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 October 20, 2012  Posted by at 10:29 pm Finance


It's time we do away with the notion behind the incessant flow of stories and warnings about upcoming hyperinflation in the US. It can't and therefore won't happen, at least not for years into the future. It would be a lot more constructive – and necessary – to focus on the reality we see before us than on such a purely mythological tale. Because that's all it is. Bubbles, and yes, that includes credit bubbles, have their own internal dynamics: they MUST pop when they reach critical mass.

Trying to prevent the pop, or even increase that mass, is futile. And even though that may be more about physics than about finance, why it is so hard to understand is beyond me. The deleveraging, a.k.a. debt deflation, has hardly begun, and it for now remains largely hidden behind a veil of QEs. That doesn't negate the fact that ultimately QE is powerless to stop it, even as it sure manages to fool a lot of people into thinking it can.

But don't take my word for it. You could start with – even – the IMF saying European banks will need to sell $4.5 trillion in assets through 2013. And then try to explain how that could possibly link to hyperinflation. For now: never mind.

Puru Saxena wrote a good piece on the topic recently, here are a few excerpts:

The Age of Deleveraging

The world’s major economies are struggling and their private-sector is deleveraging (paying off debt). If history is any guide, this deflationary process is likely to continue for several years.

You will recall that heading into the global financial crisis, corporations and households in the developed world were leveraged to the hilt. During the pre-crisis era, debt was considered a birth right and for decades, the private-sector leveraged its balance-sheet. Unfortunately, when the US housing market peaked and Lehman went bust, asset values plummeted but the liabilities remain unchanged. Thus, for the first time in their lives, people in the developed world experienced the wrath of excessive leverage.

Today, the private-sector in the West is struggling and for the vast majority of households, their liabilities now exceed their assets. Furthermore, incomes have also declined (or vanished), thereby making the debt servicing even more difficult. Consequently, in order to avoid bankruptcy, the private-sector in the developed world is now trying its best to reduce its debt overhang. Instead of getting excited by near-zero interest rates and taking on even more debt, it is now doing the unthinkable and paying off its liabilities.

Figure 1 shows that despite the Federal Reserve’s carrot of almost free credit, the private-sector in the US is deleveraging. As you can see, since the bursting of the housing bubble, America’s companies and households have been accumulating large surpluses. Make no mistake, it is this deleveraging which is responsible for the sluggish economic activity in much of the developed world. Furthermore, this urge to repay debt is the real reason why monetary policy in the West has become ineffective.

 





Figure 1: America’s private-sector is not playing Mr. Bernanke’s game. Source: Nomura

If you review data, you will note that in addition to the US, most nations in Western Europe are also deleveraging and this explains why the continent’s economy is on its knees.

The truth is that such periods of deleveraging continue for several years and when the private-sector decides to repay debt, interest rates remain subdued and monetary policy becomes ineffective. Remember, during a normal business cycle, monetary easing succeeds in igniting another wave of leverage. However, when the private-sector is already leveraged to the hilt and it is dealing with negative equity, low interest rates fail to kick start another credit binge.

As much as Mr. Bernanke would like to ignore this reality, it is clear to us that this is where the developed world stands today. Furthermore, this ongoing deleveraging is the primary reason why the Federal Reserve’s stimulus has failed to increase America’s money supply or unleash high inflation. Figure 2 shows that over the past 4 years, the US monetary base has grown exponentially, yet this has not translated into money supply or loan growth.

 





Figure 2: Liquidity injections have failed to increase US money supply. Source: Nomura

At this stage, it is difficult to forecast when the ongoing deleveraging will end. However, we suspect that the private-sector may continue to pay off debt for at least another 4-5 years. In our view, unless the US housing market improves and real-estate prices rise significantly, American households will not be lured by record-low borrowing costs. Furthermore, given the fact that tens of millions of baby boomers are approaching retirement age, we believe that the ongoing deleveraging will not end anytime soon. Due to this rare aversion to debt, interest rates in the West will probably remain low for several years. [..]

Once you realize just how enormous that gap is (see that last graph) between the monetary base vs the money supply, and the seemingly smaller gap between monetary base vs loans and leases, maybe then you see a light a-shinin'. Maybe you never thought about things that way before, or maybe you never saw it in a graph, and you needed to see that. It surely carries a very large argument against hyperinflation.

Puru Saxena thinks there are positive signs in US housing numbers, that there's a bottom, and he's certainly not the only one; that's one train everyone seems to be eager to jump on.

I’m sorry, but I think the recent alleged US housing recovery is a proverbial soap bubble. In the article below, Tyler Durden at ZH calls it a "subsidized bounce". He also says: "two concurrent housing bubbles can not happen", and he may well be right, but if he is, it means that perhaps what we see is a bubble within a bubble, a mother and child bubble, instead of two concurrent ones. Durden brings interesting numbers and developments to the forefront. It would be good if more people digest them, and only then decide whether this is a recovery or not.

US households are not merely deleveraging, and taken as a whole you could perhaps make a point that they're not at all. They go one step beyond deleveraging: they're simply and plainly defaulting.

US Households Are Not "Deleveraging" – They Are Simply Defaulting In Bulk

Lately there has been an amusing and very spurious, not to mention wrong, argument among both the "serious media" and the various tabloids, that US households have delevered to the tune of $1 trillion, primarily as a result of mortgage debt reductions (not to be confused with total consumer debt which month after month hits new record highs, primarily due to soaring student and GM auto loans). The implication here is that unlike in year past, US households are finally doing the responsible thing and are actively deleveraging of their own free will.

This couldn't be further from the truth, and to put baseless rumors of this nature to rest once and for all, below we have compiled a simple chart using the NY Fed's own data, showing the total change in mortgage debt, and what portion of it is due to discharges (aka defaults) of 1st and 2nd lien debt. In a nutshell: based on NYFed calculations, there has been $800 billion in mortgage debt deleveraging since the end of 2007. This has been due to $1.2 trillion in discharges (the amount is greater than the total first lien mortgages, due to the increasing use of HELOCs and 2nd lien mortgages before the housing bubble popped).

In other words, instead of actual responsible behavior of paying down debt, the primary if not only reason there has been any "deleveraging" at all at the US household level, is because of excess debt which became insurmountable, not because it was being paid down, the result of which is that more and more Americans are simply handing their keys in to the bank and walking away, and also explains why the US banking system is now practicing Foreclosure Stuffing, as defined first here, as the banks know too well, if all the housing inventory which is currently in the default pipeline were unleashed, it would rip off any floor below the US housing "recovery" which is not a recovery at all, but merely a subsidized bounce, as millions of units are held on the banks' books in hopes that what limited inventory there is gets bid up so high the second housing bubble can be inflated before the first one has even fully burst.

