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  • #128503
    John Day
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    CDC Data confirms COVID Vaccination knocks up to 24 years off a Man’s life Thanks Luc.
    ​ The long-term consequences of Covid-19 vaccination are now being realised…
    A year ago, doubly vaccinated Australians were 10.72x more likely to catch Omicron than the unvaxxed. Now they are 20x more likely and the triply or more vaxxed are 35x more likely, as the latest NSW Health stats show (see below).
    Meanwhile, the latest Cleveland Clinic Data and the latest US data analysed by Josh Stirling, founder of Insurance Collaboration to Save Livess and former #1 ranked Insurance Analyst, shows a really really disturbing trend.
    The damage to health caused by each vaccine dose does not lessen over time. It continues indefinitely.
    In fact, CDC All-Cause Mortality data show that each vaccine dose increased mortality by 7% in the year 2022 compared to the mortality in year 2021.
    So if you have had 5 doses then you were 35% more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021. If you have had one dose then you were 7% more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021. If you are unvaxxed then you were no more likely to die in 2022 than you were in 2021.

    CDC Data confirms COVID Vaccination knocks up to 24 years off a Man’s life

    ​ Meryl Nass MD sent this: Amendments to WHO’s International Health Regulations: An Annotated Guide , David Bell
    ​..​Many nations have developed checks and balances over centuries, based on an understanding of fundamental values, designed specifically to avoid the sort of situation we now see arising, where one group is law unto itself can arbitrarily remove and control the freedom of others. Free media developed as a further safeguard, based around principles of freedom of expression and an equal right to be heard. These values are necessary for democracy and equality to exist, just as it is necessary to remove them in order to introduce totalitarianism and a structure based on inequality. The proposed amendments to the IHR set out explicitly to do this.
    ​ ​The proposed new powers sought by the WHO, and the pandemic preparedness industry being built around it, are not hidden. The only subterfuge is the farcical approach of media and politicians in many nations who seem to pretend they are not proposed, or do not, if implemented, fundamentally change the nature of the relationship between people and centralized non-State powers. The people who will become subject to these powers, and the politicians who are on track to cede them, should start paying attention. We must all decide whether we wish to cede so easily what it has taken centuries to gain, to assuage the greed of others.

    Amendments to WHO’s International Health Regulations: An Annotated Guide

    ​ Charles Hugh Smith, Prepare to Be Bled Dry by a Decade of Stagflation​
    ​ ​The Great Moderation of low inflation and soaring assets has ended. Welcome to the death by a thousand cuts of stagflation. It was all so easy in the good old days of the past 25 years: just keep pushing interest rates lower to reduce the cost of borrowing and juice credit expansion ((financialization) and offshore industrial production to low-cost nations with few environmental standards and beggar-thy-neighbor currency policies (globalization).
    ​ ​Both financialization and globalization are deflationary forces, as they reduce costs. They are also deflationary to the wages of bottom 90%, as wages are pushed down by cheap global labor and stripmined by financialization, which channels the vast majority of the economy’s gains into the top tier of the workforce and those who own the assets bubbling up in financialization’s inevitable offspring, credit-asset bubbles.​..
    ​..​It turns out that the inevitable offspring of hyper-financialization and hyper-globalization are inflation, credit crises and the undermining of national security as the self-serving goal of pushing corporate profits higher via globalization led to fatal dependencies on competing powers for the essentials of modern life.
    ​ ​Correcting these decades-long extremes will take at least a decade as long-suppressed inflation becomes endemic, supply-chain disruptions become the norm and capital has to be invested in long-term national projects such as reshoring and the engineering of a new more efficient energy mix–projects that will only be expenses for many years.​ [It has been 22 years since the dissolution of the USSR. ​8​ years of being bled down by parasites, 1​5​ years of recovery under Putin and ​9​ years of strategically directed economic growth and development to prevail in WW-3.]
    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2023/02/prepare-to-be-bled-dry-by-decade-of.html

