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Roy Lichtenstein Crying girl 1963

 

They Denied A Lab Leak At Wuhan. They Are Wrong About Other Things (Pfeiffer)
Novavax CEO: Covid-19 Booster To Be ‘Biggest Market’ In US (Fox)
A Quarter Of Parents Won’t Let Their Children Get Covid-19 Vaccine (F.)
Germany’s CureVac Vaccine Shows Only 47% Effect Against Covid-19 (RT)
Canada’s Treatment Of Religious Communities: Using Covid To Bully (RT)
Rand Paul Demands Exclusion Of Wuhan Lab Funders From Investigations (ZH)
Vladimir Putin Quotes Tolstoy As He Reveals His Dark Philosophy On Life (DM)
Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions (Rev.)
Is “Running Hot” Inflation Wise and Humane? (RIA)
Fed Says Might Need To Raise Interest Rates Sooner Than Expected (DM)

 

 

Ano Veli Samuel Turtiainen. Listen as he speaks in Finnish Parliament
https://twitter.com/i/status/1405096937813016576

 

 

IN-SA-NI-TY

 

 

“The choice was always vaccines OR treatment. Not both.”

“Viewed in the kindest possible way, that delay, that lost year, wasn’t so much intentional as institutionalized.. “

They Denied A Lab Leak At Wuhan. They Are Wrong About Other Things (Pfeiffer)

From the start, there was no room for both vaccines and treatments under the statute that has allowed millions of Americans to be vaccinated with an unlicensed, largely unstudied substance. The key mechanism on which this turned was the vaccine’s “Emergency Use Authorization,” which can be granted by the FDA only if there is “no adequate, approved, and available alternative to the product for diagnosing, preventing or treating” a disease. But even as the vaccine was minimally tested and maximally hyped, there was an alternative. Ivermectin. “It’s the most effective antiviral agent we have,” Dr. Paul E. Marik, co-founder of Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance, said in a conversation for this article. “If the WHO was to say that or the NIH — were they to approve ivermectin — the EUA for all the vaccines would become invalid.”

Ivermectin, said FLCCC president Dr. Pierre Kory, “would kneecap the entire global vaccine policy around the world.” The choice was always vaccines OR treatment. Not both. Operation Warp Speed spent three times as much — $18 billion — to develop a vaccine as it did to develop a treatment. Moreover, money for therapeutics went largely toward costly new drugs, some of which failed and others still in development. The media did not question the oversight of existing drugs and emerging research. Instead, it became an arm of government in a shared single fixed goal: Vaccinate quickly and at any expense. America’s COVID Czar Anthony Fauci predicted in July of 2020 that an antiviral would be available by that fall.

Then, last December he said his “highest priority” was a quick-acting COVID drug. In reality, NIH waited until April 29, 2021 to announce a large study of safety-tested, FDA-approved drugs. That was roughly 400 days – and nearly 600,000 U.S. deaths — into the pandemic. Forget a few dozen studies – most from other countries — that universally agreed on ivermectin’s efficacy. Forget a peer-reviewed meta-analysis that showed 83 percent fewer deaths. Forget the experiences of hundreds of real treating doctors in the U.S. and around the world.

Viewed in the kindest possible way, that delay, that lost year, wasn’t so much intentional as institutionalized. U.S. treatments are driven by the integral and outsized influence of pharmaceutical money on the regulatory process, and no one was putting up $20 million for what are considered, questionably, the “gold-standard” of evidence-based medicine: randomized control trials. Dr. Robert Malone, a vaccine researcher and inventor of mRNA technology, went bankrupt trying to repurpose old antiviral drugs to treat the Zika virus in the 2010s. “The investment community had zero interest because there’s no way to make a buck,” he said in a must-see podcast on pandemic missteps. “The financial incentives around drug repurposing are such that it doesn’t get done.”

Ivermectin is the penicillin of COVID, particularly when combined with other generics like fluvoxamine and the vilified but effective hydroxychloroquine. Now, however, as at the start of COVID, newly infected patients are still denied treatment and turned back into the community, often to infect others. As Malone put it, “We’re sending people home and telling them not to come back until your lips are blue.” “Were this a hundred years ago,” a Pennsylvania opthamologist named Neil Chasin told me months ago, “and Ivermectin was available, it would be used everywhere.”

See the script

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“The boosting story is going to be around for many years to come.”

Novavax CEO: Covid-19 Booster To Be ‘Biggest Market’ In US (Fox)

Novavax’s CEO said he believes boosters will be the company’s “biggest market” in the U.S. once it receives regulatory approval for its COVID-19 vaccine. “That’ll be probably our biggest market in the U.S. for instance, late this year or next year we expect that it’ll have all the great characteristics of a good boost,” said CEO Stanley Erck during an appearance on FOX Business’ “Varney & Company” hours after the biotech company announced that its vaccine was found to be over 90% effective in a clinical trial. Erck noted that the timing of the trial saw nearly all infections detected stem from variants, which helped prove effective against strains currently gaining ground in the U.S. and elsewhere including the Alpha and Delta types.


