May 042021
 


Franco Fontana Prague 1967

 

US To Authorize Pfizer Vaccine For Ages 12-15 Early Next Week (R.)
Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely In The US, Experts Now Believe (NYT)
The Missing Piece of the Covid-19 Death Puzzle: Co-Infection (Sardi)
The CDC, VUMC, Johns Hopkins Are All *DONE* (Denninger)
England To Pilot Daily Covid Tests As Way To Avoid Self-isolation (G.)
SARS-CoV-2 Variants Still Recognized by T Cells (NIH)
Covid S Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2 (AHA)
Florida Gov. DeSantis Suspends All Local Coronavirus Emergency Orders (JTN)
‘Far More Likely’ Coronavirus Came From Lab, Ex-MI6 Chief (LBC)
The Criminalization of Dissent (CJ Hopkins)
Biden Family Justice (Kunstler)
Moscow Has Plan To Ditch US Dollar & Axe Dependency On West (Gavin)

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Main reason for hesitancy to take Covid vaccine from average Americans is they assume ALL risk. If something goes wrong, you can’t sue Moderna/Pfizer. And without FDA approval government isn’t accountable, either. Therefore, the patient/citizen assumes ALL risk.”

 

 

 

This for me remains the scariest part of it all.

“Pfizer and Moderna have also launched trials in even younger children, from six months to 11 years old.”

US To Authorize Pfizer Vaccine For Ages 12-15 Early Next Week (R.)

The US Food and Drug Administration is preparing to authorize the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine for adolescents between ages 12 and 15 years by early next week, the New York Times reported on Monday, citing federal officials familiar with the agency’s plans. An approval is highly anticipated after the drugmakers said in March that the vaccine had been found to be safe, effective and produced robust antibody responses in 12- to 15-year-olds in a clinical trial. Responding to a Reuters request for comment, the FDA said its review of expanding the vaccine’s emergency use authorization was continuing, but it did not provide further details. The vaccine has already been cleared in the United States for people age 16 and above.


The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) director, Rochelle Walensky, said earlier in April that the vaccine could be approved by mid-May. If an approval for the 12-15-year-olds is granted, the CDC’s vaccine advisory panel will probably meet the following day to review the clinical trial data and make recommendations for the vaccine’s use in adolescents, the report said. Approval of the vaccine would boost the country’s immunization drive and help allay fears of parents anxious to protect their children from Covid-19. Moderna and Johnson & Johnson are also testing their vaccines in 12- to 18-year olds, with data from Moderna’s trial expected to come soon. Pfizer and Moderna have also launched trials in even younger children, from six months to 11 years old. Both companies have said they hope to be able to vaccinate children under 11 as soon as early 2022.

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Vaccine promo (vaccine porn?) . One-dimensional. It’s a pattern: first promotion of hand cleaners, then masks, then of lockdowns, now of vaccines.

Where would we be if they had promoted vit. D and ivermection in the same fashion?

Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely In The US, Experts Now Believe (NYT)

Early in the pandemic, when vaccines for the coronavirus were still just a glimmer on the horizon, the term “herd immunity” came to signify the endgame: the point when enough Americans would be protected from the virus so we could be rid of the pathogen and reclaim our lives. Now, more than half of adults in the United States have been inoculated with at least one dose of a vaccine. But daily vaccination rates are slipping, and there is widespread consensus among scientists and public health experts that the herd immunity threshold is not attainable – at least not in the foreseeable future, and perhaps not ever.

Instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than making a long-promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the United States for years to come, still causing hospitalizations and deaths but in much smaller numbers. How much smaller is uncertain and depends in part on how much of the nation, and the world, becomes vaccinated and how the coronavirus evolves. It is already clear, however, that the virus is changing too quickly, new variants are spreading too easily and vaccination is proceeding too slowly for herd immunity to be within reach anytime soon. Continued immunizations, especially for people at highest risk because of age, exposure or health status, will be crucial to limiting the severity of outbreaks, if not their frequency, experts believe.

“The virus is unlikely to go away,” said Rustom Antia, an evolutionary biologist at Emory University in Atlanta. “But we want to do all we can to check that it’s likely to become a mild infection.” The shift in outlook presents a new challenge for public health authorities. The drive for herd immunity – by the summer, some experts once thought possible – captured the imagination of large segments of the public. To say the goal will not be attained adds another “why bother” to the list of reasons that vaccine skeptics use to avoid being inoculated.

Dr Anthony Fauci, the Biden administration’s top adviser on Covid-19, acknowledged the shift in experts’ thinking. “People were getting confused and thinking you’re never going to get the infections down until you reach this mystical level of herd immunity, whatever that number is,” he said. “That’s why we stopped using herd immunity in the classic sense,” he added. “I’m saying: Forget that for a second. You vaccinate enough people, the infections are going to go down.”

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“The so-called “super-spreaders” are the asymptomatic RNA-vaccinated (Pfizer/ Moderna) individuals that shed the virus. In an anticipated misdirection, the unvaccinated will then be mistakenly blamed for the spread of the virus and a predicted witch hunt will ensue for the anti-vaxxers..”

The Missing Piece of the Covid-19 Death Puzzle: Co-Infection (Sardi)

Funny thing we realized on the way to the funeral parlor to bury our friends and loved ones who were vaccinated against COVID-19 coronavirus, that the vaccine didn’t work. COVID-19 vaccines, like flu shots, don’t work as well for new strains of the virus. For that, you will need perpetual immunization, say vaccine makers. Oh, there are people dying, 7700 every day in the US. But was their passing solely attributed to COVID-19? Since the COVID-19 fatality numbers are exaggerated by a PCR nasal swab test that results in 97% false positives (all of the COVID-19 PCR tests during the past 14 months have been found to be invalid), there is no way to confirm deaths were caused by COVID-19 or COVID-19 was a bystander, the difference between dying OF COVID-19 or dying WITH COVID-19! Deaths are being drummed up to create fear and false demand for vaccines.