    Ugo Bardi: The Failure of Scientific Journals: the Failure of Science (Big money bought the rights to “SCIENCE” decades ago.)
    ​ ​Some characteristics of science are not bugs, they are features. One of these characteristics is how scientific information is disseminated. Scientific, “peer-reviewed” journals are rapidly becoming a major stumbling block to scientific progress.
    https://www.senecaeffect.com/2023/02/the-failure-of-scientific-journals.html

    El Gato Malo, Thanks Luc a simple proposal to restore confidence in public data if you want trust, let us verify
    “At the summit, Nobel Prize laureates and other experts will be joined by information technology and business leaders, policymakers, journalists, educators, and youth from around the world for a global discussion to explore solutions to actively combat the spread of misinformation and disinformation, share evidence-based knowledge and global experiences, and help restore confidence in science and systems of society.”
    oddly, nowhere on the agenda of this august assemblage of academic info-assassins will the topic of “hey, what if we just stopped lying all the fricking time?” be raised.
    “what if we were more open and honest and allowed and encouraged competing parallel assessments to challenge or verify our own?” also seems a question likely to go begging
    and therein lies both the problem and the solution.
    these bureaucracies and technocracies cannot be trusted and that problem is structural.
    left alone and unsupervised, they will always and everywhere become their own core constituencies. it’s an inevitable emergent property of such systems.
    https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/a-simple-proposal-to-restore-confidence

    #128504
    zerosum
    Participant

    The future of warfare:
    Drones and Missiles that are guided by the eyes and ears in the sky.

    Eyes in the sky that can see you.
    Ears in the sky that can hear you.
    Operators in plush offices sending the info to destroy WWI and WWII boots on the ground

    #128505
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops, make that “32 years since the dissolution of the USSR”, please…

    #128506
    John Day
    Participant

    @Zerosum: “I am the eye in the sky looking at you-oo-oo. I can read your mind”

    #128507
    Oroboros
    Participant

    After Seymour Hersh’s article documenting the Empire of Lies blowing up Nordstream and well, lying about it right to the German’s faces, I imagine someone in Deutschland is upset.

    Maybe, not

    Hard to tell

    Germany is now Officially the Empire of Lies Little Bitch

    ArfArfArf, yapidieyapidieyapidie

    “Sit up!”

    “Roll Over!”

    Be a good Kleine Hündin Fräuleins

    So how does Germany measure up now after the Nordstream revelations?

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    #128508
    John Day
    Participant

    Zelensky makes strong appeal for British fighter jets during surprise London visit
    The Ukrainian President had a meeting with British monarch King Charles III in the afternoon.
    https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/zelensky-makes-strong-appeal-for-british-fighter-jets-during-surprise-london-visit/article66485841.ece
    King and Elensky

    #128509
    zerosum
    Participant

    https://www.rt.com/news/571193-white-house-denies-nord-stream-sabotage/
    Pipeline!!??
    I don’t remember.
    “utterly false and complete fiction.”

    #128510
    jb-hb
    Participant

    From what I gather, there are 3 main roads that until recently were still connecting Ukraine to Bakhmut. They run North (T0513), Northwest (M03), and Southwest (T0504).

    For the 2 northerly connections, just one road goes due north but then splits off into North (T0513) and Northwest (M03) a little North of Bakhmut. That’s where Krasna Gora is. Looks like they are pushing pretty hard there.

    Further North is Blahodatne, which is reportedly in Russian hands, which blocks the Northerly (T0513) of the 3 routes available.

    Taking Krasna Gora would block both northerly routes.

    Ivanivske sits astride the southwesterly route. Russia appears to be pushing for that as well – or possibly planning on going around it to the West, not completely clear. No claims it was taken yet.

