Mar 232023
 


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In Moscow, Xi And Putin Bury Pax Americana (Escobar)
Multipolarity Was Triggered By The 2003 US Invasion Of Iraq (Kneissl)
Why Hypersonic Weapons Change Everything (Krainer)
EU ‘Delusional’ In Its Push To ‘Decouple’ From Russia – Austrian FM (RT)
Results Of Xi’s Visit To Russia Matter, Not Western Reaction – Kremlin (TASS)
China Gives US Advice On Ukraine (ZH)
West Wants Ukraine To Be Destroyed – Moscow (RT)
West Brings Humankind Closer To Nuclear Armageddon – Antonov (TASS)
UK’s Depleted Uranium Plan Threatens All Of Europe – Moscow (RT)
Russia Calls On US Not To Escalate Situation (TASS)
Russia, China Reject Import Of ‘Color Revolutions’ To Central Asia (TASS)
Russia and China Sign Long-Term Nuclear Deal (RT)
Macron Will Not Seek Re-election, Ready To Sacrifice His Popularity (TASS)
US Trying To ‘Cover Up’ Nord Stream Sabotage Role – Seymour Hersh (RT)
US Must Respond To Nord Stream Accusations – Mexican President (RT)
Elon Musk Urges US To Guarantee All Bank Deposits (RT)
Hunter Biden Used FBI Mole Named ‘One-eye’ To Tip Him Off To China Probes (NYP)

 

 

 

 

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Very few in the west have an overview of how the world changed last weekend.

“..the Russian position remains ironclad: demilitarization, Ukrainian neutrality, and enshrining the new facts on the ground. In parallel, the Russian Foreign Ministry completely ruled out a role for the US, UK, France, and Germany in future Ukraine negotiations: they are not considered neutral mediators.”

In Moscow, Xi And Putin Bury Pax Americana (Escobar)

What has just taken place in Moscow is nothing less than a new Yalta, which, incidentally, is in Crimea. But unlike the momentous meeting of US President Franklin Roosevelt, Soviet Leader Joseph Stalin, and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill in USSR-run Crimea in 1945, this is the first time in arguably five centuries that no political leader from the west is setting the global agenda. It’s Chinese President Xi Jinping and Russian President Vladimir Putin that are now running the multilateral, multipolar show. Western exceptionalists may deploy their crybaby routines as much as they want: nothing will change the spectacular optics, and the underlying substance of this developing world order, especially for the Global South. What Xi and Putin are setting out to do was explained in detail before their summit, in two Op-Eds penned by the presidents themselves. Like a highly-synchronized Russian ballet, Putin’s vision was laid out in the People’s Daily in China, focusing on a “future-bound partnership,” while Xi’s was published in the Russian Gazette and the RIA Novosti website, focusing on a new chapter in cooperation and common development.

Right from the start of the summit, the speeches by both Xi and Putin drove the NATO crowd into a hysterical frenzy of anger and envy: Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Maria Zakharova perfectly captured the mood when she remarked that the west was “foaming at the mouth.” The front page of the Russian Gazette on Monday was iconic: Putin touring Nazi-free Mariupol, chatting with residents, side by side with Xi’s Op-Ed. That was, in a nutshell, Moscow’s terse response to Washington’s MQ-9 Reaper stunt and the International Criminal Court (ICC) kangaroo court shenanigans. “Foam at the mouth” as much as you like; NATO is in the process of being thoroughly humiliated in Ukraine.

During their first “informal” meeting, Xi and Putin talked for no less than four and a half hours. At the end, Putin personally escorted Xi to his limo. This conversation was the real deal: mapping out the lineaments of multipolarity – which starts with a solution for Ukraine. Predictably, there were very few leaks from the sherpas, but there was quite a significant one on their “in-depth exchange” on Ukraine. Putin politely stressed he respects China’s position – expressed in Beijing’s 12-point conflict resolution plan, which has been completely rejected by Washington. But the Russian position remains ironclad: demilitarization, Ukrainian neutrality, and enshrining the new facts on the ground. In parallel, the Russian Foreign Ministry completely ruled out a role for the US, UK, France, and Germany in future Ukraine negotiations: they are not considered neutral mediators.

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“..orientation comes from Orient.”

Multipolarity Was Triggered By The 2003 US Invasion Of Iraq (Kneissl)

In the run-up to the Iraq invasion, there was a great deal of division among UN Security Council (UNSC) members. US Secretary of State Colin Powell presented questionable evidence of Iraq’s possession of weapons of mass destruction, while the foreign ministers of Germany and France publicly opposed the aggression, for which they occasionally received applause in the Council. China and Russia, who vehemently opposed the war, began coordinating their decisions and responses, in part because of their respective oil interests in Iraq. This cooperation between Moscow and Beijing set the stage for a coordinated multilateral approach between the two nations. Both governments understood that a war would open Pandora’s box, leading to the collapse of Iraqi institutions and resulting in widespread regional disharmony.

Unfortunately, this is precisely what happened. The subsequent years saw weekly attacks, an expansion of Salafi terror groups like Al Qaeda, the rise of ISIS in 2014, and perpetual internal Iraqi conflict. Anyone familiar with the country‘s conditions was aware of the looming catastrophe when the illegal invasion of Iraq began on 20 March, 2003. Twenty years to the day, Chinese President Xi Jinping will embark on a three-day state visit to Moscow, and the focus will extend beyond bilateral energy relations, which have been a consistent priority since 2004. As previously stated in their joint declaration in Beijing in February 2022, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart aim to coordinate their foreign policy and advance it together. Their discussions may also touch on the Ukraine dossier, although media expectations in the west may be overestimated.

It may be pure coincidence that the meeting coincides with the 20th anniversary of the Iraq invasion. Yet it also highlights how extensively Russian and Chinese strategies have intertwined over the past two decades. Today, increasingly, “orientation comes from Orient.” Cooperative geostrategic leadership and sound alternative propositions to resolve global conflicts are being shaped in Beijing and Moscow – because the old centers of power can offer nothing new. Twenty years after the US invasion of Iraq, a failed ‘war on terror,’ the proliferation of extremism, millions of dead and displaced in West Asia, and never-ending conflict, China and Russia have finally teamed up to systematically advance their view of the world, this time with more resolve and global clout.


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“Russia is the only country in the world that has deployment-ready hypersonic missiles – not one but three types..”

