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Israeli Scientist Says Covid-19 Could Be Treated For Under $1/Day (JPost)
Necessity Of Covid-19 Vaccination In Previously Infected Individuals (Medrxiv)
Covid Vaccines: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (SPR)
Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid (Denninger)
When Things Don’t Add Up (Kunstler)
China Will Test All 12 Million Wuhan Residents (F.)
Millions Are Put Into Lockdown In China (DM)
Ratcliffe: COVID Lab Leak “Very Close To A Certainty” (ZH)
AOC Calls Fellow Democrats “Cowards” On The Eviction Moratorium (JTN)
Australians Getting Ready To Overthrow Tyrannical Government (BBee)

 

 

I knew it!

 

 

“99.999% survival vs 99.974% unvaxed. But they just say 25x higher chance of dying. Lmao. So vax increases your odds by .025%. Of surviving. Hmmmmmmmm”

https://twitter.com/i/status/1422202459036999687

 

 

How successful are the vaccines so far?

 

 

Why Macron insists on vaccine passports.

 

 

$1 a day is too cheap for political gain.

Israeli Scientist Says Covid-19 Could Be Treated For Under $1/Day (JPost)

Ivermectin, a drug used to fight parasites in third-world countries, could help reduce the length of infection for people who contract coronavirus for less than a $1 a day, according to recent research by Sheba Medical Center in Tel Hashomer. Prof. Eli Schwartz, founder of the Center for Travel Medicine and Tropical Disease at Sheba, conducted a randomized, controlled, double-blinded trial from May 15, 2020, through the end of January 2021 to evaluate the effectiveness of ivermectin in reducing viral shedding among nonhospitalized patients with mild to moderate COVID-19. Ivermectin has been approved by the US Food and Drug Administration since 1987. The drug’s discoverers were awarded the 2015 Nobel Prize in medicine for its treatment of onchocerciasis, a disease caused by infection with a parasitic roundworm.

Over the years, it has been used for other indications, including scabies and head lice. Moreover, in the last decade, several clinical studies have started to show its antiviral activity against viruses ranging from HIV and the flu to Zika and West Nile. The drug is also extremely economical. A study published in the peer-reviewed American Journal of Therapeutics showed that the cost of ivermectin for other treatments in Bangladesh is around $0.60 to $1.80 for a five-day course. It costs up to $10 a day in Israel, Schwartz said. In Schwartz’s study, some 89 eligible volunteers over the age of 18 who were diagnosed with coronavirus and staying in state-run COVID-19 hotels were divided into two groups: 50% received ivermectin, and 50% received a placebo, according to their weight. They were given the pills for three days in a row, an hour before a meal.

The volunteers were tested using a standard nasopharyngeal swab PCR test with the goal of evaluating whether there was a reduction in viral load by the sixth day – the third day after termination of the treatment. They were swabbed every two days. Nearly 72% of volunteers treated with ivermectin tested negative for the virus by day six. In contrast, only 50% of those who received the placebo tested negative. In addition, the study looked at culture viability, meaning how infectious the patients were, and found that only 13% of ivermectin patients were infectious after six days, compared with 50% of the placebo group – almost four times as many. “Our study shows first and foremost that ivermectin has antiviral activity,” Schwartz said. “It also shows that there is almost a 100% chance that a person will be noninfectious in four to six days, which could lead to shortening isolation time for these people. This could have a huge economic and social impact.”

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There is none: “Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination ..”

Necessity Of Covid-19 Vaccination In Previously Infected Individuals (Medrxiv)

Employees of the Cleveland Clinic Health System working in Ohio on Dec 16, 2020, the day COVID-19 vaccination was started, were included. Any subject who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 at least 42 days earlier was considered previously infected. One was considered vaccinated 14 days after receipt of the second dose of a SARS-CoV-2 mRNA vaccine. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection over the next five months, among previously infected subjects who received the vaccine, was compared with those of previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated, previously uninfected subjects who received the vaccine, and previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated.

Results Among the 52238 included employees, 1359 (53%) of 2579 previously infected subjects remained unvaccinated, compared with 22777 (41%) of 49659 not previously infected. The cumulative incidence of SARS-CoV-2 infection remained almost zero among previously infected unvaccinated subjects, previously infected subjects who were vaccinated, and previously uninfected subjects who were vaccinated, compared with a steady increase in cumulative incidence among previously uninfected subjects who remained unvaccinated. Not one of the 1359 previously infected subjects who remained unvaccinated had a SARS-CoV-2 infection over the duration of the study. In a Cox proportional hazards regression model, after adjusting for the phase of the epidemic, vaccination was associated with a significantly lower risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection among those not previously infected (HR 0.031, 95% CI 0.015 to 0.061) but not among those previously infected (HR 0.313, 95% CI 0 to Infinity).

