ll be plenty of room for me to throw plastic out the window of my jet.

    I mean: is there something wrong with my calculation here? Are we unclear on GND/WEF messaging?

    Moto: I think form yesterday, the problem was that they WERE useless…at least on their present info. Yesterday posted: “Pfizer’s vaccine “may be more than 90% effective.”
    …This sounds impressive, but the absolute risk reduction for an individual is only about 0.4%
    … So to prevent one severe illness 1370 individuals must be vaccinated. The other 1369 individuals are not saved from a severe illness, but are subject to vaccine adverse effects, whatever they may be and whenever we learn about them… Shouldn’t absolute risk reduction be reported?

    https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4471/rr-0

    So they ARE barely working even if they’re not lying (unlikely). But they may have UNLIMITED risks.

    No wonder the doctors, HCW, all said “you first.”

    “And is it such a bad thing to be quarantined?”

    Uh, yes. Silly Billy, WHO do you think is standing at the cash register all day, WHO is driving the trucks, WHO is sorting the cabbage, WHO is making the masks? If you quarantine all those guys – ‘cause right now we’re just “unscientifically” ignoring it as inconvenient – you’ll have no gas, no food, no clothes, no internet, then the lights go out. Those things continue to exist because we haven’t had the threatened “6 week hard lockdown” and half the nation doesn’t give a crap and never followed a rule in their life. (P.S. you can’t make them.)

    So would quarantine be bad? I dunno: did you stockpile that 3-year food supply like the Mormons told you to? Do you need a doctor to save your life? Did you run out of money and are in a 10-mile long food line with your kids while living in your minivan?

    Don’t shove others into a situation you won’t volunteer for yourself.

    I guess I’ll pick up from yesterday then too:

    As far as I know, hospitals here don’t use PCR for exactly this reason: it doesn’t work worth a hoot. They don’t say that, they just say it “Doesn’t fit our needs” or some such.

    Presumably they are using one of the many, many tests that DOES work, like Dr. Day says, and are able to get their own feedstocks.

    So…a year later, we have (many) tests that work and one test that doesn’t, and guess which one we’re using? And as noted, they are using both exactly as the inventor said not to, AND for a public-policy decision that it is illogical to use for, because it doesn’t tell you “Transmissible” only “Maybe-mighta had it.”

    How does this work? How in other nations/locations? They simply direct the labs to run 20x not 40x. Boom. “Cases” drop. Which some are suspecting they will suddenly “discover” there are too many false positives just about the day they release the vaccine, and reduce the number from 40, to 30, to 10, or wherever they like. Yay! Cases plummet! Vaccine works a miracle! Profits rise!!! If the Gilet Jeunes give you lip, you just “Recommend” the labs in their areas move back to 40x. Boom. Instant lockdown til they’re dead and broke, murdered like rats. You know, like they did in Greece in ’08.

    Meanwhile, hospitals, using a “better” test — i.e. one that works at all — are blissfully unaware, and all the medical Joes and Jeans remain compliant, and believing everything they read.

    So Dr. or others, look at the chart: Deaths vs Cases.
    noncases
    https://www.aier.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/casesdeaths-800×455.jpg

    If it’s NOT true, then how do we have FEWER deaths than April? And the number of cases always rises, it’s now what, 400x the number of deaths? So your “testing” for “Cases” matches exactly my theory that people are tested, and the only way they think they have Covid — because no symptoms, no deaths — is from this false positive. …The one that will kill them slowly with grinding poverty and denied access to health screenings. We have a pandemic so bad nobody knows they have the disease without a test. Few people know anyone who’s died. Homeless and drug-addicted with compromised immune systems completely untouched, happily in a box, uninfected. Huh? Yes, that’s back to your “Gold Standard” problem, another whole kettle: not only can we statistically infer it’s 90% false positives (A Pfizer epidemiologist and statistician exec published an article on this in Britain I posted) but we can’t even calibrate it AGAINST a standard. (or just refuse to)

    Yes, this still leaves the door open for my theory to have other causes, but it’s not disproven by a lot of squawking and handwaving. If anything, saying “Do as you’re told”/”I’m the expert” (Experts that mis-reported H1N1, SARS, Avian, Swine, and eBola, approved AZT and Vioxx) tells me you’re all lying liars. You said no masks. You said 15 days. You said no transmission. You said 25 million dead. You said we were only going to slow it, not stop it. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. So how about some humility when you’re dead dead wrong wrong for one year and running? I’ve been right the whole time and I’m some doofus living under a bridge, so clearly it’s not that hard. Dr. Day is neck-deep and he seems to be able to hit it right all the time, even with blackmailers circling like vultures.