Why Hypersonic Weapons Change Everything (Krainer)

It was in 2018 that Vladimir Putin took the stage to present Russia’s new hypersonic weapons. The term “hypersonic” refers to missiles that fly at speeds of 5 mach and higher. At the time, many in the west dismissed Putin’s claims and thought it was a bluff. We now know that he wasn’t bluffing. Russia is the only country in the world that has deployment-ready hypersonic missiles – not one but three types: Zircons, Kinzhals and Avantguards. Domazet explained why these weapons are radical game changers in warfare. Namely, in World War 1, tanks were the game changing military technology. Since World War 2, it’s been the air-force. Aircraft carrier strike groups have been an irresistible force wherever they travelled, dominating the seas ever since. But hypersonic precision missiles have rendered that force obsolete overnight.

The main military front in today’s global conflict, according to Domazet, are the Anti-Ballistic (ABM) batteries which the US has set up on the Poland-Romania axis, and the Russians on the North Pole-Kaliningrad-Crimea-Syria axis. These are defensive systems, conceived to intercept incoming nuclear missiles (though they can easily be converted to offensive nuclear missiles). However, today’s ABM systems are only effective against missiles flying at speeds up to mach 3.5 (3.5 x the speed of sound). Russia’s new Kinzhal missile flies at speeds of mach 12 to mach 15 and nothing in western defensive arsenals can stop its strike. During the war in Ukraine, Russia staged a stunning demonstration of its power.

The first Kinzhal strike, delivered one month after the beginning of hostilities in Ukraine, was perhaps the most significant: Russian forces targeted a large weapons depot in Ukraine which had been built during the Soviet times to withstand a nuclear strike. It was buried 170 meters (over 500 ft) underground and protected by several layers of armored concrete. The Kinzhal flies at altitudes of between 20 and 40 km, with a maximum range of 2,000 km. When above target, it dives perpendicularly and accelerates to 15 mach, generating enormous kinetic energy in addition to its explosive payload. That first strike with a single Kinzhal missile destroyed Ukraine’s nuke-proof underground weapons depot. This was a message for the west.

[..] Western intelligence estimated that Russia had some 50 Kinzhals at the start of the war in Ukraine, and thus far it has used only 9 of them. Last week, they fired six Kinzhals in a single salvo. That too, was a message. Here’s how Domazet explained it: United States have 11 aircraft carrier strike groups. Of these, fewer than half will be active at any one time (while others are in dock for maintenance, or in preparation). Firing six Kinzhals in one go is military-speak for, “we have the capability to sink ALL of your aircraft carriers at once.”

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“91% of Western companies are still in Russia and doing what is sensible: waiting, containment, ring fencing.”

EU ‘Delusional’ In Its Push To ‘Decouple’ From Russia – Austrian FM (RT)

Russia will always remain important for Europe, Austria’s foreign minister told Reuters on Wednesday as he defended Raiffeisen Bank’s continued operations in the sanctioned country. Alexander Schallenberg made his comments after the US sanctions authority launched a probe into the Austrian lender over its business related to Russia last month. “Let’s get real,” he said. “91% of Western companies are still in Russia and doing what is sensible: waiting, containment, ring fencing.” Raiffeisen Bank International is Austria’s second-largest lender and, despite sanctions, still plays a critical role in the Russian economy.


It’s one of only two foreign banks on the Russian central bank’s list of 13 systemically important credit institutions. The other is UniCredit, a pan-European commercial bank. “To think that there won’t be Russia anymore and we can decouple in all areas is delusional,” Schallenberg told Reuters, adding that while Austria would loosen ties, this “can’t happen overnight.” Schallenberg also discouraged Europe from introducing further sanctions against Russia. “It is a very blunt weapon,” he said. “We’ve had massive sanctions packages. Give them time to work.”

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“Dmitry Medvedev [..] pointed out that he was pleased that most Westerners were furious about Russia-China high-level talks..”

Results Of Xi’s Visit To Russia Matter, Not Western Reaction – Kremlin (TASS)

It is the results of Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to Russia that matter, not the Western coverage that was predictably hostile, Kremlin Spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday. “Undoubtedly, the most important thing is not the West’s reaction after all, but the results of these talks that have taken place. The main thing is the results of the state visit itself,” the Kremlin spokesman said. “As for the reaction of the Western countries, it is practically on all issues nothing but unfriendly and deeply hostile, this is not a secret to anyone. The coverage of this important visit is not an exception,” Peskov stressed.


Chinese President Xi Jinping was on a state visit in Russia from March 20 to 22. On Monday, he had a tete-a-tete informal meeting with Putin, which lasted for 4.5 hours. On Tuesday, the Chinese leader met with Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin and then arrived in the Kremlin for official talks with Putin. The leaders signed two joint statements after the talks. They both pointed out that the talks were successful. Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev, who was part of the expanded circle of Russian delegates at the talks, pointed out that he was pleased that most Westerners were furious about Russia-China high-level talks.

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“..contrary to popular assumptions in the West, the global community stands by China on the side of diplomatically pursuing peace.”

China Gives US Advice On Ukraine (ZH)

Putin had told Xi that the peace plan “correlates to the point of view of the Russian Federation”; but the message out of Biden officials was “don’t be fooled” as it’s all about Moscow seeking to “freeze the war on its own terms,” in the words of Secretary of State Blinken. Also on Tuesday, NSC spokesman John Kirby said China is not an impartial mediator and that China “keeps parroting the Russian propaganda”. On Wednesday the Chinese foreign ministry hit back, charging that Washington is “adding fuel to the fire” of the conflict by its “continuous supply” of weapons to the battlefield. Spokesman Wang Wenbin was asked directly about Kirby and Blinken’s comments from the day prior.

“The US side claims that China’s stance isn’t impartial. But is it impartial to continuously supply weapons to the battlefield? Is it impartial to constantly escalate the conflict? Is it impartial to allow the effects of the crisis to spill over globally?” Wang said. “We advise the American side to rethink its own stance on the Ukraine issue, turn away from the erroneous path of adding fuel to the fire, and stop shifting the blame to China,” he added. The spokesman further insisted Beijing has “no selfish motives on the Ukraine issue, has not stood idly by… or sought profit for itself,” but that “what China has done boils down to one thing, that is, to promote peace talks.” He went on to assert that contrary to popular assumptions in the West, the global community stands by China on the side of diplomatically pursuing peace. According to a transcript:

“On the Ukraine issue, voices for peace and rationality are building. Most countries support easing tensions, stand for peace talks, and are against adding fuel to the fire. This is also China’s position. President Xi Jinping’s visit to Russia is a journey of friendship, cooperation and peace. It has been warmly received internationally. We call on the US to reflect on its own role in the Ukraine issue, stop fueling the flames, and stop deflecting the blame on China.”

