Dec 162020
 
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Henri Cartier-Bresson Trafalgar Square on the Day of the Coronation of George VI 1937

 

Yes, HCQ Is Scientifically Proven Against COVID-19 (Rafaeli)
Swedish PM: Medical Chiefs Failed Us With Light Touch (Times)
The Most Lethal Virus is Not COVID. It is War (John Pilger)
COVID19 Relief Draft Provides $100 Billion Double-Dip Tax Deduction (Fang)
Trump Asking About Special Prosecutor For Hunter Biden (AP)
Pennsylvania Republicans Ask SCOTUS To Again Review Election Lawsuit (ET)
Michigan Legislature Committees Subpoena Election Evidence (JTN)
DNI Declassifies Brennan Notes, 2016 CIA Referral On Clinton Campaign (Fed)
Facebook, Twitter Execs Donated Big To Biden While Blocking Hunter News (NYP)
McConnell Takes Checks from Voting Machine Lobbyists (RS)
Hackers Used SolarWinds’ Dominance Against It In Sprawling Spy Campaign
Pompeo: Russia Sowing ‘Chaos, Conflict, And Division’ In Mediterranean (JTN)

 

 

 

 

Very long, I haven’t read the whole thing yet. Still, when it’s about saving lives, including your own… might as well read it..

Yes, HCQ Is Scientifically Proven Against COVID-19 (Rafaeli)

In this article I am not going to simply transform the treatment with HCQ (an acronym for hydroxychloroquine) from “not promising”, as the New York Times qualifies it, to “promising”. I will explain that it is scientifically proven, and in every possible scientific way. In addition, I will explain how and why the biggest journalistic blackout in human history is taking place right now. Yes, that’s right. I’m telling you here that the New York Times and almost all the other mainstream media are doing dirty, lousy quality journalism. As a result of this amateurism, a seismic tremor of gigantic proportions is being created at the moment, and without precedent, in the credibility of the mainstream world press, with unpredictable consequences for humanity in the coming decades.

And I warn you right now. I have no concern in producing a short article. There are many analyses to be done, nuances to be approached and many details that cannot be left out. The farce is so big and with so many actors, that it’ s almost unbelievable that it can be dismantled with day-to-day facts and simple logic There are scientific articles, facts and figures that no one wants to report or discuss. These studies have not become news in the major media nor have been cited by science journalists, but they have impacts like Muhammad Ali’s punches in the logic of those who claim that the drug does not work. Here they will come to the public. My main point of view in this article is the evolution of the arguments of people who insist that the drug is ineffective against COVID-19.

This is my third article on the subject. In the first one (in French, English, Portuguese), three months ago, I explained my personal view. I had the goal of making a choice between taking or not these drugs, in case of catching the virus. In it I have spoken about the political scenario and the incredible logical flaws of those who claim that the treatment does not work. I discussed how the “official story” is an incredible conspiracy theory and explained how the false narrative about this medication was formed, all in a timeline. In my second article, I lamented the shameful censorship, pretending to be of service to society, that has been present in today’s world. In addition, I explained the inversion of ideological values, in the West, between right and left, when dealing with this topic. (Originally published on France-Soir in French. Also with versions in Portuguese and English).

Now I write this third article, where I bring all the main news from the scientific world in the last three months. It is to disassemble the last arguments of those who say it doesn’t work. The world is standing still. There is panic and fear in the global population. More than one million three hundred thousand people have died. For the vast majority of these victims, a cure with a high percentage of success has been neglected. Another millions are depressed, with no prospect of life and happiness. All due to a perfect storm and gross errors. All conveniently taken advantage of by petty interests.

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All too common refrain: “I did not fail, all the others did.”

Swedish PM: Medical Chiefs Failed Us With Light Touch (Times)

Sweden’s health experts misjudged the resurgence of the coronavirus by recommending a light-touch approach, the prime minister said. The country, which has pursued a form of herd immunity strategy under Anders Tegnell, its chief epidemiologist, has been hit so hard by the second wave of infections that hospitals in Stockholm are struggling to cope. Stefan Lofven, the prime minister, told the Aftenposten newspaper that his medical advisers had not seen such a wave coming. “They talked about different clusters,” he said. Sweden’s neighbours, Finland and Norway, which adopted stricter social controls and have suffered fewer fatalities per capita, have offered medical help after Stockholm reported that 99 per cent of intensive care unit (ICU) beds were full and called for more staff.

Mr Lofven, who leads a Social Democrat-Green Party coalition, spoke hours before a commission examining Sweden’s handling of the pandemic concluded that it had failed to protect elderly people during the first wave. A high level of community spread was the biggest factor in the virus getting into care homes, the commission said. Sweden’s pandemic strategy, shunning lockdowns and masks, has been much debated as an alternative approach to tougher curbs. Schools, restaurants and businesses were largely left open while people were advised to maintain social distance and hygiene. The strategy was coupled with a goal to “ring-fence” the most vulnerable. As deaths mounted, especially at nursing homes, the commission said that it had failed to do so effectively.

The approach has been called reckless and cruel but it also won praise from people seeing it as more sustainable and business-friendly. About half of Sweden’s almost 7700 deaths have been nursing home residents. The country now faces a significant rise in cases and fatalities. Its statistical agency recorded a total of 8088 deaths from all causes last month, the highest mortality in any November in Sweden since the first year of the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918, when 16,600 people died. Since Friday 153 people have died from COVID-19 related causes, bringing the total to 7,667. There have been 320,000 confirmed cases.

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Word.

The Most Lethal Virus is Not COVID. It is War (John Pilger)

Not a year has passed since peace was declared in 1945 that Britain has not sent military forces to fight the wars of empire. Not a year has passed when countries, mostly poor and riven by conflict, have not bought or have been “soft loaned” British arms to further the wars, or “interests”, of empire. Empire? What empire? The investigative journalist Phil Miller recently revealed in Declassified that Boris Johnson’s Britain maintained 145 military sites – call them bases — in 42 countries. Johnson has boasted that Britain is to be “the foremost naval power in Europe”. In the midst of the greatest health emergency in modern times, with more than 4 million surgical procedures delayed by the National Health Service, Johnson has announced a record increase of £16.5 billion in so-called defence spending – a figure that would restore the under-resourced NHS many times over.