Also, in case you hadn’t heard, “a resurgence in both hospitalizations and deaths will be ‘dominated by those that have received two doses of the vaccine,” says the respected Scientific Pandemic Influenza Group. “At least 60 percent of all new COVID-19 cases are occurring in people who were already vaccinated.” So far, hundreds who have been vaccinated got sick again and some have died. This is being reported in different locations. We have a vaccine that reduces severity of symptoms but not the ratio of hospitalizations and deaths among infected subjects! The so-called “super-spreaders” are the asymptomatic RNA-vaccinated (Pfizer/ Moderna) individuals that shed the virus. In an anticipated misdirection, the unvaccinated will then be mistakenly blamed for the spread of the virus and a predicted witch hunt will ensue for the anti-vaxxers, a development foreseen in my March 26, 2021 posting.

But how could a mutated common cold virus kill off humans like flies? Well, at no time were any human populations dying like flies. As stated in prior reports, the percentage of people dying of COVID-19 who reside outside of nursing homes is but one-quarter of one-percent. Vaccination, which is said to be 95% effective, but that is not 95 out of 100 in hard numbers. On an accumulated basis as of May 1, 2021 in the U.S., 31,889,171 laboratory- confirmed infections (9.7% of the population) with 568,836 questionable deaths (0.0017% or 1.7 per thousand). But even these numbers are fallacious. If the PCR nasal swab test were properly performed, then 97% COVID-19 infections as a cause of death cannot be confirmed.

Only 6% of deaths were without co-morbid conditions (diabetes, heart disease, etc.), meaning maybe only 34,130 COVID-19 deaths solely attributed to COVID-19 instead of 568,836 – for a true fatality risk 0.0001 or 1 in 10,000. That means 10,000 must be vaccinated to spare 1 life. While the serious side effect rate for the vaccines is very small, it exceeds the number who will potentially benefit from vaccination. Your chance of benefiting from vaccination is nil. And vaccination will not prevent infections or deaths if your immune system is not intact, or if the strain of the virus does not match the vaccine. [..] How are face masks, social distancing and hand washing, going to meaningfully reduce your risk of dying from COVID-19 when only 1 in 10,000 are at risk?

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“COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.”

“The science says it’s not harmless; it is in fact pathogenic. The CDC is lying and as a result people are dying.”

The CDC, VUMC, Johns Hopkins Are All *DONE* (Denninger)

There might be a few fathers left in this country. Maybe. If so it is my sincere hope that they hold people to personal account who inflicted these harms on their sons and daughters, of which there will be tens if not hundreds of thousands reasonably tied to these so-called “interventions”, including the shots, in the current and coming years. The ghouls involved did not give a crap about the law from the start. The EUAs were flatly illegal because we knew by summer of 2020 that there were decades-old proved safe and believed effective treatments. We didn’t use them, on purpose, for the explicit reason that doing so would prevent these EUAs from being issued. By deliberately lying the FDA, CDC and dozens of other organizations and individuals along with the corporate physician and hospital networks directly caused the death of hundreds of thousands of Americans who should not have died, and caused deliberate harm to hundreds of thousands more who are now left with what may well be a lifelong debilitating impact as a result of the scream-fest for “everyone” to go get these unproved and now-known-dangerous injections.

Nobody knows how bad, or for how long, those future disabilities and risk of death will be or for how long they will continue but that there is severe impact is now known; we are now down to trying to figure out how horrid. The CDC still claims the spike protein in the shots is “harmless” despite three scientific papers dating to December stating otherwise, one of which is peer reviewed and another from Salk, with the first known published evidence of a problem dating back to September of 2020. All were deliberately ignored and still are being ignored. “COVID-19 mRNA vaccines give instructions for our cells to make a harmless piece of what is called the “spike protein.” The spike protein is found on the surface of the virus that causes COVID-19.”

The science says it’s not harmless; it is in fact pathogenic. The CDC is lying and as a result people are dying. If you think this can remain “under wraps” and not get into the public consciousness you’re wrong. While the pharma firms may have legal immunity no private entity or public other entity does and the ambulance chasers will be out in droves to make the next $10 or $50 billion windfall asset-stripping colleges and their endowments, sports teams, concert venues and other commercial and government entities of every bit of flesh they can pick off. Unfortunately the injured will get little or nothing after the lawyers get done, as has always been the case. The destruction of these entities is both just and will happen, but it’s nowhere near the end game or best of outcomes.

The best of outcomes, which we will also obtain, will be the complete destruction of any sort of trust, belief or other willingness to listen to so-called “public health” authorities for years or even decades into the future. This is not a bad thing; they’ve been full of crap for decades, poisoning people slowly by advocating the consumption of a carbohydrate-rich diet, essentially cramming liquid milk into the gullets of children, many of whom are lactose intolerant to some degree and for which there is no evidence of benefit, calling “ketchup”, which is mostly sugar, a “vegetable” and other similar outrages. McDonalds and the rest of the fast food industry followed said “guidance” and stopped using beef tallow from their hamburgers to fry the potatoes; that switch alone has killed hundreds of thousands over the last few decades, as vegetable oils of this sort should never be consumed in any meaningful quantity. They do not occur in nature in anything similar to what we consume today and every one of them has a horrid inflammatory profile.

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Next up: hourly testing.

Do any of these tests look for the presence of T cells?

England To Pilot Daily Covid Tests As Way To Avoid Self-isolation (G.)

Daily testing of the contacts of people who test positive for Covid is to be trialled, the government has announced, in an effort to reduce the need for people to self-isolate unnecessarily. People who test positive for Covid and their close contacts currently have to isolate for 10 days, but recent research has suggested compliance may be low. One study found that only about 50% of people who had Covid symptoms said they fully adhered to self-isolation. The trial, which launches on Sunday and is led by Public Health England (PHE) and NHS test and trace, will explore whether the use of daily testing of close contacts could reduce the need for people to isolate.