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“..if London follows through with its plans, then “Russia will be forced to react accordingly, bearing in mind that the collective West has already started to use weapons with a nuclear component.”

West Wants Ukraine To Be Destroyed – Moscow (RT)

The British government’s plans to send depleted uranium shells to Kiev for use in the conflict with Moscow show that Western claims of caring about peace and the future of Ukraine are lies, the Russian Foreign Ministry’s spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has claimed. Speaking to Radio Sputnik on Wednesday she insisted that the statement by London is a sign of the “absolute recklessness, irresponsibility and impunity” of the US and Britain when it comes to international affairs. She stressed that munitions containing depleted uranium are not only more powerful and have greater penetrating ability, but they also contaminate the soil with radiation, delivering lasting damage to the environment and affecting many generations of people living in the area.

“Everything that we hear from those countries [the US and UK] about peace, the settlement of the conflict, the future of Ukraine, the well-being of the Ukrainian people – it’s all a lie, falsehood and absolute disorientation of the international community. In reality, the goal is completely different,” Zakharova said. After the UK announced plans to supply armor-piercing depleted uranium shells to the Kiev government, “there can’t be any doubts that we’re talking about is the strongly pronounced intention of the collective West, headed by the US and Britain, to see Ukraine completely destroyed,” she stressed. On Monday, Annabel Goldie, the UK Minister of State for Defense, said that “alongside our granting of a squadron of Challenger 2 main battle tanks to Ukraine, we will be providing ammunition including armor-piercing rounds which contain depleted uranium.”

According to the official, such ammunition should be sent to Kiev because it is “highly effective in defeating modern tanks and armored vehicles.” The announcement by Goldie is “yet another British provocation,” which is aimed at escalating the conflict in Ukraine to a new level, Zakharova said. It’s no coincidence that it was made during the visit of Chinese President Xi Jinping to Moscow for talks with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, which were focused on international stability and the Chinese peace initiative for Ukraine, she suggested. The rounds containing depleted uranium are actually “weapons of mass destruction with a nuclear component,”the spokeswoman insisted, adding that “the WMD issue is part of Anglo-Saxon logic of destabilizing the global international situation.” She recalled how Washington’s unsubstantiated claims that the government of Saddam Hussein had been in possession of weapons of mass destruction became a pretext for the US invasion of Iraq in 2003.

She also noted that NATO had used munitions with depleted uranium during its bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999. “Some 15 tons of depleted uranium 238” were dropped on Yugoslav territory back then, and Serbia is still suffering from the fallout, reporting record numbers of some forms of cancer, Zakharova added. After the announcement of the deliveries of shells with depleted uranium to Ukraine, “we have no grounds anymore to doubt in principle who stands behind the activation, the launch of the conflict in Ukraine in all its phases. It is certainly the NATO-centric collective West, which is headed, in the first place, by the US and UK,” she insisted. Speaking about the issue on Tuesday, President Putin warned that if London follows through with its plans, then “Russia will be forced to react accordingly, bearing in mind that the collective West has already started to use weapons with a nuclear component.”

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“There is a continuous flow of lethal weapons to Ukraine, which are used to annihilate civilians, residential areas, schools, hospitals, kindergartens..”

West Brings Humankind Closer To Nuclear Armageddon – Antonov (TASS)

Western countries led by the US have decided to bring the humankind to the brink of a nuclear Armageddon, Russia’s Ambassador to the US Anatoly Antonov said in Washington on Wednesday. He was responding to statements by US officials that depleted-uranium munitions are a standard type of weapons that’s been used for decades and doesn’t pose any heightened risk. “Commenting on this kind of nonsense is really hard. US officials have reached a new low with their irresponsible statements. There is a continuous flow of lethal weapons to Ukraine, which are used to annihilate civilians, residential areas, schools, hospitals, kindergartens,” Antonov said, according to a statement from the embassy.


“It seems that the enlightened West, led by Washington, has irrevocably decided to bring humanity to a dangerous line, beyond which a nuclear Armageddon is looming ever more distinctly.” According to a statement published on Monday, UK Minister of State for Defense Annabelle Goldie wrote in response to an inquiry from a member of the House of Lords that the British government would send Ukraine munitions containing depleted uranium and featuring enhanced effectiveness against armored vehicles. Russian President Vladimir Putin said Tuesday that Russia will have to react appropriately to the fact that the “collective West begins using weapons with a nuclear component.”.

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“..depleted uranium munitions, which can contaminate the battlefield and cause health risks for generations to come..”

UK’s Depleted Uranium Plan Threatens All Of Europe – Moscow (RT)

The British decision to supply depleted uranium munitions to Kiev is part of a dangerous trend that makes the Ukraine conflict a threat to the whole of Europe, Russian State Duma Chairman Vyacheslav Volodin has warned. “The war to the last Ukrainian could become a war to the last European,” the politician said in a social media post. Numerous Russian officials have claimed that Kiev’s Western backers are prepared to sacrifice every Ukrainian for their geopolitical interests. Volodin argued that Kiev’s acquisition of depleted uranium munitions, which can contaminate the battlefield and cause health risks for generations to come, could become a stepping stone to even more dangerous weapons. The next step “could be the use of a dirty bomb by the Kiev regime or the deployment of a tactical nuclear weapon,” added Volodin.

President Vladimir Putin expressed concern about the British decision earlier this week, warning that Russia “will be forced to react accordingly, bearing in mind that the collective West has already started to use weapons with a nuclear component.” The Russian military claimed last October that two organizations in Ukraine had been given instructions to build a so-called ‘dirty bomb’, using materials that Kiev has had access to since it was part of the Soviet Union. The Russian Defense Ministry provided a list of locations in Ukraine where nuclear fuel and nuclear waste is present. A dirty bomb has a conventional explosive core surrounded by a radioactive jacket, and when detonated, it causes serious contamination.

Kiev denied the allegations and invited the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the UN’s nuclear watchdog, to inspect several of its atomic facilities, including the Eastern Mineral Enrichment Plant in Dnepropetrovsk Region and the Institute for Nuclear Research in the Ukrainian capital. IAEA Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi reported in November that monitors found no evidence of undeclared activities at those two locations or a third site, a rocket-building plant in the city of Dnepr. The British government announced on Monday that it will send Ukraine armor-piercing rounds containing depleted uranium, alongside Challenger 2 main battle tanks that had already been promised.