But these billions are not for defence. Britain has no enemies other than those within who betray the trust of its ordinary people, its nurses and doctors, its carers, elderly, homeless and youth, as successive neo-liberal governments have done, Conservative and Labour. Exploring the serenity of the National War Memorial, I soon realised there was not a single monument, or plinth, or plaque, or rosebush honouring the memory of Britain’s victims — the civilians in the “peacetime” operations commemorated here. There is no remembrance of the Libyans killed when their country was wilfully destroyed by Prime Minister David Cameron and his collaborators in Paris and Washington.

There is no word of regret for the Serbian women and children killed by British bombs, dropped from a safe height on schools, factories, bridges, towns, on the orders of Tony Blair; or for the impoverished Yemeni children extinguished by Saudi pilots with their logistics and targets supplied by Britons in the air-conditioned safety of Riyadh; or for the Syrians starved by “sanctions”. There is no monument to the Palestinian children murdered with the British elite’s enduring connivance, such as the recent campaign that destroyed a modest reform movement within the Labour Party with specious accusations of anti-Semitism.

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Capitol Hill is simply incapable of getting these, the most basic of things, right.

COVID19 Relief Draft Provides $100 Billion Double-Dip Tax Deduction (Fang)

A draft of coronavirus relief legislation, circulated by a bipartisan group of lawmakers, eschews direct payments to average Americans but contains an unusually generous handout to the very wealthy. The draft legislation, the Bipartisan Emergency COVID Relief Act of 2020, was released this week as part of a package of two major bills to confront the ongoing crisis. The draft of the first bill circulating on Capitol Hill contains a number of adjustments to the Paycheck Protection Program, the forgivable loan program that has served as the centerpiece of the government’s efforts to curb job loss stemming from the pandemic.

Many of the changes provide extended eligibility for expenses that can be reimbursed by the PPP program, including damage from looting and costs associated with cloud computing, as well as the construction of sneeze guards and other safety measures implemented by businesses. But one of the revisions in the legislation is a subtle yet radical change that would result in a major windfall for the highest-income Americans and large corporations. The bill provides that businesses claiming expenses reimbursed by PPP forgivable loans, which are already tax-free, can be further used as deductions when calculating taxable income. In other words, the change would allow a corporation that claimed $1 million in PPP reimbursements to apply that money as a deduction on its tax return, reducing taxable income by $1 million.

Critics of this idea, first circulated by a bipartisan set of legislators last summer, note that it provides an unprecedented tax advantage that overwhelmingly benefits investors and high-net-worth professionals. IRS rules have long prohibited tax-free government grants and reimbursements from being used as deductions. Steven Rosenthal, a tax expert with the Tax Policy Center, writing in his blog TaxVox, has noted that the proposal represents a “double dip” that abandons longstanding tax norms to provide “overly generous relief” that rewards “savvy, well-connected business and crowds out relief for others, undercutting the effectiveness of Congress’ aid.”

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Baseless, blah blah.

Trump Asking About Special Prosecutor For Hunter Biden (AP)

President Donald Trump is considering pushing to have a special counsel appointed to advance a federal tax investigation into the son of President-elect Joe Biden, setting up a potential showdown with incoming acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen.Trump — angry that out-going Attorney General William Barr didn’t publicly announce the ongoing, two-year investigation into Hunter Biden — has consulted on the matter with White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, White House counsel Pat Cipollone and outside allies. That’s according to several Trump administration officials and Republicans close to the White House who spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity to discuss private matters.

Beyond appointing a special prosecutor to investigate the younger Biden, the sources said Trump is interested in having another special counsel appointed to look into his own baseless claims of election fraud. But if he’s expecting his newly named acting attorney general to go further than Barr on either matter, he could end up quickly disappointed.Barr on Monday evening announced he will resign effective next week, revealing his plans about a week after Hunter Biden publicly disclosed that he was under investigation related to his finances. It is generally Justice Department policy not to disclose investigations that are in progress, though the subjects of those investigations can. Rosen, the deputy attorney general, will step into the Justice Department’s top job in an acting role.

A longtime litigator, he has served as Barr’s top deputy since May 2019 but largely shies away from the spotlight. He said in a statement Tuesday he was “honored” to serve and “will continue to focus on the implementation of the Department’s key priorities.” Trump is still weighing his options, considering whether to pressure Rosen to make the special counsel appointment or, if needed, to replace the acting attorney general with someone more likely to carry out his wishes. He has even asked his team of lawyers, including personal attorney Rudy Giuliani, to look into whether the president has the power to appoint a special counsel himself. A key question will be whether Rosen can stand up to presidential pressure — and potentially withering attacks — in the waning weeks of the Trump administration. If not, Rosen could be cast aside in favor of others more willing to do Trump’s bidding.

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Watching the dice roll…

Pennsylvania Republicans Ask SCOTUS To Again Review Election Lawsuit (ET)

A group of Republicans in Pennsylvania on Tuesday has again urged the U.S. Supreme Court to take up their lawsuit that challenges the 2020 election results in the state. The nation’s top court had previously rejected the group’s request for immediate injunctive relief to block Pennsylvania from taking further steps to certify the 2020 election results. At the time, the group’s lawyer, Greg Teufel, said the case was not over because his clients were planning to file a formal petition to ask the court to review the lawsuit, which they hadn’t filed the first time. The lawyer filed a petition for a writ of certiorari on Dec. 11, docketed by the court on Dec. 15, which argues that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court was wrong when it dismissed their case because the justices thought the plaintiffs filed their case with unreasonable delay.

“This Court should not turn a blind eye to unconstitutional election laws that permit massive vote dilution and have a significant impact on election outcomes, as the Pennsylvania Supreme Court did,” the petition (pdf) states. The case at hand—cited as Kelly v. Pennsylvania—argues that Act 77, a law that made voting by mail without an excuse legal in Pennsylvania, was enacted in violation of Pennsylvania’s constitution. The state constitution, the plaintiffs argue, prohibits absentee voting in Pennsylvania except for four limited circumstances. The lawsuit alleges that the state law is “another illegal attempt to override the limitations on absentee voting prescribed in the Pennsylvania Constitution, without first following the necessary procedure to amend the constitution to allow for the expansion.”