“We know that isolating when you have been in contact with someone who has tested positive for Covid-19 is challenging, but it remains vitally important to stop the spread of infection,” said Prof Isabel Oliver, PHE’s national infection service director and the study lead. “This study will help to determine whether we can deploy daily testing for contacts to potentially reduce the need for self-isolation, while still ensuring that chains of transmission are stopped. “Contacts of cases are at higher risk of infection, so testing them is a very effective way of preventing further spread. This study will play an important part of our evaluation of daily contact testing and how the approach to testing might evolve.” The government’s Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) had previously noted the potential for daily testing.

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From March 31 2021. It appears to say T cells come from vaccines or infection, but we know many people (81%?!) have T cells regardless. I’m not sure of these are the specific CD8+ T cells.

SARS-CoV-2 Variants Still Recognized by T Cells (NIH)

When variants of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) emerged in late 2020, concern arose that they might elude protective immune responses generated by prior infection or vaccination, potentially making re-infection more likely or vaccination less effective. To investigate this possibility, researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, and colleagues analyzed blood cell samples from 30 people who had contracted and recovered from COVID-19 prior to the emergence of virus variants. They found that one key player in the immune response to SARS-CoV-2—the CD8+ T cell—remained active against the virus. The research team was led by NIAID’s Andrew Redd, Ph.D., and included scientists from Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and the Immunomics-focused company, ImmunoScape.

The investigators asked whether CD8+ T cells in the blood of recovered COVID-19 patients, infected with the initial virus, could still recognize three SARS-CoV-2 variants: B.1.1.7, which was first detected in the United Kingdom; B.1.351, originally found in the Republic of South Africa; and B.1.1.248, first seen in Brazil. Each variant has mutations throughout the virus, and, in particular, in the region of the virus’ spike protein that it uses to attach to and enter cells. Mutations in this spike protein region could make it less recognizable to T cells and neutralizing antibodies, which are made by the immune system’s B cells following infection or vaccination. Although details about the exact levels and composition of antibody and T-cell responses needed to achieve immunity to SARS-CoV-2 are still unknown, scientists assume that strong and broad responses from both antibodies and T cells are required to mount an effective immune response.

CD8+ T cells limit infection by recognizing parts of the virus protein presented on the surface of infected cells and killing those cells. In their study of recovered COVID-19 patients, the researchers determined that SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T-cell responses remained largely intact and could recognize virtually all mutations in the variants studied. While larger studies are needed, the researchers note that their findings suggest that the T cell response in convalescent individuals, and most likely in vaccinees, are largely not affected by the mutations found in these three variants, and should offer protection against emerging variants. Optimal immunity to SARS-Cov-2 likely requires strong multivalent T-cell responses in addition to neutralizing antibodies and other responses to protect against current SARS-CoV-2 strains and emerging variants, the authors indicate. They stress the importance of monitoring the breadth, magnitude and durability of the anti-SARS-CoV-2 T-cell responses in recovered and vaccinated individuals as part of any assessment to determine if booster vaccinations are needed.

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Coincidentally, also from March 31 2021.

A comment: “Why spike protein containing or mRNA transcription to self-produce the spike protein (S-protein) is likely to increase blood clotting and inflammation, especially in at-risk individuals: The SARS-CoV2 (SARS2) spike protein is biologically active.”

Covid S Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE 2 (AHA)

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2024. Watch him.

Florida Gov. DeSantis Suspends All Local Coronavirus Emergency Orders (JTN)

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Monday suspended local coronavirus emergency orders via an executive order. The Sunshine State Republican also signed a bill approved by the Florida legislature which will give the governor the power to invalidate local emergency orders. The bill is effective July 1 and the governor signed the executive order effective July 1st that will invalidate local emergency coronavirus orders. “The bill ensures that neither the state nor local governments can close business or keep kids out of in-person instruction unless they satisfy demanding and continuous justifications,” DeSantis said.


“It also says that any local emergency order, excluding hurricane emergencies, are capped at seven-day increments and may only be extended to a maximum duration of 42 days. And most importantly, as governor I’ll have the authority to invalidate a local emergency order if it unnecessarily restricts individual rights or liberties,” the governor said. Prior to signing the documents DeSantis explained that he would “sign the bill, it’s effective July 1st. I’ll also sign an executive order pursuant to that bill invalidating all remaining local emergency COVID orders effective on July 1st. But then to bridge the gap between then and now I am gonna suspend under my executive power the local emergency orders as it relates to COVID. I think that’s the evidence-based thing to do.”

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Context: MI6: Russia, China, Taliban.

‘Far More Likely’ Coronavirus Came From Lab, Ex-MI6 Chief (LBC)

Coronavirus was more likely to have escaped from a lab than to have come from an animal, the former head of MI6 has told LBC. Sir Richard Dearlove said aspects of the virus “point in the direction of it being somewhat tailored” though he warned this may never be proven. The former “C” of the Secret Intelligence Service – equivalent to “M” in James Bond – also told LBC’s Tom Swarbrick that more information on the coronavirus’ origin will soon come out. Some have theorised the coronavirus could have escaped from the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Work to establish the origin of the virus is ongoing. Sir Richard, who headed up the spy agency between 1999 and 2004, told Tom the World Health Organisation’s report, which said a lab leak was highly unlikely but further work was needed, was a “farcical investigation”.

While he admitted “it’s possible” the virus jumped to humans from nature, Sir Richard said: “But the fact that… it’s far more likely, if you’re a scientist, that it was put together. “All right, put it like this… It’s a natural virus that’s been, as it were, mucked around with and the characteristics of things like the spike protein, which make it so highly infectious, also point in the direction of it being somewhat tailored.” He alleged that Chinese influence was hindering the publication of scientific articles on the matter. “I honestly don’t think that this issue can be resolved one way or another,” he continued. “I think there’s a balance of probability. Obviously, if it cannot be proven, and I don’t think it can, because the evidence that could have proved it one way or another has been destroyed, because of the extent of the Chinese clean up.

