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Rembrandt van Rijn Student at a table by candlelight c.1642

 

 

We would by now have expected the narrative surrounding COVID19 to be simpler to understand, but it’s not. We may understand much more about the disease and everything that has to do with it, but we’re finding there is so much that has been left unsaid, not discussed, neglected.

The discussion has been stuck in an All Else Being Equal (Ceteris Paribus) mode, but all things do not remain equal. It’s not even as if you get rid of the disease, all your problems go away. Not only do various COVID measures inflict huge damage on economies, on people’s jobs and incomes, they also cause entire new sets of health problems.

Epidemiologists and virologists are not equipped for such massive problems. They may be able to say the odd wise word in their field -and even that will be 90% rear-view mirror stuff, because they must compare what they see to what happened in the past-, but the disease doesn’t only affect their field. It affects many fields they have no knowledge of.

Their ideas are then taken on board by economists, not exactly the most scientific of sciences, and off go the government policies. But that was 6-7 months ago, and we learned so much since, right? By now we have involved for instance mental health experts on a large scale, right? Yeah, sure.

The point is, you can’t force lockdowns, masks etc. onto people, without looking at what the consequences of that will be. Because all things do not remain equal for 6-7 months.

A nice example comes from a July 2020 study published in the Lancet, which indicates that “..the number of smokers in a population was correlated with a 3% decrease in covid deaths.. Wow, that’s great. Let’s get everybody smoking, said … nobody. But if your sole focus is COVID19, and for many governments it is, why not? That’s of course because smoking is one thing people recognize as “bad”. But how about other things, that are not?

That same Lancet study, as interpreted by a Sebastian Rushworth MD, also says there is no proof that lockdowns work:

 

Does Lockdown Prevent COVID Deaths?

The factors that most strongly predicted the number of people who died of covid in a country were rate of obesity, average age, and level of income disparity. Each percentage point increase in the rate of obesity resulted in a 12% increase in covid deaths. Each additional average year of age in the population increased covid deaths by 10% . On the opposite end of the spectrum, each point in the direction of greater equality on the gini-coefficient (a scale used to determine how evenly resources are distributed across a population) resulted in a 12% decrease in covid deaths. All these results were statistically significant.


Another factor that had an effect that was significant, but more weakly so, was smoking. Each percentage point increase in the number of smokers in a population was correlated with a 3% decrease in covid deaths. Ok, let’s get to the most important thing, which the authors seem to have tried to hide, because they make so little mention of it. Lockdown and covid deaths. The authors found no correlation whatsoever between severity of lockdown and number of covid deaths. And they didn’t find any correlation between border closures and covid deaths either. And there was no correlation between mass testing and covid deaths either, for that matter. Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

Which is intriguing, because countries like France, Belgium, Netherlands appear to have had spectacular success with their recent new lockdowns.

 

 

 

Problem is, you can’t lock down countries and people forever. And if the coronavirus has become endemic in the population, the “success” would seem to be inevitably short-lived. In the Netherlands just now, numbers were announced that already are 15% or so up from the 24 hours before. What if a lockdown is not the answer, or not anymore at least? I don’t have the impression that there is a Plan B.

But it would appear to be useful to by now stop throwing all “cases” on one heap, and find a better definition, for instance “positive PCR tests”. Or even “positive PCR tests that require medical attention.” And you will also have to define much better who requires that attention, and who dies. If you’re talking, say 90%, only about people who are either very old and/or have severe underlying conditions, maybe a general lockdown is not your thing.

Maybe you should aim to protect these vulnerable groups, and leave the rest alone. Maybe obese people, who are very much at risk, should be locked down, but not their fit and slimmer neighbors. Maybe you should ban food that causes obesity and diabetes, maybe you should hand out Vitamin D to everybody. Maybe you should simply accept that some people are going to die of the disease.

