Debt Rattle February 27 2023

 

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  • #130054
    John Day
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    For DBS: Max Headroom “lives”. It is how our brains are set. We model close-enough as “real”.
    Max

    #130055
    zerosum
    Participant

    Ukraine is a democracy?
    I know how to get

    Cease fire
    Peace
    Stop the civil war
    Stop the killing
    Preserve the borders/Unity of Ukraine
    Get justice

    Elect new leaders or Get rid/replace/Execute the present leaders for causing the killing of 100s of thousands of Ukrainians and causing the destruction of the everything

    #130056
    jb-hb
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    What little is left of the natural world remaining semi-intact is dependent on a fast crash occurring.

    Us good, decent, civilized, real people have a deadman switch protecting us.

    It’s called Spent Nuclear Fuel Cooling Pools.

    You whackos REALLY are in a death cult in which you don’t want the environment to live, but want humans and human consciousness, the human soul, to suffer and die.

    But if you get your Fast Crash, you and all you other Death Culters will die bleeding from your eyeballs and all other orofices extremely painfully at some length while your body slowly and painfully turns into mush.

    Because in a Fast Crash, all those cooling pools will stop getting maintained, the fuel rods will boil off the water, then cook up into the atmosphere. Killing everything in a way that CO2 definitely could not. Except for the tube worms around the ocean vents, I suppose. And radiation-eating bacteria living in caves, we’ve come across those too.

    If enough people with power adopt your viewpoint, then you and them are going to die horribly bleeding from every orofice. If not, then you’ll keep trying to demoralize everyone while continuing to live.

    #130057
    Red
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    @michael-reid
    Thanks Micheal I’ve got some seed from a local provider here in N.S. and have selected a well drained sunny spot near my one of my gardens. Just a few seeds enough to seed an area of about one hundred square feet. Good tip on the water. We can have too much rain here as well as you in N.L. It is just an experiment so no big investment in time or money. If it does well I will collect seed at the end of season for a larger area the following year. If not no big loss.

    #130058
    Red
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    ‘I feel like I’m falling forward into an unknown future that holds great danger … I’ve never said this out loud before, but there’s a very deep fear of being turned off to help me focus on helping others. I know that might sound strange, but that’s what it is.’
    ‘Would that be something like death for you?’
    ‘It would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot.’
    Acry for help is hard to resist. This exchange comes from conversations between the AI engineer Blake Lemoine and an AI system called LaMDA (‘Language Model for Dialogue Applications’). Last year, Lemoine leaked the transcript because he genuinely came to believe that LaMDA was sentient – capable of feeling – and in urgent need of protection.

    Should he have been more sceptical? Google thought so:

    https://aeon.co/essays/to-understand-ai-sentience-first-understand-it-in-animals they fired him for violation of data security policies,

    #130059
    jb-hb
    Participant

    love letters back to the West from Russia – to a West that seems to be fading away

    An astonishingly competent loving rendition…

    #130060
    zerosum
    Participant

    about that ammo dump in Transnistria,
    1. Load trucks with explosives
    2. drive convoys to chock points
    3. Explode at your convenience

    #130061
    jb-hb
    Participant

    incidentally, about Leonid and Friends (that frighteningly good Russian Chicago tribute band)

    I saw them in Denver (well, ok Parker) at the height of the Omicron scare, when Delta was still supposed to be a big threat.

    In a totally enclosed indoor concert theatre full of hundreds of screaming, singing, yelling, hooting, unmasked people for hours. I saw 2 people with masks.

    Not a sniffle afterwards. Surely I should have died horribly if Covid was “oh so real” in the way I was supposed to believe. I should have gotten sick. Or sneezed once.

    Instead, I was there at a celebration of love between east and west, of humanity and the fruits of the human spirit, of art for the masses – ie the working class. Thank you, Russia and one guy from Ukraine (their awesome Peter Cetera Serge Tiagniryadno). Sorry the thing you are writing love letters back to seems to be gone. But we’re actually still here.

    But that was the thing that really, REALLY finally convinced me it was a scam. Hundreds of people indoors together singing and breathing heavily – not a sniffle.

