Mr. House
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https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-begins-recommending-wearing-two-masks
This is just a tragic comedy at this point. If you want people to take you seriously provide the public N95 masks free of charge.
Mr. HouseParticipantI enjoyed this (lifted from the comments at ecosophia)
Mr. HouseParticipantNot sure if anyone here watched the superbowl, i caught half of it because my grandma is a huge tom brady fan wanted to watch. Anyways i found it to be so lacking in fun and enjoyment. The ads are usually the best part part due to being funny/silly. Not this year, i didn’t see a Jeep ad with bruce springsteen but it apparently has made some people angry. Didn’t see a single funny ad, everything was trying to be “inspiring” but really just came of as pathetic. Can you imagine what it was like when the first superbowl was played. All the pomp and circumstance removed, just some football in black in white? Anyways i stopped watching at halftime.
Mr. HouseParticipantThis was interesting, lifted from the comments at NC
Mr. HouseParticipantMr. HouseParticipant“20% of all dollars ever created were put into existence in 2020 with the Fed’s “QE on mega-steroids” response to the effects of not coming clean/fixing the 2008 GFC on the financial markets. How could that not turn the already existing bubble into a hyper-bubble?
Fixed it for ya.
Mr. HouseParticipantMr. HouseParticipant@polderdweller
Karl seemed to have the same take on that article as you. So what do we do about it? If its true that they stole it, could it not also be true that they’re in bed with the chinese? I always found it strange that those “videos” escaping china last year around this time showing people dropping dead in the streets made it on the internet here. China would never let something like that out. And the almost chinese “socialcreditscores” the tech companies adopted in 2020 also seems kinda strange. Whatever can’t happen here!
Mr. HouseParticipantAt this point i think you just have to ignore anything that is “mainstream” right or left. None of us were at any of these events and have no idea what happened. All we know is what we are told by people that the majority of us believe to be compromised. Lurk in the shadows.
Mr. HouseParticipantNot to mention the media’s reaction to COVID has been very similar to RUSSIAGATE. So if you didn’t let this crisis go to waste so you could get rid of someone you’d be gunning for since before they were elected, well those are still people i don’t want to be in charge of anything.
Mr. HouseParticipant“Consider the Pfizers and Modernas of the world: If Ivermectin was investigated by Johns Hopkins, Vanderbilt or the NIH with a couple million dollar clinical trial covering 10,000 people as soon as the Broward County report of effectiveness had become known back in April then Pfizer, Moderna and more would have had only a routine, 5 year or so path forward for vaccines. By June we would have known with more data than used for Remdesivir that Ivermectin was effective. We already knew it was safe; Phase 1 and 2 trials were unnecessary because we had 30 years of data already on it. Therefore one large-scale clinical, double-blinded trial for both prophylaxis and treatment would have answered the question with results in three months given the large spike in illness in March and April. Ditto for HCQ. For less than five million dollars we could have tested five such potentially promising drugs and found the effective ones.
There is literally zero purpose other than the self-aggrandizing panic-porn nonsense out of organizations like Hopkins, Vanderbilt, Oxford and IHME. Not one of them ran such trials. Not one. Every single one of those organizations continues to run panic porn to this day and their best and highest use is for their structures and furniture to be consumed as heating fuel by those economically displaced this winter with all their employees and families being used as a food source by those who they impoverished and caused to starve on a world-wide basis with their lockdown and closure recommendations. Their self-serving bull**** has resulted in the death of over a million people worldwide directly and tens of millions of people starving through the indirect effect of their proclamations.
They did much worse than nothing — they in fact promoted and made into policy known bankrupt strategies such as “universal masks” and travel restrictions which we knew factually were worthless.”
Mr. HouseParticipantStupidity is one thing: Lab leak
Worse comes to worse, people demand you stop these kinds of research and big pharma loses revenue, world continues to spin.
Malice is another: Denying cheap treatment because orange man bad, censoring those who disagree with you and so forth.
if its one or the other doesn’t matter to me. The same people who created 2008 (stupidity) and then responded with malice (foreclosures and so forth) are still running the show. They need to go, whatever their intentions.