 



Naturally, two concurrent housing bubbles can not happen, Bernanke's fondest wishes to the contrary notwithstanding, especially since as shown above, US households do not delever unless they actually file for bankruptcy, and in the process destroy their credit rating for years, making them ineligible for future debt for at least five years.

It is thus safe to say that all the other increasingly poorer US households [..] are merely adding on more and more debt in hopes of going out in a bankrupt blaze of glory just like everyone else: from their neighbors, to all "developed world" governments. And why not: after all this behavior is being endorsed by the Fed with both hands and feet.

The following graph from TD Securities ( through Sam Ro at BI ) makes a good case for the "subsidized bounce" definition Durden applies to the present US housing market. It's no secret there's a huge shadow inventory overhanging US housing, and now it comes out that those great new home numbers are not what everybody would like to think they are.



Many more houses are built than sold. And get shoved on top of the pile that's already there, both the shadow inventory and the out of the closet one. Which begs the question: how long does a home stay in the "new" category? Does it take 1 year of staying empty for it to move to "existing"? 2 years, 3 years? 5? For one thing, builders and developers certainly have a huge incentive to continue to advertise it as new.

A graph from the same source:

 



How this constitutes a recovery I just can't fathom. I think that is just something people would like so much to see that they actually see it. Moreover, there remains the issue that it's very hard for most to comprehend what debt deflation is, what its dynamics are, and what consequences it has.

We have lived through the by far biggest credit bubble in history. It should be clear to everyone that this bubble has not fully – been – deflated yet (and if it's not, good luck). Until it has, economic recovery and housing recovery are pipedreams. And so is hyperinflation, though that may be more of a pipe nightmare. There is no way QE, or money printing, or whatever you name it, can cause hyperinflation against the tide of a deflating bubble. Once a bubble has fully burst, it is a possibility. But only then. And only if and when a country has become unable to borrow in international debt markets. Greece perhaps soon, but for the US it's years away, if ever.

Darrel Whitten at iStockAnalyst has more:

QE Not Preventing Slowest Growth Since 2009 Recession

QE Ad Infinitum: Why QE is Not Reviving Growth

In a speech in November of 2002, Fed chairman Ben Bernanke made the now infamous statement, "the U.S. government has a technology, called the printing press, that allows it to produce as many U.S. dollars as it wishes essentially at no cost," thus earning the nickname "Helicopter Ben". Then, he was "confident that the Fed would take whatever means necessary to prevent significant deflation", while admitting that "the effectiveness of anti-deflation policy would be significantly enhanced by cooperation between the monetary AND fiscal authorities."

Five years after the 2008 financial crisis, Helicopter Ben undoubtedly has a greater appreciation for the issues the BoJ faced in the 1990s. The US 10-year treasury bond (as well as global bond) yields have been in a secular decline since 1980 and hit new historical lows after the crisis. What the bond market has been telling us even before the QE era is that bond investors expect even lower sustainable growth as well as ongoing disinflation/deflation, something that Helicopter Ben has been unable to eradicate despite unprecedented Fed balance sheet deployment.

A Broken Monetary Transfer Mechanism

Effective monetary policy is dependent on the function of what central bankers call the Monetary Transmission Mechanism, where "central bank policy-induced changes in the nominal money stock or the short-term nominal interest rate impact real economy variables such as aggregate output and employment, through the effects this monetary policy has on interest rates, exchange rates, equity and real estate prices, bank lending, and corporate balance sheets."

Yet two monetary indicators, i.e., the money multiplier and the velocity of money clearly demonstrate that the plumbing of this monetary transmission mechanism is dysfunctional. In reality, the modern economy is driven by demand-determined credit, where money supply (M1, M2, M3) is just an arbitrary reflection of the credit circuit. As long as expectations in the real economy are not affected, increases in Fed-supplied money will simply be a swap of one zero-interest asset for another, no matter how much the monetary base increases. Thus the volume of credit is the real variable, not the size of QE or the monetary base.

Prior to 2001, the Bank of Japan repeatedly argued against quantitative easing, arguing that it would be ineffective in that the excess liquidity would simply be held by banks as excess reserves. They were forced into adopting QE between 2001 and 2006 through the greater expedient of ensuring the stability of the Japanese banking system. Japan's QE did function to stabilize the banking system, but did not have any visible favorable impact on the real economy in terms of demand for credit. Despite a massive increase in bank reserves at the BoJ and a corresponding increase in base money, lending in the Japanese banking system did not increase because: a) Japanese banks were using the excess liquidity to repair their balance sheets and b) because both the banks and their corporate clients were trying to de-lever their balance sheets.

Further, instead of creating inflation, Japan experienced deflation, and these deflationary pressures continue today amidst tepid economic growth. This process of debt de-leveraging morphing into tepid long-term, deflationary growth with rapidly rising government debt is now referred to as "Japanification".

Two Measures of Monetary Policy Effectiveness

(1) The Money Multiplier. The money multiplier is a measure of the maximum amount of commercial bank money (money in the economy) that can be created by a given unit of central bank money, i.e., the total amount of loans that commercial banks extend/create. Theoretically, it is the reciprocal of the reserve ratio, or the amount of total funds the banks are required to keep on hand to provide for possible deposit withdrawals.

Since September 2008, the quantity of reserves in the U.S. banking system has grown dramatically. Prior to the onset of the financial crisis, required reserves were about $40 billion and excess reserves were roughly $1.5 billion. Following the collapse of Lehman Brothers, excess reserves exploded, climbing to $1.6 trillion, or over 10X "normal" levels. While required reserves also over this period, this change was dwarfed by the large and unprecedented rise in excess reserves. In other words, because the monetary transfer mechanism plumbing is stopped-up, monetary stimulus merely results in a huge build-up of bank reserves held at the central bank.

 



If banks lend out close to the maximum allowed by their reserves, then the amount of commercial bank money equals the amount of central bank money provided times the money multiplier. However, if banks lend less than the maximum allowable according to their reserve ratio, they accumulate "excess" reserves, meaning the amount of commercial bank money being created is less than the central bank money being created. As is shown in the following FRED chart, the money multiplier collapsed during the 2008 financial crisis, plunging from from 1.5 to less than 0.8.

Further, there has been a consistent decline in the money multiplier from the mid-1980s prior to its collapse in 2008, which is similar to what happened in Japan. In Japan, this long-term decline in the money multiplier was attributable to a) deflationary expectations, and b) a rise in the ratio of cash in the non-financial sector. The gradual downtrend of the multiplier since 1980 has been a one-way street, reflecting a 20+ year dis-inflationary trend in the U.S. that turned into outright deflation in 2008.