The lawsuit was filed by a Republican lawmaker Rep. Mike Kelly (R-Pa.) and several GOP congressional candidates. In late November a Pennsylvania commonwealth judge, Patricia McCullough, issued a temporary injunction that would have prevented the state from taking further steps to complete the certification of the presidential race. She argued that “petitioners appear to have established a likelihood to succeed on the merits because petitioners have asserted the Constitution does not provide a mechanism for the legislature to allow for expansion of absentee voting without a constitutional amendment.” She also opined that the “petitioners appear to have a viable claim that the mail-in ballot procedures set forth in Act 77 contravene” the plain language of the provision of the Pennsylvania Constitution, which deals with absentee voting.

However, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that the plaintiffs waited too long before the county of boards of election were required to certify the election results to bring the case, which could “result in the disenfranchisement of millions of Pennsylvania voters” who voted by mail.

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“Only after these activities are concluded should this information be deleted for data privacy reasons.”

Michigan Legislature Committees Subpoena Election Evidence (JTN)

Concerned about possible election evidence being destroyed, members of a joint session of the Michigan Legislature’s House and Senate oversight committees on Tuesday voted to issue subpoenas to Detroit and the nearby suburb of Livonia demanding they surrender hard drives, emails, absentee voter counting board laptops and other election-related materials. One Senate Democrat reportedly joined his Republican colleagues in supporting the subpoenas. A Nov. 28 order memo from the State Bureau of Elections had followed the same protocol as prior elections and ordered the deletion by November 30 of “E-Pollbook laptops and flash drives … unless a petition for recount has been filed and the recount has not been completed, a post-election audit is planned but has not yet been completed, or the deletion of the data has been stayed by an order of the court or the Secretary of State.”

Tracy Wimmer, director of Media Relations for Michigian Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a Democrat, told Just the News in a statement Thursday that she rejected Republicans’ concerns about the deletion memo. “The Bureau of Elections memo sent to clerks is the same memo that has been sent to clerks for years, including under the administration of now state senator Ruth Johnson,” Wimmer said. “Republican House and Senate legal counsel were provided this information days ago. The fact that members of their party is choosing to ignore these truths in a press release demonstrates they have no interest in preserving the integrity of our elections or democracy.”

Michigan State Senator Ruth Johnson, the Republican who supported the subpoena effort, told Just the News she had previously signed the same deletion order while she was secretary of state but the unusual nature of the 2020 election meant circumstances had changed. “Election integrity should not be a partisan issue, this information needs to be preserved while there are ongoing lawsuits, audits, and Oversight committee review of the November election,” Johnson said. “Only after these activities are concluded should this information be deleted for data privacy reasons.”

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Declassify all of it.

DNI Declassifies Brennan Notes, 2016 CIA Referral On Clinton Campaign (Fed)

Top U.S. intelligence officials were so concerned heading into the 2016 election that the Russians were aware of and potentially manipulating Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s plans to smear Donald Trump as a Russian agent that they personally briefed President Barack Obama on the matter, newly declassified Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) documents show. CIA officials also requested that the FBI investigate Russian knowledge of the Clinton campaign’s collusion smear operation. Newly declassified handwritten notes from former CIA Director John Brennan show that the U.S. intelligence community knew in 2016 that Russian intelligence was actively monitoring, and potentially injecting disinformation into, Clinton’s anti-Trump collusion narrative.

The intelligence concerning Russia’s knowledge of Clinton’s campaign plans was so concerning to Brennan and other national security officials that they personally informed Obama of the matter in the Oval Office in the summer of 2016. The handwritten notes from Brennan were declassified by Director of National Intelligence (DNI) John Ratcliffe and provided to Congress on Tuesday afternoon. According to the declassified notes, Brennan and the U.S. intelligence community knew months prior to the 2016 election that the collusion smear was the result of a campaign operation hatched by the campaign of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.

“We’re getting additional insight into Russian activites from [REDACTED],” Brennan’s handwritten notes state. “Cite alleged approval by Hillary Clinton–on 26 July–of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisers to villify [sic] Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by the Russian security services.” The notes appear to have been prepared by Brennan to memorialize a meeting held at the White House with the president and his top national security advisers. Included in Brennan’s notes are the responses of other participants in the briefing — including those of former White House National Security Adviser Susan Rice, former White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough, and former DNI James Clapper, but those responses are redacted.

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Why they should be treated as, and broken up like, AT&T.

Facebook, Twitter Execs Donated Big To Biden While Blocking Hunter News (NYP)

Facebook and Twitter executives poured hundreds of thousands of dollars into Joe Biden’s presidential campaign, all while blocking the New York Post’s exposé about Hunter Biden’s overseas business dealings. The revelation comes amid accusations from President Trump and other Republicans that Silicon Valley is censoring conservative voices, sparking a push for the companies to lose their liability protections. A review of Federal Election Commission records show Facebook’s vice president of public policy and chief privacy officer, Erin Egan, donated $99,440.01 to Democrats and Biden in the final weeks of the race.

Egan donated the maximum contribution of $2,800 to the former veep’s White House bid on Sept. 8 and Oct. 1 before ponying up a whopping $55,000 for the Biden Victory Fund and $35,500 for the Democratic National Committee. According to Biden’s website, the Biden Victory Fund is a joint fundraising effort among his campaign, the DNC, and the 47 state parties to help defeat Trump. As first reported by Fox News, she made no contributions to the president’s campaign. Likewise, Facebook’s chief financial officer, David Wehner, donated $2,800 apiece to Biden’s campaign and Democrat Amy McGrath’s failed bid to unseat Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell in Kentucky.

David Fischer, Facebook’s chief revenue officer, donated $2,800 to Biden’s bid during the Democratic primary, according to FEC records, and another $750 during the general election. But Fischer also donated tens of thousands of dollars to Democratic challengers in other key races, including Jamie Harrison’s unsuccessful campaign against Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Mark Kelly and John Hickenlooper’s successful Senate races in Arizona and Colorado. A number of Facebook vice presidents and Instagram’s chief financial officer also donated the maximum $2,800 to Biden’s White House bid.

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Just ban the damn things. If elections can be manipulated, they will.

McConnell Takes Checks from Voting Machine Lobbyists (RS)

In 2016, Russian hackers targeted voting systems in 21 states and, according to Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report, breached systems in Illinois and two counties in Florida, gaining access to information on millions of registered voters. In his report, Mueller described the Russian government’s interference in the 2016 elections as “sweeping and systematic.” Three years later, security experts warn that not enough has been done to address vulnerabilities in the U.S. election system. The director of the Federal Bureau of Investigations recently told Congress that “the threats just keep escalating,” adding that he viewed the 2018 midterms as a “dress rehearsal for the big show in 2020.”

