Nov 052023
 


Hieronymus Bosch St. Jerome in Prayer 1482

 

The US and Hezbollah Want The Same Thing From Israel-Hamas War (Scott Ritter)
Iraqis Warn Of Western Plan To Move Gazans To Anbar Desert (Cradle)
Ireland’s Most Popular Party Wants Israeli Ambassador Expelled (RT)
Gaza Conflict ‘Taking Away Focus’ From Ukraine – Zelensky (AFP)
US Plans Reshuffle of Ukrainian Elites Due to Corruption – Putin (Sp.)
West Nudges Ukraine Towards Peace Deal With Russia (Sp.)
We Won’t Talk To Russia – Zelensky (RT)
NATO’s Backfired Ukraine Strategy Built on Ideology, Bribery & Blackmail (Sp.)
Ukraine Aid Drying Up – White House (RT)
Long Read (Kim Dotcom)
There Is Only One Putin – Kremlin (RT)
Tony Bobulinski Issues A Challenge To The Biden Family (DM)
Can Jack Smith Convict Trump For Being Lured By Bad Lawyers’ Advice? (Turley)
Tucker Carlson Visits Assange In Prison (RT)

 

 

 

 

 

 

WCNSF

 

 

Gideon Levy

 

 

 

 

Obama

 

 

Russell

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Long excerpt for a complex issue.

The US and Hezbollah Want The Same Thing From Israel-Hamas War (Scott Ritter)

[..] both the US and Hezbollah were, and are, implementing a model of conflict management known as the ‘escalation ladder’. And while this reality might prove frustrating for those on either side of this conflict who seek a decisive, one-sided victory, it is the only responsible path that can be taken to avoid turning a local conflict into a regional war that could have global ramifications. The escalation ladder process focuses on how the parties involved escalate and de-escalate against competitors, measuring these actions against the different levels of escalation, which equate to the ‘steps’ on the ‘ladder’ used to visualize the model. By assessing the possible upward or downward trajectory of escalation at each level, based upon the actions of each party and their outcomes, the model helps participants to predict plausible outcomes and, as such, plot future scenarios.

The most popular expression of the escalation ladder is what is known as ‘linear escalation’, where a sequential line of actions is plotted from lowest to highest, and the relationship between two competing powers assessed accordingly. Linear escalation as a model works if there are only two participants to the crisis in question. The problem with the ongoing Gaza conflict is that there are many parties to the conflict, all of which have differing goals and objectives. As such, the escalation model that is most applicable to this scenario is what is known as horizontal escalation, where within a given escalation vector, differing participants can be segregated based upon their respective goals and objectives, allowing a sub-set of comparative escalatory calculations to take place, which in turn can be subjected to factors that influence their specific escalation, de-escalation, and maintenance issues separate from other parallel escalation management trajectories.

By way of example, one can speak of a ‘horizontal escalation’ model, where a US/Israeli track is paired off against a Hamas/Hezbollah track. However, the US/Israeli track is also paired off against itself, since the US and Israel are at odds over ceasefire options, the provision of humanitarian air, and specific military tactics. The same applies to Hamas/Hezbollah, where the Palestinian-specific goals of Hamas may clash with the regional aspirations of Hezbollah. Moreover, the specific actions of the US and Israel, when competing, can impact the Hamas and Hezbollah escalation calculations differently, causing these two tracks to lose their equilibrium by having one party escalate when the other may be seeking either maintenance and/or de-escalation. The horizontal escalation model becomes even more complex when other tracks, such as the United Nations, the international community, Iran, Yemen, and the Iraqi and Syrian Shia militias become involved.

When seen in this light, the horizontal escalation model becomes horribly complicated, requiring all parties to be cognizant about the competing interests of everyone involved, and develop a sound understanding of the intricacies associated with every facet of the cause-effect relationships involved. When deciphering the presentations given by both Blinken and Nasrallah, the casual observer might be compelled to be highly critical of the less-than decisive content provided. But a careful parsing of the language used by both men shows that each, in his own way, is cognizant of the complexity of the issues at play, and the absolute need to manage the pressures generated by the emotions of all parties involved so that a crisis that could easily expand into a regional war remains localized.

However, one cannot escape the reality that, at the end of the day, there cannot be a solution that is satisfactory to all parties. Israel seeks the destruction of Hamas as a military and political entity. Hamas seeks a Palestinian homeland built in its image. These two visions of victory are mutually incompatible. Both parties will seek to manipulate the escalation ladder in a way that best promotes their respective desired outcome. The key to the other parties is how to prevent this inherent incompatibility from spinning out of control, and to manage defeat as well as victory. It is this aspect of the escalation management process where Hamas has the advantage. As Nasrallah repeatedly noted in his presentation, the most important aspect of the anti-Israeli resistance is its ability to persevere.

Israel finds itself in an increasingly untenable situation, where the political and military methodologies undertaken are increasingly rejected by its supporters. The friction between the US and Israeli positions was evident in Blinken’s address. This friction will only increase if the conflict between Israel and Hamas is maintained on its current trajectory. The only chance Israel has to break this paradigm is if the conflict escalates, forcing the US to reevaluate its conflict resolution model with larger geopolitical concerns, such as a war with Iran. Blinken has made it clear that the Biden administration is not seeking such an outcome. Neither is Hassan Nasrallah. It is in this light that one must examine the totality of Nasrallah’s speech, and the complexity of his argument. There is not a single facet of the Israeli-Hamas conflict he left unexamined. Moreover, he not only discussed each of these matters in isolation, but also in respect to how they relate overall. Nasrallah’s speech was the embodiment of how to manage a complex horizontal escalation model and achieve a desired outcome.

Let there be no doubt – Hamas is on the trajectory toward victory, though not the kind of victory a casual observer might imagine as its end goal. When the definitive history of the Hamas-Israeli conflict is finally written, rest assured that the speech given by Hassan Nasrallah will be recorded as one of the critical moments in shaping the conflict so that it avoided exploding into a wider war, and instead allowing the various parties to focus on the more limited, although admittedly complex, issues relating to the core matters as defined by Hamas – a prisoner exchange, freedom of religion at the Al Aqsa Mosque, and Palestinian statehood. These limited objectives, and not the destruction of Israel, are the likely outcomes of this conflict. And for that we can all thank Hassan Nasrallah, a man who knows how to effectively manage the complexities of the horizontal escalation model.

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A new dimension.

Iraqis Warn Of Western Plan To Move Gazans To Anbar Desert (Cradle)

The settlement of Palestinians in the Anbar desert, western Iraq, has become a topic of renewed discussion among Iraqis, thanks to the US-championed “Deal of the Century.” As far back as February 2020, Iraqi MP al-Baldawi, the representative of the al-Fatah coalition in Iraq’s parliament, was alleging: “The US is plotting to keep out Hashd al-Shaabi (Popular Mobilization Units, or PMU) from the western provinces of Iraq, specially al-Anbar province, in a move to provide a proper ground for sheltering the Palestinians inside Iraq.” But now, the renewed interest in the topic coincides with the recent, unpublicized visit of the British ambassador to Iraq to Anbar Governorate. Since the unveiling of the Trump era peace plan in 2019, reports have surfaced suggesting that the continued US presence in western Iraq has broader intentions beyond establishing military bases.

It is speculated that the goal is to create an “alternative homeland” for Palestinian refugees in the Anbar desert. This notion might have remained confined to the realm of “conspiracy theories” if it weren’t for suggestions made by Israeli leaders following the 7 October Al-Aqsa Flood resistance operation, and their unprecedented genocidal aggression against the Gaza Strip. Israeli media leaked a document issued by the Israeli Ministry of Intelligence, proposing the displacement of 2.4 million Palestinians from Gaza to the Sinai Peninsula in Egypt and other regions, a proposal strongly rejected by both Cairo and Amman. The leaked plan has renewed serious Iraqi interest in the potential project to displace Palestinians to Anbar. Concerns of another Nakba have been echoed in statements from Iraqi political and religious leaders, including leading figures like Muqtada al-Sadr and Qais al-Khazali, as well as representatives of the Iraqi parliament – particularly those hailing from Anbar Governorate.

The leader of the National Resolution Alliance, Jamal al-Karbouli, condemned “the suspicious projects that attempt to displace the Palestinians out of Palestine,” and warned “everyone who dares to go too far with the people of Anbar and donate its land to please his masters.. Karbouli’s statements prompted Parliament Speaker Muhammad al-Halbousi, the representative of Anbar in the council, to emphatically reject any attempt to implement the Deal of the Century in Iraq. But observers like political analyst Mohsen al-Amiri believe that Karbouli’s claims forced Halbousi into issuing a denial: “It seems as if Anbar’s representative in parliament Al-Halbousi, who has close relations with foreign countries, especially the United Arab Emirates (the UAE has led the Arab normalization process with Israel), was trying to distance himself from these accusations.”