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“They consider supplying the Kiev regime with even more lethal, longer-range, modern sophisticated systems. Thus, the United States once again shows itself as a party directly involved in the conflict..”

Russia Calls On US Not To Escalate Situation (TASS)

Russia urges the United States not to continue down the path of escalation, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov told reporters on Wednesday, commenting on the US Congress’ calls to supply Kiev with cluster munitions. “We call on the US side not to escalate,” he said, answering a question from TASS. The senior diplomat also pointed out that the US once again proved its direct involvement in the Ukrainian crisis by supplying Kiev with more and more lethal weapons. “They consider supplying the Kiev regime with even more lethal, longer-range, modern sophisticated systems. Thus, the United States once again shows itself as a party directly involved in the conflict,” the diplomat said.


Ryabkov pointed out that the US Congress didn’t even realize “what consequences such an initiative could lead to for the security of the US-led NATO and for any chances of potentially normalizing relations with Washington.” The Politico newspaper reported earlier that four high-ranking Republicans in the US Senate and the House of Representatives sent US President Joe Biden a letter, urging the American leader to supply Ukraine with cluster munitions.

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“The sides are ready to strengthen mutual coordination to support Central Asian countries’ efforts to ensure their sovereignty and national development..”

Russia, China Reject Import Of ‘Color Revolutions’ To Central Asia (TASS)

Russia and China reject attempts to organize “color revolutions” and foreign interference into domestic affairs of Central Asian countries, according to the joint statement signed by Russian and Chinese Presidents, Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, after their talks in Moscow on Tuesday. “The sides are ready to strengthen mutual coordination to support Central Asian countries’ efforts to ensure their sovereignty and national development. They reject attempts to import ‘color revolutions’ and foreign interference into regional affairs,” the statement reads. The two leaders also lauded the positive contribution of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) to regional security and the potential of cooperation between the CSTO and China to ensure peace and stability in the region.

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“China already operates five Russian nuclear reactors and currently has four more under construction..”

Russia and China Sign Long-Term Nuclear Deal (RT)

Russia and China are deepening their partnership in nuclear energy and will draw up a roadmap for cooperation in developing so-called fast-neutron reactors for decades to come, Russia’s state-run nuclear energy giant Rosatom announced on Wednesday. According to the company, the comprehensive program lays the ground not only for bilateral cooperation, but will essentially influence the shape of the global nuclear energy sector. The document signed between Rosatom and the China National Nuclear Corporation covers “key areas” and is focused on expanding current cooperation as well as launching new projects “related to fast-neutron reactors, the production of uranium-plutonium fuel and the management of spent nuclear fuel.”


The announcement of a long-term nuclear deal came among a raft of agreements presented during a three-day visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping to Moscow. China already operates five Russian nuclear reactors and currently has four more under construction, which makes Russia the largest nuclear supplier to the country. Last year, Rosatom launched the construction of the Xudabu-4 reactor and the Tianwan-8 reactor in the Jiangsu province in eastern China. The reactors will be powered by third-generation pressurized water reactor technology supplied by Rosatom, with operations set to begin between 2026 and 2028, according to the agreement. The cost of construction at each site is estimated to be $1.7 billion.

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He should just leave.

Macron Will Not Seek Re-election, Ready To Sacrifice His Popularity (TASS)

French President Emmanuel Macron said on Wednesday against the backdrop of the pension reform unfolding in the country that he was ready to sacrifice his popularity for France’s interests as he did not intend to be re-elected. “I am not going to do another term, I cannot do it according to the Constitution. Between the opinion polls and the interests of the country I will choose the latter,” he told the TF1 and France-2 TV channels in an interview. “If I have to face unpopularity, I am ready for it,” he added. The head of the state admitted that he had a responsibility to “settle the understandable anger”, however, he pointed out that this anger should not turn into violence, which he said was unacceptable.


“Rallies, the participants of which show protest – this is legal. But its legality should not exceed the legality of democratic decisions, which come to life through the decisions of the people’s deputies,” Macron said. A draft pension reform to raise the retirement age in France from 62 to 64 years was presented in January. This initiative sparked rallies and strikes across the country. On March 16, the head of the French cabinet, Elisabeth Borne, used her constitutional powers and announced that the bill would be adopted without a vote in the National Assembly (the lower house of parliament). This decision sparked a new wave of rallies, which often ended in clashes with the police.

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US Trying To ‘Cover Up’ Nord Stream Sabotage Role – Seymour Hersh (RT)

Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh claims the US intentionally provided false stories to the media to cover up Washington’s involvement in the destruction of Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline. In a post on his Substack blog, the veteran reporter claims the CIA was tasked with preparing a cover story in collaboration with German intelligence to provide the American and German press with an “alternative version” of the Nord Stream 2 explosions. “In the words of the intelligence community, the agency was ‘to pulse the system’ in an effort to discount the claim that Biden had ordered the pipeline’s destruction,” Hersh wrote, citing an anonymous source with access to diplomatic intelligence. He noted that the CIA had completed its task and, with the help of Germany, planted stories in the New York Times and German weekly Die Zeit. These referred to a supposed “ad hoc ‘off the books’ operation” carried out by a “pro-Ukrainian group,” which allegedly used a luxury sailing yacht to plant explosives on the Nord Stream pipelines.


“It was a total fabrication by American intelligence that was passed along to the Germans, and aimed at discrediting your story,” a source within the American intelligence community reportedly told Hersh. “The disinformation professionals inside the CIA understand that a propaganda gambit can only work if those on receiving are desperate for a story that can diminish or displace an unwanted truth. And the truth in question is that President Joe Biden authorized the destruction of the pipelines,” he added. In February, Hersh published a bombshell report on last September’s Nord Stream 1 and 2 gas pipeline blasts, accusing Washington of orchestrating the attack. The White House denied responsibility. Last week, several Western media outlets claimed the culprits may have been linked to Ukraine. Moscow dismissed the reports as “a coordinated media hoax campaign.”

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“the US has “never been ones to indicate that we are the government of the world or some kind of edict like that.”