In fourteen states, some 2018 midterm voters submitted their votes on touchscreens that did not produce paper trails necessary to verify their votes or audit election outcomes. If votes had been inaccurately processed in these precincts—whether through equipment errors or foreign hacking operations—election officials wouldn’t have been able to find or correct the problems. Several Democratic and Republican members of Congress have submitted legislation to shore up election security. Proposals from Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) and Rep. John Sarbanes (D-Md.) include replacing paperless electronic voting machines with hand-marked paper ballots and optical scanners, subjecting voting equipment vendors to rigorous cybersecurity standards, and requiring vendors to report cybersecurity incidents.

But all the bills have hit a roadblock. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has reportedly told his colleagues that he will not allow the Senate to vote on election security legislation this session.

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A whole article on SolarWinds without mentioing Dominion even once. Well done!

Hackers Used SolarWinds’ Dominance Against It In Sprawling Spy Campaign

On an earnings call two months ago, SolarWinds Chief Executive Kevin Thompson touted how far the company had gone during his 11 years at the helm. There was not a database or an IT deployment model out there to which his Austin, Texas-based company did not provide some level of monitoring or management, he told analysts on the Oct. 27 call. “We don’t think anyone else in the market is really even close in terms of the breadth of coverage we have,” he said. “We manage everyone’s network gear.” Now that dominance has become a liability – an example of how the workhorse software that helps glue organizations together can turn toxic when it is subverted by sophisticated hackers.

On Monday, SolarWinds confirmed that Orion – its flagship network management software – had served as the unwitting conduit for a sprawling international cyberespionage operation. The hackers inserted malicious code into Orion software updates pushed out to nearly 18,000 customers. And while the number of affected organizations is thought to be much more modest, the hackers have already parlayed their access into consequential breaches at the U.S. Treasury and Department of Commerce. Three people familiar with the investigation have told Reuters that Russia is a top suspect, although others familiar with the inquiry have said it is still too early to tell. [..] In a statement issued Sunday, the company said “we strive to implement and maintain appropriate administrative, physical, and technical safeguards, security processes, procedures, and standards designed to protect our customers.”

Cybersecurity experts are still struggling to understand the scope of the damage. The malicious updates – sent between March and June, when America was hunkering down to weather the first wave of coronavirus infections – was “perfect timing for a perfect storm,” said Kim Peretti, who co-chairs Atlanta-based law firm Alston & Bird’s cybersecurity preparedness and response team. Assessing the damage would be difficult, she said. “We may not know the true impact for many months, if not more – if not ever,” she said. The impact on SolarWinds was more immediate. U.S. officials ordered anyone running Orion to immediately disconnect it.

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Oh please, make it stop. What clown will takeover from Pompeo?

Pompeo: Russia Sowing ‘Chaos, Conflict, And Division’ In Mediterranean (JTN)

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has launched a verbal salvo charging that Russia continues to destabilize the Mediterranean, and that it sows “chaos, conflict, and division” in the region. Pompeo directed his comments Tuesday at his Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who recently accused the U.S. of playing political games in the countries surrounding the Mediterranean Sea. “It’s unfortunate and unhelpful that Mr. Lavrov again gets the facts wrong and attempts to rewrite history,” Pompeo said in a statement. “The United States is working actively with allies and partners in the Eastern Mediterranean to promote greater stability, security, and prosperity.”

The comments come during a time of increased tensions between Washington and Moscow, and in the wake of reports that Russian hackers have breached U.S. government computer systems. Although he did not directly mention hacking operations, Pompeo charged Russia with spreading disinformation and undermining national sovereignty specifically in the countries surrounding the Mediterranean. “In Syria, Russia supports the Assad regime whose war against its own people has added to regional instability, led to a protracted humanitarian crisis, and displaced half the population,” Pompeo said. The secretary of state listed a number of Russian actions in Greece, Cyprus, Malta, and elsewhere.

“In Libya, Russia/ supported an assault on the/ Libyan capital, Tripoli, killing civilians and undermining the UN s efforts to bring peace to the country,” Pompeo said. Citing a litany of actions in Libya, Pompeo noted Russia had printed counterfeit Libyan dinars and has used its proxy mercenary army known as Wagner to fuel conflict.

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    Henri Cartier-Bresson Trafalgar Square on the Day of the Coronation of George VI 1937   • Yes, HCQ Is Scientifically Proven Against COVID-19 (Raf
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 16 2020]

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    teri
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    About the Hunter Biden/Bill Barr thing: Barr probably didn’t want to be the James Comey of 2020. Remember, Comey announced an investigation into Hillary Clinton just 10 days before the election and then mysteriously announced a week later that there was nothing to investigate after all. Everyone jumped all over him for costing her the election. (“Everyone” being the politicos and the MSM – the voters loathed the woman with good reason, so she probably wouldn’t have won anyway.)

    The thing is that there is nothing Barr could have said that would have really mattered. The IRS is looking into it. It isn’t even really in Barr’s purview at this point. Hunter Biden, while a total jag-off and junkie, has not been, and is not currently, under any criminal investigation. His taxes are being examined – as are Trump’s, BTW – but he hasn’t been indicted for anything, nor does this tax investigation involve criminal charges. A banking associate of Hunter Biden is under criminal investigation of some sort. However, neither the tax issues nor the bank investigation have anything (so far – and they have been looking into these matters for quite awhile) to do with Joe Biden, the guy who was actually running for office.

    I’m old enough to remember the embarrassment of the Clintons, the Bushes, the Kennedys, and Jimmy Carter; all of them had relatives who were either indicted/convicted criminals, or who had been involved in scandals and financial improprieties while their family member was running for office.

    Barr might have spoken out if there was more to this story, but so far it isn’t much more of anything remotely provable than the same damn tax stuff that Trump himself has been going through for years. And Barr would be in a position to know.

    Still, I’m glad Barr is out the door now. Next we can get rid of Trump, who is not doing anything remotely worthwhile for anyone and then Biden, who won’t do anything for the people either. And Pelosi and McConnell and Pompeo and Dejoy and Devos and…….oh, get rid of them all.

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    John Day
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    John Ward at The Slog has another insightful piece up. What lovely use of English!
    They won’t take “No” for an answer

    It does seem eternally odd, does it not, that the US judicial system seems happy to throw out Republican affidavits giving evidence of electoral fraud, but at the same time the US has a media set that suffixes every report on what President Trump says about it with “although he has no evidence to support his claims”….and the world anglosphere falls lamely into line.