“Okay, so you can’t prove it’s zoonotic. You can’t prove it’s a lab escapee. What I’m saying is there’s a balance of probability.” He expects forthcoming books to further outline the argument for coronavirus’ lab origin. Sir Richard described China as a more “acute” threat, though he added that Russia presents the most immediate challenge. He also said the UK should commit to training the security forces in Afghanistan for another two decades, after President Joe Biden announced the Americans would leave ahead of the September 11 20-year anniversary. It is a “mistake” to leave and the UK had become safer by deposing the old Taliban regime, he argued. “It could be (another 20 year stay),” Sir Richard said.

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“The United Nations and the highest levels of governments must take direct, even confrontational, approaches with Russia, and move to dismantle anti-vaccine groups in the United States.”

The Criminalization of Dissent (CJ Hopkins)

Here’s California State Senator Richard Pan, author of an op-ed in the Washington Post: “Anti-vax extremism is akin to domestic terrorism,” quoted in the Los Angeles Times: “These extremists have not yet been held accountable, so they continue to escalate violence against the body public … We must now summon the political will to demand that domestic terrorists face consequences for their words and actions. Our democracy and our lives depend on it … They’ve been building alliances with white supremacists, conspiracy theorists and [others] on the far right …” And here’s Peter Hotez in Nature magazine:

“The United Nations and the highest levels of governments must take direct, even confrontational, approaches with Russia, and move to dismantle anti-vaccine groups in the United States. Efforts must expand into the realm of cyber security, law enforcement, public education and international relations. A high-level inter-agency task force reporting to the UN secretary-general could assess the full impact of anti-vaccine aggression, and propose tough, balanced measures. The task force should include experts who have tackled complex global threats such as terrorism, cyber attacks and nuclear armament, because anti-science is now approaching similar levels of peril. It is becoming increasingly clear that advancing immunization requires a counter-offensive.”

We’ll be hearing a lot more rhetoric like this as this new, more totalitarian structure of global capitalism gradually develops. Probably a good idea to listen carefully, and assume they mean exactly what they say.

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“..the FBI was in possession of Hunter’s laptop from at least one month prior to the commencement of impeachment proceedings in December of 2019. And nobody was informed about that… not least the president’s lawyer?”

Biden Family Justice (Kunstler)

The campaign of false witness against US citizens went into overdrive when Donald Trump strutted onto the scene and “seventeen agencies of the Intel Community” conspired with The New York Times and other news media to manufacture the RussiaGate hoax. No top official across the boards has been taken to law for the stupendous cavalcade of false accusations and deceitful investigations associated with that venture in sedition, and the nation is still waiting for the apparition known as Special Counsel John Durham to make a peep. In fact, since 2017 much of the publicly-reported activity around the DOJ and FBI has demonstrated only their attempts to suppress their own felonious misdeeds — cover-ups on top of cover-ups.

Now comes the curious case of Rudy Giuliani, whose apartment was raided on a warrant last week by the FBI seeking his computers and cell phones. The probable cause remains murky — something to do with violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) in representing Ukrainian clients in the US? So, the DOJ wants Rudy’s files, emails, and memoranda on that? Of course, Rudy was acting as the President’s lawyer in impeachment No. 1 over a telephone call to Ukraine, and what was that about? Hunter Biden’s grifting activities, his cumulatively receiving millions from the Burisma Company, of which Hunter’s dad was due to receive at least his usual ten percent cut? And concerning which activity, Joe Biden threatened former Ukraine President Poroshenko in withholding US aid, unless an investigation into Hunter’s Burisma grift was dropped.

It might be helpful to the current occupant of the Oval Office to know what kind of evidence Rudy has acquired on all that and more over the years — yes? But then, there’s plenty of evidence about it and much much much more on Hunter’s wayward laptop. Perhaps hundreds of millions in wide-ranging grifts beyond lowly Ukraine all the way to China, where to this day Hunter retains active and substantial financial connections through his Skaneateles LLC financial company. And it has become known that the FBI was in possession of Hunter’s laptop from at least one month prior to the commencement of impeachment proceedings in December of 2019. And nobody was informed about that… not least the president’s lawyer?

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Majority of trade between Russia and China is in euros these days.

Moscow Has Plan To Ditch US Dollar & Axe Dependency On West (Gavin)

The characteristically blunt Zakharova told RT over the weekend that new economic barriers were “having a complex negative impact on both Russian and Western economies.” According to her, the price of playing out hostilities through the financial markets is high, and “estimates of the damage vary, but are well within the hundreds of billions of dollars.” “Unfortunately,” the diplomatic spokeswoman said, “the reality of our time has been the increased use of politically motivated unilateral measures by some Western states, mainly the US. We see the sanctions against Russia more and more as a ‘gesture of desperation’ due to the inability of elites to accept the new realities, abandon their collective groupthink, and recognize Russia’s right to determine its own development path and build relations with its partners.”

One reason behind this, she claimed, is that Washington and its allies “seem to find it difficult to accept the obvious successes of the Russian economy, the increase in its international competitiveness and the expansion of the presence of quality Russian goods and services on world markets.” While the ruble has been hit hard by falling oil prices, geopolitical uncertainty, and the global recession that has accompanied the Covid-19 pandemic, the country appears more resilient than most of its contemporaries. While a number of other European nations are still languishing in lockdowns, most Russian businesses have been trading consistently with few restrictions since an initial strict quarantine period in the first half of last year.

The governor of Russia’s Central Bank, Elvira Nabiullina, has previously said that “the economy is bouncing back rather steadily” and, “given the current positive trends,” its analysts have maintained their outlook on GDP growth for 2021 at 3 to 4%. Her bullishness comes at a time when the path back to growth appears uncertain for many countries.

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    Franco Fontana Prague 1967   • US To Authorize Pfizer Vaccine For Ages 12-15 Early Next Week (R.) • Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely In The U
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle May 4 2021]

    #74419
    V. Arnold
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    Franco Fontana Prague 1967

    Great point of view; not often seen…

    That’s enough for today; tempus fugit (time fly’s)

    #74420
    Germ
    Participant

    Why would you get a shot if you already had Covid?

