Mr. House
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@John Day
I always suspected our own government before anyone else. But if it escaped in June, what does that say about the severness and contagiousness of Covid-19?
Man, what to believe anymore? Do you guys remember people rioting in Europe during Fergason and Baltimore during Obama’s term? What are the chances that after 4 years of russia russia russia, this is all being used as one final push to get trump either out of office or not reelected? Funny how people protesting the lockdown were shamed by nurses but people rioting get applause? Strange days have found us
Well you can’t let something that douses your induced hysteria ruin the narrative, duh
Think of it this way, if what we are actually living thru is some sort of factional power play within the US government, i would suspect that if the election happens this year, it will be contested. Lets all keep our eyes open and observe as november rolls closer.
Alot of you who comment on the virus remind me of an ex girlfriend. Her mom had been diagnosed with cancer. For two weeks i consoled her and she cried and cried and cried. Finally one friday she showed up to pick me up to head to my parents, and she was till crying. Finally i said to her, is your mom dead? She said no between sniffles, to which i replied then stop acting like it. Over a decade later and her mom is still kicking. You people who lament how this virus is being handled give it too much stock. This is Russiagate on steriods and you are lapping it up.
@Dr. D
Yeah i was thinking about the opioid epidemic recently. That couldn’t be used as a cover for financial collapse because using heroin is a choice. And has a long established list of side effects. Better to gin up something that everyone can get, has symptoms all over the spectrum, along with no cure. Has anyone here ever watched Highlander 2? Long story short, the ozone layer is going kaput and conner mccloud creates a shield to keep us all safe. Decades after the shield is put in place they find that the ozone layer has healed itself but the corporation who controls the shield won’t tell the truth because power. Think of the us government like that corporation.
Oh and i spent last saturday with a friend who is a nurse in the city of champions. She actually works with covid patients. She is even starting to question this, and said most of her days are spent doing nothing at the hospital.
Its funny, i stopped reading the wall street journal and many main stream outlets during 2008 because what they were saying didn’t match the reality. I ended up at places like the automatic earth and others. I’m starting to get that same feeling again.
“Taleb likes to say it’s not the state that shuts down an economy, it’s the people:”
And the media that whips them up into a frenzy
More fuel for my theory
Evidence Suggests U.S. Financial Crisis Started on August 14, 2019
Such a convenient time line
Didn’t some suggest awhile back that 9/11 was a cover up for financial fraud? Something about building seven holding documents with regards to worldcom and others? I mean they also got an endless war out of it, along with the enemy being whoever the flavor of the month was. Feels strangely familiar
A thought crossed my mind today: Will we be installing plastic shields between bowling lanes when this is all over?
“I believe with all my heart that if we are to take individual rights seriously, then we must take individual responsibility and agency just as seriously.”
Couldn’t agree more, which is why i have such a hard time with this. What was responsible about the bailouts that just occurred? Is it not the same people in charge of the financial and the COVID response? I love Ben and I love you Illargi. I wouldn’t understand what i do without people like you guys. But you’re losing me on this Covid stuff. All i see is more government overreach and never letting a crisis go to waste. And why are the stats displayed on every website you visit? My favorite was yahoo finance, they added covid stats randomly above the ticker a few weeks back. I feel like we’re being punk’d here. Oh and the states using the color codes for countys feels very 9/11ish. You guys remember those? Terror threat orange today good citizens!
“NSA, FBI, DNI have all been lying about Seth Rich for 4 years; hard to believe Mueller wasn’t in on it.
Why? They all knew the correspondence would kill off the Russian hacking story, and exonerate Assange. Couldn’t let that happen.”
Who killed Seth Rich? But the virus is on the level, we wouldn’t lie about that. No sir, we are paragons of virtue
This is us
“Conquered men, women, children, elderly people — they don’t spontaneously rise up and try to kill people who abuse and oppress them. Most people are not heroic. Most people are easily terrified, especially once they have already been placed in subjugated position. And if they are heroic, they usually die heroic deaths, alone. It continues to happen all over the world. Right now, somewhere, someone is being beaten and horribly abused and even if given the opportunity to strike back at the person doing the abuse, they won’t take it.