“The vaccine works, and as they said 93% if you look at just the variants, the vaccine was 93% effective and that’s just terrific I think,” he said. Shares rose on the developments while other vaccine makers were mixed. Following approval, Erck said the company will likely focus on supplying countries outside of the U.S., including fulfilling agreements already made with Canada, Australia, and another to send 1.1 billion doses to COVAX, the COVID-19 Vaccines Global Access program. Erck added that the company is already involved in a comparative mix and match trial in the U.K. The trial is evaluating safety and effectiveness of vaccine regimens that may include two doses of a mRNA jab and later involve a boost made by a different company. “We expect our vaccine to show the most benign side effects and I think we’re going to look good there,” he said. “The boosting story is going to be around for many years to come.”

Booster shots

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“26%. That’s the percentage of Americans ages 12-15 who have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine..”

A Quarter Of Parents Won’t Let Their Children Get Covid-19 Vaccine (F.)

As vaccine hesitancy continues to be an issue, approximately one in four parents say they do not intend to get their child vaccinated against Covid-19, a Harris poll finds—and more than 10% intend to only have their child receive one dose, which may not be enough to protect against the Delta variant now taking hold in the U.S. The poll, conducted June 11-13 among 2,015 U.S. adults, found the vast majority of parents will have their children fully vaccinated against Covid-19, including 62% of those with children under age 12, who are not eligible yet for the vaccine, and 54% of those ages 12 and older, with a further 9% saying their children are already vaccinated. The poll found 27% of parents of children under 12 and 25% of parents of older children say they will not get their children vaccinated.

Their reasons include wanting to wait for more research on vaccines’ safety and effectiveness in children, not thinking Covid-19 is serious enough in children to warrant vaccination and general anti-vaccine sentiment. A further 11% of parents of children under 12 and 12% of parents of children 12 and up say they will only have their children receive one of the two recommended doses of the Covid-19 vaccine. One vaccine dose has been shown to be far less effective against the Delta variant first identified in India—which could soon become the dominant strain in the U.S.—with Public Health England reporting one dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine provides only 36% protection against symptomatic disease.

[..] 26%. That’s the percentage of Americans ages 12-15 who have received at least one dose of the Covid-19 vaccine, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, along with 40% of 16- to 17-year-olds, who became eligible for the shot sooner. Only 12.8% of 12- to 15-year-olds and 29.6% of 16- to 17-year-olds are fully vaccinated.

Anti-vaxxer

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More mRNA.

Germany’s CureVac Vaccine Shows Only 47% Effect Against Covid-19 (RT)

Praised recently as “hope for the unvaccinated world,” a Covid-19 vaccine developed by Germany’s CureVac is only 47% effective against the coronavirus. As its stock collapsed, the company blamed new virus variants. Preliminary results from second and third-phase trials on 40,000 subjects in 10 countries of Europe and Latin America show that CureVac’s jab “did not meet pre-specified statistical success criteria,” the company announced on Wednesday. “In the unprecedented context of at least 13 variants circulating within the study population subset assessed at this interim analysis, CVnCoV demonstrated an interim vaccine efficacy of 47% against [Covid]-19 disease of any severity,” the Tubingen-based company said.

“Initial analyses suggest age and strain dependent efficacy,” the company added, as its stock collapsed on the news of failure. “While we were hoping for a stronger interim outcome, we recognize that demonstrating high efficacy in this unprecedented broad diversity of variants is challenging,” said CureVac CEO Dr. Franz-Werner Haas, adding that “the overall vaccine efficacy may change” as they continue towards the final analysis. The interim analysis assessed 134 cases of Covid-19 occurring at least two weeks after the second dose was administered, of which 124 were successfully sequenced to identify variants. Only one case was due to the original virus, CureVac said. Preliminary results also showed efficacy in younger participants, but not people older than 60; the elderly are the most at-risk group for Covid-19. CureVac said it has reported the results to the European Medicines Agency.


The failure of the trial is a bitter pill for CureVac, founded by one of the German pioneers of mRNA vaccine technology, which is currently used in the US-developed Pfizer and Moderna jabs. As late as May, its vaccine was praised by the New York Times as the jab that could “bring hope to the unvaccinated world.” Unlike the Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, the CureVac jab remains stable at refrigerator temperatures – just like the Russian-developed Sputnik V – which would have made it attractive to swathes of Africa, Asia, and Latin America that lack deep freeze facilities. It can even sit at room temperature for 24 hours without spoiling.

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“Recently, a Canadian police force was using a helicopter to hunt down religious services that are forced to be held in secret.”