US Must Respond To Nord Stream Accusations – Mexican President (RT)

Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has argued that the US should respond to allegations that it sabotaged the Nord Stream pipelines. The remarks came as the Mexican leader hit out at Washington following criticism of his country. “If we are talking about acts of violence, how is it that an award-winning journalist in the United States claims that the US government sabotaged the gas pipeline from Russia to Europe?” Lopez Obrador asked during a press conference on Tuesday. The Mexican president was referring to claims by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh that the Biden administration blew up the Nord Stream pipelines linking Russia and Germany last year. Lopez Obrador’s remarks came as part of a rebuttal to accusations of “violence” by Mexican authorities, made in an annual human rights report issued by the US State Department this week.

The report alleged “significant human rights issues” in Mexico and cited “credible reports” of unlawful or arbitrary killings by the police, as well as torture and forced disappearances. Lopez Obrador rejected the findings as “lies,” and noted Washington’s own list of alleged wrongdoings. According to the Mexican president, that includes the US extradition demands against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, who remains in detention in the UK. In addition, Lopez Obrador pointed to failed American efforts to halt the opioid crisis plaguing the country, which caused over 71,000 deaths in 2022 alone from fentanyl-linked overdoses and drug poisonings. The Mexican leader went on to argue that “lying” and “politicking” is in Washington’s nature, and asserted that the US “do[es] not want to change, so they believe they are the government of the world, and they only see the speck in someone else’s eye and not the beam in their own.”

State Department deputy spokesperson Vedant Patel responded to Lopez Obrador’s remarks by insisting that the US has “never been ones to indicate that we are the government of the world or some kind of edict like that.” Patel suggested that the Mexican police, military, and other government structures were responsible for serious acts of corruption and unlawful killings, which is why these issues were highlighted in the State Department report. Lopez Obrador, however, has repeatedly insisted that there is an “anti-Mexico” conservative element within the US government that is trying to inflame tensions between the two countries. “Mexico is safer than the United States,” Lopez Obrador insisted earlier this month.

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“..Moody’s downgraded its outlook for the US banking system from ‘stable’ to ‘negative,’ citing the “rapidly deteriorating operating environment.”

Elon Musk Urges US To Guarantee All Bank Deposits (RT)

Elon Musk has proposed a solution to the current banking crisis in the US. The government must do away with the current $250,000 insurance cap on all deposits to stop panicking clients from withdrawing their money, the Tesla CEO wrote in a Twitter post on Tuesday. His comments come in response to a media report that US officials are studying ways to temporarily insure deposits beyond the current limit, without having to get approval from Congress. “Absolutely required to stop bank runs,” Musk wrote. The banking crisis began in the US earlier this month with the sudden collapse of Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), a major US lender focused on the tech and startup sectors. Over 92% of deposits in the bank were uninsured and the lender was shut down by regulators after massive deposit outflows.

SVB’s failure caused the closure of another lender, Signature Bank. Panicked customers have withdrawn tens of billions of dollars in cash from the smaller banks and placed them with bigger lenders. The billionaire entrepreneur and head of Tesla, Twitter and SpaceX, first proposed the idea last week. “FDIC needs to change to unlimited coverage to stop bank runs… Right now,” he wrote on March 18. The government has guaranteed all deposits of SVB and Signature Bank customers. However, according to a recent study, nearly 200 American banks are facing similar risks. SVB, like many other banks, had invested billions in US government bonds when interest rates were at near-zero and suffered losses when the Federal Reserve hiked them in a bid to curb inflation.

The failures of SVB and Signature Bank sent ripples across the entire US banking industry. Many other financial institutions have seen their stocks plunge, with the six largest Wall Street banks losing around $165 billion in market capitalization, or some 13% of their combined value. Last week, credit ratings agency Moody’s downgraded its outlook for the US banking system from ‘stable’ to ‘negative,’ citing the “rapidly deteriorating operating environment.”

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“..Ye offered Hunter $1 million to be his “private counsel” and flew to China, leaving his wife, daughter, son, mother, and nanny in his $50 million penthouse at 15 Central Park West. He was detained in Shanghai three months later and disappeared.”

Hunter Biden Used FBI Mole Named ‘One-eye’ To Tip Him Off To China Probes (NYP)

Hunter Biden had an FBI mole named “One-Eye” who tipped off his Chinese business partners that they were under investigation, according to an Israeli energy expert arrested in Cyprus last month on gunrunning charges. The House Oversight Committee is investigating the explosive claims by Dr. Gal Luft, a former Israel Defense Forces lieutenant colonel with deep intelligence ties in Washington and Beijing, who says he was arrested to stop him from revealing what he knows about the Biden family and FBI corruption — details he told the Department of Justice in 2019, which he says it ignored. Luft, 56, first made the claims on Feb. 18 on Twitter, after being detained at a Cyprus airport as he prepared to board a plane to Israel.

“I’ve been arrested in Cyprus on a politically motivated extradition request by the U.S. The U.S., claiming I’m an arms dealer. It would be funny if it weren’t tragic. I’ve never been an arms dealer. “DOJ is trying to bury me to protect Joe, Jim, and Hunter Biden. “Shall I name names?” Luft remains in jail awaiting extradition to the US over what he says are trumped-up charges of arms trafficking to China and Libya, and violations of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. Through his American lawyer, Robert Henoch, Luft said he tried four years ago to inform the DOJ that Chinese state-controlled energy company CEFC had paid $100,000 a month to President Biden’s son Hunter and $65,000 to Joe’s brother Jim, in exchange for their FBI connections and use of the Biden name to promote China’s Belt and Road Initiative around the world.

Luft learned about the scheme through his own relationship with Hunter’s Chinese business partners, Patrick Ho and Ye Jianming, the chairman of CEFC. From 2015 to 2018, Luft organized international energy conferences in partnership with Ho’s think tank, the nonprofit China Energy Fund Committee (CEFC-USA), a front organization for Ye’s CEFC. Ye confided to Luft that Hunter had an informant in the FBI “or formerly of the bureau, extremely well placed, who they paid lots of money to [provide] sealed law enforcement information,” says Henoch. The FBI mole was called “One-Eye.” “One-Eye” told Ye that the Southern District of New York was investigating him and/or Ho in late 2017, and that “an Asian, an African, and a Jewish guy” were named on a sealed indictment, says Henoch. Soon after that tipoff, Ye offered Hunter $1 million to be his “private counsel” and flew to China, leaving his wife, daughter, son, mother, and nanny in his $50 million penthouse at 15 Central Park West. He was detained in Shanghai three months later and disappeared.

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  • #131899
    TheTrivium4TW
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    >>It was around 15 years ago when I first ran across the idea that the moon landings were faked. <<
    Rothschild Questioner: Is it impossible to cross the van alan belt?
    Rothschild Response: Of course!