 



(2) The Velocity of Money. The velocity of money is a measurement of the amount of economic activity associated with a given money supply, i.e., total Gross Domestic Product (GDP) divided by the Money Supply. This measurement also shows a marked slowdown in the amount of activity in the U.S. economy for the given amount of M2 money supply, i.e., increasingly more money is chasing the same level of output. During times of high inflation and prosperity, the velocity of money is high as the money supply is recycled from savings to loans to capital investment and consumption.

During periods of recession, the velocity of money falls as people and companies start saving and conserving. The FRED chart below also shows that the velocity of money in the U.S. has been consistently declining since before the IT bubble burst in January 2000—i.e., all the liquidity pumped into the system by the Fed from Y2K scare onward has basically been chasing its tail, leaving banks and corporates with more and more excess, unused cash that was not being re-cycled into the real economy.

 



Monetary Base Explosion Not Offsetting Collapsing Money Multiplier and Velocity

The wonkish explanation is BmV = PY, (where B = the monetary base, m = the money multiplier, V = velocity of money), PY is nominal GDP. In other words, the massive amounts of central bank monetary stimulus provided by the Fed and other central banks since the 2008 financial crisis have merely worked to offset the deflationary/recessionary impact of a collapsing money multiplier and velocity of money, but have not had a significant, lasting impact on nominal GDP or unemployment.

The only verifiable beneficial impact of QE, as in the case of Japan over a decade ago and the U.S. today is the stabilization of the banking system. But it is clear from the above measures and overall economic activity that monetary policy actions have been far less effective, and may even have been detrimental in terms of deflationary pressures by encouraging excess bank reserves. Until the money multiplier and velocity of money begin to re-expand, there will be no sustainable growth of credit, jobs, consumption, housing; i.e., real economic activity. By the same token, the speed of the recovery is dependent upon how rapidly the private sector cleanses their balance sheets of toxic assets.

QE falls into a black hole. And it leads into an – if possible even larger – black hole. Ben Bernanke and Mario Draghi have neither the power nor the tools to stop deleveraging and debt deflation. That's just a myth they, and many with them who stand to benefit from that myth, like you to continue believing. It makes it all that much easier for them.

That surge in excess bank reserves (see the second graph above) comes from QE. It is your money, everyone's money. And it does nothing to "heal" the economy you live in and depend on for your survival; it just takes away more of it all the time. That is the one thing Ben and Mario have power over: they can give money away that you will have to pay for down the line. They can lend it out to banks knowing that it will never be repaid, and not care one inch. Knowing meanwhile that you won't either, because you don't look at what's down the line, you look at today, and today everything looks fine. Except for that graph, perhaps, but hey, how many people are there who understand what it says?

One thing Ben and Mario can not do, however, is create hyperinflation. They can't even truly create any type of real inflation (which is money/credit supply x velocity vs goods and services), for that matter. They're stuck as much as you yourself are in the dynamics of this bursting bubble.

At The Automatic Earth, Nicole – Stoneleigh – Foss and I have been saying for years that deleveraging and debt deflation are an inevitable consequence of what went before and an equally inevitable precursor of anything that may come after. And I have often said that the deleveraging will be so severe that what may come after is only moderately interesting, since you won't hardly recognize your world once deflation has run its course. Apparently this is hard to understand, the hyperinflation myth just won't die. What can I say? Time to get serious.

 


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  • #6361
    skipbreakfast
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    Gotta say, Alan is quibbling with the definition for no good reason, in my mind. The end result of TAE’s forecast is the same: prices collapse. The road we travel to get there is what is at issue, and as I have also argued in the TAE comments (because I find TAE’s forecast the most persuasive on the gawd-forsaken Interweb), this road does not follow a straight line and has many distracting curves that blind us to the final destination. One of these curves is the absurd notion of “biflation”, or as another economics blogger has called it “quasi-deflation”. Neither term is helpful. They don’t tell us where we are within Kondratieff’s theory of major cycles, which lead inexorably from inflation to deflation, without being bi or quasi anything.

    Kondratieff’s six phases of a business cycle can be summarized as follows:

    Phase 1: Credit Expansion and Liquidity
    Phase 2: Commodity Prices Rise
    Phase 3: Economic Activity Grows
    Phase 4: Early Inflation
    Phase 5: Wages and Spend Slowing Down with Inflation
    Phase 6: Recession / Depression / Asset Deflation

    Note that after Phase 4 you are now headed into deflation, even while some prices “inflate” in value. The value in TAE’s view of deflation is that by only looking at prices, we completely miss the fact that we are on the deflationary, declining side of the mountain, which leads to one very unavoidable bottom way, way, way down.

    There has ALWAYS been debates over how to define inflation and deflation, Alan. Economists can’t agree, and never will. Clearly, however, the dominant economic group-think about the forces of money and credit have failed us. Many smart, progressive economists are demanding that mainstream economics change their definitions too, such as Steve Keen. Please feel free to argue with Professor Keen as well about the definition of inflation or deflation and maybe he’ll choose to call it something else entirely to satisfy your inflexibility, like, maybe call it Pluto, I don’t know. I don’t see the point of that at all, though.

    We are in deflation because the FORCES are pressuring prices DOWN, even while there can be periods of rising prices in SOME goods or services. That is deflation, and and all that is left is convincing people that is the case and waiting to see how and when the worst of it comes to pass. Coming up with new terms for such an age-old phenomenon will serve no one well and distracts us from the challenge at hand.

    Let’s please keep in mind that NEVER, in any inflationary or deflationary cycle, will you find that all prices for all things rise or fall in lockstep with the overarching trend at the same time. If you were to adopt such a rigid outlook in YOUR definition of inflation or deflation, we would never, ever be in either one. That isn’t useful at all either. So maybe you’re the one who needs to come up with a new word for what you’re trying to describe. How about “life”? Fact: we are either heading to one or the other macro-direction, even while there is fractal noise on the journey, making the call murky UNTIL AFTER THE FACT. I have no interest in sitting passively until after the fact when so much is at stake, leaving myself ill-prepared for the worst of either trend.

    So even while some prices may be falling, we can still be in an inflationary cycle, and should take certain precautions. On the other hand, we can see prices rising and still be at the edge of a deflationary collapse. Just because TAE has had the good sense to go deep into the failure of modern economics and find the real roots that presage infaltion/deflation doesn’t mean they are now required to call it something different for the sake of simplistic mainstream journalism, or to cater to Bernanke’s hopes that people will read an inflationary trend and start shopping, or to appease a cadre of failed Post-Keynesian economists.