Canada’s Treatment Of Religious Communities: Using Covid To Bully (RT)

More and more religious services have been cracked down on by Canadian government officials. Police choppers have tracked down services that are forced to hide, while the premiers enjoy lavish dinners. This is an abuse of power. Back in April, I wrote about Canada beginning to crack down on religious services. During that time, a pastor of Polish descent had said the country was turning into World War II Germany, branding police who raided his church ‘gestapo’. Though plainly the nation has not reached those Hitlerian extremes yet, Canada’s actions against religious gatherings continue to be concerning. Recently, a Canadian police force was using a helicopter to hunt down religious services that are forced to be held in secret. After this, several arrests were made, despite Canadian law stating it will protect the right for religious gathering and practice.


Crackdowns on both Jewish and Christian religious gatherings, and the virtual canceling of Ramadan for Muslims, have happened all over Canada, and property seizures on top of these measures are not uncommon. All of this is done on the premise of stopping the spread of Covid-19, but the nation has already begun its vaccine rollout. In fact, Canada has had the vaccine since April, yet still is not allowing religious individuals to go back to their normal lives. But as the faithful continue to be denied the right to practice freely, Canadian government officials are meeting up and throwing a posh dinner at the Alberta Sky Palace, breaking the same rules that they are claiming these religious gatherings violate. There were no arrests made, and all that was given to the public was an empty apology.

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Seems obvious.

Rand Paul Demands Exclusion Of Wuhan Lab Funders From Investigations (ZH)

Senator Rand Paul urged Wednesday that those involved in funding the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s coronavirus ‘gain of function’ research cannot be allowed to be a part of investigations again. Appearing on Fox News, Paul said “Here’s the problem. The WHO investigated this the first time, we suggested three people to send to China. They rejected all three and they accepted a guy named Peter Daszak who was the one that funded the lab.” The Senator continued “So you can’t have the people—like Anthony Fauci or Peter Daszak—who are part of the funding mechanism to send these funds to Wuhan lab. You can’t have them investigating themselves.”

“They have a definite conflict of interest because if this pandemic started in a lab that the U.S. was funding, the people advocating for the funding obviously will have culpability—at least moral culpability,” Paul asserted. Referring to the World Health organisation’s 3 hour visit to the Wuhan lab in February, Paul stated “The WHO did a terrible job the first time. There needs to be an investigation but I’ve been advocating for a congressional investigation.” Paul was one of five GOP Senators to put his name to a letter made public this week demanding the unreacted release of “all records” from Fauci, his deputy Hugh Auchincloss, NIH Director Francis Collins and several other officials “referring or relating to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, COVID-19, coronavirus, EcoHealth Alliance, or Dr. Baric’s 2015 coronavirus study.”

The Senators noted that “release of approximately 4,000 pages of NIH email communications and other documents from early 2020 has raised serious questions about NIH’s handling of COVID-19.” “These documents, though heavily redacted, have shed new light on NIH’s awareness of the virus’ origins in the early stages of the COVID19 pandemic,” the senators noted in the letter to HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra and NIH Director Collins. The letter continues, “It is unclear the extent to which NIH officials, including Dr. Fauci, considered the possibility that the virus originated in a laboratory and what, if any, actions they took to seriously investigate this possibility.”

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‘There is no happiness in life, only a mirage of it on the horizon, so cherish that.’

Vladimir Putin Quotes Tolstoy As He Reveals His Dark Philosophy On Life (DM)

Vladimir Putin channelled his inner Bond villain as he made a dark comment after meeting with President Joe Biden in Geneva on Wednesday. The Russian leader was asked if there was a growing trust and happiness between him and the US president after their meeting. The strongman typically responded: ‘There is no happiness in life, only a mirage of it on the horizon, so cherish that.’ The response, translated to Western reporters at the summit, is attributed to the classic Russian novelist Leo Tolstoy, who is said to have remarked it to fellow writer Ivan Bunin. Bunin, then 23, said he met Tolstoy on a frosty night in Moscow in 1894 when the War and Peace author was aged 65. Tolstoy gave words of wisdom to the aspiring novelist but also told him to ‘not expect too much from life’.


Bunin was so enamoured with his idol that he tried to emulate him, visiting sectarian settlements and even illegally distributing Tolstyoan literature. Bunin was later considered a true heir to the realist tradition in Russian literature started by Tolstoy and his contemporary Anton Chekhov. On social media, many said Putin’s remark was typical of his Bond villain image. One remarked it was ‘simultaneously the most Russian and the most Bond villain thing I’ve ever heard a world leader say’. Others compared him to a Marvel villain, saying his comment sounded like it came from the mouth of Thanos.

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The FBI organized 1/6?!

Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions (Rev.)

Of all the questions asked, words spoken, and ink spilled on the so-called “Capitol Siege” of January 6, 2021, none hold the key to the entire event quite like what Sen. Amy Klobuchar asked of Christopher Wray. The Democrat from Minnesota asked the Trump-appointed FBI Director: Did the federal government infiltrate any of the so-called “militia” organizations claimed to be responsible for planning and executing the Capitol Siege? Christopher Wray is able to uncomfortably weasel his way out of answering the question directly, partially because Klobuchar does him the courtesy of not asking him the question directly. Klobuchar instead asks the FBI director if he wishes he had infiltrated the militia organizations allegedly involved in 1/6 — assuming from the outset that there was in fact no infiltration, thereby providing the FBI director an easy way to avoid addressing the question one way or another.