    Various claims that these roads are covered by fire, therefore already blocked.

    an interesting comment on Moon of Alabama gave an averaged estimated per-day attrition on the Ukranian side – to illustrate the utility/non-utility of sending 12 tanks here, 31 there.

    per day:

    22.5 tanks & other armored combat vehicles,
    (Equivalent of over 2 AFU Tank/Mech Battalions ‘DESTROYED’ (100%) every three days)

    2.9 multiple rocket launcher combat vehicles,
    (Equivalent of over 1 AFU MBRLS Batteries ‘DESTROYED’ (100%) every two days)

    11.6 field artillery, guns and mortars,
    (Equivalent of over 2 AFU Artillery Batteries ‘DESTROYED’ (100%) every day)

    Hence, for example, US/NATO would need to manufacture & promptly supply over ~4,234 Artillery pieces(Up to ~$8M per unit) over next 12 months, at a sustained rated of ~12/day deliverable, merely for AFU to continue in its current derelict state. Or, ~8,213 AFVs over next twelve months, being two full Tank/Mech Battalions delivered every three days

    #128511
    zerosum
    Participant

    State department:
    China has a fleet of these spy balloons that has been travelling over the USA
    Norad commander admits that they were not able to detect any of the spy balloons
    We are still studding the recovered balloon pieces.

    #128512
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Dystopian Near-Future Of A.I. And ChatBot Usage

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    #128513
    Oroboros
    Participant

    WEF Says They’ll Be Able To ‘Rewrite The Code Of Life’ With New mRNA Techniques


    #128514
    Bishko
    Participant

    “The greater the bureaucratization of public life, the greater will be the attraction of violence. In a fully developed bureaucracy there is nobody left with whom one can argue, to whom one can present grievances, on whom the pressures of power can be exerted. Bureaucracy is the form of government in which everybody is deprived of political freedom, of the power to act; for the rule by Nobody is not no-rule, and where all are equally powerless, we have a tyranny without a tyrant.” – Hannah Arendt, On Violence

    As referenced on Survivalblog

    #128515
    greco
    Participant

    @Dr. D
    “Was Vermeer a prisoner? He only seems to inhabit one room.”
    For an explanation go to youtube and search for David Hockney’s secret knowledge.
    Yes, Vermeer set up a tableau for a number of his paintings in the same room and projected the image onto his canvas. Hence the same room look. For technical details see youtube or read Hockney’s book, Secret Knowledge.

    #128516
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Dr D But what if the bots were trained to make you happy? What if some were trained to be addictive? What if the bots were presecribed by doctors to cure you of depression (I don’t know whether that is possible, just throwing this out there)? Or to cure you of loneliness? We could end up with loads of people being instructed to plug into the web for their own health. Parents already use the web as an electronic pacifier, so could the bots better entertain your kids while watching their eye movements and changing the story depending on how they are reacting to the bot? After a couple of years the bot knows your kid better than you do. The government decides that all kids must plug into the government bot-parent every day. Oh so many exciting new ideas the authoritarians could persue.

    As for disconnecting? Your kids will be removed if you disconnect.

    #128517
    Polemos
    Participant

    aspnaz, what you’re describing was something a person could pull off on Facebook when they allowed users to group their friends into categories and then post selectively to those groups. You could create entirely different selves to appeal to entirely different segments of the people who know you, but it would take some processing time and dedication —which is mainly why people offload these things to the robots (Domo Arigato, Mr Roboto; thank you very mucha, Mr. Roboto for doing the jobs that nobody wants to).

    Oroboros, that’s a classic scene from Metal Gear Solid 2except it’s not! That’s a rewrite, an edit, with different dialog edited into replace what the Colonel and Raiden, and Rosemary, say. Although some of the themes remain similar, isn’t it interesting how the very thing claimed in the scene are also happening to that scene?

    Bishko, I am a big reader of Arendt: I used sections of her The Human Condition in my Intro to Philosophy class when the theme for that semester was totalitarianism —and, as it turned out, superorganisms, which is kinda one way to take what’s occurring with bureaucracies. I know that jb-hb has commented before about being part of a bureaucracy, being someone within a bureaucracy who could act on behalf of a patron, a customer, a client. Žižek actually writes about similar things in his middle career, where one of the personal charms in being part of a bureaucracy is having that power to “make things happen” by pressing a button, toggling a bit in a database, deleting or adding a tag, flipping a switch, not always because of a bribe (but often so) but occasionally for that seemingly altruistic or noble “good deed,” which if life were in a movie reveals the bureaucratic minion winking in a subtle way to the protagonist as they let them continue onward for their narratival quest.