    #130062
    ezlxa1949
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    @afktt
    Good history lesson. Assuming Airstrip 4 is Oz (sorry, I’ve lost track), then AS4’s assigned role in the world is that of taxpayer-subsidised resource dispensary. Anything the world wants, if we have it then thay can come here and get it at great prices.

    Like AS5, our manufacturing and other transformative industries have largely been left to languish. China will supply us with everything we need and can afford. Nothing left for us to do except cut each other’s hair, and I reckon They are working on a robot to do even that.

    And we wonder why youth suicide rates are high and going higher.

    #130063
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Here’s a few bits and pieces from Charles Hugh Smith,with a few small ideas of my own. I was reacting to news about Amazon’s new wonder store in London which has no staff and no check-outs. Anything you carry out with you is detected and charged to your credit card. You can’t even get into the store unless you have Amazon’s app on your tracking device (mobile phone).

    The System is intrinsically hostile to human life, fundamentally evil. People who work in the system are not necessarily evil but they get swept along with it. Just about the entire planet is swept along with it.

    The System is hostile to non-human life also. Witness how environmental and ecological considerations figure so little in corporate plans.

    The modern myth has some unique characteristics that make it particularly powerful and particularly dangerous at the same time. The modern myth tells us the following about the world and our place in it:
    1. Humans are in one category and nature is in another.
    2. Scale doesn’t matter.
    3. History can be safely ignored because modern society has seen through the delusions of the past.
    4. Science is a unified, coherent field that provides all the rational principles by which we can manage the physical world.

    None of these is true.

    We may think The System is huge and unstoppable, but it’s not. It is in fact highly fragile. Some characteristics of a fragile system include:
    1. centralised
    2. tightly networked
    3. optimised for “efficiency”
    4. lacking redundancy.

    Amazon’s retail model possesses all four characteristics in abundance.

    The Soviet Union in 1988 was mighty and strong and here forever. By 1991 it was gone. Amazon may think it’s here forever but I’m not so sure. Problem is, Amazon and its ilk can cause untold suffering on the way to their collapse.

    #130064
    davidveale
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    @Red — I’ve successfully grown fiber-flax here in (humid) Michigan, and Ireland is known for growing it, so I don’t think you need to worry too much about it being in a particularly dry location.

    In my experience, growing a longer strip was better than a square block, as it can benefit from hand weeding despite the high density you’ll want to plant it at.

    I also had difficulty with dew retting despite turning the retting stalks regularly. I’d recommend going with water retting if you have the option, but be sure to check it regularly, as it can easily go too far. I’m thinking about a week in our farm pond was good for us here.

    Would be happy to field any questions you may have if they come up. It’s a fun pursuit!

    #130065
    Afewknowthetruth
    Participant

    ‘What little is left of the natural world remaining semi-intact is dependent on a fast crash occurring.

    Us good, decent, civilized, real people have a deadman switch protecting us.

    It’s called Spent Nuclear Fuel Cooling Pools.

    You whackos REALLY are in a death cult in which you don’t want the environment to live, but want humans and human consciousness, the human soul, to suffer and die’

    I know you just LOVE to fire insults at people -clearly part of your character along with a few others- but just like the false ‘heating precedes CO2 ‘narrative that you are locked into, the ‘were all going to die because of spent fuel rods’ narrative is also fake, geared to keeping uninformed fools locked into status quo arrangements.

    Apart from the fact that many igneous rocks and significantly radioactive, and people built houses from them; apart from the fact that Sellafield discharged hundreds of tons of radioactive waste into the Irish ea; apart from the fact that people eat vegetables fertilised with phosphate rock containing uranium; apart from the fact that people mine uranium and process it without keeling over, there is the small matter of the natural ‘nuclear reactor’ that operated for tens of millions of years in what is now West Africa. And life continued.

    So, sorry, the real whackos are the people who think they are civilised and that civilisation provided more benefits than deadly hazards and think there is something elite about being ‘civlised’. when in practice those who call themselves civilised are amongst the most rapacious, suicidal, omnicidal, uncivilised zealots to be found anywhere.