Revolver News is willing to address the matter directly in the following three questions:
• In the year leading up to 1/6 and during 1/6 itself, to what extent were the three primary militia groups (the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys, and the Three Percenters) that the FBI, DOJ, Pentagon and network news have labeled most responsible for planning and executing a Capitol attack on 1/6 infiltrated by agencies of the federal government, or informants of said agencies?
• Exactly how many federal undercover agents or confidential informants were present at the Capitol or in the Capitol during the infamous “siege” and what roles did they play (merely passive informants or active instigators)?
• Finally, of all of the unindicted co-conspirators referenced in the charging documents of those indicted for crimes on 1/6, how many worked as a confidential informant or as an undercover operative for the federal government (FBI, Army Counterintelligence, etc.)?

Tucker Revolver
https://twitter.com/i/status/1404984630160203781

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“Resulting from surging income and reduced liabilities, retail sales are running about 15% above the trend of the prior decade.”

Is “Running Hot” Inflation Wise and Humane? (RIA)

The robust economic recovery is in part the result of nearly $5 trillion in deficit spending. To grasp how the government supported the economy, consider the graph below. The orange line is total personal income. After the second set of direct payments to citizens went out in March, personal income was 25% more than before the Pandemic. The blue line shows organic income, or that earned solely through employers. The difference, the gray area, is payments from the government, known as transfer payments. These direct benefits represented nearly a third of income on multiple occasions over the last year.


Personal consumption represents nearly two-thirds of economic activity (GDP). Over the last six months, consumption was significantly boosted by stimulus programs. Further, the government allowing forbearance of rent, mortgage, student loan, and utility payments provided many with additional money to spend. Resulting from surging income and reduced liabilities, retail sales are running about 15% above the trend of the prior decade. For historical recessionary context, consider retail sales fell by about 13% from its trend during the 2008 recession.

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End the Fed.

Fed Says Might Need To Raise Interest Rates Sooner Than Expected (DM)

Federal Reserve officials have said they might need to raise interest rates sooner than expected to keep inflation from spiraling out of control – as the US economy continues to grow at lightning speed. Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell said in a press conference Wednesday officials now expect to hike the interest rate from near zero to 0.6 percent by the end of 2023. Back in March, the central bank said it didn’t expect to raise it until at least 2024. The interest rate affects both consumer and business loans, impacting everything from credit cards to mortgages. When the rate set at near zero, borrowing costs are cheap and money ‘floods’ the system. This helps to goose growth, but also can send prices spiraling out of control.


With the economy recovering more rapidly than anticipated from the COVID-19 pandemic, consumer prices soared at a faster rate in May than any time since the Great Recession. Last week, the government warned that overall consumer prices rose 0.6 percent in May, bringing the annual inflation rate to 5 percent – the highest level since August 2008. The updated interest rate projection comes as the Federal Reserve attempts to put a brake on such out-of-control prices. A majority of 11 of 18 Fed officials pencil in at least two quarter-percentage-point rate increases for 2023, even as officials pledged in a statement to keep policy supportive for now to encourage an ongoing jobs recovery. Meanwhile, overall economic growth is expected to hit 7 percent this year.

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  • #77567

    Roy Lichtenstein Crying girl 1963   • They Denied A Lab Leak At Wuhan. They Are Wrong About Other Things (Pfeiffer) • Novavax CEO: Covid-19 Boost
    [See the full post at: Debt Rattle June 17 2021]

    #77568
    Germ
    Participant

    Dr Wolfgang Wodarg exposes the scamdemic.
    An important voice.

    #77569

    #77570
    Germ
    Participant

    ADE – it’s now happening in the UK.

    “Almost one third of people in the UK who have so far died from the Indian variant had received both their vaccinations.”

    12 people who died with Indian Covid variant in UK were fully vaccinated

    #77571
    Germ
    Participant

    Australia:

    “Twelve additional cases of blood clots with low blood platelets have been assessed as thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS) likely to be linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

    https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-17-06-2021

    #77572
    Germ
    Participant

    Australia:

    AstraZeneca now only recommended for Australians aged 60 and over in blow to Covid vaccine rollout

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/17/astrazeneca-now-only-recommended-for-australians-aged-60-and-over-in-blow-to-covid-vaccine-rollout

    #77573
    absolute galore
    Participant

    At the company I work for, I was the only office worker not vaccinated. Until they hired a new, 30-year-old admin. I guess they forgot to ask her, but she apparently has no intention to get herself jabbed at the moment. I have not spoken to her directly, just found this out through a coworker last night. I asked about it because the executives of the company were making noises about going back to a full schedule, everybody in the office 8-5. Right now we come into the office in shifts, the rest of the time working from home. This was brought up in an informal discussion prompted by the fact that Cuomo just relaxed most restrictions on small businesses like ours (about 12 office workers, 30 on site factory workers.)

