Debt Rattle February 23 2020
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Jack Delano Spectators at annual barrel rolling contest in Presque Isle, Maine 1940 • COVID19 Cases Outside China Go Exponential (ZH) • Million
[See the full post at: Debt Rattle February 23 2020]Jack Delano Spectators at annual barrel rolling contest in Presque Isle, Maine 1940
Their faces are interesting in their expressions…towards the camera…
I love that photograph. Why are you taking a picture of us, and not the event? The dog is my favorite. Love the event itself: barrel rolling. Location, location: Presque Isle is 5 miles from Canada, and darn cold in winter.
Pretty useless around here. With 1 Billion people under quarantine, 33 countries and 4 continents involved, involved, a death rate of 3-10%, even normal, conscious people like Tim Pool say, “You know, we might want to not be ashamed to do something, sometime, you know, in the future. They’re thinking about maybe calling this an ‘epidemic’. It might get serious someday, who knows?” Clue phone: 1 BILLION people? Hello, hello…?
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Yeah, if we don’t look out, this might turn into something, you know, dangerous, like a thing we might want to do something about and s—t. You know who isn’t serious? You guys. They are not serious people. They are incapable of serious thoughts and actions. They are not adults. The only upside here is that at least they will (mostly) die with the rest of us. The downside is, it’s THEIR inability to be serious, logical, to read words like “40 day quarantine” with their little eyes and have them land on their brain like any 10-year-old can is the CAUSE of the problem. But that’s #Facts. Must be resisted at all costs, even if you die of it.
And you thought I was lying, exaggerating. Sadly no, if all the wars and thousands of deaths, slave markets, child rape swaps, and endless impoverishment of virtually everyone didn’t clue you in.
Next part: nobody is in the least mad about it. They’re not going to do anything about any of the seven levels of h—l they’ve intentionally put upon you, for your own family soon dying. Applause! They finally found a war that culls 5% of the planet’s poor in a way we can all get behind! #Winning! Just as they’ve written continuously for 50 years, and Oops!, an accident.
“coronavirus crisis could slice a full percentage point off growth this year”
Not serious.
“China’s car market is likely to see sales slide more than 10 per cent”
Not serious.
“14 Americans who tested positive had been put on a plane with healthy passengers,”
Not serious.
“The South Korean government lodged a complaint with Israel over its abrupt entry ban against South Koreans”
Not serious.
“US Says Russia Behind Coronavirus Disinformation Campaign (G.)”
Never serious.
And I’ll tell you here, no American, not even medical people are in the least serious about it either. They’re all going to smack into the medical/economic brick wall and put on their surprised face and say, “Who’d a thunk? Nobody coulda knowd.” except for literally everyone, and a million preppers since the 90’s who told you about police militarization, the fake war, the housing crash, the tech bubble, the patriot act, and literally everything else that’s happened since then. I’d tell you 3 years ago when they started the idiotic, irrational charge into “driverless cars” and “home drone deliveries” “door-front pickup” that mostly can’t be done and make not a lick of sense in God’s green earth except to confront quarantines we didn’t (yet) have. Nobody saw that with me? I’m not even smart. Nope, medical people, being ‘experts’ are going to do nothing, plan nothing, change nothing, stock nothing. Okay, that’s not fair, they’re smart people: 5% of them will try to do something and be shut down by taffy and red tape by the other 95%. Tell me if in your experience I’ve got this right, Dr. D.
given regular asymptomatic transmission and frequent false negative test results the cdc (or your local govt health agency) should immediately advise healthcare/grid/refinery/law enforcement/emergency services to avoid all public gatherings and adopt stringent hygiene protocols.
if they wait until a local covid outbreak has developed it will be too late. the time to protect these critical people is now.
You are correct, Dr. D.
Harkens back to the sad musings of my Hungarian great grandfather, Laszlo, whose younger brother was turned away at Ellis Island, refused entry by immigration officials because he was “too sick”. Repatriated to Hungary I suppose and never seen by family in America again.