    So again, no additional death rate, and a disease so deadly no one can tell when they have it. Loss of all civil rights, apparently forever. Incredible, unimaginable increases in wealth for centralists, to the tune of multi-trillion$$, and a rushed vaccine that makes less medical and scientific sense than the disease. Now no Influenza deaths, no Heart Disease deaths. It’s a miracle cure! Que? Cui bono? You figure it out.

    I’m going to go worry about things that are ACTUALLY dangerous. Like governments.
    realitybites
    https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2019/05/Causes-of-death-in-USA-vs.-media-coverage-716×550.png

    #66359

    John Day
    Participant

    Vitamin-D is useful… silence…

    I have been trying for 3 weeks to get the lab we send SARS-CoV-2 tests out to to give us information about their cycle thresholds, and if we can request a certain threshold, like 25 PCR amplification cycles…
    crickets…

    The big issue with any new vaccine is that we do not know the human cost to benefit ratio yet. From what I see so far, there are some nasty side effects and not much benefit, no reduction in hospitalizations, in healthy young people, those who are not much at risk, to begin with.
    This looks like an expensive way to get side effects. See how Obama does…
    Wait a year. Choose the lesser poison…

    #66360

    Geppetto
    Participant

    @ madamski

    Epic post! You go girl!

    Hahahahahaha!

    #66361

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Oh and yes, the John Hopkins article was removed. That’s what’s interesting.

    When the “media” used a “telephone” and asked for a “statement” the researcher said:

    “It’s all publicly available data. I retract nothing. Read it for yourself.”

    So John Hopkins retracts publicly available data now? Que pasa? They themselves did not “retract” it either, they “removed” it so as not to create “mixed messaging.” So the messaging you’re worried about is that people will read public data and connect the dots?

    #66362

    zerosum
    Participant

    What my crystal ball sees.

    Empty the prisons of inmates,… fill the prisons with seniors, seize their assets to pay for their care.

    #66363

    Kimo
    Participant

    hhhmmm…
    Vaccine effectiveness: in the 90% range
    Ivermectine effectiveness: in the 90% range

    Vaccine risk: Everyone takes it, we find out as the year goes on.
    Ivermectine risk: Take it only when you’re sick or exposed, decades of few issues.

    Am I missing something here?
    kimo

    @ DR D:
    “Don’t shove others into a situation you won’t volunteer for yourself.”
    I’d take this a step farther. Even if you would volunteer, never force others.
    It’s not socialism, rather antisocialism, if you are forced to participate.

    #66364

    Noirette
    Participant

    Humans waging suicidal war on Nature – Guterres.

    Surprising how no-one, not even Guterres (who possibly just might be considered to be in a position to do so..) mentions that WAR is a fantastically huge contributor to emissions and to temperature rise.

    This graph of global monthly air surface temp. 1880 > shows WW1 as visible, and throws WW2 in your face. Have a look.

    https://www.thegwpf.com/content/uploads/2017/07/Screenshot-2017-07-06-08.43.25.png

    source: https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf

    Other stats, ex. CO2 emissions – GG emissions – FF use, etc. show similar spikes if tallied over the long run and not too badly done, or over-smoothed, etc. – I cherry picked, using the the end-point of temperature, that is what counts after all.

    Apparently War’s pyrotechnics, all the blowing up for killing, annihilating, destroying, as well as moving, doing, industrialising, constructing, to carry out such aims — the tremendous extraction involved, endless hyper fuel use, the resulting pollution, the factory processes (‘war economy’), the crazed destruction that then ….. leads to rebuilding (more resources, more digging, burning, built in) is unmentionable.

    #66365

    MrMoto
    Participant

    Mr. House & phoenixvoice

    Exactly – we don’t know, and the people and institutions that in a functioning society should be a source of reliable information are so compromised in one way or another that who knows what ‘s really going on.