Whatever else you do, maybe you should prepare for the risk that the virus is endemic, and it’s here to stay. And then take it from there. Because, for one thing, it’s not all that obvious, it’s all still riddled with misconceptions. Renowned medical site medrxiv.org has this:

 

Association Between Living With Children And Outcomes From COVID-19

Close contact with children may provide cross-reactive immunity to SARs-CoV-2 due to more frequent prior coryzal infections from seasonal coronaviruses. Alternatively, close contact with children may increase risk of SARs-CoV-2 infection. We investigated whether risk of infection with SARs-CoV-2 and severe outcomes differed between adults living with and without children.

This is the first population-based study to investigate whether the risk of recorded SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe outcomes from COVID-19 differ between adults living in households with and without school-aged children during the UK pandemic. Our findings show that for adults living with children there is no evidence of an increased risk of severe COVID-19 outcomes although there may be a slightly increased risk of recorded SARS-CoV-2 infection for working-age adults living with children aged 12 to 18 years.

Working-age adults living with children 0 to 11 years have a lower risk of death from COVID-19 compared to adults living without children, with the effect size being comparable to their lower risk of death from any cause. We observed no consistent changes in risk of recorded SARS-CoV-2 infection and severe outcomes from COVID-19 comparing periods before and after school closure. [..] Our results demonstrate no evidence of serious harms from COVID-19 to adults in close contact with children, compared to those living in households without children. This has implications for determining the benefit-harm balance of children attending school in the COVID-19 pandemic.

And yesterday we had this from Reuters: “Anxiety, depression and insomnia were most common among recovered COVID-19 patients…and the researchers also found significantly higher risks of dementia…”

One of the Automatic Earth’s in-house doctors, Doc Robinson, rightly said qualifying insomnia as a mental illness is a very broad stroke. Whereas my attention was drawn to this line:

“.. people with a pre-existing mental illness were 65% more likely to be diagnosed with COVID-19..”

How does that work? Why would you be 65% more likely to catch COVID, or be diagnosed with it, if you’re already depressed? Depressed people are more likely to attend Trump rallies? Or Biden celebrations?

 

One In Five COVID19 Patients Develop Mental Illness Within 90 Days

Many COVID-19 survivors are likely to be at greater risk of developing mental illness, psychiatrists said on Monday, after a large study found 20% of those infected with the coronavirus are diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder within 90 days. Anxiety, depression and insomnia were most common among recovered COVID-19 patients in the study who developed mental health problems, and the researchers also found significantly higher risks of dementia, a brain impairment condition. “People have been worried that COVID-19 survivors will be at greater risk of mental health problems, and our findings … show this to be likely,” said Paul Harrison, a professor of psychiatry at Britain’s Oxford University.


[..] The study also found that people with a pre-existing mental illness were 65% more likely to be diagnosed with COVID-19 than those without. Mental health specialists not directly involved with the study said its findings add to growing evidence that COVID-19 can affect the brain and mind, increasing the risk of a range of psychiatric illnesses. “This is likely due to a combination of the psychological stressors associated with this particular pandemic and the physical effects of the illness,” said Michael Bloomfield, a consultant psychiatrist at University College London.

As I said two days ago: “Just lovely! If you catch COVID, you get mental health issues. And if you go into lockdown so you don’t catch COVID….you also get mental health issues.”

 

Children Regressing And Struggling Mentally In Lockdown

Children hardest hit by Covid-19 measures have regressed during the pandemic, with some who were potty-trained pre-lockdown reverting to nappies and dummies, and others forgetting basic numbers or how to use a knife and fork, according to the schools watchdog Ofsted. Older children have lost physical fitness as well as reading and writing skills, and some are showing signs of mental distress, which can be seen in an increase in eating disorders and self-harm, according to Ofsted’s chief inspector, Amanda Spielman. [..]


The findings, based on 900 visits to schools and social care settings by Ofsted inspectors since schools fully reopened in September, paint a worrying picture of the impact of the pandemic on children at every stage of the education system in England. While children with good support structures have coped well, those whose parents were unable to work flexibly and have therefore been less available to help have lost out most. Children with special educational needs and disabilities have been “seriously affected” across all age groups, both in their care and education, losing vital support including speech and language services.

