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Does Lockdown Prevent COVID Deaths? (Rushworth MD)
Brennan et al Spooked Over Suggestion Trump May ‘Declassify Everything’ (RT)
Why Is The Supreme Court Involved In Pennsylvania? (Reeves)
49% In New Poll Say Biden Is Legitimate Winner Of Election; 34% SayTrump (JTN)
Mathematical Evidence The Election Was Stolen (Lt. Col. James Zumwalt)
Biden Camp is Already Working With Foreign Leaders, Like Flynn Did (Greenwald)
Biden Team Considers Legal Action To Force Formal Transition Of Power (NYP)
AI Software Verified Mail-In Ballots in Key Swing States (Whitney Webb)
Fox Joins MSM, Forcing Millions Of Americans To The Media Fringes (Bridge)
Biden Aide Signals Push For Greater Censorship On The Internet (Turley)
EU Seizes on Vienna Attack to Enact Long-Desired Ban on Encryption (MPN)
Zoom Lied To Users About End-to-End Encryption For Years – FTC (ArsT)
EU Goes After Amazon For Breaching European Antitrust Rules (RT)
Why Do Some People Get Hay Fever And What Can They Do About It? (SMH)

 

 

 

 

Headline:

Trump’s voter fraud lawsuits are not about contradicting the will of all the people — just the Black ones
Donald Trump is blaming his loss on Black workers—the same people who risked their very lives to count votes in the middle of a pandemic.

The Philadelphia Inquirer

 

 

 

 

Very large study, interpreted.: .. no correlation whatsoever between severity of lockdown and number of covid deaths. [..] there was no correlation between mass testing and covid deaths either, for that matter. Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

Does Lockdown Prevent COVID Deaths? (Rushworth MD)

The study chose to limit itself to looking at the 50 countries with the most recorded cases of covid-19 as of the 1st of April 2020. My interpretation is that they chose the top 50 most affected countries, rather than looking at all 195 countries, due to resource constraints. Data was gathered up to the 1st of May 2020. All information gathered was in the form of publicly available facts and figures. Data gathered included information about covid, income level, gross domestic product, income disparity, longevity, BMI (Body Mass Index), smoking, population density, and a bunch of other things that the researchers thought might be interesting to look at. The authors received no outside funding and reported no conflicts of interest.

There are a few problems here that become apparent straight away. First of all, as mentioned, all the data in this study is observational, so no conclusions can be drawn about cause and effect. Second, May was relatively early in the pandemic, and it’s now November, so we’re missing about half a year’s worth of covid data. On the other hand, the pandemic had already peaked in much of the world by May 1st, and lockdown measures had at that point been in place for months in most countries, so it should be possible to get a pretty good idea about what effect lockdown has in terms of decreasing covid deaths, even using only the data available up to May 1st.

Third, the analysis builds on publicly available data, often provided by different governments themselves, with widely varying levels of trustworthiness, and with different ways of classifying things. As an example, data from Sweden is infinitely more reliable than data from China. And while certain countries have used quite inclusive criteria when deciding whether someone has died of covid or not, other countries have been much more strict. The countries with stricter definitions will tend to have lower covid death rates than the countries with more generous definitions. This lack of homogeneity in how things are defined can make it harder to see real patterns.

Fourth, the reseachers who put this study together gathered an enormous amount of data, pretty much everything they could think of under the sun that might in some way correlate with covid statistics. That means that this study amounts to “data trawling”, in other words, going through every relationship imaginable without any a priori hypothesis in order to see which relationships end up being statistically significant. When you do this, you’re supposed to set stricter limits than you normally would for what you consider to be statistically significant results. They didn’t do this.

[..] The factors that most strongly predicted the number of people who died of covid in a country were rate of obesity, average age, and level of income disparity. Each percentage point increase in the rate of obesity resulted in a 12% increase in covid deaths. Each additional average year of age in the population increased covid deaths by 10% . On the opposite end of the spectrum, each point in the direction of greater equality on the gini-coefficient (a scale used to determine how evenly resources are distributed across a population) resulted in a 12% decrease in covid deaths. All these results were statistically significant.

Another factor that had an effect that was significant, but more weakly so, was smoking. Each percentage point increase in the number of smokers in a population was correlated with a 3% decrease in covid deaths. Ok, let’s get to the most important thing, which the authors seem to have tried to hide, because they make so little mention of it. Lockdown and covid deaths. The authors found no correlation whatsoever between severity of lockdown and number of covid deaths. And they didn’t find any correlation between border closures and covid deaths either. And there was no correlation between mass testing and covid deaths either, for that matter. Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

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Well, yeah, that could expose him.

Brennan et al Spooked Over Suggestion Trump May ‘Declassify Everything’ (RT)

Former CIA director John Brennan took to CNN to speculate wildly on how Trump would dump the US’ most precious military secrets out of spite. Mainstream outlets and social media alike piled on the declassification rumors. Brennan took to CNN’s airwaves on Monday to denounce Trump for firing Defense Secretary Mark Esper, claiming the axe came down over Esper’s “rebuff[ing] Trump’s efforts to politicize the US military.” But the mind-reading went on considerably further as Brennan, aided and abetted by host Chris Cuomo, wondered aloud “who knows what else he has refused to do” – like expose the nation’s deepest, darkest secrets.

If Esper had “been pushed aside because he was not listening to Donald Trump, who knows what his successor is going to do if Donald Trump does give some type of order that really is counter to what I think our national security interests need to be?” Brennan wondered aloud. He cited no proof of his initial statement about the reason for Esper’s firing, or any evidence to back up Trump’s supposed inclination toward spilling all of the national security beans pre-Inauguration Day, but Cuomo didn’t seem to care. Brennan was concerned even as the pundit reminded him that Trump only had 70 days to leave the White House without leaving a smoking crater in his wake. “You can do a lot of damage in 70 days,” he hinted darkly, questioning whether the president was “going to carry out these vendettas against these other individuals.”

“It’s clear Donald Trump Is trying to exercise the power because he can, and he’s going to settle scores, but i’m very concerned about what he might do…” the spook-turned-Resistance stalwart mused, veering into projection territory with a suggestion that the president was “just very unpredictable. Right now he’s like a cornered cat” or “tiger” and was going to “lash out.”

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Because a court decided to (among other things) extend the time ballots could come in. And only the legilsature has that power.

Why Is The Supreme Court Involved In Pennsylvania? (Reeves)

Last Friday evening, in the midst of the media frenzy over the Presidential election, Justice Alito issued a short, page-and-a-half order to all Pennsylvania county boards of election. The order directs the county boards, in counting ballots, to separate any and all ballots received by mail after November 3 at 8:00 pm from those received before that time. Most legal commentators minimized the significance of Alito’s order, declaring it to be no big deal. In fact, though, the order is part of a major lawsuit currently pending before the Supreme Court, the outcome of which could have serious consequences for election law across the country regardless of whether it practically impacts the results of the Presidential election.

