Apr 222020
 


DPC Yard of tenement, Manhattan, New York City 1900

 

In US COVID19 Can No Longer Be Listed As Primary Cause Of Death (Salon)
England, Wales COVID19 Death Toll 41% Higher Than Government Figures (FT)
UN: Coronavirus Pandemic ‘Will Cause Famine Of Biblical Proportions’ (G.)
Missouri Is Suing China Over Coronavirus Impacts (CNN)
CDC’s Failed Coronavirus Tests Were Tainted With Coronavirus (AT)
CDC Chief Warns Second COVID-19 Wave May Be Worse (R.)
The COVID-Crisis And Leader Approval Ratings (ZH)
15 Deaths In US Airline Industry In 9 Days Linked To Coronavirus (LAT)
No Screening For Passengers Arriving At Heathrow From Virus Hotspots (DM)
The Risks Of Relying On China For Critical Medical Supplies (SCMP)
Donna Shalala Failed To Disclose Stock Sales In 2019 (MH)
Lawsuit Claims 10 Big Banks Rigged Market For ‘Odd-Lot’ US Corporate Bonds (R.)

 

 

• U.S. reports 37,519 new cases of coronavirus and 2,707 new deaths.
Total of 824,889 cases and 45,042 deaths

• nearly 40,000 new cases reported between Monday 8:30pm local time, and Tuesday at the same time – Johns Hopkins University

• Reported US coronavirus deaths:
8 weeks ago: 0 deaths
7 weeks ago: 9 deaths
6 weeks ago: 31 deaths
5 weeks ago: 111 deaths
4 weeks ago: 704 deaths
3 weeks ago: 3,834 deaths
2 weeks ago: 12,895 deaths
1 week ago: 26,033 deaths
Right now: 45,039 deaths

• Cases-Top 12 States
New York: 251,690
New Jersey: 92,387
Massachusetts: 41,199
Pennsylvania: 34,528
California: 33,261
Illinois: 33,059
Michigan: 32,967
Florida: 27,495
Louisiana: 24,854
Connecticut: 20,360
Texas: 20,196
Georgia: 19,881

• 33 workers at meat processing plant in Minnesota test positive for coronavirus. Plant closed indefinitely.

 

 

Cases 2,573,471 (+ 74,991 from yesterday’s 2,498,480)

Deaths 178,558 (+ 7,225 from yesterday’s 171,333)

 

 

 

From Worldometer yesterday evening -before their day’s close-

 

 

From Worldometer – NOTE: among Active Cases, Serious or Critical fell to 3%. Among Closed Cases, Deaths have fallen to 20%

 

 

From SCMP:

 

 

From COVID19Info.live: Note: Turkey, Russia, UK are the biggest risers

 

 

 

 

What a relief! Now the US won’t top 1 million cases in April, but only in May. Then again, at 40,000 cases a day like the past 24 hours, forget about that too

In US COVID19 Can No Longer Be Listed As Primary Cause Of Death (Salon)

George Kelder is CEO and executive director of the New Jersey State Funeral Directors Association, whose members are responsible for dealing with bodies at the hospital, congregant care facilities and private residences. He warns that if we rely solely on official numbers carried on the TV, we may not fully appreciate the lethality of the virus, and indeed may overestimate our success in combating it. In a phone interview, Kelder confirmed that on April 15 New Jersey’s Office of Vital Statistics and Registry, in accordance with the CDC’s National Vital Statistics System, had ordered that deaths of confirmed or suspected COVID-19 patients should no longer be reported with that disease as the immediate cause of death.

“The guidance, available on the New Jersey’s Electronic Death Registration System website, states that COVID-19 is not considered an immediate cause of death and should NOT be reported by the medical certifier on the first line of section 36a (CAUSE OF DEATH, PART I) of the death certificate,” the association advised its members. “Instead, the immediate cause of death, such as “Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome,” should be listed on the first line. COVID-19 should be listed LAST in Section 36a after the immediate cause(s) has been listed.” “During the five weeks of these fatalities, New Jersey physicians had been instructed to used COVID-19, Coronavirus 19 or ‘pending COVID-19’ as the primary cause of death,” Kelder said.


“Last week, because of changes on the national level, the primary cause of death can no longer be COVID-19. It can be a secondary cause or a consequence of the primary cause of death. But the primary cause of death must be something other than the virus itself.” Kelder observed that pervasive lack of testing, along with this bureaucratic gamesmanship around how COVID-19 deaths are to be classified, could mean that the numbers being used officially “would not be equal to what is happening on the street. “My concern is that we will be getting a false sense of the fatalities based on an administrative and statistical change in reporting,” he said.

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This happens everywhere.

England, Wales COVID19 Death Toll 41% Higher Than Government Figures (FT)

The true death toll from coronavirus in England and Wales up to April 10 was about 41% higher than the UK government’s daily update, according to data released by the country’s Office of National Statistics (ONS). The daily updates on the government’s website only include deaths in hospitals — not other locations, including hospices, care homes and private residences. They also don’t account for the lag in reporting some deaths. The weekly data released by the ONS records deaths where coronavirus is mentioned on the death certificate — even if only suspected. The latest ONS data for deaths up to April 10 (but recorded by April 18) is 13,121.