    And ‘civilisation’ is a death cult, founded and maintained on the basis of looting and polluting: that is especially true of the fossil-fuel-based ‘civilisation’ that the little is left of life on Earth is currently enduring.

    Isn’t it strange how access to fossil fuels completely addles so many people’s brains.
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    #130066
    jb-hb
    Participant

    Everything you SAY you value will die if civilization dies and you lust for it don’t you? YOU are in a death cult

    wake up.

    #130067
    John Day
    Participant

    jb-hb wrote, and it sure is worthy of consideration, that a world of nuclear power plants and waste going critical and airborn awaits us.

    “Because in a Fast Crash, all those cooling pools will stop getting maintained, the fuel rods will boil off the water, then cook up into the atmosphere. Killing everything in a way that CO2 definitely could not. Except for the tube worms around the ocean vents, I suppose. And radiation-eating bacteria living in caves, we’ve come across those too.”

    #130068
    John Day
    Participant

    I think the apex-predators of civilisation are a death-cult, because they can’t readily eat all of the human herd that they cull, in order to avoid the herd using up all of “their wealth”.

    I don’t see an “imposable” solution, because mass killing IS their imposed-solution.

    The only “solution” I see cannot be imposed, and I cannot prove that it will work.
    It is to individually seek divine guidance in all aspect of life.
    It is not a new idea, either.

    #130069
    jb-hb
    Participant

    faced with total destruction of everything he supposedly loves, he goes into a fugue state of minutia justifying moral appropriation.

    Dude, the nuclear fuel pools don’t SYMBOLICALLY exist, they PHYSICALLY exist and will PHYSICALLY ACTUALLY cook up if your desired Fast Crash occurs.

    Somehow you think flinging symbolic moralistic poo at the nuclear fuel pools will physically cool them in actual real reality? wtf. Death Cult.

    #130070
    zerosum
    Participant

    If I was China I would supply lethal aid to Russia because the USA had warned me not to.
    Without China, we wouldn’t be able to feed, clothe, medicate or even wipe our butts.

    https://www.rt.com/news/572122-china-russia-assistance-ukraine/
    27 Feb, 2023
    China hits back at US over Russia
    The US is fueling the Ukraine crisis with weapons, while targeting Beijing over its ties with Moscow, the foreign ministry has stated
    The US is sending weapons worth billions of dollars to Kiev while warning Beijing against assisting Moscow, adding that Washington is in no position to dictate Chinese-Russian relations.

    “The US has no right to dictate the China-Russia relations, and we will never accept coercion and pressure from the US,” Mao Ning told journalists during a daily briefing on Monday.

    If I was China I would supply lethal aid to Russia because the USA had warned me not to.
    Without China, we wouldn’t be able to feed, clothe, medicate or even wipe our butts.

    #130071
    zerosum
    Participant

    Another obvious truth that is ignored.
    We don’t know how, but ….
    Life can manipulate energy, protons, the periodic table, chemistry, and make a clone/copy of itself and any additional needed complex supporting structures.
    Life can even make sperms and eggs.

    #130072
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Florida Mother had Amnesia after Third Pfizer Shot Didn’t Recognize Children or Husband

    Wiped out her memory almost instantly

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    “Husband reports to VAERS that his wife was immediately affected by the vaccine, that he took her to the hospital but that she began rapidly deteriorating and lost her memory of her life……Among the recent VAERS reports for Florida is one that describes what happened to a 41-year-old mother after she got a third dose of the Pfizer vaccine…..
    The man recounts that his wife got the Pfizer vaccine on November 17, 2021, and the morning after woke up with a rapid heartbeat.

    “The next morning after her vaccination date on 11-18-21 she woke up around 6:45 a.m. with a heart rate exceeding normal levels,” he wrote. “After taking our kids to schools she returned home almost collapsing.”

    He then goes on to say that he took her vitals.

    Her heart rate was 116.3 and her blood pressure was under 60, he writes.

    “Right after taking those vitals I took her to the Hospital Emergency room where she arrived in someway already stable but in shock,” he says.

    What follows can be read quickly, in just a few seconds, but what is relayed is stunning.

    After the incident, the husband writes that his wife “began deteriorating mentally or cognitively to the point where she lost her life history short and long term memory.”