[..] The lawsuit, Republican Party of Pennsylvania v. Kathy Boockvar, et al., presents the question of whether, under the United States Constitution and federal law, state courts can overturn the express enactments of state legislatures regarding the time, place, and manner of holding Presidential elections. The Constitution vests the state legislatures with the authority to do this and mentions nothing about state courts. The federal Congress, in turn, is vested with the authority to pass a law mandating that all states hold the voting for President on the same day throughout the country. For a major part of our country’s history, Congress declined to exercise this power. As difficult as it is to believe in this day and age, there was a time when different states held their elections for President on different days. But Congress eventually streamlined the election process by passing legislation mandating that the Presidential election be held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.

But while Congress, pursuant to its Constitutional authority, has mandated the date on which the Presidential election must take place, the individual state legislatures are still vested with a large amount of discretion to decide the place and manner of the elections. For example, while Congress has set the date on which the election is to take place, it has said nothing about the closing time by which all votes must be cast on that date. Should the polls close at 5:00 pm? 8:00 pm? This is a prudential matter left to the resolution of the individual state legislatures. Even more critically—should mail-in voting be allowed? If it is, how should it be done? Do mail-in ballots need to be received by election day itself, or is it sufficient for them to arrive later, so long as they are post-marked the day of the election? Again, this is a matter of prudential judgment left to each state legislature. But in any event, the Constitution vests resolution of these matters with the state legislatures—not with the judiciary.

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But we have other polls that show you completely different results. One from Reuters put Trump at just 3%. And yet another poll says 70% of Americans think election was not “free and fair”.

49% In New Poll Say Biden Is Legitimate Winner Of Election; 34% SayTrump (JTN)

More than a third of registered voters believe Donald Trump legitimately won the presidential election, according to a new Just the News Daily Poll with Scott Rasmussen. Less than half of all respondents — 49% — believe Joe Biden legitimately won the race, while 34% said they believe Trump won the election, and 16% said they are not sure who really won. Of Republican respondents, 77% said they think Trump is the legitimate winner, while just 12% of Republicans believe Biden is the legitimate winner. About a quarter of independent voters also said they believe Trump won. Among Democrats, 87% think that Biden is the winner. Rasmussen noted that the survey was conducted from Thursday night until Saturday early afternoon. “During the time of this survey, no television network or other news source had formally called the race for Biden,” he said. The survey was comprised of 1,200 registered voters and conducted by Scott Rasmussen from Nov. 5-7, 2020.

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I don’t find this terribly strong.

Mathematical Evidence The Election Was Stolen (Lt. Col. James Zumwalt)

In Wisconsin, late into the night of Nov. 3/early morning hours of Nov. 4, President Donald Trump enjoyed a comfortable lead. Milwaukee was to report in with results by 1 a.m. on the 4th; 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. passed without the results. Finally, at 3:30 a.m., the vote tally arrived. All incoming votes went to Democrat Joe Biden; none to Trump. In 1995, not even Saddam proved that brazen. Something highly unusual happened that morning at several voting centers, not only in Wisconsin, but in Michigan and Pennsylvania as well. In Wisconsin, 140,000 mail-in ballots were found ; in Michigan another 200,000; and in Pennsylvania, 1,000,000 – all for Biden.

Supposedly the party of science, Democrats have lambasted Republicans for failing to heed it. Perhaps, then, the science of math provides the best explanation to understand what happened in these three states. A statistical analysis, laying out the chances of such one-sided Biden ballot dumps occurring, leads to but one conclusion: undeniable mathematical evidence the election was stolen. Analysts say statistically it is impossible for those states to have flipped to Biden the way they did. It is a virtual statistical impossibility – the odds being 0.00000189% or 1 in almost 53 million. In a national election demonstrating a close split in popular vote between two presidential candidates, how could so many last minute pro-Biden votes materialize wiping out Trump’s lead?

[..] Any hope of Trump retaining the Oval Office rests on irrefutable proof of voting fraud. Keeping in mind we live in an era where first impression news stories have proven inaccurate, some Trump confidants are saying evidence of massive voter fraud is being assembled, arrests of several players in the voting scam will follow and the proof will be damning. Allegedly, this evidence involves fraudulent use of ballots identified as part of a sting operation. The Trump administration supposedly had all legal ballots secretly imprinted with invisible watermarks in unbreakable code. A scan so far of 14 million ballots in five states reflect an 80% failure rate – all Biden votes.

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Did he talk to the Russian ambassador?

Biden Camp is Already Working With Foreign Leaders, Like Flynn Did (Greenwald)

Two weeks after Donald Trump won the 2016 election, the President-elect named Gen. Michael Flynn to be his National Security Advisor in both the transition and the new administration. Flynn, who had previously served as President Obama’s Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency and then campaigned for Trump, quickly got to work in his new position by reaching out to his counterparts in foreign governments, as is customary for national security transition team officials. One of the calls Flynn made, in late December, was to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, after the Obama administration has imposed a series of sanctions on Moscow in response to pressure to punish the Russians for interference in the 2016 election, including the expulsion of diplomats.

Gen. Flynn — fearful of an excessively retaliatory response from Moscow that could provoke what he saw as unnecessary confrontation, particularly given the growing anti-Russian sentiment in the U.S. — sought to persuade the Russians that there was no need for them to retaliate because the new administration, which was only three weeks away from taking over, would reset its relations with Moscow and try to forge a more constructive engagement.

[..] It is customary for post-election transition officials to work with their counterparts in foreign governments to lay the groundwork for relations with the new administration. As The Washington Post said about Flynn’s call: “it would not be uncommon for incoming administrations to interface with foreign governments with whom they will soon have to work.” Despite its normalcy, Flynn’s call, which was recorded by the National Security Agency that had been targeting Russian officials, prompted the FBI — under the leadership of then-Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe — to decide to criminally investigate Flynn’s conversations with Kislyak.

[..] Any doubts about how customary it is for such calls to be made by transition officials were unintentionally obliterated on Monday night by former Obama national security official Ben Rhodes, who is almost certain to occupy a high-level national security position in a Biden administration. Speaking on MSNBC — of course — Rhodes, while amicably chatting with former Bush/Cheney Communications Director turned-beloved-liberal-MSNBC-host Nicolle Wallace, admitted in passing that “foreign leaders are already having phone calls with Joe Biden talking about the agenda they’re going to pursue January 20,” all to ensure “as seamless transition as possible,” adding: “the center of political gravity in this country and the world is shifting to Joe Biden.”

Cruz McCabe Logan Act

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Trying to make it a fait accompli, so the backlash will be huge if courts start throwing out ballots.