    It is truly Pythonic, with just a dash of Catch22: “We’re not going to review these affidavits because they’re worthless,” said the Ostriches, “so will you stop saying you were cheated, because you haven’t got any evidence – we know this, because we don’t need to look at it”.

    My view is simple: it is entirely possible that Trump is lying his fat head off. But the common sense rejoinder to that pov is:

    Why press ahead so vigorously with a case if (privately) you know it to be BS? And
    If you the State know it to be BS, why not investigate every affidavit thoroughly and enumerate their lack of worth instance by instance?
    In short, we have a plaintiff behaving like a guy who’s done his homework, and the State dismissing everything out of hand for fear of finding magic bullets flying backwards, and Presidential Heads exploding in the wrong direction.

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    John Day
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    Man, that Sweden curve screams “VITAMIN D PROTECTS!”
    How can this remain such a secret?

    #66924

    John Day
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    I’m almost out of zinc at my desk at work, to bag up and label for people with COVID, who I am treating with ivermectin, doxycycline, zinc and vitamin-D. I got the first report yesterday from a patient, that the pharmacy did not have all the ivermectin to dispense that day, but enough for the first dose, anyway.
    I asket the pharmacist at Walgreens today if there had been many prescriptions for ivermectin, zinc and doxyycline for COVID. “No”. I bought out their zinc. I have 25 treatments worth, 26 counting what I still have at work.
    The hydroxychloroquine piece is good, and I still have my chloroquine from February. Jenny and i haven’t needed it yet. I should go ahead and get some ivermectin, as well as prescribing it for patients and family members.

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    Doc Robinson
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    Pennsylvania Republicans Ask SCOTUS To Again Review Election Lawsuit

    In addition to the Pennsylvania lawsuit, two of Sidney Powell’s lawsuits (Michigan and Georgia) were put on the SCOTUS docket yesterday.


    Powell is seeking to challenge those rulings directly at the Supreme Court, bypassing the federal appeals court level.

    The cases are King v. Whitmer, 20-815, and In Re Pearson, 20-816.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/ex-trump-lawyer-powell-asks-high-court-to-nullify-two-biden-wins

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-815.html
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/20-816.html

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    John Day
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    @madamski: I replied to last night’s reply, you “Pretender”.

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    madamski
    Participant

    This is, as the kids say, from some guy on the web (a site called Gray Mirror, itals mine):

    “America’s water-polo elections

    “Let’s face facts. There is nothing historically un-American about election skulduggery. Not only is it traditional, it may even be proper. If your party gets outskulduggled, that tells us something—just as if you lost a real head-bashing contest. It tells you that the other side was strong and your side was weak.

    “Woe to the defeated, Brennus said! And chucked his sword upon the scales—which the whipped Romans had to balance in gold. They remembered that whipping for a long time. Maybe they even turned a profit on it in the end.

    “While skulduggery is wrong, in a sense it is right; because an election is a proxy for civil war. Perhaps the best analogy is water polo. Above the water, water polo is a sport with a referee. Under the water, anything goes—these guys are twisting each others’ balls all afternoon. (And their lawyers are twisting each others’ balls about the rules.) Also, if you do not play the underwater game, you are playing wrong and will just lose.

    “Since balloted elections are actually designed to destroy information—that secret-ballot thing—the bottom layer of every election, the trust layer below anything the security layer can touch—is pure agar for any and all ball-twisting fuckery. The security of an election is a consequence of the thickness of this layer and should be treated as such. Also, if you do not play the underwater game, you are playing wrong and will just lose.

    “If any election system were fuckery-proof, would it need election observers? Also: is there any system in America that counts or tracks citizens precisely and reliably? Also: is there any system in America that you would trust to mechanically distinguish everyone’s signature from some random scrawl? Also: what stops anyone running a voting station from slipping ballots in at the end of the day, while crossing off the names of people who didn’t vote? There is plenty of evidence that there is no election fraud—and plenty of evidence that no one is looking for it, or even could find it.

    We know exactly what a genuinely secure physical and electronic counting system looks like. It looks like Vegas. We know exactly what a genuinely secure 21st-century voting system looks like. It looks like Sweden, Mexico or even Iraq.

    “Ours looks nothing like any of these things. It looks, in fact, like a typical American shitshow. (Or, as the New York Times put it in 2016, horror show.) And anyone who lacks quick and savage comebacks for the above questions is ill-positioned to educate us out of this Bayesian prior.”

    #66928

    John Day
    Participant

    I got asked last month if I treat for COVID, and how, by the AAPS. I said “yes, but I’m in a clinic that’s booked up for a month”. So, they did not put me on the published list.
    Here is the link to the global and US-by-State list:
    https://www.exstnc.com/
    In Texas, there’s more HCQ in use than ivermectin so far, though some might have changed without updating.

    #66929

    madamski
    Participant

    @ John Day

    I am, indeed, a pretender, but over the decades, have become what I pretend to be. People have always had trouble with me being real but when I pretend to be real, they eat it up.

    ‘When illusion and reality are one, the people are content and the kingdom prospers. When illusion and reality are separate, the people are confused and the kingdom suffers.’ wise Asian stereotype, circa 7th century BCE

    #66930

    zerosum
    Participant

    non-sequiturs

    Listen to Biden announce his cabinet

    #66933

    John Day
    Participant

    Blog’s up, but you’ve seen most of it. https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/12/keeping-up.html

    Look into this site:
    How to Start Preparing for Hard Times​ ​on a Very Modest Budget
    https://grandpappy.org/hssstart.htm

    #66934

    zerosum
    Participant

    Thanks
    I got Grandpappy bookmarked

    #66935

    Noirette
    Participant

    Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) for an Unapproved Product Review Memorandum

    (for Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine/ BNT162b2)

    PDF. https://www.fda.gov/media/144416/download

    p. 41

    As specified in the protocol, suspected cases of symptomatic COVID-19 that were not PCR- confirmed were not recorded as adverse events unless they met regulatory criteria for seriousness. Two serious cases of suspected but unconfirmed COVID-19 were reported, both in the vaccine group, and narratives were reviewed. In one case, a 36-year-old male with no medical comorbidities experienced fever, malaise, nausea, headache…

    (…)

    Among 3,410 total cases of suspected but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study population, 1,594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group. Suspected COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine group vs. 287 in the placebo group. It is possible that the imbalance in suspected COVID-19 cases occurring in the 7 days postvaccination represents vaccine reactogenicity with symptoms that overlap with those of COVID-19. Overall though, these data do not raise a concern that protocol-specified reporting of suspected, but unconfirmed COVID-19 cases could have masked clinically significant adverse events that would not have otherwise been detected.