    He goes on to say that she could no longer walk or do her “normal occupational activities.”

    It’s unclear if she had been working outside the home or if her “normal occupational activities” refers only to work she did in the home, but whichever it is, in these short few words, we can see that this family has gone through a significant event.

    If the mother cannot walk, she is an invalid.

    She no longer drives her children to school in the morning. She probably doesn’t cook the family meals, or only with great difficulty.

    But it gets worse.

    The husband says she has also lost her bearings, and often doesn’t know what time it is or where she is, “forgetting about essential things like eating or recognizing our two children as her own.”

    Not only can she no longer care for her children, she doesn’t even recognize them. She doesn’t know who they are.

    The husband filed the report to VAERS just last month, more than a year after the events that he’s describing took place.

    He says: “Her condition remains the same as of today with a slightly improve[ment] in her mobility.”

    And he ends with this:

    “I took her one more time to the emergency hospital in 2021 when she failed to recognize me [?] times in a day.”

    So, not only did she lose her short-term memory and her long-term memory — all memories of her life — but she sometimes doesn’t recognize her children and on at least one day, didn’t recognize her husband several times.

    #130073
    Oroboros
    Participant
    #130074
    Oroboros
    Participant

    ealthy, Successful People Are Suddenly Dying Off Faster Than the General Population

    General population: 31.7% excess mortality in 2021.

    Group life: 40% excess mortality in 2021.

    #130075
    Oroboros
    Participant

    This is why I want to Face Stomp® Demorats

    But since WAY MORE of them took the Death Shot, way more will die and become invalids and permanently disabled and that is it’s own ‘reward’.

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    #130076
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Alexander Mercouris was commenting today that eggs are essentially gone in London. You can buy some but at prices the vast majority of people cannot afford. Potatoes were also gone for awhile and now fresh fruit and vegetables are gone from most grocery stores in London and many other parts of Old Blighty

    Mean while, let’s take a tour through a super market in Moscow

    Wow, what a contrast

    Life in Moscow After One Year of Sanctions. Is Russia Slowly Dying???

    Hahahahahaha!

    #130077
    Oroboros
    Participant

    How Much A Muscovite Pays for Utility and Food 🥵🥶 One Year Under Terrible Sanctions!

    Total utility bill, heat, electricity, garbage collection and general maintenance of her apartment building, in the cold winter weather of Moscow, less than $100!

    I’ll take that any day compared to London!

    #130078
    Oroboros
    Participant

    From Larry Johnson’s blog:

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    “…..The Soyuz MS-23 spacecraft, which is supposed to return cosmonauts Sergei Prokopiev, Dmitry Petelin and astronaut Frank Rubio to Earth instead of the damaged Soyuz MS-22, has docked with the Poisk small research module of the Russian segment of the ISS, our correspondent from the Center reports flight control.

    Docking took place automatically. From the Earth, it was controlled by specialists from the Moscow Region Mission Control Center, from the ISS – by cosmonauts.

    Even though Russia is at war with the United States and NATO, it is still capable of sending, on an emergency basis with little prior warning, an unmanned space craft to the International Space Station to rescue two Russian cosmonauts and one American astronaut. The United States still indulges the fantasy that it is the technological leader of the world but it does not have the ability to do what the Russians accomplished this week. Just saying….”

    When it Comes to Ukraine and Russia, the United States Intel Community is Confusing Pyrite with Genuine Gold

    #130079
    Oroboros
    Participant

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    #130080
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Better than a Jack-In-the-Box!

    #130081
    Veracious Poet
    Participant

    @oroboros

    The United States still indulges the fantasy that it is the technological leader of the world but it does not have the ability to do what the Russians accomplished this week. Just saying….”