    Shit medical advice – that’s why!

    Paralyzed After 2nd COVID Shot:

    #74421
    Germ
    Participant

    “I’m not saying don’t get your vaccine” 🤣🤣🤣

    Oh no.
    I’m just paralyzed!
    Now, hurry and get that poison shot!

    #74422
    Germ
    Participant

    “When variants of SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID-19) emerged in late 2020, concern arose that they might elude protective immune responses generated by prior infection or vaccination, potentially making re-infection more likely or vaccination less effective.”

    “The investigators asked whether CD8+ T cells in the blood of recovered COVID-19 patients, infected with the initial virus, could still recognize three SARS-CoV-2 variants: B.1.1.7, which was first detected in the United Kingdom; B.1.351, originally found in the Republic of South Africa; and B.1.1.248, first seen in Brazil.”

    “In their study of recovered COVID-19 patients, the researchers determined that SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T-cell responses remained largely intact and could recognize virtually all mutations in the variants studied.”

    https://www.technologynetworks.com/immunology/news/sars-cov-2-variants-still-recognized-by-t-cells-347278

    https://academic.oup.com/ofid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/ofid/ofab143/6189113

    #74423
    Germ
    Participant

    Well, well, well,
    Wouldn’t you know it!

    “It’s a brand new type of test, just approved by the FDA for emergency use, that seems to more accurately track whether someone has previously been infected with COVID-19.

    ” …the FDA approved the T-Detect COVID test, a brand new technology developed by the company Adaptive Biotechnologies in a partnership with Microsoft.”

    https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2021/03/15/newly-approved-t-cell-test-is-a-more-accurate-way-to-tell-if-youve-had-covid-19-experts-say/

    We are being played like violins!

    #74424
    Germ
    Participant

    This is what’s coming.
    A T-cell test to see if you have immunity.

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    #74427
    Dr. D
    Participant

    I may be the wrong person to say it, but solutions aren’t coming from here or in opinions. Those, like the news, are just to fill the time and create discussion.

    Solutions come from creating an alternative. One that works better and cheaper than the existing. While this is hard, the powers have made it easy for us. Every man who isn’t watching Woke sports is now doing something real and useful. Every time they annoy us into not drinking Coke, we might try something non-deadly. When half the banking money is stolen profiteering, we move to cryptos. When they ban all “unclean”, the unclean become their own independent nation, allied with themselves at last.
    But one reason I don’t promote a lot of solutions is that problems are general but solutions are specific. Your age, location, income, influence, personality.

    Biden-Carter. They’re not wearing masks, shouldn’t he be arrested for murder? I mean, that’s what they’d do to me.

    “the vaccine had been found to be safe, effective and produced robust antibody responses in 12- to 15-year-olds”

    This is false. They have no data and no idea whether it’s safe even a year from now. 10 years of mRNA studies showed it’s pointedly UNsafe.

    But it’s “The Guardian”, so “It’s False, Guaranteed!” (This message has been approved and paid for by MI6)

    “Reaching ‘Herd Immunity’ Is Unlikely in the US, Experts Now Believe (NYT)”

    Can they propose a single logic, scientific reason for this? (A: No) EVERY disease, EVER, in ALL history, EVER, has reached herd immunity. That’s why the human race exists.

    But it’s “The New York Times”, so “It’s False, Guaranteed!” (This message has been approved and paid for by MI6)

    “The virus is unlikely to go away,”

    Yes, true. And we will become immune or die, just like the last 100,000 years. I mean, unless you propose suspending physics in your new Utopia. (Spoiler: they are, and do)

    Funny thing we realized on the way to the funeral parlor to bury our friends”

    …Was that it is claimed in India that it’s the people who WERE vaccinated that died. Like KY nursing homes. And like all the mRNA tests to date, which is why it was never approved. mRNA works, just as it’s working now, ¡¡BUT!! Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuutttttttttttt, when they were subsequently exposed to the disease they were vaccinating against, their body overreacted and they did WORSE, killing many. And it’s not hard to see why. In natural immunity, your body identifies and mobilizes from a single point in a long game of cellular “telephone”. In mRNA test subjects, every cell mobilizes instantly, without time. They then over-react and have a cytokine storm, one of the major killers.

    …And this is aside from the spike protein being itself very deadly, which you’re forcing the body to produce and send to blood clots around the body. Like the tiny vessels in the brain. Oh and then out the body to your grandma. So they’re seeing EXACTLY what they saw in the 10 years of failed studies, as well as the other added dangers. Wot a shock! Who knew when you ran the same experiment in Science, you get the same results??? Nobody ever tried repeating experiments before (according to Lancet, NEJM, and other science papers. Some 80% of all “Science” was unrepeatable, and some known fraction of that was discovered as open fabrication. So proud.)

    John Hopkins is *Done*. Hahahahahahahaaha!!! Just kidding. Nobody cares. They can kill another million and you’ll still defend them to the death and sacrifice your children (via tuition and terrible, terrible schooling) to them.

    “England To Pilot Daily Covid Tests As Way To Avoid Self-isolation (G.)”

    This is why they wanted centralized, computer medical records. Then Julian Assange and Glen Greenwald accidentally come back “positive”, every day of the rest of their lives. And Congressman Greene if the election goes wrong. Awwww. Tut tut my love.

    DeSantis: Hey, are the least locked down locations also the safest by far? Discuss.

    Does that go for guns too? Discuss.

    “‘Far More Likely’ Coronavirus Came From Lab, Ex-MI6 Chief (LBC)”
    9 out of 10 experts agree. That leaves Kyle from Facebook censorship group and Kamala’s paid-for bot army. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bP7HAyQXwoY

    Don’t worry: experts have facts and write them down. That’s why you can be sure no one will read them. After Biden’s laptop the safest place for facts in the West is on a written, official document. You know, like CDC research. Then you know it will never, ever be read.

