Debt Rattle February 18 2022
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I was thinking just now that the police have a right to protect themselves from the rabble just as much as the rabble have the right to protect themselves from the police and the damned kill-shots that the police are helping to enforce by mandate. The right to self defense is a “First Principles” kind of right. Axiomatic.
So the choice ultimately all comes down to the difference between right and wrong. Which side is protecting the rights of human beings the most & thereby threatening those rights the least, and which side is trying to enforce the “right” of ANY group to involuntarily impose their “will-to-kill” on others . . . against the will of those would-be victims.
Sure looks like an easy call to me.
@boscohorowitz implored me firmly to . . .”just don’t go talking unsubstantiated smack about a man. . .”
I ain’t talkin smack, Jack, ( sorry, sorry, sorry . . . I just couldn’t resist) I’m just sayin’ like it is.
The trucker win because :
1. the world has noticed.
2. The mandates are ending
3, The ruling snobs will realized that they are standing on quicksand if they pass the “Act” when the convoy has been displaced from “the red zone”This mentality is laughable. “The world has noticed”!?!? Here is a newsflash for you: The world laughs at the truckers. The world is dealing with a pandemic. “The mandates are ending” because the global pandemic has gotten to a point where the mandates CAN end in certain places where infection rates have dropped below acceptable levels to “end the mandates”.
Imagine something. Think of WWII and the years from D-Day until Hitler committed suicide in Berlin in April of 1945. Think of the death and destruction that took place between those two events, all leading to VE day. Imagine now, a group of “Freedom Fighters” entering the streets of Berlin on May 1, 1945 and demanding an end to the war. Imagine they parked their trucks in downtown Berlin in front of the Reichstag holding signs that said “End the War!”, “No More Nazi’s”, etc. And then, on May 8, the war ends and these “Freedom Fighters” claim that because of their actions, the war in Europe is over!
The fucking pandemic has infected like 75% of the world. People are now moving on. And you dipshits claim that because of some “Freedom Fighters” in Canada, who decided to “stand up for their rights” at 11:59pm pandemic time, when the virus was already loosening its grip on the world, are responsible for the mandates being removed???
Dumb all over.
Hmmn, … I think we all (most?) here on this forum recognize tyranny when we see it: … Mr. Socks*) and his encourage. For sure, …
Canadians in general, however, are submissive bunch, … quite divided. Example:
Two-thirds of Canadians support use of Emergencies Act and want Freedom Convoy cleared out: poll
But at the same time, 54 per cent of Canadians say they are ‘ashamed’ of how politicians have let the Freedom Convoy protests get out of hand… another one:
Nearly Half (46%) of Canadians Say they “May Not Agree with Everything” Trucker Convoy Says or Does, But …
Snip:
[…]The Prime Minister so far has refused to meet with the leaders of the movement, and Canadians are divided on whether this is the right move or not. Half (53%) agree (29% strongly/24% somewhat) that the Prime Minister is right to refuse to meet with the truck protestors to hear their grievances, while the other half (47%) of Canadians disagrees (26% strongly/21% somewhat) that this is the right decision. Liberal voters (81%) are most aligned on this approach, while fewer supporters of the NDP (57%), Bloc (49%) or Conservative (31%) parties endorse this decision.
https://www.ipsos.com/en-ca/news-polls/nearly-half-say-they-may-not-agree-with-trucker-convoy
… and there is also stuff like this ( opinion bit):
Please Advise! Now Musk Prefers Hitler to Trudeau?
And what does Tucker Carlson mean by ‘Canadian-style tyranny’? Trying to keep up!Snip:
I think we all recognize tyranny when we see it. The Toronto Maple Leafs come to Vancouver on a Saturday night and suddenly the game time shifts from 7 p.m. to 4 p.m. so those precious Torontonians won’t have to stay up late to watch their beloved Buds on Hockey Night in Canada. That, my friends, is tyranny.[…]
Anyway, … long weekend in Canada this weekend, … we shall see if support for truckers will swell over the weekend as during weekends past. That will be tellin’…
… fwiw,
F.S.
*) Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s socks are seen during a session at the Economic Forum annual meeting on Jan. 25, 2018 in Davos, Switzerland. GETTY IMAGES
https://smartcdn.gprod.postmedia.digital/torontosun/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/socks.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=944&h=708&type=webpDr. Robert Malone. Probably true in more countries than just the US.:
“There are now two political parties in the USA but they are not the Republicans and the Democrats. They are the Globalist party of Davos/WEF and team USA. And team Davos does not respect the US Constitution. At a minimum they have dual citizenship – USA and Davos/WEF, and their allegiance is to their leader Klaus Schwab. Not to the US Constitution. And that is the problem that is at the root of all of this COVID madness.”
You’re totally off the mark about Doc and what he wrote about Peterson, and obviously didn’t even understand what he wrote. Re-read it, understand what he wrote, and then apologize to Doc.
AND IN GENERAL it would do everyone around here a lot of good to cut back on worshipping Sacred Cows. Peterson and Kunstler pull all four legs of their trousers on, one leg at a time. Their pronouncements and public persona are not sacred.
How’s this for some more mixed metaphor: It is foolish to run off half-cocked without first ensuring that your powder is dry, and checking your load before taking pot shots when you couldn’t hit the side of a barn. Especially you, Boz. You know better.
Ah. Isn’t that convenient. So parliament’s vote on the legality of the Emergency invokement will be held after “one week to flatten” the curve of protests.
(Hrm. Is “invokement” a word? It makes sense, but isn’t in the iPad’s dictionary. Oh, well. It is understood. If Shakespeare could make up words, why not the rest of us?)
“I ain’t talkin smack, Jack, ( sorry, sorry, sorry . . . I just couldn’t resist) I’m just sayin’ like it is.”
Regarding your claim that Kunstler has covertly sold out regarding the truth about vakzines and covidiocy, no you haven’t. You might get a jury to hang him based on the data is charges were pressed, but the judicial process is just slightly better than its predecessor: trial by ordeal.
Let me know what Kunstler says, or doesn’t say to you about the topic after you’ve addressed him. Until then you’re just another guy hollering Respect the Authoritah of my Belief! That doesn’t seem like the DBS I know.
I hope you don’t respond with another evidence free damnation of JK per your personal feelings about him. Provide some data or be relegated to opinionated crank status in this matter.
If you back-pedal any harder you’re gong to pull a tendon.
“You’re totally off the mark about Doc and what he wrote about Peterson, and obviously didn’t even understand what he wrote. Re-read it, understand what he wrote, and then apologize to Doc.”
Nah. I heard every word JP said, and I vehemently disagree. I wrote a transcription, and may do it again just now since my head’s still not up for crafting imaginary worlds in words.
Boscohorowitz said: “Well, I transcribed Jordan Peterson’s 2:30 video with arthritic fingers reeling from a fresh parrot bite, edited one eentsy thing, and it’s gone forever.. I’ll do it again when my fingers aren’t so sore (I have a book to write now and need them for that), but I’ll do it again later to support what I say to Doc Day now regarding his claim that JP is urging people to quit and go home: NO.HE.ISN’T. If you diagnosed patients with the level of attention by which you’ve ‘diagnosed’ JP as a traitor, you’d be drowning in malpractice lawsuits, Doc.
You’re talking unsubstantiated smack, Doc. Slinging your own shit and blaming the mess on others.”I had previously said:
“Jordan Peterson: He advised Canadian protesters to go home with things as they now stand, before getting arrested, and let the political machine work in their behalf, since they have made their point.
This may be helpful advice for the faint-of-heart, but anybody at the protests already got all the memos.
I would not look at second order effects right now. The first order effect is to support the tyranny by reducing opposition numbers on the ground.”Did I ascribe intent to defraud to Jordan? Did I “talk smack”?
Sorry your fingers “got blisters on ’em”, Amigo.
I didn’t do it.@”Deflationista”: As observed by D. Benton Smith, You’re caught in a serious narrative-riptide.