    Deflation means the forces in play are pressuring prices DOWN, even while the prices might be momentarily buoyed up. If you think that the pressures are the opposite, and will send prices sky high, well then, you are actually calling for inflation. A whole other kettle fish. And entirely different argument. Go ahead and write about that on your blog. I’d be curious to read your reasoning.

    #6362
    jal
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    Something I’ve learned from the blogs.

    If you spend money that you don’t have, because you borrowed it or printed it, it will appear as if you are rich and prices will go up to take your money. ( Inflation)

    We have been spending money that we don’t have for 30 years.
    (inflation)

    I recall $1,000/month gave a life style that today $100,000/month does not.

    I think that we are in a RESET mode.

    The super committees, (rich people), spent Billions of dollars on the election so that they would be sitting at the table to make sure that any future legislation would not be harmful to their interest.

    If the gov. lowers spending and gives less to the spenders, (poor), then there will be less profits from that source of income.

    The rich will have to raise prices to maintain profit margin for their “New yatch fund”.

    If the gov. tries to reduce loopholes in the tax code then there will be less profits from that source of income.

    The rich will have to raise prices to maintain their “New yatch fund”.

    If the gov. increases taxes on the rich then they will raise prices to maintain their “New yatch fund”.

    See… its nice to be rich … you get to write the new legislation and can keep your “New yatch fund” growing.

    #6370

    The blunt definition of inflation as meaning only rising prices is not “conventional”. It’s a recent development. Prior to more modern times, devaluation and depreciation were used for what inflation is now used for. And for good reason.

    The way inflation is presently defined serves simply to make and keep people stupid. That may not have been the intention behind the change in definition, but it certainly fits a purpose.

    Using the term inflation without a direct connection to the size of the money supply makes zero sense. We can all understand that rising prices in a rising money supply will both originate in, and lead to, a completely different situation than rising prices in a falling money supply. Yet, the “stupid definition” makes it impossible to see this. Which is exactly what makes it stupid.

    Likewise, talking about inflation without establishing an immediate link to the velocity of money makes no sense. It doesn’t mean anything, and therefore keeps you ignorant. Again, we can all get that price rises in a slowing velocity of money are not identical to those in an accelerating one.

    That is why both the money supply and the velocity of money must necessarily be part of any serious definition of inflation and deflation. Without them, no such definition serves any purpose. Other than keeping people stupid, that is.

    Of course it would be much easier for Nicole and I to go along with what too many others say. The fact that what they say is so nonsensical, however, makes that impossible for us. Because we’re not here to keep our readers stupid; we’re here to add to their understanding, not to subtract from it.

    I’ve written about this topic a hundred times if I wrote about it once, and there’s simply not enough time to keep on regurgitating it. That’s why we have Archives and Primers sections. But I’ll give you one example that I noticed this week (I’ve addressed it before) and that stands out:

    The press here in Holland, where I’m staying for a few months, reported that inflation was up, and that was largely because VAT had been raised, I think from 19% to 21%. That is blatant nonsense for a simple reason: It would mean that any government that is worried about inflation can solve the problem with one simple action: lowering taxes. Even if it would double the money supply at the same time. And spend it at breakneck speed into the real economy. If that is not clear enough as an explanation for the folly of the definition of inflation as rising prices only, I don’t know what is.

    #6374
    jal
    Participant

    That is why both the money supply and the velocity of money must necessarily be part of any serious definition of inflation and deflation. Without them, no such definition serves any purpose. Other than keeping people stupid, that is.

    ilargi, I do understand what you have been saying. Its not just price.

    I was trying to point out, that this time there are some rich people who have a strong influence on the prices we pay for goods. This was not present or was not obvious in an inflationary economy.
    Lets be clear on who is getting the most and benefiting the most with the 46% overspending.

    As Karl been constantly repeating, the free shit army won again.

    (bankers, insurance, ponzi players)

    We can all understand that rising prices in a rising money supply will both originate in, and lead to, a completely different situation than rising prices in a falling money supply.

    Some people are enjoying a rising money supply and can modify their action to keep the money flowing to their coffers.

    The majority of the people are helpless and are facing a falling money supply and rising prices.
    The number of people on food stamps are the obvious witnesses.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-11-10/foodstamps-surge-most-one-year-new-all-time-record-delayed-release
    Foodstamps Surge By Most In One Year To New All Time Record, In Delayed Release

    One glance at the number reveals why: at 47.1 million, this was not only a new all time record, but the monthly increase of 420,947 from July was the biggest monthly increase in one year.

    Being on foodstamp does not make you a winner when you are in a deflation or an inflation environment.

    #6375

    “Some people are enjoying a rising money supply and can modify their action to keep the money flowing to their coffers.

    The majority of the people are helpless and are facing a falling money supply and rising prices. “

    Money supply is not a term used for individuals and/or groups of people. It applies only to entire nations/societies. Hence, yours is not a valid picture.

    #6385
    jal
    Participant

    Inflation is a tax on ONLY those who cannot increase their income to be equal or greater the rate of inflation.

    Those would include people on foodstamp, people getting no raises or less raises than inflation and those with income/savings earning an interest that is less than inflation.

    If you want to keep your standard of living then you have two option.
    1. Cut your wasteful spending
    2. Increase your income.
    If you cannot do either then …

    Deflation devalues ONLY assets of the people who are disposing/selling their assets.

    If you are on foodstamps, you got no assets and no money to obtain cheap assets that are for sale.

    I’m not going to quibble with the definitions.

    The effects of inflation or deflations will impact individuals differently depending on their position on the economic scale.

    Our economic system has not been structured for the greatest good for the greatest number of people.

    There are very few sister Theresa and none of them are in position to get rid of our system and to start a new better system.

    #6408
    jal
    Participant

    I’m trying to get an understanding of what is happening and what could be happening to the USA economy.
    The following links seem to give an accurate picture.
    Budgets are proposed income and expenses.
    “The Cliff” is a proposed budget.
    I think that it would be better if we thought of a daddy telling 10 children that they are spending more money than daddy is making.
    Nobody will volunteer to reduce their spending.
    Since making more income will not happen,
    Who or what will force the spending cuts?
    Should we ask the Greeks?

