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Travelers May Need A COVID Vaccine Passport To Travel In 2021 (JTN)
ER Nurse Tests Positive For COVID19 Eight Days After He Was Vaccinated (DM)
Covid Poses ‘Greatest Threat To Mental Health Since Second World War’ (G.)
Majority Of New COVID Cases In UK Are New Variant (Sky)
McConnell Blocks Vote On $2,000 Checks, Signals New Package (Hill)
Bernie Sanders Fights for a $2,000 Check for You on the Senate Floor (Jac.)
10 Stats About The $2,000 Checks (DP)
Ukraine Press Conference Explicitly Ties Hunter & Joe Biden To Corruption (ZH)
Why Senators Must Reject Avril Haines for Intelligence (MPN)
UK House Prices Rise By Most In Six Years (R.)
Five Times this Year the New York Times Accidentally Told the Truth (AIER)

 

 

 

 

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I’m afraid I lost the plot line along the way. If the chief WHO scientist says there’s no evidence the vaccine protects you from being infected, or even from infecting others, what is the purpose of a vaccine passport?

Travelers May Need A COVID Vaccine Passport To Travel In 2021 (JTN)

Travelers may need to show proof that they have taken the COVID-19 vaccine in order to travel in 2021. “Several companies and technology groups have begun developing smartphone apps or systems for individuals to upload details of their COVID-19 tests and vaccinations, creating digital credentials that could be shown in order to enter concert venues, stadiums, movie theaters, offices, or even countries,” CBS-Miami reported. “The Common Trust Network, an initiative by Geneva-based nonprofit The Commons Project and the World Economic Forum, has partnered with several airlines including Cathay Pacific, JetBlue, Lufthansa, Swiss Airlines, United Airlines and Virgin Atlantic, as well as hundreds of health systems across the United States and the government of Aruba,” the station reported.

Thomas Crampton, chief marketing and communications officer for The Commons Project, told CNN Business that a simple and easily transferable set of credentials, or a “digital yellow card,” could be the answer. Last week, a former director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said “immunity passports” for Americans to prove they have taken the COVID-19 vaccine might help the country get “back to a new normal.” Dr. Thomas Frieden told CBS that “done right, immunity passports could be one of a series of things that could help us get to a new normal as soon as possible.” “We don’t know if this is going to happen, but fundamentally we’re seeing companies and countries giving people a certificate of vaccination,” he said. “The risk of this is it will make inequality even worse. If people have both susceptibility to the virus and less access to the vaccine, they’ll have even more problems.”

Frieden, who served as director of the CDC from 2009 to 2017, said for the passports to work, there would need to be “absolute privacy,” adding that the vaccine should be “absolutely opt in.” “Fundamentally, we’re facing a very difficult few weeks and few months. There’s not enough vaccine yet and we’re seeing the highest levels of cases, hospitalizations and deaths the U.S. has since the start of this pandemic,” he said. In an op-ed published this week in The Washington Post, Frieden and co-author Aaron Schwid, a human rights lawyer, wrote: “As more and more people are vaccinated, it’s time to carefully design a system of ‘immunity passports.'” “These passports would serve as a form of proof of immunity, allowing people who have immunity to engage in some activities others cannot. That could make it possible to ratchet down protective measures, such as stay-at-home orders and business closures, without increasing health risks,” they wrote.

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We’ll have to see a lot more of these stories before someone admits there may be a problem.

ER Nurse Tests Positive For COVID19 Eight Days After He Was Vaccinated (DM)

A California nurse has tested positive for COVID-19 just eight days after receiving the vaccination. ER nurse Matthew W., received the Pfizer vaccine on December 18, according to a post from Instagram. ‘Got my Covid vaccine! The 15 minutes afterward sitting around with a bunch of others while health care workers asked us how we felt made me think of an opium den. I’ll report back if I start to grow a third arm,’ Matthew wrote. But on Christmas Eve, Matthew, who works at two different hospitals in San Diego, began feeling sick after working a shift in the COVID-19 unit. He told ABC 10 News, that he first got the chills before coming down with muscle aches and fatigue. On December 26, he went to a hospital to get tested for the virus and tested positive.


And while it is surprising, it’s not unexpected, according to health experts who weighed in on the case. Dr Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist with Family Health Centers of San Diego, told the station: ‘It’s not unexpected at all. If you work through the numbers, this is exactly what we’d expect to happen if someone was exposed.’ And while it is surprising, it’s not unexpected, according to health experts who weighed in on the case. ‘That first dose we think gives you somewhere around 50%, and you need that second dose to get up to 95%,’ Ramers added. Matthew says he is feeling better since his symptoms appeared last week.

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“..the number of people in contact with mental health services has never been higher, and some hospital trusts report that their mental health wards are at capacity.”

Covid Poses ‘Greatest Threat To Mental Health Since Second World War’ (G.)

The coronavirus crisis poses the greatest threat to mental health since the second world war, with the impact to be felt for years after the virus has been brought under control, the country’s leading psychiatrist has said. Dr Adrian James, the president of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said a combination of the disease, its social consequences and the economic fallout were having a profound effect on mental health that would continue long after the epidemic is reined in. As many as 10 million people, including 1.5 million children, are thought to need new or additional mental health support as a direct result of the crisis. The prediction comes as the virus surges in the UK, and highlights the need for a plan that ensures those who develop mental illness or see existing conditions worsen have swift access to effective support in the years ahead.

“This is going to have a profound effect on mental health,” James said. “It is probably the biggest hit to mental health since the second world war. It doesn’t stop when the virus is under control and there are few people in hospital. You’ve got to fund the long-term consequences.” Demand for mental health services dropped at the start of the pandemic as people stayed away from GP surgeries and hospitals, or thought treatment was unavailable. But the dip was followed by a surge in people seeking help that shows no sign of abating. Data from NHS Digital reveals that the number of people in contact with mental health services has never been higher, and some hospital trusts report that their mental health wards are at capacity. “The whole system is clearly under pressure,” James said.

Modelling by the Centre for Mental Health forecasts that as many as 10 million people will need new or additional mental health support as a direct result of the coronavirus epidemic. About 1.3 million people who have not had mental health problems before are expected to need treatment for moderate to severe anxiety, and 1.8 million treatment for moderate to severe depression, it found. The overall figure includes 1.5 million children at risk of anxiety and depression brought about or aggravated by social isolation, quarantine or the hospitalisation or death of family members. The numbers may rise as the full impact becomes clear on Black, Asian and minority ethnic communities, care homes and people with disabilities.

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The UK is moving into danger territory. If only they had not cut their medical facilities in half.