Biden Team Considers Legal Action To Force Formal Transition Of Power (NYP)

Joe Biden’s team is considering legal action over the ongoing refusal to grant the president-elect a formal transition into the White House, according to reports. Amid President Trump’s declining to concede the election, the federal agency needed to green-light his transition has also held back from declaring him the victor — a move usually made within 24 hours. The delay by the General Services Administration (GSA) freezes the Biden team out of access to $6.3 million in federal funding, classified information and security clearances or background checks for potential cabinet nominees, Axios noted. It also prevents access to the State Department, which facilitates calls between foreign leaders, Fox News said.

“There’s a number of levers on the table and all options are certainly available,” a Biden transition official told reporters. Legal action is “certainly a possibility,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, according to the Associated Press. “It’s a changing situation and certainly rather fluid,” added the official, according to Axios. Trump is not expected to formally concede but is likely to vacate the White House at the end of his term, several people around him told the AP. A GSA spokesperson told the wire service late Monday that an “ascertainment” on the winner of the election had not yet been made.

The formal presidential transition doesn’t begin until the administrator of the federal General Services Administration ascertains the “apparent successful candidate” in the general election. Neither the Presidential Transition Act nor federal regulations specify how that determination should be made. That decision green lights the entire federal government’s moves toward preparing for a handover of power. In 2000, the GSA determination was delayed until after the Florida recount fight was settled on Dec. 13. At the time, the administrator relied on an assessment from one of the drafters of the 1963 Presidential Transition Act that “in a close contest, the Administrator simply would not make the decision.”

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This is even crazier that letting software systems count votes.

AI Software Verified Mail-In Ballots in Key Swing States (Whitney Webb)

Though accusations of election fraud in the 2020 US presidential election have been swirling across social media and some news outlets for much of the past week, few have examined the role of a little known Silicon Valley company whose artificial intelligence (AI) algorithm was used to accept or reject ballots in highly contested states such as Nevada. That company, Parascript, has long-standing cozy ties to defense contractors such as Lockheed Martin and tech giants including Microsoft, in addition to being a contractor to the US Postal Service. In addition, its founder, Stepan Pachikov, better known for cofounding the app Evernote in 2007, is a long-standing and 2020 donor to Democratic presidential candidates.

Parascript’s AI software was used during this election in at least eight states for matching signatures on ballot envelopes with those in government databases in order to “ease the workload of staff enforcing voter signature rules” resulting from the influx of mail-in ballots. Reuters, which reported on the use of the technology, asked the company to provide a list of counties and states using its software for the 2020 election. Parascript, however, declined to supply the list, replying, instead, that their clients “included 20 of the top 100 counties by registered voters.”

Despite not receiving the official list from Parascript, Reuters was able to compile its own partial list, which revealed that several counties in Florida, Colorado, Washington, and Utah, among others, utilized the AI software to determine the validity of ballots. Reuters also reported that Clark County, Nevada, which is one of the hotspots of litigation between the Trump and Biden campaigns and fraud allegations, was one that used the software. Reuters was able to determine how the software was used in some counties, with many counties allowing the software to approve anywhere from 20 to 75 percent of mail-in ballots as acceptable. For several counties included in the Reuters list,staff reviewed 1 percent or less of the AI software’s acceptances. Figures were not available for Clark County, Nevada.

Prior to the election, concerns were raised regarding the efficacy of AI signature-verification software for use on mail-in ballots. For instance, Kyle Wiggers, a journalist who covers AI for Venture Beat, noted that the accuracy of such systems is believed to vary between 74 and 96 percent. However, he also stated that “we don’t have benchmarks from the systems that are in use to verify signatures on these mail-in ballots. We basically have to go by what the manufacturers of the systems are telling us, which is that the systems are accurate.”

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“It signals a massive migration away from the so-called ‘legacy media’ that was complicit in dragging Trump through the mud for four years over the fake news of Russiagate and impeachment.”

Fox Joins MSM, Forcing Millions Of Americans To The Media Fringes (Bridge)

Once upon a time, Fox provided the Republican Party solitary shelter from a storm of media attacks, which ramped up considerably with the election of Donald Trump, a Washington outsider loathed by the establishment. Eventually, however, for reasons known only to Rupert Murdoch, the channel began to abandon its core audience. Last year, for example, Fox viewers got their first whiff of change when the 89-year-old media mogul brought on board none other than Donna Brazile, a former CNN commentator as well as a former Democratic National Committee chair. Then there’s Chris Wallace, the Fox News anchor who served as moderator during the first debate between Trump and Biden. Critics say Wallace was so harsh with the US president that it appeared as though Trump was debating against two people instead of one.

It wasn’t until Election Day, however, when many Fox viewers got blindsided by the painful realization that the channel they had followed for years had finally betrayed them – and at the worst possible time. That much became apparent when Fox, even before ‘fake news’ CNN, jumped the gun and called the swing state of Arizona for Biden with just 73 percent of the state’s votes having been tallied. The Trump administration seemed justified in calling that move “voter suppression” – a rusty knife in the back. Many Republicans probably turned the car around when they heard that dubious news. The straw that broke the Fox back, however, came on Thursday, when anchor Bret Baier told viewers, “We have not seen the hard evidence,” after Trump remarked during a White House press conference that the election process had been rampant with “fraud and corruption.”

Baier could have at least acknowledged that some of the more questionable incidents – such as Republican ballot observers being turned away as the votes were being counted, and the names of the dearly departed appearing on the ballots – deserved some scrutiny. Now Fox will have to suffer with the ramification of its political volte-face, which, judging by the comments on Twitter, has thousands of erstwhile viewers running for the fire exits. But is there a safe alternative media universe to escape to? It should disturb many people, not least in the world of media, that Trump got 71 million votes in the 2020 showdown against his rival. That number represents not only millions of jaded American voters, exasperated by the apparent botching of the most consequential US election in modern times. It signals a massive migration away from the so-called ‘legacy media’ that was complicit in dragging Trump through the mud for four years over the fake news of Russiagate and impeachment.

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Twitter silencing news stories is not enough.

Biden Aide Signals Push For Greater Censorship On The Internet (Turley)

We have been discussing the calls from top Democrats for increased private censorship on social media and the Internet. President-elect Joe Biden has himself called for such censorship, including blocking President Donald Trump’s criticism of mail-in voting. Now, shortly after the election, one of Biden’s top aides is ramping up calls for a crackdown on Facebook for allowing Facebook users to read views that he considers misleading — users who signed up to hear from these individuals. Bill Russo, a deputy communications director on Biden’s campaign press team, tweeted late Monday that Facebook “is shredding the fabric of our democracy” by allowing such views to be shared freely.