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Ireland’s next PM?!

Ireland’s Most Popular Party Wants Israeli Ambassador Expelled (RT)

Israeli ambassador Dana Erlich “should no longer enjoy diplomatic status in Ireland,” Sinn Fein party leader Mary Lou McDonald said on Friday. McDonald’s party, which has deep historical ties to the Palestinian cause, has repeatedly condemned Israel’s bombardment of Gaza. “[The Israel Defence Forces] are engaged in a ferocious military offensive against a civilian population; breaking international law by targeting civilians, destroying civilian infrastructure, forcing mass population displacement and cutting off vital supplies of water, food, medicines and fuel,” McDonald told reporters. Erlich’s presence in Ireland has become “untenable,” McDonald continued, adding that the ambassador should “no longer enjoy diplomatic status in Ireland while Israel refuses the imperative for ceasefires and as the suffering and death toll grow.”

Earlier on Friday, McDonald discussed the conflict with diplomats from Algeria, Egypt, Iraq, Kuwait, Morocco, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. Israel’s embassy in Dublin criticized the Sinn Fein leader for not inviting Erlich to the meeting, accusing her of “only [seeking] to isolate Israel, rather than offer a forum for constructive engagement.” “To exclude Israel from such a forum is quite telling of Sinn Fein’s position on the conflict,” the embassy said in a statement. Sinn Fein is Ireland’s most popular political party, with a 13-point lead on its closest rival, the centrist Fine Gael. Sinn Fein is excluded from power, however, by a coalition agreement between Fine Gael and historical rivals Fianna Fail, as well as the Green Party.

As the former political wing of the Irish Republican Army (IRA), Sinn Fein’s support for the Palestinian cause is long-standing. The party’s supporters, particularly in Northern Ireland, view their own struggle against British colonialism as analogous to the Palestinian struggle against Israeli occupation. While the IRA has laid down its arms, Sinn Fein has remained in contact with Hamas; former party leader Gerry Adams met with Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh in Gaza in 2009, while McDonald hosted an online conference with the militant group’s foreign relations head, Dr Basem Naim, in 2020. Sinn Fein “will never rule out meeting or talking to anybody, because that doesn’t serve any purpose” in securing peace in the Middle East, the party’s foreign affairs spokesman, Matt Carthy, said last month.

Irish Prime Minister Leo Varadkar has adopted a more neutral stance on the Israel-Palestine conflict, declaring on Friday that Israel “has a right to defend itself [and] has the right to go after Hamas, so they can not do this again.” Varadkar also condemned Israel’s response to Hamas’ October 7 attack, stating that it “isn’t just self-defense, it resembles something more approaching revenge.” Ireland voted last month for a UN resolution demanding an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, and opposed a now-scrapped EU plan to suspend aid payments to the enclave. However, Varadkar told reporters on Friday that he is “not sure [the Israelis] listen very closely to what we have to say, quite frankly.”

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“Zelensky said the war between Israel and Hamas had also drawn attention away from Ukraine, and said that this was “Russia’s goal”.

Excuse me, how does this work?

Gaza Conflict ‘Taking Away Focus’ From Ukraine – Zelensky (AFP)

The sprawling frontline between the two warring sides has barely moved in almost a year, with one senior Ukrainian official warning this week that the conflict was deadlocked. “Time has passed, people are tired… But this is not a stalemate,” Zelensky told a press conference in Kyiv with EU Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen. The Ukrainian leader also rejected the idea Western countries were putting pressure on Kyiv to enter negotiations with Russia, amid reports US and EU officials had discussed what such talks would entail. “No one among our partners is pressuring us to sit down with Russia, talk to it, and give it something,” he said. With the war now in its 20th month and Ukraine struggling to gain ground in its counteroffensive, Zelensky has routinely met Western leaders in a bid to stave off fatigue with the conflict.

Zelensky said the war between Israel and Hamas had also drawn attention away from Ukraine, and said that this was “Russia’s goal”. “Of course, it’s clear that the war in the Middle East, this conflict, is taking away the focus,” Zelensky said. “We have already been in very difficult situations when there was almost no focus on Ukraine,” he said, but added: “I am absolutely sure we will overcome this challenge.” Ukraine’s backers, including the United States, have maintained they are ready to support Kyiv with military and financial support for as long as it takes to defeat Russia. Zelensky’s comments came as EU Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen visited Kyiv to discuss Ukraine’s progress toward joining the 27-member bloc.

Kyiv received EU candidacy status several months after Russia invaded last year, but analysts have warned it faces a long and difficult path to membership. “You have reached many milestones,” von der Leyen told Zelensky. “Reforming your justice system. Curbing the oligarchs grip. Tackling money laundering and much more,” she said. “We should never forget you are fighting an existential war, and at the same time you’re deeply reforming your country,” she added. She said she was “confident” Ukraine would progress with the accession process when these reforms were implemented. The EU Commission has proposed an additional 50 billion euros ($54 billion) in funding for Ukraine until 2027, von der Leyen said.

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“..every political move in Ukraine has a kind of fixed price..”

US Plans Reshuffle of Ukrainian Elites Due to Corruption – Putin (Sp.)

Russian President Vladimir Putin stressed that corruption in Ukraine is almost legalized and the West will not be able to fight it. He added that this is why he was not surprised by reports about Ukrainian weapons in the Middle East. “There [in Ukraine] this corruption, it is actually legalized. Why are Americans trying to fight this corruption and nothing is working? I think it will not work,” Putin said at a meeting with the new members of the Civic Chamber of Russia. Putin recalled that Ukrainian politicians and high-ranking government officials told him that every issue can be solved for a price, and that his “jaw dropped” when he heard this, meaning that he was shocked by the blatant corruption.

He stressed that every political move in Ukraine has a kind of fixed price. Putin added that the US is plotting a change of political and economic elites in Ukraine, but he believes that this will not solve the problem and that “everything will remain the same.” He emphasized that this should not be the case for Russia and instead, Russia must implement its own legal standards in the new regions. He referenced the progress made in ushering in the legal framework in Crimea and stated, “It is not an easy task, but we are going to do it, and we are already doing it.” Putin concluded.

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“..There’s a growing sense that it’s too late, and it’s time to do a deal..”

West Nudges Ukraine Towards Peace Deal With Russia (Sp.)

As Kiev flounders with its counteroffensive, political support for propping up the Volodymyr Zelensky regime gradually wanes in some US political circles; meanwhile, Israel’s war on Hamas takes center stage, prompting speculation as to how swiftly Ukraine fatigue will gather momentum, and what it may spill out into. Quiet conversations are already reportedly taking place between US and European officials on the one hand, and the Ukrainian government on the other, about possible peace negotiations with Russia. The discussions have touched upon concessions Ukraine might need to agree to if any deal is to be possible, according to current and former senior Washington officials cited in a US report.

A meeting of representatives from more than 50 nations, including NATO members supporting the Kiev regime, known as the Ukraine Defense Contact Group, held in October, purportedly served as a venue for some of these “delicate” talks, as per the report. “…There’s a growing sense that it’s too late, and it’s time to do a deal,” one former senior Washington official was quoted as saying. As to why these talks have been gathering momentum, the outlet’s sources acknowledged that they have been triggered by both, military dynamics on the battlefield, where Ukraine faces a botched counteroffensive, and the political situation in the US and Europe. First of all, there is growing acknowledgement that no amount of military assistance to Ukraine has helped its efforts to break through Russia’s defense lines.

Even a top Ukrainian general, Valery Zaluzhny, admitted that despite “NATO’s textbooks” and “calculations,” Kiev needed to take a massive technological leap to break the current “stalemate” in its counteroffensive against Russian troops. “There will most likely be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” he underscored in an interview with the UK’s Economist magazine. Moscow, however, understandably took issue with the word “stalemate,” denying there was a battlefield impasse, and vouching for the fact that Russia consistently continues to conduct the special military ops to achieve its set objectives.

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Well, someone will..

We Won’t Talk To Russia – Zelensky (RT)

Ukraine is not willing to hold any talks with Russia, President Vladimir Zelensky said on Saturday during a joint press conference with EU Commission President Ursula von der Leyen. He also denied recent media reports that Kiev’s Western backers are pushing it to engage in negotiations. “Now, none of the EU, US leaders, our partners are putting pressure on us in terms of sitting down [at the negotiating table] with Russia, talking to it or surrendering something to it,” he told journalists. “This is not going to happen,” he added. Zelensky then said he “does not know” who even publishes such reports. He did admit, however, that he had “got an impression”that the Ukrainian media and Ukrainians themselves are speculating about the idea of potential talks with Russia and about Western nations allegedly pushing Kiev towards such a decision.