Are “you” ok? I address the human comonent, but I know you may be constrained in what you are permited to write.
I speak to YOU, not “deflationista”.
You are alive.
🙂you erroneously put the following words in my mouth, “Regarding your claim that Kunstler has covertly sold out . . . etc.”
I did not say that, and I did not imply that either. The leap to conclusion is yours alone.You then imperiously demanded , “Let me know what Kunstler says, or doesn’t say to you about the topic after you’ve addressed him.”
What the hell is wrong with you today? You know damn well you can’t COMMAND me to do anything, so why even say it? You can pick a fight better than that.And in conclusion . . .
If James Howard Kunstler knows something that I don’t know (and he probably does) then I invite him to spell it out. He wrote out loud, “Stand by, now, to find out who has been behind all this deadly mischief.” Okay, Jim, I’m standing by. Who is it?
Like I said before, put up or shut up.figmund: read the 1700+ comments below the “poll’ cited in the national post.
i’d say that 1643/1700 does not equal 66% support.
fake media, fake government run on fake polls.
I don’t make a habit of getting medical advice from a comedian nor do I go to one for detailed financial advice, I go to my accountant for that (duh). Fill in the blanket for what you don’t go to a performer, comedian or writer for advice about.
Kunstler is a performer/writer, his gig is entertainment. Don’t expect more than that. Quit overthinking his blog posts. I go for satire, irony, tongue in cheeky, some stage melodrama, a touch of Clarence Darrow, a dash of Mark Twain, maybe even a smidgen of Mae West, and occasionally an iota of Yogi Berra.
Yogi Berra
“You can observe a lot by just watching.”His latest post, The Unmasking, kind of like hoping that Super Heroes are real. We all like to dream.
wormtongue: take thy lies and fetid breathings and have the courage to tell them to milo’s mother.
https://nomoresilence.world/pfizer-biontech/milo-edberg-aged-6-pfizer-severe-adverse-reaction/
no shame. no honour.
Don’t even apologize. Sometimes friends just have to let their friends be assholes.
But I wouldn’t mind arguing some more. Sparring with (nearly) (wannabe) equals is kind of fun in a twisted sort of way, and not-too-innocent by-standers can lay bets and yell “Fight! Fight! Hit him! Hit him ! ” like back in the old school yard days.
After opening remarks summarizing what JP sees as the protest’s major accomplishments, he says:
“You’re now faced with a difficult choice which is what are your criteria for satisfaction? You need to determine that and so that you can negotiate with the necessary people. You’re also faced with the danger at the moment now, which is that as the political process bends in the direction that you’ve insisted upon so rightly in my estimation, more and more of you who are most reasonable* are going to pack up and leave or decide that this is done sometime over the next week or so, a couple of weeks, that’s obviously up to you but there’ll be a remnant that’s much more committed in some sense to more extreme goals and that’s going to be something very difficult to manage. I’d like to commend all of you for your diligence and work on accomplishing what you have accomplished under trying conditions and also for keeping your heads in a way that’s actually being a model for the entire world. The fact that you’ve been remain peaceful and you haven’t taken the bait, you haven’t responded with violence to quite remarkable denigration and provocation… that’s a sign of tremendous discipline and care. It’s going to get more difficult to maintain as this goes along. So I hope that you’re all in this position to allow a sufficient victory to be sufficient. To move forward without rancor, to be grateful for the effect that you’ve already had and the support that you’ve received, and to move forward to a normative peace and the re-establishment of our country’s economy and our psychological and social well-being. So…”
Please show me the ‘pack up and go home/give it up’ message in this. He is neither exhorting nor denouncing. He’s sympathizing, applauding, and offering his fwiw opinions on how to deal with the current situation.
Some of these people HAVE to go home, you know. They have things called lives, I would imagine. But maybe Canadians don’t have lives?????
(*most reasonable. This is the only aspect where I can even remotely infer, if only slightly, that JP is trying to influence people to do less than their best, and that’s a helluva stretch, since the man is speaking from, at most, notes, primarily from his heart, and we all have difficulty using words to say precisely what we mean even when writing, reviewing, and editing content as we do here.)