By comparison, the ONS says the corresponding figure released on the UK government website for England and Wales was 9,288. That’s a difference of 41%. The data also shows the number of coronavirus-related deaths in nursing homes has almost doubled in the five weeks that the ONS has been recording Covid-19 statistics. The total number of deaths registered in England and Wales in the week ending 10 April was 18,516 — the highest weekly total since 2000. The number of deaths in care homes has doubled from four weeks earlier, when the first Covid-19 deaths were registered, and there has been a 72.4% increase in hospitals, and a 51.1% increase in private homes, according to the ONS.

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As westerners worry about when to get a haircut…

UN: Coronavirus Pandemic ‘Will Cause Famine Of Biblical Proportions’ (G.)

The world is facing widespread famine “of biblical proportions” because of the coronavirus pandemic, the chief of the UN’s food relief agency has warned, with a short time to act before hundreds of millions starve. More than 30 countries in the developing world could experience widespread famine, and in 10 of those countries there are already more than 1 million people on the brink of starvation, said David Beasley, executive director of the World Food Programme. “We are not talking about people going to bed hungry,” he told the Guardian in an interview. “We are talking about extreme conditions, emergency status – people literally marching to the brink of starvation. If we don’t get food to people, people will die.”

Covid-19 is likely to be sweeping through the developing world but its spread is hard to gauge. What appears to be certain is that the fragile healthcare systems of scores of developing countries will be unable to cope, and the economic disaster following in the wake of the pandemic will lead to huge strain on resources. “This is truly more than just a pandemic – it is creating a hunger pandemic,” said Beasley. “This is a humanitarian and food catastrophe.” Beasley took his message to the UN security council on Tuesday, warning world leaders that they must act quickly in a fast-deteriorating situation. He urged them to bring forward about $2bn of aid that has been pledged, so it can get to the frontline as quickly as possible.


Another $350m (£285m) is also needed to set up the logistics network to get food and medical supplies – including personal protective equipment – to where it is needed, including air bridges where ground transport is impossible. Even before the Covid-19 crisis, Beasley was appealing to donor countries to up food relief funding to the poorest, because conflict and natural disaster were putting severe strain on food systems. “I was already saying that 2020 would be the worst year since the second world war, on the basis of what we forecast at the end of last year,” he said. Added to that, earlier this year East Africa was hit by the worst locust swarms for decades, putting as many as 70 million people at risk.

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Was looking for a better write-up of this, but couldn’t find one. Most comments say this is just posturing since you can’t sue a state, but they’re suing companies and individuals too, and that may work very differently.

Missouri Is Suing China Over Coronavirus Impacts (CNN)

Missouri is suing the Chinese government and other top institutions for the role they played in the coronavirus pandemic and the effects it has had on the state, accusing the country of covering up information, silencing whistleblowers and doing little to stop the spread of the disease, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt announced Tuesday. At least 6,105 people have been confirmed to have the virus in Missouri and at least 229 have died, according to numbers from Johns Hopkins University Schmitt, in his official role as attorney general of Missouri, filed the civil lawsuit in federal court in the eastern district of Missouri.

The lawsuit, the first of its kind, claims “Chinese authorities deceived the public, suppressed crucial information, arrested whistleblowers, denied human-to-human transmission in the face of mounting evidence, destroyed critical medical research, permitted millions of people to be exposed to the virus, and even hoarded personal protective equipment—thus causing a global pandemic that was unnecessary and preventable.” Legal experts have said the lawsuit faces an uphill battle because China is protected by sovereign immunity. CNN is reaching out to the Chinese government for comment. Missouri’s lawsuit alleges that while the Chinese medical community had indications of human-to-human transmission of the virus, they did not inform the World Health Organization when they first reported the outbreak.


It also alleges Chinese leaders did little to curb spread of the virus, still allowing thousands of people to travel to and out of Wuhan. “In mid-January, on or around January 16, despite knowing the risks of doing so, Wuhan leaders hosted a potluck dinner for 40,000 residents, increasing the potential spread of the virus,” it says. “Defendants allowed these massive public gatherings and massive exodus from Wuhan despite knowing the risks of COVID-19, including the risk of human-to-human transmission.” The filing also outlines how officials initially cracked down on medical professionals who posted information about the virus, including Dr. Li Wenliang, who was accused of rumor-mongering by the Wuhan police after sharing information about a new illness with his medical school alumni group. Wenliang later died of the virus.

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Surprised? Me?

CDC’s Failed Coronavirus Tests Were Tainted With Coronavirus (AT)

As the new coronavirus took root across America, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention sent states tainted test kits in early February that were themselves seeded with the virus, federal officials have confirmed. The contamination made the tests uninterpretable, and—because testing is crucial for containment efforts—it lost the country invaluable time to get ahead of the advancing pandemic. The CDC had been vague about what went wrong with the tests, initially only saying that “a problem in the manufacturing of one of the reagents” had led to the failure. Subsequent reporting suggested that the problem was with a negative control—that is, a part of the test meant to be free of any trace of the coronavirus as a critical reference for confirming that the test was working properly overall.