    Rothschild: For me, I am a man of honor. I have committed to tell the truth and I do. If you can’t formulate a question of importance, how is that MY issue? Keep in mind that there is no universal question for each bloodline has its own unique path and current state of development. How could it be otherwise?

    R Questioner: Have you been to another planet?
    Rothschild: That question presupposes that there ARE other planets

    No follow up question. Rothschild was right about his questioners not being too bright!

    Yes, he was real. He knew waaaaay too much.

    Rothschild: Truly, there is much disinformation out there, but we do not even need to dirty our hands…for the large part.
    You little people are adept at offering opinions on things of which you have no real knowledge. Very adept.
    Look at the stock market. The objective is to get the worthless fiat out of the serfs hands, not make a profit!
    Why would those who own the fiat creation have to work to get more! Silly!
    The market exists to get worthless fiat out of the hands of the little people, and for no other reason. And it is very easy to do. Think about how the markets work!
    I offer you this…. If you can figure out the mechanism by which this is accomplished, I will fill in the blanks and you SHOULD be able to help your bloodline with some crisp, new fiat!
    Laughing out loud!
    That just sounds silly to me!

    BTW, you can learn the truth of his statement the easy way, or the hard way!

    #131900
    Oroboros
    Participant

    A note about the hypersonic weapons

    They can strike at any angle, think sending one near horizontal into a mountain railroad tunnel entrance or like Cheyenne Mountain in Colorado Springs.

    Go for the path of least resistance.

    Mass X Speed = Potential Energy

    A tungsten or DU core adds a lot of Mass to a projectile, not that hypersonic missiles use them, I don’t know, just saying.

    When the comet Shoemaker–Levy 9 hit Jupiter in 1994, it was going approx 134,000mph.

    It hit as a series of fragments ranging up to 1.2 miles in diameter. That combo was a lot of potential energy mojo to release when it hits.

    The largest fragment to impact created a giant dark spot over 7,500 miles across (almost one Earth diameter)

    It was estimated to have released an energy equivalent to 6,000,000 megatons of TNT or 600 times the world’s total nuclear arsenal.

    There were 21 such impacts over six days.

    The point here is that hypersonic missile punch way above their weight class because of the increased mass produced by their incredible speed and if multiple missiles were targeted to hit the same spot, carefully separated with precise timing on the same spot, they can penetrate even deeper than one missile.

    Timed just right they are like a jackhammer.

    And hypersonics can descend vertically from near space and go straight down over a target in full rocket acceleration mode.

    These missiles are very accurate so dropping a second one on top on the first just a second or so after the ejection debris from the first clears out enables a second detonation at depth to go even further, and so forth….

    You can go very deep with this technique.

    An M-16 round is about the size of a pea bean. It leaves the muzzle at approx 2000mph

    It weight on average about 3 grams depending on the load.

    A human head weights about 9000 grams

    If a .223 bullet hits a human head that weights 3000x more than it, the head explodes.

    That’s what will happen when a hypersonic missile hits an aircraft carrier.

    #131901
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Does everyone here realize their their net positive monetary position is, by definition, one or more other person’s INEXTINGUISHABLE DEBT?
    In effect, you’ve been duped into the Debt-Money Slave Master Role.
    This is 100% true, factual, and trivial to prove.
    Henry Ford understood this…
    “The one aim of the (Allodial Money Power) financiers is world control through inextinguishable debt.”
    ~Henry Ford
    You act as a stand in for the enslavement of others to inextinguishable debt, and then, on the back end, the Money Power finds a way to siphon off your money from you.
    And then they apportion the $50 trillion in governmental debt at the depth of the collapse.
    Lucifer would not have it any other way!

    The irony, beyond the masses literally ingesting rusty metallic iron filings by the daily tonnage, is that humanity literally worships the very militarized debt-based money system that will eventually kill them off. They lust after the mechanism that is being used to enslave and murder them.

    There is no safety in sin Agape.
    This is why Agape God allows this mess.
    We have to learn that sin Agape blinds us from even the basics of our own survival instinct.
    We should all repent towards Agape.
    And anyone who does will prioritize exposing the WICKED EVIL that is the debt-based money system, the zero-sum, artificial generator of mass murdering poverty.
    Only sin Agape can ignore that Ugly Truth.

    “It is sadly true that only the “wealthy” can afford absolute honesty. Loss of freedom begins in earnest when people are “forced” to tell lies to fit within a “society”…necessary to maintain the “beautiful lie”. Only the truly powerful tell the truth, because, due to their position, there can be no repercussions.”
    ~Rothschild
    I’m that court jester dumb enough to tell the truth without be “wealthy,” and by “wealthy” he meant an Allodial.
    Do you know why I stress “Allodial”? Is anyone interested in why? It is absolutely critical to properly understanding the source of worldwide control.

    #131902
    TheTrivium4TW
    Participant

    Tesla Weapons are where the real money is.
    Donald Trump’s uncle made sure to hand off all of Tesla’s information to the Allodials while making sure the general public was duped about its real value.
    You did know that, right?

    “There is a wealth of information available on Tesla’s techniques. Ironically, few take the time to read them.
    Very, very few.
    Almost none. And Tesla’s patents lay out a great starting point. But like your great aunt leaving a key ingredient out of her prize cake recipe, some work must be done.
    Tesla was the real genius…not Einstein, not Edison.
    Tesla had the “keys to the kingdom” within his reach! It was thus necessary to change the lock.”
    ~Rothschild

    Rothschild just explained how all the physicists, the “smartest” people around, since Tesla did less for humanity than one man, Tesla, did.
    They all mindlessly began solving the wrong problem, and haven’t stopped since.
    Of course, only work on the wrong problem is paid well. lol
    Mammon not only kicked Agape God’s behind on Earth, it also kicked the teeth out of the truth and integrity, too!
    Let the rationalizations begin!

    #131903
    jb-hb
    Participant

    You may as well throw something into Treasury Direct. It’s easy and convenient, at least, and it probably won’t do much harm. If nothing else, due to the limit.

    GRZZX or BEARX?

    Puts on corporate bonds? (via etfs or whatnot) Puts on everything? Puts on Disney?