I don’t see anyone here working to organize a trucker protest, btw. We’re just busy judging the Ottawa thing and commentators and gov officials actually involved in what we’re gawking at. Those who will, do. Those who don’t, judge. Forever and whatever amen.
Incidentally, some recent events in JP’s life:“In April 2019, his prescribed dosage of clonazepam was increased to deal with anxiety he was experiencing as a result of his wife’s cancer diagnosis.[192][193][194] Starting several months later, he made various attempts to lessen his intake or stop taking the drug completely,[190] but experienced “horrific” benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome.[195][196][192] According to his daughter, Peterson and his family were unable to find doctors in North America who were willing to accommodate their treatment desires, so in January 2020, Peterson, his daughter and her husband flew to Moscow, Russia for treatment.[197] Doctors there diagnosed Peterson with pneumonia in both lungs upon arrival, and he was put into a medically induced coma for eight days. Peterson spent four weeks in the intensive care unit, during which time he allegedly exhibited a temporary loss of motor skills.[192][198]”
We do know that no one is going to fix things FOR us, right? Not someone you elect, not some brave truckers, not… your life is yours alone.
And that’s humanity: alone together. But alone. Even in a lifelong marriage of deep devotion and love: alone.
This empty room it fills my mind
Freedom it leaves me so confined
Every single bone has cracked
What in this life, you can’t turn back
I don’t want to live
I don’t want to live here alone, alone
As these words part with my tounge
I question why they even sung
I promise but I lie
I don’t even know myself inside
I don’t wanna be
I don’t wanna be here alone, alone
Today and tommorow have become one
Every single thing has become undone
Human nature is a beast
What ive done the most, to show i have the least
Please don’t leave me here
Please don’t leave me here
Don’t you leave me alone, alone
Alone, aloneOn that Jordan Peterson thinggie, …“let the political machine work” – Dr. Day:
… the political machine Peterson meant is this => https://youtu.be/wTBxceB9xgU
Specifically, the opposition party: https://www.conservative.ca/, … join them, work with them!
Anyway, … this is just 2/100s of one Canadian Loonie worth of opinion from me. Others may, or may not agree.
Best,
F.S.
Well, it’s happening:
Police in Ottawa are arresting Freedom Convoy protesters right now. pic.twitter.com/u4PO5NNK5G
— Marie Oakes (@TheMarieOakes) February 18, 2022
I’ll point out something, Doc Day. Here in USA, you see Tulsi Gabbard as the Big WoMan who might take control through biz as usual: voting booths, campaigns, etc.
You expect Canada, however, to experience a standoff,
possiblyprobably bloody, for their change to occur.I think the world of you, per the Injun nickname I gave you. I hold place high expectations for people I think the world of. Knowing they’re no more perfect than me, I take them to task when I feel they’re betraying themselves or the ideals they live by.
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“Others may, or may not agree.”
Sorry, Figmund, but I insist you tell me what to believe. 😉
Cliff Notes:
“You’re now faced with a difficult choice which is what are your criteria for satisfaction? You need to determine that and so that you can negotiate with the necessary people.”
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“So I hope that you’re all in this position to allow a sufficient victory to be sufficient.”
He is not saying that where things stand are or aren’t sufficient. He says, find your criteria, accept it, and live with it. Not everyone has it in them to stay in the freezing cold forever under constant threat of gubmint shenanigans, likely to be followed by major confrontation/arrest/assault.
Um, do you?
8th grade. Leonard Samczyck, our flaming queen, does his over-the-top Hendrix doing Wild Thing impersonation, loud silk clothes and scarves, etc.
We 8th graders jeered him as a faggot. Ridiculed him in front of everyone.
Danny Skurbic, the coolest guy in 8th grade, leader of the pack, and mos def NOT a bully, anything but, just a naturally brave guy we looked up to, gets up in front of us and berates us fiercely:
“Let’s see you get up there and do something, you little chickens!”