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=213787

    The “New Normal” In Pictures

    https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2012/11/Fiscal%20Cliff%20Graphic.jpg

    #6665
    Anonymous
    Guest

    Deflation. Oh my goodness. In terms of what? In terms of gold (and as what the dollar used to be in 1929–gold), we certainly do have deflation over the past 12-years. If food were money…yes, there’s deflation. But in terms of fiat paper money or promises to pay nothing? Look..once I see my food prices coming down, then I can chart a trend that’s worth considering. Since the 1940s, I think we’ve only had two years of non-inflation. So…deflation? Do you think that the FED and its IMF master will allow it? If they do..then what do they do when the black market or OTC barter on a grand scale replaces these institutions that the Rothschild dynasty has worked so hard to put in place over the past 100+ years? Not too hard these days with computers. Do they care if a quasi gold-money or bit coin-like system on steroids replace their unreliable system?? Already, OPEC members are privately dealing in gold and palletized cash to bypass the oil quotas. If deflation is to occur (in terms of paper promises to pay nothing), it is because the IMF/BIS masters of the universe intend it. Hey look…keystrokes..it’s that easy. Pretend I work at the Fed as a typist of numbers.. $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. How much is that? Hell if I know, but I just “un-deleveraged” the entire solar system. Heck, might as well be the entire galaxy, with mere keystrokes, an easy method to MIMIC wealth creation.

    #6712
    SteveB
    Participant

    Just learned that his majesty is coming to town:

    http://www.fordschool.umich.edu/events/calendar/1447/

    Don’t know whether I’ll bother to get a ticket, watch the webstream, or chop kindling.

    #6915
    Rapala
    Participant

    Hello everyone – 1st post. (and sorry for bumping an oldish article but it seemed most relevant one)

    I have read and reread this fascinating article to try and make sure I am understanding it fully. It really is a critical issue for me as most of my savings are in gold and I am trying to decide whether to get into cash or not.

    My understanding from it is that all the trillions the FED is printing will do nothing to spur inflation because a) banks are just using the money to increase their reserves as they do not have the appetite for risky loans and b) consumers are wary themselves of taking out new loans and are currently trying to pay off debt.

    This means that all this money has the same effect as if they printed it and then just buried it. ie. close to nothing

    However the thing I don’t understand is that this has been going on for 5 years and yet we are still seeing inflation. This article on zerohedge shows how money supply expansion does indeed have a matching cpi correlation.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-08-10/inflation-m2-and-velocity-money

    So is this trend just temporary or is there another way to explain rising cpi index?

    #6917
    SteveB
    Participant

    Rapala post=6626 wrote: So is this trend just temporary or is there another way to explain rising cpi index?

    Hi Rapala,

    If inflation is happening at all, it’s temporary. Deflation has been underway for more than a decade. Look at a graph of any financial asset in terms of gold, i.e., “real money”, relative to dollar-denominated prices in order to see this. CPI rising does not equal inflation, technically speaking. It might help to read Nicole’s articles on deflation/inflation.

    The Dow topped, S&P is topping today, and the NASDAQ is only a week or so behind. European markets are already headed downward. PM are headed generally downward as well, but they aren’t likely to lose as much value as financial assets, as I understand it (won’t reach 0, in any case).

    Everything’s relative when it comes to prices, so your gold will look good from one angle but not another as events unfold. For the next few years or so, cash will be king (as Nicole has repeatedly informed us).

    #6918
    Nicole Foss
    Moderator

    Rapala,

    Prices rise as a lagging indicator of changes in the money supply. The price rises we are seeing were baked in the cake thanks to earlier inflation. IMO (on balance of probabilities as always) we are about to see a major shift from ‘heroic’ attempts at reflation to accelerating monetary contraction. Insiders are selling at a time when we have seen an unnatural lack of volatility in the markets for some time. Sentiment is at an optimistic extreme. These are all powerful sell signals. Once the markets turn, liquidity contracts on loss of confidence. Prices will follow to the downside, albeit not immediately. Affordability will keep getting worse however, as purchasing power will be falling faster than price (not because money will be losing value – quite the opposite in fact – but because almost no one will have any). Cash is king in a deflation. Preserving capital as liquidity allows you to preserve your freedom of action. It amounts to holding on to a handful of choices to make later, at a time when you have a lot more opportunities and a lot more information as to what would be the appropriate choices to make.

    #6919
    Rapala
    Participant

    Thank you for your responses Steve and Nicole, you have greatly helped in my decision making.

    #6941
    alan2102
    Participant

    SteveB post=6628 wrote: [quote=Rapala post=6626]So is this trend just temporary or is there another way to explain rising cpi index?

    Hi Rapala,

    If inflation is happening at all, it’s temporary. Deflation has been underway for more than a decade. Look at a graph of any financial asset in terms of gold, i.e., “real money”, relative to dollar-denominated prices in order to see this.

    Defined THAT way, then yes, deflation certainly does prevail! Prices are collapsing in terms of gold and silver. Have been for the past 12 years — and will probably continue to do so for at least another 5 years. In terms of dollars, it is a different story. The only thing that dollars buy more of is real estate.

    The Dow topped

    We shall see. Not to over-hype Nadeem Walayat (marketoracle.co.uk), who I’ve mentioned here a few times recently, but he is a smart cookie* and quite accurate, generally; he says that the Dow will take a hit this summer, perhaps back to 12,000, then up up and away to new highs in 2014, possibly as high as 20,000 by 2017: https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article38931.html

    Yes, I know, not the usual fare here at TAE! But who knows? This is a crazy world, for sure. It will be interesting to watch it all unfold. I will bump this thread on a yearly basis and we’ll see whose predictions are most accurate.

    PM are headed generally downward as well, but they aren’t likely to lose as much value as financial assets, as I understand it (won’t reach 0, in any case).

    Won’t reach zero? Are you sure? 😉

    …………………………..

    * smart enough to publish Ilargi’s stuff, so that has to count for something, right?

    #6942
    alan2102
    Participant

    Rapala post=6626 wrote: most of my savings are in gold

    Smart person.

    You are rich, but the world has not quite recognized it yet. It will, soon.

    Be sure it is physical metal.

    #7001
    alan2102
    Participant

    alan2102 post=6652 wrote: Not to over-hype Nadeem Walayat (marketoracle.co.uk), who I’ve mentioned here a few times recently, but he is a smart cookie* and quite accurate, generally; he says that the Dow will take a hit this summer, perhaps back to 12,000, then up up and away to new highs in 2014, possibly as high as 20,000 by 2017: https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article38931.html

    In case anyone is interested, Walayat just released a greatly expanded version of this writeup in pdf form, available here:
    https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article39189.html
    direct link to the pdf, which may or may not work (without signing up for the newsletter):
    https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/pdf-d/Stocks-Stealth-Bull-Market-2013-by-Nadeem-Walayat.pdf

    Again, it will be more than a little interesting to see just what transpires over the next 5 years. Inflation? Deflation? Stagflation? Collapse? Business as usual? Who knows? I’ll bump this thread yearly at least for an update.

    #7361
    SteveB
    Participant

    SteveB post=6628 wrote: [quote=Rapala post=6626]So is this trend just temporary or is there another way to explain rising cpi index?