Majority Of New COVID Cases In UK Are New Variant (Sky)

The new, faster-spreading coronavirus variant makes up the majority of new cases in the UK, Health Secretary Matt Hancock has told Sky News. A recent surge of COVID-19 cases is largely due to the variant which may be up to 70% more infectious than the original one, Mr Hancock said. “The ‘suppress the virus’ bit has got a whole lot harder since the new variant really got going over December,” he said. “Now the majority of the new cases in the UK are the new variant. It is much, much easier to transmit from one person to another.”


The faster transmission had put extreme pressure on the NHS, Mr Hancock added. “It is absolutely critical that people follow the rules and do everything they can to stop the spread, particularly of the new variant of this virus that transmits so much faster.” “So, the challenge of suppressing the virus has got harder, but thankfully, the cavalry has arrived in terms of not one, but two vaccines – and we’ve got to get them into people’s arms at the speed at which they can be manufactured”.

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“..the GOP leader later filed a bill that would increase the amount of the stimulus checks, repeal a legal shield for tech companies known as Section 230 and create an election commission that would study the November elections.”

McConnell Blocks Vote On $2,000 Checks, Signals New Package (Hill)

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blocked an attempt by Democrats to set up a stand-alone vote on increasing the amount of recently passed stimulus checks from $600 to $2,000. Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) both tried to get consent for the Senate to bring up legislation that passed the House in a 273-134 vote on Monday. The GOP leader did not directly address why he objected, but under the Senate’s rules any one senator can block efforts to set up votes or pass bills. McConnell signaled separately that he could package the increase in direct stimulus checks, with a repeal of a tech shield that has emerged as a top target for Trump and election-related investigations.


Trump, in his statement on signing the $2.3 trillion package, said the Senate would “start the process for a vote” that tackles the three issues. “During this process, the president highlighted three additional issues of national significance he would like to see Congress tackle together,” McConnell said. “Those are the three important subjects the president has linked together. This week the Senate will begin a process to bring these three priorities into focus,” he added. McConnell did not provide additional details during his floor speech about how he might bring the measures up. But the GOP leader later filed a bill that would increase the amount of the stimulus checks, repeal a legal shield for tech companies known as Section 230 and create an election commission that would study the November elections.

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“Sanders has the procedural means at his disposal to keep the Senate in session all the way to New Year’s Day..”

Bernie Sanders Fights for a $2,000 Check for You on the Senate Floor (Jac.)

For most of the last few decades, budget standoffs in Washington tended to follow the same script: Republicans threatened to block some domestic spending bill or fully shut down the government unless Democrats agreed to let the GOP own the libs with something bad like a JPMorgan giveaway, a tax break for the rich, or a draconian cut to a social program. When Democrats controlled Congress, they never mustered the courage to respond with their own version of the same shrewd tactics. Even toward the end of the Bush era when the Iraq War was deeply unpopular, they never made a serious attempt to hold up a bloated GOP-written Pentagon bill in order to try to get their way on a progressive initiative. But at the end of one of the worst years in recent history, it seems things are changing.

In a long overdue script-flipping move, Sen. Bernie Sanders is now moving to halt a major defense bill until and unless Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell allows a full vote on legislation to give millions of starving Americans $2,000 in emergency aid. That legislation passed the House yesterday over opposition from a majority of House Republicans, who tried their best to deny their own constituents much-needed aid. Now the bill is in McConnell’s hands, and Sanders is pulling a McConnell on McConnell. He is imperiling the GOP boss’s top priority — the defense bill that authorizes pay increases for soldiers, military training, new weapons systems, while also complicating attempts to draw down troops deployed in Afghanistan. That McConnell-backed legislation could be stalled unless he agrees to Sanders’ demands and stops obstructing a progressive priority.

The Vermont independent appears ready to play hardball: He is doing his best impression of Marc Maron’s cameo in Almost Famous, effectively screaming “lock the gates!” and threatening to force Senate Republicans to remain in Washington, rather than flee while the country withers. The American Prospect reports: “Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), with the backing of the Senate Democratic caucus, is prepared to make life miserable for Senate Republicans if they do not put a clean vote on the floor to increase one-time emergency payments to most Americans approved in the recent COVID relief package from $600 to $2,000. Sanders has the procedural means at his disposal to keep the Senate in session all the way to New Year’s Day, inconveniencing Senators of both parties, particularly the incumbent Republicans from Georgia, who are in their final full week of campaigning for runoff elections on January 5….

The Senate operates on the principle of unanimous consent. It’s not impossible to get things done if one Senator objects, but it’s quite a bit slower. The majority needs to hold votes and waste time to muscle past an objecting Senator. For this reason, Sanders can prevent quick passage of the defense bill override, the only thing McConnell really wants to accomplish in the last week of the Senate session. This ramps up pressure on McConnell to just hold a vote on the $2,000 checks. Senators don’t want to be stuck in Washington on New Year’s Eve or New Year’s Day if they can prevent it.“

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“3. Jeff Bezos’s personal wealth increased more every second of 2020 ($2,800) than Congress is considering giving Americans who are facing eviction, starvation and bankruptcy ($2,000).”

10 Stats About The $2,000 Checks (DP)

1. The total cost of $2,000 checks ($465 billion) is less than half the amount that American billionaires have made during the pandemic ($1 trillion). The total cost of the checks is less than the amount that just 16 American billionaires increased their net worth by during the pandemic ($471 billion).

2. Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk gained more wealth during the pandemic ($158 billion) than Congress just authorized for additional unemployment benefits for millions of Americans ($120 billion).

3. Jeff Bezos’s personal wealth increased more every second of 2020 ($2,800) than Congress is considering giving Americans who are facing eviction, starvation and bankruptcy ($2,000).

4. Congressional lawmakers are being paid $3,300 of government money every week to come up with ways to block $2,000 checks to millions of Americans.

5. It took Congress less than a month to pass legislation giving a $700 billion bailout to bank executives during the financial crisis. It has taken Congress more than 8 months to even seriously consider a far less expensive bill to give $2,000 checks to millions of Americans during this economic crisis.

6. A $2,000 survival check would give the average soldier more money than the proposed 3 percent military pay increase that is included in defense legislation that Sens. Bernie Sanders and Ed Markey are filibustering in order to force a vote on the survival checks.

7. The richest 5 percent of Americans received more in Trump tax cuts in 2020 ($145 billion) than Congress is spending on increased unemployment benefits for millions of Americans during the economic crisis ($120 billion).

8. In 2016, “children, elderly, disabled people, and students made up around 70 percent of the poor,” according to the People’s Policy Project. Unlike unemployment benefits, $2,000 checks would help them.

9. About 60 percent of Georgia households make less than $75,000, meaning Georgia Republican senators allowing $2,000 checks to be blocked would deny aid to roughly 2 million of their state’s households as they run for reelection.