I was blessed to have Danny as my grade-school Coolest Guy role model idol.
He became depressed in high school: stayed home eating, watching soap operas, etc, around the time I de facto dropped out although I technically couldn’t get free until day 1 of senior year, when I was big enough, so to speak, to Just Say No. I wish I’d looked him up. I think he was dealing with a similar alienation as I was: when did everyone become pod people?
@Boscohorowitz: Again, I did not mean to bash anybody, just observed the first-order effects of taking advice which I interpreted as “declare victory and get out before things get nasty on you”.
You said, and I think you answered it right here:
” It’s going to get more difficult to maintain as this goes along. So I hope that you’re all in this position to allow a sufficient victory to be sufficient. To move forward without rancor, to be grateful for the effect that you’ve already had and the support that you’ve received, and to move forward to a normative peace and the re-establishment of our country’s economy and our psychological and social well-being. So…”Please show me the ‘pack up and go home/give it up’ message in this.”
Also @Boscohorowitz: When I stated that the ticket of Trump/Gabbard winning would signify victory over the current globalist PTB, I meant that they would have already failed to prevent it, and it would be a flag of opposition mounted upon their hill.
People have feet of clay and change and stuff, but Tulsi appears to me, over 11 years of watching, to have what it takes to be an American Putin.
YMMV. that’s just my view, and she has a twinkle of Lavrov in her, too.I think many of us will agree that the main thing that the trucker protest accomplished is that it made opposing the covidian cult’s authoritarian agenda into a real thing with a base of support in the population, and not just the province of Confederate flag-waving militia-types and assorted very marginal political types. That’s exactly why you will see the covid cult try to cling very desperately to the idea that these protestors were alt-righters and right-wing reactionaries. They have to keep the perceptual curtain draped over the reality that the covid cultists are the real authoritarians, and that the agenda driving them has very little to do with public health.
@Boscohorowitz: Your 8th grade Hendric impersonation story reminded me of when Stevie ray Vaughan played our co-op halooween party on a stage I had built. I didn’t know who he was, but he was dressed as Hendrix before the party: “Cool Hendrix costume, Man”, quoth I. “Thanks Man, he replied”. Later I found out who he was. He channeled Hendrix, played the guitar (well) with his teeth and behind his back.
Google images says Pinterest has a picture from that party
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/07/6d/6a/076d6a2fdc81e7b0836c71f834c13f63.jpgBack to “our” regularly scheduled de-programming:
https://www.johndayblog.com/2022/02/stand-and-smile.html
Our economic life support system’s check-engine-light has been on for about two and a half years now. A whole slew of codes come up on the diagnostic port.
The usual mechanic says we need to sign the title over to him before he can fix it and give us the keys back.
We are dubious. We have gone to the Auto Zone and gotten the printouts of all the diagnostic codes. We’re considering our options. It still runs poorly, but sports lapsed inspection and registration stickers, so we’re keeping a low profile.Rulers govern with the consent of the governed, which consent is lapsing in bits and pieces, for non-performance, for repeatedly violating the “social contract”.
Politicians in “western democracies” usually serve the owners by talking the people into doing what the owners want.
There is usually some carrot for the people, but lately it is all-stick, no-carrot and a future which is illuminated by the promise to use the stick on those who don’t go along with the good donkeys.Those “Others” are making all the problems. Donkeys are fitted with blinders and are not permitted to converse about insurrection on social-media.
A bunch of donkeys are milling about in Canada without blinders, presenting an existential threat to the political-economic-life-support-system. They have stopped pulling their donkey carts. People will starve and freeze if the donkeys don’t get their blinders back on and start pulling those carts again, PRONTO!
Measures are being taken. Donkeys have been given written notice in their inflatable bouncy-castles. Their bank accounts and donkey-cart insurance cancellations are proceeding. Donkeys will starve first. Certainly, nobody wants that? Donkeys are still braying in the streets. You just can’t talk to donkeys. It’s not worth trying. The owners need those carrots themselves. It’s stick or nothing, Donkeys!Some people are trying to bring some little carrots to the donkeys, but that’s got to be stopped.