Russo tweeted that “If you thought disinformation on Facebook was a problem during our election, just wait until you see how it is shredding the fabric of our democracy in the days after.” Russo objected to the fact that, unlike Twitter, Facebook did not move against statements that he and the campaign viewed as “misleading.” He concluded. “We pleaded with Facebook for over a year to be serious about these problems. They have not. Our democracy is on the line. We need answers.” For those of us in the free speech community, these threats are chilling. We saw incredible abuses before the election in Twitter barring access to a true story in the New York Post about Hunter Biden and his alleged global influence peddling scheme. Notably, no one in the Biden camp (including Biden himself) thought that it was a threat to our democracy to have Twitter block the story (while later admitting that it was a mistake).

I have previously objected to such regulation of speech. What is most disturbing is how liberals have embraced censorship and even declared that “China was right” on Internet controls. Many Democrats have fallen back on the false narrative that the First Amendment does not regulate private companies so this is not an attack on free speech. Free speech is a human right that is not solely based or exclusively defined by the First Amendment. Censorship by Internet companies is a “Little Brother” threat long discussed by free speech advocates. Some may willingly embrace corporate speech controls but it is still a denial of free speech.

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Dangerous. Trying to use pedophilea to clamp down on an entire society. Do these people not understand this, or is something else going on?

EU Seizes on Vienna Attack to Enact Long-Desired Ban on Encryption (MPN)

The European Union is rushing through new legislation to get rid of end to end digital encryption. This would mean the end of privacy for users of popular messaging apps like WhatsApp and Signal. A European Council draft resolution on encryption quietly published on Friday afternoon lays out the EU’s Orwellian position in detail. “The European Union fully supports the development, implementation and use of strong encryption,” it states, “Encryption is a necessary means of protecting fundamental rights and the digital security of governments, industry and society.” Yet in the very next sentence it insists that “At the same time, the European Union needs to ensure the ability of competent authorities” to “exercise their lawful powers, both online and offline.”

These “competent authorities” (a phrase occurring throughout the document) refer to law enforcement agencies and judicial authorities. “Protecting the privacy and security of communications through encryption and at the same time upholding the possibility for competent authorities in the area of security and criminal justice to lawfully access relevant data for legitimate, clearly defined purposes infighting serious and/or organized crimes and terrorism, including in the digital world, are extremely important,” it concludes. Thus, the EU’s position is that its citizens should be able to hide their data from criminals, but not from the government or its various spying agencies.

The official justification for these new laws, Austrian public service broadcaster Österreichischer Rundfunk reports, is the Vienna terrorist attack of November 2, which left five people dead and 23 injured. However, it notes, the EU has long dreamed of pushing through legislation which lets it surveil its population. In June, for instance, European Commissioner for Home Affairs Ylva Johannson gave a speech outlining what must be done to win the fight against child trafficking and abuse. “We must also deal with encryption. Military grade encryption that’s easy to use but impossible to break makes paedophiles invisible and hides evidence of their crimes from police,” she insisted. “It’s our obligation to protect children. We must do what is necessary,” she added.

Civil rights group the Electronic Freedom Foundation is not impressed by the various arguments put forward by the EU in order to justify the end of end to end encryption, calling it a “drastically invasive step.” “We are in the first stages of a long anti-encryption march by the upper echelons of the EU, headed directly toward Europeans’ digital front-doors. It’s the same direction as the United Kingdom, Australia, and the United States have been moving for some time. If Europe wants to keep its status as a jurisdiction that treasures privacy, it will need to fight for it,” they wrote last month.

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The EU needn’t worry.

Zoom Lied To Users About End-to-End Encryption For Years – FTC (ArsT)

Zoom has agreed to upgrade its security practices in a tentative settlement with the Federal Trade Commission, which alleges that Zoom lied to users for years by claiming it offered end-to-end encryption. “[S]ince at least 2016, Zoom misled users by touting that it offered ‘end-to-end, 256-bit encryption’ to secure users’ communications, when in fact it provided a lower level of security,” the FTC said today in the announcement of its complaint against Zoom and the tentative settlement. Despite promising end-to-end encryption, the FTC said that “Zoom maintained the cryptographic keys that could allow Zoom to access the content of its customers’ meetings, and secured its Zoom Meetings, in part, with a lower level of encryption than promised.”

The FTC complaint says that Zoom claimed it offers end-to-end encryption in its June 2016 and July 2017 HIPAA compliance guides, which were intended for health-care industry users of the video conferencing service. Zoom also claimed it offered end-to-end encryption in a January 2019 white paper, in an April 2017 blog post, and in direct responses to inquiries from customers and potential customers, the complaint said. “In fact, Zoom did not provide end-to-end encryption for any Zoom Meeting that was conducted outside of Zoom’s ‘Connecter’ product (which are hosted on a customer’s own servers), because Zoom’s servers—including some located in China—maintain the cryptographic keys that would allow Zoom to access the content of its customers’ Zoom Meetings,” the FTC complaint said.

The FTC announcement said that Zoom also “misled some users who wanted to store recorded meetings on the company’s cloud storage by falsely claiming that those meetings were encrypted immediately after the meeting ended. Instead, some recordings allegedly were stored unencrypted for up to 60 days on Zoom’s servers before being transferred to its secure cloud storage.”

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Second try.

EU Goes After Amazon For Breaching European Antitrust Rules (RT)

The European Commission (EC) announced a second formal investigation into online retailer Amazon on Tuesday, accusing the firm of breaching European antitrust rules by using independent sellers’ data for its own benefit. The EC said that Amazon was using the data of third-party sellers, such as order numbers, revenues and numbers of visitors, to inform its strategic business decisions, like reducing the price of products. The e-commerce giant plays a dual role – both selling products itself, and acting as a platform for independent (and sometimes rival) sellers. “Data on the activity of third-party sellers should not be used to the benefit of Amazon when it acts as a competitor to these sellers,” said EU’s competition chief Margrethe Vestager.


Amazon disagreed with the Commission’s assertions, saying it “will continue to make every effort to ensure it has an accurate understanding of the facts.” It also said that represents less than one percent of the global retail market. “No company cares more about small businesses or has done more to support them over the past two decades than Amazon,” it said. In July 2019, the EC, the executive arm of the European Union, launched a probe into Amazon due to concerns over anti-competitive behavior. This time, the antitrust investigation will look at how the company chooses which sellers offer products via Amazon Prime, its paid-for premium service. It will investigate the possible preferential treatment of Amazon’s own retail business and those that use its logistics and delivery services (known as “fulfilment by Amazon” sellers) over other sellers.

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Article in Sydney Morning Herald, September 25 2019 about hay fever says: “This article was originally published in 2018 and has since been updated.”

How is it possible it’s talking about COVID19 in Sep 2019 at the latest? Didn’t we not know about it till December? What did I miss?