    People turn to ‘the internet’ but that is hardly an answer as it is riddled with BS.

    Like that 97% false positive thing – looks like an internet meme to me!

    #66366

    Mr. House
    Participant
    #66367

    Geppetto
    Participant

    Yo @ Mr Moto

    Appreciate it if you didn’t use the word ‘we’ when admitting your shortcomings in understanding the nature of reality. You think for yourself and I’ll do the same. Thanks.

    On that PCR thing . There is a #$%t ton of information out there about what the inventor and Nobel prize winner for the invention of the PCR test Kary Mullis has said about what it is *for*. Here’s a short little diddy, one of many:

    #66368

    So what’s your assessment? If the vaccine is not designed to prevent you from being infected, then what is its use, other than somewhat milder symptoms? Don’t people expect a vaccine, first of all, to protect them from infection? Or is the author of the article I quoted yesterday, William A. Haseltine, healthcare contributor at Forbes, just completely wrong? If he’s not, why is anybody at all talking about vaccination passports?

    #66369

    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    I’m going to bypass the testing controversy and look directly at total reported deaths in the US, with a breakdown into cause categories (respiratory, circulatory, alzheimer/dementia, etc.)
    A death from respiratory disease (as a category) is relatively easy to determine, without having to know whether it was Covid-19 or not. Looking at it this way gave some surprising results.

    As a starting point, the overall number of excess deaths (from all causes) is reportedly about 300,000 for this year so far. This amounts to roughly 0.1% of the population (one out of a thousand people), and is roughly 10% of the expected number of annual deaths in the US (based on previous years).

    This graph shows the excess deaths for 2020, which can be visualized as roughly 10% of the total deaths for the year:
    https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12022020/WeeklyExcessDeaths

    What types of diseases are causing these excess deaths? The CDC has this data, and it’s not what I expected.

    When I look at the most recent data breakdown (published yesterday by the CDC), I find it surprising that since late April of this year, the weekly deaths from respiratory diseases have been about the same as (or less than) the numbers from the previous 5 years.

    In fact, respiratory diseases are at most the third highest cause of excess deaths for the year. Circulatory diseases and alzheimer/dementia have the top spots.

    https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12022020/LargeCauseofDeathGroups
    (Excess deaths are estimated graphically by the area below the 2020 red line and above the 2015-2019 gray lines average.)

    Digging deeper within this “Circulatory diseases” category, the two largest causes of excess deaths are “Hypertensive diseases” (high blood pressure) and “Ischemic heart disease” (heart attacks, angina…)

    https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/shared/ZW4G68C4B
    (Again, the excess deaths are estimated by the area between the red and gray lines. It looks like Hypertensive diseases is the largest cause of excess deaths in this category).

    This graph brings it all together with “Total number of deaths above average since 2/1/2020, by cause of death”:
    https://public.tableau.com/profile/dataviz8737#!/vizhome/COVID_excess_mort_withcauses_12022020/Totalnumberaboveaveragebycause

    The above graph shows that when you look at the “above average” (excessive) deaths, the largest cause is not “Respiratory diseases,” instead it’s “Alzheimer disease and dementia”, and the next highest cause is “Hypertensive diseases”, followed by “Ischemic heart disease.”

    All of the “Respiratory diseases” added together into one category are shown to have caused even less “above average” (or “excessive”) deaths than Diabetes caused.

    This was surprising and illuminating to me, and I think it puts the situation into better perspective, to say the least.

    #66370

    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    As to the article about trucking and consumer goods, I will admit to having done the bulk of my Xmas shopping online this year. I get around Milwaukee on the county bus, and at the age of 53, I have well and truly lost any taste I might have had for long, long bus-rides.

    #66371

    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Is quarantining so bad? Yes … most of us don’t get paid, especially when it happens repeatedly over the course of 9 months. No paycheck = bad.

    PCR tests appear to be useful for some situations but perhaps not this particular situation? It leaves one to wonder about the efficacy of other tests the public takes for granted. Strep throat comes to mind. Little kid at dr with a sore throat, throat culture done, it’s either positive for strep or negative. Why can’t covid testing work that way? (or … is the strep test actually useful for ITS purpose?)