Now, according to investigation results reported by The New York Times, federal officials confirm that sloppy laboratory practices at two of three CDC labs involved in the tests’ creation led to contamination of the tests and their uninterpretable results. Shortly after the problems became apparent in early February, the Food and Drug Administration sent Timothy Stenzel, chief of in vitro diagnostics and radiological health, to the CDC to investigate what was going wrong. According to the Times, he found a lack of coordination and inexperience in commercial manufacturing. Problems that led to the contamination included researchers coming and going from labs working on the test kits without changing their coats and researchers sharing lab space to both assemble test components and handle samples containing the coronavirus.

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Or not.

CDC Chief Warns Second COVID-19 Wave May Be Worse (R.)

A second wave of the coronavirus is expected to hit the United States next winter and could strike much harder than the first because it would likely arrive at the start of influenza season, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warned on Tuesday. “There’s a possibility that the assault of the virus on our nation next winter will actually be even more difficult than the one we just went through,” CDC Director Robert Redfield told the Washington Post in an interview. As the current outbreak continues to taper off, as shown by a recent decline in hospitalization rates and other indicators, authorities need to prepare for a probable resurgence in the months ahead. “We’re going to have the flu epidemic and the coronavirus epidemic at the same time,” he said, and the combination would put even greater strain on the nation’s healthcare system than the first outbreak..

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The very people who failed the worst get most praise. Stop it. Yeah, they can be good little managers, but that doesn’t excuse them being months late.

The COVID-Crisis And Leader Approval Ratings (ZH)

Despite the massive impact of the coronavirus crisis in Italy, where over 180 thousand people have so far contracted the virus and 24 thousand people have died, leading to the country’s healthcare system to be catastrophically overwhelmed, its leader Giuseppe Conte is riding an unprecedented wave of popularity. Having Jumped to 71 percent in March, his highest rate since taking office, his approval rating in April is 63 percent – still a whole 11 points higher than his figure for February before the national lockdown was announced.


As Statista’s Martin Armstrong notes, it’s a similar story in the UK too, where Boris Johnson, who spent a couple of nights in intensive care due to Covid-19 himself, is 18 points up on February. This, although his government’s response has been under severe fire in recent weeks due largely to low testing capacity and a drastic lack of PPE for medical staff. Where this coronavirus goodwill ends though is in the United States where the starkly divided population has been unmoved by Donald Trump’s crisis response to cross any of the deeply set party lines. Comparing poll averages in February to those in April show a very modest one-point increase for the president.

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Subtitle: Why Are Planes Still Flying?

15 Deaths In US Airline Industry In 9 Days Linked To Coronavirus (LAT)

Somehow, word got around among retired New York City firefighters about a perfect second-career job: a local company, with lots of travel perks. One by one, they became flight attendants at JetBlue. Ralph Gismondi was among the first of an estimated 30 or so former firefighters who joined the airline. He retired as a fire captain after several decades that included a stint at ground zero on 9/11. He began working as a flight attendant for JetBlue in 2003 and saw each trip as a chance to fine-tune his comedy routine over the public address system. On layovers, he would play the piano in hotel lobbies and rally other flight attendants for nights out on the town, coworkers said. On April 5, Gismondi became the first JetBlue employee to die of COVID-19. Within days, two more JetBlue deaths linked to the coronavirus followed.


Pilot Kevin McAdoo, a U.S. Air Force veteran, died April 7. Then, 27-year-old Jared Lovos, a fitness enthusiast who had been a JetBlue flight attendant and recently transferred to human resources, died April 10. Across the industry, The Times learned of at least 15 workers who have died from COVID-19 from April 5-13, according to the airlines, unions and interviews with family members and friends. Yet without any central tracking, the true number of deaths in the airline industry is likely to be significantly higher. An American Airlines gate agent at Los Angeles International Airport, an aircraft mechanic at a Tulsa, Okla., airport, a baggage handler at Dallas-Fort Worth and a food services manager at JFK airport in New York are all counted among the recent dead. And the human toll of air travel is mounting.

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No wonder airline staff are dying.

No Screening For Passengers Arriving At Heathrow From Virus Hotspots (DM)

Even the blue face mask covering the Iranian-British businessman’s face couldn’t conceal his consternation as he emerged into the arrivals hall at Heathrow Airport. Before boarding his Iran Air flight from Tehran, Farzad Parhizkar’s temperature – and those of the other 80 or so passengers – was checked by a laser-beam thermometer, he told me. They had also been obliged to fill in a form giving such details as their name and address, destination, reason for travel, and whether they had any symptoms of coronavirus. ‘Then, when I arrive here in London, there is nothing at all,’ he said, his eyebrows raising above the mask. ‘There was no temperature check, no questions about my health, no advice on how to avoid catching the virus. Nothing. Everything was all just like the world is normal.’

It was a criticism I heard repeatedly at Heathrow yesterday and on Sunday as I spoke to some of the 15,000 travellers who are – by Health Secretary Matt Hancock’s latest estimate – still flying into Britain every day. Of these, the Department for Transport claims about 10,000 are landing at London’s main hub, while others are coming in through Gatwick, Manchester and Birmingham. At a time when the nation is in lockdown, the very fact that these airports remain open to commercial flights is surely questionable enough. That we are continuing to welcome passengers from countries such as Iran, where the official Covid-19 death rate stood yesterday at 5,209 (though many believe the mullahs are lying and that it is considerably higher) seems like utter madness.