Conclusions: Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before. Summary: Cumulative incidence of COVID-19 was examined among 52238 employees in an American healthcare system. COVID-19 did not occur in anyone over the five months of the study among 2579 individuals previously infected with COVID-19, including 1359 who did not take the vaccine.

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“..covid vaccines do not achieve mucosal immunity (in contrast to natural infection) and serum antibody levels (i.e. antibodies in the blood) decrease within months..”

Covid Vaccines: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly (SPR)

The latest data from Israel, which has used primarily the Pfizer mRNA vaccine, indicates that vaccine effectiveness against Delta coronavirus infection and symptomatic (“mild”) disease has dropped from about 95% to about 40%, whereas effectiveness against hospitalization and severe disease (i.e. low blood oxygen levels) remains at 80% to 90% (see chart above). Importantly, in people who got vaccinated already in January 2021 (primarily the elderly), protection against infection and mild disease may already have dropped to near 0% (see chart above). Moreover, since the Delta covid outbreak is still accelerating in Israel, the effectiveness against hospitalization and severe disease may further decrease (due to lags in hospitalizations). (Update: New data from Hebrew University shows that protection against severe disease has already dropped to 80%; compared to the original 96%, this results in a five-fold increase in residual risk.)

In the UK, which has primarily used the AstraZeneca DNA adenovector vaccine, the latest estimate by researchers at University College London indicates an effectiveness against infection of about 20% and a total effectiveness against severe disease of about 60%. In very senior citizens, the effectiveness against severe disease may be even lower (due to a weaker immune response). (A substantially higher estimate by Public Health England, recently published in the New England Journal of Medicine, was based on outdated data from early June. Interestingly, the British government hasn’t updated its data on AstraZeneca vaccine effectiveness since June 13. Update: New data from PHE confirms that effectiveness against infection has dropped below 20%.)

The Israeli data shown above indicates that effectiveness against infection and mild symptoms decreases rapidly over time and reaches near-zero levels after about half a year. Most likely, this is because covid vaccines do not achieve mucosal immunity (in contrast to natural infection) and serum antibody levels (i.e. antibodies in the blood) decrease within months. Thus, the false promise of very high protection against “symptomatic infection”, found during official vaccine trials, was simply based on very high short-term serum antibody levels mimicking mucosal immunity. Conceivably, the pharmaceutical companies may even have known that this was just a (very lucrative) “flash in the pan” and not a lasting protective effect.

In contrast, protection against severe disease is achieved by lower serum antibody levels in combination with immunological memory (B cells) and cellular immunity (T cells). However, the Delta variant has already achieved partial immune evasion (as did Beta and Gamma, but not Alpha), and future coronavirus variants will likely achieve almost complete immune evasion. Thus, vaccine protection even against severe disease will likely further decrease due to new variants, or, in the very worst case, will turn into antibody-dependent disease enhancement (ADE), if high levels of non-neutralizing antibodies aggravate the infection. Indeed, this is what happened in the case of vaccines against SARS-1 and dengue fever.


Serum antibody levels after vaccination with Pfizer (blue) and AstraZeneca (red).

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An addendum to Vanden Bossche:

“There is no safe means of mass-use of non-sterilizing vaccines so long as transmission within the community does or is likely to exist.”

Well, Duh. This Is Why It Was Stupid (Denninger)

I warned everyone. Now even CNN is on it, although they (like SAGE) think we’re smarter than nature — and evolution. “They write that some variants that have emerged over the past few months “show a reduced susceptibility to vaccine-acquired immunity, though none appears to escape entirely.” But they caution that these variants emerged “before vaccination was widespread,” and that “as vaccines become more widespread, the transmission advantage gained by a virus that can evade vaccine-acquired immunity will increase.” In a word: Duh. I know I’ve been banging on this drum since Covid-19 started but it is no-less important today, especially in the context of holding people accountable for killing several hundred thousand Americans and the economic destruction they brought upon the nation.

To be sterilizing a vaccine must prevent infection. Since you never get infected you never replicate the virus and thus do not shed it. If you do not shed it the potential path of the viral life-cycle for that particular infection ends with you and thus you cannot pass on or cause a mutation. You are sterile against that disease; from the point of view of the virus you are a lifeless rock. Among commonly-used sterilizing vaccines are MMR (measles, mumps and rubella), Varicella (chicken pox), OPV (oral polio) and others. The only time that such a vaccine fails is when you do not build immunity (such as due to immune compromise.) This is extremely rare and the protection from such vaccines tends to be either decades-long or lifetime.