10. As Republicans try to block the $2,000 check legislation, a new national survey found that 78 percent of Americans support it, even as some pundits insist that the proposal is “divisive.”

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Can we bury this story too?

Ukraine Press Conference Explicitly Ties Hunter & Joe Biden To Corruption (ZH)

From the introduction: “At one of the first press conferences about a year ago, we showed bank transactions for hundreds of thousands of dollars to the family of former US Vice President Joe Biden, namely to his son Robert Hunter Biden. The latter was a member of the board of directors of the infamous gas production company Burisma. Burisma belongs to the fugitive Yanukovych-era minister Mykola Zlochevsky. The inclusion of Biden in the Burisma leadership and payment for his services is nothing more than a political cover that protected Zlochevsky from the Ukrainian law, namely from the criminal code.”

Two foreign witnesses whose identities are protected – Witness 1 and Witness 2 – came forward to testify about the facts of the case. Konstantyn Kulyk, the Head of the Group of Prosecutors of the Prosecutor General’s Office of Ukraine, explained what the witnesses offered: “One quote from a statement by a Witness: “All the described financial transactions were fictitious. And a lot of money was paid in Ukraine so that the state authorities turned a blind eye to it.” [snip] In the period from November 2014 to October 2015, the Witnesses noticed strange recurring payments that, at the direction of Oleh Nelin (Zlochevsky’s assistant in the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine), were sent from the account of BURISMA HOLDINGS LTD, which was opened for the personal needs of Mykola Zlochevsky, in the Latvian PrivatBank AS to the account of the American company ROSEMONT SENECA BONAI LLC.”

“The witnesses drew attention to these payments since about 20 times the same uneven amount was recurring – $83,333.33 as payment for consulting services. [snip] In the period from November 2014 to October 2015, the money stolen from Ukrainians, located on account of BURISMA HOLDINGS LTD with the Latvian PrivatBank AS, was transferred to the account of ROSEMONT SENECA BONAI LLC in the American bank MORGAN STANLEY in payments in total amounting to $3.4 million for consulting services. [snip] This is a payment for the political “cover” that Biden provided to Zlochevsky.” The video offers a graphic image showing the flow of money and favors:

Andrii Derkach picked up the narrative. He focused on Joe Biden’s conversations with Former President Poroshenko when Viktor Shokin, a prosecutor, started looking into Zlochevsky’s graft. As we all know, Biden openly boasted about holding up money from the U.S. unless Poroshenko fired Shokin. The press conference included audio from a November 16, 2016 conversation between Biden and Poroshenko. Biden was wheeling and dealing for influence and money – and conducting foreign policy behind Trump’s back. The men spoke again in February 2017, at which time Biden smothered Poroshenko with fulsome compliments. Ukraine’s government is gunning for Joe Biden. The Ukrainians know Biden helped prop up a corrupt government in their country and that he profited mightily from doing so. No wonder this video has gone viral.

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“She is the affable assassin..”

Why Senators Must Reject Avril Haines for Intelligence (MPN)

Even before President-elect Joe Biden sets foot in the White House, the Senate Intelligence Committee may start hearings on his nomination of Avril Haines as Director of National Intelligence. Barack Obama’s top lawyer on the National Security Council from 2010 to 2013 followed by CIA Deputy Director from 2013 to 2015, Haines is the proverbial wolf in sheep’s clothing. She is the affable assassin who, according to Newsweek, would be summoned in the middle of the night to decide if a citizen of any country, including our own, should be incinerated in a U.S. drone strike in a distant land in the greater Middle East. Haines also played a key role in covering up the U.S. torture program, known euphemistically as “enhanced interrogation techniques,” which included repeated waterboarding, sexual humiliation, sleep deprivation, dousing naked prisoners with ice-cold water, and rectal rehydration.

For these reasons, among others, the activist groups CODEPINK, Progressive Democrats of America, World Beyond War, and Roots Action have launched a campaign calling on the Senate to reject her confirmation. These same groups ran successful campaigns to dissuade Biden from choosing two other warmongering candidates for critical foreign policy positions: China-hawk Michele Flournoy for Secretary of Defense and torture apologist Mike Morell for CIA Director. By hosting calling parties to Senators, launching petitions and publishing Open Letters from DNC delegates, feminists—including Alice Walker, Jane Fonda, and Gloria Steinem—and Guantanamo torture survivors, activists helped derail candidates who were once considered shoo-ins for Biden’s cabinet. Now activists are challenging Avril Haines.

In 2015, when Haines was CIA Deputy Director, CIA agents illegally hacked the computers of the Senate Intelligence Committee to thwart the Committee’s investigation into the spy agency’s detention and interrogation program. Haines overruled the CIA’s own Inspector General in failing to discipline the CIA agents who violated the U.S. Constitution’s separation of powers. According to former CIA whistleblower John Kiriakou, she not only shielded the hackers from accountability but even awarded them the Career Intelligence Medal. And there’s more. When the exhaustive 6,000-page Senate Intelligence Committee report on torture was finally complete, after five years of investigation and research, Haines took charge of redacting it to deny the public’s right to know its full details, reducing the document to a 500-page, black-ink-smeared summary.

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By no means just in the UK. As the economy shrinks bigtime.

UK House Prices Rise By Most In Six Years (R.)

British house prices rose faster than expected in December to record their biggest annual increase in six years, as tax incentives and COVID-driven appetite for larger homes continued to boost demand, mortgage lender Nationwide said. House prices rose by 0.8% in December alone, barely slowing from the 0.9% recorded in November, and were 7.3% higher than a year earlier, well above forecasts in a Reuters poll for a 6.7% rise. After a collapse in house purchases during the first months of lockdown, there has been a surge in demand to move house, driven in part by a temporary exemption of property purchase taxes which will expire at the end of March.


Nationwide said the strength of the housing market contrasted with weakness in some other parts of the economy – especially those exposed to renewed COVID-19 restrictions – and said the outlook for prices in 2021 was highly uncertain. “Housing market activity is likely to slow in the coming quarters, perhaps sharply, if the labour market weakens as most analysts expect, especially once the stamp duty holiday expires at the end of March,” Nationwide economist Robert Gardner said. So far furlough payments and similar support for the self-employed had limited the impact of a historic 26% fall in economic output on the housing market, against most economists’ earlier expectations, he added.

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Propaganda.

Five Times this Year the New York Times Accidentally Told the Truth (AIER)

The paper of record in 2020 shifted dramatically to the most illiberal stance possible on the virus, pushing for full lockdowns, and ignoring or burying any information that might contradict the case for this unprecedented experiment in social and economic control. This article highlights the exceptions. The first shocking sign of the placing of a persistent bias was a podcast with reporter Donald McNeil on February 27. This was the beginning. It was grossly irresponsible. He asserted that half the American public would get this disease and that it would have a case fatality rate of 2.5%, or 25 times as deadly as flu, hence 4.8 million dead people. No consideration of demographic gradients in risk and no knowledge of viral basics such as the tradeoff between severity and prevalence.