    “These extremists have not yet been held accountable, so they continue to escalate violence against the body public …”

    Words are violence. But luckily, Violence is NOT violence. A ≠ A. See how that works? Burn down all the (black) cities you want!! And I know, you’re going to kill me and everyone I know, you’ve been saying it (and doing it) for decades, blah blah blah.

    “Moscow Has Plan to Ditch US Dollar & Axe Dependency on West (Gavin)”

    We have heard from traders that the US$ is at 60% worldwide. (that seems high to me) So they are finally capable of going around the U.S. Problem, ironically, demonstrating #OppositeLand, is that if any nation created a decent, non-horrible, non-thieving currency, it would instantly rise so fast it would destroy all production from any nation associated with it. Like Switzerland, but without their generations of coping measures.

    Anyhoo, it’s not just Russia. Doge is superior to the US$.

    Adaptive Biotechnologies in a partnership with Microsoft.””

    I always trust Microsoft on viruses. When have they ever let anything bad happen?

    Chop wood, carry water. You will be soon anyway, when the communists take over. And losing a lot of weight.

    https://babylonbee.com/news/dems-propose-fighting-obesity-by-switching-to-communism

    It works! 300 million people can’t be wrong!

    #74428
    Basseterre Kitona
    Participant

    A test to see if you have immunity? But isn’t that at the heart of this whole scam, i.e., a healthy person’s immunity system might reject the virus via other defenses (b-cells, t-cells, skin, nose hair, etc.) before the virus even gains enough foothold to require the production of anti-bodies.

    Common sense dictates that a normal healthy person is at minimal risk even when expose to the virus hence the impressive 80% of people that did not become sick on the Diamond Princess.

    But instead of common sense, the whole world seems to be afflicted by that horrible childhood disease called cooties. You remember that one? The uncool dorky kid always had cooties and heaven forbid if he touched you because then you had it too. It was an invisible, merciless death wish of a disease that could only be cured by your mother talking some sense into you when she exposed the other kids as either pranksters or frauds.

    #74429
    madamski
    Participant

    Before heading off to other things, I’ll note here that the puppet masters’ grand scheme fails when it comes to entities like Russia, which is slated to soon become the new Leader of the Free World. When dealing with a genuinely proactive power structure such as Putin’s Russia, the reactinary numbskull inbred entitlementi of the Euromerican bankster elites fall on their sword.

    ^&*

    @ Dr. D

    “I may be the wrong person to say it, but solutions aren’t coming from here or in opinions. Those, like the news, are just to fill the time and create discussion.

    Solutions come from creating an alternative. One that works better and cheaper than the existing. While this is hard, the powers have made it easy for us. Every man who isn’t watching Woke sports is now doing something real and useful. Every time they annoy us into not drinking Coke, we might try something non-deadly. When half the banking money is stolen profiteering, we move to cryptos. When they ban all “unclean”, the unclean become their own independent nation, allied with themselves at last.”

    Agreed except for the word “just” in the second sentence. Positively useful info/ideas do appear here at TAE and places like it.

    “But one reason I don’t promote a lot of solutions is that problems are general but solutions are specific. Your age, location, income, influence, personality.”

    Disagree. Problems are also specific. Valid general principles are the basis of specific solutions to specific problems caused by general trends.

    #74430

    It infuriates me that the vaccine is considered a factor in “getting rid” of the virus. It’s the biggest reminder of how illogical the vast majority really are. [is?]
    “Anti-vaccine aggression” my eye.
    When will the various governors begin to see there may be a devastating health crisis- a real one- coming to their states?

    Cooties, cooties everywhere-
    All people harbor dangers!
    We used to be great friends but now
    We may as well be strangers.
    (From 1 Aug 2020)

    Something made up for the Babylon Bee: “Satellites Determine Actual Population of the World Estimated to be 5 Billion”
    “Phantom folks make up much of the world’s population. Voter rolls, financial aid, and bragging rights may have pushed the number of people in the world to 7.8 billion, experts say. ‘These people don’t actual exist,’ Prof. Norm Tritiak said in an interview with the Babylon Bee.

    #74431
    Polder Dweller
    Participant

    Clotting and Covid Vaccine “Science”

    Simply put: there is overwhelming evidence that the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein [that is also synthetically produced by the Covid vaccines] is a central part of the mechanisms of morbidity and mortality of SARS-CoV-2, and therefore is also a risk of the vaccine. In regard to clotting, that risk is greater if you receive a vaccine.

    The data clearly demonstrate that the last thing you would ever want to do, is make a vaccine that produces a spike protein. As the literature clearly showed it would cause significant damage including brain clots and death. And that literature, for the most part was available before the release of Covid vaccines to the public.

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/clotting-and-covid-science

    #74432
    zerosum
    Participant

    “Pandemic Monkeys” – Individuals, will see what they want to see. Hear what they want to hear. Believe what they want to believe.

    “super-spreaders”

    “herd immunity”

    “Big Lie”

    #74433
    Germ
    Participant
    #74435
    zerosum
    Participant

    Their accountants and lawyers know how to minimize the tax implications on 150 billions
    https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/here-everything-we-know-about-how-bill-and-melinda-plan-divide-their-150-billion-fortune

    #74436
    Maxwell Quest
    Participant

    I took the liberty of including a couple of [clarifications] that were inadvertently lost in the Russian to English translation:

    “Unfortunately,” the diplomatic spokeswoman said, “the reality of our time has been the increased use of politically motivated unilateral measures by some Western states, mainly the US. We see the sanctions against Russia more and more as a ‘gesture of desperation’ due to the inability of elites [greedy oligarchic psychopaths] to accept the new realities, abandon their collective groupthink [total global hegemony], and recognize Russia’s right to determine its own development path and build relations with its partners.” – Maria Zakharova

    #74437
    zerosum
    Participant

    http://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/
    SPECIAL REPORT
    The story of mRNA: How a once-dismissed idea became a leading technology in the Covid vaccine race
    By Damian Garde — STAT and Jonathan Saltzman — Boston Globe Nov. 10, 2020

    #74438
    madamski
    Participant

    @ my parents said know

    “It infuriates me that the vaccine is considered a factor in “getting rid” of the virus. It’s the biggest reminder of how illogical the vast majority really are. [is?]”