    The Dow topped, S&P is topping today, and the NASDAQ is only a week or so behind. European markets are already headed downward. PM are headed generally downward as well, but they aren’t likely to lose as much value as financial assets, as I understand it (won’t reach 0, in any case).

    That was obviously a premature call. However, the market is now heading downward. Tomorrow should begin a third wave, which is likely to be steep.

    #7377
    SteveB
    Participant

    SteveB post=7074 wrote: [quote=SteveB post=6628][quote=Rapala post=6626]So is this trend just temporary or is there another way to explain rising cpi index?

    The Dow topped, S&P is topping today, and the NASDAQ is only a week or so behind. European markets are already headed downward. PM are headed generally downward as well, but they aren’t likely to lose as much value as financial assets, as I understand it (won’t reach 0, in any case).

    That was obviously a premature call. However, the market is now heading downward. Tomorrow should begin a third wave, which is likely to be steep.

    And now yet another curveball: looks like this has been an undershoot of a fourth wave, now heading up in wave one of five (since a new high was reached in the S&P 500, negating the second wave possibility).

    Watching the stock market in this context has been very interesting and a lesson in patience, among other things. It seems that the knowledge of what’s to come (eventually—soon enough, but not necessarily immediately) leads to a bias toward the scenario that would play out earliest.

    I’m also wondering if the additional time to prepare for the reversal will make a difference for anyone who hasn’t initiated changes yet.

    #7382
    alan2102
    Participant

    How d’ya like that DJIA, hitting record high after record high, week in, week out, for months? That 85 billion per month that Benny and the Ink Jets been puttin out ain’t fer nuthin’, ya know! 😉

    https://investing.money.msn.com/investments/stock-charts/?symbol=%24US%3aDJIA&pt=4

    #7383

    How d’ya like that DJIA, hitting record high after record high, week in, week out, for months? That 85 billion per month that Benny and the Ink Jets been puttin out ain’t fer nuthin’, ya know!

    It’s called zombie money, and there’s no better way to put it then caveat emptor.

    #7384
    Golden Oxen
    Participant

    ilargi post=7096 wrote:

    How d’ya like that DJIA, hitting record high after record high, week in, week out, for months? That 85 billion per month that Benny and the Ink Jets been puttin out ain’t fer nuthin’, ya know!

    It’s called zombie money, and there’s no better way to put it then caveat emptor.

    For which one? The owner of the zombie money, or the buyer of the stocks fleeing the zombies?

    #7385
    g-minor
    Participant

    In these times, all emptors have got to cavere.

    g

    #7540
    alan2102
    Participant

    Wow!

    Everybody is being proved wrong.

    Nadeem Walayat:
    https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40358.html
    “No one saw Dow 15,000+ coming in this time frame, not the bears, nor the bulls (me included)….
    I did not see Dow 15,105 coming in this time frame. Instead I had engineered my portfolio by mid March down to about 18% net Long in anticipation for a probable correction of a good 12% or so from Mid March to Mid August to accumulate into, Instead the market as of writing has since risen by a good 5%.
    The key to successful investing is not to lose money when one is wrong, and that can only be achieved through understanding the underlying forces at work which have remained constant for the duration of the stocks stealth bull market of the past 5 years, and that constant is one of stocks being leveraged to money and debt printing inflation consequences.
    Whilst the mainstream media will be pointing to an improving U.S. economy as an explanation, I will instead reiterate the real reason that I have repeatedly stated for at least the past 4 years is that asset prices tend to be leveraged to inflation with sentiment driven prices oscillating around the inflation mega-trend (which is exponential) between extremes of over bought and over sold states.
    And there is nothing, NOTHING to suggest that this fundamental structure of our economic and financial universe is about to change any time soon. Instead everything points to far more inflation during the next 5 years then we have witnessed during the past 5 years as illustrated by the following graphs….” [images at link]

    and, interestingly:
    “Whilst I am getting a number of requests for detailed analysis of the stock market, I have to remind readers that the stocks bull market is a 5 year old trend. Instead my focus for a near year has been on the NEXT trend – The HOUSING Markets, which is where I have been shifting most of my wealth into.”

    Hmmmm.

    #7545
    gurusid
    Participant

    Hi Folks,

    Interesting “Aftershock” ‘book’ promotion video – but their take on the inflationary pressure from all the QE does make some sense – they predict inflation (but not hyper) in the range of 10-100% in terms of interest rates due to dollar devaluation :huh: that will then cause massive asset price deflation in housing, stocks and bonds. At least I think that is what they are saying. They also predicted the 2008 crash and a lot of what they say sounds similar to Stoneleigh.

    L,
    Sid.

    #7561
    alan2102
    Participant

    Now THIS is an interesting thing that could have a profound impact on stock indexes going forward:

    https://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article40365.html
    How to Profit from the Latest Desperate Moves By the World’s Central Banks
    Stock-Markets / Stock Markets 2013 May 09, 2013
    By: Money_Morning
    Ben Gersten writes: You already know central banks have been boosting markets through loose monetary policies the past few years.
    Now it looks like they’ll move markets in another way – by pouring record amounts of money into buying equities.
    The stunning revelation comes in a survey by Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc (NYSE ADR: RBS) and CentralBanking.com. The survey reveals that 23% of the 60 central bank respondents are buying stocks or plan to do so in the next five years.
    In fact, this marked the first time in the survey’s nine-year history central bankers were asked whether they bought or planned to buy stocks.
    While it’s not the first time central banks have ever bought equities, it is the most aggressive purchasing they’ve done.
    “This time around, they’re not just throwing in the kitchen sink; they’re throwing in the garage, a couch, the guitar, the dog, anything they can get their hands on,” said Money Morning Chief Investment Strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald.
    [continues at the link]

    #7563
    gurusid
    Participant

    HI Folks,

    There is a dangerous infection called QE that is going around, causing painful swellings in all sorts of asset prices; for a recent in depth analysis go here:

    QEuriouser and QEuriouser… is this how the QE story ends?

    Interesting piece from the [url=https://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2013/2/21/the-fed-is-blowing-a-dangerous-bank-deposit-bubble.html]Testosteron Pit

    on how the QE experiment might end. It highlights the huge deposit bubble that has arisen as cash has failed to make it to the broader ‘economy’ and how this is being used to blow all sorts of bubbles apart from the deposit bubble itself…[/url]

    Check out this from Zero Hedge too regarding a complete loss of trust in the system:

    Sorry

    What I can say with absolute certainty is that I have lost a lot of faith and trust in the system. And I am not the only one. This sentiment is running at all-time highs amongst business leaders (their collective in-actions prove it) and guys on the street. It is both sides of the barbell and middle that are upset. Often it’s one or the other, but not all three. This time it’s not at an external state, it’s directed inwards. That is a tough problem to solve. Jingoism is not the answer either as we already tried that.