Even if you leave aside the fog of fatality misclassification, he exaggerated the risk by 12 times but still spoke with a sense of certainty designed to create panic. Host Michael Barbaro himself seemed shocked: “I thought you were here to bring calm, Donald.” “I’m trying to bring a sense that if things don’t change, a lot of us might die,” he said. “If you have 300 relatively close friends and acquaintances, six of them would die.” The primal fear of disease is thus thrown into massive overdrive, following 100 years in which public health tried to bring rationality to the topic. That podcast was followed by an op-ed by the same journalist/pundit: “To Take On the Coronavirus, Go Medieval on It.”

It seemed incredible that such a responsible outlet would advocate the overthrow of a century of public-health wisdom and even immunological basics, but that’s what they did. At this point, the New York Times was fully committed to the narrative that we must dismantle society to save it. And there it has been for nearly a year of unbearably biased coverage. Even within the blatant and aggressive pro-lockdown bias, and consistent with the way the New York Times does its work, the paper has not been entirely barren of truth about Covid and lockdowns. Below I list five times that the news section of the paper, however inadvertently and however buried deep within the paper, actually told the truth.

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    Juan Gris Guitar on a chair 1913   • Travelers May Need A COVID Vaccine Passport To Travel In 2021 (JTN) • ER Nurse Tests Positive For COVID19 Ei
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle December 30 2020]

    #67430
    a kullervo
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    Vaccine passport

    Vaccination proof is not a matter of public health, it’s simply a matter of compliance.
    How long will it take for people to realize this?
    How long will it take to understand that the real threat to mental health is not the supposed virus but the measures used to “flatten the curve” and the fear mongering campaign waged by the current sociopath crop in charge?

    #67431
    Basseterre Kitona
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    I’m afraid I lost the plot line along the way. If the chief WHO scientist says there’s no evidence the vaccine protects you from being infected, or even from infecting others, what is the purpose of a vaccine passport?

    • Travelers May Need A COVID Vaccine Passport To Travel In 2021 (JTN)

    The purpose is to keep everybody scared into compliance with bureaucratic tyranny.

    None of it makes any logical sense. As the virus is basically everywhere now, there’s not much point in having any travel restrictions any more beyond barring sick travelers with obvious symptoms (heavy coughing). Healthy and asymptomatic people should not have to prove anything, that burden should be on airline, cruise ships or whatever.

    And if you need docs regarding your coronavirus status then why stop there? Let’s prove you are HIV free too. And have approved blood pressure. I see now reason why we can’t have Medical Doctors manning CT scanners at the security check point so that we can screen for tumors while the TSA looks for contraband. That might have actually helped me catch a tour that grew to 10 inches in my belly before I knew about it.

    #67432
    Dr. D
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    In the idiotic sense that 2020 is unprecedented, worst year ever, no, that’s only for people who are ignorant, uncurious, and illiterate.

    Among many, blast from the past, the Battle of Athens, Tennessee, 1946:

    The corruption in politics was just in your face. In Athens, Tennessee, the Cantrell-Mansfield government was not only rigging their election to stay in power, but they were also involved in bootlegging, gambling, and protection scheme shaking down local businesses and citizens along with tourists demanding big fines and fees. Because of the corruption, Athens stagnated and did not boom as other cities revived. When veterans returned home from the war and found corruption out of control, they began to confront Cantrell and Mansfield who tried to nullify the veterans’ votes and reform efforts.
    The U.S. Department of Justice proved useless back then as well who supposedly investigated allegations of electoral fraud in 1940, 1942, and 1944, but never took any action. The issue was resolved by violence, which is always the case when the rule of law fails as we see once against today. A sign marks the spot of the uprising where several hundred veterans, with some accounts claiming as many as 2,000, took up arms against the politicians who retreated to the jailhouse. They took up positions across the street and died upon them. They finally surrendered and they appointed a new government by sheet force (see account). It was common back then as well that dead voters’ participated in elections as they always do

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    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/politics/politicians-besieged-at-gun-point-over-corrupt-elections-in-1946/

    Aw, violence and standing up for yourself never works does it? One simply cannot break the law, even when it’s broken upon you. And we don’t need no Right of Self Defense, given to you by your Creator, which includes the full tools therein.
    Nope. DO AS YOU’RE TOLD!!! The Justice Department looked into it and has it all worked out. You can’t fix it ‘cause it’s already fixed.

    aDay
    https://romabyrachel.weebly.com/uploads/1/8/0/1/18019299/3332687_orig.jpg

    Population Rome, 1.3 Million to 30,000, occupied by nothing by shepherds even up to Byron’s time. That’s what a worst year looks like. Not eating chocolate cake watching Netfix in the air conditioning, waiting for your $2,000 check to show up for doing nothing.

    I’m afraid I lost the plot line along the way. If the chief WHO scientist says there’s no evidence the vaccine protects you from being infected, or even from infecting others, what is the purpose of a vaccine passport?”

    The point? POWER. Submit or be murdered where you stand. The true point of power is POWER. The end goal of power is POWER. The purpose of power is POWER. That is, EGO. And so said Orwell, who personally worked with these people and was part of their societies.

    But it’s not, really: just ask them! It’s all for pure Love, pure tolerance. Bill Gates said he wanted the vaccines to reduce overpopulation. …yes, let that sink in. He said he wanted a life-saving measure so there would be FEWER people. He lives. You die. Well, can’t say he didn’t tell you! He did! Not my fault if you don’t believe the words out of his/their own mouth.

    “It doesn’t stop when the virus is under control and there are few people in hospital. You’ve got to fund the long-term consequences.”

    You know, normally I would make fun of this sort of thing. However, do you imagine the cost of long-term medical care is over, or under, $600/person?

    “The overall figure includes 1.5 million children at risk of anxiety and depression brought about or aggravated by social isolation, quarantine or the hospitalisation or death of family members. The numbers may rise as the full impact becomes clear on Black, Asian and minority ethnic communities, care homes and people with disabilities.”

    Only these people matter. Everyone else can die. Because some animals are MOAR equal than others. For instance, recent professor says old people shouldn’t get the vaccine. Since statistically they’re white, they should die, and he will help them. No joke. Good medicine there, very Hippocratic oath stuff.

    But nobody follows anything in the Hippocratic Oath, just read it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath
    To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine
    if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction
    I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients
    Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so,
    I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion.