In Roman Britain, the tribes didn’t stage a successful coup against the occupying forces even when given ample opportunity and more than enough reason to unite. On three separate occasions, the governor of Britain broke off from the empire. Even in a state of Roman civil war, the tribes were unable to eject the Romans. The one very notable case of rebellion was during Suetonius Paulinus’ campaign in what is now Wales. The leader of the Iceni, Boudica, was beaten and her daughters were raped because Boudica challenged the transition of her late husband’s authority to the Roman governor (Paulinus). Only with Londinium essentially vacated of military forces did the Iceni and Trinovantes dare to attack. They were successful in causing a huge amount of civilian damage, but in the end, Paulinus’ troops rolled over the Iceni and routed them. The nearby Brigantes provided essentially no help to the Iceni and at least one source suggests Boudica may have even been poisoned by the Brigantes’ queen. Someone mentioned Nero earlier; it’s worth noting that all of this happened under Nero’s rule and Rome still easily held Britain despite Nero’s general lack of… being good as an emperor.
This pattern can be found a lot in history. It’s rare for spontaneous uprisings to happen against conquerors. Or rather, it’s more appropriate to say that it is extremely common for abusive occupation to go effectively uncontested for years, decades, or even centuries.”
What we think doesn’t matter anyways, we’ve been pissing into the wind for the past 12 years along with those above us pissing down onto us. I guess we’ll be here another 12 years lamenting the woes of the unjust world we live in, cowering in our abodes if we still have one, waiting for Jesus to return.
If you take this so seriously why are you injecting Red/Blue politics into this? I live in Western PA and so far this is a giant nothing burger here. I think Blue and Red are equally evil, most of us on this site used to be able to agree about that. Can we all agree on here that the problems from 2008 were massive, never corrected, and trying to rear their ugly head since 2008. The Federal reserve has kept the monetary pedal to the medal since 2008, and since the virus has gone to ludicrous speed? While we’re all arguing about something as we usual do, they’re robbing the treasury. Just seems to perfect.
If you read the article he posted it shows deaths from england and wales i believe. The chart is saying the deaths this year aren’t really that off trend from other years. Interesting article.
“Of course, just look at him, Fauci is a wanker and a rodent and a stooge for Big Pharma, or he would’t have had his job for so long. But that doesn’t say much about him, it merely describes the USA.”
Exactly and the same goes for everyone at the top. I’m not saying the virus isn’t real, i’m just arguing its being used as cover for economic depression. This cover will deflect blame from where it belongs, with the same people the automatic earth has been pointing out since i began reading it. None of them will be fired, none of them will lose their jobs, as Dr D loves to point out. Same people from the last crisis who didn’t fix anything calling the shots in this “crisis”.
Oh and on another note, did you see the article in politico the other day where the NY Fed released a research paper stating that the spanish flu led to the rise of the nazis?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/05/fed-study-1918-pandemic-nazi-party-gains-236530
I mean really? When has anyone ever published a NY Fed paper in politico? It wasn’t the economy and inflation, it was the nazis, or maybe it was inflation and the bad economy when those were the enemies and we’re now changing our minds?
“Why are we still discussing the OPCW? Why does it still exist? They’re a bunch of liars who were found out.”
I agree 100% with that sentiment, which is why i’m having so much trouble now buying into all of this. That same story about liars in Syria doesn’t just end with the OPCW. It was also pushed by the US government and the US media. My question to you Illargi (also thank you for being the most tolerant of contrarian viewpoints of all the sites i’ve been reading the past ten years) why should i believe them now? How many times can i be lied to before my trust is fully broken? I’d say it was gone long before COVID. For 12 years i’ve been reading you and others and waiting for the financial house of cards to collapse from its own corrupt weight. Suddenly it does, i mean the fed stopped raising rates after december of 2018, they then begin to lower rates spring of 2019, balance sheet reduction also ends that year, then in September you have repo issues that were still raging beginning this year. And pow, virus. I have been following this virus since January when zerohedge began to post about it. I still don’t know anyone with it, but thats ok because everyone already has it but doesn’t know it(asymptomatic carriers)? Not only that, but nobody and i mean nobody but “the fringe” of people is questioning it? You have no skepticism of this at all? Have you had any personal experiences with it yet? Oh and by the by did you see the skyscraper in the UAE that caught fire? It burned all night and from the pictures was quite the raging inferno, yet it did not fall into its own footprint. The lies and lies and lies, but now i should believe the authorities?