    All very odd, not very ‘scientific’ and dressed up in obfuscations.

    I interpret the first sentence quoted (very unclear, a case of COV-19 can’t in itself be an ‘adverse effect’ due to some medication / vaccine / other, or at least not so in the frame of such a review!) and the general gist, to mean that in all the Ss studied, some experienced the kinds of symptoms and ‘feeling ill’ that resemble those of COV-19, but they were not tested for it, so who knows. The ppl ‘feeling ill’ 7 days after the vaccination vs. placebo were 409 (vac) vs 287 (placebo.) The conclusion is that all those vaccinated ‘feeling ill’ may be exhibiting symptoms that represent a reaction to the vaccine that “overlap” (that is the word used) with those of COV-19.

    No accusations of fraud / lying here, simply all this has become so murky sense-making is difficult. Reports are hard to find, spun and twisted by the media, cherry-picked, sometimes downright turned upside-down in the reporting. The originals are (imho) written to allow this, and support wildly different statements and critiques. The reports are not sincere, or honest, or ‘best efforts’ – they are marketing, propaganda efforts, dressed up in ‘scientism’ (aka deceptive concepts, wordings) language. Based on – who knows what. Big Pharma Triumph in the US, EU….

    #66936

    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Reports are hard to find, spun and twisted by the media, cherry-picked, sometimes downright turned upside-down in the reporting”

    And have been since the beginning of this farce. Believe the science! Everything is compromised in the Age of Fraud.

    #66938

    #66939

    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The UK government disclosed the ingredients of the Pfizer vaccine:

    What [Pfizer] COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine BNT162b2 contains
    • The active substance is BNT162b2 RNA.
    After dilution, the vial contains 5 doses, of 0.3 mL with 30 micrograms mRNA each.
    • This vaccine contains polyethylene glycol/macrogol (PEG) as part of ALC-0159
    • The other ingredients are:
    – ALC-0315 = (4-hydroxybutyl)azanediyl)bis(hexane-6,1-diyl)bis(2-hexyldecanoate),
    – ALC-0159 = 2[(polyethylene glycol)-2000]-N,N-ditetradecylacetamide,
    – 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine, 5
    – cholesterol,
    – potassium chloride,
    – potassium dihydrogen phosphate,
    – sodium chloride,
    – disodium hydrogen phosphate dihydrate,
    – sucrose

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/943249/Information_for_UK_recipients.pdf

    Official consent form:
    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/942009/PHE_11843_Covid-19_Consent_form_adults_able_to_consent.pdf

    Consent form suggested by UK Medical Freedom Alliance:
    https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/5fc76c8cbd4d75f7ea592501_UKMFA_CV19_vaccine_consent_form_v1-1.pdf

    #66940

    madamski
    Participant

    TRUST THE SCAM: BARR RESIGNS AFTER COVERING UP EPSTEIN CASE, HIDING HUNTER BIDEN INVESTIGATION

    Bit of a smorgasbord, hits and misses, but overall, a lot of the shit on the TP roll is real. A damning smear.

    #66941

    Mr. House
    Participant
    #66942

    madamski
    Participant

    The main assertion of Raul’s text .jpeg was true just 8 days ago, while we have been told for much longer than that to expect a mainstream pharma vaccine and submit to the discipline. I think the most important assertion to vet in that text is the final one and the second one.

    #66945

    madamski
    Participant

    One ore attempt. Let’s hope the third time is the charm:

    from the Year Zero article from Consent Factory linked above:

    “but there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever of any authentic public health threat that remotely justifies the totalitarian emergency measures we are being subjected to or the damage that is being done to society. ”

    What is it with the ridiculous absolutes stated bassawkwards? If not for the word “the” between “justifies” and “totalitarian”, and the words “are being”, the sentence is nonsense. Covid is a very real virus with very real consequences occurring through high contagiousness, i.e., an authentic serious health threat. Any effective response to such a thing is by nature totalitarian because things to which the vast majority are susceptible to encounter and be infected with are universal in scope.

    Yes, they fucked up their response big-time. Yes, they are obviously using it to exploit us for their desires. That’s what they do. Yes, we are being lied to. Yes, they are screwing us over. Yes yes yes…

    But that’s no reason to go hyperbolistic lobbing bullshit missiles.

    Recap: there IS an authentic health crisis. It’s proper defanging would have required measures totalitarian in nature (like we saw China do when this thing started). What has been done instead is awful at best and is moving rapidly toward worst.

    The more profound martial arts understand that your force against the foe works best when it doesn’t directly counter the foe’s force but, instead, deceptively accepts then diverts. This is better not necessarily because a direct punch in the nose is ineffective. It is better because it prevents you from becoming a mirror image of your foe, which is both morally and strategically asinine. Morally because an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind including thyself, and strategically because the foe knows itself better than it does you, and becoming like your foe makes you an open book to it and a mystery to yourself.

    And so you see smart people like Manufacturing Consent’s writer waxing deeply sophomoric. It’s enough to make a girl think they’re writing for the CIA.

    #66946

    Mr. House
    Participant

    “And so you see smart people like Manufacturing Consent’s writer waxing deeply sophomoric. It’s enough to make a girl think they’re writing for the CIA.”

    And why is that?

    #66947

    Mr. House
    Participant

    Do you think this is the end? People will get their vaccines and everything will go back to normal? Perhaps those that don’t get the vaccine will be forced out of cities and unable to find employment with any major corporations? They won’t be able to get a job with any small biz because seems like most of them will be gone. I took my shades off when the future wasn’t so bright.

    #66948

    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/flow-us-imports-continues-surge-now-twice-rate-exports

    What the hell are people buying? I think most of thee people thinks will be going back to normal once they get their vaccine. People should be saving every cent right now until things become more clear.

    #66949

    Bill7
    Participant

    > Recap: there IS an authentic health crisis.

    Mmm- wouldn’t that be self-evident- certainly by now!- , and unneeding of fear-porn catapulted 24/7 from most every media source for the last nine months?