The president went on to say that he was “surprised” by such sentiments. Earlier on Saturday, NBC reported that Western officials were holding behind-the-scenes talks with Kiev about the possibility of negotiating with Russia and were even exploring potential concessions Ukraine might agree to in order to end the conflict. The report also said that the Western nations were concerned about a potential “stalemate” in the conflict and Ukraine “running out of forces” in the future. Russia has repeatedly signaled its readiness to engage in negotiations with Kiev but has insisted that such talks should take Moscow’s security interests and the “reality on the ground” into account. In autumn 2022, four former Ukrainian territories, including the two Donbass republics, officially joined Russia following a series of referendums.

Kiev never accepted their results, branding the votes a “sham” and seeking to restore its control over the four territories, as well as Crimea, which joined Russia in 2014 following another referendum. In October 2022, Zelensky also signed a decree banning Ukraine from holding any talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin. This past September, Putin said that if Kiev is willing to end the conflict it should demonstrate its intentions publicly, including by revoking the 2022 decree. “If their wish to achieve something through negotiations is genuine, let them do that,” he said at that time. “Let the Ukrainians themselves say it… announce it publicly,” the Russian president added.

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“Everyone is ready for that except for Zelenksy, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Nuland, Senator Graham, and Congressman Schiff..”

NATO’s Backfired Ukraine Strategy Built on Ideology, Bribery & Blackmail (Sp.)

Moscow was swift to shoot down Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Valery Zaluzhny’s claims earlier in the week of a battlefield impasse as being far from the truth, emphasizing that Russia fully intends to reach all the objectives of its special military operation. The US-led Western master plan implemented in Ukraine backfired because it was “not fact-based”, with Washington dipping into its playbook of utilizing both “bribery” and “blackmail”, Karen Kwiatkowski, a former analyst for the US Department of Defense, told Sputnik. NATO’s “strategy” was “ideology and domestic interest-based – in some cases based on financial bribery and energy blackmail by the US. It was a strategy of finance and military aid/contracts rather than an actual strategy”, pointed out Kwiatkowski.

Earlier, the Ukrainian army’s Commander-in-Chief General Valery Zaluzhny admitted that Kiev needed to take a massive technological leap to break the current “stalemate” in its counteroffensive against Russian troops. “There will, most likely, be no deep and beautiful breakthrough,” he highlighted in an interview with the UK’s magazine ‘The Economist’. “In a world with well-informed, logical and humanitarian leadership in Kiev and Washington, we would indeed consider Valery Zaluzhny’s evaluation as a precursor to immediate negotiations with Russia. Everyone is ready for that except for Zelenksy, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Nuland, Senator Graham, and Congressman Schiff,” said the pundit. Espressing himself in both an article and then an interview, Zaluzhny conceded that “NATO’s textbooks” and “the math” that Kiev used in planning its much-heralded counteroffensive had failed to stop Russian forces from tackling Ukrainian troops.

Zaluzhny speculated that the aforementioned NATO textbooks and the calculations had suggested that “four months should have been enough time for us [the Ukrainian army] to have reached Crimea, to have fought in Crimea, to return from Crimea and to have gone back in and out again.” He was referring to the peninsula which chose to split off from Ukraine after the February 2014 Euromaidan coup, voting overwhelmingly in a referendum in March 2014 to rejoin Russia. Ukraine boasted of plans to use its summer counteroffensive to seize Crimea. Zaluzhny also added that he was concerned about the fact that “sooner or later [Kiev] will realize that we simply don’t have enough people to fight”. Accordingly, he struck up the familiar tune of demanding more weapons from the West – one that Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky appears to have perfected. Thus, warning that there were “heavier battles to come,” the Ukrainian top general solicited assistance for Ukraine’s missile and air defense, and offered “calculations” as to “how many tanks, artillery we need and so on and so on”.

In effect, however, no amount of sophisticated weaponry worth however many billions of dollars would be sufficient to help Kiev in its counteroffensive. The US-spearheaded Western strategy had been to use Ukraine as a pawn in its proxy war to attempt to “isolate Russia economically, to weaken Russia’s military capability, and to strengthen Ukraine as a potential EU and even NATO member,” Kwiatkowski emphasized. However, “in each of these publicly stated objectives, if there was a strategy to do these things, it backfired and failed in all cases,” added the retired Lieutenant Colonel. Such “across the board failures” can only mean that “either the strategy was so bad it should have never made it off the table, or the aim had been to fail be destroyed, just not publicly stated,” Kwiatkowski stressed.

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The White House can sneak out, and blame Mike Johnson. Perfect for them.

Ukraine Aid Drying Up – White House (RT)

The White House is running out of funds to finance arms deliveries to Ukraine, Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre has said, urging Congress to approve US President Joe Biden’s request for more aid that has been stonewalled by Republicans. Speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One on Friday, the spokeswoman said that the Pentagon had announced new arms deliveries for Ukraine. The latest package, which is worth $425 million, includes HIMARS and NASAMS missiles, artillery rounds, and other military equipment. Of this sum, $300 million was from the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI), which the Pentagon uses to contract new equipment for Kiev. The remaining $125 million came from the Presidential Drawdown Authority (PDA), which allows the Biden administration to transfer weapons from US stocks without congressional approval in case of an emergency.

Jean-Pierre noted that this package “exhaust[s] the remaining USAI funds currently available to support Ukraine.” She added that while the White House still has PDA authorities to “fulfill Ukraine’s immediate battlefield needs,” the US is starting to provide Kiev with “smaller PDA packages in order to stretch out our ability to support Ukraine for as long as possible.” With this in mind, she urged Congress to approve Biden’s supplemental aid request and send “an important message” to the world that the US continues to stand with Ukraine. Last month, the Biden administration asked US lawmakers to greenlight a security package to the tune of more than $100 billion, including $61.4 billion for Ukraine, and $14.3 billion for Israel. But some Republicans have opposed aid to Ukraine, accusing Biden of lacking a strategic vision for the conflict and insisting on more accountability.

They have also insisted that the issues of aid to Israel and Ukraine be treated separately. On Thursday, the GOP-controlled House of Representatives passed a bill on aiding Israel in its conflict with Hamas, to which Democrats voiced strong opposition, with some accusing their colleagues across the isle of politicizing the issue. Another provision listed in the legislation included defunding the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), also a non-starter for Democrats. Meanwhile, Mike Johnson, the newly installed House speaker, has yet to reveal his plans for Ukraine funding, vowing that the relevant discussions “will come in short order.” Russia has repeatedly warned the West against sending weapons to Ukraine, arguing that doing so only prolongs the conflict while making it a direct participant in the hostilities.

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X thread.

Long Read (Kim Dotcom)

The West is probing Zelenskyy on concessions to Russia. Russia and Ukraine were ready to sign a peace deal in 2022. It was blocked by Joe Biden. Since then 600k+ people died, the EU economy lost $1.5 trillion, Ukraine lost 20% of its territory and the US added 3 trillion in debt Russia is now in a much stronger position. It won’t trust any deal with Ukraine due to past treaty breaches instigated by the West. Ukraine is running out of money and forces. The US, EU and NATO have lost their proxy war and Russia can keep this conflict going for a long time thanks to failing sanctions. Low cost Russian arms production and artillery shells from partners cause the West to deplete their reserves and bleed billions more into the black hole that is Ukraine.

Russia will likely take more territory in Ukraine and turn it into a rump state without access to the Black Sea. Ukraine will not be allowed to become a NATO or EU member. Russia will ensure that the US coup in Ukraine will be reversed and that a pro-Russian Govt will be installed. Only then will the conditions improve for Ukraine. The NATO big-mouth alliance will crumble after this embarrassing defeat. The US and EU will fall into a deep recession and the BRICS alliance will grow in power and influence. The US dollar will lose reserve currency status and excessive US money printing will cause hyperinflation and devalue most US assets to junk status. The failure in Ukraine will be Biden’s and Zelenskyy’s legacy. They will be remembered as the most inept leaders of our time. Most of the EU leaders will be seen as failed US puppets who followed a dementia patient and a comedian into the sewer of history.

China is the big winner in all of this. They get the discounted Russian energy that made Europe a manufacturing powerhouse and the multipolar alliance of BRICS countries can turn decades of global wars and chaos into the most peaceful era of growth and prosperity for humanity. That’s how it should be. But the most likely outcome is that the evil empire of lies will not leave the stage quietly. The US Govt will smash the geopolitical chess board against the wall and go out in a tantrum of nuclear war that will end civilization as we know it. Only the American people could prevent this from happening but I wouldn’t bet my money on that. Most US brains have been fried by endless propaganda or dumbed down by a Neanderthal education system and TikTok 😉 The best insurance for your family is to have a Plan B in the far south of the southern hemisphere. That area will have the most survivors. May the force be with you.