    Covid vaccination: mRNA vaccines that have never before been tested on humans, much less been studied to evaluate long-term impacts, are now being rolled out to the masses. For a disease that kills only a tiny percentage of the population. Anyone with a functioning brain cell can tell this is not a well- thought-out risk/reward scenario.

    Excess deaths: if there have been 300,000 in the US to date, that is about 99 people per million (check my math). With at least 40% of those deaths in nursing home residents. So about 55 people per million excess deaths outside nursing homes (sorry to be blunt, but the people in nursing homes are typically much closer to death than the general population). Can we talk about that mRNA vaccine risk again? About the absolute destruction of small businesses? Extreme job loss?

    A commenter (can’t remember who) asked the other day for a link that proves Cuomo sent covid positive people back into nursing homes. I watched the majority of Cuomo’s daily press releases last spring because I was essential staff (office environment) responsible for developing policies/procedures for reopening. Yes, Cuomo sent covid positive people back to nursing homes from the hospital. Cuomo also stated that a positive covid test could not be a reason to deny a new person entry into a nursing home. He did, however, mention that a nursing home could decline to admit a covid positive person if it was unable to take care of him/her.

    As a person who has worked in the nonprofit industry for well over two decades (no, I don’t earn much), trust me when I tell you that no entity receiving government funds wants to tell the government they CAN’T do something. That simple statement invites scrutiny and the potential loss of ALL funding. So, yes, Cuomo’s decisions put people at risk. Likely his decisions outright killed people.

    If you don’t believe me on this, go back and listen to Cuomo’s daily pressers. They’re so inspiring he’s won an Emmy.

    #66372

    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    upstateNYer: “Excess deaths: if there have been 300,000 in the US to date, that is about 99 people per million (check my math)”

    It’s actually more like 900-something people per million (or one out of a thousand people, as I commented above.)

    #66373

    Rototillerman
    Participant

    I want to dig into President Trump’s push to scrap Section 230, and the surprising support from Tulsi Gabbard (who I have generally respected in the past, and who puzzles me now). To me, scrapping Section 230 means that platforms (like Twitter, Facebook, or any web site with a comment section) would become responsible/liable for what is posted therein by the members/users/commenters. As such, I see scrapping Section 230 as a neutron bomb to completely eradicate freedom of opinion on the Internet, because no platform can take the risk of being sued for what is posted. Am I missing something?

    As I see it, the problem is not the shield from liability, no, the problem is the censorship that is occurring: the algorithmic de-promotion of inconvenient truths, the labeling of tweets as false information, etc etc. How is scrapping 230 going to fix the censorship? Am I in opposite-land? To me, the problem is that Section 230’s prohibition against censorship in return for the liability shield is being ignored and abused. As far as I can tell what is needed are court cases by those that are harmed (say, Trump, or NY Post) that challenge the platform’s censorship: “Section 230 says you can’t be held liable for your content, but you’re putting your fingers on the scale, so we’re suing your sorry ass.” Or a credible threat from the DOJ to splinter social media into a thousand little pieces if they don’t play by the rules.

    Again, am I missing something?

    #66374

    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    It’s all very well sourcing articles from RT, but how much credence would we in the Glorious West give them? Some such articles have links to “reputable” western-origin sources which can be cited, but in today’s political climate I would never cite RT directly.

    So sad.

    #66375

    Bill7
    Participant

    ‘Fascist Kabuki’, by John Steppling:

    “..Now, recent polls suggest that half of Americans reject the idea of more lockdowns. That’s a lot of people. Yet very few of those people speak up, or post opinions on social media. And this is an interesting phenomenon. There is an enormous fear of being called ‘conspiracy theorist’ or ‘anti vaxxer’ or ‘Covid truther’ etc. There is a tacit assault on the truth itself embedded in this stigmatizing. A pathologization of the search for truth. And this seems something that has arisen out of the culture of social media.

    One understands that if the law says wear a mask or be fined, then people will wear the mask. But there is no law (yet) in expressing a dissenting opinion. And this lynch mob mentality has, predictably, attracted the most virulent xenophobic and racist memes and opinions possible. Of course major social media platforms like twitter and facebook are perilously close to outright censorship now. One is labeled dangerous if one questions the narrative on the pandemic.