A vaccine that is not sterilizing permits the virus to infect you and replicate and as a result you can infect others. Technically it is not a vaccine at all (which by definition prevents infection); it is a prophylactic therapy. Such a “vaccine” instead acts to reduce or eliminate symptomatic disease. You don’t know you’re sick and you don’t get sick. You don’t go to the hospital and you don’t die. Unfortunately since you don’t know you’re sick but are infected and the virus is both replicating in you and shedding you are more-likely to spread the infection to others. All of the current Covid jabs are in this category and so is, for that matter IPV (injected polio vaccine — the original Salk discovery.) During the original vaccine trials in the summer and fall of 2020 they deliberately did not test any of the recipients for asymptomatic infections.

Only a person who developed a significant illness was tested. This has continued post roll-out with the CDC specifying that a close contact of a known case who was vaccinated did not need to quarantine or be tested until and unless they became symptomatic. They knew damn well, in other words, that the jabs were not sterilizing but did not want that data up for public debate because then those who have read history would be likely to make the connection to the present day and thus they did their level best to hide it. That has now blown up in their face with it being conclusively known that jabbed people in fact not only get infected but spread the virus to others. The problem with non-sterilizing vaccines is simply this: There is no safe means of mass-use of non-sterilizing vaccines so long as transmission within the community does or is likely to exist.

Ever. There are no exceptions. This was known to public health officials and virologists seventy years ago and is why the United States used both IPV (injected polio vaccine) and OPV (oral polio vaccine) in sequence for polio until the 1990s. OPV produced sterilizing immunity but IPV did not. OPV had a very small (but non-zero, about 1 in a million) risk of causing polio because it was a codon-deoptimized live virus which, on rare occasion, would mutate back to its virulent form in the human body. So to mitigate that risk you got IPV first in the US (to prevent systemic infection; this was non-sterilizing), then OPV which is sterilizing — that is, it prevents not only getting sick from polio but also replicating and shedding the virus, thus giving it to others along with preventing the promotion of mutations that WILL eventually escape the vaccine.

Had we done with polio what we’re doing now with Covid — IPV (non-sterilizing) use only with virus circulating in the United States — it is very likely the virus would have mutated, escaped the vaccine and killed millions in America.

Malone Arms race.

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“All that sound-and-fury for what? For vaccines that don’t work… and which, quite possibly, could leave you seriously ill, even dead?”

When Things Don’t Add Up (Kunstler)

The Covid 19 panic, which has been driving formerly civilized societies crazy for eighteen months, prompted the bringing-forth of The Science’s follow-up project: vaccines to stop the spread of the virus. Enter the scene, these vaxes did, like, a day-and-a-half after Covid-19 pirouetted onstage. Hmmmm. Could someone have been working on those vaxes backstage before the dread virus even premiered? Were patents issued for them pre-dating January, 2020? Seems so. But never mind that for now. The vaxes were rolled out to fanfares over a year ago and those moiling masses of America, the superfluous holders of bachelor’s degrees in Oppression Studies — for whom, sadly, the world had run-out of paying positions — lined up like kids at Santa’s throne in Macy’s on Black Sunday for their Moderna, Pfizer, and Johnson & Johnson jabs. Whew…! That was a close call!

Or was it? Naw, not even close, actually. Since now it turns out that the jabs don’t seem to work that well. The official story got murkier last week when the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported internally to staff (it leaked) that “fully vaccinated people might spread the Delta variant at the same rate as unvaccinated people.” Whoopsie…. In a Delta variant outbreak on Cape Cod last month, three-quarters of the infected were fully vaxed-up patients. The story got darker because The New York Times, the usually-reliable mouthpiece for The Science and his allies in “Joe Biden’s” public health bureaucracy, let slip that, “The Delta variant is as contagious as chickenpox and may be spread by vaccinated people as easily as the unvaccinated.”

Wuh-oh…! A worm the size of an Amtrak Acela train has turned in the myocarditic heart of our nation’s capital. Things have changed overnight — didn’t they see it coming? — and now the government is freaking out as it appears to have some serious ‘splainin’ to do — and right on the heels, too, of an hysterical month-long campaign to persuade the remaining unvaxed millions to submit to the needle, climaxed by threatening the obdurate “hesitants” with taking away their employment and ability to participate in commerce and social life. All that sound-and-fury for what? For vaccines that don’t work… and which, quite possibly, could leave you seriously ill, even dead?