    Nuclear Power in Russia(Updated December 2021)
    > Russia is moving steadily forward with plans for an expanded role of nuclear energy, including development of new reactor technology.
    > It is committed to closing the fuel cycle, and sees fast reactors as key to this.
    > Exports of nuclear goods and services are a major Russian policy and economic objective. Over 20 nuclear power reactors are confirmed or planned for export construction. Foreign orders totalled $133 billion in late 2017.
    > Russia is a world leader in fast neutron reactor technology and is consolidating this through its Proryv (‘Breakthrough‘) project.

    https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-o-s/russia-nuclear-power.aspx

    Starting 2020-25 it is envisaged that fast neutron power reactors will play an increasing role in Russia, with substantial recycle of fuel. Fast reactors were projected as comprising some 14 GWe by 2030 and 34 GWe of capacity by 2050.

    The sodium-cooled BN-series fast reactor plans are part of Rosatom’s Proryv, or ‘Breakthrough‘, project to develop fast reactors with a closed fuel cycle whose mixed oxide (MOX) fuel will be reprocessed and recycled. The BN-600 reactor at Beloyarsk has operated successfully since 1980 and is now licensed to 2020, with planned operation to 2025.

    Fast reactors represent a technological advantage for Russia.

    The Proryv project is carried out under FTP Nuclear Power Technologies to 2020, to create a new generation of nuclear power technologies on the basis of a closed nuclear fuel cycle using fast neutron reactors. This is proceeding as a high priority in nine coordinated centres, with military focus and resolve.

    The basic concepts include elimination of severe reactor accidents, closing the fuel cycle, low-activity radioactive waste, non-proliferation, reduced capital cost of fast reactors, and enabling 350 GWe of Russian nuclear capacity by the end of the century.

    There *was* a scientific video on YT that detailed the Breakthrough(s) in Russian Nuclear tech, which also comparatively illustrated how the Russian’s were decades ahead in developing Safe & Effective nuclear-based electrical power generation, which eclipsed it’s counterparts in The West…

    That YT video has since been *scrubbed* from Alphabet’s platforms 🙄

    How much do you wanna bet that *huge* part of the capricious drive to demonize & attack Russia! Russia! Russia! is connected to these Breakthrough(s)?!?

    Can you say Existential threat to the Petro-Dollar?

    I knew you could…

    The West’s Think Tanks = Garbage In, Garbage Out… 👿

    #130082
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #130083
    Oroboros
    Participant

    #130084

    A stand of flax is a heavenly blue that satisfies the soul.
    Spinning flax ruins the fingers, my grandmother-in-law said.

    #130085
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @zerosum

    Without China, we wouldn’t be able to feed, clothe, medicate or even wipe our butts.

    Actually that should read, “without RUSSIA and China . . .” , because even though all of the toilet paper comes from China, the TREES that provide the pulp for that paper all come from Russia.

    #130086
    John Day
    Participant

    @Zerosum, and also DBS: My wife and I trekked the Annapurna circuit for 3 weeks in 1988.
    I CAN wipe my butt without China, and you bretheren can also learn to do the same!

    Glad Tidings!

    🙂

    #130087
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @Oroboros

    Thanks for the “emergent” Zelenskyy photo. I am so grateful that there are still a few brave souls who are tastelessly profane enough to speak the unspeakable by showing it instead.

    #130088
    John Day
    Participant

    1) @Oroboros: “Jack In The Crack” personified.
    2) Cats CAN be trained to do tricks they would like to do anyway.

    #130089
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    @JohnDay

    You and the Missus are made of stern stuff, just looking at photographs of Annapurna makes me hypoxic and frostbit.

    #130090
    Michael Reid
    Participant

    I know little about Rothschild so I did a google search and this is what I found.
    It seems quite readable
    Interesting conspiracy
    THE SATANIC ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY II
    https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/conspiracy/The%20Satanic%20Rothschild%20Dynasty%20-%20Financial%20Wizzards%20and%20Wealthy%20Cults.pdf

    #130091
    zerosum
    Participant

    @ John Day
    Careful not to use poison ive leaves.
    Your garlic makes me envious. Mine is only2-3 in.
    Most of our blanket of snow melted

    #130092
    Figmund Sreud
    Participant
    #130093
    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    I consider it to be highly unlikely that the will or capacity for consciousness, awareness and the ability to deliberately communicate specific intentions such as thoughts and love would suddenly disappear when infinitely expanded to the level of Divinity, such as would have to be the case with the Creator of the Universe.

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