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“..the Russian leader has “fantastic fitness for working” and can work nonstop for several days in a row..”

There Is Only One Putin – Kremlin (RT)

The Kremlin has dismissed speculation that it could be using body doubles of President Vladimir Putin for some events. Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov ridiculed such claims as “amusing.” “We have only one Putin!” Peskov said at the ‘Russia’ exhibition that opened in Moscow on Saturday. He said that many ridiculous, absurd, and amusing things appear in various news outlets and on social media, naming the rumors about the Russian president’s alleged body doubles as examples. The Kremlin spokesman joked that “experts” on the internet are now wondering how many doppelgangers Putin has and which ones they are seeing each day. “Today [the Russian officials and public figures led by Putin] laid flowers to the Minin and Pozharsky Monument… Was it [Putin’s] third or fourth body double? I have no idea,” the spokesman jokingly added.

On November 4, Russia celebrates Unity Day, a holiday that commemorates the end of the ‘Times of Troubles’ in the 17th century and the expulsion of the Polish-Lithuanian occupation forces from Moscow by a volunteer militia army led by Prince Dmitry Pozharsky and a merchant, Kuzma Minin. The Kremlin already laid to rest the rumors about Putin’s doppelgangers last week after the UK’s Mirror newspaper reported on the issue, citing an anonymous Russian Telegram channel called General SVR. The paper claimed that the president’s body doubles were even used for some public appearances, including foreign visits. It also cited a recent Japanese TV report claiming that Putin had doppelgangers.

Similar statements have also been made by the head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, Kirill Budanov. Peskov had previously already dismissed reports about Putin’s doppelgangers, calling them “lies” back in April. He also said that the Russian leader has “fantastic fitness for working” and can work nonstop for several days in a row. The Kremlin spokesman added that he has experienced this firsthand while working directly under Putin’s leadership.

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“..Tony Bobulinski has challenged the Biden family to testify under oath beside him before Congress..”

Tony Bobulinski Issues A Challenge To The Biden Family (DM)

Hunter Biden’s former business partner Tony Bobulinski has challenged the Biden family to testify under oath beside him before Congress, after Hunter’s lawyer accused Bobulinski of lying. Bobulinski, a Navy veteran, worked with Hunter Biden and his uncle Jim – Joe’s brother – in 2017 to invest in China. Bobulinski in 2020 produced a May 2017 email detailing a proposed equity split for a Chinese investment, with the suggestion of ’20’ for ‘H’ and ’10 held by H for the big guy?’ Bobulinski has claimed that ‘the big guy’ was Joe Biden, who was vice president until January 2017. Joe Biden has always said he was not involved in Hunter’s business dealings. Hunter’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, has written a letter to prosecutors claiming that Bobulinski has lied to the FBI. Bobulinski, in response, on Friday challenged the Bidens to provide public sworn testimony.

Tony Bobulinski was in business with Hunter Biden, and has claimed that Joe Biden was also involved in a May 2017 deal with China ‘If Hunter Biden and the Biden family are so determined to ensure that the full truth is put before the American people, Hunter, Jim, Joe and I should all appear together before Congress, publicly and under oath,’ said Bobulinski, in a statement sent to Fox News. ‘They can name the date, time and place, and I would certainly be willing to do that for the American people.’ Bobulinski said that Lowell’s letter, sent to Matthew Graves, the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia, was untrue. ‘All of the allegations contained in Mr. Lowell’s 10-page letter to U.S. Attorney Graves are patently false, and I look forward to exposing these lies and laying out the facts in a public forum in short order,’ said Bobulinski. ‘The sad thing for our country is that Hunter, Jim and Joe Biden along with Abbe Lowell know they are all false and are trying to weaponize the DOJ against me.’

Lowell, in his letter, claimed Bobulinski ‘lied about the business discussions among the partners involved’ in the joint venture. He said Bobulinski was guilty of ‘making things up’, and urged Graves to investigate him. Lowell accused Bobulinski, who insists he is not political, of being intent on attacking the Bidens. ‘The materials reveal the extraordinary lengths Mr Bobulinski and other individuals were willing to go to implicate Mr Biden or members of his family in some false and meritless allegations of wrongdoing,’ Lowell wrote. ‘Even in an era in which people peddle knowing lies with the goal of their falsehoods being repeated and disseminated for their political advantage, these statements by Mr Bobulinski cannot and must not go unchecked.’ Hunter Biden’s business deals are being investigated by several committees in Congress: the House Oversight Committee; House Judiciary; and House Ways & Means Committees.

The Oversight Committee on X accused Lowell of attempting to intimidate Bobulinski, who might be called to testify. ‘Hunter Biden and his legal team are once again attacking anyone who speaks out against the Bidens,’ the Oversight Committee wrote. ‘This time, their target is Tony Bobulinski, a potential witness in our investigation. ‘We will not tolerate witness intimidation. The truth will come out soon enough despite the Biden team’s threatening tactics. ‘We will give Hunter the opportunity to clear the air and speak with us soon.’

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Turley makes the exact same point I did a few days ago. Can you indict Trump for having bad lawyers? Sidney Powell and Lin Wood went way overboard after the election. But how was he supposed to know at the time? They were his lawyers… They presented it to him, and to the media, as an open and shut case.

Can Jack Smith Convict Trump For Being Lured By Bad Lawyers’ Advice? (Turley)

In Homer’s “Odyssey,” Odysseus faces one of his most fearsome threats — the three Sirens, beautiful sea creatures who lure sailors to their ruin with their seductive songs. Special Counsel Jack Smith and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis have offered a modern version of the Sirens in the lure of bad lawyering. Three lawyers have recently pleaded guilty in Georgia, and they may join other former counsel in testifying against their former client. What is novel is the criminal “Siren’s call” theory of these cases. Former President Donald Trump is being prosecuted for following the advice of his counsel, who are now effectively saying that he should not have believed what they were telling him. Indeed, some sound like they were lured by the Siren call of Trump, led astray from their better legal judgment.

Kenneth Chesebro’s attorney, Scott Grubman, says that “Mr. Chesebro never believed in ‘the Big Lie’” and believes that Biden won the election. Likewise, Sidney Powell has argued that “no reasonable person would conclude that my statements were truly statements of fact” as opposed to opinions. Jenna Ellis recently stated “Why I have chosen to distance is because of that frankly malignant narcissistic tendency to simply say that he’s never done anything wrong.” Yet these lawyers were not just confident but enthusiastic after the election in pursuing the claims they now repudiate. Moreover, their plea agreements had a number of notable omissions. First, none pleaded guilty to a conspiracy with Trump or to racketeering. Second, none will face jail time, and the prosecution has agreed that they did not commit crimes of moral turpitude. All three could keep their licenses.

It is also not clear that these attorneys would implicate Trump if called. They could prove more damaging to other defendants such as Rudy Giuliani, or they could still prove harmful to the prosecution’s overall theory. They secured no jail deals, but only agreed to testify truthfully. Some, like Ellis, may now have animus but lack evidence against Trump in establishing a conspiracy or racketeering claim. Both the federal and state prosecutions are premised on the claim that Trump never believed what he was saying about a stolen election. If Trump actually did believe he had viable claims in the courts or Congress, the prosecutions would collapse. Even Smith admits that Trump’s early election claims were protected political speech, but at some point became a criminal conspiracy when Trump had to know that his claims were baseless.

he most dangerous aspect to the federal indictment is that Smith leaves the line entirely undefined for future cases. If Trump crossed the Rubicon into criminal conduct in his election claims, Smith should be able to point to the river on the map. Instead, Smith offers no limiting principle on when election claims move from the sensational to the criminal. That is particularly concerning, since many election claims in the courts or Congress have been unfounded. For example, Marc Elias, who served as general counsel to Hillary Clinton’s campaign and played a key role in its secret funding of the infamous Steele dossier, challenged past elections on such grounds. After the 2020 election, he challenged a New York election by claiming that voting machines had flipped the results in favor of the Republicans through mistabulations.

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Wonder what format he will give it. No cameras..

Tucker Carlson Visits Assange In Prison (RT)

Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson visited Wikileaks founder Julian Assange at London’s Belmarsh Prison on Thursday, Carlson revealed in a post on X (formerly Twitter) later that day. The American journalist included a photo of himself walking with Assange’s wife, Stella Moris. The post garnered positive reactions from activists who have collaborated with Wikileaks in the past, including Mega founder Kim Dotcom and former British MP George Galloway. While Carlson did not elaborate on the nature of his visit, media commentary suggested it was an interview for Carlson’s popular self-titled show on X. He previously interviewed Assange’s father and brother for a Fox News segment in 2021, and again earlier this year.