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Chia uses nucleic acid amplification tests, not PCR.

China Will Test All 12 Million Wuhan Residents (F.)

Chinese authorities said Tuesday they will administer Covid-19 tests to all 12 million residents in Wuhan, where the first cases of Covid-19 were first reported, after the first local cases of infection by the highly contagious delta variant were reported in the city. On Monday, authorities confirmed three new delta variant Covid-19 cases in Wuhan, the first local cases since mid-May last year, Reuters reported. A city official told a news briefing that the city-wide testing was being done to screen out all asymptomatic infections and to ensure that everyone in the city was safe.


Besides Wuhan, China has detected new local infections in the nearby cities of Jingzhou and Huanggang, all of which have been linked to cases found in China’s Jiangsu province. The outbreak in Jiangsu was reportedly fueled by the delta variant which is believed to have entered the region from an infected passenger flying in from Russia. 414. That’s the total number of locally acquired Covid-19 cases China has reported since July 20, when the first infections in Jiangsu were reported. It’s unclear if all of these cases are delta variant infections.

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Zero covid is a bad idea.

Millions Are Put Into Lockdown In China (DM)

Millions of people have been placed back into lockdown in China as the country tries to contain its largest coronavirus outbreak in months with mass testing and travel curbs. The country reported 55 new locally transmitted coronavirus cases today as an outbreak of the fast-spreading Delta variant reached over 20 cities and more than a dozen provinces. The latest surge, which state media has labelled the ‘most extensive outbreak of Covid since Wuhan’, began when airport workers in Nanjing who had cleaned a plane that arrived from Russia later tested positive for the virus. Local governments in major cities including Beijing have now tested millions of residents, while cordoning off residential compounds and placing close contacts under quarantine.

While the number of cases is relatively small they are spread out across the country, prompting state media to compare it to the initial outbreak in Wuhan in 2019. The central city of Zhuzhou in Hunan province ordered over 1.2 million residents on Monday to stay home under strict lockdown for the next three days as it rolls out a citywide testing and vaccination campaign, according to an official statement. ‘The situation is still grim and complicated,’ the Zhuzhou government said. Beijing has previously boasted of its success in bringing domestic cases down to virtually zero after the coronavirus first emerged in Wuhan in late 2019, allowing the economy to rebound.

But the latest outbreak, linked to a cluster in Nanjing where nine cleaners at an international airport tested positive on July 20, is threatening that success with more than 360 domestic cases reported in the past two weeks. In the tourist destination of Zhangjiajie, near Zhuzhou, an outbreak spread last month among theatre patrons who then brought the virus back to their homes around the country. Zhangjiajie locked down all 1.5 million residents on Friday. Officials are urgently seeking people who have recently travelled from Nanjing or Zhangjiajie, and have urged tourists not to travel to areas where cases have been found.

Meanwhile, Beijing has blocked tourists from entering the capital during the peak summer holiday travel season. Only ‘essential travellers’ with negative nucleic acid tests will be allowed to enter after the discovery of a handful of cases among residents who had returned from Zhangjiajie. Top city officials on Sunday called for residents ‘not to leave Beijing unless necessary’. The capital’s Changping district locked down 41,000 people in nine housing communities last week.

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No Democrat will listen.

Ratcliffe: COVID Lab Leak “Very Close To A Certainty” (ZH)

Former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says that the lab-leak Covid-19 origin hypothesis isn’t just a “possibility,” but “more like a probability, if not very close to a certainty.” In a Monday Op-Ed, Ratcliffe excoriated China for rejecting new plans by the World Health Organization to investigate the lab-leak theory, which was “remarkable not only because of China’s continued belligerence, but also because the WHO was once complicit, caving to the CCP’s initial pressure to dismiss the lab leak theory and downplay the CCP’s coverup.” “I had access to all of the U.S. government’s most sensitive intelligence related to the pandemic. My informed opinion is that the lab leak theory isn’t just a “possibility,” at the very least it is more like a probability, if not very close to a certainty.

More than 18 months after the virus first leaked into the world, I still have not seen a single shred of scientific evidence or intelligence that the virus outbreak was a naturally occurring “spillover” that jumped from an animal to a human”. -John Ratcliffe Ratcliffe then notes that the CCP has gone to great lengths to ensure there is no “smoking gun,” and in fact – “every piece of evidence I have seen points to the pandemic’s origin being a leak out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV).” The former DNI notes that classified intelligence has since been corroborated by public reporting with further details, yet “some in the media unwittingly helped the CCP in its disinformation efforts, dismissing the lab leak theory as a “conspiracy theory,” while Facebook affixed warnings of “false or misleading” to anyone who dared speak of it.”