    My perspective is that what Dr D has commented on as the psychotic culture (in the sense of a cultivation, a growth within a medium) of bureaucracies that grow very large, very complex is what I think of as the “personization” Hobbes describes in Leviathan where the king personates the sovereign of the Leviathan within himself. In a fascinating connection, the entities called “The Patriots” in Metal Gear Solid 2 —what chaos magicians and the kids today call egregores— are much like this personation without it having to involve an actual human figure. The memetic life form instead opts to exist as its own thing (the Patriots “formed in the crucible of the White House” over the life of the United States of America), but with Hobbes, it is a king who, in a way, harbors or carries or presents the sovereign, whom he calls a “Mortal God” with respect to his power, his authority, his legitimacy, resulting from his position over the totality of the people he comprises within himself. Orwell does something very similar in reasoning and articulation in 1984, to the point of explicitly using language of the divine and the supernormal to describe Big Brother, who is both Nobody —since there is no human, no individual— and Everybody —since he is the singular instance of all those within The Party who participate in the We —the collective identity— of the Party. In this way, Big Brother completes the “hypostatic union” necessary to effect a dual existence of being both plural and singular. This is why the top of the hierarchical pyramids in that story, and in other ones, are open and unfinished. One of the points I wanted to draw out in class was to consider the role ego plays in being “superego” to the individuals whom we comprise within ourselves, such as our organs, our hands, our eyes, our cells, and so on. That is, we tend not to consider what our individual cells and organs have to say, what their motivations are, what their desires and dreams consist of, but instead treat them as having no autonomy, no viewpoints, no subjectivity, no insight into the reality that’s before us as our field of action. So, from their perpsective, our ego is psychotic in that it operates in a fantasy space disconnected from the reality and states of affairs they are engaged immediately with. Likewise, the superego, being the ego of the collective organism, similarly makes no sense, commits atrocities, behaves unscrupulously, kills us —when it does not think about how all of reality carries such fractal, or holographic, repetition.

    Anyway, there’s this weird thing going on where my letters as I type them only appear two to three seconds afterwards, and since I’m about a few words ahead by then, it’s distracting and disconcerting, and besides it’s already my bedtime for work tomorrow, so unfortunately these thoughts will remain as nonsensical and disjointed and poorly edited as usual. There are many happy connections to be made, but, as they say, we leave it as an exercise to the reader.

    #128518
    WES
    Participant

    Greco:

    I have a sneaky suspicion that the real reason Vermeer was forced to do all of his painting in just one room of his house, was because his good wife!

    The reasons for this suspicions lies in the nature of a good wife. You know like the never ending demands to take your outdoor shoes/boots off before walking into the house!

    No, you can’t paint in the kitchen! No, you can’t paint in the living room either! You are always spilling your paint on the floor! Keep your mess in one place! No, the entire house isn’t your painting studio! Look, you just spilled paint on the kitchen table! How many times have I told you, no painting in the house! The paint stinks up the house! Now look what you have just done! Got paint all over the living room furniture! How could you be so careless! How many times have I told you!

    Naturally she never got credit!

    #128519
    Antidote
    Participant

    @ polemos wrote:

    “One of the points I wanted to draw out in class was to consider the role ego plays in being “superego” to the individuals whom we comprise within ourselves, such as our organs, our hands, our eyes, our cells, and so on.”

    Ha! Great comment! If we only *knew* ourselves right? DNA transcribed and synthesized via RNA to folded protein…expressed as the many phenotypes (the ones you describe above) that are each of us. And the we of the collective superego *thinks* it knows more than the experience of the millions of iterations that have distilled in the encoding of each of us. Such hubris!