    If there is no faith in the system, it has a really hard time working. And I mean real underlying faith and trust in the system, as opposed to the confidence born from economic steroid injections or entitlements. These are valid notions, but as a point of clarity I am talking about a something different. There also is a subtle but important distinction between faith and trust versus confidence. Faith and trust are longer term and more powerful concepts.

    Mr Greenspan we have seen where valuing assets solely on the basis of current rates got us. If we should do that, baseball cards and chewing gum would also be great investments today. My suspicion is from here baseball cards and chewing gum will hold their value over time better than the typical company trading at 15x earnings derived from profit margins that are twice its average levels.

    The important similarity to both profit cycles is that they were driven by credit growth that supported corporate revenues above what consumer income alone would have.

    (bold in orig)

    L,
    Sid.

    #7564

    The survey reveals that 23% of the 60 central bank respondents are buying stocks or plan to do so in the next five years.

    In fact, this marked the first time in the survey’s nine-year history central bankers were asked whether they bought or planned to buy stocks.

    While it’s not the first time central banks have ever bought equities, it is the most aggressive purchasing they’ve done.

    Hmm. Less than a quarter of respondents say they might buy stocks by 2018. Unless perhaps the world is not the exact same anymore by then, in which case they might decide otherwise. Or their successors. Whichever comes first.

    But fear not, Money Morning Chief Investment Strategist Keith Fitz-Gerald will nudge you towards fields of glory and riches. Well, he first, then you.

    Just goes to show that in the world of empty statements, too, there are one-eyed kings.

    #7565
    Rapala
    Participant

    Regarding the ‘QEuriouser’ Article above, it states that loans are are increasing at 4% since 2011(before this, it was negative).

    I’m confused how this ties in with decreasing money velocity which as I understood is key to the whole deflation argument. If loans are increasing, surely this means money is increasingly being used to ‘buy stuff’ which would increase money velocity?

    #7566
    gurusid
    Participant

    Hi Rapala,

    Regarding the ‘QEuriouser’ Article above, it states that loans are are increasing at 4% since 2011(before this, it was negative).

    I’m confused how this ties in with decreasing money velocity which as I understood is key to the whole deflation argument. If loans are increasing, surely this means money is increasingly being used to ‘buy stuff’ which would increase money velocity?

    The way I read it was the article was stating that loan growth was matching what ever economic growth (GDP) there was of the order of a few percent. But given that most of these new loans are still going into big ticket items such as homes and autos, which means that most of the ‘loan’ just moves from one bank balance to another. Real wages are falling, and so is credit. The real money that goes around between the butcher the baker and the candlestick maker is dwindling at an increasing rate, where as zombie money given to bail out banks via QE is just floating in their ballooning deposits, so they’re ‘investing’ it in all sorts of things including stocks and all manner of dubious items to make a bit on the side instead of just loaning it out, though to be fair when the economy is just not growing like it used to, coupled with people paying down debt and becoming risk averse, where is the demand as stated above. Again check out Zero Hedge – they have some up to the minute detail on what’s happening as it all unfolds.

    L,
    Sid.

    #7568

    Regarding the ‘QEuriouser’ Article above, it states that loans are are increasing at 4% since 2011(before this, it was negative).

    First off, the ‘QEuriouser’ was not a TAE article, but something posted by one of our readers.

    I’m confused how this ties in with decreasing money velocity which as I understood is key to the whole deflation argument. If loans are increasing, surely this means money is increasingly being used to ‘buy stuff’ which would increase money velocity?

    Skimming thru Lee Adler’s piece, I see he says loans increase, but doesn’t specify which loans he’s referring to. That makes it hard to draw any conclusions at all.

    I’m sure you also noticed his repeated remarks on pensioners and consumers cutting back on spending, so how all in all you see money velocity increasing I don’t really know.

    #7569
    Rapala
    Participant

    yeh sorry didn’t mean to imply it was a TAE article. I was trying to understand how increased loans still mean lower money velocity which gurusid has answered. (thank you gurusid. )

    #7571
    alan2102
    Participant

    ilargi post=7284 wrote:
    Hmm. Less than a quarter of respondents say they might buy stocks by 2018. Unless perhaps the world is not the exact same anymore by then, in which case they might decide otherwise. Or their successors. Whichever comes first.

    I would be skeptical too, except for two things:

    1. Central bank money is BIG money, so 23% is a lot.

    2. More importantly is what the 23% represents elsewhere. The point is that very conservative big money, LIKE central bank money but not limited to central banks, is going into equities to escape the extremely low returns elsewhere. This cannot help but be an influence on things. Below is an example of what I’m talking about — big university endowments getting out of treasuries, looking for yield, sometimes in equities. Surely big pension funds, insurance companies, etc., are moving in the same direction. Big, conservative money is looking for a return that bonds are not providing. That’s the point.

    https://srsroccoreport.com/universities-cutting-their-u-s-treasury-exposure-in-a-big-way/universities-cutting-their-u-s-treasury-exposure-in-a-big-way/
    University Endowments Cutting Their U.S. Treasury Exposure In a Big Way
    [snip]
    Princeton’s endowment converted its entire U.S. Treasury holdings to cash while Duke’s $5.5 billion endowment shifted out of its U.S. Treasuries and into high yielding stocks and emerging market securities. Futhermore, Cornell’s endowment reduced its treasury securities to only 3%.

    #7572
    jal
    Participant

    Yp!
    Endowment funds.

    They are going to lose big.

    Expectations … promises made … unreal expectations

    That’s what happens when someone is managing someone else’s money.

    There is no accountability.

    #7573

    Alan, you’re not paying attention, the survey is an empty air chamber devoid of any meaning or substance.

    First, there’s no use in gathering info on what anyone MIGHT do by 2018. I might buy a bridge in Brooklyn by then. Or I can at least say I might.

    But the essence is of course in this sentence:

    In fact, this marked the first time in the survey’s nine-year history central bankers were asked whether they bought or planned to buy stocks.

    They may have been buying stocks all along, they may have been buying far more than they’re now “planning” to do. Nobody knows, because nobody ever bothered to ask.

    And all this is assuming answers are truthful, which in this world is to put it kindly not guaranteed.

    While it’s not the first time central banks have ever bought equities, it is the most aggressive purchasing they’ve done.

    This line tops it all off: where does the author, Mr. Fitz-Gerald, get that knowledge from? He doesn’t say. It can’t be from the survey, because central banks were never before asked whether they either bought stocks in the past or planned to do so in the future.