Ratcliffe notes that before Trump left office, he tried to balance the need to protect intelligence gathering techniques with public disclosure – culminating in the State Department fact sheet which revealed that “several researchers inside the WIV became sick in autumn 2019, before the first identified case of the outbreak, with symptoms consistent with both Covid-19 and seasonal illnesses.”

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They could all have done this months ago, especially Pelosi, but also AOC.

AOC Calls Fellow Democrats “Cowards” On The Eviction Moratorium (JTN)

New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is calling fellow Washington Democrats “cowards” for failing to extend a moratorium on evicting Americans during the pandemic, which after roughly 8 months of protection has put a reported 11 million Americans in jeopardy of losing shelter. “The House and House leadership had the opportunity to vote to extend the moratorium and there was, frankly, a handful of conservative Democrats in the House that threatened to get on planes rather than hold this vote,” Cortez said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “We have to call a spade a spade. We cannot in good faith blame the Republican Party when House Democrats have a majority.”

The White House has said it didn’t have the authority to extend the moratorium past August 31 and asked Congress to address the issue legislatively. The House vote failed Friday. The Democrat-controlled Senate has yet to vote on the matter, but likely also does not have the votes. Ocasio-Cortez, is the official leader of House Democrats’ so-called squad, the conference’s most progressive wing. Fellow squad members Reps. Cori Bush, of Missouri, Ilhan Omar, of Minnesota, and Ayanna Pressley, of Massachusetts, all slept just outside of the Capitol building this past weekend to protest the end of the ban.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi along with other key Democrat leaders have sent a letter to the White House asking it to make the order instead of Congress because they did not have the votes needed. “It is clear that the Senate is not able to [extend the ban], and any legislation in the House, therefore, will not be sufficient,” the letter reads. “Action is needed, and it must come from the administration.” The Senate is still in session, but the House is now out for the remainder of the summer. However, House members may be called back in to pass the $1 trillion infrastructure bill.

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“—Wait, Nevermind, Seems They Gave Up All Their Guns”

Australians Getting Ready To Overthrow Tyrannical Government (BBee)

Reports are coming in from the land down under that the people of Australia are getting ready to overthrow their tyrannical government—oh wait, they actually gave up all their guns. Amid the fears over the Delta strain of the virus, armed military members were patrolling the streets to make sure people were all at their correct address while helicopters and drones circled overhead to order people to go back inside if they ventured out at all in what the nation could only describe as some Orwellian nightmare. Many Aussies decided it was time to do something about the situation. “Blimey, this right here is a dog’s breakfast! No blokes gone walkabout since they brought in the military to cover us, shrimp on a barbie,” said a man who simply goes by Croc.


An American translator was found who told us that what Croc was saying was that the entire continent nation of 25 million people was living under martial law with no end in sight because a little over 900 people had died from coronavirus throughout the pandemic. “We were totally fed up with this and were all set to tell them Blokes and Sheilas to right buzz off, but then we remembered that we let the government have all our guns already,” Croc continued somberly. At publishing time, Australians were asking the aboriginals if they had any of those cool dart guns or at least some bevvies to make it through the lockdowns.

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  • #82142
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Duration of life is overrated. Living to a ripe old age is difficult, usually painful, and builds a fortune of regrets and repentances (not all of them failed). Quality of life is massively hyped, mostly as a means to sell junk products including political candidates, but in reality is way below even sub-standards. Modern life plain sucks, period. Reality is grand and fantastically meaningful and rewarding if often risky, but this world we sit and type in, it sucks. I know: I have been inside a minivan with several kids for many hours. Trut me. 😉

    Reality is, despite all this, quite readily available. JUst step off the smooth narrative track and rediscover your life’s legs… well, that’s how I do it. 🙂

    #82143

    Just finished reading Catte’s “The tests don’t work”. (Linked by Bill7)
    Yup.