Why Do Some People Get Hay Fever And What Can They Do About It? (SMH)

In any other year, an errant sniff or explosive sneeze might be met with an offer of a tissue or a polite “bless you” – but the deadly COVID-19 pandemic has made us extremely cautious, for good reason. Thankfully, Melburnians dreading a tough hay fever season behind masks can breathe a (stifled) sigh of relief. Good late summer and autumn rains were followed by a dry winter, leaving the soils of western Victoria’s grazing lands more parched than last year. This is likely to keep pollen-producing grasses to a minimum – and itchy, running noses to just a drip.

[..] … and does it relate to COVID-19? While there are some similar symptoms: a cough, runny nose, shortness of breath or difficulty breathing (the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention released a Venn diagram that neatly illustrates the symptoms of both), there is no evidence of a link between the two. But Professor Katelaris says there is plenty of evidence to show that when the nasal lining is inflamed, it is easier to catch any virus. So those suffering from allergies should try to keep symptoms in check: seek medical advice on treatments, avoid touching your eyes and nose at all times and head straight for the nearest COVID-19 testing station if you experience allergic symptoms for the first time.

Professor Douglass says if it’s just hay fever, it’s highly unlikely you’ll experience the fevers, sore throats and general aches and pains associated with COVID-19. “[They] are more typical of a respiratory infection than hay fever … sneezing, an itchy throat and eyes are more typical of allergic symptoms,” she says.

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    Hokusai VIews of Mount Fuji: Ejiri in Suruga Province 1831

    Sublime…
    Reminds me Of Akira Kurosawa’s movie Dreams…especially the dream, Sunshine in the Rainand The Water Wheel Village

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    Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

    Oh really?!
    Then pray tell; just how did Thailand record less than 4,000 total cases and 60 deaths?
    Please don’t waste my time telling me those are false numbers, bad reporting, or any other bullshit!
    You asked for any place where reporting and tracking were effective: I answered that but got zero response from you.
    Thailand and Asia in general have had great success in holding the CV-19 to bay…
    It is not propaganda or any other manipulation of statistics; it’s a bloody fact.
    Boogaloo has likewise confirmed this (Korea) as has a poster from Japan (his name escapes at the moment).
    Hello!!!!!!

    #65408

    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    I always thought it was pretty ridiculous that Michael Flynn was somehow guilty of something because he had informal conversations with Russian government officials. Wasn’t that just part of the job he was supposed to do? It really underlined how the whole Russia-Gate thing was just a five-gallon bucket of pure hysteria.

    #65409

    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    My thought for the day on Covid: The virus is known to be especially hard on people with medical preconditions and poor health in general. That’s why I think it hits populous nations with very large gaps between the rich and the poor (being very poor is very bad for your health) such as the United States, Brazil, Mexico, and India, so harshly.

    #65410

    VA,

    It’s a doctor’s interpretation of a large scale study. Don’t shoot the piano player. The conversation we had with Korea and Japan was about masks, IIRC. And I did respond. But I still don’t know what other factors might play a role. General behavior may be very different because of the memories of SARS etc.

    #65411

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    The conversation we had with Korea and Japan was about masks, IIRC.

    No; your question was specifficaly about contact tracing.
    I’m not about to shoot the piano player; but the songs he/she plays… ‘-)

    #65412

    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    Very large study, interpreted.: .. no correlation whatsoever between severity of lockdown and number of covid deaths. [..] there was no correlation between mass testing and covid deaths either, for that matter. Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

    This has been obvious for some time now. As Alex Berenson has been saying “virus is going to virus”.

    However, governments with the aid of a complicit press can ramp up virus panic and then use that to enact further tyrannical policies.

    We need to throw out all of the government policies regarding the coronavirus and just take the hit on the chin. Lockdowns, masks, testing and tracing are all a gigantic waste of effort. Even if it kills a billion people (vastly unlikely), time to just get on with it. And with any luck, it will knock off a bunch of those doddering old fools in charge of government, academia and corporations too.

    #65413

    Dr. D
    Participant

    “Trump’s voter fraud lawsuits are not about contradicting the will of all the people — just the Black ones”

    Super weird since he made massive gains with these very groups.

    Trump Destroyed Democrat’s Race Card FOREVER, Minorities Moved Republican” –Pool

    Facts. Evidence. Bored already. Let’s just print some stuff I made up and didn’t check.

    “Very large study, interpreted.: .. no correlation whatsoever between severity of lockdown and number of covid deaths. [..] there was no correlation between mass testing and covid deaths either, for that matter. Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.”

    As predicted. As easily seen in the first 4 weeks using “Science.” Ah Science, we never knew ya. Come back, come back, yon Science. Nope. Lockdown until BOTH your kids AND grandma AND all basic human rights are gone. Including the right to sing and to smile. The right to live and to die. Chattel slavery at last.

    “Brennan et al Spooked Over Suggestion Trump May ‘Declassify Everything’ (RT)”

    They’re all so honest and upstanding they don’t want us to know what they’ve done. And we paid for and have the rights to. Ah Democracy, we never knew ya.

    “Because a court decided to (among other things) extend the time ballots could come in. And only the legislature has that power.”

    Not only that, in other cases they ignored a direct, immediate court order. Like when they boarded up windows. But I’m sure the election lawsuits are all spurious. With 100 people on record as saying they were illegally ejected from their posts.

    49% In New Poll Say Biden Is Legitimate Winner Of Election; 34% Say Trump (JTN)”

    These polls from the same people who were just wrong by 30 points in some states? I’m sure they’re totally accurate. What did I say about being impossible to be discredited? They will never have to worry about looking for another job? Here we go: like CNN, no matter how wrong, for how many decades, “Appeal to Authority” still transcends facts and evidence. Not even death can cure it.

    “Mathematical Evidence The Election Was Stolen (Lt. Col. James Zumwalt)”

    I find this pretty compelling. Problem is, the population is so math illiterate they will stab themselves in the eye before asking what 99.97% means. Also, the stats are off, so what? There could be perfectly good explanations. That only indicates to accountants and policemen to go look and find out: That they don’t want to look is my real proof of smoke and fire.

    “Any hope of Trump retaining the Oval Office rests on irrefutable proof of voting fraud.”

    No it doesn’t. Like the other side, you COULD just run politics. You know, just make s—t up about how the President was a Putin Puppet since 1987, years before Putin or his nation existed, that serial gang rapists are roaming about the Federal Judiciary, that we just impeach…for nothing we can name actually. We COULD do that. In which case, PA need not care a whit about allegations, truth, and just send any electors they jolly well feel like. So there’s no “irrefutable”. No such thing in law exists. Plausible evidence will suffice, and when you have 100 signed affidavits, there’s far more than “plausible.” But nice moving the goal posts back into the stands. You think the other team won’t notice. “What a bunch of a-holes.” –GotG

    “Biden Camp is Already Working With Foreign Leaders, Like Flynn Did (Greenwald)”

    Huh. Super funny. They’re supposed to write a memo that says “what are we trying to accomplish here, an arrest, or to have him lose his job?” then go down and arrest them all on the Logan Act after 50 de-masking requests in the White House. I mean, that’s what we do now, right? When you’re going to “stop the transition team” illegally?