    What is lacking in this early original is the only phrase we quote: “First do no harm“, which they do constantly since one of the primary causes of death is doctors, and largely via officially-prescribed drugs, not accidents.

    I’ve done enough quoting here, you can look that up for yourself. HereLetMeGoogleThatForYou.com

    In any case, my point was that modern medical professionals universally agree to treat everyone, and treat them equally, regardless of race, creed, nationality, violence, merit, or even compliance. Like the Red Cross, that is all left aside until everyone is patched up, and you can fight them or among yourselves afterward. Not no more! We divide medicine by color. ‘Cause dividing people by color is the sure cure for Racism!

    “Sanders has the procedural means at his disposal to keep the Senate in session all the way to New Year’s Day…”

    That would be shocking indeed as he’s never fought for anything and has always rolled over.

    “Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT), with the backing of the Senate Democratic caucus, is prepared to make life miserable for Senate Republicans”

    Um, no, the Senate DNC was against this until just a minute ago when Trump embarrassed them all. Then they said Trump, who proposed like $1,200/per 4 months ago, and $2,000 now, was the OBSTACLE to passing it. Oh and doesn’t this mean Bernie, the Progressives, and Trump are all close allies? Trump would even allow the vote on Medicare-for-All, (so long as it doesn’t pass) which is better than every DNC from Pelosi all the way over the AOC. So since Trump is now on the far-left, who are they against?

    “Ukraine Press Conference Explicitly Ties Hunter & Joe Biden To Corruption” “Can we bury this story too?” What story? Does that give you a clue who they’re fighting?

    “It seemed incredible that such a responsible outlet would advocate the overthrow of a century of public-health wisdom and even immunological basics, but that’s what they did. At this point, the New York Times was fully committed to the narrative that we must dismantle society to save it.

    Who is the enemy? Who are we fighting again?

    Fun for fun, this reveals all the GOP RINO-Weasels who pretended to care about…anything. You know, 90% of the party. Vs. 91% of the DNC party? Yes, I mark a difference, but it’s very, very small.

    “Why Senators Must Reject Avril Haines for Intelligence (MPN)”

    They wouldn’t have this problem if she was in prison with all the others. Like Dick Cheney. …Back in 1987.

    But I’m sure people have a long, long list, much longer than mine. Just ask them and we can get started. “Freedom and JUSTICE for all.” You know: equally. We already investigated the President for 3 years, let’s spread the joy. Who’s with me?

    #67433
    Dr. D
    Participant

    More practical, Dr. Day, do they have anything on the long-term Covid syndrome yet? Ways to forestall it, of course, but more for recovery and repairs?

    #67434
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “authorities in the Swiss Canton of Lucerne said on Wednesday that one of the first people in the country to receive the vaccine has died, though whether his death had anything to do with the inoculation hasn’t yet been determined.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/swiss-patient-dies-shortly-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine

    And just so you guys know what the general treatment is of anyone who questions the official numbers:

    Mr. House
    Dec 28, 2020 at 11:09 pm

    Not to mention this from the CDC’s website

    “For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.9 additional conditions or causes per death.”
    Reply

    Wolf Richter
    Dec 29, 2020 at 12:54 am

    Mr. House,

    In Vietnam, 55,000 or so Americans died from all kinds of causes of death, such as organ failure due to perforation from foreign objects, or they died from damage to their brain, or they died from infections, and from bleeding to death, and from a million other causes of death. And some just disappeared and their deaths were never verified. Almost no one “died of Viet Cong.” Get it???

    The corona itself doesn’t kill you. The corona causes your organs to fail, and it causes other conditions in your body of which you might die.

    It’s like dying in a car accident. You didn’t die because your car got hit by another car. You died because you bled to death or because of heart failure or brain failure, or whatever. That’s how life is.

    I’m just so sick and tired of reading this Covid-is-no-big-deal garbage after 340,000 Americans have died of Covid in 10 months because too many people believed in that garbage.
    Happy1
    Dec 29, 2020 at 11:28 pm

    This is garbage. I work in healthcare and people are dying of COVID-19 pneumonia complicated by all kinds of other organ failure. Please talk with any local ICU nurse and then respond.

    #67435
    Mr. House
    Participant

    He was nice enough to delete all of my responses, but let thru others just so i know how much garbage it is i spew! Land of the free home of the brave baby!

    #67436
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Now i need to contact local ICU nurses!

    #67437
    Mr. House
    Participant

    Didn’t you guys know Covid is a war? I’m glad i’ve been corrected by the fear police!

    #67438
    anticlimactic
    Participant

    VACCINE

    One of the things that concerns me about vaccination is whether they are tested for antibodies first.

    If someone has already had the virus and the body is sensitized to the virus what happens when the blood stream is flooded with what looks like viruses? Does it go into overdrive producing antibodies? Also, is it still accepted fact that antibodies start attacking the body and are responsible for the serious after effects of infection?

    Testing for antibodies could also be useful to determine what percentage of the population have had the virus. The only ‘official’ sufferers are those diagnosed by the discredited PCR test. So ‘officially’ there are about 80 million cases but it is likely to be ten time that amount.

    #67439
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “One of the things that concerns me about vaccination is whether they are tested for antibodies first.”

    What concerns me is if they are telling the truth, period. Do we even need vaccines if c-19 can be treated with other things which are much cheaper and won’t require shots every two months?

    #67440
    zerosum
    Participant

    …. there may be a problem ….
    I see things differently

    Juan Gris Guitar on a chair 1913 – I don’t see that. I see that the emperor has no clothes.
    —–

    @anticlimactic

    VACCINE

    “One of the things that concerns me about vaccination is whether they are tested for antibodies first.

    If someone has already had the virus and the body is sensitized to the virus what happens?”

    Geee!
    That is my question …. from waaaay back when.
    ———
    @ readers
    TAE finds interesting news headline.
    Sometimes, Dr. D, finds ways of interpreting and digging out the truth hidden in the news
    I like to digggg and digggg to verify the truth hidden in the heaaadlines
    —–

    #67442
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Proud of what he doesn’t know?


    FDA Commissioner on COVID Vaccines: ‘I’m Incredibly Proud’

    …There are three things we really need to know:
    (1) Do these vaccines stop asymptomatic transmission?
    (2) How long will protection last?
    (3) How effective will they be against mutations?

    https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/943266

    #67443
    teri
    Participant

    Now this is interesting, assuming that the reporting is completely accurate: Russia is working on an antidote to Covid.