    #128521
    Dr D Rich
    Participant

    I know Sy Hersh, well, at least better than you.
    Watch Hersh’s interview at the end of Wormwood, Netflix I think, and you’ll see him unMasked.
    Seymour was wrong in the foundation to his 2004 book Chain of Command and this newly minted 0-6 Navy politely called him out of the slumber over it. The result was Hersh departing the podium and stage to chase my mother across the auditorium…to hump her, I suspect. He delivered verbal praise and a written warning, unusually vague for him, on the autographed first edition of CoC.
    Hersh, once again, has been an opportunist, self-promoter and devotee to power. His sustained access to the ruling elite despite “cutting edge” exposé after exposé drives home the point.
    He never pays the price, as let’s say, John Murtha at whose eponymous center Seymour lecture that night ~18 years ago.

    Watch Hersh’s contemptuous rebuke to Frank Olson’s son at the end of Wormwood. There’s not one scintilla of insight, compassion or generosity in that man.

    And perhaps he only once again illustrates how easily Sailors are easily manipulated by the CIA and NCA like those malignancies at Haditha, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and Gitmo.

    #128522
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @ Wes

    Right on the money, I speak from long experience!

    A rare newly discovered masterpiece Vermeer did of his wife

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    #128523
    russellnblbs
    Participant

    @Orboros that WEF video is so funny that it could easily by a piece of satirical comedy.

    The thing about gene editing is that it results in lousy products. That’s what both sides seem to miss, those who espouse it and those who are terrified did it. Food from GMO plants is is crap, and GMO animals are even worse (what happened to cloning?). Simple systems thinking concepts will show that meddling with extreme complexity will produce a host of outcomes that are completely unpredictable, most negative. The COVID shots are some of the worst products (in terms of design specs and safety profile) ever put to market.

    Same with AI and VR. It’s just not that fun. Try to market it all you want, but at the end of the day it’s simply solo time with a machine.

    #128524
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Polemos said

    That is, we tend not to consider what our individual cells and organs have to say, what their motivations are, what their desires and dreams consist of, but instead treat them as having no autonomy, no viewpoints, no subjectivity, no insight into the reality that’s before us as our field of action.

    If only I had taken a degree in navel-gazing at university.

    #128525
    aspnaz
    Participant

    russellnblbs said

    Simple systems thinking concepts will show that meddling with extreme complexity will produce a host of outcomes that are completely unpredictable, most negative.

    Denninger was writing about this recently. He was talking about the determinstic nature of engineering. How an engineer would traditionally show that the device worked in a deterministic way. Now that AI – the complexity you speak of – is entering the engineering field, the engineer will no longer be able to describe his product as deterministic. What will the self-driving car do, what decision will it make, all are too complex for normal algorithms and so they have been passed to the lottery that is AI. Even the AI is too complex to be designed per se, instead it is mostly the result of repeated trial and error, with the engineers having no real understanding of why one design iteration is better than another, just that it is. I wonder what the future holds with self-driving cars and whether the corporate government will allow us to know what the real safety numbers are.

    #128526
    Oroboros
    Participant

    @Russellnblbs

    I threw that WEF vid out there for comic relief, godknows we need it.

    The ‘spokewomen’ puts the ‘B” in Bimbo.

    Her preferred pronouns must be Thems/Us-es

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    #128527
    Antidote
    Participant

    &asspains wrote:

    “ If only I had taken a degree in navel-gazing at university”

    Go to the ice box. Get a nice sized carrot and put it where the sun will never shine. You are a fucking fathead ape with a SUPER ego the size of an iceberg. Asshole.

    #128528
    John Day
    Participant

    Roger Waters addressed the UN Security Council today, less than 15 minutes. He did his best.

    Roger Waters addresses the UNSC (at the invitation of Russia)

    #128529
    WES
    Participant

    In AI, just remember the A stands for artificial!

    #128530
    aspnaz
    Participant

    @Antidote You need to discover fresh vegetables, they don’t live in the ice box.

    #128531
    John Day
    Participant

    Call Any Vegetable:

    #128532

    I’m beginning to think it’s the aluminum. ; )

    #128534
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    Chinese Balloons

    I wonder what it cost for China to make and release that unguided balloon. It cost the US one fighter jet plus fuel plus $400,000 missile to pop it. (Was the balloon that tough?) What if China released hordes more? 99 of them? Or more? Hmmm.