    And yet…somehow…they are NOT doing that. Not once. No arrests, no FBI interviews, no Logan Act. They follow the law and custom. Isn’t that STRANGE to anyone yet? 100% of the time they say they don’t follow law and custom and 100% of the time they do? Don’t worry, if all pollsters and all media can be totally dead wrong for decades and still be breathlessly fawned over, it will take centuries for any discrediting and re-adjusting to occur over this. Millennia perhaps.

    Biden Team Considers Legal Action To Force Formal Transition Of Power (NYP)”

    Please, please, PLEASE do this. Because the first and every court would say, “You have no standing whatsoever. There is no legal winner confirmed anywhere in the U.S.” Bye. But you know: lies. More lies. Then lies on THOSE lies with more lies on the lies.

    Buzzfeed is not the U.S. Legal system if you hadn’t noticed. The Associated Press is not the Federal Courts even if they pretend to be. Only state Legislatures and the GSA have legal standing. Even Politifact refuses to call it…because that’s the legal and actual fact. There’s nothing to concede. There are no results yet. As expected. As predicted. Heck, Podesta’s TIP Project SAID they would do this back in July. Said it in USA Today. Is everyone on earth an illiterate goldfish now but me?

    So anyway, yes, Biden has to THREATEN to do this in order to get maximum violence in the streets and maximum murders when it’s reversed. But he can’t ACTUALLY do this. Just like HRC. She has to CLAIM Putin stole the election (without evidence). But she can’t ACTUALLY call for a legal recount as was her legal right. And duty, even. Because then they would find all the election fraud Jill Stein revealed in Detroit. Instead: innuendo and lies for 1,470 days and counting. If you know something Ms. Rodham: BRING IT TO THE COURTS. If you have a felony, and don’t bring it to the courts, YOU ARE AN ACCESSORY. This is your public duty.

    As with Biden. They do not.

    “AI Software Verified Mail-In Ballots in Key Swing States (Whitney Webb)”

    So…nobody looked at 80% of the key ballots. Am I reading that right?

    Don’t worry: all the lawsuits are spurious and will soon be thrown out.

    Fox Joins MSM, Forcing Millions Of Americans To The Media Fringes (Bridge)”

    Thank God they finally realized “Fox” was short for “in the henhouse”. I wondered what it would take. 7 wars and $4T of their money wasn’t adequate.

    “Biden Aide Signals Push For Greater Censorship On The Internet (Turley)”

    Greater censorship and death-and-purge lists going up all over, like CNN, Congresswomen, etc. Yay! Love, tolerance, reconciliation, healing. The side of the Angels.

    Nations? Yes, but what does THIS study of THESE nations say? They say the nations did very different things, soft hard, early late, no difference. Great: A study. NOW let’s go over to Thailand, Africa, Japan and ask why, when they ALSO didn’t do a lot of these things, they also have no cases. That’s a different study. Guess? Africa = Vit D + widespread HCQ. As possibly Thailand. Japan different social mores and very different tracing response. You know: one based on Science.

    But this study DOES eliminate 1) masks 2) lockdowns 3) tests. So can we move to something that works now, please? It’s only been a year with 70 million idiots like me, plus 10,000 MDs saying it Every. Day. And Fauci being Dead. Wrong. Every. Day. It hurts.

    #65414

    upstateNYer
    Participant

    I haven’t commented in a while but am going to jump in on today’s discussion on the interpretation of the study on factors impacting COVID.

    V Arnold defends Thailand’s low case and death count. Indeed, Japan, Korea and other countries have managed to do the same.

    Oddly enough, India and Greece are also managing to keep numbers pretty darned low if you take a look at their total population count and, in some areas, the living conditions of people. I selected these two countries as a question mark because a) India has extremely dense population areas with extreme poverty and people living in squalor, and b) Greece has refugee camps with extreme density and people living in squalor. These are people without adequate access to even clean water and sanitation facilities. How is it possible there aren’t refugees dying in droves in Greece? Corpses piling up in the slums in India?

    Woldometer as of yesterday (bit of rounding on the numbers):

    Thailand, 70 million people, 4,000 cases, 60 deaths
    Greece, 10 million people, 60,000 cases, 860 deaths
    India, 1.4 billion people, 8.6 million cases, 127,000 deaths
    US, 330,000 million people, 8.6 million cases, 128,000 deaths
    NY state (my home state), 20,000 million people, 575,000 cases, 34,000 deaths

    So here’s what I continue to ponder: NYS did hard lock down initially (mid march – everything shut down). We continue to socially distance, wear masks, remote learn, quarantine visitors, test, trace, etc., etc., etc. All of the stuff that supposedly ends the spread. Yet here we are … still spreading the disease to some extent (Gov Cuomo has a system for implementing lock down measures in state hot spots based on positive testing rates and other data. It’s lovely).

    Riddle me this: how are Greece refugee camps and India slums able to keep spread low despite deplorable living conditions that also obviously impact a person’s overall health … but Western countries can’t?

    How did Thailand keep deaths to 60? That is about HALF of the deaths in the county where I live in upstate NY that has a population of 460,000 (217 deaths here as of yesterday).

    Sorry … I don’t believe Thailand (as an example), India’s slums and Greece’s refugee camps are doing everything right and Western countries are just plain too dumb to fix the problem.

    I’m open to explanations for these glaring inconsistencies, although I’d prefer not to focus entirely on “overweight and older” and “masks” as the only causes for it. The inconsistencies are far too extreme. No longer buying that.

    I’m thinking it’s time to give the nod to Dr D and his, um, passionate expositions, about the true reason for turning coronavirus into a pandemic.

    #65415

    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Article in Sydney Morning Herald, September 25 2019 about hay fever says: “This article was originally published in 2018 and has since been updated.”

    How is it possible it’s talking about COVID19 in Sep 2019 at the latest? Didn’t we not know about it till December? What did I miss?”

    Here is an interesting timeline:

    “The Central Banks are behind the protests, directly or indirectly. This is the timeline:
    Oct 2018 – While CNN were jumping and shrieking like caged animals about Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, the U.S. government was very busy with something else: it passed FASAB-56 allowing any and all government financial accounts to become secret.
    Aug 2019 – Central bankers from around the world met at Jackson Hole and proposed “Going Direct”, while Bank of England governor Mark Carney said the world needed a global mechanism to replace the dollar.