    “Russia’s Federal Medical and Biological Agency (FMBA) has announced the development of a drug to fight against Covid-19, which would become the world’s first direct-acting antiviral antidote if clinical trials are successful.
    According to Veronika Skvortsova, the head of FMBA, studies thus far have shown it is more than 99% effective. […]”

    https://www.rt.com/russia/511116-world-first-covid19-antidote/

    #67444

    saw that teri, wonder what it’s based on

    #67446
    teri
    Participant

    Ilargi,

    The article does not say. It goes on to mention another drug that they use to treat cases where there is a cytokine storm (Avifavir, which has been used on severe cases of flu in Japan), but they seem to want to keep this new drug under wraps until testing is finished. Probably worried about formula theft, or maybe they just don’t want to hype it too much in case the testing doesn’t prove it as effective as they hoped.

    Anyway, a good additional approach to Covid, considering that the “vaccines” aren’t really vaccines. In the US, it seems we do some shit fast and call it done, no matter how slipshod and raggedy the result is.

    #67447
    Noirette
    Participant

    Dr. Soumya is quite right (prev. thread vid. clip) to say there is no guarantee the vaccine prevents infection, transmission of the novel corona virus, etc.

    Here she is at WHO in Sept. 2020, vid 5 m., from WHO site. All she says sounds more or less reasonable, ex. re. dates, testing of vaccines, their roll-out. (Within the general present framework ..for sure nothing new / interesting / smart > these are well-paid functionaries.)

    https://bit.ly/34VG5L8

    Note in this clip the questions fielded are pointed — to social and irrelevant issues, such as convincing others, ideals, i.e. NOT solliciting clear medical information.

    What happens is that many ppl working for these orgs. are sincere and trying to do their best, and automatically believe their superiors (adhere to what their bosses tell them.) The bosses give hints and pointers (e.g. the public needs to be convinced, one ex.) I mean, it is not all a ‘fake’ show, that is, an orchestrated performance by a multiplicity of actors. It is the covert subversion or take-over of an int. org. that *was* a ‘hope’ after WW2.

    Gvmts., the front face of Corps, the MSM (by now maybe just one entity) distort and spin and outright lie about anything that doesn’t suit their agenda. They are the first to ‘deny Science.’ They hold the cards to impose a ‘dominant narrative.’

    The WHO is now funded for a large part by ‘outside contributions’ (=> not contirbutions thru the UN scheme, per country member at some rate.)

    WHO contributors to WHO according to WHO on their main public site:

    https://www.who.int/about/funding/contributors

    From WHO, more detail..

    https://open.who.int/2020-21/contributors/contributor

    All that ‘off the top’ large categories hides much.

    #67449
    John Day
    Participant

    @My Parents Said Know:
    You asked about citrus seedlings. Yes, they are unpredictable. My seeds are from an orange tree from an orange seed, but there is a tangerine tree from seed right next to it, and they can cross pollinate, By the time the seedlings get to be a foot and a half or so, they start making spikes. Spiky citrus seems to be more cold tolerant, in general. It may be a long time before I see what fruit they make. Grafts onto rootstock think they are already a grown-up tree, so they make fruit much sooner,

    I’ve been away/busy a few days yet again.

    #67450
    John Day
    Participant

    Lots of health care workers who have already had COVID (like my MD daughter) are getting vaccinated, no questions asked of anybody, as to whether this makes sense.
    It’s a big, advertised rollout, mainly driven by PR. All the professional communication I get about it is sales pitches to reassure patients, as if that’s absolutely the right thing to do.
    No evidence… There is so little evidence, and it is equivocal.

    #67451
    John Day
    Participant

    https://www.johndayblog.com/2020/12/still-swimming-in-covid.html

    We are now into the “second wave” of COVID.
    In (sunny) Texas hospitalized cases have just exceeded their previous mid July peak.
    There is controversy about the term “second wave”. It may mean different things to different people.
    Why would there be an interruption in the spread of contagious illness through a population?
    There are masks and social distancing, which make it somewhat harder for virus to jump from host to host.
    There are also host-resistance factors.
    Being susceptible to a bad outcome, if infected, is different from being more or less susceptible to initial infection.
    We have repeatedly been shown that adequate levels of vitamin-D in a person reduce risk of infection when exposed (nasopharyngeal innate-immunity is supported.) and we have repeatedly seen that the lowest vitamin-D levels are closely correlated with worst hospital outcomes.
    Giving high-dose vitamin-D in a Spanish study was a very effective treatment intervention for hospitalized patients.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194/
    Vitamin-D levels mostly come from sunshine entering the skin surface and creating active vitamin D. Darker skin , weaker sun, and less skin exposure to the sun all decrease vitamin-D levels. Vitamin-D builds and falls slowly in the body, over months, so the peak levels lag peak sun by about 3 months. Also, people may avoid August sun, and go back out in September. The curves will be different in Hawaii and New York.
    It is clear that dark skinned people in northern climes get hit the hardest, but that dark skinned people in Africa are faring tremendously better.
    I have not seen a published comparison of vitamin-D levels by population, area and season, but they can be reasoned out.
    Do support your local immune system this winter, please! Vitamin-D 5000 units per day is a good dose for adults, and can be doubled for the first month or 2 to get blood levels up into the mid normal range.

    Jeremy in the UK sent this:
    Hospital Crisis Results From Lack of At-Home Treatment for COVID-19

    Hospital Crisis Results From Lack of At-Home Treatment for COVID-19

    ​Here is an August interview with Professor Thomas Borody, regarding ivermectin, zinc, doxycycline treatment for COVID-19, which is curative.
    Professor Borody developed the cure for peptic ulcer disease, caused by H. pylori infection. People stopped dying of bleeding ulcers, but adoption was slow, since ordinary generic medicines could be used. There was no fortune to be made.
    ​https://covexit.com/we-know-its-curable-its-easier-than-treating-the-flu-professor-thomas-borody/

    Ziverdo costs $2 in India. It’s zinc, ivermectin and doxycycline at fixed doses. People seem to have a very hard time getting it to Europe or the US when seeking to order it online.

    Did you Hear about the ZIVERDO Therapy for COVID-19?

    Here is the COVID-19 Essentials site that Jeremy sent.Treating physicians contribute to and update this site as a public service.

    COVID-19 Essentials

    Here is Dr Paul Marik’s treatment protocol. Pages 9-11 are most relevant to outpatients, but the prophylaxis section following next is also useful.
    The first few pages give a good description of what pathologic processes are occurring at what stages of infection, and what interventions are appropriate at each stage. This is the best overall reference, and includes many, many optional additions for consideration.
    https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

    #67452
    zerosum
    Participant

    When the top 10%’s bubble pops in 2021, the loss of illusions/delusions of security and wealth will be shattering to all those who believed artifice and illusory “wealth” were real. What’s real is the tide of financialization and globalization reversed over a year ago. The tide is now running out, but few loading their “wealth” into lifeboats have noticed–yet.

    http://charleshughsmith.blogspot.com/2020/12/the-top-10s-bubble-is-about-to-burst.html
    TUESDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2020
    The Top 10%’s Bubble Is About to Burst
    (Not yet. There will be more printing in 2021)

    #67453
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    Note how the CDC “guidance” is framed as a directive (“need to get vaccinated”, “should be offered to you”, “may delay vaccination”).