 Carlson has condemned Assange’s continued incarceration as a violation of the Wikileaks founder’s First Amendment rights, and said it sets a disastrous precedent for other journalists and publishers who work with classified material. Assange has appealed his pending extradition to the US, where he faces up to 175 years in prison on charges of violating the Espionage Act. The charges stem from Wikileaks’ publication of a trove of secret documents leaked by US Army intelligence analyst and whistleblower Chelsea (formerly Bradley) Manning in 2010, which dealt with the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Wikileaks publisher has been imprisoned in Belmarsh since 2019, when he was expelled from the Ecuadorian embassy in London where he had lived for seven years. Assange was granted political asylum and later Ecuadorian citizenship, both of which were revoked ahead of his arrest.

While Caroline Kennedy, the US ambassador to Australia, hinted in August that Washington might consider a plea deal allowing Assange to return to his home country if he pleaded guilty to lesser charges, legal experts have pointed out that any such deal would almost certainly require him to travel to the US for a formal admission of guilt – a condition he is unlikely to accept. Additionally, US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has shown no signs of relenting in pursuit of the publisher, recently rejecting overtures from Canberra with the explanation that Assange’s actions had “risked very serious harm to our national security, to the benefit of our adversaries, and put named human sources at grave risk of physical harm, grave risk of detention.” Members of Congress hailing from both parties have petitioned the presidential administration of Joe Biden to drop the extradition request and abandon the prosecution of Assange.

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    Hieronymus Bosch St. Jerome in Prayer 1482   • The US and Hezbollah Want The Same Thing From Israel-Hamas War (Scott Ritter) • Iraqis Warn Of Wes
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle November 5 2023]

    #145992
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The effect of equating Anti-Zionism with Anti-Semitism is that the incautious (unconscious?) minds of the world are being prepared to blame everything on the Jews, and to consequently take it out on them. . . again.

    The ploy is being implemented by Zionists, of course, and these so-called Zionists are no more Jewish in actual fact than is a stone. They simply use the words and other trappings as camouflage.. Before the last few millennia they used other words and other trappings and other camouflage, but the nature and purpose of these so-called “Zionists” has always been the same, and has never been good.

    By their fruits you will know them. If you try to identify them by any other measure you will be deceived, and of all of their other despicable traits (such as blood lust, boundless greed, insatiable thirst for power and deriving sexual gratification from child murder) it is deceit that is their most defining characteristic.

    To the Jews of the world (and especially to those who are most convinced that they are God’s chosen people) I implore and advise that you take heed of the obvious, and re-examine the very nature of deception, which in its most basic form is simply the holding of a false or misleading belief.

    You have been led (perhaps willingly, or maybe just through endless repetition or mental laziness) to believe that you are the chosen ones. You must ask yourselves, chosen according to whom, exactly, and chosen for what? Have you been deceived into a false belief?

    From the earliest recorded times the Jews have been known as The People of the Book, and that the Book says that God chose you to rule over all of the world and all of the people and things that are in it.

    But is that actually true, or have you been deceived by Zionists? The evidence is all around you, written in the blood of slaughtered children and spoken in the inconsolably anguished cries of their survivors.

    Don’t tell me what the inked words in a book MIGHT say (for there are countless interpretations). Tell me what God says.

    I say this because the Zionists are laying YOU upon the sacrificial altar, and there is not one God damned holy thing about it.

    #145993
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes
    Zeno’s paradoxes
    Space must be created to resolve the problems (expanding universe.)

    ———–

    • The US and Hezbollah Want The Same Thing From Israel-Hamas War (Scott Ritter)

    ‘escalation ladder’
    ———
    • Iraqis Warn Of Western Plan To Move Gazans To Anbar Desert (Cradle)

    to create an “alternative homeland”
    ———–

    Peace –
    “Everyone is ready for that except for Zelenksy, Biden, Blinken, Sullivan, Nuland, Senator Graham, and Congressman Schiff..” – negotiations with Russia

    • NATO’s Backfired Ukraine Strategy Built on Ideology, Bribery & Blackmail (Sp.)

    Russia fully intends to reach all the objectives of its special military operation.
    ————

    #146000
    Noirette
    Participant

    On EU state’s most popular party wants Israeli ambassador expelled. top post.

    Re. Ireland. It is not a member of NATO. Neutral in WW2 (could not be on the side of GB, though many individuals joined on that side.)

    IR was, is, a keen adherent in the EU, as that represented (imho) belonging somehow to a larger entity.

    Of course EU funds and the EU tolerance of exceptionalism re. tax laws, etc. were activated to give Ireland a ‘boost’ if I may call it that helped that adherence along. — Not to mention it created a foothold into the EU with plentiful educated English speakers for hire by Big US Corps like Apple.

    Plus, N. I. (GB) vs. Repub. IR conflict was ugly (Peace and Democracy are European values, cheers all round) and had to be stopped or at least contained. (> Blair, Good Friday Agreement.)

    Now, inevitably in a way, GB out of the EU, and Ireland keenly in, the calculation comes to a kind of clumsy fruition.

    Idk – I’d like to go there and see, talk.

    IR was extremely COV19 repressive (as reported by MSM, I have no direct experience) and pro-jibby-jab, right in line with EU endorsement of Big Corps, and other ‘developed’ eng-speaking ‘developed’ countries like Australia and NZ.

    Yet, IR retains support and sympathy for oppressed ppls, such as the Palestinians, via Sinn Fein, a ‘nationalist’, ‘for the people party’…

    https://vote.sinnfein.ie -> first time I looked at this site – hmmm.

    Clare Daly is pretty good.. at the EU parliament. Here just 1 min.

    #146001
    phoenixvoice
    Participant

    @ DBS

    So true…
    I found that to be glaringly obvious as well when the Israeli people were offered up on a platter to Pfizer. It is the same when Israelis are “settled” into illegal settlements, illegal because it is against international law for Israel to be colonizing occupied Palestinian territory. And also similar to how the IDF howls about Hamas using Israeli prisoners as “human shields” and then the IDF slaughters their own prisoners rather than negotiating for or rescuing them.

    A lesson to us: if a the world collectively ignores a country committing non-violent or less-violent violations of international law, such as Israel appropriating Palestinian land, settling on it, blockading Gaza, imprisoning Palestinians for mild or made up offenses, then, over time, the violations are likely to grow more bold, and become more violent, as has occurred in Gaza in the past three weeks.

    (And then I think about my own country, the US, and how it has violated international law in the decades of my life, growing bolder over time. This is a sorry trajectory.)

    #146002
    tboc
    Participant

    Saturday and Sunday millions are drawn to their television sets morfphing their identity into that of a faceless crowd wearing a team jersey. Hour after hour multinational corporations pay to insure the identity loss drug is freely dispensed. James Taylor described a similar experience: “No I do not dig the big time rock n roll, sit in the dark be somebody else”. What a wonder is the satellite broadcast of faux pagentry and talk, nostalgia inducing sounds and talk and talk and talk at radio wavelengths. Please do not forget you are a profit center and the marketing arm needs your help. Proudly say to yourself, “I Am A Profit Center”. Careful! don’t injure yourself patting yourself on the back!!!!!

    The multinational corporations that dispense the identity loss drug and work assidiously to assure total lack of satisfaction might be compared to pin worms. What do these multinational corporations do with the profits so willingly provided to them? Profit driven, the sponsor of the intertainment you deserve invest in starving, maiming, poisoning and murdering children. C’mon man 10% for the Big Guy. This market has more potential than character assasination!

    Today’s game is brought to you by MERCHANTS of DEATH ™

    Enjoy the GAME
    get what you deserve – non-intuitive financial

    #146003
    Noirette
    Participant

    Three excerpts from Thierry Meyssan’s latest post:

    Contrary to what I wrote last week based on dispatches from Western and Arab news agencies filtered by Israeli military censorship, Israel’s attack on October 7, 2023 (operation “Al-Aqsa Flood) “) was not perpetrated by Hamas alone. Its triggering was decided by a unitary operation chamber of the entire Palestinian Resistance. Hamas, which is by far the main component, provided the bulk of the troops, but three other groups participated: 
 Islamic Jihad (Sunni and Khomeinist), 
the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (Marxist) 
and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-CG).