And Laszlo’s first daughter, a toddler age 2, died in 1919 during the middle of Spanish Flu epidemic. He blamed himself for “bringing the flu home” from the bar he frequented at the end of his shift underground in a 3.5 foot coal seam. Somehow the health authorities restrictions on public movement made it to his small mining town of 75 people and only served to cement his sense of guilt. We’ve made substantial progress in curbing the social stigma associated with infectious disease.
So, yeah Dr. D, our peers are in it the money. If not for money, they/we fear losing their/outr jobs in the At Will workplace to Leadership who don’t have a clue that bacterial super-infection associated with viral pneumonia is a likely causative factor for the high death rate.
But war, social upheaval and panic always help…..
OK, an update. I am still alive, a month later
(I am 85% sure that I have had nCoV, from something
assembled in guangdong beginning of year, quickly shipped)
So, my guess is that the 9 days viability when dark & cool should be +50%)
The 1st 2 weeks rather unpleasant, much sleep helps
The pneumonia was only minor, I was watching like a hawk,
I do have animal antibiotics if it seemed needed (was not)
Bacterial pneumonia added would be a killer
(since China is rather dirty, I suspect this is a factor there,
_I_ got bacterial pneumonia there (near wuhan actually) 9 yrs ago)
I did take vitamin C & D, I think D (in adequate dose)
will cut mortality to 1/2. Also black elderberry may be helpful,
and iodine, maybe selenium(carefully, don’t overdose Se)
When phlegm started coming up, well it tasted quite odd,
I never have tasted anything like that (only slightly ickky)
Not so much fevers, more chills
Myself* was already adequate with D, so only increased 5000 iu
Most should take 10,000 iu or if sure deficient 20K for a week
So, better get 2 bottle/person if it is usual 1000 iu pills
(* a few yrs ago, I realized that more calcium (4+) would keep
foot and hand (less) cramps away, if I didn’t add D
I would have to double that, more of a problem in late winter,
for obvious reasons)
The horse has left the barn, probably nearly everyone will get it
I have my doubts that it could have been stopped by any effort,
but the blatant incompetence made it inevitable
I also find it ironic that for both ccp AND usa add 2 zeros to the numbers
So the CDC kicked the can down the road for a whole month, to save us panic,
at the cost of at least 1/2 of their credibility,, WHAT A DEAL
Most fortunate for ccp that children are little affected,
nothing more fierce than a mother with sick child and someone to blametruth
https://www.crosstex.com/sites/default/files/public/educational-resources/products-literature/guide20to20face20mask20selection20and20use20-202017.pdf
Guide to Face Mask Selection and Use“virus control measures that include disinfecting, giving employees at least two masks a day, making temperature checks, and having their plans approved by local officials. There is already a gap between regulation and reality, however. “We started today, but the boss only gave us one mask when we all know he’s supposed to give out two,” said one 52-year-old woman employed at a Shenzhen factory.”
the fact that the coronavirus has proved contagious in the early days of infection when patients have few symptoms, making it hard to identify carriers as clusters spread. Yet China cannot afford for its factories to sit idle, or its restaurants and shops to stay empty indefinitely.
—–The president became “furious” with senior advisers after learning the 14 Americans who tested positive had been put on a plane with healthy passengers, according to The Washington Post.
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A GOV TRUTH PATROL
(If the info that you got is different than our info then it cannot be true.)
https://www.state.gov/bureaus-offices/under-secretary-for-public-diplomacy-and-public-affairs/global-engagement-center/
Our Mission
To direct, lead, synchronize, integrate, and coordinate efforts of the Federal Government to recognize, understand, expose, and counter foreign state and foreign non-state propaganda and disinformation efforts aimed at undermining or influencing the policies, security, or stability of the United States and its allies and partner nations. -Section 1287 of FY17 NDAA (as amended by the FY19 NDAA)” messages about the coronavirus, according to a report prepared for the state department’s Global Engagement Center and seen by the AFP. ( I could not find that report)
The accounts are run by humans, not bots, and post at similar times in English, Spanish, Italian, German and French. They can be linked back to Russian proxies, or carry messages similar to Russian-backed outlets such as RT and Sputnik, the report said.”