    #82144
    TAE Summary
    Participant

    * The Covid Daily
    – Antigenic drift will leads to vaccine failure
    – Prophylaxis with Ivermectin protects Bulgarians
    – Finish firm patents drug with Ivermectin and Hydroxycholroquine
    – House flies spread Covid; Pelosi designates house flies as terrorists, adds additional fencing around Capitol and authorizes Capitol Police to shoot house flies on sight
    – In DC more people are murdered than die from Covid
    – Covid doesn’t kill people, the unvaxxed kill people
    – Jab produces 14 trillion spike proteins
    – More people die from car crashes than Covid
    – Stockpile IVM, HCQ and hydration
    – Fear is the best defense against Covid 19
    – The unvaxxed are under Russian mind control
    – Vaccination increases you odds of survival by 0.025%, not considering age, comorbidities and deaths from vaccination
    – Covid court cases in the making; DOJ asks CDC to help redefine what case means
    – People demand the FDA fully approve vaccines and that value of pi be set to 3
    – The vaxxed spread covid but that’s OK because they’re vaxxed
    – You may criticize the CDC, but only until you reach the bottom of the rope
    – Biden kicks off new ad campaign: Get Vaxxed or Get Doxxed!
    – Outbreaks prove vaccines work; The exceptions prove the rule
    – NY to unvaxxed: No soup, beer, movies or exercise for you!

    * Verites du Jour
    – Paper is safer
    – Solutions become the next problems
    – Discussion not possible when you insult the lame-brained idiot on the other side
    – Post length limit depends on the tree the post came from
    – People don’t want the truth, they want to win and he who comes in dead last wins best
    – Less water = less food
    – Heaven is for Muppets, hell is for Colonel Sanders
    – Turkey is not in Europe
    – Andrew Cuomo: #HimToo

    * Optimal Levels of Government
    – Self: Autocracy
    – Family: Enlightened Despotism
    – Neighborhood: Communism
    – City: Democractic Socialism
    – State: Constitutional Republic
    – Country: Libertarian State
    – World: Anarchy

    * The current goal of vaccination is to make the disease mild, not to stop the disease
    Vaccines are somewhat effective at this, but:
    – There are immediate side effects
    – Long term effects are unknown
    – ADE might happen
    – Non sterilizing antibodies allow mutations
    – Existing vaccines might not handle mutations
    – Additional jabs will be needed with unknown effects

    #82145
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “The emergency use authorizations for the vaccines now administered in the U.S. were based on just two months of follow-up data — enough to be confident that the vaccines are safe, effective, and fit for use in response to a pressing need,“

    Bullshit.

    The problem the FDA is having with their messaging is that they lied.
    Nope, never in a million years is 2 months of follow up data on a *new vaccine*; using a *new technology*, against a corona virus, a subset of viruses for which we’ve never before developed a successful vaccine, going to be enough time to determine the safety nor effectiveness of said vaccine.

    If the FDA were honest with their EUAs the messaging would have been thus:
    “According to preliminary trials with two months of data, the vaccines appear to be largely safe for about 3 months in healthy people who have not had Covid. The vaccines appear to diminish symptoms for those infected, at least for the first couple of months after becoming “fully vaccinated.” Considering that some individuals may be in a high risk category, this preliminary data may be a compelling reason to get the vaccine. Please discuss whether the vaccine is right for you with your doctor.”

    If this had been the messaging up front, then no one would be wondering why full approval takes longer. Of course, half the US population wouldn’t now be fully vaccinated.

    #82146
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Tae S outdid themself today. Bravo!

    #82151
    those darned kids
    Participant

    hmmm, last updated pour moi, yet my post is nowhere, and it tells me i have a duplicate post.

    cheque…

    #82152
    those darned kids
    Participant

    hmm, will the extra fencing really stop the flies? or will the holes be big enough to let the flies through?

    #82154
    those darned kids
    Participant

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    #82157
    those darned kids
    Participant

    there was an old speaker who swallowed a fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    #82158
    those darned kids
    Participant

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the electoral process to catch the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the media to catch the electoral process to catch the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    #82160
    those darned kids
    Participant

    there was an old speaker who swallowed william jefferson clinton to catch the media to catch the electoral process to catch the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the dollar to catch william jefferson clinton to catch the media to catch the electoral process to catch the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    #82161
    those darned kids
    Participant

    there was an old speaker who swallowed the oil to catch the dollar to catch william jefferson clinton to catch the media to catch the electoral process to catch the ways and means committee to catch the fly to catch the flu,
    oh, boohoo, boohoo, what will she do?

    #82162
    those darned kids
    Participant

    sorry, that took 6 minutes to write and 16 minutes to post.

    #82163
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    Following the collapse of the Soviet Union to a T. While distracting everyone with the scary with little death “Delta” variant.

    “In a letter to House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other congressional leaders, Yellen said she was suspending investments in the Civil Service Retirement and Disability Fund and the Postal Service Retiree Health Benefits Fund that are not immediately required to pay beneficiaries.