    Not illogical, imo, just weakly logical. Trained to get simple linear answers to simple linear questions. They’re highly logical in what they do: submit to authority and do what it tells them to.

    #74439
    madamski
    Participant

    We Do What We’re Told… until we don’t.

    #74440
    Noirette
    Participant

    Some Extra Links. All worth a look, imho.

    *MSM* (and such articles aare becoming more frequent as far as I can tell), the Standard, UK:

    More than 500 people admitted to hospital with coronavirus after getting vaccinated

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/covid-vaccine-uk-500-admitted-hospital-b932792.html

    So-called ‘opposition’ or ‘dissident’ MSM on the Intertubes, UK.

    A Vaxxing Question, from Off Guardian.

    A Vaxxing Question

    “Science” …:

    SARS-CoV-2-derived peptides define heterologous and COVID-19-induced T cell recognition

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-020-00808-x.pdf

    A Cross-Country Analysis of the Determinants of Covid-19 Fatalities

    CESifo Working Paper No. 902

    https://www.cesifo.org/en/publikationen/2021/working-paper/cross-country-analysis-determinants-covid-19-fatalities

    #74441
    a kullervo
    Participant

    “A man should hear a little music, read a little poetry, and see a fine picture every day of his life, in order that worldly cares may not obliterate the sense of the beautiful which God has implanted in the human soul.” (Johann Wolfgang von Goethe)

    Too bad God also implanted in some souls the penchant for sadism or for masochism.

    “The science says it’s not harmless; it is in fact pathogenic. The CDC is lying and as a result people are dying.” (Denninger)

    We all die:
    From the disease, from the cure – ultimately from life itself,- ideally under some self-construed notion of dignity.

    So sad to see the “you die” moronic “reasoning” being used by the pro-vaxxers and anti-vaxxers alike; we all go through some sort of cycle in The Unavoidable – nothing you can do but to play your part in the cosmic interplay.

    Anabolism – Catabolism – Limit

    (May those who believe it can be overcome never lose their hopes & dreams.)

    #74442
    madamski
    Participant

    Shared merely for the weirdness of it all:

    Dangerous Faggot

    #74443
    Noirette
    Participant

    Arte:

    Provence and the Black Death.

    “In the Vaucluse mountains, a long dry stone wall runs the length of the landscape. This is a wall erected against an invisible enemy: the plague. In the 18th century, a massive outbreak wiped out a third of the population of Marseille, and today, the wall still stands as a monument to the many victims of that epidemic.”

    Here French with eng subs. 14 mins.

    https://www.arte.tv/en/videos/102870-003-A/provence-and-the-black-death/

    #74444
    Topcat
    Participant

    I thought it was Fauci as Faust

    I was wrong.

    It’s Fauci as Mengele

    Mengele

    #74445
    Topcat
    Participant

    Bill ‘Judas Goat’ Gates is getting a divorce.

    I wonder what he’ll hookup with next.

    I guess to be technologically singular, you have to be divorce.

    Also divorced from sanity, reason, decency, compassion, empathic and Reality.

    Judas Goat Gates of Hell

    #74446
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Ah yes, Milo Yiannopolous, author of the most pathetic and desperate attempt to stay relevant I think I have ever witnessed.

    #74447
    Topcat
    Participant

    Karl Denninger’s piece on accountability for the mass murderers of ten of thousands like Fauci, fails to factor in the pure impotence of the court system, starting with gutless utter corrupt judges.

    There won’t be any lawsuits allowed, the judges, nationwide, will simple refuse, en mass, to hear the cases.

    Just like the election fraud. They’ll just give universal blanket protection to anyone involved in any capacity with implementing masks, lockdowns or ‘vaccines’.

    I simply don’t see any recourse in the courts, they’re sick jokes.

    And the lack of legal accountability seems global, not just in the West.

    The Nuremberg Codes are officially a joke folks.

    Those are showers, not gas chambers

    #74448
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    The JTN story on Ron DeSantis motivated me to look at the graph of coronavirus cases for my home state of Wisconsin and see if our brief lockdown period (which started at the end of March of last year, and then the state supreme court nixed it at the end of May of last year) had any effect on daily new cases. There was none that I could see. Like many states, we had our big surge starting on Labor Day weekend and tamping back down at the beginning of March this year. One could speculate that people traveling out of state for the LDW could have brought a lot of new cases into the state, but I am inclined to doubt that, if only because I have no idea how many people normally travel out-of-state for that occasion. (There are plenty of perfectly nice places right here to spend a holiday weekend anyway.)

    The peak of our big surge was during the month of November, and the end of that month was when my best friend from the high-school daze probably got infected, causing him to get sick and miss a month of work and spend four days in the hospital right before Xmas. (It makes me so mad to think he came so close to needing to go on a ventilator and they couldn’t just give him Ivermectin.) So the only conclusion I could draw for Wisconsin from looking at the graph was that the pandemic likely has a strong seasonal effect.

    Right now we seem to be doing alright for a US state, with an average of about 700 new cases a day in a state of six million people. It was ten times that much at the height of the big surge.

    #74449
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    FWIW, the CDC finally updated their numbers for estimated total Covid infections, which amount to 114.6 million, or about 34% of the US population (even after I deducted the official number of Covid fatalities, almost 0.6 million, since they are no longer part of the population). This is for the period from from February 2020–March 2021.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/burden.html

    #74450
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Your current form is in flux from pertinence to obsolescence.

    Many people strive to remain pertinent or, better still, strive to stave off obsolescence.

    Worry not: in due time, what you are will be refitted.

    #74451
    Bill7
    Participant

    Not to be missed, in my opinion:

    Evolving With Big Tech: Facebook’s New Campaign Should Have Free Speech Advocates Nervous

    What’s been normalized by our Corporatist rulers in the last few years just leaves me aghast.