——Tell me if in your experience I’ve got this right, Dr. D.
Did your info come from Global Engagement Center? /sItaly cases rise to 321, Iran deaths rose to 8. It’s becoming hard to keep track. With cases spreading all over the world, the numbers come in spread as well
Total cases are now 78,966 from the 78,866 above
Deaths are 2,469 from 2,464@wdt
” …. The horse has left the barn,”Dr. cannot help. Pharm. cannot help. Spraying the street with XXX doesn’t help.
Therefore, your recommended purchases will only help the seller and could be harmful if not used properly.Dr. D
I’d tell you 3 years ago when they started the idiotic, irrational charge into “driverless cars” and “home drone deliveries” “door-front pickup” that mostly can’t be done and make not a lick of sense in God’s green earth except to confront quarantines we didn’t (yet) have.
Not sure about this as a business model. One of the first effects of quarantines will be loss of income and therefore spending power. Already a major issue in China.
KEEP WATCHING – TIME WILL TELL IF IT WORKS
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/crazy-amount-requests-private-jet-demand-soars-elites-flee-asia-amid-pandemic
“Crazy Amount Of Requests:” Private Jet Demand Soars As Elites Flee Asia Amid Pandemic
private jet flights between Hong Kong to Australia and North America soared in January by 214% compared with a year ago.
The jump in private jet flights suggests a mass exodus of business elites and their and their families from China, Hong Kong, and surrounding areas, who are getting the hell out of a dodge as the virus outbreak worsens.Ilargi: “…mortality rate for closed cases is still 10%!“
That 10% is the worldwide rate. I haven’t seen what the rate is outside of China, where there are still relatively few cases per country, and the healthcare systems aren’t overloaded yet. So I did the simple math and got this result:
Mortality rate for closed cases (outside of China) = 9%
Interesting too, Doc. Makes you wonder what the 2% or so numbers are based on.
Then again, cases we see so far may well be those that are so advanced they can no longer be denied. Then then again, how many Americans and Europeans have died of pneumonia that were in fact carriers?
About those cases. What are the odds that a family doctor in the US or Britain thinks of COVID19 when someone comes in with a cough? Northern Italy woke up and went from 3 to 321 cases in 3 days. Why would that not be repeated in other countries? And if a family doctor thinks of COVID19 at all, would they have a test-kit?
I was reading the soccer team of Barcelona have a game in Naples this week, and Italy has a whole list of demands for their medical staff. Check temperature, etc etc. Naples is 500 miles from Milan. But what about the fans who travel to away games? Will they check all those thousands of them as well? Haven’t read anything on that yet.
I think Tyler is very right, as tragic and stupid as it sounds:
The Tokyo Olympics are the major barometer right now. If they get cancelled, then the world will know: This outbreak is out of control.
The Olympics are 5 months away. The IOC is looking at alternative cities as we speak of course, but their problem is they can’t guarantee any city will be free of COVID19 in July.
Meanwhile, cases in Japan tripled in a week, and they’re not counting the people who walked into the country straight off the Diamond Princess after one or even zero tests.
” if a family doctor thinks of COVID19 at all, would they have a test-kit?”
Yes, but only in 3 states.Don’t forget, americans who don’t have insurance and cannot get free doctor visits will not go see a doctor for a sore throat and a cough. They will go when they think that they have pneumonia that can be treated by prescription medicine from a doctor.
