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@deflacionista – I also replied to your post yesterday. Read it if you want to. But let me repeat the major point I wanted to make:
You deride people like Kory and others (FLCCC), while posting “rebukes” (already debunked themselves) of IVM. What those doctors support is not IVM or HCQ or Vit.D or anything in particular, just fuck**g “early treatment”. They want to treat covid early because they know (like everybody else!!) that if covid is let run its course without treatment the outcome is much worse, sometimes fatal (fortunately, only for those at risk). They want to save lives with whatever they have at hand. Fauci knows this as well (fatal outcomes of doing nothing), and you know what, with the same undisputable information, in a lot of countries (“first world” countries at that, and all of them of a particular “lineage” of countries) the early treatment for covid (official and published policy) is “no treatment”. Is this not enough for you to suspect? It is not surprising that some reach to the conclusion that they are killing people on purpose.
This (“no early treatment getting people into hospital and dying) is absolutely undisputable by anyone “on the data” or “in the news”. This is enough for me to suspect “giant coincidence”. You can say all you want about vaccines being the only “treatment” but IVM is not the only repurposed drug that show promise, so you’ll want to try much much harder to convince me that vaccines are the only treatmen available… And there are more vaccines for this than I can count, why the push for mRNA only? Coincidence. Not recognizing immunity (or even a “passport”) for people who already survived covid? Coincidence. Not doing regular seroprevalence studies to estimate the immunity developed in each particular zone? Coincidence. Not doing proper transparency assessment in the stories about variants? Coincidence. On and on…
How can you believe in light of these coincidence that treating people early with (also undisputably safe) repurposed drugs that Kory and FLCCC give “bad advice” or their data need “tiny pushback”, as if they were snake oil sellers, is beyond me.
First, do no harm. Take your own advice and thoroughly check your sources!!
aagggh, lots of typos and broken english, sorry about that 🙁
@deflacionista – you should take you own advice and check the counter-arguments to the video you posted, because Yury’s arguments habe been teared down not only on the data, but also on the logic. Please suit yourself reading some of the critiques. Ey, I thought Yuri welcomed challenges on the data!
He claims to disprove that ivm is 100% effective. I can do that too, as I never heard anyware (and never saw the famous podcast) that number. What is clear as day is that ivm combined with other cheap treatments can elimitate 100% sure the threat of this pandemic all over the world for good. He stress the same fallacy as all other shills : “not proven in high quantities or over the long term”. Tip for you, damned Kory don’t recommend ivm in high quantities or over the long term, and the “end the pandemic” thing stil holds.
The thing those dangerous doctors are pushing is not “ivm or hcq”, but “early treatment”. The gall.
Yuri? he didn’t mention vitamin D and other promising treatments; it smells a lot as “I want to discredit these people and ivm specifically, they told me so”. How do you explain otherwise that other combinations for treatments are not adressed by Yuri? From the other side, how do you explain that in 25 countries the early treatment for covid (official and published policy) is “no treatment”? Is this not enough for you to suspect?
Again, on the logic of Yuri’s arguments… Vit.D, Curcumin, HCQ or IVM are SAFE. Let me repeat, SAFE, at the doses approved for other ailments. Proven beyond any doubt. How can Yuri (or you for than matter) that replacing “no treatment” with “do something” with them in early treatment is some kind of lunacy?
Vaccines on the other side, may be effective and are proven of not being safe for a (TINY TINY) number of people, and Yuri have no problem with them. Right.
All of that piece is really plagued with bias on “I dismiss this study because is flimsy or third-world-ish”, but “I prove to you I am right with this other (unsubstantiated and/or retracted) paper”. Absolutely full of that.
Just try to apply the standard Yuri uses to praise the vaccines to, say Vit.D: It will look to you as the ultra-wonder drug of the century…
Deflacionista, please, first *do no harm*.
…not even in themselves. Dumb in any case.
<<Investors managing more than $34 trillion in assets, nearly half the world’s invested capital, are demanding urgent action from governments on climate change>>
It occurs to me that if they are interested in the planet, they can spend a small fraction of their money to resolve the problem in less than a year.
Hence they are dumb, cowards, or they are interested in augmenting the pile of money, not in the planet.
From all out-of-spain opinions on the Catalan issue, I find a clear lack of sympathy to the Catalans that *don’t want* independence (regardless the “authoritary central government” issue).
And for all that democracy advocating, there are good reasons to suspect that a yes/no referendum can be a very rough tool to solve a situation of one million voters strongly in favor of secession, another million just in favor, another million that doesn’t care, another million not in favor, and another million strongly disagreeing with independence.
If you still think that single-question politics is useful here, you may wonder then why it didn’t work in any civilised country any time in history. Quebeq is not better off. Scotland is not better off. Imagine Corsica independentist “voting” without accord with french government.
Democracy is not a “solution” when a lot of people will always feel emotionally aggravated by the outcome.