Yesterday morning, flights also arrived from New York – the city with the world’s highest number of coronavirus deaths, 13,869 – Los Angeles (California, 1,072 deaths), Chicago (Illinois, 1,290), Miami (Florida, 764), Dallas (Texas, 467) and Washington DC (624). Later, planes were due in from Rome, Madrid and Paris – three capitals at the epicentre of this pandemic – as well as from Tokyo, Lagos, Lisbon and Ahmedabad in India. According to Heathrow’s website, the purpose of keeping the airport open is to help repatriate British citizens and import vital freight, such as medical equipment and food. It points out that traffic has fallen by 75 per cent while cargo has increased by 200 per cent.

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If you write on the topic, at least give some examples of countries doing something about it. Plenty to do in Japan.

The Risks Of Relying On China For Critical Medical Supplies (SCMP)

[..] when Covid-19 spread to the rest of world, policymakers and politicians in the West were faced with a more critical challenge concerning national health, state security and geopolitics, as they all depend on China for critical medical supplies in their life-and-death battles against the lethal pandemic. Most developed economies rely on China to supply products such as personal protective equipment, testing materials, face masks, medicine and pharmaceutical materials. In this pandemic, China’s dominance in some strategically significant sectors, such as the active pharmaceutical ingredient industry, may well serve as a wake-up call for political elites in Washington’s corridors of power and the chancelleries of Europe.

[..] The Covid-19 pandemic is simultaneously a supply-side and demand-side shock, underscoring the potential public health, humanitarian and geopolitical crisis, and exposing flaws in the global system. Economically, countries have become more connected and interdependent. Politically, however, governments rule in totally different ways with different objectives. Yet, Adam Smith’s The Wealth of Nations does not take into account the conflicts of politics, economics among them. Similarly, David Ricardo’s theory of comparative advantage espouses the effectiveness and efficiency of free-market competition, but says nothing about geopolitical rivalry.


Covid-19 comes amid escalating tension and rivalry between US-led alliances and China, given China’s fast-growing clout and Beijing’s pivot towards greater authoritarian rule domestically and a greater assertiveness internationally in the past decade or so. The pandemic has served to convince policymakers and strategists in the West not only of the economic risk of their over-reliance on a single country for critical supplies, but also the geopolitical risk of relying on a nation they call a “strategic rival”. Covid-19 will undoubtedly hasten the efforts of Western nations to not only diversify their supply sources to reduce economic risks, but also to diversify away from China to reduce the national security and geopolitical hazards.

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As American as apple pie. Pelosi’s go-to girl for the bailouts. “We’re after fraud.”

Donna Shalala Failed To Disclose Stock Sales In 2019 (MH)

Miami Democratic Rep. Donna Shalala, the lone House Democrat on the committee set up to oversee $500 billion in taxpayer money being used for coronavirus-related payouts to large businesses, violated federal law when she failed to disclose stock sales while serving in Congress. Shalala told the Miami Herald on Monday she sold a variety of stocks throughout 2019 to eliminate any potential conflicts of interest after she was elected to Congress in November 2018. But the transactions were not publicly reported as required by the STOCK Act, a 2012 law that prohibits members of Congress and their employees from using private information gleaned from their official positions for personal benefit and requires them to report stock sales and purchases within 45 days. Shalala’s office said the congresswoman and her financial adviser made a mistake.

Shalala, the former head of the Department of Health and Human Services under President Bill Clinton, is in the process of setting up a blind trust for her assets, and transactions made within a blind trust without a lawmaker’s knowledge are not required to be disclosed. But the blind trust isn’t finalized, meaning any transactions would need to be made public. “She had a misunderstanding about the periodic transaction report process and her need to report the sale of these stocks while preparing a blind trust,” Shalala spokesperson Carlos Condarco said. “As a new member with a broker and attorney who were not familiar with the congressional disclosure rules, there was a misunderstanding.” Shalala acknowledged the transactions after she was selected by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to represent House Democrats on a bipartisan panel that will monitor $500 billion in payouts to large businesses affected by the coronavirus.


On her 2018 financial disclosure, the most recent that is publicly available, Shalala said she owned a number of stocks in companies that could be eligible to seek federal bailouts, a potential conflict of interest. Shalala’s appointment to the five-person commission put her in the role of helping to supervise efforts by the U.S. Treasury Department and the Federal Reserve to stabilize the economy by lending hundreds of billions of dollars to struggling businesses, hospitals, municipalities and states. It will hold hearings and issue monthly reports to Congress. “Treasury got a huge pot of money to bail out large industries, specifically airlines,” Shalala said, of her role on the committee. “What we’re really after is mischief. We’re after fraud.”

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Actually, it wasn’t the banks, it was their execs. So sue them.

Lawsuit Claims 10 Big Banks Rigged Market For ‘Odd-Lot’ US Corporate Bonds (R.)

Ten of the world’s largest banks, including JPMorgan Chase and Bank of America, have been sued for allegedly conspiring over nearly 14 years to rig prices in the $9.6 trillion U.S. corporate bond market, costing ordinary investors billions of dollars. The proposed class action filed on Tuesday in federal court in Manhattan said the banks have since August 2006 violated antitrust law by overcharging investors on “odd-lot” trades, which are worth less than $1 million and comprise 90% of all corporate bond trading. Other defendants include Barclays, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, Royal Bank of Scotland and Wells Fargo & Co, or their respective affiliates.