    The banks had circled their wagons, they were ready to reset the monetary system.
    Sep 2019 – the Federal Reserve intervened to flood the repo market (global cash market) with cash (liquidity M1 up 21%, M2 up 31%).
    World Economic Forum published The Great Reset , “the marketing document for the non financial people of exactly what’s going on,” says Catherine Austin Fitts.
    Jan-Feb 2020 – the smart money exits the market. Medical martial law is used to shut down small business and farms throwing them into debt entrapment from which they cannot escape. Emerging Markets are dependent on foreign currency (as a peg or shadow currency) so they cannot print money. They are going bankrupt and will be recolonized. This has the potential to expand slavery on an individual and intercontinental level.

    Where this is leading: A digital payments system is being proposed, linked to a chip in every individual or digital tattoo. This would allow the abolition of cash and its replacement with vouchers and rationing based on energy use – in line with the climate lobby’s longstanding proposals. The same chip would allow the collectivist management of every aspect of individual lives. George Orwell called this The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism.”

    #65416

    Mr. House
    Participant

    “How is it possible it’s talking about COVID19 in Sep 2019 at the latest? Didn’t we not know about it till December? What did I miss?”

    I don’t remember hearing anything about it until at least Jan.

    #65417

    Mr. House
    Participant
    #65418

    John Day
    Participant

    What is the link between population response and governmental mandate?
    It is highly variable, right?
    In Texas, a very large state, I live in Austin, the state capital, and also “silicon hills”. We have a compliance-economy. It has gotten expensive to live here, so it is populated by people who are well paid to comply.
    In Lubbock and El Paso the viral cases ae running rampant, but not in Austin. People in Austin started working from home (techies can) in early April, before spring break, as soon as South By Southwest was canceled. “THATS SERIOUS”, they thought out loud. There was a summer vacation viral peak here, but it shut down and stayed down by the second half of July. Austin strictly complied with the July 2 (toothless) “mandate” to mask in public buildings. Other areas were very slow to comply and are notably slipping back to (gasp) masklessness.
    This is my street level observation, traveling the 2 hour drive between Austin and rural (fracking area, cattle ranches) Yoakum weekly.

    #65419

    zerosum
    Participant

    Raúl Ilargi Meijer, You Kicked the killer wasp nest this morning
    The web tells secrets and gossips
    …… whistleblower

    • Brennan et al Spooked Over Suggestion Trump May ‘Declassify Everything’ (RT)

    ———-
    Where should we spend billions of dollars?
    • Does Lockdown Prevent COVID Deaths? (Rushworth MD)
    the reseachers who put this study together gathered an enormous amount of data, pretty much everything they could think of under the sun that might in some way correlate with covid statistics.
    Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.

    ———-
    Different tune.

    It is customary for post-election transition officials to work with their counterparts in foreign governments to lay the groundwork for relations with the new administration.
    Here are the enablers.

    https://buildbackbetter.com/the-transition/agency-review-teams/
    AGENCY REVIEW TEAMS
    Meet the Biden-Harris agency review teams
    ——-
    Pump and Dump
    Pfizer’s CEO Dumps 62% Of His Stock On COVID Vaccine Announcement
    ——
    Russia Says ‘Sputnik 5’ COVID-19 Vaccine “92% Effective”
    —–
    Futures Jump And This Time Tech Stocks Join The Party
    —–

    And the winner will be ….

    Democrats and Republicans can do the same thing ….. “Batches of ballots were repeatedly run through the vote tabulation machines…”

    #65420

    Mr. House
    Participant
    #65421

    John Day
    Participant

    1) I have always been fond of Hokusai’s work. I have 2 Hokusai prints hanging and copied a Mt Fuji painting of his into a mural in college.
    2) Here is an edgier view of Rupert’s change of cmps to what I’ll call Bush-Clinton.

    Rupert Murdoch-Owned Media Turns on Trump, Urges Him to Cooperate With the Regime Coup Against Him

    #65422

    zerosum
    Participant

    @ upstateNYer
    Right on!
    The inconsistencies are far too extreme.
    I agree. I’ve been presenting examples of info that does not compute since I read about the declaration of the pandemic.

    #65423

    Noirette
    Participant

    “Basically, nothing that various world governments have done to combat covid seems to have had any effect whatsoever on the number of deaths.”

    Rushworth points out the statistical ‘problems’ or what should be termed more mildly imho as “difficulties.” These all have to do with the pitfalls of correlational studies and the attendant p-values or probabilities that are decided on. He rightly points out that if you do a heap of correlations some of them will be positive, show a relationship, but will be ’accidental’ and meaningless, not worthy of attention.

    Imho the ‘problem’ with the conclusion – I don’t dispute that no effect of ‘lockdown’ was found (although obviously ‘lockdown’ is very varied and actually assigning a category or ‘score’ for it would be a whole other complex endeavor, with the differences between country’s measures, their societies, pop density, compliance, etc.) is that the time span of the data gathered was super-short:

    April 1 to May 1, 2020, and spread over 50 countries. Thus there was no possibility of finding a correlation, as lock-downs were variously: over after a short time, a long time, still on the books, put on early, late…. etc. (Besides never implemented, poorly implemented, etc.) The same goes for masks.

    The effect of this kind of public health measure takes time – at the *very least* 2 weeks to show an effect, and those times have to be taken into account to study the matter. So no effect was found.

    #65430

    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    “Rupert Murdoch-Owned Media Turns on Trump, Urges Him to Cooperate With the Regime Coup Against Him” – Anti-Empire

    From the article above: “Top editors at the Post have “told some staff members this week to be tougher in their coverage” of Trump, the New York Times reported, citing two anonymous employees of the paper.”

    So there you have it. All that’s needed now is for Rudy Giuliani to be found hanging from his shower curtain and the election is over. Falsehood and evil triumph once again. Whom the Gods would destroy they first make mad… and all that stuff. Those stupid philosophers didn’t know what they were talking about. The stock market’s at all-time highs and things couldn’t be better. Next stop, Shangri-La. We know what’s best for you. That’s why we occupy these high positions of power and you don’t.

    “What! Would you so soon put out, with worldly hands, the light I give?” – Ghost of Christmas Past

    Yes, put out with worldly hands any light that tries to shine forth to illuminate truth. Anything that might lead to a “reclamation” – a turning from the path of destruction. Turn it on its head. Stomp on it. Censor it. Kill it if you must. Yes, kill the light. Kill truth. Give us Barabbas!

    A little over-the-top, you say? We shall see.

    #65434

    upstateNYer
    Participant

    Obviously a ridiculously stupid typo in my original comment above:

    “NY state (my home state), 20,000 million people, 575,000 cases, 34,000 deaths”

    “20,000 million” people. Yes, we are wall-to-wall people here in NY, in case anyone who is wondering.