Mr. HouseParticipantThis was interesting
Mr. HouseParticipantBring on the COVID investigations, if we can spend four years chasing Russian phantoms then we can sure as hell investigate this.
Mr. HouseParticipantI still want to know where covid came from, and it sure as hell wasn’t bats. A girl at the bar last week, as we sat outside in the 20 degree weather thinks it was bats. She also works for a very large university in the city (if its healthcare or higher ed in this day and age just replace those titles with .gov). But you give me hope Mr. Roboto, if even one person is beginning to understand the viewpoint of others its a step in the right direction.
Mr. HouseParticipant“I acknowledge Covid is a very real and deadly problem if left untreated. The thing is, it’s at least more easily treatable than influenza with Ivermectin, Azithromycin, Vitamin D3,and Zinc, but we simply won’t do that here in the developed world, despite the fact that it should be easier than falling off the proverbial log.”
As do i. Now what does it say when people post about those things and are censored? Premeditated murder by the medical industry with collusion by the media?
Mr. HouseParticipantMr. Roboto, nice to see you coming around! USA has the highest death count of any country dealing with COVID, We’re number 1 we’re number 1! Never forget about the REPO market beginning to blow up in the fall of 2019, or the market crash of DEC 2018 which caused them to stop raising rates, then lower them thru out 2019 and the bailouts were passed before any sort of steps were taken in regards to public health. And now we QE because COVID, not because the slime at the top never corrected anything from 2008. Politicians were telling people its a nothing burger, then realized the financial teat they all suck on was running dry, then they all went Henry Paulson with tanks in the streets and martial law. The Age of Fraud! Most people would probably meet in bars to discuss unhappiness with the loss of their job and .gov, but if we close everything they’re forced online where we can monitor everything, but they wouldn’t do something like that, would they? Rich gained 3.7 trillion in new wealth during COVID while workers lost 3.9. And most important of all as CJ Hopkins likes to point out, populism was crushed!
Mr. HouseParticipant“I think today your Father would be truly amazed to see auto production being stopped due too a lack of semiconductors! ”
I don’t buy that story, like i said last year in the spring when this all began, I think we are being conditioned to move on from endless growth but only as long as the “experts” or “elites” (i hate how people call them that, because they really aren’t) get to remain in control. If they wanted more semi conductors they’d find someone here to make them. Just like PA’s sec of state resigned due to a botched amendment. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Also i’m sure he’s aware because i turned him on to zerohedge a few years ago.
Mr. HouseParticipantI also think owning your own biz is the best way to spread the wealth among society. Roman history would agree, as the small holders gave way to latifundas. Not very different then the giant corporations that cannibalize their own people today.
Mr. HouseParticipantSomething for everyone to think about that occurred to me a few years back: As the government becomes more and more of the economy and picks the winners and the losers, its easy to understand the divide between the urban and rural. The urban (healthcare, higher ed, tech, and so forth) have been getting money from .gov hand over fist during this “recovery” while the rural people have watched their jobs go the way of the dodo and their hospitals close.
Mr. HouseParticipantI’ve actually flown in one. My dad was a pilot and a few years ago he sprang for he, my brother and myself to fly in one in central PA. Sadly the same company later had an accident with a B-17 and i’m not sure they’re letting people fly in the planes anymore. Funny thing, my dad, born in 1955 got his pilots license in the 60’s as a teen. He paid for it by doing odd jobs around the airport which he could walk to thru the woods near his house. The airport today is essentially abandoned, and you’d never be able to pay for lessons today by washing planes. Heck the everyday man who flew back then couldn’t afford the insurance or the fuel costs. Thinking on things like this has helped me have a different viewpoint then most my age and was one of the reasons i ended up here a decade or more ago. Not to mention that, but my father owned his own business, which wasn’t directly consumer related. He wholesaled autoparts, and his stories of how the industry changed from when he began working in it in the 70’s to how it is today is also another information point with regards to our current dilemma. I think owning your own business gives you a different perspective then those that work for a wage for a living. Partially why when they shutdown biz last spring i considered it an effort to consolidate even more for the one ring that will rule them all.