    ———

    In 2023, Iran hosted talks between the region’s various pro-independence forces, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and Hamas. They were held in Beirut (Lebanon) under the presidency of General Ismaïl Qaani, commander of the al-Quds brigades of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards. Their aim was to reconcile these actors who had fought a ferocious war in Gaza, then in Syria. These meetings were made public in May 2023. On this occasion the Lebanese press discussed the preparation of the unitary operation which was carried out on October 7. Iran is therefore responsible for reconciling the Palestinian factions.

    ———–

    On October 5, the CIA warned the Mossad of a major operation by the United Palestinian Resistance. The United States was worried about its scale. However, according to the New York Times, the CIA reports (September 28 and October 5), still classified, did not mention the use of new combat techniques by the Palestinian Resistance. Israeli intelligence services then held a meeting to assess the threat. The Shin Bet (counterespionage) and Amman (military intelligence) participated.

    ——–

    https://www.voltairenet.org/article219959.html

    #146004
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Why, at the moment of the Jews’ greatest ascendancy, with the Holocaust so new and intense in recent memory of the west, did Alfried Krupp walk out of prison after just 3 years, not to destitution, but one of the greatest fortunes in the world.

    If there are special jews and other jews, how did Krupp’s PEERS in power and wealth end up working and dying in his slave labor camps? How did a ROTHSCHILD end up having his entire industrial infrastructure looted by Krupp and end up in his camp? Not only killing jews in volume, but the most established important category we know of? And he walks out of that prison to a restored industrial empire?

    So do we go with the zionism took over the west or the nazis took over the west (paperclip) post ww2?

    #146005
    jb-hb
    Participant

    according to the New York Times, the CIA reports (September 28 and October 5), still classified, did not mention the use of new combat techniques by the Palestinian Resistance

    Apparently not a single CIA or Mossad member plays Rust online and therefore hasn’t logged 100+ hours breaching heavily fortified locations with minicopters but Hamas has? But then the average age between the two sides must be vastly different.

    #146006
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    dbs and jb-hb workin’ overtime today.

    aspnaz and celticbiker the ball’s in your court.

    #146007
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Idunno I mean, there IS, revealed in 2020, top-down universal control over things like virtually all press/media, the entire health industry and international health organizations, scientific and medical publications, governments worldwide, etc.

    We have conclusive proof there IS most definitely a giant blob of some kind that brooks virtually no argument, debate, or questions, certainly no contradictions and has no scruples whatsoever. And if anything prefers to be super-shitty about everything constantly.

    Call it global marxism (the only kind of marxism other than the nationalist kind) the komintern/global marxism, globalISM… hm. Or call it what, corporate elites? Secret ancient bloodlines? Aliens? Secret societies, satanists, what have you? A weird hidden Gnostic/Hermetic religion using marxism as a skinsuit?

    CALL it “The Jews” and whether you are right or wrong, the Blob, whatever it is, IS still there. Not disproven if it’s just jewish people going about their day not plotting the overthrow of civilization and others being secret assholes. Even so, the blob is still there, whatever it is exactly.

    The 999,999% jabbed policy in Israel doesn’t look too good for jews. Legalizing firing on their own people doesn’t either. Stupid domestic and foreign policies leading to the ruin of Israel doesn’t exactly look good either. From what I am reading, there’s a crackdown on other points of view within the country, calls to negotiate or make peace, protests. Looking a bit like Ukraine if anything.

    Does Israel have a right to exist and what happens to all those Israelis if it does not? And international opinion is gradually turning into an absolute landslide against Israel. Which leads towards – no right to exist. “successfully” bombing bits of Gaza, ok. But their own policy is – overused word, but here it is TRUE – leading to an EXISTENTIAL moment for Israel. And all you had to do to keep surviving and existing indefinitely into the future was be not QUITE this bad!!!

    Unless they’re like the South on the eve of the US civil war, thinking “I can take him” and contemptuously going for it because feelz. Like if the South had a Putin in charge with his infinitely-fine-tuned meat slicer of escalation and a firm grip on local commanders, the South would have made it.
    There’d be a confederacy today. I’m not speaking to the desirability or undesirability of that, just that they fucked up and it was their own business not to. But even separated from the North, they couldn’t tolerate a humble destiny. Thought they could whip the northerners and lay claim to chunks of the West, get the North to agree the South gets a free hand in Cuba, Central America (the south invaded Cuba several times looking to create one or several additional slave states) My opinion is the US civil war was really about the west, future expansion, and spheres of influence

    What Israel is doing right now seems monumentally stupid in terms of the welfare of Jews and Israel. Unless they’re convinced they can whup everyone and settle things the way the want finally, Really Have It All (R.H.I.A) which I doubt they can do. Just for instance, I severely doubt Iran doesn’t have nukes.

    Israel could really use an Otto Von Bismark right about now.

    #146008
    zerosum
    Participant

    Look at what I found with references.
    Why depopulation of Gaza?

    Massive Oil and Gas Reserves Discovered Under Gaza


    Massive Oil and Gas Reserves Discovered Under Gaza
    Nov 4th, 2023

    Massive Oil and Gas Reserves Discovered Under Gaza – Israel Grants Development Licenses


    Massive Oil and Gas Reserves Discovered Under Gaza – Israel Grants Development Licenses
    Fact checked

    Four years ago, the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) published a report on “the unrealized potential of Palestinian oil and gas reserves.” The report estimates these reserves could generate “hundreds of billions of dollars” for whoever develops them. It also criticizes Israel for preventing Palestinians from developing those resources as a way to alleviate their massive poverty. You can read it here.

    https://unctad.org/publication/economic-costs-israeli-occupation-palestinian-people-unrealized-oil-and-natural-gas?ref=okdoomer.io

    The Economic Costs of the Israeli Occupation for the Palestinian People: The Unrealized Oil and Natural Gas Potential
    (HIGHLIGHT)

    https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf
    This study was prepared by the UNCTAD secretariat, drawing on a study prepared for UNCTAD
    by Mr. Atif Kubursi, Professor Emeritus of Economics, McMaster University, Ontario, Canada.
    This study seeks to stimulate debate on the research subject.
    Any references to dollars ($) are to United States dollars.
    In tables, two dots (..) indicate that data are not available.
    2019, United Nations

    first, Look at the two maps
    UNCTAD/GDS/APP/2019/1
    ISBN: 978-92-1-112947-2
    eISBN: 978-92-1-004076-1
    Sales No. E.19.II.D.10

    Contents
    Acronyms …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. iv
    Executive summary ……………………………………………………………………………………………………….. v
    I. Objectives and organization of the study …………………………………………………………………….. 1
    II. The legal framework: Historical precedents ………………………………………………………………. 3
    III. The economics of the occupation: A synopsis ……………………………………………………………. 6
    A. Israel’s exploitation of Palestinian natural resources ……………………………………………….. 8
    B. Resource transfer to Israel, neglect of the public sector and erosion of policy space ….. 10
    IV. The theoretical basis for estimating the costs of occupation …………………………………….. 13
    A. Welfare economics and the costs of occupation …………………………………………………….. 13
    B. Property rights, contested resources, losses and compensation regimes ……………………. 15
    V. Oil and natural gas in the Occupied Palestinian Territory and the Levant Basin ………. 18
    A. Gaza’s natural gas fields and Meged oil field in the West Bank ………………………………. 20
    B. Oil and gas in Israel: New discoveries ………………………………………………………………….. 26
    VI. Estimating the value of the oil and natural gas reserves in Israel: What is the
    Palestinian share of these resources? ……………………………………………………………………… 30
    VII. Conclusion …………………………………………………………………………………………………………… 31
    Figures, tables and maps
    Figure The principle of compensation …………………………………………………………………….. 14
    Table 1. Exploration rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territory …………………………………… 25
    Table 2. Reserves of oil, natural gas and shale oil in the Occupied Palestinian Territory
    (averages) ……………………………………………………………………………………………………. 26
    Table 3. Oil production and natural gas production and consumption in Israel …………………. 27
    Table 4. Reserves of oil, natural gas and shale oil in Israel (averages) …………………………….. 28
    Map 1. Location of the three assessment units in the Levant Basin Province in the Eastern
    Mediterranean ……………………………………………………………………………………………… 19
    Map 2. Israel and areas of the Palestinian National Authority ………………………………………… 24

    #146009
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/israel-awards-gas-exploration-licences-eni-bp-four-others-2023-10-29/

    Israel awards gas exploration licences to Eni, BP and four others
    By Ari Rabinovitch and Steven Scheer
    October 30, 20233:08 AM PDTUpdated 6 days ago

    The licence awards, which came as the Israel-Hamas conflict entered its fourth week, included one group led by Italy’s Eni (ENI.MI) along with Dana Petroleum and Israel’s Ratio Energies (RATIp.TA) which will explore in an area west of the massive Leviathan field, which supplies Israel with gas and is also used for export.
    A second group, involving Azerbaijan’s national oil company Socar along with BP (BP.L) and Israel’s NewMed (NWMDp.TA), will explore north of the Leviathan, the ministry said.