According to the 81-page complaint, the banks leveraged their power from handling more than two-thirds of U.S. corporate bond underwriting to quietly inflate spreads between the prices where they would buy and sell odd-lot bonds. This allegedly resulted in spreads 25% to 300% higher than on “round-lot” trades over $1 million, which are normally conducted by institutional investors, enabling the banks to reap higher compensation while boosting retail investors’ trading costs. “No reasonable economic justification explains the magnitude of the pricing disparity,” the complaint said. It added that odd-lot spreads are narrower even in foreign bond markets with lower volumes and liquidity.

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    DPC Yard of tenement, Manhattan, New York City 1900   • In US COVID19 Can No Longer Be Listed As Primary Cause Of Death (Salon) • England, Wales
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle April 22 2020]

    #57696

    V. Arnold
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    DPC Yard of tenement, Manhattan, New York City 1900

    Wow, how amazing is that photograph?
    My first thought was, that the lines went across to the other tenements; shared solar dryers for their laundry…
    That took a community…….

    As westerners worry about when to get a haircut…

    Ain’t it just swell.
    Trivial barely describes the drivel coming out of the MSM; and their readers are caught in somebody elses web; one not of their making; but they act as though the situation is, normal; all fouled up!…

    #57697

    Wow, how amazing is that photograph?

    Accompanying movie is Una Giornata Particulare, which stars Sophia Loren and Marcello Mastroianni on a roof just like that

    #57698

    CNN is reporting that the first US death was Feb 6 in CA, not Feb 29 in WA. Who”s in charge of these things?

    #57699

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    Another reminder that we don’t know nuthin! At least concerning Corona virus;
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-study-finds-coronavirus-mutations-are-much-deadlier-original

    …and the beat goes on…

    #57701

    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    The reason there’s not more of my thoughts and commentary posted here is that (like with most of you) there are other serious workings to attend to.

    But in that process occasionally small unserious ideas pop into my noggin and it seems the only way to get them out is to inflict them upon you. So, here goes, one more attempt to propose a name for the virus and the disease. Hopefully these go viral and are adopted by the greater world at large, and we can dispense with the current labels which look like the ingredients for some “New & Improved !” brand of toothpaste ( can’t you just hear the bright and smarmy voice-over ? ” Pandentic Toothpaste, NOW with Sars CoV 2 RNA and Covid 19 ! The choice of doctors around the world!! ”

    Anyway, here’s the new nomenclature I propose :

    ” The WuCon virus, gives us WHO flu. ”

    #57702

    Frontline said the first case arrived here on 15 Jan 2020. ( From c-span interviewing Miles O’Brien 21 april 2020 : “ON JANUARY 15, 2020, AT 35-YEAR-OLD LOCAL MAN FROM WASHINGTON LANDS AT SEATAC AIRPORT IN SEATTLE. HE IS TRAVELING FROM WUHAN, CHINA.” from the transcript.)

    That coatimundi video is wonderful.

    PR! Public relations!! That’s why all the commercials look the same- this whole thing is being run from some public relations booth. That’s why all the politicians sound basically the same. That’s why all the news is basically the same. There’s a script. The script was written long ago.
    COnvenient Virus. The world economy didn’t fall of its own weight, you see, it was The Virus that did it.

    Just in case others aren’t C-SPAN junkies like me (since 1985), C-SPAN has videos and transcripts of all the stuff they have ever shown. Governors, congress folk, authors, press folk, SCOTUS, rallies, campaigns, hearings… It’s a treasure trove if that’s the sort of treasure you seek.

    #57703

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Like clockwork:
    Martin
    https://d33wjekvz3zs1a.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Disease-Cycle-1024×557.png

    Also pointing that no virus maintains force longer than 8 months.

    “UN: Coronavirus Pandemic ‘Will Cause Famine of Biblical Proportions’ (G.)”

    Would this be because nobody’s working, planting, or harvesting food? “Shut it all down Mr. President,” MMT says no one ever needs to work. We neither sow nor reap, but live as the lilies, in fields of gold. Magic fairie-elves will come and take out your garbage and paint your house. Trust us, when have we lied?

    The only thing that matters is medicine. No other aspects of human existence, survival even, are to be considered. If everybody dies of famine and nobody dies of Corona, it’s a win. Because doing cost-benefit is mean, and the value of each life is infinite.

    P.S. they’re “experts.” That means their “biblical” famine won’t happen either. And they’ll never be discredited for it. At all.

    CDC’s Failed Coronavirus Tests Were Tainted With Coronavirus (AT)”

    Speaking of never being discredited or defunded. Using power to never meet consequences at all.

    CDC Chief Warns Second COVID-19 Wave May Be Worse (R.)”

    And we believe the guys who got everything wrong for why?

    Missouri Is Suing China Over Coronavirus Impacts (CNN)”

    A great example of mishandling and trying to start a war. Even if China was “slow” it’s just a thing we all understand happens sometimes. Even if they did it on purpose, I’d say you don’t have a case. What, they nuked themselves on purpose? So you want to sue them?