    If I already had COVID-19 and recovered, do I still need to get vaccinated with a COVID-19 vaccine when it’s available?

    COVID-19 vaccination should be offered to you regardless of whether you already had COVID-19 infection. You should not be required to have an antibody test before you are vaccinated.

    However, anyone currently infected with COVID-19 should wait to get vaccinated until after their illness has resolved and after they have met the criteria to discontinue isolation.

    Additionally, current evidence suggests that reinfection with the virus that causes COVID-19 is uncommon in the 90 days after initial infection. Therefore, people with a recent infection may delay vaccination until the end of that 90-day period if desired.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/faq.html

    The article I linked above has this from Peter Marks, the director for the Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER) at the FDA:

    Marks: It would be very cumbersome to screen people for infection before vaccinating them.

    #67454
    madamski
    Participant

    There is more than ample evidence that our institutions of authority are mostly using covid for reasons other than honest pandemic control, and that what they are doing in this regard generally just makes things worse. How much of this is ‘merely’ the incompetence of reactionary corruption, and how much of this may be the result of proactive corrupt planning begun before anyone had heard of covid, is anyone’s percentage ratio, i.e., guess. However, the commonly proposed corrolary conspiracy to this — that covid is mostly harmless, an overblown bugaboo — remains ambiguous at best.

    I see no reason to think Wolf Richter is lying. This doesn’t mean he’s telling the truth, either. But calling him a liar doesn’t make him a liar anymore than the opposite would be true. The suggestion to call local ICU nurses is hardly without merit for persons seeking to obtain for themselves hard data and opinions from honest-to-good/bad-ness healthcare professionals who should have first-hand knowledge of covid mortality in their ICU.

    #67455
    Geppetto
    Participant

    Dr. Day:

    I have forwarded that EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf to numerous people. Good stuff. Thanks!

    On this mornings dog walkie *we* decided to go up at the start, which is good cuz it means downhill on the way home. Wind was brisk and in my face on the climb out. I was practicing my nose breathing as I always do but the wind was cold enough to sting my nostrils. I had my cotton mask in my pocket and I thought ‘perfect, this will help warm the air a bit’. Perfect opportunity to conduct some amateur science. For the first 20-25 exhales the amount of air that was passing back thru the mask was substantial. I could feel breath on my hand held 2-3″ in front of my mask. This was surprising and made me think about the “the mask protects you from me” camp. The trail has some decent gradient so I was exhaling a good amount of moisture in my breath as we worked our way upwards. And then something more surprising happened, I could no longer feel any breath on my hand 2-3″ in front of my mask. The amount of moisture that had accumulated on the inside of the mask was starting to restrict the airflow thru it on the exhale. My masks are cotton ones I get from the screen printer next to the shop. Pretty standard stuff I think. This change in the *function* of the mask made me think about the ” masks increase the viral load inside the mask camp”. A shoddy uncontrolled experiment for sure but it might be fun to design an experiment that would take in as many variables one might encounter in REAL life. And there are very many I can think of but won’t even try to list here. So I guess my take away was that since no body has the time or energy to do a proper real world contextual mask study I have a good idea that a properly fit N-95 would do a very good job if you threw it away after every hours usage. I see very few using an N-95 in my day to day. I’m thinking this morning the virus( and all pathogenic little critters for that matter!) are in the wild and always have and will be. I suppose a little precautionary principle always helps but not to the extent that ones mental health is at risk…I.E: Dr. D’s hide in the basement for the rest of your life scenario. I have been following John Day’s sage and pragmatic advice long before he laid it out here. I suppose on some levels we are kindred…… probably mostly when we both realized that out little agricultural experiments look like an oasis to all the little critters! hahahaha!

    Anyways just musing and rambling. Ran across this poignant little essay via a thread off of Normonics twitter. I liked the part about camping in the forest KNOWING that the bears were in it with them! hahaha! The inherent risk in life, always present!

    Exodus from the Zone

    #67456
    kultsommer
    Participant

    Lot of well meaning “logical assertions and suggestions” in comment string, as if creators of of this twilight zone somehow overlooked rightful points printed. Logic, court of law and any other decent means will not stop the train. we’d reached point of no return.
    Yesterday, while in a beautiful park by the Pacific, salty ocean smell mixed with eucalyptus tree emissions: me and wife and one small group buy the picnic table were the only ones “without” among hundred or so.
    They are already rolling out Cobe’s casket with his decomposed body as the theme of the next month just in case if proles start questioning $600 vs $2,000.
    Happy New Year to all at TAE.

    #67457
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @Madamski

    I wasn’t calling wolf a liar, all i did was post the CDC’s own data. Does his response and that below (which in my opinion were aggressive) seem like they were driven by logic or emotion in your opinion? My point is the viewpoint that they profess is what isn’t being censored in the news or online, to tie into rauls thank you post from the other day.

    #67458
    zerosum
    Participant

    Was hacking ….. Russia-Russia-Russia – China-China-China
    Read an expert report

    https://oig.nasa.gov/docs/IG-21-010.pdf
    December 22, 2020
    TO: Jeff Seaton, Authorizing Official
    Acting Chief Information Officer
    Robert L. Binkley, Information System Owner
    Deputy Associate Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity and Privacy
    SUBJECT: Final Memorandum, Fiscal Year 2020 Federal Information Security Modernization Act
    Evaluation – An Agency Common System (IG-21-010, A-20-012-01)
    The Federal Information Security Modernization Act of 2014 (FISMA) requires that we conduct annual
    independent evaluations of information security programs and practices at NASA. As part of this year’s
    evaluation of NASA’s information security program, we examined an Agency-operated information
    system known as an Agency Common System (ACS).1
    This memorandum reports the issues and
    concerns identified during our evaluation of this system for the authorizing official’s and system owner’s
    awareness and action. Relatedly, we reported our overall FISMA evaluation results to the Office of
    Management and Budget (OMB) on October 30, 2020. See Enclosure I for details on our scope and
    methodology.