    “The winning companies have committed to unprecedented investment in natural gas exploration over the next three years, which would hopefully result in the discovery of new natural gas reservoirs,” Energy Minister Israel Katz said.

    #146010
    zerosum
    Participant

    Bob Hardage: Using seismic technologies in oil and gas exploration


    Using seismic technologies in oil and gas exploration

    #146011
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    This late in the game, if you cant see the jewthing, the money, the media, the pedophile coksuckers who prtetend to represent you…you are 1 dumbass motherfucker.

    #146012
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Just as predicted, Hamas soldiers popping up from the tunnels in the rubble and snuffing one IDF armored vehicle after another.

    Boy that rumble is quite the camouflage, just like in Stalingrad.

    #146013
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Celticbiker wrote:

    This late in the game,
    if you cant see the jewthing,
    the money,
    the media,
    the pedophile coksuckers who prtetend to represent you…you are 1 dumbass motherfucker.

    Celticbiker rconsider this:

    The evil is coming from the government.

    Forget about the jewthing.

    Deal with the evil government thing.

    And then perhaps we will have to deal with the bank thing, and other things

    #146014
    zerosum
    Participant

    Celticbiker
    Help.
    Go find the contracts, and checks as proof

    #146015
    kultsommer
    Participant

    MSNBC?

    #146016
    Celticbiker
    Participant

    Mike, hate to give you the bad news, jews are your government.

    #146017
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Celticbiker I am sure there are many lovely beautiful souls among the jews.

    You just need to be selective when dealing with the problem.

    Otherwise that would be evil

    #146018
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Even though I don’t believe in religion,
    I think Jesus and I would get along pretty good.

    I told my Dad last night I am Christian in much of my thinking.

    I also told him sometimes threats to the family need to be eliminated with deadly force.

    If that is not Christian then it should be

    #146019
    Michael Reid
    Participant


    Of all the many insults hurled at the pro-ivermectin camp
    during the pandemic—and believe me,
    there have been boatloads—my favorite has to be “grifter.”

    Because clearly people like Dr. Pierre Kory,
    the tireless researcher, brilliant physician,
    and fearless author of The War on Ivermectin—risk their lives
    and their livelihoods to promote
    a cheap,
    off-patent,
    life-saving medication out of overpowering,
    arely-veiled greed.

    https://pierrekorymedicalmusings.com/cp/138612973

    #146020
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    Makes you wonder what is realps://sagehana.substack.com/p/trump-the-weinsteins-tucker-carlson

    https://sagehana.substack.com/p/trump-the-weinsteins-tucker-carlson

    #146027
    citizenx
    Participant

    The evil is coming from the government.

    Forget about the jewthing.

    Bull fucking shit !

    It is a Govt that of/ THE JEWISH STATE . The JEW homeland for ALL Jews. Fuck off with your lies.

    Even though I don’t believe in religion,

    I told my Dad last night I am Christian in much of my thinking.

    You don’t believe in Religions- but you call yourself Christian ?
    Are you fucking retarded ?
    You can’t have it both ways- unless of course you indentify as half man half woman.

    – This is the JEWISH state, of the Jew religion committing genocide- the very same JEWS that play holocaust victims.

    America IS a Christian Nation. Look at the mother fucking dollar- what does it say ?

    IN GOD WE TRUST !!!!

    So in your fucked up mind a Jew is NOT a Jew- a Christian is NOT a Christian ?

    So no Religion is ever accountable ? Fuck off with that bullshit.

    Thanks Oroborus-

    Whats the difference between a BBQ’d UkroNazi and a BBQ’d Zionist Nazi ?

    Hahaha- ones a fucking JEW.

    ..

    Americans and Canadians hate truth- they just can’t deal with reality.

    #146028
    citizenx
    Participant

    You just need to be selective when dealing with the problem.

    Otherwise that would be evil

    Really ? So good does not triumph over Evil ?

    Good kicking the shit out of evil is evil ?

    Again I will call you retarded.

    Good ending evil is not evil… you can’t have it both ways. Maybe toughen up flower ?

    #146036
    aspnaz
    Participant

    The USA has been supporting evil for a very long time, the people of the USA are guilty, regardless of how unwilling they are to take responsibility for the actions of the country they choose to live in. The Jews run the USA, they have brought their morality to the USA, the other Americans are now sitting in their homes watching their tax dollars kill babies in Gaza; but it is not their fault, what can they do?

    Americans really are hopeless, even the people of China have more control over their government than do the Americans; Americans ain’t leaving the sofa for anyone. The Jews have them by the balls and the USA Jews and Israel Jews are going to erdicate the Palestinians. Every single American will have to share the guilt with the rest of the west that allows its governments to pretend that this is not genocide; but duh, the American’s don’t do guilt. They are special, same as the Jews, they are the chosen ones, they can kill brown people without having to do guilt; they are sure God said so.

    I wonder if the Americans believe there are ten commandments especially for them too? Like the Jews have their own version where “thou shalt not kill” is replaced with “thou shalt genocide Palestinians”, maybe the Americans replace “thou shalt not nat have any god before me” with “thou shalt worship the Jews as your first God, I am just the backup”, or something like that.

    Religion would be a joke if it wern’t so destructive.

    #146037
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    citizenx wrote:

    Really ? So good does not triumph over Evil ?

    Good kicking the shit out of evil is evil ?

    Again I will call you retarded.

    Good ending evil is not evil… you can’t have it both ways. Maybe toughen up flower ?

    citizenx what you fail to understand is
    the facts of a person just being a citizen of Israel and / or a jew
    does not make that person evil just because of those facts.

    Similarily

    not all whites are evil
    not all blacks are evil
    not all jews are evil

    Smarten up citizenx

    #146040
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    aspnaz wrote:

    Every single American will have to share the guilt
    with the rest of the west
    that allows its governments to pretend that this is not genocide

    This idea of an individual being guilty of something because
    their country did something evil is simply stupid.
    Same with the idea of sharing the guilt.

    Seems pretty clear to me that the citizens of a country
    have little impact on the rulers of a country

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    Why genocide?
    It’s not magic.
    It’s diverting your attention.
    Look at what is hidden in the white noise.

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/israel-awards-gas-exploration-licences-eni-bp-four-others-2023-10-29/

    https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf
    Map 1. Location of the three assessment units in the Levant Basin Province in the Eastern
    Mediterranean ……………………………………………………………………………………………… 19
    Map 2. Israel and areas of the Palestinian National Authority………………………………………… 24

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    #146045
    zerosum
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    I goto pause and “How to Remove Trovi Search”

    #146049
    Dr. D
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    Am I crazy or did everything I post vanish here? And I already had to try 3x and cut into 3 parts.

    And now a PSA from Europe. Europe, “The Garden People.”
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    “The FBI created “a new category of extremists that it seeks to track and counter: Donald Trump’s army of MAGA followers,” Newsweek revealed.”

    Why is this in “Newsweek and Shill Report”? Before an election?

    “The FBI crackdown is following some of the most overheated political rhetoric of our era. Biden has denounced Trump supporters for “semi-fascism.”

    They may be right! Semi fascism is when there are Corporations, and there is a State, but they’re not merged. It’s a sad world where the FBI does not work for Amazon, Raytheon, and Taser.

    “Biden’s FBI views Trump supporters as a deadly threat to democracy, thereby justifying subverting or crippling Trump supporters’ ability to oppose Biden and other Democrats.”

    Great, great… One question: did they commit any CRIMES? We prosecute crimes, not feelings. We don’t generally prosecute intent because it’s unprovable. We prosecute criminal ACTIONS. Note the recent round of cases: Trump’s INTENT to defraud. J6 CONSPIRED to commit acts they didn’t commit, that is, they had THOUGHTS and may have even spoken on the thoughts. People SAID THINGS on Twitter, in Memes, etc.

    Introduce any lie an I’ll use it. Those “laws”, aren’t. But because we had a line, a gray area, they had to cross the line and break the area. No borders, boundaries, or rules. I THOUGHT. You FELT. That’s a crime.

    Adam Serwer: Yes, “The Atlantic.” They actually said something. Okay, so why? Why now? Is it because they don’t know which Narrative was printed on The Memo? They had to self-solve this equation? Does that not show terminal weakness?

    Ah Obama, the minimum of slick. Everyone is so meth-addled brain-damaged that even this normal minimum seems stellar these days. What was his opening word? “If there’s any chance of us being able to act…” You mean like not giving the $6-9 Billion dollars a year that allowed all this?