Lockdowns are based on pretending we can make time stand still. That, like in one of those slick videos, everything else stops moving while you can walk around it. All Else Being Equal. It never is, not for 6-7 months. And that the first lockdown didn’t work, at least not for long, should perhaps be a lesson. Maybe you should look for answers elsewhere. Because the damage just goes on, economically, psychologically, physically.

I’m not pretending I have the answers. I do have questions though. While the situation reminds me of Sisyphus, forced by Zeus to roll a boulder up a hill for eternity. Every time he nears the top of the hill, the boulder rolls back down.

We need to find a balance between the threat of COVID19 and the threat of everything else, very much including those things that are caused by our approach to COVID.

 

 

 

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    Rembrandt van Rijn Student at a table by candlelight c.1642     We would by now have expected the narrative surrounding COVID19 to be simple
    [See the full post at: Lockdowns Make Time Stand Still]

    #65431

    Huntly
    Participant

    I have always wondered if the smoking issue has to do with the fact that most people go outside to smoke these days thus, at least for a few minutes every hour or so, they are moving around and away from other people and lowering the exposure time.

    #65432

    upstateNYer
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    This piece is very cogently written, Raul. Well done!

    But … “We need to find a balance between the threat of COVID19 and the threat of everything else”

    Ahhh … the “royal we.” In NYS “we” don’t have a choice on finding a balance. King Cuomo has it all figured out for us since, I don’t know, I guess we aren’t smart enough to figure it out for ourselves. We are “code yellow” in Central New York right now (I think that’s what it is … )

    To be clear, I was not opposed to NY’s initial lock down to slow the spread here. NY was a fustercluck at the start of this and medical people were struggling. I had even prepared for the possibility of a few weeks’ lock down based on links on this site (thank you!). However, a few weeks morphed into what looks like will be a year. What is being done now has no logical premise, and I’m well past tired of it.

    Here’s an example: I work with a woman with 5 grandchildren who live in one household. A child in one of her grandchildren’s classes tested positive. That particular grandchild is now quarantined for two weeks and must learn remotely … while living in the household with the other 4 grandchildren WHO CONTINUE TO GO TO IN-PERSON CLASSES in the same school district. In addition to the complete lack of logic here, the [both working] parents had to figure out how to watch the one quarantined child using the time off available through their jobs. Even though they managed it this time, what about if this happens 6 more times over the course of the winter?

    I am almost 60, have autoimmune issues, so I’m at risk (taking Vitamin D, K-2, zinc, quercetin … thank you, John Day!). But, frankly, I’d rather just get on with life and, if it so happens I die from this, so be it. People die.

    As I review this comment I’m thinking the lock down has made me depressed.

    #65433

    John Day
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    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/11/travelers-where-are-we-in-progress-of.html

    Where are we in the progress of history, and why is John posting skanky right-wing tabloid blog crap?
    We are into the terminal decline of fossil energy and the economy of exponential growth which it has fed. We were fed returns on our Ponzi scheme investments, but that has to end abruptly soon. Look where the 2020 red line would fall on this archaic 1972 computer projection of global human economy and environment: http://ecoglobe.ch/sustain/e/ltg.htm

    I wrote this up 3 years ago on the blog.
    https://www.johndayblog.com/2017/09/worse-than-i-think.html