Mr. HouseParticipantSeems to me if you considered the US an adversary you’d be cheering that on.
Mr. HouseParticipantStalins purge of the military just before the outbreak of WW2?
Mr. HouseParticipantand one more for good measure
Mr. HouseParticipantand just because i haven’t lost all of my romanticism for the past
Mr. HouseParticipant@ Varnold
I just don’t think much more needs to be said. America is just two groups manipulated by higher powers to scream at each other.
Mr. HouseParticipantIf you guys haven’t seen this, it was interesting:
Mr. HouseParticipantSomething is not right with this story. She’s resigning due to a botched amendment? In this day and age? Doesn’t pass the smell test.
Mr. HouseParticipant“The market structure has been stripped of actual market dynamics, leaving it exquisitely fragile and brittle.”
This fits with the last post i made. It’s all the same, institutions, society, needs truth, and if people feel the truth is not being told they lose their minds. Exactly what we’ve been seeing the past 12 years. Until the truth returns, and it won’t be welcomed, this will get worse.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/our-fragile-brittle-stock-market
Mr. HouseParticipantI found this to be an excellent take
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When two parties attempt to negotiate a deal, the starting assumption is both sides actually want a deal. That is not always the case, but if one side thinks the other side is not coming to the table in good faith, they are wise to break off negotiations. For starters, they are wasting their time, since there is no deal to be had. Second, a party that starts a negotiation with a lie is going to keep lying. If you cannot trust anything they are saying, or their intentions, you cannot reason with them.
A simple example of this is car buying. When a person walks onto the lot, the salesman is trained to look for the signs that the person is just a tire kicker. He may profile him based on his appearance. A young guy looking at expensive sedans is probably not a serious buyer, for example. He will ask questions to determine if the person is serious about buying a car and willing to entertain an offer. The point is, he is determining if the other side is open to reason and ready to bargain in good faith.
This is the heart of any negotiation. Both sides have to start with the belief that the other side is amenable to reason and is bargaining in good faith. They may have different goals and very different ways of negotiating, but both sides have to be open to reason and come to the table in good faith. In other words, both sides want to find a deal that satisfies both sides. Otherwise, both sides are just wasting their time and perhaps harming their own interests in the process.
This is also the basis for popular government, which is nothing more than a long public negotiation. The various interests in a society have their goals regarding the issues they see as important and they work the process that is setup for hashing out the particulars and promoting their case. The public is both the referee and a counterparty. They make their voice heard throughout the process. The politicians are the hired negotiators, tasked with hashing out a compromise that satisfies the majority.
Like the simple deal between two parties, the democratic process relies on all sides being reasonable and operating in good faith. Sure, there are always bad actors trying to fool the public or game the process. The system, through elections, debates, public hearings, and investigations, is supposed to flush out the bad actors or at least correct what they have done after it is discovered. It may not be pretty, but the point is for reasonable people acting in good faith to reach a compromise.
What happens when the parties are not open to reason and they are not operating in good faith when they bargain? In a business negotiation, this often results in one side or the other breaking of negotiations. One side sees that the other is lying or up to shenanigans, so they stop wasting their time. This happens a lot, so firms train their people to look for the signs, so they do not waste their time. The most valuable commodity is time so you cannot waste it on bad deals.
In a democratic system of government, there are supposed to be rules to punish those who do not argue in good faith. Politicians who take bribes, for example, are removed from office and sent to prison. Interests that misrepresent themselves or defraud the public see their interests destroyed as a way to discourage the practice. There are laws that allow the media and the public to examine the claims of the various parties in order to root out corruption and deception. That is the theory, leastways.
That is clearly not where America is right now. Liberal democracy has evolved into one giant game of liar’s poker. Much like the financial markets, the big players in the system no longer have respect for the spirit of the rules. They never come to any deal in good faith and they are never open to reason. They want to “win” the deal by getting all of what they want at the expense of the other parties. In modern liberal democracy, no one is acting in good faith and no one is open to reason.