    There’s a banking service that spreads your account over a network of banks, keeping your level at $250k or less in each one. Manage it all through one acct. If you happen to be mr moneybags, that seems like a pretty slick solution. (Came across it a couple years ago, don’t remember the name)

    All the usual doomer stuff, obviously. Work on skills, health, friendships, good location, garden & seeds, stocked consumables, durables, etc. Read the usual books like FerFal’s Surviving Economic Collapse, Five Stages of Collapse, etc. Stock a library with gardening, water gathering/retention, root cellaring, seed harvest and storage, etc etc etc. Determine your specific conscious values because you will need it more than anything either for survival or for not surviving. All the things.

    #131904
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    Regarding Kubrick, “2001: A Space Odyssey” was released in April 1968. He didn’t begin shooting “A Clockwork Orange” until late in the year of 1969, which would have given him a free year plus that would have bracketed the first moon landing in July 1969. So far, so good.

    However, there were five more crewed landings on the moon from November 1969 to December 1972. In particular there were landings in February and July of 1971; “A Clockwork Orange” was shot in 1970 to 1971, culminating in release December 1971. I think it is unlikely in the extreme that he could have been splitting time between ACO and moon landing fakery in that same year of 1971. Could he have shot all six in that free year prior to 1969? Maybe. When you look at the later moon landings they involved ever greater complexity (Moon rover, anyone?) and ever longer “extra vehicular activity;” again, it’s hard to believe that could have all been scripted so far in advance.

    Maybe they faked the first one or two, and that gave NASA the time and money necessary to do ones that were real? It always did bother me that NASA “lost” the telemetry tapes from the Apollo missions.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Kubrick

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing

    #131905
    WES
    Participant

    Riddle me the best
    Riddle me you jest
    Riddle me an egg nest
    Riddle me this mess
    Riddle me less
    Riddle me to death

    Riddle me some grain
    Riddle me a train
    Riddle me some rain
    Riddle me a drain
    Riddle me a brain
    Riddle me in vain

    #131906
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    TT4TW: “Treasury Direct (TD)? I heard they have $10k limits now. Is that only on certain products, or is that the max you can put into TD per year now?”

    No limit on TreasuryDirect investments, except for one specific type of savings bonds:
    “The annual purchase limit for Series I savings bonds in TreasuryDirect is $10,000.”

    TreasuryDirect rates for T-bills are currently around 4.2% (annualized) for 4-week terms, higher rates for longer terms.

    https://www.treasurydirect.gov/auctions/announcements-data-results/

    A TreasuryDirect account requires having at least one bank account or credit union account somewhere, to enable funds to transfer in or out of the TD account. “Reinvestments” can be set to keep rolling over (after a 4-week maturity, for example) and stay in the TD account until no more reinvestments are specified.

    #131907
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant

    ICUMI, … Jen Psaki’s debut on MSNBC:

    F.S.

    #131908
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #131909
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Just for clarification, immediately following the impact of a DU dart, the uranium heats to combustion temperature and vaporises, forming uranium oxides which heat the air and get carried up and out by the [thermal] convection effect, as in a nuclear explosion.

    Once the heat is lost, the uranium oxides fall to the ground or come down with rain.

    Being insoluble these oxides remain near the ground surface and can contaminate anyone or anything that disturbs them.

    American servicemen (not sure whether any women were involved) in close proximity to the DU zone in Iraq got it on their footwear, clothing etc., and being kept in the dark by the MIC, breathed in DU oxide dust which soon led to illness and death.

    Iraqis in DU zones suffered radiation poisoning, and women produced malformed babies.

    Therefore, for Airstrip One to be sending DU darts to be used against Eurasia demonstrates how utterly evil Big Brother is.

    But we already knew that.

    #131910
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Something we should be ‘concerned about’, as the Empire of Lies morphs into an Empire of Chaos. Because once you have FUBARed the natural world, it takes centuries or millennia for nature to un-FUBAR.

    There is an abundance of microplastics in marine sponges in Wellington harbour, new research has found. It’s raising concern other sea life will have the same in their bodies with microplastics entering the food chain

    https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/something-we-should-be-concerned-about-worrying-microplastics-discovery-in-wellington-harbour/ar-AA1901m2?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=4e295fc1db834cd292a9e4da532c86b1&ei=11

    #131911
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant
    #131912
    John Day
    Participant

    TT4TW wrote a lot, and I read it, I get that picture.
    Here’s what he wrote that is short, sweet and good, like being “Lieutenant Columbo”.

    “Pretend inferiority; promote their arrogance.”
    ~Sun Tzu Art of War

    #131913
    John Day
    Participant

    @AFKTT: The Uranium projectiles EXPLODE inside the tank and suck up all the oxygen, quite violently.
    That is what makes them so much “better” than tungsten. It is like tossing a white phosporus grenade into the tank or APC.

    #131914
    wdt
    Participant

    Oh god someone else riding their hobby horse,,please desist
    I wonder if you can explain how the laser reflectors got to the moon,
    to measure elapsed time reflection and hence distance.
    Quickly put into use

    #131915
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Dr D Rich said

    However, we’re delimited by this blog and many others from identifying the (((parasite))) (((controllers)) as We, America=White Deplorables referenced above go the way of the American Indians who btw warned us about this very future.

    White supremacy: why would whites start a campaign to remove their own power, a campaign that would have to come from powerful whites? The dumb idiots they allow into university these days will definitely go along with this, students are mostly idiots, especially the ones who still believe in the persistently-failed religion of Marxism, they are the powerless whites. So why would the powerful whites do this? Making themselves poorer and less powerful in order to remedy the sins of their ancestors? The powerful whites are NOT doing this and anyone who thinks they are is sadly delusioned.

    The “white supremacy” woke culture is being driven by a powerful minority that is trying to take power and money from the white people. Basically parasites. I wonder which tribe that could be.

    #131916
    aspnaz
    Participant

    wdt said

    Oh god someone else riding their hobby horse,,please desist

    First it was Jews and now it is moon landings … “please desist” asking for (self) censorship then driving the conversation deeper into the truth theory. The mirrors question has always been a good one, although getting a bit old now. There have been many rebutals, the one I favour is that it was delivered by earlier missions. However, I am firmy on the fence on this truth theory, the reason being that all the information surrounding it has been delivered by government and the one truth we know for sure is that we cannot trust government.

    #131917
    zerosum
    Participant

    Watch out for the misplaced decimal point.

    #131918
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    Unless we were physically there in the original first hand experience or event under discussion then all that any of us know about the world around us is stuff that we have received from other people, who were themselves probably just passing it along from wherever they heard it. To describe our data sources as second hand rumor and gossip is being overly generous, and that is being over generous too.