    A two-year suspension of the federal debt limit expired on Saturday, reinstating the cap at the current debt level of about $28.5 trillion.”

    https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-treasury-suspends-government-retirement-health-fund-payments-debt-limit-re-2021-08-02/

    #82164
    ctbarnum
    Participant

    And then these action certainly beg the question, “Why were only those two payments suspended”? Do they feel they won’t need a large payout in the near future with special thanks to the Vax, knowing many will die? Or do they just default on those payments entirely?

    #82165
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    John Day, I believe, told us awhile back how the Postal Service was saddled with an impossibly leveraged pension plan capable of financially ruining it, fwiw. It’s possible that Ms. Pelosi considered dieoff of, say, the disability demographic in her considerations, but I find it hard to believe she based her decision on this alone. For all I know, she deludedly thinks this will swing some votes from the right.

    If one removes, from the imaginary scenario, the idea that Pelosi and her ilk have a cogent plan for the consequences of their actions, their actions make more sense, I feel, for what they most resemble to me are desperate acts of the congenitally clueless.

    It’s not like she can stop military pork or welfare. Maybe she’s running out of places to strip without getting major flak for it. Maybe she closed her eyes and pinned a choice blindly with her finger.

    We make a zillion assumptions about people whose lives and careers aare mostly hidden from us, and what is revealed come through a magic smoke screen.

    #82166
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Nancy Pelosi wouldn’t stop spamming me, so I just blocked the address from which she was sending out her annoying political mass-mailings.

    #82167
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    There are numerous Catholic buildings housing priests known to have violated countless children. Everybody knows this. We are a nation of guns, it is said. This is to protect us from tyranny and each other.

    I have never heard of a militia commandeering a seminary and dispensing justice to these maladjusted doers of destruction. Haven’t even heard of a lone nut gun incident. I do recall the burning alive of parents and children in a place called Waco. Closest thing to an insurrection was a comedy review in the Capital last January 6th.

    The concept of direct action, peacefully or violently, but especially violently, has been so far removed from our sense of what is voluntarily possible that putting actual manacles on us would be liberating: we might at least recognise our abandonment of personal autonomy in exchange for Authority of the Group.

    I of course include myself in the “we”s above.

    Just a wee bit of direct action, both singly and in group concert, would change things so fast your head would turn a revolution/counter-revolution: a double-take.

    But we are silly beasts. Told not to eat the Forbidden Fruit, we plunge right in. Given a means to govern ourselves (Constitution ain’t half bad a format, you know), we quickly file politics under Boring except when prodded. (“Get out the vote!!!”)

    Not that I’m advising anyone to tilt at those windmills with an assault popgun. Certainly not urging this at all. Nor am I urging anyone not to. I’m urging people to stand in the place where they live, qeueue the R>E>M tune in your head while I sneak in a brilliant vocalist doing an old chestnut:

    I’ll Be Around

    #82168
    slimyalligator
    Participant

    Brillant, TAE Summary. I especially liked “People demand the FDA fully approve vaccines and that value of pi be set to 3”.

    #82169
    Mr. House
    Participant

    4th capital police officer has committed “suicide” who worked 1/6. Thats totally normal.

    #82170
    Bill7
    Participant

    > Following the collapse of the Soviet Union to a T. While distracting everyone with the scary with little death “Delta” variant. <

    Looks like Orlov called it right, pretty much.

    #unsurprised

    #82171
    Bill7
    Participant

    “Pandemic” = “Fog of War” (on us).

    😉

    #82172
    Germ
    Participant

    We’re gonna need a third arm!

    “Britain will offer COVID-19 booster vaccines to 32 million Britons starting early next month with up to 2000 pharmacies set to deliver the programme amid fears that the efficacy of the vaccines may begin to decline.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/europe/britain-to-offer-vaccine-booster-shots-for-32-million-next-month-report-20210802-p58eys.html

    Of course their real fear is ADE with waning vaccine ‘protection’ – they know what’s coming!

    #82173
    Bill7
    Participant

    Recent Words of Note: “offer” “asked” “eligible” …

    funny ol’ world.

    #82174
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    “ Postal Service was saddled with an impossibly leveraged pension plan capable of financially ruining it, fwiw”

    Postal Service was suddenly required to pre-fund 75 years of future retirees medical benefits. They were given 10 years to do it.
    https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/fy2010/ar2010_4_002.htm

    Many suspect this plan was designed to bankrupt the postal service.