It is not just the big interests gaming the system. The system itself has been gamed to the point where only a sucker operates in good faith. The politicians, instead of operating as brokers and negotiators, are middlemen facilitating the looting of the system by the big players. Public debate is now a game of shadows, because the mass media lies about everything and is always pushing an agenda on behalf of the big players or their politicians working on their behalf.
Of course, the old adage about always knowing who the sucker in the room is when in a room full of sharps applies here. In the great hall that is where negotiations happen in a liberal democracy, the monied interests, the politicians, the media, and the shadowy players of the permanent ruling class put on a negotiating show. The public, until very recent, was never sure who was being conned by the grifters. As the saying goes, they were always the sucker in the system.
This is the heart of the current crisis. The reason the financial markets keep needing bailouts is because everyone inside that system is a liar. No one comes to a deal in good faith and no one is willing to reason with the other side. Everyone is trying to take advantage of everyone else. In a system of zero social trust, entropy is inevitable, which in human systems means collapse. This is why the financial markets careen from crisis to crisis, needing bailouts from the public.
Liberal democracy is mirroring the financial markets. This makes perfect sense, as the entire culture has been financialized. Republican virtue was removed from the official system long ago. What remained of it with the general public went away with the events of the last few years. America now finds itself in a world where no one acts in good faith and no one is open to reason. We have reached the point where we need a bailout, but there is no bailout for a liberal democracy that fails.”
Mr. HouseParticipantOnly my feelings matter. The people who had burning cities all summer, they’re bad people so their feelings don’t matter. That sums up the modern day “left”. We can attack you, but you aren’t allowed to fight back. Sigh.
Mr. HouseParticipantThe one thing you can count on in the Age of Fraud and as Dr. D loves to point out, no one will be held accountable
Mr. HouseParticipant“The answer is not apparent. Is this a long term business model on your rent to keep living, in the form of a vaccine every 6 months? That’s plausible.”
The major healthcare company i work for has said you’ll need a booster shot each year, so that sounds right. And i still believe this will be made mandatory at some point if you want to “work” for a major corporation. I think so far the response to the vaccine hasn’t been what they thought it would be, now they’re doing pro vaccine townhalls and such. People aren’t getting the jab like the TPTB thought they would.
Mr. HouseParticipantI mean Dracula was a noble man, lived in a castle, taking from the people made him a “blood sucker”. I’m sure somebody has written a book on this topic.
Mr. HouseParticipant“Rania Khalek: “Too bad there’s so much hatred for bill gates over a conspiracy theory that he wants to micro chip us when actually he’s just a billionaire monster trying to cash in on vaccine profits.”
Monster stories had to originate from somewhere 😉 People just get creative
Mr. HouseParticipantSUCH COURAGE!
Mr. HouseParticipantHa Wolf just deleted a thread saying the economy was gonna collapse before covid due to a comment of mine that was in moderation since 11 AM. Who’s got an agenda?
Mr. HouseParticipant” I’m galloping out of a burning barn for safety.”
That’s why i’m moving out of the city. Too many kool-aid drinkers and they’re beginning to get dangerous. Politics and covid have replaced religion since they killed god and people need to fill that hole. In a work townhall and a MD essentially said you will need a vaccine booster shot every year and they expect biz will mandate employees get it. sigh, the night just keeps getting darker and darker. Feels like we’re living in a poorly written and “acted” hollywood bmovie.
Mr. HouseParticipantI also agree with you Dr. D
I am very individualistic myself. Why have someone else do something for me which only complicates the situation when i can do it myself. But i also believe that one way of doing things is never the right answer. It needs to be a hybrid between collectivism and individuality.
Mr. HouseParticipantDBENTONSMITH
I also think you feel as i do, How much longer must we discuss this on the internet? We’ve been doing it going on a decade now and what good has it done us? Well we understand the pendulum better now, but perhaps you a chomping at the bit for some action?
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