    “[to Reese] Let me get this straight, you think that your client, one of the wealthiest and most powerful men in the world, is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands, and your plan is to blackmail this person?” — The Dark Night

    Good luck. They’re re-positioning to start WWIII with China instead, and got the support of the Conservatives to do it, so finally some broad-based support to be morons. Take your tiny country and fight a billion people with hypersonic nuclear missiles and see how it works out for you.

    The Risks of Relying on China for Critical Medical Supplies (SCMP)”

    Gosh, I think I’ve heard of this before. From a Presidential candidate.

    Ross Perot, 1991.

    And every year since the nation’s dumbest people have been telling you smarty-pants and getting the “No it won’t, you’re a stupidface” treatment from Harvard and the NY Times.

    Never discredited. Ever. There is no POSSIBLE action on planet earth that can ever lead to consequences. What else is power for?

    Lawsuit Claims 10 Big Banks Rigged Market for ‘Odd-Lot’ US Corporate Bonds (R.)”

    Proof positive. Right Wells Fargo? 100,000 illegal customer accounts, feloniously created and then double-billed to create overdrafts, while based in accounting fraud to make their bankrupt bank appear solvent. $50 fine.

    CNN is reporting that the first US death was Feb 6”

    Well, it’s CNN, so it’s almost certainly false…

    …Aaaaaand Parents tags it in 10 minutes or less.

    #57704

    zerosum
    Participant

    Important priorities

    DPC Yard of tenement, Manhattan, New York City 1900

    There were rules to follow for hanging your clothes on the clothes line, if you wanted to earn the approval and respect of the other house wives.
    Day, time, what, first and last, whites, colors, and how.

    Still here and pain free

    #57705

    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Happy Earth Day! Any lockdowns planned to stop pollution and climate-related extinction of all life on Earth? Will we save humans the fate of dying from covid so that they can catch the wave of every-species extinction?

    #57707

    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    In one way or another the big problem, the one we are all definitely running out of patience with, is right there in plain sight. Some people are even talking openly about it.

    The problem is the absolutely stunning and incessant stream of crappy information. “Facts” ( and I use the term very very loosely ) coming at us from everywhere. What the hell’s up with that, anyway? Never seen it so bad.

    Gawd !!! What I would give for even ONE scrap of trustworthy information. And there’s the problem, see ? We all DEPEND FOR VERY LIVES on the data that other people give us. As individuals we can only see, hear, and touch reality from as far away as our eyes can see, our ears can hear or our hands can touch. Beyond that range we are blind deaf mutes, dependent on others to be our eyes and ears. Ya can’t be everywhere at once, now can ya? We need other people to report what’s going on over there in their neck of the woods.

    We all have this little model of the world in our heads. It’s not the REAL world of course (the solid one) it’s our IDEA of the solid one. We all know that. That little model is our best guess of what actually really and truly IS and what is going on around us.

    Since most of what we know to be true is based on information that we got from someone else it can be immediately deduced that our model has a fatal weakness : a false datum from someone else could become part of our trusted belief. These beliefs may be our own personal property NOW, but we built them from largely second hand information. So if someone else manages to convince me about a part of my trusted perception of what is even REAL in the first place, then , well, . . . you see where I’m going with this.

    Is hypnosis real ? You tell me. We’ve all seen the stage hypnotist make volunteers do dumb stuff at his command, for your entertainment. Was it real? Were the volunteers actually hypnotized? Well, if the hypnotist convinces viewers that the volunteers were indeed really and truly hypnotized then the hypnotists was successful in hypnotizing THE AUDIENCE.

    All I’m trying to say here is that YOU and only you, are the final arbiter and decider about what really IS. But that the “model” you are using to make that decision, has one hell of a lot of Second Hand parts in it, so be careful.

    #57708

    I hope this is over before I am told I will have to get a phone if I want to go anywhere. “Contract tracing” [C-SPAN this morning; Pelosi as I type] sounds like a nightmare.

    On a slightly different topic about a bad flu season and “facts”:

    “CDC’s 2017-2018 estimates of 48.8 million illnesses, 959,000 hospitalizations and 79,400 deaths.” Time, June 20, 2019.

    “CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2017–2018 season was high with an estimated 45 million people getting sick with influenza, 21 million people going to a health care provider, 810,000 hospitalizations, and 61,000 deaths from influenza.” CDC, November 22, 2019

    Revision? However…
    On CDC’s own page: “Thus, the reports of laboratory-confirmed influenza-related hospitalizations to FluSurv-NET are likely underestimates of the true number of hospitalizations.”
    Apparently not.
    When an inquiry on the page wonders why the death estimate had been 79,000, and is now 61,000, CDC responds with the same “…are likely underestimates…”

    18,000 preliminary OVERESTIMATE? Hallelujah! It’s nice they left the inquiry up, because the archived stuff has been changed to express the revision.

    When I was a fact-checker in my youth, I would have been quite frustrated.
    In any event, that did not lockdown the US (or the world, with equally grim numbers).