    One of the execs is super pro mask, vaccine, follow the guidelines to a t. He said that they have the right to “discriminate”,ie, treat vaccinated and unvaccinated workers differently. He also said they have been told by the state to do everything they can to encourage workers to get vaccinated.This includes allowing companies to offer incentives for doing so, something that would have previously fallen outside the rules of employment.

    While I do not see the company trying to entice me with any benefits, I suspect at minimum I will be forced to continue wearing a mask.

    The same colleague who told me about the new hire not being vaxxed told me her son, who works for Homeland Security, has not only taken the double dose of Pfiser, but has received two “booster”shots of Moderna.

    Although she told me it was required, I could not find any official vaccination policy online. There may also be different protocols for different jobs within Homeland Security. I know military personnel are currently not forced to receive a vaccine (this would almost certainly change once the vaccines get officially approved, which we must believe is being super fast tracked.)

    When my company does directly approach me, I will object on philosophical, medical, legal, common sense, and logical grounds. Also, I will not take anything that offers a free burger and fries as an enticement I’m not vegan, but I’m not stupid, either.

    Ivermectin ftw.

    #77575
    oxymoron
    Participant

    Queensland Australia – where I lived the first 20 years of my life. I was not removed from my mothers’ arms and she did NOT have to quarantine. 8 negative tests, quarantine, contacting the media and both are fully vaccinated. What the actual **ck!! This is why i flew up there 3 weeks ago to show off my 3 year old son to my mum – fully cognisant of the fact we may very likely be forceable separated for quite some time. There will come a reckoning.

    #77576
    ezlxa1949
    Participant

    I’m an Australian aged over 60, and based on my curernt knowledge, there is no likelihood of my accepting a jab with ANY of the vaccines currently on offer. Maybe Novavax, maybe valneva, but certainly not Pfizer’s or AZ’s.

    The propaganda campaign in the Land Down Under to get we the people to accept jabs of either the Pf or AZ vaccine is renarkably strong, but so far we are TOT being forced to submit to either.

    I can only hope that The System self-destructs before it transmogrifies into full-blown totalitarianism. At the moment self-destruction seems not to be as far-fetched an idea as we may have thought only a few months ago.

    #77577
    Dr. D
    Participant

    Hey, did you know it was hot in the Southwest? And dry? 5 minutes of panic and hate at 11.

    Day 161 the FBI has no idea who planted bombs in the nation’s most secure, surveilled area. Glad that Money’s going to a good cause. Glad I gave up all my rights in the Patriot Act so you could (again) fail to find anyone or stop any crime, animal, vegetable, or mineral, on any day ending in “Y”.

    Speaking of, Day 9 the FBI took the public Bitcoin account of the Russian “hackers.” Somehow they have noooooooooooooooooo idea who set up and owns that Coinbase account. Just too complicated. Glad we have “Know Your Customer” and I can’t remove $2k to buy a barely-moving car without answering questions and filing federal money laundering forms.

    But they just don’t know whodunit. Because A) it was the CEO of Colonial Pipeline, collecting insurance to pay for the million-barrel oil spill or B) it was the FBI funding their not-so-transparent operations. But I’m listening: explain. Calling Director Wray, earth to Wray, anybody home…

    It is literally impossible to be punished for a crime. Day –what – of the Epstein/Maxwell saga? 25 years times 365 days… Day nine-thousand, one-hundred… oh wait, that was the number of girls.
    But we arrest Polish priests if they hold service. Sounds like he needs him some “Freedom!”

    “Recently, a Canadian police force was using a helicopter to hunt down religious services that are forced to be held in secret.”

    Hunger Games. Silent Running.

    “Tensions Rise as G7 Attendees Accidentally Refer To Justin Trudeau Using Masculine Pronouns” –Bbee His Mommy won’t like that.

    Covid-19 vaccine developed by Germany’s CureVac is only 47% effective against the coronavirus.”

    Yes, but they’ve already said with their every action that vaccines don’t work. Why should CureVac be any different? Well at least Pfizer won’t have to poison J&J’s Baltimore plant again.

    Is “Running Hot” Inflation Wise and Humane? (RIA)”

    Yes, of course! Powell says high food prices are good for the poor! Couldn’t be better! Just like Macron said high gas prices are good for the (working) poor! The higher the better! Helping, so much helping. Saving lives by cutting off resources. To YOU, of course, us Very Important People™ have Important Things™ to do.