    I always figured it was so the government in the future could tap those funds — I’m sure the federal government doesn’t actually intend for the future retirees to access those funds….

    #82175
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #82176
    Germ
    Participant

    What is this madness?!

    “Vanguard Offers $1,000 to Employees to Get Vaccinated by October”

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-03/vanguard-offers-1-000-to-employees-to-get-vaccinated-by-october

    #82177
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    “Of course their real fear is ADE with waning vaccine ‘protection’ – they know what’s coming!”

    I’m so used to viewing “them” through negativelt biased lenses that the idea of them doing something at least somewhat logica*l and relatively benign, never even occurred to me. That, me thinks, could be part of our answer for Why the huge vaxz push? Are they that stupid or that evi? questions.
    *(I said ‘at least somewhat logical’… in the way that the “fix” for the Boing Bros’ 737 disaster wasat least somewhat logical, since they weren’t going to fix the actual design flaws.)

    #82178
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Hmmm i wonder if they’ll take away your right to vote if you haven’t been jabbed

    #82179
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    Oh, youtube knows me — and us — so well. How curte that this showed up in my youtube feed:

    CDC Reports People Not Realizing They’re Dead

    ‘It seems unusual, but the persistive vegetative state from long-lerm long covid can keep people blinking and breathing days after being pronounced dead.’

    #82180
    Mr. House
    Participant
    #82181
    Bill7
    Participant

    Defining Away Vaccine Safety Signals – by Mathew Crawford
    https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/defining-away-vaccine-safety-signals

    #82182
    Bill7
    Participant

    Yeah, I saw that headline at NC.. “sloppy”, eh?

    cui bono

    #82183
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    I think the Archduke of Austria was assassinated, metaphorically speaking, again in summer/fall when, evidence strongly suggests, China/Euromerican espioanage agents caught each other doing the same thing over a very short time frame. WWIII began, as many others have said, at that point. I thoink maybe I see the cocking mechanism for that trigger?

    Needed a new feather in my tin foil fedora.

    #82184
    madamski cafone
    Participant

    ‘again in summer/fall’ of 2019

    #82185
    Germ
    Participant

    Microsoft said on Tuesday all employees, vendors and guests will be required to show proof of COVID-19 vaccination to enter its U.S. buildings, while meatpacker Tyson Foods said it was mandating vaccinations for its workforce.”

    https://www.reuters.com/business/meatpacker-tyson-foods-mandates-vaccines-workers-2021-08-03/

    #82186
    VietnamVet
    Participant

    The contradictions are piling on to one another. Microsoft and Tyson Foods requiring its employees to be jabbed does nothing to help public health. There will be transmission of the variants in the workspaces unless masking & social distancing is practiced to hinder it somewhat. Upgrading ventilation filtration, isolating workstations, UV air disinfecting, sunshine breaks, and opening windows would help more. OSHA has been prevented from implementing coronavirus work safety measures. “Profits over lives”. At best, the mandates may keep their employees and guests alive after being infected, but this has yet to be proven. This is more pandemic theatre and magical thinking that has dominated in the West since January 2020.

    #82187
    John Day
    Participant

    @MC: The spoofing of UK ships near the Russian prt was probably a thing, but the day the bombs were dropped in front of one of them by a pilot in a plane, the ship was really there, and there was a photographer on the deck.
    Interesting insight, or maybe just made-up, but still thought-provoking, about Jesus advising the apostles (I believe that’s who he was addressing) to turn the other cheek. He did expect a lot of them…
    Jesus is interesting, no matter who seems to write about him. Here’s Michael Hudson (yes, again):

    He died for our debt, not our sins

    #82188
    John Day
    Participant

    TAE Summary said:
    * Optimal Levels of Government
    – Self: Autocracy
    – Family: Enlightened Despotism
    – Neighborhood: Communism
    – City: Democractic Socialism
    – State: Constitutional Republic
    – Country: Libertarian State
    – World: Anarchy

    Nailing it to the wall, again!
    Who bells that globalist cat, again?
    To get anarchy, not just Frankfurt-School “anarchy”, but the real deal?

    #82189
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    “Australians getting ready to overthrow tyrannical government” ? Ha ha, glad this is satire.

    But I don’t like the idea that because we have “given up” our guns, then we have gone into captivity. Most people here don’t want a gun culture; this is our cultural choice and should be respected. Outsiders criticise us for being subservient and not independent enough. Not at all: we are a surprisingly patient and enduring lot, willing to put up with a certain level of abuses and insults for a better outcome.

    Only time will tell which cultural choice is the better of a bad lot.

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