    As for who’s writing for the Dark Side, I rather doubt it’s Mr. Hopkins.

    #66950

    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    I previously mentioned the presence of Polyethylene Glycol (PEG) in the Pfizer vaccine. And unless Moderna states otherwise, there’s a good chance it’s a component of their vaccine, too. It’s used with the lipid nanoparticles coating the mRNA.

    “BioNTech/Pfizer and Moderna encapsulate their mRNA vaccines within LNPs [lipid nanoparticles].”
    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c07197#

    An unknown percentage of the population will have reactions to PEG being injected into their bodies.

    “Polyethylene glycol (PEG)-coated nanopharmaceuticals can cause mild to severe hypersensitivity reactions (HSRs), which can occasionally be life threatening or even lethal. The phenomenon represents an unsolved immune barrier to the use of these drugs, yet its mechanism is poorly understood…”
    https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.9b03942

    It might be happening already in the US with the Pfizer vaccine, to people without any known allergies:


    A health worker in Alaska experienced a serious allergic reaction just 10 minutes after receiving Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine on Tuesday, marking the first adverse effect from the vaccine reported in the U.S.

    The health worker experienced an anaphylactic reaction and was taken to the emergency room, then later transferred to the intensive care unit, Alaska state health officials said.

    The patient did not have a previous history of drug related allergies, the officials confirmed during a call with reporters. She experienced shortness of breath, elevated heart rate and a rash on her face and torso. She was treated with epinephrine and antihistamines, but her symptoms recurred multiple times and she was taken to the ICU. Officials said by Wednesday she had recovered but remains in the ICU for monitoring.

    “This is the only case in the U.S., but this doesn’t mean there won’t be more cases,” said Dr. Jay Butler, deputy director for Infectious Diseases at the CDC.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/16/alaska-pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine-reaction-446861

    #66951

    chettt
    Participant

    Yes there IS an authentic health crisis. There always is.
    It’s been called heart disease,
    obesity,
    diabeties,
    cancer,
    addiction,
    And oh yea, there’s a new one now called COVID. And we must do everything we can to “defang” this newest member of the “Let’s Kill All the Humans” club. Now we must stay focused and not let anything stop us. And, if in our zeal to conquer this deadly beast, we happen to kill more people through overdose, suicide, domestic violence and delayed medical care, well sorry but shit happens and we don’t have time to worry about that now. We just need to kill the beast. And if an extra 10 – 15 million people in the rest of the world die of starvation because of all the economic chaos and disruption of life needed to defeat this scourge, well, so be it. We don’t have time to think about them either.

    Because there IS an authentic health crisis.

    #66952

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    madamski
    What is it with the ridiculous absolutes stated bassawkwards? If not for the word “the” between “justifies” and “totalitarian”, and the words “are being”, the sentence is nonsense. Covid is a very real virus with very real consequences occurring through high contagiousness, i.e., an authentic serious health threat. Any effective response to such a thing is by nature totalitarian because things to which the vast majority are susceptible to encounter and be infected with are universal in scope.

    Hear hear! Excellent catch and analysis…
    We are just so screwed just trying to get facts re: Corona.
    Thank the gods (and Ilargi) for TAE and a very savvy commentariat…
    We’re living in the time for conspiracy theorist’s dreams come true…
    The sky is falling…(Chicken Little)

    #66953

    WES
    Participant

    In the photo ironically the only person with even a hint of a smile is the drunk lying in the gutter!

    #66954

    Geppetto
    Participant

    @madamski wrote:

    “Recap: there IS an authentic health crisis. It’s proper defanging would have required measures totalitarian in nature (like we saw China do when this thing started). What has been done instead is awful at best and is moving rapidly toward worst.

    The more profound martial arts understand that your force against the foe works best when it doesn’t directly counter the foe’s force but, instead, deceptively accepts then diverts. This is better not necessarily because a direct punch in the nose is ineffective. It is better because it prevents you from becoming a mirror image of your foe, which is both morally and strategically asinine. Morally because an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind including thyself, and strategically because the foe knows itself better than it does you, and becoming like your foe makes you an open book to it and a mystery to yourself.”

    Not sure if these two paragraphs belong in the same essay?

    I would think that the ‘proper defanging’ of SARS-CoV-2 is not ‘deceptively accepting’. In fact the more I read the second paragraph( which is a philosophy I tend to ascribe to) the more it reminds of Walt Perry’s parody quote from Pogo; “We have met the enemy and he is us”.

    I would posit that the *idea* that we humans are some how capable of controlling and modifying nature to our own ends is hubris. I believe that security and control are illusory…….. especially at scale. SARS-CoV-2 is nature…at scale. I also believe that human nature is robust, thousands and thousands of years of robustness. Having said that I might take the vaccine if given sufficient proof of a proper trial and efficacy. I have been vaccinated against smallpox, measles and polio. I have never gotten a seasonal flu vaccine and have only endured mild flu a couple times in my 70 years. These days I’m thinking I probably have a greater *probability* of dying from skin cancer or a bad crash going fast with the kids on the mountain bike.

    Then again…… from Ani Difranco’s 32 flavors:

    ‘Cause someday you might find you’re starving
    And eating all of the words you said’

    #66955

    madamski
    Participant

    @ Geppetto

    “I would posit that the *idea* that we humans are some how capable of controlling and modifying nature to our own ends is hubris. I believe that security and control are illusory……..”

    I quite agree. That doesn’t mean we aren’t able to contain pandemics. We know how. We have, in fact, done so in the past. We had our chance with this one. We screwed it up.

    ^&*

    @ Bill7 (one the countless but not innumerable Numbered People)

    As for authentic health crises: I certainly didn’t say that covid is the only current health crisis, nor would I say that we deal all that well with things like heart disease, cancer, the growing obesity of our culture, etc. What a pretty trail of shining slimy red herrings people toss into my wake!

    ^&*

    @ Mr. House:

    Why the CIA remark? Because I know many bright people who ignore, to the detriment of their well-informedness, the writings of writers like Manufactured Consent (MC) because of MC et al’s tendency to use expressions that are better suited to, say, recent presidential “debates” or the average Youtube flame war. This is a shame, because the likes of MC know much and have much wisdom to share.