    Daily dose of Millennial failure: “Do You Yearn for Fulfillment? Reach for the ‘Ordinary,’ Author says” –CNN Aim for the floor: that’s where your arrow will land anyway…
    Remember kids: Trying is the first step toward failure…

    #77578

    So Australians under 60 should not take AstraZeneca, and Greece has this to add:

    Expert calls on women under 50 to avoid J&J vaccine

    Women under 50 should choose a Covid-19 vaccine other than the one by Johnson & Johnson, an epidemiology expert on Thursday, citing the few cases of blood clots recorded in the United States.

    “The American EODY [CDC] says that women under 50 should choose another vaccine. With this vaccine too, some thrombotic events have occurred, though more rare,” said Athina Linou, an epidemiology professor at the University of Athens, speaking to Mega channel.

    “In the US, they are talking about 7 side effects per million,” she added, emphasizing that the specific vaccine should not be withdrawn and that it is safe for women over 50, as well as men. Linou also clarified that the J&J jab is effective against all Covid variants.

    “The Science” can be mighty confusing.

    #77579
    oxymoron
    Participant

    My two cents on dealing with other people but particularly in the working environment (but also friends) is to just humbly say you are afraid. You need to stoop to conquer. Just say you have read alarming things on line from doctors and scientists whose credentials check out and that it has just made you very afraid.
    It is not a sin to be afraid. Not very macho – but not a sin. Let the water wash over. Bend like a reed in the river. Water logic not rock logic.
    What this does is force a decision back on the opposing or forceful side. THEY have to force an outcome and expose themselves. We just have to chiiiillllll. Even though we wanna puch Fauci in the pie hole.

    Anyway it’s nice to have others think we are weird instead of the other way around all the time.
    I’m still angry though

    #77580

    FYI

    #77581
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    Interesting concept – institutionalisation – a fancy word for monopolisation; monopolisation of government; monopolisation of media; monopolisation of pharmaceuticals; monopolisation of medical practice; monopolisation of public discourse; monopolisation of experience; monopolisation of the public mind. All that is heard is the voice of monopolisation which is nothing other than the creation and protection of some stream of revenue (or power re government) under their control. Assets are only valued for the stream of revenue they can create. As clear a vision of the future as is possible to conjure with what can be seen. A few will prosper, most will not. One thing is for certain though, an increasing level of coercion will be required to maintain that status quo – bank on it.

    #77582

    One thing is for certain though, an increasing level of coercion will be required to maintain that status quo – bank on it.

    Illich wrote about this 50 years ago, when nobody saw it happening.

    #77583
    Mister Roboto
    Participant

    Caitlin Johnstone on why the the UFO “revelations” haven’t stirred up very much public interest: The story doesn’t feed either the Team Red or Team Blue cult-propaganda narratives.

    #77584
    zerosum
    Participant

    My two cents

    “If the WHO …. were to approve ivermectin — the EUA for all the vaccines would become invalid.”

    Ivermectin is the penicillin of COVID, particularly when combined with other generics like fluvoxamine and the vilified but effective hydroxychloroquine. Now, however, as at the start of COVID, newly infected patients are still denied treatment and turned back into the community, often to infect others. As Malone put it, “We’re sending people home and telling them not to come back until your lips are blue.”
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    Boosters shots in our future

    “In the unprecedented context of at least 13 variants circulating within the study population subset assessed at this interim analysis, CVnCoV demonstrated an interim vaccine, (CUREVAC),
    efficacy of 47% against [Covid]-19 disease of any severity, demonstrating high efficacy in this unprecedented broad diversity of variants is challenging,” said CureVac CEO Dr. Franz-Werner Haas,”

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    The secret police exists in the USA

    • Unindicted Co-Conspirators in 1/6 Cases Raise Disturbing Questions (Rev.)
    “…. infiltrated by agencies of the federal government, or informants of said agencies?”
    ———–
    Cough, cough

    “… the FBI has no idea who planted, (the pretend), bombs”

    #77585
    a kullervo
    Participant

    Vladimir Putin Quotes Tolstoy As He Reveals His Dark Philosophy On Life (DM)

    To the childlike people at dailymail.co.uk, being clear-headed equates with being a fictional/cartoonish villain. They also enjoy fantasizing about Mr. Putin as a fictional villain. That they don’t mind sharing this mindset with the readers surely is a blatant proof of the infantilization of the Western “intelligentsia“.

    #77586
    zerosum
    Participant

    My doctor said that I will probable NOT get covid.
    Due to the fact of my advance age, and expected life expectancy, getting a vaccine that changes my DNA, will have no effect on future generations.
    I’m still going to enjoy life, despite the fact that I can see one of the12 pearly gates

    #77587
    Dr. D
    Participant

    The story doesn’t feed either the Team Red or Team Blue”

    Maybe true, but on one hand that would be good: it means Team Red is done with “it’s the Russians, let’s double the military budget” crap we put up with during the Bush years. We told them and that it was anti-national and anti-conservative, but there were so many Fox dumb—ses we couldn’t get through. Maybe now?