    “The US and Hezbollah Want The Same Thing From Israel-Hamas War (Scott Ritter)

    Very long interview on Haiphong https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv1P6FeJw3U&pp=ygUcc2NvdHQgcml0dGVyIGRhbm55IGhhaXBob25nIA%3D%3D

    “This notion might have remained confined to the realm of “conspiracy theories”

    …Except that a major government said that it’s real? Major governments and Presidents’, official releases = Conspiracy Theory. Anyone want to tell me what is NOT a Conspiracy Theory around here? Only CIA statements posted on Reuters? S—t TikTok influencers make up? Things ACTUALLY published by the US Navy ON their own website (e..g. “UFOs”) are “Not real.”

    Oh and in this case, identical to what was OFFICIALLY released as OFFICIAL agree-on, consensus reality of pushing them out to the Egypt desert. Obama eats Bacon! Trump Eats Bacon! Biden eats Bacon! RFK eats bacon? Pshaaah! You “Conspiracy Theorist”! There’s no evidence for that! Where do you get such deranged fantasies?

    “Israeli ambassador Dana Erlich “should no longer enjoy diplomatic status in Ireland,” Sinn Fein party leader Mary Lou McDonald said on Friday.”

    That awkward moment when the IRA wants you expelled for Terrorism…

    Anyway, while you guys were flapping your gums thinking about maybe holding a meeting, which might result in a resolution, to possibly look into consequences, 10,000 are dead because Israel has a longstanding plan to act fast. That is to say, basically you’re helping, at no risk of your own. Now 10k is only 0.5%, but that would be 1.2Million proportional to the United States. And like 500,000 children.

    ““Zelensky said the war between Israel and Hamas had also drawn attention away from Ukraine, and said that this was “Russia’s goal”. Excuse me, how does this work?”

    How? Putin is everywhere. Like Putin.

    “Putin is everywhere
    Putin is everything
    Putin is everybody
    Putin is still the king

    Man o man
    What I want you to see
    Is that the big P’s
    Inside of you and me

    Putin is everywhere, man!
    He’s in everything
    He’s in everybody…

    Putin is in your jeans
    He’s in your cheeseburgers
    Putin is in Nutty Buddies!
    Putin is in your mom!”

    And if you ain’t got Mojo Mixon, your store could use some fixin’.

    ““..There’s a growing sense that it’s too late, and it’s time to do a deal..”

    Actually, I’d like to take this time to thank Boris Johnson, and thank him from the bottom of all our hearts. If not for his blinding and senseless interference, Russia would not be in the position they are today, with Ukraine collapsing and falling almost entirely into Russian hands.

    Yes, if Boris hadn’t flown in and put a stop to it – while he wasn’t Prime Minister – Putin might have merely negotiated for Crimea, for a UN referendum on the Donbass, and stopped merely with Donetsk and Luhansk. Or possibly not gotten them at all, merely upholding the special legal status and tolerance of Russian language and religion. But Boris prevented all that! He, and he alone insured that Putin would take, conquer and control Ukraine in 5 new Oblasts, 9 million new people, plus what will at a minimum be 15 million by including Kharkiv, Mykolaiv, and Odessa.

    Boris, you da man!!! No Putin has ever had a friend like Boris, you were a friend. With a name like Boris, he must be Russian after all, right? So mark April 10th on your Calendar as Boris Johnson Day, the new day of Ukrainian absorption into Russia entirely, like 1776, the day they ceased to be. Ah BoJo, we couldn’t have done it without you.

    ““…There’s a growing sense that it’s too late, and it’s time to do a deal,” one former senior Washington official was quoted as saying.”

    Speaking of dinosaurs, so big that signals from their tail takes weeks to reach their tiny, tiny brains. Yes. That day was in April 2022. Back when Kissinger, the greatest warmonger of our miserable age, told you “Make peace, you fools.”

    “Kiev needed to take a massive technological leap to break the current “stalemate” in its counteroffensive”

    Ah “Technology”. The Progressive word for “Magic”. Wave that magic blue screen and say the magic word “Racism, racism, racism” three times, and anything you wish for is yours.

    Btw, there is no “Stalemate”. Russia is fighting a war of attrition, which means that when you have undergone adequate “attrition”, you lose. And they roll over you and do whatever they like for as long as they like. As bridge trolls like me and stoner comedians high at 8am like Jimmy Dore said from the first week. You’re not going to beat a nation 10x your size. …Unless the U.S. fully commits to WWIII which was the Euro-Davos plan.

    “NATO’s Backfired Ukraine Strategy Built on Ideology, Bribery & Blackmail (Sp.)

    Well, yes, because the whole WEST is built on nothing but Ideology, Bribery, and Blackmail. CNN report that “Support among American people for Ukraine drops”, there was never any support to begin with. Nobody knows who Ukraine is, where they are, nor cared if they lived or not. CNN and Rassmussen fabricate fake stories with fake numbers to make Congressmen THINK anyone cared. Americans don’t know who we fought in the Revolution or what nations were in the Franco-Prussian war. How do you care about a people you don’t know exist?

    If you do this, I’ll give you $10 Million for yourself and your campaign (astonishingly, legally the same thing). If you DON’T do this, I will primary you, make up slanderous felonies about you, and expose your blackmail files. So you can either get rich and screw 15-year-olds, OR you can die in prison. Free country! Your choice.

    And although it’s different, it’s not just politics. A people that is deeply, core immoral or a-moral makes similar decisions everywhere. From making tanks to selling cat food.

    “In effect, however, no amount of sophisticated weaponry worth however many billions of dollars would be sufficient to help Kiev in its counteroffensive. … “in each of these publicly stated objectives, if there was a strategy to do these things, it backfired and failed in all cases,” added the retired Lieutenant Colonel. Such “across the board failures” can only mean that “either the strategy was so bad it should have never made it off the table, or the aim had been to fail be destroyed,”

    In the long interview with Ritter he was able to get to the level of detail I usually pass over. That is, giving US weapons to Ukraine actively HARMS them. In 20 deep, slashing ways. How specifically, and the Pentagon knows this? Because Soviet weapons are built to be rugged, even if that makes them crude. But therefore, the ARMIES are logistically built and trained to that reality, that you put men in the field and they have X support, Y ammunition, ratio of X to Y logistics vs infantry.

    But US/NATO weapons are ALL support. And all support on entirely incompatable, different systems. Not JUST that an Abrams engine, a Bradley and a Stryker have different parts, engines, everything, but that they are different from a Leopard, a G-Wagon, a LeClerc, and a powered howitzer too. All anti-tank, different. All night vision, different. All tactics, parts, repairs, different. So you suddenly need 5x more back-end logistics to get a single bullet up front.

    So Ukraine got the TANK, the Bradley, but no Bradley repairmen? No full-form Bradley repair depots? No 10,000 parts? No 777 barrels? No ammunition transport vehicles?

    AND ! … As I just said, the ratio of support to soldier is different by 5x, 10x, 25x?

    Sir, you have just DISORDERED AND DESTROYED THEIR ARMY. Ukraine not only has no battle readiness, but CAN have no battle readiness in these conditions, until you fix these foundational issues. AND. THE. PENTAGON. KNOWS. THIS.

    Meanwhile, idiot-loons like Zelensky want F-16s. Saps and weasels like Klaus and Ursula are satisfied all is well with The Plan if we provide artillery THAT DESTROYS UKRAINIAN READINESS. Because: who cares about the details? That’s for the “Little People.” I’m much too important for that.

    Tell me how this can be an accident for the 10,000th time.

    “either the strategy was so bad it should have never made it off the table, or the aim had been to fail”

    Uh. Huh. Oopsie. All an accident. Always in the same direction.

    To end the Empire. America First.

    “The White House can sneak out, and blame Mike Johnson. Perfect for them.
    • Ukraine Aid Drying Up – White House (RT)

    Game. Set. Match. Screw you guys, We’re going home.

    See Kim Dotcom. Ouch.

    “Turley makes the exact same point I did a few days ago. Can you indict Trump for having bad lawyers? Sidney Powell and Lin Wood went way overboard after the election.”

    Did they? Howso? They got out with an AK and shot a crowd? Or did they “File paperwork” in order to follow the legal process of recount, etc, as the Constitution legally allows, and is a process actually followed without incident quite recently, getting redress in open court?

    That’s not Overboard, and we won’t know if they were Bad Lawyers until someone takes up the case somewhere, which has yet to happen.

    It’s nice to say so, but keeps the Overton window pegged on the Hard Left, out of view of the open corruption that has been arrested and imprisoned in several places.

    Carlson. Well at least somebody hasn’t forgotten Assange.

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