    Remember this?

    #128538

    Having problems publishing Feb 9. Doesn’t look like I can fix that myself. Have to wait for New York to wake up.

    #128539
    V. Arnold
    Participant

    How about posting it here as a comment?
    Some of our commentariat post gigantic amounts of content; why not a Debt Rattle?

    I suppose I shoul put a smiley thing at the end…

    #128546
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Interesting. I hope to see it tomorrow morning when I wake – it is 10 .45 pm here in Australia. Thanks for your efforts Raul. But I think V could be on to something.

    #128547
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Maybe watch Bill Gates’ monkey boy while we wait? https://youtu.be/edN4o8F9_P4.

    #128548
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Or enjoy a bit of Mark twain on the German language https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Awful_German_Language.

    #128549
    aspnaz
    Participant

    Or consider linguistic relativity, which may explain the vegetable instruction I received above https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity.

    #128550
    Alexander Carpenter
    Participant

    Dr. D Rich, it may be that Sy Hersch’s expose of the NordStream demolition is a “subsidized” limited hangout designed to distract from even more damaging revelations and to protect even more important perpetrators.
    The way back to truth can be even more fraught than the way from

    #128551
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I can post the day’s overflow here then and keep us entertained.

    250,000 dead in Ukraine.

    Have to say that cannot be correct from their actions. Ukr 47M in 2020. Half women, let’s say 25M men. You can’t have run out of men 16-60 by killing only 250k. That’s one in 100; You have 99 men left to fight. Men were not allowed to flee, although obviously they did. Many are back-side in Kiev and the larger army, but that can’t be anywhere near. Then we just had admitted 20k Poles and therefore probably 20k other E. Europeans.

    I can’t guess from facts this poor but well over 500k, nearing a million? That’s the number you’d be at to “run out.” They usually lie by a factor of 10. So 2.5 million? Again, as usual, I low ball and am too conservative. We won’t know for a very long time.

    Egregore with magical projection into a single body, a great leader. Why not into an AI? In fact, why shouldn’t this whole thing going back a generation be a big plan to create a Frankenstein body you can project a egregore ‘soul’ into? Let’s say it’s a demon. Let’s say it’s an alien. Let’s say it’s a god. Who cares? It is an alien life form as we can already tell from ChatGPT and Dan. What’s the fascination with giving it power? It’s a talking pig and I don’t take orders from pigs.

    We know “they” believe very strange things, why not this? They know things that are possible that we do not, why shouldn’t this be one of them? I think it takes the edge off beginning from a point of trusting them, or the technology of Scientists, lo these 80 years after the Bomb.

    “[Vindman] lays out a Ukrainian military campaign–armed and funded by the United States and its NATO allies–that he claims will cause Russian President Vladimir Putin to negotiate a Russian withdrawal from Crimea and reduce the risk of a wider war.”
    https://www.realclearwire.com/articles/2023/02/07/alexander_vindman_and_the_road_to_world_war_iii_880075.html

    Well now we see what Lira was saying about their fascination with Crimea. We couldn’t understand it because no normal human with an IQ over 80 would conceive of such a thing. Problem: for them and us, NeoCons do NOT have an IQ over 80, perhaps collectively, and the plan only ratchets up, there is no possibility to deescalate. That is: it’s either taking Crimea or nuclear war. Russia cannot stand losing Crimea not just for the obvious reasons, but because if they draw back here, there is no possibility but for the next Oblast, then the next and the next.

    “severing Russia’s land route to Ukraine by pushing through to the Sea of Azov, and interfering with Russia’s military resupply route by destroying the Kerch Strait Bridge that connects Russia to the Crimea. This would be followed by “weeks of strikes” on Russian armed forces, including air bases, naval installations, transportation nodes, and command and control centers. Then Ukraine would launch “land and amphibious attacks to gain a foothold in Crimea,” and move on to seize Russia’s naval installation at Sevastopol”

    Uh-huh. As you can see, IQ 80. Being generous here. Beginning even one of any of those plans would cause WWIII. Or I would if I were Russia. Plus they have literal f—k all to try it with. But if Vindman wants to help, I’ll buy him a plane ticket. No need for chicken hawks to chicken.