    #77588
    zerosum
    Participant

    Covid is on the wane inversely proportional to gullibility
    (easily fooled or cheated especially : quick to believe something that is not true.)

    #77589
    Dr. D
    Participant

    “There is more evidence that space aliens are cruising around in Earth’s atmosphere than there ever was that Vladimir Putin had covertly infiltrated the highest levels of the US government, but because it inflamed liberal passions and made them feel like their partisan worldview was about to be vindicated any minute, it sold like crack.” –Johnstone

    That is hilarious, as usual. And true.

    “In a society that’s enslaved to egoic consciousness as ours is, the things that generate the most public interest will be those which flatter…”

    That is: narcissism. Ego. Facts be d—-d. Ego sez “We create our own reality now…” a reality that is fact and consequence free. Wheeee!

    “humanity’s collective problems ultimately boil down to the fact that sociopaths manipulate our minds at mass scale”

    #77590
    sumac.carol
    Participant

    Germ, could you possibly repost your link to the tiny url showing the rap sheets of the pharma companies producing the vaccines? I looked for it thru the previous posts but was not able to find it. Several of my friends asked to see it. In my opinion this is the strongest rebuttal to anyone challenging me about not taking the vaccine. Thanks in advance.

    #77591
    Germ
    Participant

    Universal Declaration on Bioethics and Human Rights

    Article 6 – Consent

    1. Any preventive, diagnostic and therapeutic medical intervention is only to be carried out with the prior, free and informed consent of the person concerned:

    http://portal.unesco.org/en/ev.php-URL_ID=31058&URL_DO=DO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION=201.html

    #77592
    absolute galore
    Participant

    oxmoron wrote: My two cents on dealing with other people but particularly in the working environment (but also friends) is to just humbly say you are afraid. You need to stoop to conquer.

    Except I am not afraid. Healthy concern? Sure. Looking at ways to protect myself? Yup.Vitamin D every day, Ivermectin in the cupboard. But afraid? No. And I’m not about to pretend I am (too late for that anyway.) There are times when it is best to shut up and go under the radar. For this one, I will be reasonable but I will tell anyone who asks directly, and has the right to ask (which I guess employers do) why I won’t be getting vaccinated. I’m not trying to conquer. I’m just trying to say to them,F*ck you.

    #77593
    Germ
    Participant

    Maryland should suspend vaccine mandates on higher education campuses until the myocarditis data can be further evaluated and reviewed by the CDC.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E38E5LsWYAYL_vT?format=jpg&name=medium

    #77594
    Oroboros
    Participant

    I still have Ivan Illich’s books on my shelf from the early 1970’s when the first wave of alternative energy pioneers tried to get airborne, only to crash like Icarus with Reagan symbolically ripping Jimmy Carter’s solar panels off the White House roof and flaunted Alaska’s North Slope oil discovery jackpot.

    Illich was a genius in my opinion but it’s 50 years on an his legacy is largely forgotten among the younger present generations.

    That’s a shame because the young ‘do-nothing-know nothing’ younger generations we have now are going to be violently slammed up against the energy-too -expensive wall so hard it will smash their precious cell phone to pieces.

    What a pity, they’ll be so sad and so lost without their screens telling them what to think, their campfires that never go out, telling them endless lies billed as truths.

    .

    https://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/smartphone-addiction-illustrations-cartoons-15__605.jpg

    #77595
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    @Formerly T Bear

    Interesting concept – institutionalisation – a fancy word for monopolisation

    I would add corporatization. We fear AI taking over our world but it has already happened. Corporations are artificial autonomous structures with a set of rules that have a life of their own. No single person including the CEO can change a corporation much. If the CEO tries to he/she will be replaced with someone who follows the rules and the prime directive is to make money. Given this it is not all surprising that big pharma did what they did. The surprise (at least for some) is that the government and the news media whose job it is to oppose corporate malfeasance are also now corporatized, have pretty much the same built in rules and are driven mostly by profit.

    #77596
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Illich’s underlying concern was of technological tyranny over humanity.

    That concern is embodied today in the rapid self emergent properties of AI.

    Illich asserted that the paradox of high technology is that it creates a relationship of dependence between humans and high technology, and therefore subservience.

    The the old joke of the man going to the doctor worried about his brother, “Hey doc my brother thinks he’s a chicken.”

    Doc, “Why don’t you have him committed?”

    “I can’t, I need the eggs”

    The Covid spectacle is showing that technology is totally perverted to psychopathic power.

    Deep, deep psychopathic power.

    The rule of law has been thrown under the bus of technology.

    It’s a Black Hole that just keeps getting bigger.