    At this juncture of human history, as we proceed, we are about to step into a massive rupture in continuity. Wealth, property and livelihood will, inescapably be redefined, and people often fight to the death for what-is-rightfully-theirs in these epochs. The last time in my life that the will of the American people seemed to matter was in the rejection of the Vietnam war, and some of the aftermath of that in the years of taking down Nixon and demoting the CIA in the Church hearings. The deep state had to lie low, briefly under a center right president with softer hair, Jimmy Carter. Then the deep state was resurgent under Bush-Reagan, and the American people were just carried along for the ride.
    The ride approaches the cliff of falling energy resources, falling tribute from the empire, and the collapse of the monetary/financial Ponzi scheme, which holds our retirement accounts.
    The means-of-production which provide our groceries, electricity, gas, communications networks, and financial transactions depend on the Ponzi scheme. Disruptions will cascade in unpredictable ways, as points of failure are imposed within the system to shield powerful interests from losses, while imposing them on the weak (us).are not
    When complex systems collapse, they collapse to the highest level of complexity that resource flows will support, or a little lower than that.
    Upper layers of hierarchy are not sustainable, since they need to be fed by lower layers with excess production. That creates the elite power struggle to impose-losses on rival elite factions first, before letting the production economy fail. Bombing Iraq, Syria, Libya, and blockading Venezuela and Iran have done that. The big win was the imposition of losses upon the USSR in the 1980s, when oil prices plummeted, to cause it’s collapse. (The corpse-feeding-frenzy was interrupted by an unknown apparatchik installed into power after Yeltsin-the-drunk, though.)
    Essentially NOBODY in America has lived through a collapse, and those who have are either very old (Kissinger, Soros), Russian, Chinese or Vietnamese. They are America’s brain trust, and I don’t trust the first 2.
    It’s usually a bad sign when power elites really try hard to convince pawns like us of the righteousness of their causes.
    It usually means a bloodbath is coming, and we are the ones who bleed, die and lose our livelihoods and property
    We know that vegetable gardens are a big help to people trying to survive a collapse. Bicycles can do a lot when you have no gasoline, but really, it’s the riders that have to be able to do it. Even bad roads can be ridden. Being a productive human in a community makes you worth keeping in the community. Some communities will have enough productivity and support to persist. Others, especially if they depend on outside flows of wealth and supplies, will fragment. Mostly fragment peacefully… Some power players may decide to feed upon your community.
    Then what? It’s best if you do not depend on things they can easily take, for your existence. They will take wheat, corn and beans. They will not typically take root crops like sweet potatoes. Just sayin’, You can look this up, too. Yes have dried beans and rice and salt and cooking oin and onions and garlic and cheese and canned tomatoes. Know that guys with guns can and will take them, though…

    Here is a global elite guy who is entitled to impose losses on you and me, because he is smart, sees the big picture, and knows that we need a new world order. Build Back Better!
    In his book Covid-19: The Great Reset, World Economic Forum globalist Klaus Schwab asserts that the world will “never” return to normal, despite him admitting that coronavirus “doesn’t pose a new existential threat.”
    “Many of us are pondering when things will return to normal,” writes Schwab. “The short response is: never. Nothing will ever return to the ‘broken’ sense of normalcy that prevailed prior to the crisis because the coronavirus pandemic marks a fundamental inflection point in our global trajectory.”

    Globalist Klaus Schwab: World Will “Never” Return to Normal After COVID

    Tessa Fights Robots has a sore spot around propaganda, which brings me to the explanation of why I’m posting skanky right wing tabloid blog crap. Nobody else is covering the important power plays that we need to know about, which threaten us in the near future, the Great Reset.
    First off, this is an existential post because the task at hand transcends politics. For clarity, and to get the political emotion out of the way, my politics is “human.” I am greatly appalled by the spectacle-at-large, by the cruelty and dishonesty of it, and I am not contributing any of my mental energy to the hyped and nerve-racking fight between competing parasites. By choice, I remain unmoved by the pressure to “sound smart,” according to the rules of the echo chamber. In my Soviet childhood, I have written enough mandatory cliché essays—full of talking points that a “smart child” would recite—to become allergic to propaganda for life. No propaganda please.
    https://tessa.substack.com/p/build-back-better

    Marjorie sent these protocols for treatment of people with COVID-19, and those at high risk of catching it.
    They includes both outpatient treatments and inpatient treatments.
    The outpatient treatments can be used without the prescription drugs ivermectin and doxycycline.
    I personally recommend ​5000 units per day of vitamin-D, and twice that for the first 2 months, if you have not been taking it.
    I get my quercetin in fresh vegetables.
    https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

    #65435

    madamski
    Participant

    Stupidity and insanity are very different things but can merge into each other given enough money. We’ve been headed fo awhile toward some kind of “reset”, deliberate or by fate.