    “Better Living through Corporatist Censorship!”

    yay

    #74452

    From ? via Ivor Cummins via George Mc via Off-G, a bit of interesting research into vaccine passes.
    Quick read.

    #74453
    madamski
    Participant

    I smell lawsuits, myself. Judges will hear them.

    My understanding is that they call this The Judge because judges like them as personal protection.

    When parents of children, and children of elderly parents, realize they’ve been lethally lied to, judges will hear the case. All the hush money in the world won’t give a judge hir life (or that of hes child, spouse, or parent) back.

    #74454
    madamski
    Participant

    The Individual Dance

    Then, many individuals.

    #74455
    John Day
    Participant

    CD8+ T-Cells, we all have them, but they are not all trained to take out cells infected with SARS-CoV-2.
    Anybody who has had any of the other 4 endemic strains of coronavirus in th last 5 years is likely to have cytotoxic (cell-killing) T-Cells that are effective at killing cells that are infected, and producing viruses within them
    That’s why 80% of folks seem to be pretty well immune to getting badly sick with COVID. If it spreads past the primary defenses in the nose and throat, a whole lot of people’s immune systems now what to do with coronaviruses, and do it, and it works pretty well (if they have enough vitamin-D for their immune system to perform normally).

    #74456
    John Day
    Participant

    Oops: “know what to do…”

    #74457
    Rototillerman
    Participant

    The NIH article on T-cell effectiveness against different variants uses a kind of verbal sleight-of-hand to suggest that vaccinees get a boost in T-cell immunity from the mRNA process; I’m not sure that is true. Here is the relevant paragraph:

    CD8+ T cells limit infection by recognizing parts of the virus protein presented on the surface of infected cells and killing those cells. In their study of recovered COVID-19 patients, the researchers determined that SARS-CoV-2-specific CD8+ T-cell responses remained largely intact and could recognize virtually all mutations in the variants studied. While larger studies are needed, the researchers note that their findings suggest that the T cell response in convalescent individuals, and most likely in vaccinees, are largely not affected by the mutations found in these three variants, and should offer protection against emerging variants. Optimal immunity to SARS-Cov-2 likely requires strong multivalent T-cell responses in addition to neutralizing antibodies and other responses to protect against current SARS-CoV-2 strains and emerging variants, the authors indicate. They stress the importance of monitoring the breadth, magnitude and durability of the anti-SARS-CoV-2 T-cell responses in recovered and vaccinated individuals as part of any assessment to determine if booster vaccinations are needed.

    Here’s the thing: all I’ve ever heard about with regard to the vaccines is that they produce antibodies in the blood – period. I believe that this a point that Dr. Bhakdi brought up, but I also know that the T-cell immunity usually arises (primarily arises?) from the T-cells recognizing the waste products of an actual infection. And since the vaccine spike protein is functionally inert as far as replication goes, it doesn’t make sense to me that the mRNA vaccines would provoke the durable, long-lasting, multi-variant T-cell response. We already know from news reports that the cross-reactivity between the vaccines and certain variants is poor.

    #74458
    John Day
    Participant

    I somewhat agree with Dr D. and also Madamski, not necessarily wrong, either way.
    TPTB and their robotic internet miners are bound to watch TAE. They watch all of us, and watch who we communicate with, and communicate what, and when and how, and they graph out nodal systems of communication. A few nodes are often responsible for the great majority of what is communicated in any human network of communication.
    TAE has certainly come under existential threat through defunding Facebook ads.
    If one wants to keep the internt for one’s own purposes, and deny the internet to rival groups, one needs to know which rival-group communication nodes (persons or sites) can be taken out, to do enough damage to the rival network, while doing minimal damaf=ge to te desired functions, like Amazon purchases, for instance.
    If one has longer to play with this, then the attacked nodes can be intermittently crippled, and communications between the upper 2 levels of those nodes can be attacked preferentially, impairing the upper level coordination.
    So in this case, the ad revenues of TAE can be directly taken out, and some of us, who have raised our heads out of the trenches, can have our own emails to others made to go through part of the time, especially if they are communicating a lot, also.
    With modern AI they can dial-in-the-octane, like you may recall doing with Sunoco 260 gas pumps, where you could choose just about any amount of good-old-bad-old tetraethyl lead that you wanted to pay for in your 1972 Super Bird.
    So, now I get around to agreeing some with Madamski that we are exchanging useful ideas, and working on them, and we are working out reality in a group problem solving exercise. Look at how sophisticated this group has become at calling out the bullshit we are being showered with, calling it out book-chapter-and-verse like we used to say in bible-school.
    This is a healthy and developing group.
    This is a part of any solution of coming up with ways to do things better.
    Eliminating all of the parasitic shite, by calling it out every time you see it, and identifying the payoffs the parasites get, and the lies they tell to manipulate us, to get the payoffs, are all important aspects of understanding how things are wrong.
    Yeah, Dr D. that’s not laying out a new right way, but we have to co-create new right ways going forward.
    We ARE the F..king mass-parallel-processor-of-univerdsal-reality-becoming.
    And we are doing better-enough to be calling naked-naked-naked out loud right now.
    Some of us are working on beta testing cutting-edge scientific game-changers like vegetable gardens, but not everybody can do that…
    Ride a bike; same thing…
    Uh, I forgot where I was agreeing and disagreeing, and with whom, in specific, but I always mean well.
    🙂

    #74459
    John Day
    Participant

    More on those cytotoxic T-Cells CD8+
    http://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/cells/cd8-t-cells#:~:text=CD8%2B%20(cytotoxic)%20T%20cells%2C,CD8%CE%B1%20and%20one%20CD8%CE%B2%20chain.

    #74460
    WES
    Participant

    I see they are still quierly auditing the Phoenix votes.
    The msm are all creating false hit pieces as expected.

    Up here in the police state of Ontario we are not even allowed to go boating!
    We walked over to open our island cottage.
    Cooked a turkey to celebrate our lack of freedom.

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