    This lack of trustworthy information has become such a critical issue that we are virtually compelled sifting through mountains of data from uncountable sources just to get a rough idea of what is probably going on around us at the moment. And then the next moment something happens that pulls the rug out and everything is all different again. Under those circumstances it’s pretty silly to censor one another or ourselves. Let people follow their muse and express themselves. Who knows, one of us might accidentally stumble across something useful. Maybe it was something left on the moon by Stan Kubrik or Tom Cruise to ingratiate the aliens who are grooming Klaus Schwab for the Ant-Christ . . . . the point is : we don’t fucking know!

    So be nice, it sure beats eating crow in front of everybody when the other fool somehow turns out to be right.

    #131919
    WES
    Participant

    I would gladly eat crow but do you know how hard it is to get within gun shot range of a crow? Them dam crows know a gun when they see one, and always fly to the next tree just out of range of your gun!

    #131920
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    Timeline of escalation over the past year or so. (Not what the title indicates)

    #131940
    Polemos
    Participant

    I’m thankful for Rob Ager, of collativelearning.com, whose YouTube video on the “meaning of the monolith” in 2001 clued me in to what the movie is doing, as well as showing (yet another way) how to apply one’s skills for observing differently towards thinking new things. I find a lot of his film analyses to be insightful and helpful for getting through one’s tendency towards remaining on the surface of the ocean of meaning. I purchased a number of them that are not available for free on the ‘Tube.

    (Incidentally, that it’s a tube shows it still functions like that other tube, the one the Lore warns about, as one medium disparages another…)

    Anyway, Ager’s thesis is that Kubrick is not telling a straightforward “sci fi” movie about space. The disorienting discontinuities and logical inconsistencies regarding perspectives, orientation, and progression aren’t production errors Kubrick forgets/neglects but rather intentional components in a narrative meant to educate an audience willing to participate in figuring out how the deeper narratives arise through their insistence on exploring (narratival habits that occur in all Kubrick movies, such as The Shining or FMJ).

    For instance, when you see the satellites drifting in space as “The Blue Danube” plays, Ager points out that the satellites are obviously fake, as in “not even meant to be portraying an illusion of satellites on a movie screen.” Kubrick, who spent such incredible amounts of time and effort on the effects and deployment of light and illumination, would so casually and carelessly mistake the direction and orientation of his shadows? That’s weird, were it not for how these small and fine details start to come together in the bigger picture of the movie.

    Chase scene: the movie shows that there is no “space” in the movie, there is a lot of deception and lying, there are no aliens mentioned in the movie but there is intelligence “outside” the expectations of those within the movie, and the subliminal occurrence of the monolith finally orienting towards the audience initiates the participant towards the same awareness Bowman undergoes (as when he sees the film crew [which we see reflected in his helmet, which then comes off] and comes to understand he is a character in a movie played by an actor).

    Ager’s insight helped me to understand why metalepsis occurs in interesting places, with the most important being in one’s own life, your own subjectivity. Meeting the author who writes you is either a horror or a joy, but it fundamentally changes what you take to be the contours and the limits of the world. The real light bringers are the ones who show you that “as above, so below” in a sense “works both ways”, such that the real communion of the divine and the mundane requires for both to step out of the frame altogether, where there are no stories-in-the-telling, just an endless library full of yet unopened books, unrolled scrolls, unspun discs, spooled reels and tapes, static solid state drives, dormant crystals, unsprung nucleic acids, and some browsing children with loving parents.

    So, did they go to the moon? It depends on what narrative you’re in and how hard you’re willing to find the answer. All the important things in life are subject to Heisenberg principles, and if you’re not looking into it with sufficient probity, it’s best to take it as a superposition of all possibles. But if you do look and you got a pretty resolved way of getting there, you might just change your mind, the thing you’re actually studying.

    #131949
    zerosum
    Participant

    Look UP, Way UP,
    See the lights dancing Listen for the crackle

    Index

    #131953
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Polemos said

    So, did they go to the moon? It depends on what narrative you’re in and how hard you’re willing to find the answer. All the important things in life are subject to Heisenberg principles, and if you’re not looking into it with sufficient probity, it’s best to take it as a superposition of all possibles. But if you do look and you got a pretty resolved way of getting there, you might just change your mind, the thing you’re actually studying.

    Why would you fritter away your limited mental resources on such a pointless question? Who cares whether they went to the moon, who cares whether Kubrick did the movies, why is that so important when there appear to me to be way more important things on which to spend your limited resources, time and mental faculties being the most important. Better to go walk the dog than worry about this shite.

    #131954
    aspnaz
    Participant

    D Benton Smith said

    Unless we were physically there in the original first hand experience or event under discussion then all that any of us know about the world around us is stuff that we have received from other people, who were themselves probably just passing it along from wherever they heard it. To describe our data sources as second hand rumor and gossip is being overly generous, and that is being over generous too.

    Exactly. So, get down to fundementals: how do you know Covid exists? Because the TV told me so is not an acceptable answer. See, the majority of what passes through your mind every day is mostly made up bullshit. You have to consider your knowledge of everything to be suspect, at the end of the day you are an individual, you have to decide what you are going to believe or not believe. Society is an immense help in your life, but at the end of the day, you are an individual and what you make of that is up to you.

    #131973
    Polemos
    Participant

    “Why would you fritter away your limited mental resources on such a pointless question? Who cares whether they went to the moon, who cares whether Kubrick did the movies, why is that so important when there appear to me to be way more important things on which to spend your limited resources, time and mental faculties being the most important. Better to go walk the dog than worry about this shite.” —aspnaz

    What do mirrors look like?

    You know, did you read the paragraph you quoted? I’m not being snarky. I’m just curious why you’d join the ranks of folks who read so carelessly. You’re better than that, dude. Besides, I don’t like dogs. On top of that, how do you get off telling me what’s shite and what’s not, but then tell D Benton Smith in the very next comment that he is an individual and what he makes of that is up to him. If that’s true, then isn’t how I spend my time up to me, and not up to your assessment of what’s valuable and what’s not? —especially if the majority of what’s passing through your mind every day is also mostly made up of bullshit and considered to be suspect, or are you immune to what afflicts D Benton Smith? Why should I care what you think if you’re right at all?

    Unless, of course, you matter to me and are important to me, as a person, as a friend, as a fellow traveler in a fascinating journey of discovery. Do you want to be that for me?

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