    #65436

    Where are we in the progress of history, and why is John posting skanky right-wing tabloid blog crap?

    Because John reads the Automatic Earth, which has totally gone over to the Orange man side, and now he has no power left to think for himself, because Ilargi put a spell on him. Isn’t it obvious?

    C’mon man!

    #65438

    upstateNYer
    Participant

    “Because John reads the Automatic Earth, which has totally gone over to the Orange man side, and now he has no power left to think for himself, because Ilargi put a spell on him. Isn’t it obvious?

    C’mon man!”

    Thanks for the laugh, Raul. Needed it!

    #65441

    madamski
    Participant

    I thought Raul was serious. 😉

    #65443

    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Raúl Ilargi Meijer,

    Regarding today’s essay, our perspectives on this issue have aligned. And I have noticed how your perspective has evolved with more time and information from various sources. Good on you. Had it not been for your writing and John Michael Greer, I would not have decided to collapse my life 4 years ago and prepare as John Day is articulating with respect to gardening and others have with respect to lifestyle. I am still no way fully self sufficient however I am less vulnerable. I sensed implosion 4 years ago and acted on it. One thing that I can add is living in harmony with nature seems to be the correct way forward.

    #65449

    Automatic_Jack
    Participant

    Taking a deep dive into the World Economic Forum’s propaganda about the glorious dystopian technocracy Klaus Schwab and his fellow travelers have planned for the plebs has made me a “Covid skeptic.” I don’t think the virus is fake or a deliberately planned hoax but its “deadly effects” are being greatly exaggerated.

    The constant media driven panic (with Schwab, Gates and the Silicon Valley oligarchs in the background offering encouragement) is being used to keep the public’s fear level high, thus giving the WEF and the tech monopolies the perfect excuse to roll out their “solutions” in the form of “social distancing” (i.e. isolation), lockdowns and “virtual” everything. It’s social engineering that gets the frightened plebs used to obeying government authorities’ orders to hide inside, because “safety.” The point of Covid lockdowns is to condition people into mindlessly accepting state mandated lockdowns. The propaganda around Covid-19 also reinforces the message that isolation and technology are “safe” while nature and people are “dangerous.”

    You never know what kind of scary viruses might be floating around “out there” so mask up when you walk the dog, scrub your hands dry with alcohol 20x a day, stay inside as much as possible and “live” virtually via your screens!

    Governments around the world are tapped into the UN system, which the WHO is part of, and these NGOs are very much influenced, if not controlled by, the technocratic oligarchies and their affiliates. The technocratic elites have the ear of governments (i.e. influence) and are always happy to pass on their sage advice, which invariably profits their companies and furthers the WEF and friends globalist agenda.

    When people ask me “so you think Covid-19 is a hoax!?” I tell them no, it’s not a hoax but it is absolutely being blown way out of proportion and used by the technocratic globalists to accelerate their dehumanizing tech-driven dystopia. Ironically it is Naomi Klein, who has since gone over to the dark side, who described their basic strategy in her book The Shock Doctrine: global capitalists use periods of crises and social disruption to push their agenda onto people faster than is possible during “peacetime.” I would add that powerful governments and agencies therein are no different. The classic example from recent history is of course 9/11, which has raised the level of fear in society and conditioned the public to see the police, intelligence agencies, military and various government authorities as their protectors who will “save” them from death and violence. The post-9/11 era has normalized, among other intrusive measures, domestic spying and intelligence agency snooping that would make a STASI agent blush and has seen many countries roll back constitutionally protected rights and freedoms with very little pushback.