    #57709

    John Day
    Participant

    http://www.johndayblog.com/2020/04/waves-bye-bye.html
    Gilad Atzmon wrote and sent an article about recent waves of influenza-like illness causing deaths in the US. He asks “Is this the second wave?” That’s a provocative opening for some pandemic analysis. I replied to him.
    https://gilad.online/writings/2020/4/20/is-amnesia-a-symptom-of-covid-19

    Good sirs, Gilad and JA, please allow me to tweak this second-wave-hypothesis a little.
    I like the hypothesis, but the waves are too far apart. Waves of contagion are closely temporally connected, confluent.
    A “novel” (new) virus will reach saturation in a population within about 2 years, and then it is “endemic” (established).
    As it continues mutating (a virus can’t keep itself from mutating), it may create new variants that work around the immunity the herd has developed.

    If the US is in the second wave, then the first wave, usually a milder wave, as pandemics go, would have been last fall/winter.
    There was a “3 to 4 week cold” circulating here in Austin from late summer on. People would come see me in week 3,
    worried that it had lasted too long. My wife, Jenny, a school librarian, got it, then I got it.
    The second distinguishing feature was the irritation deep in the chest, and the non-productive and unsatisfying cough that prompted.
    I had a patient almost die in the (teaching) hospital late-November/early-December, and all they found was “coronavirus”,
    a viral pneumonia, which brought on systemic collapse in his body. He lived, so I got sent the discharge summary. “Hmmm, interesting…”
    “Coronavirus” was just an ordinary “cold virus”, in December.

    The guy who described the virus that causes AIDS says this virus had to be spliced together in a lab and the evidence of splicing is all through it.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/covid-19-man-made-virus-hiv-discoverer-says-could-only-have-been-created-lab
    I’ll just accept that as “fact”, if I may. My own analysis from January through February had led me promptly to the same conclusion.

    The infamous Ft. Detrick, Maryland US Army bioweapons lab was shut down in August for a serious “breach of containment”, but “nobody was harmed”, according to official statements. It was all fixed back up by November and reopened for business.

    In mid October 300 US military service members traveled to Wuhan, China to participate in worldwide military games,
    an Olympics type thing, as I understand it. The US never went to these games before last October, a debut…
    Apparently the US contingent stayed in a hotel very close to the wet-market and Wuhan Biolab.
    By one report, 5-6 US military participants were so sick with “viral pneumonia” as to need hospitalization during the games.
    This is the “who was patient-zero” question that the Chines keep raising.
    This was concurrent with “Event 201” by Bill Gates and Johns Hopkins, “What if a bad coronavirus got loose in the world” simulation. Major governments all attended and all scored poorly.

    Look at this South China Morning Post story about a Chinese researcher who has been tracking the viral mutants and seeing how deadly (or not) each mutant is in human-cell culture. Thanks for these 2, Jeff.
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3080771/coronavirus-mutations-affect-deadliness-strains-chinese-study
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.14.20060160v1
    Li took an unusual approach to investigate the virus mutation. She analysed the viral strains isolated from 11 randomly chosen Covid-19 patients from Hangzhou in the eastern province of Zhejiang, and then tested how efficiently they could infect and kill cells.
    The deadliest mutations in the Zhejiang patients had also been found in most patients across Europe, while the milder strains were the predominant varieties found in parts of the United States, such as Washington state, according to their paper.
    Let me point out that the virus was not yet big in New York and New Orleans when Dr Li was doing this analysis.
    I read that the East-coast viral types are more like those in Italy, more virulent. New Orleans has had a bad strain, too.

    If this lab virus came from a military lab, Ft Detrick or Wuhan, it could come as an attack or as an accident in the initial release.
    An accidental release might prompt the leaking country to go ahead and use the weapon against a foe, before the opportunity was lost.
    If it was an intentional release, it would surely be used against a foe, and with the ideal timing for maximum impact.
    Wuhan, a massive Chinese transport hub, at Chinese New Year, was an ideal target.
    Iran, especially top leaders, got hit very hard, right after all those big outdoor events for General Soleimani’s assassination. (Drone aerosolized virus attacks?)

    What if the US virus, the weak one on the west coast, was released very early as a vaccine?
    That would be the logical defense an advanced bioweapons lab would use, while keeping everything hush-hush.
    Too bad New York and New Orleans got a dose of the bad stuff.
    Accidents happen in war.

    Ron Unz looks at the relative veracity of US and Chinese governments in recent decades, with focus on lies about military attacks. Thanks Marjorie.
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/#comment-3853043

    #57711

    zerosum
    Participant

    “What if the US virus, the weak one on the west coast, was released very early as a vaccine?”

    Expanding that question.

    What if covid-19 was a vaccine that was bad? What if a previous “flu shot” played a role in making covid-19 deadly?

    As far as I know, senior care homes and the care workers are vaccinated every year with the “flu shot”.
    Geee, the majority of infected people with covid-19 are connected to senior care homes.

    Of course, there will not be any study to determine if it was a “bad flue shot””

    “They” are too busy suing China to find or divert their energy to any other possible, probable culprits.
    It can’t be a “bad flu shot” because its impossible for experts to make a mistake like that.

    #57712

    Dr. D
    Participant

    “What I would give for even ONE scrap of trustworthy information.”