Lets not forget that most employers do not pay an employee who does not show up for work. USA Employers do not believe in sharing the wealth to non – workers.>Therefore, your recommended purchases will only help the seller
You must know very little about nutrition
All that I mentioned will improve immune response,
unless the person is ALREADY adequate in them
(and adequate is uncommon)
Yes, an overdose of Se is quite toxic, don’t overdose
You can overdose vitamin D, eat a polar bear liver
The doses I recommended are not an overdose,
literally could save thousands, I would estimate 1-2% total pop
And BTW others also recommend this
But few will do, stupidity is it’s own reward
And Doctors don’t believe in nutrition, it’s too hard, competiton
So you have to do this on your own, do several web searches,
throw away top and bottom, use your headKEEP WATCHING – TIME WILL TELL IF THE VIRUS CAN TRAVEL BY PRIVATE JETS
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/23/politics/trump-india-visit/index.html
In India, Trump aims for crowds and strategic friendship
Kevin Liptak-Profile-Image
By Kevin Liptak
Trump has proclaimed 7 to 10 million people will come to watch him as he arrives for his first visit to India on Monday and speaks from Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s hometown Ahmedabad.On a lighter note (about the picture): Saddle shoes!
I AM MAKING THIS UP :
In what could be a brilliant move for oligarchic presidential candidate Bloomberg, he has decided to redirect some of his incalculable wealth to start manufacturing antibiotics and other medical necessities and paraphernalia here in the United States. Not to be outdone, oligarchic incumbent Trump says he will go forth and do likewise, and his stuff will be beautiful and PERFECT.
One can dream, right?Do you think that after the virus has run it course and the 45 million uninsured not to mention the millions of underinsured that do not seek medical treatment and become carriers, spread the virus far and wide even the republicans will support medicare for all.
Russian ‘Disinformation’
The US is upset that some think they created the virus.
Is it plausible?
One report claims that the US spent 100 billion dollars on bio-warfare and that they have worked with bat viruses. It is racially targeted in that it is most deadly to the Chinese [and Japanese]. What horrors have these people created? It is pretty certain they will have created COVID-19 type viruses.
Anyone who can develop similar viruses, will. Here’s a list of labs that can. The US has 13 BSL-4 labs. Britain has 8. China has one, and it’s in Wuhan. Racially targeted? Perhaps. But this ACE2- containing virus is now killing white Italians. Maybe China is chosen because it’s the best place to start a pandemic. Lots of people in close contact. Then again, it could well be an accidental escape.
Let’s not forget that most employers do not pay an employee who does not show up for work.
Yes, and many years ago the high-tech industry went from a “sick day” benefits model to a “PTO” (Paid Time Off) model, effectively lumping both sick time and vacation days together. What effect did that have? Well, who wants to waste that time off when you’re sick with the flu during the winter when you can save it all for those sunny days of summer? Naturally, we came in sick so that we could enjoy those days off when we were healthy.
And now we’re finding patients can go 27 days without showing symptoms.
* * *
” …. The horse has left the barn,”Will the new flu replace the old flu.
YOU CANNOT DIE MORE THAN ONCE.“…. in two months China (INSERT: + USA) will face a financial, economic and social cataclysm the likes of which it has never seen in its modern history.”
Dr D’s rant captures the current surreal zeitgeist of Covid-19.
I have longed for a quintessential term to describe the current ‘brain trust’ of each and every country on earth. Not bureaucrat, not nomenklatura, something closer to a mindboggling lack of common sense.
World ‘leaders’ aren’t children or adolescence or teens, even thought they act like them, but are too old.
But they’re NOT adults either, in any conceivable sense of the word.
So what’s the correct term?
I winnowed it down to Sub-adult.
The Germans might say Untererwachsenen
It has a ‘Negative Clank’, reminiscent of something vaguely sinister.
An example of a Sub-adult,
to wit: Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases
She is still pimping the 14 day quarantine window when an overwhelming amount of data reports suggests a min. of 21-24 days and some data suggests longer than a month+
Surely she read the memos and dispatches from the trenches and front lines. The MSM should be drawn and quartered for their criminal lack of honest, accurate reporting but She, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, has a better Intel, smokes better weed.