    The WEF, very wealthy oligarchs, governments and other powerful players on the global stage are poised and ready to take advantage of disruptive crises. They war game possible scenarios and hold dry run exercises to prepare themselves.

    In the case of Covid-19 it’s remarkable how a few months into the outbreak the WEF’s Schwab had a book published, The Great Reset, all about “the new normal” and all the tech dweebs from Bill Gates to the zombie Faceborg guy immediately got airtime and column inches to push their “solutions.” A creepy, possibly sociopathic, “philanthropist”, Gates, known best for his ruthless anti-competitive business practices, was reinvented as a kindly cardigan-clad nerd who cares so much about humanity he wants to “protect” every last person on earth from deadly diseases with his helpful vaccination programs. What a mensch! Yeah, nothing at all odd about a guy who isn’t a doctor and who got rich peddling buggy bloatware now presented as a credible “expert” on infectious diseases and vaccination.

    The twisted dystopian fantasy world envisioned by these profoundly antihuman, anti-nature technocrats won’t be constructed overnight. Some of the technology is still being developed plus they know that the global public would never accept such a world were it to be explained honestly. So they push it in increments backed up by lots of slick propaganda. The Covid “event” is the perfect opportunity to push onto the public in months a level of tech immersion that would have otherwise have taken years. Klaus Schwab positively gloats about this in his The Great Reset book. It’s difficult to miss the glee and high-fiving…the technocrats are ecstatic about Covid and don’t even bother hiding it.

    For a while I was on the fence regarding Covid-19. I wasn’t prepared to dismiss as a complete hoax, as some skeptics have done, but the more research I did and the more I read on sites like The Automatic Earth and Off-Guardian the more uneasy I became about the “killer pandemic.” It just didn’t add up. The flip-flopping, the wildly exaggerated death predictions, the parade of technocratic “experts”, the constant media-driven fear porn and reminders about “safety.” If the media stopped yapping about Covid-19 would the public even be aware of this “killer pandemic”?

    It was after reading about the WEF/Silicon Valley tech oligarchs and their very clearly stated agenda that the final piece of the puzzle clicked into place. Skeptics may differ on how they perceive the agenda but they all agree that the evidence pointing to an agenda is overwhelming. This post sums up how I came to join them. Thanks for reading and for keeping the flame of skeptical inquiry burning.

    #65451

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    I find the mental health issues around the Corona virus unsurprising. I have the impression the west, the U.S. in particular, to be very fragile regarding mental health.
    In a country that is basically broken, almost nothing works, including the political class “chosen” to lead.
    With a public, forced, education system, that is a travesty at best, I see little to be optimistic about.
    A fractured society is incapable of coalescing to find solutions; but rather descending into warring factions solving nothing.
    Even the sacred cow of democracy, voting, has gone criminal/corrupt.
    My once beautiful country, is I fear, lost forever…

    #65452

    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ Automatic_Jack

    I agree with your comment

    #65454

    a kullervo
    Participant

    Greetings,

    To whom it may concern,

    Triggernometry Podcast (Konstantin Kisin and Francis Foster): Prof. Sucharit Bhakdi

    #65456

    Michael Reid
    Participant

    @ a kullervo

    Thank you for the very articulate podcast.

    #65457

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ a kullervo

    Very thought provoking interview; a lot to ponder…

    #65458

    Huskynut
    Participant

    A great couple of days posts from everyone – thank you.

    My own illustrations of “peak surreality”:
    1. One Covid case (nb: case, not death) identified in Auckland in last day or so. They can’t identify the source – no contact with borders or other known possibly sources. I just got a txt from work – ” all staff in the Auckland office, please follow Ministry of Health guidelines and stay away from the Auckland CBD until further notice. ‘Cos it’s sane in a city of nearly 2 million to behave like this..

    2. My own office in Wellington shares a building with some floors occupied by Defense staff. One Defense guy tests positive Covid. Their entire floor(s) closed for “deep cleaning”. Serious consideration given to doing the entire building.