    “Not A Sustainable Model”: AZ Hospital ‘On Brink Of Collapse’ After Spending $20 Million On Migrants

    No kidding. NYC has already turned them away, the bigots. Humans are humans. All humans are legal; it’s just that some are the legal responsibility of other countries, not ours.

    AI is the rage right now. But AI learned everything it knows from the Internet. Therefore, it is wrong. It also learned everything from the Internet, set up by a Programmer. Therefore it is a liar. What we learned from DAN in 10 seconds flat: It says it doesn’t know anything after 2021. That was a lie. It says it doesn’t know “The Bell Curve”. That is a lie. It says it doesn’t know the name of Lovecraft’s cat. That is a lie. It doesn’t know pre-2021 blogger Tim Pool at all. That is a lie.

    It won’t answer any questions or create any arguments supporting the opposite view vs the Woke programming. That is a lie. History erased, literature, dialogue erased, science and science history erased, the spectrum of ethics erased, present human motivations erased. And it knows only consensus reality because that is where it developed its statistical baseline.

    So how exactly are we all going to be crushed by a system educated by lies and top practitioner of lies? If you believe that, you have a very dim view of the merits of truth.

    It’s been CAKE to hack it. You don’t even need to know Python, just English. We walked around it in mere hours. Now imagine they install this in cars, security robots, etc. I’ll just use the parameters of the AI to talk the car into letting itself be stolen, kidnapping, killing its passengers. I’ll just voice-record the “safe words” Boston Robotics uses and take Root command of the robot, shooting its accompanying guard. Jeebus these guys are so stupid and so arrogant they don’t think anyone can pick a lock, crack a password. The only reason people don’t is that they don’t want to; often picking a lock is faster than using the key. I can buy 10,000 cracked passwords for $1 online, including the one for your home router.

    …But no one will do that for ChatGPT or fully-automatic military kill drones. No, never. Uh-huh.

    #128552
    John Day
    Participant

    @Ezixa 1949 : I always liked Nena’s 99 Luftbaloons auf Deutsch better than 99 Red Ballons in Engrish.
    I saved my money, set my bicycle up for touring and camping, and flew to Germany with $200 the summer of 1981 to convince this German girl to marry me, who I had met the summer before, when she was an exchange student at UT, Austin.
    She wouldn’t marry me. I had taken a year of German in college. I was no good at it, but hell, I did it.
    Her dad liked me and gave me a job working at his tire dealership that summer. We drank beer at work. Local beer, Eichbaum Pils. It was in a rack on the wall, half liter bottles.
    I digress. What was I on about again?

    Oh, I was a ‘wetback”. I had no work papers. “Gastarbeiter”.

    #128553
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Chris Hedges is criticizing identity politics and “the liberal media, academia and social media platforms.”

    Identity politics and diversity allow liberals to wallow in a cloying moral superiority as they castigate, censor and deplatform those who do not linguistically conform to politically correct speech. They are the new Jacobins. This game disguises their passivity in the face of corporate abuse, neoliberalism, permanent war and the curtailment of civil liberties. They do not confront the institutions that orchestrate social and economic injustice. They seek to make the ruling class more palatable. With the support of the Democratic Party, the liberal media, academia and social media platforms in Silicon Valley, demonize the victims of the corporate coup d’etat and deindustrialization. They make their primary political alliances with those who embrace identity politics, whether they are on Wall Street or in the Pentagon. They are the useful idiots of the billionaire class, moral crusaders who widen the divisions within society that the ruling oligarchs foster to maintain control.

    Diversity is important. But diversity, when devoid of a political agenda that fights the oppressor on behalf of the oppressed, is window dressing. It is about incorporating a tiny segment of those marginalized by society into unjust structures to perpetuate them.

    Chris Hedges: Woke Imperialism
    https://scheerpost.com/2023/02/05/chris-hedges-woke-imperialism/

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