    Simply pointing out that the fatality rate is extremely low despite all the lurid headlines is cause for censorship on facebook. Stating facts has become, quite literally, dangerous..”

    Fascist Kabuki

    Good to see Mr. Steppling didn’t go over to the Dark Side in Mid-March; and he’s right- the correct term for
    what we’re living under now is capital-F Fascism..

    -Bill7

    #66376

    madamski
    Participant

    @ Rototillerman

    “Am I missing something?”

    Maybe this: “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider.”

    Add that many years back, FB stated a policy that it could copyright the material of anything posted on FB (that wasn’t already copywritten outside FB).

    While this doesn’t have any real teeth in publishing terms, it nonetheless means something: FB made a proprietary claim about FB user-made content, but also enjoys via Section 230, legal immunity from anything posted on FB. To my mind, this relation between these two clauses also moves toward shielding the likes of FB from any censorship they make. Pincer attack kind of strategy.

    Section 230 wiki

    &*(

    @ RT is in principle no more or less reliable overall than any other large news platform except that at this point in time, the truth of global socioeconomics and geopolitics favors Russia’s perspective and interests. In short, the truth about America and Europe generally makes Russia look good and us bad.

    RT at this point has little interest in lying to American or European readers, only to its Russian and Russian sphere readers. Even then, it has less reason to lie to tis citizens than the NYTimes etc. have to lie to their readers, because we make Russia look so good by comparison it doesn’t have to cover its ass with lies nearly so much as we do.

    #66377

    Bill7
    Participant

    madamski: I think RT is *quite a bit* more sensationalized now that it was, say, two or three years ago.
    I still read it most days, though (with images and animations turned off, TYVM), because it’s a relative
    breath of fresh air compared to Western corporate media.

    #66378

    WES
    Participant

    Rottotillermañ:

    Remember what happened to the last guy who threatened to break the CIA into a 1000 pieces?

    Yes social media is part of the CIA! They were all funded as startups by CIA money.

    #66379

    WES
    Participant

    Dr. D:

    It wasn’t so long ago that you couldn’t get tested for the virus because there weren’t enough test kits available. Up here in Ontario tests were reserved for government workers only.

    Now more people can get tested. Still not everybody.

    Your virus cases graph shows that. Yes we had a summer dip but every virus has had a summer dip. Vitamins D? So nothing new there.

    Over time doctors have gotten better at treating the virus so maybe that explains death rates not rising as fast as confirmed virus cases have.

    What I would really like to see is a graph of those who survived the virus but are still suffering long term from it.

    #66380

    MrMoto
    Participant

    @ Dr. D
    Yes that approach has been used lately to assess various drugs, treatments, & procedures and a lot of them don’t come out looking so good.. How that would work on these vaccines I’m not sure because again not much data. But should it be used – yes indeed.

    #66381

    MrMoto
    Participant

    @ Geppetto

    Oh sorry about that ‘we’. Is that some king of micro-aggression?

    You know I can’t really promise not to use it in the future so if it does happen I guess you’ll just have to mentally exclude yourself OK? You can handle that right?

    Also in the true spirit of reciprocity I hereby grant you permission to live in your own separate reality.

    #66382

    WES
    Participant

    It looks like the TAE will soon need to find a new topic to cover.

    President Biden says Americans will only need to wear masks for the first 100 days of his administration.

    Clearly the MSM will stop covering the virus and it will go away.

    The MSM media’s around the clock virus coverage has done it’s primary job, getting rid of President Trump!

    #66383

    Chris M
    Participant

    Mr. Meijer,

    I applaud you for looking deep into the truth about the virus and vaccines.

    Do you and your readers want to go down the rabbit hole further? Ready?

    Look into terrain theory. Watch the You Tube videos of Dr. Tom Cowen and Dr. Andrew Kaufman.

    As a farmer, biologist, soil scientist, and pathologist, I will tell you that what they present about terrain theory is legit. It adds clarity to all this confusion about these microscopic sophisticated molecular structures in our bodies and why they are there.

    #66384

    John Day
    Participant

    @wes:
    What if a Biden administration lasts less than 100 days?
    What if there is no Biden administration?
    What if words just come out of his mouth?

    @others: RT is better than NYT and WaPo these days.

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