    All as a logical – nay inevitable – consequence of buying into the “original sin”.. the premise that a highly contagious virus can “eliminated” with sufficient vigilence and effort. Complete logical and logistical insanity. The absence of logos as Dr D might say.

    #65459

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    All as a logical – nay inevitable – consequence of buying into the “original sin”.. the premise that a highly contagious virus can “eliminated” with sufficient vigilence and effort. Complete logical and logistical insanity. The absence of logos as Dr D might say.

    Well said. I agree.
    I’m doing some serious rethinking of the whole shebang…
    I flew from Oregon to Bangkok (via Taipei) in May of 2003 during the SARS epidemic; I’d forgotten that fact.
    …and now we’re here, facing yet another virus…
    …and now I’m thinking, is safety worth giving up freedom/s?
    I’m thinking no, it’s not worth the trade-off…
    Getting old has many corners; facing death is just one of them…

    #65474

    Dr. D
    Participant

    Jack, they certainly are smart, have to give them that. And the people are really-really stupid, unfortunately, or blindly trusting and credible.

    As you mention though, they have the mental illness of narcissism, which means not only do they just print out in the open everything they plan to do, everybody they plan to kill and all the things they plan to steal knowing no one will read it, and if they read it they will just deny it, but they HAVE to do it. Because that illness means they only feel assured, only a moment’s rest when they are better than everyone else, and can rub their face in their power-over. Of course this is also what gets them in the end, but unfortunately not very quickly.

    V. it’s worse than that. They exalt and aspire to mental illness and fragility. The more fragile you are, the more you can be lazy and demand other people fix the world for you. …Or else you scream like a toddler, I guess. So for a lifetime of millennials, the only time anyone cares or shows love for you is if you’re victimized and disabled by something, anything, real or mostly imaginary. …Yes, and when the Germans come, being a helpless weakling at last doesn’t pay off.

    This goes to the other side: If you ever show the inclination of ability do any work or take any responsibility, you are immediately responsible for anything that happens, and required to labor on behalf of anyone claiming to be fragile in any way, real or imaginary. So there’s a double incentive: if you whine, you’re fed candy, and if you don’t, your candy is stolen. So why work? You’d be certifiably crazy NOT to be a mentally ill weakling victim. That’s why anyone functional is the big baddy who’s being shot from all sides.

    Sadly, what I’m describing sociologically as infantile narcissism and emotional blackmail and slavery is: Socialism.

    Wish it didn’t come back to this, I’m tired of saying it.

    –Yeah, and at least SARS was dangerous. Like Obama’s H1N1, equal numbers died as now and nobody noticed or cared a bit. They only believe illusion, the media, not their own lyin’ eyes. …As is the M.O. of violent, narcissistic sociopaths. They must act this way, for their mental illness requires not only the crime, the death — that’s immaterial — but the POWER of making you do something, so much POWER over you, you’ll even hurt yourself. And it’s working great for them. People are indeed hurting themselves and their children in the most illogical ways imaginable, so I’m sure they’re having a great time at last.

    #65476

    zerosum
    Participant

    Now that the readers of all this wisdom on TAE, have read all this info, we are the informed 0.0001% that can see the train coming.
    Here are the enablers/puppet masters
    https://buildbackbetter.com/the-transition/agency-review-teams/
    AGENCY REVIEW TEAMS
    Meet the Biden-Harris agency review teams

    #65481

    madamski
    Participant

    “the zombie Faceborg guy”

    Wow. Perfect description. I plan to call Zuckerberg ZFG from here forth.

    “As you mention though, they have the mental illness of narcissism, which means not only do they just print out in the open everything they plan to do, everybody they plan to kill and all the things they plan to steal knowing no one will read it, and if they read it they will just deny it, but they HAVE to do it. Because that illness means they only feel assured, only a moment’s rest when they are better than everyone else, and can rub their face in their power-over. Of course this is also what gets them in the end, but unfortunately not very quickly.”

    A perfect summation of the phenomenon.

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