    In using such language, writers like MC, despite their considerable knowledge and insight, add to the “mere conspiracy theorist” taint they otherwise work so hard to dispel. It’s like sites with titles like Consciousness of Sheep. Such titles drive many people* away from reading what would be illumating knowledge if they weren’t immediatyely put off by the shrill arrogance they perceive (rightly or not) in such titles and in the kind of antagonistically absolute verbiage I addressed. I presume entities like the CIA/NSA would a[pprove of this.
    *yes, I know some personally

    ^&*

    I will go silent for awhile. I speak my mind and, as usual, people rush to replace what I said with words of their own and then argue with me over those words of theirs. But, a hint: just because a paragraph follows another does not mean that it directly addresses the former. The opening thrust of my post under discussion was about people choosing to focus their rhetorical energy against a perceived enemy by making glaring absolute statements that sound much like the bullshit coming from their perceived enemy. That is what the martial arts paragraph addressed. Mea culpa for not more clearly segueing that intent, but some blame is also on those who rushed in to assume they understood something clearly although it was (again, my bad) ambiguously constructed. Instead, they jumped on the opportunity to project their biases and tell me how right they are/how wrong I am without clarifying that what they disagree with is what I meant.

    But then, this IS the internet. Lacking physical consequences to our words online (things like broken beer mugs in someone’s face), the standard angry hominid response to things we disagree with runs rampant and, typically, in rhetorical circles.

    Now don’t everybody fawn over me at once. I’m too old to endure such adulation. I think I’ll let you all misconstrue each others’ words without me for awhile.

    #66956

    Huskynut
    Participant

    @madamski
    “I quite agree. That doesn’t mean we aren’t able to contain pandemics. We know how. We have, in fact, done so in the past. We had our chance with this one. We screwed it up.”

    On this we disagree. World trade and travel are now in volumes very incomparable to the past.
    Yes, we can use the old methods. But only if we return to similar conditions, as NZ has eg by closing the borders. That in itself requires the consent of the governed. The impacts of reverting to older times have completely predictable consequences in the new world where supply chains stretch across the globe.
    That’s one of the key and obvious points that myself and others have been arguing from Day 1 – every one of these interventions, even if they’d been historically efficacious, were going to have profound and entirely predictable consequences on the current economic reality. As they have.
    That politicians are f*ckwits is a given, but they never ever had the latitude of response available that you’re imagining they had.

    #66957

    Geppetto
    Participant

    @madamski
    All that just makes me love you more than I already do so I’ll just go ahead and eat those words . I pretty much agree with you 99% of the time. The one percent in this particular case is that I think it might be a little early in the unfolding to say that what we (and to add, I don’t think I personally have had much input into any of this other than wearing my mask and practicing social d so the ‘we’ thing doesn’t sit well) have actually NOT done what needs to be done. I try to make it clear that ‘the’ conditional is MY condition and not yours. I just found the juxtaposition of those two ‘methods’…interesting….. and used it to make my typical segue to the meta side. No more no less. I got the intent in both.

    The importance of scale can not be understated. In 1970 when @vietnamvet was in southeast asia the world population was 3.68 billion…… in the US 205 million. Check the world pop for the Spanish flu years. My dad bought his first house in 1950 for $4500. His house payment was $45 a month! His total income was $400 per month. Six mouths to feed and all. What does that equate to now?

    It is not the same world and to think that 300,000 humans or that $1,000,000 are large numbers might be naive..? I am not talking about the value that might be reflected in those numbers just the relative size. So also.. the scaling of the time to effect of any action…such a the *right* decisions on public health policy. The future will manifest as and in the present so I personally will try and hold the mind of absolute trust. Wait and see.

    Come on gal! Don’t go now! I enjoy your take on all this stuff! …even if we are just dancing on the surface of all that is.

    #66959

    Huskynut
    Participant

    I was reflecting a little more on comments de jour, and the crux of it seems so well encapsulated by pop culture. Hollywood had been schooling everyone via the super-hero myth that we can simultaneously have both the child-like naivete to self-identify with whatever gender preference of 50-odd piques our interest on any particular day + the ability to be protected from all threats – physical, emotional or biological – by the constant oversight of “super-beings”, who remain vigilant, uncorruptable and powerful.
    Politics isn’t a trade-off where we weigh the value of our personal liberties against the risks of autocracy but the benefits of group protection. Nosiree.. we deserve it all and want it all. A material that is both pliable and plastic, but almost infinitely rigid. Achievable! Believeable! Science can do it.. instead of costs, benefits, optimisations and tradeoffs.. the true and real limits of our options.
    When the world offshored a large part of it’s production to China, a (perhaps unspoken) consequence was the need to keep borders open. When nations such as NZ built a large part of their GDP on the back of tourism, the same applied.
    Hence the push towards the Great Reset.. partly because it allows powerful capital to consolidate it’s gains, but also because within the thinking of many of those (eg Bill Gates), the world is mechanistic, and can be controlled by the right combination of power and foresight.
    Whereas for those of us on the other side of the fence, true resilience lies in diversity and autonomy. On precisely the *lack* of control which means that one stupid decision affects an entire population.
    Trying to keep *everyone* alive perpetuates the stupidity. Who knows exactly what works, amidst all the variables? This is exactly where the model of the capitalist system excels. Provide options, allow people to choose. Let the market decide. It is vastly more capable of optimising than Fauci or Tengell. Humankind either doubles down on interconnectedness or retreats into isolation. Me, I don’t care. But sitting on the fence pretending we can have the best of all worlds is killing our society. Choose. Choose cautious conservativitism (valuing preservation of the past) or optimistic progressivism (favouring change). You can;t simltaneously have both. And/if where your polity can;t choose, then separate into groups that can make a choice out of shared values.
    That’s where we are. Seems too few want to acknowledge that future or make that choice.

    #66971

    V. Arnold
    Participant

    @ Huskynut

    I thought you’re post was very well stated…but; not quite up to the blizzard of bullshit that will fly at it in attack formation; to whit, individualism, isolation, independence, will be attacked repeatably because it goes against groupthink.
    Individual action counts, if only for the person…
    Groupthink thrives on the collective; ultimately sucks it dry…
    You want a solution? Dive deep (and take plenty of oxygen); and identify the bait; and don’t go for it…
    Only come up for a breath or two; but not too long…

    #66980

    Geppetto
    Participant

    @huskynut

    Outstanding comment and insight!

    thank you!

    #66981

    John Day
    Participant

    @huskynut :
    We excel in smallish groups under #150.
    That’s our strength.
    Optimum might be 8-12 to get stuff done.

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