But that’s the thing about Sub-adults, they are infatuated with their own title and job description and don’t think about, well, anything, other than what her underlings deposited on the teleprompter for her to regurgitate in the limelight.
So even a derogatory epithet like Sub-adult doesn’t even register on their unevolved brain pans.
I frankly don’t think humans and humanity are wise enough to survive anymore.
The cheerleaders for unchecked human population for the last century are going to be surprised how Covid-19 is going to rip a swath through 7 billion hyper connected individuals.
And Covid-19 is just the first ‘Proof of Concept’ to be leaked from the Doomsday Bio-labs,which shouldn’t even exist if not for Sub-adults.
It makes nuclear weapons seem quaint and cute as a kitten.
Dr.D:. Yes, you got it 100% right! In Canada Trudope is the poster child!
Trudope has been too busy spending taxpayer’s money jetting around the world bribing 3rd world countries to vote him a seat on the UN security council to worry about the coronavirus!
Trudope can’t even get a handle on a small bunch of natives blockading railroads in Canada over a gas pipeline being built in BC, never mind find time to worry about a virus! Well over a 1,000 Canadians have been laid off so far as a result of Trudope not wanting to hurt protester’s feelings!
The local paper showed a carton with the parlament buildings with this “Hi everybody! I’m back from my UN Security Council Seat schmoozing world tour … Anything happen while I was away?”
Ah, no!
They capture the mood very effectively of an immature leader who can’t deal with reality!
Dave Note:. If there are any mice at the top of the ladder, I would agree it won’t end well! The cat has no worries!
Wes
I’m confident our fearless ‘leaders’ world wide don’t have aenough common sense not to put their hand into a moving fan blade.Doc Robinson:. Not sure how you came up with 9% death rate but it agrees with my rough rule of thumb.
My rough rule of thumb is:. We know about half of the 18% who catch the virus need serious medical intervention to survive. The other half of the 18% die. That means 9% will die.
We also know some of the cremators in Wuhan have stopped working due to over use! Since most of the people in Wuhan who need medical help are being denied help, the death rate could easily be closer to 18%. That would be up to 18,000 deaths per 100,000 infections!
Based upon Korea’s numbers, China likely has over 1,000,000 infected people or up to 180,000 dead. Not pretty.
Dave Note:. Sadly you are 100% correct!
I have worked on large industrial fans that would put wood chippers to shame!
Mortality rate for closed cases outside of China = 9%
(with the caveat that the calculation, as outlined below, was done with official numbers)Mortality rate for closed cases outside of China =
(Deaths outside of China) / (Closed cases outside of China) = 9%Note:
Closed cases = Deaths + RecoveredEconomics wants to be taken seriously, like science.
So an economist predicts China will see a 1% drop in economic activity!
And you want us to take you seriously?!
Wuhan, a city of well over 10 million people is 1% of China! Since the entire province of 58.5 million (or about 5%) is in total lockdown, 1% is just the starting point!
As a economist, surely you can do better than 1%! Try counting your fingers!
Some more quotes from Roger Water’s speech at yesterday’s rally for Assange:
This last year we have seen major protests erupt across the whole world against neoliberal/fascist regimes. In Chile, The Lebanon, Colombia, Ecuador, Haiti,France and now, of course also in Bolivia fighting the new US imposed military dictatorship there.
When will we see the name of England appended to that noble list? I sense the scratching of heads in drawing rooms across the home counties, “What’s he talking about, the man’s a bloody pinkopervert, bloody anti semite, what’s he talking about? We don’t live in a dictatorship, this is a free country, a democracy, with all the finest traditions of fair play, pah!”