    Major contributors to this audit and report include Mark Jenson, Financial Management Director; Joseph
    Shook, Project Manager; James Pearce; and Aleisha Fisher. Matt Ward provided editorial and graphics
    assistance.
    If you have questions or wish to comment on the quality or usefulness of this memorandum, contact
    Laurence Hawkins, Audit Operations and Quality Assurance Director, at 202-358-1543 or
    laurence.b.hawkins@nasa.gov.
    Paul K. Martin
    Inspector General
    cc: Mike Witt
    Associate Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity and Privacy
    Cody Scott
    Chief Cyber Risk Officer

    #67459
    Mr. House
    Participant

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/tokyo-health-care-system-risks-covid-induced-collapse-germany-sees-record-deaths-live

    Tokyo at risk of collapse eh? Doesn’t everyone in Asia wear masks all the time? And i thought if only we just gave up our freedoms like China we would have won the “war” on covid already?

    Who to believe in this age of fraud?

    #67460
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Interesting. So they are essentially saying there is no such thing as natural immunity. Which is what the WHO just edited as NEWSPEAK on their website.

    I mean, if you were naturally immune from getting it like every other thing in the history of human medicine, you wouldn’t need the vaccine, would you? But according to the Mr. Fix-it-up chappy, the Sneetches need to buy and take it anyway.

    “And when every last dollar of money was spent — the Fix-it-up chap packed up…and he went.”

    Went to find another test that most people now admit is +80% inaccurate. Hey, maybe you have herpes! Let me give you this 80% inaccurate test and see if you need to buy Herr Docktor’s magical mystical cure. …For a modest fee of course. And with some guaranteed side effects, including several instant deaths.

    #67461
    Mr. House
    Participant

    @madamski

    I wonder if you were 30 years younger if you’d still feel the same, since having second thoughts due to all the contradictions coming from the “experts” in an election year no less, against one of the most reviled figures based on democrat “conspiracies” as you call them are censored day in and out by the same media that pushed “conspiracies” for four years now censors those it hates. Which i find strange since the signs i see in my deep blue city in all the yards that state “hate has no home here” can be disproved by saying one name out loud. We are all human, none of us are perfect or non corruptible. I just choose not to believe liars anymore.

    #67463
    Mr. House
    Participant

    “Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live. And unselfishness is letting other people’s lives alone, not interfering with them. Selfishness always aims at creating around it an absolute uniformity of type. Unselfishness recognizes infinite variety of type as a delightful thing, accepts it, acquiesces in it, enjoys it. It is not selfish to think for oneself. A man who does not think for himself does not think at all. It is grossly selfish to require of one’s neighbor that he should think in the same way, and hold the same opinions. Why should he? If he can think, he will probably think differently. If he cannot think, it is monstrous to require thought of any kind from him. A red rose is not selfish because it wants to be a red rose. It would be horribly selfish if it wanted all the other flowers in the garden to be both red and roses.”

    #67464
    upstateNYer
    Participant

    @Mr House: thank you for the “selfishness” post. I’m saving that one to remind myself when needed.

    Also, I agree that Wolf was unnecessarily aggressive (reactive?) in his response to you. It seems to be commonplace, when it comes to covid, to slap anyone who questions the perpetual fear porn. When you get an emotional reaction to a rational question or statement, the other person feels their personal belief is threatened.

    #67465
    WES
    Participant

    Did the virus kill the flu?

    I have seen a number of articles wondering where the flu went.

    Is it possible the virus test also gives a “positive” result if you have the flu?

    After all the flu is avirus!

    #67466
    WES
    Participant

    Regarding Mitch McConnell. He gives snakes a bad name!

    What people don’t understand about Mitch, is that by not passing the $2,000 checks, he is deliberately trying to throw the 2 Georgia senate races on January 5 to the Democrats!

    Yes, you read that correctly! (He already threw the presidency to Biden!)

    Let’s back up a little bit. To pass any bills in the Senate normally requires 60 votes. If the Senate’s majority leader is a few votes short of reaching 60 votes, he then needs to “buy” enough votes from the Senate’s minority leader to pass a bill. The Senate’s minority leader then “sells” the required numbers of votes for an agreed upon price.

    Mitch much perfers being the Senate’s minority leader (seller), not being the Senate’s majority leader (buyer). (As Senate minority leader he also escapes blame for anything that happens!)

    When you are the Senate’s minority leader, you get to “sell” repubblican senator votes to the Senate’s majority leader (“buyer”)!

    Mitch much prefers being a seller, not a buyer.

    The Democrats will win the 2 Georgia Senate runoff races! It is a done deal!

    #67467
    WES
    Participant

    Mr. House:

    I think we can say; Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, were very, very selfish people!

    #67468
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    $2,000 cheques
    I find it very hard to understand why so many of the US ruling classes seem so keen on starving the poor. But then, In this country (Oz), the neoliberal ruling classes have the same instincts: the poor are weak, lazy, unmeritorious, and don’t deserve help.

    This isn’t governance or government, it’s Applied Psychopathy. Honestly, at times I feel that little people like me are simply baggage not wanted on the elites’ voyage and can be jettisoned.

    Never mind. If the climate change scientists are correct, then our goose is cooked about 2050. I’ll be safely dead by then and the elites can spend the rest of their lives as some kind of troglodytes hiding from the heat.

    Vaccination Dictatorship
    Vaccination passports are nothing new. I had one early on in life. Many decades ago when my parents brought me from India to Oz, I needed vaccinations for Yellow Fever and Cholera. Proof of these was noted in a yellow-covered WHO-issued passport-sized booklet which had to be shown on arrival. I may still have it buried somewhere in my archives.

    Of course, back then it wasn’t tied to every other aspect of life. Subsequent vaccinations (chiefly polio and tetanus) were not recorded in the booklet. I think I may have needed to show it to one medico but never again. This vaccination dictatorship that is now being speedily and eagerly set up is possible only in our electronically interconnected world.

    #67470
    Bill7
    Participant

    Mr. House: what happened to you at Richter’s site happened to me at NC in mid-March, when I politely pointed
    out some non-controversial, readily available, mainstream facts re: Da Covid. Ms. Smith’s response went
    immediately ad hominem: “have you lost your mind?.. body bags.. refrigerator-truck morgues..mass graves..”,
    *all of which* could be debunked with a couple of clicks-clicks.. and I surmised then what was going on.

    you know the drill

    #67471
    Bill7
    Participant

    Adding: the intelligence agencies’ co-option of what i’ll now-laughably call ‘The Left’ really has been a masterstroke: anyone not falling for the consensus Cobid narrative is now said to be an “alt-right racist
    deplorable generally bad evil person”..

    Wonder for how long they’ve owned the left

    #67472
    WES
    Participant

    Mr. House:

    Wolfe has bitten me a few times too! So you are in good company!

    However, I have to admit hosting a web site unfortunately probably requires some policing or the comments can get out of hand (like personal attacks) and off topic.

    I go to Wolfe Street for probably for the same reasons you do.

    #67473
    Bill7
    Participant

    Davey Miller at “small” Pipe, age sixty:

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CJafvSCnfaO/

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