People and donkeys do not a life-support-system make. The owners are the critical ingredient.
You understand that, right?What if the people and the donkeys refuse to make the life-support-system work?
Everybody, including donkeys will die. It’s happened before, repeatedly.
You get it, right?This is a critical point in time. The life support system is failing as supply lines are slowed and become hit-or-miss, intermittent.
The worst of the realization has not yet hit, but the mail is late, regular parts are on back-order for months, and there are no canned black olives at the grocery store.
Whatever the donkeys and people do now, the crumbling of the political-economy will continue, until…?
What happened last time? Oh, yeah, World War-2.Well, that’s off the list of options now…
It’s off the list, right?The owners need all of us people and donkeys to get back to the creaky carts and sparse stalls forever, no-questions-asked, or we will starve and freeze sooner, rather than later. We’ve always been able to trust them before, so we need to trust them now and in perpetuity. Implanting a remote-controlled kill switch is just an inviolable sign of our complete trust in our elected leaders and the important interests which they serve.
For people bringing carrots and donkeys playing hooky, the choices are to comply immediately and get a lighter-whipping, to riot in the streets and get killed because it’s absolutely necessary as a last resort, or to stand there and smile and be pleasant and present and unmoving, and just keep doing that, because there are really not enough resources to arrest that many donkeys and people, and they cannot, apparently be recruited from the ranks of other donkeys and other people.
Seriously, this has got to stop.Donkeys and people have never, ever been able to come up with new economic solutions, ever, all of the times that this has happened in the past. It has always been to beneficent owners and their loyal elected representatives who have solved the life-support problems, and they will do it again, if we will only give them our unquestioning and eternal support; 110%, just like in football.
If we don’t get back in line right away, our western political economy will pass a point of no-return (if it hasn’t already) and the fault will be completely our own. We will have nobody but ourselves to blame; nobody but ourselves upon whom to rely for food, water, fuel and bouncy-castles.
We’ll all be dead in five years. Mark my words!That being said, I have a few carrots growing, and I planted some bush beans and tomato seeds yesterday, and I’m fixing up the inside of the homestead addition, which will be a good gathering place, sort of like The Restaurant at the End of the Universe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Restaurant_at_the_End_of_the_Universe
Cat McGuire in New York and environs sends this article she wrote last weekend as she and some other people enjoyed taking supplies to Canadian truckers at the border. Cat is a real person, who even came and visited our Austin garden and had dinner a couple of times. Cat does things. Cat rides a bike, too.
Morgan said, “It was so exciting that we actually were boots-on-the-ground support for Canada’s freedom fighters. They have been such a personal inspiration to me that I galvanized everyone I know to get on board and support them.” She added, “Our two convoys brought a variety of supplies to the border that the Canadians specifically recommended to bring such as hand warmers, water, snacks, gas cards, hats, washer fluid, gloves, and blankets.” …
It could not be confirmed at this time, but one of the local rally organizers informed the CTSA team that New York Governor Kathy Hochul had established a command control center in Buffalo and was in Buffalo herself the weekend of the rally.Cat is from 1:06 -1:37 in this Fox News story. How come it’s all right-wing sources for lifelong liberals like Cat these days?
“Strange days indeed”.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6297735193001#sp=show-clipsThe People Killing Humanity, a long list of sometimes-obscure, as well as known names, with biographical details about those human beings financially driving the COVID-Pandemic control narrative from before-it-happened, to today. Thanks Oroboros.
@those-darned-kids #101925 fake media, fake government run on fake polls.
———————————-Yes. But the commentariat at the end of any article is not exactly reflective of reality either, since only a specific group is attracted to any specific article, specific topic.
Anyway, … another indicator: RealCanadianSuperstore: … my son a manager there: the number of bitches in his stores virtually skyrocketed, primarily because of shortages of stuff. Empty shelves. Shoppers there – most of them – openly curse at phlunkin’ truckers!
fwiw,
F.S.