    Indeed. And our conclusions are no better than the information. It allows wide conclusions like the perfectly plausible story from Day above, or worse, national parallax as Team A picks an opposing narrative to Team B. They then shoot each other in the streets like demented sneetches. (Spoiler: with all facts being lies both are equally wrong. Those with correct information have a hearty laugh all around.)

    #57715

    anticlimactic
    Participant

    The WHO says only 2% to 3% of global population have antibodies. That is a minimum of 140 million to a maximum of 210 million.

    With 177285 deaths and 140 million infections the rate of death is a MAXIMUM of 0.127% of infected people!!!

    ‘Confirmed’ cases : about 2.5 million! Almost a factor of 60 out AT LEAST!!!

    Average age of death in Italy : 78
    Average age of death in Germany : 82

    We know the effects of the lockdown will be dire, affecting the global economy for years, destroying the lives of millions in every country. Given the above, lockdowns are not warranted in any way as the effects will be far more disastrous than the disease.

    The problem is not the ‘pandemic’ but the reaction to it.

    #57716

    zerosum
    Participant

    Read the explanation

    Tuesday, April 21, 2020
    What’s Collapsing Can’t Be Saved: Our Fraudulent Economy
    (Naw don’t bother reading it. You already know that its all a scam.)

    #57717

    D Benton Smith
    Participant

    anticlimactic

    It’s tempting to wrap up any analysis of the crisis into a tidy package, with a single conclusion. I feel the temptation, too, every time I look at it,
    BUT . . .

    It’s never so simple. The problem is the pandemic AND the reaction to it AND the causes of it AND the values/mindset that enabled those causes to fester until finally producing a pandemic.

    If ever there was a compelling need for just plain old garden variety awareness, this is that time.

    #57718

    thomasjkenney
    Participant

    @Dr. D:

    Those with correct information have a hearty laugh all around.

    No…usually those with correct information are burned as witches.

    #57720

    WES
    Participant

    ThomasJKenney:

    On the subject of witches, not all were burnt! Lots were hung or drowned!

    Yes, as you pointed out, they all knew they weren’t witches!

    My great, great, … ancestor Bridget Bishop was the first witch to be hung in Salem in 1692!

    She too knew she wasn’t a witch but it didn’t matter!

    When the truth is inconvenient, it must be sent to die! thanks

    #57721

    HEY PHARMA!! The big money is in treatments for severe cases, because now everyone knows there is no vaccine for any coronavirus AND THERE LIKELY NEVER WILL BE. They mutate too quickly.
    So ditch Gates and his sociopathic minions and put your research where the money is.

    HEY HOSPITALS!!! Admit you were over-treating (hah!) and now you know- oxygen, side or prone position, rare intubation, medications and antibiotics if needed…
    Treat. We’re unlikely to cure it. It isn’t going away.
    This has been a suck-up plea on the part of one who is afraid of where the world is going, civil liberties-wise.
    /s. Sorta.

    #57722

    zerosum
    Participant

    The white house briefing on covid19 has got everyone scared.
    A “Second wave” is coming this fall. It could be worst than now.
    There will be a complication with the regular flu at the same time.
    Go and get the “flu shot” to make it easier to separate the symptoms.

    I’m just a “regular joe”.
    What would the educated bloggers advise?

    #57726

    Boogaloo
    Participant

    “What I would give for even ONE scrap of trustworthy information.”

    I think there is quite a lot of trustworthy information out there. Anyone following the Chris Martenson series has seen him go through the available data on a daily basis with a critical eye.

    The problem is not that there is no trustworthy information. Rather, the real problem is twofold. First, there is a human tendency to figure out what you want to believe, and to go and look for evidence that supports the conclusion you wanted to reach from the beginning. Second, we are swimming in a sea of propaganda full of bad faith actors. They do not want to know the truth. Rather, they want to push an agenda, in many cases inducing people to believe what they want to believe, even though the data doesn’t really support that conclusion. Their hope is to muddy the water so much that you just give up and trust your hunch.

    Regarding the origin theory, you have the additional problem that the majority of the human race is tribal. Very few care about the truth. If the truth is that this came out of a Chinese lab, how many Chinese would accept that? How many would be open to an honest investigation? How many would simply dismiss the suggestion and refuse to consider the evidence? Same with the Americans. If this really came from a US lab, would Americans want to know the truth? Would they be able to handle the truth? How would they react?

    I fear that too many people follow the maxim “My country right or wrong” — which is why we have had so many wars from generation to generation. We need more people to step forward and say “My country was wrong, and we need to correct this to make sure it never happens again.” This is a great time for an international convention banning biological weapons and putting transparent monitoring in place. But will it ever happen? I doubt it — and I expect that the US would oppose it more than any other country.

    On the origin, neither country wants to know the truth. They just want to find enough evidence to blame the other side. We are swimming in a sea of propaganda.

    #57728

    kimyo99
    Participant

    @johnday

    thank you for putting together all of that information. i find nothing to dispute, nothing sensational, nothing tin-foil-hat worthy. just a serious, sober look at the history of events. some speculation, but worthy questions in my view.

    i’m in ny state, and late oct2019 i went through one of the nastiest episodes of flu i’ve ever experienced. i had most of the common covid19 symptoms. i would love to get tested, but the testing error rates seem to be high enough to make that a waste of time.

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