    That should be 20 million people.

    #65439

    Mr. House
    Participant
    #65440

    a kullervo
    Participant

    Don’t fret
    Future’s nigh
    Both dead
    You and I

    Greetings,

    Almost a year into this low-spectrum epidemic and references to differences between regions/countries/ethnicities* concerning dietary regimes, frugality, restraint and other cultural/behavioral traits with a real impact on human health/longevity remain conspicuously absent from the debate.

    Why?

    Because individuals, regardless of their educational level, will always find a way to validate their own petty biases. It’s called idiocy and it’s just a factor more playing a relevant role in humans’ natural comorbidity.

    * Do you have a better explanation for the mortality rate of African Americans vis-à-vis the epidemic’s general impact in Africa?

    #65442

    Maxwell Quest
    Participant


    MIT PhD Analysis of Michigan Votes Reveals Unfortunate Truth of U.S. Voting Systems

    For those that are able to speak the language of math, the above presentation is pretty conclusive proof that a software algorithm was used in the vote tabulation computer systems to prune votes from Trump and give them to Biden. What does the data say? The stronger Trump did in a particular precinct the more of his votes were siphoned off and transferred to Biden.

    #65444

    zerosum
    Participant

    Billion, and billions of $, dollars being transferred from one pocket to another pocket with holes in it.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/europe-pay-lower-price-pfizer-covid-vaccine-us

    The bloc will pay less than $19.50 per shot, a senior EU official involved in talks with vaccine makers told Reuters, adding that partly reflected the financial support given by the EU and Germany for the drug’s development.

    The official requested anonymity as the terms of the agreement are confidential.

    The United States agreed to pay $19.50 per shot for 100 million doses, a smaller volume than the EU. But it has an option to buy a further 500 million under terms to be negotiated separately, and the price it will pay is unclear.
    Details needed.
    https://www.thebalancesmb.com/retail-shipping-terms-fob-2890156
    What Does Free or Freight On Board (FOB) Mean?
    If the FOB terms of sale indicate that it is “FOB delivered,” then this implies that the shipper will be responsible for all of the carrier’s costs. If the terms of sale show “FOB origin,” then this means that the buyer will take the title of the goods when they are shipped, and they will incur all the transportation costs from the shipping location to the final destination.

    In the USA , YOU will hafetopay way more than $20.00 per vaccine shot.

    #65445

    Perhaps Thailand (for example) didn’t run 40+ cycles on their not-for-diagnosis PCR tests. Maybe they didn’t use them much at all, but relied on a doctor’s confirmed diagnosis. Maybe they confirmed it as a death from Covid ™ when it was only that- a death from a respiratory virus. Maybe they considered a death from heart disease “with” the virus as a death from heart disease?

    The West absolutely wanted panic- still wants panic. The picture is becoming clearer and clearer as the US is being set up for civil unrest. We are being played.

    Dr. Shiva’s video is very good. As someone pointed out elsewhere: Biden didn’t have to campaign. They knew what they were going to do. It was also mentioned in that same elsewhere that they were using the same stuff in 2016, but it crashed. It explains Clinton’s monstrous behavior election night. It’s a wonder she didn’t stroke out.
    Salvo after salvo- and most people don’t even know we are under attack.
    Write it on copper and bury it deep in the ground. A thousand years from now, someone may want to know what went on as the American Empire collapsed and took the world with it. They certainly aren’t going to find it in any official records.

    #65446

    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    What else can we infer from Dr. Shiva’s MI voter data analysis posted above?

    Obviously, the people running this Juan Guaidó-like coup attempt are idiots. They are not your “betters”. They are certainly light years from the genius of an Alan Turing, inspiration for the movie The Imitation Game in which cracking the Nazi Enigma code machine helped turn the tide of the war. This required the use of statistical analysis, allowing the Allied Powers to win some battles, lose others, but yet win the war. All without alerting the Nazis that their unbreakable code machine had, in fact, been broken.

    What do we see in the Michigan voter data? That the coup leaders rushed into service a stupid linear algorithm to steal votes from Trump and transfer to Biden. Instead of a sophisticated, statistically-based algorithm, difficult to detect, they instead used a sledgehammer. This does not even take into account all the ballet stuffing. Now all the world knows that the US is in fact a banana republic, with idiots at the helm.

    Just how they are going to make all this publicly available evidence go away, I don’t know. And just how are they going to convince everyone who saw this brazen display of voter fraud that they really didn’t see it?

    #65447

    Mr. House
    Participant

    Can’t get enough of this

    #65448

    zerosum
    Participant

    ” ,,,, the US is in fact a banana republic, with idiots at the helm….
    Just how they are going to make all this publicly available evidence go away, I don’t know. And just how are they going to convince everyone who saw this brazen display of voter fraud that they really didn’t see it?”

    No problem ….. just like before

    no proof of wrong doing …. take it to court
    plausible deniability
    deny, deny deny….That’s not evidence
    (Remember the election in Venuzuela)

    #65453

    Bill7
    Participant

    my-parents-said-know said:

    > The West absolutely wanted panic- still wants panic. The picture is becoming clearer and clearer as the US is being set up for civil unrest. We are being played.

    Absolutely, my friend.. that’s what the maximal-chaos-by-design mcElection is about, as well.

    Cui bono?

    #65455

    zerosum
    Participant

    For the last 4 years we have seen and heard the democrats and Hillary saying that Trump had not won the election etc.
    So, be prepared to hear the same thing about Biden from the republicans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tit_for_tat
    See also
    Attitude polarization
    Chicken (game)
    Christmas truce
    Deterrence theory
    Eye for an eye
    Golden Rule
    Mutual assured destruction
    Nice Guys Finish First, a documentary by Richard Dawkins that discusses tit for tat.
    Quid pro quo
    Trigger strategy, a set of strategies of which tit for tat is a member.
    Virtuous circle and vicious circle
    Zero-sum game

    #65480

    Noirette
    Participant

    “Do you have a better explanation for the mortality rate of African Americans vis-à-vis the epidemic’s general impact in Africa?” .. I will answer it:

    North America (and S America as well) have been hit much much harder by Covid than Africa, see link (to and FT graphic) which shows deaths, a kind of hard number – though there may be reporting glitches nonetheless.

    https://on.ft.com/2IluZHe

    So by definition African-Americans, who live in the US, are more affected than their African brothers. Why? Because a black man in NY meets 189 ppl to talk to and be close to, in his service day job, take the metro, goes to a bar with his g-f and then to a disco, the next day he goes to church… His counterpart in Burundi meets in a day 17 ppl (plus 30 but just hello hello), all the encounters take place outside, he goes home to wife and two children, in an airy hut, that’s it. Oh, and: the NY chap is overweight, the Burundi man skinny as a rake.

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