    .

    https://th.bing.com/th/id/R35efa246218ab709c1e556714c275733?rik=ARLBppLG9Eu%2bkA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fen.es-static.us%2fupl%2f2015%2f12%2fblack-hole-supermassive-wiki-sq-e1450604002658.jpg&ehk=iLEaHBuUTdeQbtWXxW%2fHMZGP7Ql%2fN7h1qGI3TbYHlsA%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw

    #77597
    Oroboros
    Participant

    Dmitry Orlov when over the same terrain in 2016

    Shrinking the Technosphere: Getting a Grip on Technologies that Limit our Autonomy, Self-sufficiency and Freedom

    https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51Ylnnb1XcL._SX332_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

    #77598
    Oroboros
    Participant

    The Technosphere has a Mind-of-It’s-Own

    #77599
    Mr. House
    Participant

    #77600
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    @ Raúl Ilargi Meijer #77582

    “Illich wrote about this 50 years ago, when nobody saw it happening.”

    Fifty years ago R.M. Nixon was in his first term presidency, law and oder ruled the day and the country (by appearances). Nixon’s presidency marked the beginning attacks upon traditional law, trying to instil order upon both civil rights advocates and anti-war protesters not to forget the concerted subversion of U.S. labour through ‘right to work’ enactments. One could have forecast much of what would transpire given the conditions then prevalent taken to their logical conclusions. The archives of The New Yorker are filled with contemporaneous observations if one takes the trouble to look. The Nixon administration ideologues were reassembled under the moral majority leadership of Ronnie Raygun (40) and his number one sidekick G.H.W. Bush (41) to continue their unrestricted treasons. Some were awake though, try Art Buchwald While Reagan Slept for a satirist’s perspective. No, another Nostradamus isn’t in evidence here, only another one aware of the transactions being enacted and their consequences although such memory probably does not show up on one’s smartyphone.

    #77601
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    @ DarkMatter #77595

    Thank you for the contribution but I used the word I wanted in the manner I wished to paint the word picture I desired. Monopoly and monopolistic (a small number controlling some subject or market) adequately conveys my intended observation. Little in today’s world does not fall under that description: economically; politically; governmentally; socially or culturally. YMMV but feel free to substitute whatever word you fancy for your own amusement but I will stand by what I wrote; thank you again.
    (/curmudgeon) (smily thing)

    #77602
    Bill7
    Participant

    Oroboros: thanks for that surveillancePhone-addiction cartoon, and the mention of Orlov’s fine and prescient book ‘Shrinking the Technosphere’. They don’t know that they’ve become the tools of their tools..

    #77603
    Germ
    Participant

    @ sumac

    I’ll have to look for it.

    #77604
    DarkMatter
    Participant

    @Formerly T Bear
    I agree with all you wrote and wasn’t trying to correct your idea. I was just offering an additional perspective.

    #77605
    Doc Robinson
    Participant

    The Sinovac vaccine is getting some bad press today about breakthrough cases in Indonesia, without any comparison to the number of breakthrough cases in the US.

    But, looking at the limited data that’s available, the breakthrough cases in the US (primarily mRNA vaccines) could be worse than the Sinovac breakthrough cases in Indonesia.

    US
    102 per million (before the CDC stopped counting them)
    27% asymptomatic
    2% died

    Indonesia
    ? per million
    “Most” of them asymptomatic
    1.7% died

    Hundreds of vaccinated Indonesian health workers get COVID-19, dozens in hospital

    USA breakthrough cases (data from the CDC):

    A total of 10,262 SARS-CoV-2 vaccine breakthrough infections had been reported from 46 U.S. states and territories as of April 30, 2021… Based on preliminary data, 2,725 (27%) vaccine breakthrough infections were asymptomatic, 995 (10%) patients were known to be hospitalized, and 160 (2%) patients died

    As of April 30, 2021, approximately 101 million persons in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

    COVID-19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections Reported to CDC — United States, January 1–April 30, 2021

    10,262 out of 101 million =
    102 per million (US)
    27% asymptomatic
    10% hospitalized
    2% died

    Indonesia breakthrough cases (data from the Reuters article linked above):

    More than 350 doctors and medical workers have caught COVID-19 in Indonesia despite being vaccinated with Sinovac and dozens have been hospitalised, officials said… Most of the workers were asymptomatic and self-isolating at home… Across Indonesia, at least five doctors and one nurse have died from COVID-19 despite being vaccinated, according to LaporCOVID-19, although one had only received a first shot.

    As of 17 June 2021… 11,999,104 people had been fully vaccinated [in Indonesia]. (Wikipedia)

    ? per million got Sinovac (in Indonesia)
    “Most” were asymptomatic
    6 reported deaths = 1.7% of 350 cases.

    #77606
    Doc Robinson
    Participant
    #77607
    Formerly T-Bear
    Participant

    @ DarkMater #77604

    Thanks, the (/curmudgeon) was for the risk of misunderstanding. The development of legal fiction of corporate development in Roman Law, styled on the structure of the family can be found well described in Sir Henry Sumner Maine “Ancient Law”. Maine founded comparative jurisprudence and casts a brilliant light on how the corporate form was established and developed to meet functional needs of Rome. Highly recommended reading. Still valid a hundred sixty years after first published 1861.

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