“People have feet of clay and change and stuff, but Tulsi appears to me, over 11 years of watching, to have what it takes to be an American Putin. YMMV. that’s just my view, and she has a twinkle of Lavrov in her, too.”
I like her too, and I’m not at all arguing that it can’t happen or that she doesn’t have the stuff. I’d LOVE to see that happen, although I have no emotional energy to invest in that prospect. I was just pointing out your seeming willingness (correct me if I’m wrong) to “let the process work” (and wait until 2024) but Canada needs to stand their ground and go 1776 NOW.
This may be a mere messaging issue, but I read pretty carefully, and that is what I infer from your words.
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” Again, I did not mean to bash anybody”
You called the guy a fuckin traitor, Doc. If that’s not bashing, then who needs baseball bats?
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Also, I’ll repeat my Cliff Notes:
Jp said:
“You’re now faced with a difficult choice which is what are your criteria for satisfaction? You need to determine that and so that you can negotiate with the necessary people.”
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And then he said:
“So I hope that you’re all in this position to allow a sufficient victory to be sufficient.”
He is not saying that where things stand are or aren’t sufficient. He says, find your criteria, accept it, and live with it. Not everyone has it in them to stay in the freezing cold forever under constant threat of gubmint shenanigans, likely to be followed by major confrontation/arrest/assault.
Um, do you?
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Calling someone a Trudeau turd is fighting language, Doc, and good or bad, JP is an actual person not a hallucination on the magic screen (that sounds more like Joe Biden;) ). You have shown no factual basis to slander him so, and have not spoken otherwise yet that I saw, other than to claim that calling someone a Trudeau turd is not a mortal insult of the kind that duels were fought over not too long ago.
What an appalling centralization of power now exists. A tiny tiny tiny cohort simply voices orders outlawing a wide swath of human activities that are essential to life, and the machinery of this so-called civilization makes it so. They ordered the creation, implementation and enforcement of mandatory self harm using their made-to-order poison, and our society as a whole continues to pay them to do so, under the protection of armed “law enforcement.” Just astounding.
Somethings got to give, and so it will.
“Shoppers there – most of them – openly curse at phlunkin’ truckers!”
THer4e was a bus driver strike in the Bay Area around 2015-16. A woman I knew on FB, actual former wife of the guy who wrote the Furry Freak Brothers (!!!), a dyed-in-the-silk/wool progressive and Professionally Compassionate, weeps for all the right causes, etc., said, “I understand they want to strike, but how am I supposed to work. Can’t they do it any other way?”
But she’d quote Howard Zinn on the glories of the labor movement and unionism, yadi ya. Great stuff, just not on her time, thank you.
Later, when she was All Hillary ’16, Bernie can’t win, We Need A Woman!, and would not hear a word about Hillary’s myriad war crimes and such, she got super-huffy and said, “I wont have you say I’m morally wrong here.”
It was unquestionable. What she did didn’t matter; what she thought and said was all, and please don’t bother her with contradictions among those two actions. Those thoughts and words were of course supported, yea crafted, by various consensus groups who gave her approval for agreeing with them and joined her in looking down on those wretched deplorables who are of course so wrong and really are the problem.
@Boscohorowitz: I’m not advocating letting political process work in the US, such-as-it-is. It’s broken.
That’s where we have to do things, seemingly little survivalisty things. If a Trump/Gabbard ticked were elected, and the election sanctioned, we would be in a different world already. I’m not predicting it.I’m not calling Jordan Peterson any names, just observing what the immediate of people following his gentle advice would be to the current dynamic class-war power struggle. Going home now and letting the politicians take up your charter-rights cause (when the house of commons opens again) would deflate the power of the messages, which is now in the “then they fight you” stage of progression.
I get that he had a lot of anxiety and got strung out on clonazepam. That is a really hard issue, “long-term-benzodiazepine-withdrawal-syndrome”. I have dealt with it for decades. You meet the whole family repeatedly for your sincere efforts. He may just be considering how sick he would feel getting shoved to the ground face down and manacled with zip-ties.
I don’t know. I don’t know him at all.
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