Well, I’ve got news for you Disgruntled of Tunbridge Wells. We’d like to think this is a free country, but are we really free? Why, when Julian Assange is brought to the dock in the tiny magistrates court inside Belmarsh prison are so many seats occupied by anonymous American suits, whispering instructions into the attentive ear of the prosecution’s lead barrister, James Lewis QC?
Why?
Because we don’t live in a free country, we live in a glorified dog kennel and we bark and/or wag our tails at the bidding of our lords and masters across the pond.
I stand here today, in front of the Mother of Parliaments, and there she stands blushing in all her embarrassment. And just upstream from here is Runnemede, where in 1215, we, the English, laid out the rudiments of common law. Magna Carta, ratified in 1297 article 29 of which gave us Habeus Corpus. Or did it? It stated:
“The body of a free man is not to be arrested, or imprisoned, or outlawed, or exiled, or in any way ruined, nor is the king to go against him or send forcibly against him, except by judgment of his peers or by the law of the land.”
Sadly, Article 29 is not enforceable in modern law. Magna Carta is only an idea, and in this propaganda driven modern world, it provides no check in principle to Parliament legislating against the rights of citizens.
We do however have an extradition treaty with the USA and in the first paragraph of article 4 of that treaty it states. “Extradition shall not be granted if the offense for which extradition is requested is a political offense.” Julian Assange has committed no crime but he has committed a political act. He has spoken truth to power. He has angered some of our masters in Washington by telling the truth and in retribution for the act of telling the truth they want his blood.
…There are other speakers here, so I will make way, I could stand here all day railing against the dying of the light should we not stand Bulldog like, with arms linked, ranks closed in front of our brother and comrade Julian Assange. And when the lackies of the American Empire come to take him, to destroy him and hang him in the hedge as a warning to frighten future journalists, we will look them in the eye and steadfast with one voice we will intone.
“Over our dead fucking bodies.”
Roger Waters Feb 22nd 2020
<a href=”https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2020/02/roger-waters-on-julian-assange/” rel=”noopener”
Doc Robinson: Either way, the numbers are horrible!
I think we should just stop paying any attention to China’s fake numbers!
Sadly we are now getting our own real numbers.
It would have been much nicer, for us, to only have had to humor the Chinese.
But it has gone well past that point now.
http://textbookofbacteriology.net/growth_3.html
The Growth of Bacterial Populations
In the laboratory, under favorable conditions, a growing bacterial population doubles at regular intervals. Growth is by geometric progression:
Four characteristic phases of the growth cycle are recognized.
1. Lag Phase.
2. Exponential (log) Phase.
3. Stationary Phase
4. Death Phase.
Growth Rate and Generation TimeAs mentioned above, bacterial growth rates during the phase of exponential growth, under standard nutritional conditions (culture medium, temperature, pH, etc.), define the bacterium’s generation time. Generation times for bacteria vary from about 12 minutes to 24 hours or more.
Bacteria reproduce asexually by making an internal copy of themselves and then splitting, in a process called binary fission.
VirusesViruses are just genetic material (DNA) in a protein shell. They can’t reproduce by themselves, they need a host cell. Viruses dock onto the membranes of their host cell (human cell or bacteria cells) and insert their genetic material into the cell.
The virus DNA manipulates the cell and turns it into a virus replication machine. All resources of the cell are spent on replicating (duplicates/copies) this viral DNA and producing protein shells to builds lots of different new viruses inside the cell. Then the cell is either programed to die and the cell bursts open releasing the viruses or the cell is kept alive and keeps realeasing viruses through its membrane.HELP
I cannot find characteristic phases of the growth cycle , Growth Rate and Generation Time for virus?I find the following blog the best to understand the economic impact on China.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/big-hit-xi-warns-economic-fallout-covid-19-outbreak
“Big Hit” – Xi Warns Of Economic Fallout From Covid-19 Outbreakas the pandemic spreads across the world, now shutting down parts of South Korea, Japan, Iran, and Italy, the whole containment narrative has broken down – and the global economy could be nearing a prolonged period of below-trend growth.
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