    Ergo: Mr. Fitz-Gerald simply makes it up as he goes along, confident his readers won’t scrutinize his words too closely, because they’re too focused on what he suggests, central banks buying stocks, but doesn’t actually say.

    You and I don’t know if central banks will buy stocks, and neither does Mr. Fitz-Gerald. He talks his book.

    #7575
    davefairtex
    Participant

    My guess is, the current US equity market buoyancy is about significant money flows from overseas. I say this because at least lately, while the SPX goes up, the US dollar is also going up too. If you imagine that world money is a zero sum game (long term it isn’t, but in the short term it is) for the US market to rise, that money has to “come from” somewhere else to bid the prices higher.

    Could be cash, bonds, or international flows.

    My claim is, money is coming from Japan and Europe. (I’d think China too, but that’s not supported by currency movements).

    This tallies with Armstrong’s claims that money will flow from periphery to core as things get worse. Its not evidence of hyperinflation, its evidence of capital flight.

    In the modern age, inflation is caused by private borrowing (i.e. an increase in bank credit) which largely isn’t happening right now. Government printing such as it is blows an asset bubble in the place where it ends up going – namely bonds – and then ends up parking in Excess Reserves which have zero velocity, hence the declining M2V.

    Excess Reserves (Base Money) aren’t any more powerful than regular money because the Reserve theory of central banking isn’t correct.

    Its risky right now to attempt to “front-run” central banks (assuming they are buying) and buy equities at their all-time highs. Same thing with bonds at the tag end of a 30 year bull market. Just my opinion.

    #7583
    gurusid
    Participant

    Hi Rapala,

    This latest post here you might find of interest:

    :ohmy:

    L,
    Sid.

    #7587

    The notion that inflation is not going to happen is slowly sinking in, but the reason why is not at all understood yet. Joe Weisenthal quotes the reasons inflation hasn’t come, offered by the incomparably clueless Hale Stewart of Daily Kos fame:

    The Most Incorrect Prediction Of The Past 5 Years


    • Slack demand from China.
    • The US oil boom (abundance produces the opposite of inflation).
    • Slow growth (especially in Europe).
    • The end of the commodity boom.
    • Ongoing reduction of high household debt.

    Bottom line. The big, ongoing story is the death of inflation all around the world.

    It’s all simple nonsense, of course. These fine analysts now tell themselves they were right all along in predicting (hyper)inflation, but something unexpected, unforeseeable got in the way. In reality, the behemoth of debt we built up made deflation inevitable from the get go. It hasn’t hit us full on yet because of the empty credit measures (QE et al) central bankers try on, but it has zero chance of reversing the debt deleveraging. It will just make it worse. I wrote this particular article 7 months a go, buy Nicole and I have been writing about this for 6-7 years now.

    #7594
    gurusid
    Participant

    Hi Illarghi,

    It hasn’t hit us full on yet because of the empty credit measures (QE et al) central bankers try on, but it has zero chance of reversing the debt deleveraging. It will just make it worse. I wrote this particular article 7 months a go, buy Nicole and I have been writing about this for 6-7 years now.

    I hear ya:

    Now, which web site has been banging on about this for years already…

    Aka TAE. :cheer:

    L,
    Sid.

    #7597
    gurusid
    Participant

    Hi Folks,

    Here is a definitive description of how inflation/deflation is linked directly to credit expansion and contraction:

    From:
    Inflation: an Expansion of Counterfeit Credit
    © Jan 3, 2012 Keith Weiner

    “…Now let’s look at counterfeit credit. By the criteria I offered above, it is counterfeit because there is no one who has produced more than he has consumed, or he does not knowingly or willing forego the use of his savings to extend credit.

    First, is the example where no one has produced a surplus. A good example of this is when the Federal Reserve creates currency to buy a Treasury bond. On their books, they create a liability for the currency issued and an asset for the corresponding bond purchase. Fed monetization of bonds is counterfeit credit, by its very nature. Every time the Fed expands its balance sheet, it is inflation.

    It is no exaggeration to say that the very purpose of the Fed is to create inflation. When real capital becomes more scarce, and thus its owners become more reluctant to lend it (especially at low interest rates), the Fed’s official role is to be the “lender of last resort”. Their goal is to continue to expand credit against the ever-increasing market forces that demand credit contraction.

    And of course, all counterfeit credit would go to default, unless the creditor has strong collateral or another lever to force the debtor to repay. Thus the Fed must act to continue to extend and pretend. Counterfeit credit must never end up where it’s “pay or else”. It must be “rolled”. Debtors must be able to borrow anew to repay the old debts—forever. The job of the Fed is to make this possible (for as long as possible).

    (bold added)

    And:

    …I repeat my definition of inflation and add my definition of deflation:

    Inflation is an expansion of counterfeit credit.

    Deflation is a forcible contraction of counterfeit credit.

    Inflation is only possible by the initiation of the use of physical force or fraud by the government, the central bank, and the privileged banks they enfranchise. Deflation is only possible from, and is indeed the inevitable outcome of, inflation. Whenever credit is extended with no means or ability to repay, that credit is certain to eventually become a crisis that threatens to harm the creditor. That the creditor may have collateral or other means to force the debtor to take the pain and hold the creditor harmless does not change the nature of deflation.

    Unless I am much mistaken this is similar (with the exception of the ‘force’) to what Illarghi and Stoneleigh have been saying since the inception of this site… a long time ago in a galaxy far far away… 😆

    Default and crash is inevitable, with concomitant deflation. :woohoo:

    L,
    Sid.

    #7600
    Nassim
    Participant

    Yesterday evening, I went to a meeting of the Melbourne Mining Club. Short presentations were being made by three tiny mining companies that few have ever heard of. I was expecting 20-30 attendees. In fact, 350 people booked and almost all of them showed up. I was amazed – as were the organisers. All the attendees (10% women) were dressed in dark suits – I was wearing a light grey sports jacket. Around 20 of them were Chinese/Asians.

    The shares of all these companies are currently being severely hammered. At the same time, Commonwealth Bank of Australia is doing splendidly well and is worth around $110 billion as is Macquarie Bank – the four big banks are worth around $20,000 dollars per inhabitant of Australia. Not bad.

    Here are these 3 companies:

    Altona Mining Limitedshare price
    World Titanium Resourcesshare price
    Orion Gold NLshare price

    It is clear from the charts for these 3 companies – when compared to their deposits and prospects – that we are in severe deflation in the mineral resources business. The contrast with the world of delusion and finance cannot be greater IMHO.

    The fact that 350 people took the trouble to attend this meeting suggests that not everyone is brainwashed by the mainstream media. These people want real returns on their savings.

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